"He is a reliable negotiator": Lugansk proposed Medvedchuk's candidacy for the post of Ukraine's representative in the TCG

Lugansk proposed the candidacy of Viktor Medvedchuk, head of the political council of the Ukrainian party Opposition Platform - For Life (Opposition Platform For Life), for the post of Ukraine's representative in the Trilateral Contact Group (TCG), which is negotiating a peaceful settlement in Donbass. They would like to see him instead of Galina Tretyakova, a member of the TCG subgroup on humanitarian issues, who is also a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada.

About it сообщает the state news agency of the LPR "Lugansk information center".

Lugansk's proposal was voiced by the representative of the republic in the TCG in the subgroup on humanitarian issues Olga Kobtseva. She stated that due to the ineffectiveness of Tretyakova's work in the TCG and her inadequate statement about the death of Verkhovna Rada deputy Anton Polyakov, the LPR proposes to exclude her from the contact group.

Minus one enemy

- commented on the death of her colleague.

At the same time, Viktor Medvedchuk, working as a member of the TCG, showed that he is a reliable and obligatory negotiator.

Medvedchuk has established himself as an obligatory negotiator: the topics that were discussed at the meetings of the Contact Group, then received practical steps

- said Kobtseva.

If the Ukrainian politician returns to the subgroup, the LPR authorities are ready to unilaterally release three Ukrainian citizens who are held captive in the republic.

A similar incident happened in 2019, when Medvedchuk was a member of the TCG. Then the LPNR authorities released four Ukrainian prisoners of war without presenting any conditions.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

Kiev will take such a step at best if Ukraine is given the right to appoint its representative from the republics.
The role of Medvedchuk is overestimated by our media. In the neighboring country, they just quietly hate him. And, probably, all political forces, well, maybe only except for the HLS.

[Orange bigg]

To be honest, they have already pulled up this Medvedchuk. Are they waiting for the gag reflex to start working from him?

.Several telegram channels at once report on the escalation of force in the Donbass. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to seize the village of Staromaryevka. The aggravation began on the night of October 26.

The village was in a gray zone and the DPR positions were not there, they are located to the east of Staromaryevka, according to TC Colonelcassad. Taking advantage of this, the Ukrainian Armed Forces entered the village at night and hung up their flag there. According to the military correspondents, 180 people live in Staromaryevka, of which 37 are citizens of the Russian Federation. After that, a battle began in the area of ​​the village, which continues to this day. Both sides use mortars and 122mm artillery. There was a video of the passage of tanks through Telmanovo.

Artillery strikes were carried out on Granitnoye and Telmanovo. The gas pipe at the Zasyadko mine was killed. An electrical substation is damaged in Telmanovo. Residential hits. There is still very little information about the losses of the sides and the current tactical situation in the Staromaryevka area. The absence of a forceful reaction will, of course, be interpreted as an invitation to further attempts to advance in the gray zone.

If you look at this as a whole, then, as already written earlier, the deterioration of the internal political situation for Zelensky will push him to another bloodletting and provocations in the Donbass, - said military observer Boris Rozhin. “Here he is also an exact copy of Poroshenko, who also tried to solve internal political problems by 'overcoming in the Donbass in the gray zone' and by bloodletting.”
Today there were reports of the first applications of the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs by the Ukrainian military.

“Actually, what we all military experts wrote about, it happened. The Ukrainian Armed Forces began to use Turkish attack UAVs on the line of contact, striking with guided weapons from the distance from which the NM LDNR could not respond to them with its own air defense means. With this I congratulate all the curators of Donbass, ”writes Vladimir Orlov.

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/26/eskalaciya-na-donbasse-vsu-pytayutsya-atakovat-ispolzuya-tureckie-bpla

.KIEV, 26 October - RIA Novosti. The Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied the village of Staromaryevka on the contact line in Donbass, Babel writes, citing sources in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

"The Armed Forces of Ukraine returned the village of Staromaryevka in the Donetsk region under the control of the Ukrainian government. It is located near the village of Granitnoye," the statement said.

As indicated in the material, war correspondents in the Donbass and the "separatist media" began to spread this information. Then, Babel's sources in the Defense Ministry confirmed these reports.

https://ria.ru/20211026/staromarevka-1756339545.html

[Victorio]

Quote: OrangeBigg

.KIEV, 26 October - RIA Novosti. The Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied the village of Staromaryevka on the contact line in Donbass, Babel writes, citing sources in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

"The Armed Forces of Ukraine returned the village of Staromaryevka in the Donetsk region under the control of the Ukrainian government. It is located near the village of Granitnoye," the statement said.

As indicated in the material, war correspondents in the Donbass and the "separatist media" began to spread this information. Then, Babel's sources in the Defense Ministry confirmed these reports.

https://ria.ru/20211026/staromarevka-1756339545.html

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it sucks, and what will happen to people now? to beat off by rolling out the houses of local residents? They calculated correctly, there will be no consequences for their actions.

[Orange bigg]

Citizens of the Russian Federation. So everyone does not care for everything for many years. We are no stranger to, as they say. They stupidly entered and occupied the OSCE somewhere, and who will be responsible for all this? The OSCE is essentially Western intelligence. Some kind of solid lawlessness. We ourselves have agreed to all this. Some kind of idiot, to be honest.

[Tatyana]

ATTENTION! Emergency message!

"Today, 26 October 2021 of the year by order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Valery Zaluzhny in the area of ​​the Joint Forces operation for the first time, the combat use of the Bayraktar reconnaissance and strike unmanned complex took place ", - said in a message from the press center of the General Staff on Facebook.

According to the press center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a battery of D-30 howitzers fired at military positions in the Donbass near the village of Granitnoye, during which one security officer was killed and another was wounded.

“The Ukrainian side through the OSCE SMM demanded a ceasefire, but this did not happen, after which Bayraktar was used: the drone did not cross the collision line and destroyed one cannon with a controlled bomb, the shelling of the Ukrainian positions stopped, ” - indicated in the message.

In early April, the leading manufacturer of Turkish drones, Bayraktar, said that Ukraine had already purchased their complexes. In this case, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu assured that the deal is not directed against Russia.

See details - the Armed Forces used Bayraktar drones for the first time in Donbas -https: //vz.ru/news/2021/10/26/1126224.html? Utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = desktop

This is WAR !!! И what kind of gas supply to Ukraine in the EU and through Ukraine to the EU from Russia can we talk about?

[just exp]

I think it would be necessary for the Kurds to put a party of MANPADS in the PKK and assure Turkey that this measure is not directed against Turkey.

[Tatyana]

Russia should not have built a nuclear power plant in Turkey, especially for Russia's money!
The USA, when they leave the country in which they built something, they have built everything - factories, enterprises, etc. they blow up under the guise of a man-made accident and leave nothing behind from the enterprises they built in those countries!

[The leader of the Redskins]

You know, here a couple of weeks ago, when OUR met with Erdogan, there were statements that "secret levers of diplomacy will be used ..." and the Turkish president "will prohibit Zelensky from using Bayraktars in the Donbass" ...
As you can see, the prophet turned out to be weak ...

[Igoresha]

To be honest, they have already been lifted up by this Medvedchuk.

Kremlin curators make Luhansk residents shame again, one might say kiss the embalmed corpse and bow to Ukraine, this is immediately after the kidnapped officer with Russian citizenship

[SSR]

Quote: Igoresha

make Luhansk residents shame again, one might say kiss the embalmed corpse and bow to Ukraine

Are you Zelensky?
It’s so good that you are not a slogan, you are at the helm of the policy of the Russian Federation.
Shame, kiss, balm, Luhansk people.
Meet someone of the opposite sex.

[Oleg Valevsky]

The point is that HLE is not homogeneous.
And it was not created for Medvedchuk.
And in this team there are (and were initially) leaders who saw themselves on the crest of the wave, and not "godfather" (it is known who) ....
That is why almost half of the OLE faction approved sanctions against its leader, Medvedchuk. The situation was anecdotal.

[Overlock]

Quote: Oleg Valevsky

That is why almost half of the OLE faction approved sanctions against its leader, Medvedchuk.

So everyone thought - "I'm next" and swore allegiance to Ukraine

[alexmach]

So everyone thought - "I'm next" and swore allegiance to Ukraine

To be honest, I'm sick of these ozzh-schnicks. They themselves brought the country to the Maidan 2014, they themselves merged it, now they are consolidating the Russian-speaking electorate for the ukrofashists.

Why everyone dislikes this Medvedchuk is not very clear to me. The only thing I have to present to him is the Maidan in 2004, he was then close to Kuchma and obviously somehow participated in all this outrage, but since then I cannot say a single bad word about him.

[s.adviser]

Is there really a politician in the neighboring country who is loved?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: s.adviser

Is there really a politician in the neighboring country who is loved?

And name there at least one politician who has something to love.

[s.adviser]

Do you want to argue with me, or do you agree with me?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: s.adviser

Do you want to argue with me, or do you agree with me?

I agree with you, but I am giving you the reason for this fact. You have voiced the consequence of this reason.

[s.adviser]

I do not know this homespun truth?

[Overlock]

Quote: s.adviser

Is there really a politician in the neighboring country who is loved?

They like us

[Overlock]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Kiev will take such a step at best if Ukraine is given the right to appoint its representative from the republics.

Kiev will never take such a step

[Cananecat]

Maybe Medvedchuk will start some positive changes in Ukraine.

[Moreno]

May be. So far, this is the most adequate figure for the presidency of Ukraine.

[Overlock]

Quote: Moreno

So far, this is the most adequate figure for the presidency of Ukraine.

They made me laugh. So they wanted in Moscow and they didn’t succeed. His party won about 12% in the last elections - what kind of presidency is there?

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Moreno

May be. So far, this is the most adequate figure for the presidency of Ukraine.

In my opinion.
The most "adequate" to the throne of Ukraine is A. Yu. Vilkul.
In 2019 he was nominated for the President of Ukraine - 8th place, 4,15% votes.
Consisted in
Party of Regions 2003-14
Opposition bloc since 2014
Opposition bloc - Party for Peace and Development since 2018
Vilkula block from 2020

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Canecat

Maybe Medvedchuk will start some positive changes in Ukraine.

Who will vote for him? Who will give him the vote? Who in the end will allow him to participate in the elections, and not jail him, accusing, say, of aiding “terrorists?” It seems that you were just born yesterday.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And who will vote for him? Who will vote for him?

Of course, the US State Department did not last to vote for him, and all the others do not count.

[Overlock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Who will vote for him?

And who prevented Poroshenko from using power and getting a second presidential term? But for some reason it didn’t work, the administrative resource didn’t work. Probably, they think the way they vote? After all, you add the voices to your beloved and suddenly they will check - it smells very bad, you can either sit down or get at least on the face

[just exp]

Monsieur doesn't know about Piglet and Trump?

[Leonidych]

Maybe But only if our army is behind him.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: leonidych

Maybe But only if our army is behind him.

Back in 2014, this option was abandoned, do you think that now someone will change their minds?

[Overlock]

Quote: leonidych

But only if our army is behind him.

"You can lean on bayonets, but you can't sit on them" - one of the great

[Avior]

this is a Spanish proverb
Came to Russian from French
On pent tout fairs avec les baionettes exceptc s u asseoir.
In the original: Bayonets are suitable for everything (with bayonets you can do anything), you just can’t sit on them.
Sometimes it is attributed to different French people.

[Overlock]

Quote: Avior

Sometimes it is attributed to different French people.

Like Napoleon, for example. I think that authorship is not important, meaning is important

[Andrey Moskvin]

Such sayings are not born among the people, these are the words of a politician, and the bayonet is quite young. I think more like Napoleon.

[Avior]

In the original version, it is rather an analogue of the saying

Can not be forced.

[SSR]

Quote: Canecat

Maybe Medvedchuk will start some positive changes in Ukraine.

Already rather from Sharia.

[cat Rusich]

Quote from S.S.R.

Quote: Canecat

Maybe Medvedchuk will start some positive changes in Ukraine.

Already rather from Sharia.

With "Party Sharia"

[Leonidych]

Kiev will never agree to this. Medvedchuk is like a bone in their throat.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: leonidych

Kiev will never agree to this. Medvedchuk is like a bone in their throat.

But what kind of Kiev is there? Washington will definitely not go for such stupidity. Why would Washington give a pro-Russian candidate the opportunity to carry out political activities in the interests of no matter who, Ukraine, Russia? anyone's interests. Including the interests of Ukraine.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Washington cares only about its own interests, and it doesn't care about anything else, it doesn't care about anyone's interests. Including the interests of Ukraine.

Well, they said it right. All maps for Ukraine are in the hands of Washington.

[s.adviser]

Is Medvedchuk pro-Russian? Take an interest in his activities during the time of the Kuchma.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: s.adviser

Is Medvedchuk pro-Russian? Take an interest in his activities during the time of the Kuchma.

Tell us about his activities in Kration.

[s.adviser]

I think this will help you get to know Medvedchuk better https://www.youtube.com/watch? v = vTkbqIyuwsM

[Overlock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

pro-Russian candidate

Can you name at least one pro-Russian figure in Ukraine? This one doesn't count

[samarin1969]

The habit of political strategists to pump up the ratings of candidates is familiar. But here the popularity is very microscopic. He himself tried to "pout" in the years of Kuchma. But there was not enough money to cover zero charisma.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Such an offer is not even trolling, not stupidity, not provocation, not something real, but ... Something like "a ram kicked into the water." Well, something like this...

[Vladimir M]

Quote: Moreno

May be. So far, this is the most adequate figure for the presidency of Ukraine.

Citizen Medvedchuk is a complete zero for the population of Ukraine. It is not perceived not by "white", not "red". President Medvedchuk is a bad idea.

[Orange bigg]

In Ukraine, I don’t remember when there were good ideas. If there were any at all. It's enough to see what ambassadors we put there and what they really did there. Chernomyrdin and Zurabov alone are worth something. And you are waiting for good ideas here.

[Vladimir M]

If Zelensky manages to put Medvedchuk in prison, it will not even be very bad. Maybe then there will be a more sane GDP policy in relation to Donbass and Ukraine as a whole. It is not clear why Zelenskiy had to touch his godfather, or it was an instruction from the "European people" to screw up the GDP.

[Orange bigg]

Ze is now ready to imprison anyone who at least in the slightest degree can claim power in Ukraine, a robbery is being prepared there, forgive the privatization of everything and everything for which the Maidan itself was started.

[Avior]

ready to plant anyone who can even the slightest bit of claim to power in Ukraine

Medvedchuk can be easily deleted from this list

[Overlock]

Quote: Vladimir M

Maybe then there will be a more sane GDP policy in relation to Donbass and Ukraine as a whole.

There will be nothing. Have you watched his performance at Valdai? There, to such a question, he answered simply, "I don't even know"

[Vladimir M]

Maybe the truth doesn’t know yet. In Ukraine, the godfather is a relative no less than a brother.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Vladimir M

Citizen Medvedchuk is a complete zero for the population of Ukraine. It is not perceived not by "white", not "red". President Medvedchuk is a bad idea.

And that there is someone in respect? You, in Ukraine, half of the thugs talk at night under a blanket with their relatives in Russia on a vibeer, and the other half have done something specifically out of fear. They whisper - What are you. What are you .. hush ..... This is your ukraYna ... Ugh! Have survived ...

[Overlock]

Quote: 30 vis

You, in Ukraine, half of the thugs talk at night under a blanket with their relatives in Russia on a vibeer, and the other half have done something specifically out of fear.

You probably live under the same blanket? You all know about Ukraine, it's suspicious. Cossack?

[Xnumx vis]

I know. He lived for 23 years. There are many relatives in Ukraine. They come to visit, communicate, a lot of friends in Ukraine. That's why I know. Sailor yes! There are no Cossacks.

[Aag]

I apologize to all commentators, and, especially, from the residents of Donbass, Lugansk (for the indecision of our leadership ...).
... Maybe I don’t understand something, I do not understand, but it seems that the next SECTION (between the oligarchs). Slogans can be invented different ... In relation to people - cynical, cruel, - but, - in a modern way, "quite" ...
Satan rules the ball ... (((

[Orange bigg]

Did you just notice this? And in 2014, did you not notice any of this? People voted, hoped, and they were told later, and then, under shelling, how many years has it lasted? he heard. And how many citizens of Russia are there, what is their fate? Today the Ukrainians have occupied Staromaryevka, and there are 37 citizens of the Russian Federation and what will happen to them? They will be jailed? Who is interested in their fate?

[New Year day]

Quote: OrangeBigg

People voted, hoped

What question was on the vote?

[Clochard]

An attempt to revive the political corpse of Medvedchuk.
One of the leaders of anti-ratings along with Poroshenko and "Unnamed"
The maximum personal rating for the entire time of measurements is not more than 5%, even a loyal KIIS no longer gives
Throwing money into it is a waste of lave (although nothing is a pity for a godfather)
And even the HLP rating is based on Boyko's personal rating, not Medvedchuk

[Vladimir M]

You are right Clochard. It is generally not clear why Zelensky needed to touch Medvedchuk, well, Medvedchuk is not a competitor. The Nazis still did not appreciate the "hitting" on the godfather of the GDP. It would even be very good if Medvedchuk was imprisoned.

[Clochard]

It seems to me that the reason lies in the desire of Medvedchuk and Co., in the early stages of Zelensky's rule, to appropriate the functions of the main peacemaker and negotiator with the Kremlin. For which he was repeatedly pulled back
Hence the hit, when Ze entered into "power"

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Clochard

An attempt to revive the political corpse of Medvedchuk.
One of the leaders of anti-ratings along with Poroshenko and "Unnamed"
The maximum personal rating for the entire time of measurements is not more than 5%, even a loyal KIIS no longer gives
Throwing money into it is a waste of lave (although nothing is a pity for a godfather)
And even the HLP rating is based on Boyko's personal rating, not Medvedchuk

But what an unexpected multi-move.

[Clochard]

Disservice

[Oleg Valevsky]

The first application of "Bayraktar" in the Donbass.
As far as I understand, it was a D-30 howitzer

[Orange bigg]

So they put the whole device on providing the Donbass with air defense, hence such results from our indifference.

[Overlock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

So the whole device was put on the provision of air defense for the Donbass.

If you haven't understood yet, Donbass is a "suitcase without a handle" for everyone. For those in power, this is fetishism

[The leader of the Redskins]

The calculation seems to have survived. But the howitzer is most likely damaged ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The calculation seems to have survived. But the howitzer is most likely damaged ...

So who is going to shoot down these Bayraktars like in Syria or will it be like in Karabakh in Donbas?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, such a victorious march as in Karabakh is hardly foreseen. But the depletion database is very likely.

[singless]

he is not so sweet, they still throw coal.

[Vasily Onischuk]

There are no reliable negotiators in Ukraine. And there is no one to negotiate with. Whenever they try to come to an agreement, they consider themselves the most cunning of all, they are looking for how and where to cheat. Yes, even a member of the HLS, which in Russia is almost considered a pro-Russian force, Rabinovich vyaknul at the camera, they say we need to negotiate with Russia, because an affectionate calf sucks two queens. So that's it. And everyone there, that is pro-Western, that is conditionally pro-Russian, has such an approach. Russia owes them by default. And there is a lot of everything. It's just that some want, with the support of the West, to knock out a freebie, and the second to beg.

[Orange bigg]

.because a tender calf sucks two queens. So that's it.

What a pose from the Kama Sutra? Looks like a sophisticated politician this Rabinovich.

[Vasily Onischuk]

Well, he, like, remembered the old folk wisdom. And Ukraine itself is already in such a position that one cannot find in the Kamasutra either. Now, if they rule, they will be listed as the rarest

[Oleg Valevsky]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Looks like a sophisticated politician this Rabinovich.

Who cares, look for who Rabinovich is. Recommend!...
You need to write books there ...
Ostap Bender is resting.

In 1984, Vadim Rabinovich, the foreman of the repair and construction department of the city of Bogodukhov, was sentenced by the judicial collegium for criminal cases of the Kharkiv Regional Court to 14 years in prison. He was charged with Art. 165 of the Criminal Code of the Ukrainian SSR - "Abuse of power or official position." Together with his accomplice, Rabinovich caused damage to the state in the amount of about half a million rubles.

Although he is now telling tales that he was a "workshop worker", in fact, working in the production of crystal glasses, he traded in building materials. Bargained for several hundred thousand rubles.

It is clear that then the "tower" was for such a thing.
Then he decided to mow like a psycho.
Rabinovich was transferred to the nearest to the pre-trial detention center, the 15th Kharkiv mental hospital. The examination showed that he suffers from a mental illness in the form of schizophrenia.

But the investigation did not back down, realizing that the client was "mowing". They took Rabinovich to Kiev, to "Pavlovka"
And here Rabinovich, who went into a rage, was able to convince the commission of their professors that he was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.
How? "Sick" made a slingshot and with its help launched a letter from the hospital window to Marshal of the Soviet Union, Defense Minister Dmitry Ustinov. In it, he asks for a meeting. They say it has important confidential information - "Thanks to this discovery, we will be able to do without missiles, tanks, guns, and generally without other sciences. I ask you to visit me. However, you should know that the enemies are insidious and can take your form. To avoid this, I advise you hold a sausage in one hand and a banana in the other as a conventional sign. " Rabinovich wrote his address surprisingly accurately: the psychiatric hospital. Pavlova, Kiev, third bed to the right of the window.
Doctors could not resist the temptation to confirm the diagnosis.

But the investigators did not back down. And Rabinovich went to Moscow, to the Institute of Forensic Psychiatry. Serbian.

For two years he managed to deceive Moscow luminaries from psychiatry. And yet it pierced ..!.
As a result, he was recognized as sane. They gave him 14 years, he served nine ...

For some reason, such a client was elected by the Kremlin as a conductor of Russian interests .. An unusual choice, let's face it ..

[Vladimir M]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Ze is now ready to imprison anyone who at least in the slightest degree can claim power in Ukraine, a robbery is being prepared there, forgive the privatization of everything and everything for which the Maidan itself was started.

For Medvedchuk, the power in Ukraine does not shine, from the word at all. No matter how much the Russian Federation invests in it resources and money - the output will be zero. And the Maidan was started by "European people" with one goal: 1 to expel the Black Sea Fleet from the Crimea, 2 to "cut" shale gas in the Donbass.

[Chekmarev]

Medvedchuk is the same corrupt, two-faced scum, like the allegedly "pro-Russian" Yanukovych, Boyko, Muraev, Rabinovich and others. They will try to sit on two chairs, be yours to both the West and Russia, and for this they will receive money and benefits from both the West and Russia. In Ukraine, there are no politicians useful to Russia at all, not at all, ZERO! So there is absolutely no sense in investing in someone for Russia, Ukrainian politicians, and so without Russia's help, devour each other no worse than spiders in a bank. No need to go there.

[AC130 Gunship]

There in Luhansk some comedians are sitting without a smile. The dude is under house arrest and is charged with several crimes. How, where and how can he work in this position ???

[CommanderDIVA]

There are no pro-Russian politicians and a pro-Russian fifth column in Ukraine now, either the SBU and the Nazis have been swept away, or people in exile, there is no talk of an organized underground, the Kremlin has apparently taken a course towards toughening its policy towards Ukraine in order to change the current Russophobic regime through new elections in the future , here, as in the proverb, either the donkey dies or the padishah dies