The Chinese army began to receive new all-terrain vehicles to service distant garrisons

The armies of different countries of the world are looking for ways and opportunities to equip with equipment that can help in operations in harsh climatic conditions. We are talking, among other things, about equipment for the needs of the armed forces in the winter. Such equipment began to enter service with the People's Liberation Army of China.

The Ministry of Defense of the PRC reports that the troops have begun to adopt new tracked all-terrain vehicles. One of the main functions for this kind of equipment is the ability to transport personnel and cargo in difficult conditions, for example, on snow, ice, including in a mountainous landscape.

The first such all-terrain vehicles were received by Chinese servicemen in the formations of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR). This is a vast northwestern region of China, where separatist sentiments are quite strong, fueled also from outside the PRC. XUAR is one of the few large regions of the country where the number of Han (ethnic Chinese) is less than the local population - Uyghurs. The climate in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region is very harsh. Already today, in some of its regions, a real winter has reigned with negative temperatures and heavy snowfalls. In such conditions, it was extremely difficult for the Chinese troops to deal with the supply of distant garrisons. Often this had to be done with the help of local horses. Now, it is believed that tracked all-terrain vehicles will help supply distant garrisons in the XUAR.

It is noted that the new all-terrain vehicles are able to navigate terrain with difficult terrain. These can be snow-covered fields, small mountain river beds, stone and sandy deserts, wetlands.

At the same time, the PLA has not yet announced the name of the new all-terrain vehicle.

It is known that the all-terrain vehicle is capable of transporting up to 1500 kg of cargo, operating at altitudes up to 5 thousand meters, and climbing up to 35 degrees.

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[Mavrikiy]

The Chinese army began to receive new all-terrain vehicles to service distant garrisons

The thing is necessary ... but it hurts ugly, unless to intimidate the enemy ...

[BARKAS]

This ugly reminds me of something.

[mitroha]

It resembles the work of a Chinese copier) It works quickly for them

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Mitroha

Chinese copier job

The copier works around the clock .... And the toner is bottomless!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: BARKAS

This ugly reminds me of something.

The high rate of industrial development in China is astounding. However, wherever you look, now the feathers of a bald eagle, now the mane of a British lion, now the face of a Russian bear ... Is there something of your own from conception to birth? Or are there only hieroglyphs left?
Predictably disgusting ...
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Today I watched the film again:

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It's bitter to listen (from 23:52) ... And thoughts are completely unhappy and optimistic ...

[knn54]

-SUAR is one of the few large regions of the country where the number of Han (ethnic Chinese) is less than the local population - Uighurs.
This is unlikely. The Han people have long been (example of the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Republic, where no more than 30% of Mongols live). use "assimilation".
Extra-conscripts (today they are contract soldiers) of the PLA were placed on a post in the families of the Uighurs, where there were girls "for marriageable". Children from joint marriages were considered Han.
The second "positive" point is that they will no longer be Muslims.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mavrikiy

painfully ugly

Need a Lamborghini look like?

[loki565]

Similar to Elk

aka the Swedish all-terrain vehicle BV-206

[Pandiurin]

Quote: loki565

Looks like ...

Why should it be so different?

We designed a tracked all-terrain vehicle for snow, for transporting 4 people + a small load, we chose a two-link scheme, for the snow it is. The body is square, the glasses are flat, which would be cheap and technologically advanced. Of course it will be very similar.

And so the differences are small enough to understand that this is not just a clone. In terms of engine and chassis, they probably selected and compiled in the same way from different proven solutions.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: loki565

Similar to Elk

Quote: Pandiurin

Why should it be so different?

At least in form. These were made for the plain tundra, but in China around mountains and plateaus - the center of gravity was chosen incorrectly. Blind imitation. Katkov was added: there was "Los" - there was "Salmon"; was “Adidas” - became “Abibas” ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: ROSS 42

These were made for the plain tundra

And who said that this is not for the tundra?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

And who said that this is not for the tundra?

There is no tundra in China, do you understand? Lack of a climatic zone as such. Tall structures are prone to overturning, that's all.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: ROSS 42

There is no tundra in China, do you understand?

I understand perfectly. It just may appear, it takes less than a couple of months.

[loki565]

I understand perfectly. It just may appear, it takes less than a couple of months.

Yeah, everyone sleeps and sees how to chop off a piece of permafrost))) This is a copy of the Swedish BV-206 just an all-terrain vehicle that was sold to many countries, the USA, Canada and the same China

[Humpty]

Quote: ROSS 42

There is no tundra in China, do you understand? Lack of a climatic zone as such

There are a lot of tundra in China. There are plots in XUAR too. The author of the note attributed the pepelats there for some reason, to the Uyghur separatists. Most of Tibet is tundra.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Humpty

There are a lot of tundra in China. There are plots in XUAR too.

Who told you that? Ivan Fedorovich Kruzenshtern - a man and a ship?

Tundra is a type of natural zones lying outside the northern limits of forest vegetation, an area with permafrost soil that is not flooded with sea or river waters. The tundra is located north of the taiga zone. By the nature of the surface of the tundra there are swampy, peaty, stony. The southern border of the tundra is taken for the beginning of the Arctic. From the north, the tundra is limited by the zone of arctic deserts. Sometimes the term "tundra" is applied to similar natural areas of the Antarctic.

[Humpty]

Quote: ROSS 42

Who told you that? Ivan Fedorovich Kruzenshtern - a man and a ship?

Saw. Where from the train, where from the car, but most often on foot.
The tundra areas of the islands in the Indian Ocean are of course not visible at the scale of the map, but the tundra in Argentina and Chile could have been tinted. Although he himself was not so far.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Humpty

tundra in Argentina and Chile could have been tinted

There - to touch up, in China - to come up with ...

[Humpty]

Quote: ROSS 42

There - to touch up, in China - to come up with ...

Go to school

[Lynx2000]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Humpty

There are a lot of tundra in China. There are plots in XUAR too.

Who told you that? Ivan Fedorovich Kruzenshtern - a man and a ship?

Tundra is a type of natural zones lying outside the northern limits of forest vegetation, an area with permafrost soil that is not flooded with sea or river waters. The tundra is located north of the taiga zone. By the nature of the surface of the tundra there are swampy, peaty, stony. The southern border of the tundra is taken for the beginning of the Arctic. From the north, the tundra is limited by the zone of arctic deserts. Sometimes the term "tundra" is applied to similar natural areas of the Antarctic.

There are also the so-called. alpine or high-mountain tundra, and in the northeast of SUAO (border with Kazakhstan, Russia and Mongolia) the Altai Mountains are located.
However, the author noted excessive cross-country ability, noting that where the caravans of loaded horses were driven, now this all-terrain vehicle will pass for supply. It is still necessary to prepare the road.
I also disagree with Shaltay (Alexander) who thinks that wheeled vehicles are preferable to tracked vehicles on mountain passes. Yes, on a knurled mountain road with a slope, tracked vehicles with metal tracks on turns with a slope on ice is difficult to control, but such a tracked all-terrain vehicle is preferable when driving on snow.

[Humpty]

Quote: Lynx2000

Yes, on a knurled mountain road with a slope, tracked vehicles with metal tracks on turns with a slope on ice is difficult to control, but such a tracked all-terrain vehicle is preferable when driving on snow.

And there is no clear answer here which is better. There are, for example, tank-hazardous passes, tanks will pass, but it is problematic for wheeled vehicles. Not only the Urals were planted deafly, it was also the case with Kamaz. But such a cockroach, as in the article, would pass. Caterpillars with a resource on stones, especially if it is very sad to drive along the channel. In winter, as a rule, there is no great snow cover either in the Tien Shan or Tibetan mountain tundra.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Humpty

And there is no clear answer here which is better. There are, for example, tank-hazardous passes, tanks will pass, but it is problematic for wheeled vehicles. Not only the Urals were planted deafly, it was also the case with Kamaz. But such a cockroach, as in the article, would pass. Caterpillars with a resource on stones, especially if it is very sad to drive along the channel. In winter, as a rule, there is no great snow cover either in the Tien Shan or Tibetan mountain tundra.

Well, I don’t know, I’ve heard that there is always a lot of snow in Ladakh, and there’s no less snow in the Khelanshan mountains. My brother and I went to SUAO several times. In September, between 20-25 in Gorny Altai on the Seminsky and Chik-Tamansky passes, it was already snowing. I flew to Kamchatka, in the direction of Mutnovka, there was already snow on the Vilyuchinsky pass, since October 11, it was snowing 90 km north of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.
Everything is relative, for example, in the Altai Mountains in the mountain tundra, the snow cover has already fallen until spring, in the SUAO from the southwestern part of the Altai Mountains there should also be a snow cover.

[Humpty]

Quote: Lynx2000

Well I do not know

I didn't see all the holes there, of course. But in some places I have been many times. Once in winter (Kunlun, Chinese Pamir). I have never been to Altai at all, theoretical knowledge about it. But in a number of other mountainous regions of the XUAR was. I was interested in the local climate.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ROSS 42

wrong center of gravity

I wonder how you can judge the location of the center of gravity from the picture? Or maybe he has a foam case

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Piramidon

I wonder how you can judge the location of the center of gravity from the picture? Or maybe he has a foam case

Everything is determined by the "scientific poke" method. It is unlikely that a pile of boxes under the awning will contribute to stability. Although, if the bottom is "reinforced" with lead sheets ...
MTL is closer to me ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: ROSS 42

Although, if the bottom is “reinforced” with lead sheets ..

Well, there are rollers and a goose instead of a slab.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Piramidon

Well, there are rollers and a goose instead of a slab.

For God's sake. A high center of gravity is a problem. That's all. Like here:

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[alex neym_2]

Quote: Mavrikiy

The thing is necessary ... but it hurts ugly, unless to intimidate the enemy ...

What do you want this car to be blown through in a wind tunnel? So he (the all-terrain vehicle) will fly after it - but we don't need that ...

[Humpty]

Even in the distant holes in the mountains, the Chinese are trying to pave supply roads. At the expense of horses, they have suitable pickets in the north, possibly in the northeast of the XUAR. But with all the desire, such a cockroach will not crawl to them. Due to several pickets, they will not specifically create such a technique. But for the mountain tundra of Tibet, the technique is quite relevant.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Humpty

But for the mountain tundra of Tibet, the technique is quite relevant.

I think yes. It is, of course, a photo on a rocky road, but the resource of a goose on such a surface leaves much to be desired ... Not a mover for such roads.

[Humpty]

Quote: NDR-791

It is, of course, a photo on a rocky road, but the resource of a goose on such a surface leaves much to be desired ... Not a mover for such roads.

Of course. The second cockroach is needed with supplies. In the Urals (4/4) somehow back and forth 40 km in winter along the riverbed, drove over the stones, walked confidently. In the mountain tundra, he was somehow deafly planted in October, pulled out in May. Tracked vehicles do not behave well on an icy road with a roll. The wheel with chains is much more confident.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Humpty

planted in October, pulled out in May.

How familiar !!! I planted this UAZ on a hunt, only in the spring they got it.

[Sergey3]

Where did you find foreign cars in Russia? Everything is mixed there. They put a VAZxxxx engine on a Renault, and a Renault - Nissan engine on a Zhiguli. Mercedes secretly, without advertising, puts YMZ engines (from the new plant), the KAMAZ vehicles have engines from Mercedes, and all this is straight from the assembly line. Ford used BOR glass. Everything is mixed there. There are no foreign cars in Russia today. Everything that is produced here is from the category: I blinded him from what was!

[APASUS]

I thought it was a supply robot, and this is just a new tractor.

[Sergey3]

When did they manage to steal our two-link all-terrain vehicle?

[Chever]

Quote: Sergey3

When did they manage to steal our two-link all-terrain vehicle?

And when did ours manage to steal a two-link all-terrain vehicle?