The shipbuilding industry has confirmed the possibility of using the project 11711 large landing craft as a minelayer

All large landing ships (BDK) developed in the Soviet Union can be used as minelayers, this possibility is provided for by their design. There is such an opportunity for the new BDK project 11711 already built in Russia.

A large landing ship of Project 11711, acting as a minelayer, can set up a minefield that can "close" an entire sea area. According to a source in the shipbuilding industry, the ship can take on board several hundred sea mines. Thus, he answered the question about the possibility of the new BDK to install mines through the aft ramp.

Taking into account the capabilities and dimensions of the Project 11711 BDK, it is capable of receiving hundreds of sea mines, depending on their purpose. This amount is enough to block not only any strait zone, but also vast sea areas.

- leads TASS source words.

Currently, the Russian Navy has only two BDKs of the new project 11711 - the head "Ivan Gren" and the first serial "Pyotr Morgunov". Two more large landing ships are being built in Kaliningrad at the Yantar shipyard, albeit according to a modernized design. The ship is capable of accommodating 13 tanks or more than 30 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. Also, the BDK provides for the deployment of a reinforced marine battalion, as well as the temporary basing of various types of shipborne helicopters.

Note that despite the possibility of using the BDK as a minelayer, it is better to let the ships specially created for this deal with this business, and the task of the landing ships is to deliver troops.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

What else can he do that we don't know about?

[Cananecat]

Quote: tralflot1832

What else can he do that we don't know about?

What you are not supposed to know about. )

[Tugarin]

The previous economy in the Fleet forces to shift profile tasks to ships of other purpose

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tugarin

All large landing ships (BDK) developed in the Soviet Union can be used as minelayers, this possibility is provided for by their design. There is such an opportunity for the new BDK project 11711 already built in Russia.

All large landing ships (BDK) developed in the Soviet Union can be used as minelayers, this possibility is provided for by their design. There is such an opportunity for the new BDK project 11711 already built in Russia.

just kept the traditions

[Boa kaa]

The setting of the MZM is included in the list of tasks for ships of this class. If the landing of an assault force is for the most part an offensive task, then the setting of the MZM is mainly defensive. For it is difficult to imagine the BDK in the role of organizer of an active minefield ... the provision should be the same as during the MDO. Aviation and submarines are engaged in active MZM, and defensive combat ships. Somehow it used to be. And now, for sure, it remains, unless, of course, the "genders" in the boots intervened. They can ... on order, and the overcoat in the panties to fill ...
AHA.

[Serg65]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And now it surely remains

Remained, 11711 even have regular minecarts!

[Serg65]

For over 100 years, Russia has been making multipurpose ships!

[sen]

So in the "Military acceptance" showed the blocks standing at the sides of the large landing craft, from which mine paths are assembled.

[Bez 310]

"... can set up a minefield that can" close " the whole sea area"
I wonder what it is - whole sea area?
How much is it, and what?

[novel66]

well, the pacific ocean, for example

[Serg65]

Quote: novel xnumx

well, the pacific ocean, for example

Don't tear your pants, flyer!

[novel66]

and we do not set easy tasks!

[Serg65]

Yes! Aviation without missions, not aviation!

[Aag]

Quote: Bez 310

"... can set up a minefield that can" close " the whole sea area"
I wonder what it is - whole sea area?
How much is it, and what?

It also struck .... Apparently, a new non-systemic unit of measurement ... The question of what is the area? Length (length)? ... Volume ?!

[Bez 310]

Quote: AAG

The question of what is the area? Length (length)? ... Volume ?!

And maybe even heights ...
Everything is possible at VO.

[Aag]

[Quote] [/ quote]
Judging by the cons, many are ready to take such measurement measures ...
Here, get: packaging (rice, buckwheat, etc.) 900,890 gr ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

and what is it - a whole sea area?

a strange question from a "pilot of MARINE aviation", moreover, as a navigator!

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

a strange question from a "pilot of MARINE aviation", moreover, as a navigator!

This is how you would explain if you know the answer.

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

This is how you would explain if you know the answer.

As a "navigator", do you not know that the water area is an area of ​​the water surface bounded by natural, artificial or conventional boundaries?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

As a "navigator", should you not know

Yes, I know what a water area is, but I do not know what a "whole sea area" is.
When contacting me, you can not put the word "navigator" in quotes.

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

what is "the whole sea area".

water area from point 53 g 40 min 58 sec N and 158 g 36 min 10 sec e.d. to point 52 degrees. 25 min N and 158 g 33 min 14 sec e. can be called a WHOLE sea area?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

can be called a WHOLE sea area?

The concept of "WHOLE sea area" does not exist, and you are well aware of this, since you searched the Internet in an attempt to answer my question.
Did you seriously think that I would drop everything and throw myself to the map?

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

The concept of "WHOLE sea area" does not exist

Does the concept of the WHOLE sea, the WHOLE ocean ... exist?

Quote: Bez 310

once rummaged on the Internet in an attempt to answer my question

well .. last time you said with aplomb that you are a pacific, so I decided to correct my past mistake!

Quote: Bez 310

Did you seriously think that I would drop everything and throw myself to the map?

Well, in general, there was hope for your "navigator" memory .... I confess, you killed hope!

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

stated that you are pacific

Yes, I served at the Pacific Fleet, I declare to you without any aplomb.
I know the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, I know the Japanese Sea, the "Whole" ... - I don't know.
Let's stop, most readers will understand that "the whole water area" is an unfortunate expression.

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

Yes, I served at the Pacific Fleet

Yes, probably on Yelizovo?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

on Yelizovo?

No, I did not serve on Yelizovo, but I often went there, fulfilling assigned tasks, and lived in Kamchatka for weeks and even months.

[Serg65]

Quote: Bez 310

I often went there, fulfilling assigned tasks, and lived in Kamchatka for weeks and even months.

Well, at least for a moment, do you remember the coordinates of Elizovo?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Serg65

Do you remember the coordinates of Yelizovo?

Why do I need it?
If I needed any coordinates, I would find a way to find out. Stop this nonsense ...

[Serg65]

Ok ... stop

[Mole13]

Quote: Bez 310

When contacting me, you can not put the word "navigator" in quotes.

... he said, pouring a misted bottle over the stacks with one hand, and with the other jabbing at a neatly cut fragment from a diploma with the name of his specialty. Drinking companions breathed a sigh of relief - did not deceive! They were no longer interested in the origin of that same diploma, its ultimate beneficiary of the dash, the owner, from whom it is ... in general, what is it ... Even if one of them doubted, the "man with the black eye" had in store for that case iron argument: military secret! So they drank until the morning in the port, and the neatly cut fragment was picked up from the table by the autumn wind and set off across the endless expanses of the WHOLE sea area, and this leaflet did not need any navigator, because this messy piece of paper had a whole specialty ... . "navigational tactical aviation" ...

[Aag]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: Bez 310

This is how you would explain if you know the answer.

As a "navigator", do you not know that the water area is an area of ​​the water surface bounded by natural, artificial or conventional boundaries?

Bucket? ... It fits the definition ... A fire pond? The Pacific Ocean?

[Serg65]

Quote: AAG

Matches the definition

For you, all of the above is suitable without question!

[Aag]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: AAG

Matches the definition

For you, all of the above is suitable without question!

... Agree, you just unsuccessfully "stood up" for a clumsy phrase in the text ...

[novel66]

that's right! and the tank can be used instead of a tractor - and what is there, and the tracks for both

[tlauicol]

various Croatian Finns on their KFOR and MDK were constantly doing this. And even now, almost every exercise. Actually, their ships are called that: landing ship-mine layer

[svp67]

Strange, it seems like Russian ships have always been "a jack of all trades". What is the sensation then?

[xomaNN]

It's good that the landing ships began to be built. Two DKs of project 11711 at Yantar and 2 UDCs at Kerch Bay. Otherwise, the Soviet large landing ships are "tired" or even scrapped.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: xomaNN

Mineral mines are a useful thing, if only there are enough sea mines in the arsenals.

At what point do they become useful?
Before the outbreak of hostilities?
Or after?

In the era of space exploration?
In the era of AWACS / RTR / PLO aircraft?
In the era of fighter-bombers with a combat radius of 1000-1200km?
In the era of anti-ship missiles with firing ranges of 300 km?
In the era of submarines with VNEU and nuclear submarines, capable of diving to depths of up to 600 meters and not surfacing for 2-3 weeks or more?

Minzag is now an obsolete peacetime weapon.
So that now the minefield could calmly lay out a minefield - it must be covered by all the forces of the aviation, navy ... not just about piece units. and whole fleets and air armies.
Cover up.

And what for it to do, if what one Minzag, obliged to be covered by hundreds of planes and dozens of ships, can do, can be done by 10 bombers, with cover from 24 fighters ...?

[Bez 310]

Quote: SovAr238A

can be made by 10 bombers

Aha

[Laksamana besar]

In military acceptance, they showed how they were dropped from the large landing craft (27:07):

[Waterways 672]

I watched how the mines were being placed. The whole block is lowered. The question arises: why are mines placed during the day? I had a chance to participate in a training mine setting, though it was a long time ago. It looked like this. Mines were brought to our destroyer on board KRAZs, and a truck crane put them on the mine paths. The sailors rolled the mines around the ship and secured them with chains. In the evening we went out to sea. At night, an alarm was played - setting mines. The lighting on the ship is only blue shades. The Romanians (bch-3) were in command, and the bch-2 pushed mines on the ute. There, on command, mines along with carts were thrown overboard. The whole thing happened at night, practically in the dark. The mines were placed and left the area.

[Serg65]

Quote: Waterways 672

Romanians (bch-3) commanded

Did the Romanians command everything? And this..horny were not offended that they were commanded by a whole Romanian crucian carp?

[Waterways 672]

The horned were used simply as a labor force. Minami was filled with the upper deck from poop to forecastle on both sides. The Bch-3 was not so numerous, they had enough other problems when setting up, and therefore they attracted the Bch-2. Or what do you think, as in the video, shoved overboard and that's it. In the USSR Navy, if they carried out exercises, everything was so serious and large-scale. During the exercise Baltika-78, our and another destroyer Persistent guarded the SDK SF convoy, in this group there were 30 ships. Then the submarine "sank" us, they did not find it, the station mi110 r did not work for us.

[Serg65]

Quote: Waterways 672

The horned were simply used as labor

Wouldn't it have been easier for the boatswain to engage in this business, the horned ones have enough trouble in setting up their own troubles.

Quote: Waterways 672

At the exercises Baltika-78

Maybe Atlantic-78?

Quote: Waterways 672

guarded a column of SDK SF, in this group there were 30 ships

30 KFOR? Collected from two fleets in one column ???

Quote: Waterways 672

station mi110 r did not work for us

Isn't it Pegasus?

[Waterways 672]

The station is just mi 110 r. Which boatswains to attract? For your information, we had only 56 people on the destroyer pr. 2, and the senior boatswain was also a midshipman. That's the whole boatskommand. And there it really was necessary to roll onto the yacht to drop a large number of mines. As for the KFOR, they are in Liepaja only in the canal that runs near the Winter Harbor, I forgot its name, there were 10 of them on conservation. When firing the main caliber in the warheads-2, people from other warheads were also involved, they were called assigned. Yes, and the exercises were called Baltika-78, they took place at the beginning of July, and on the 20th we went to the BS for 9 months.