Taliban responded to Putin's words about their possible exclusion from the list of banned organizations

The Taliban who came to power in Afghanistan (representatives of the Taliban * group, which is recognized as extremist and banned in Russia) responded to the words of Russian President Putin about their probable exclusion from the list of organizations banned in the Russian Federation. They reacted with approval to this position of Russia.

The position of the new Afghan authorities was expressed on Twitter by Abdul Kahar Balkhi, head of the press service of the foreign ministry of the interim government of this country, which the Taliban calls the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA).

He said that the Taliban * would like to improve relations with other states of the world, based on mutual steps towards meeting.

The IEA Foreign Ministry welcomes the remarks of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin regarding the exclusion of the names of the IEA leaders from the black list. As the chapter of the war comes to an end, the nations of the world must also make positive changes in their attitudes and approach to Afghanistan.

- wrote Balkhi.

On October 21, during a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, Russian leader Vladimir Putin announced the likely removal of the Taliban from the ranks of radical extremist organizations. He said that official Moscow intends to move along this path if the Taliban strive for peace in Afghanistan and will not encroach on the borders of neighboring states.

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[Flooding]

Quote: Invoce

They seized power against all odds

in spite of everything, seize the country with its own army and foreign contingent in a matter of days and with little blood - capital alone is not enough, help from above is needed

[Serg65]

Quote: Flood

need help from above

Help from the new candidate for world hegemon, quoted?

[Flooding]

Quote: Serg65

Help from the new candidate for world hegemon, quoted?

no. "from above" in a good sense of the word.
the citizen wrote that this is a Muslim revolution of the oppressed farmers.
but you have to take my word for it.
since that message has been deleted.

[Serg65]

Quote: Flood

I have to take my word for it.
since that message has been deleted.

I managed to read.

Quote: Flood

it is the Muslim revolution of the oppressed farmers.

Naive delirium!

[Civil]

To be clear:
1. Taliban Muslims with a strict requirement for ALL people to live according to Sharia.
2. All who do not live according to Sharia are kafirs.
3. The Taliban is in jihad against the kafirs.
4. Can you imagine how the Taliban laugh at our Foreign Ministry?

[MikhailRus]

Probably the Foreign Ministry and puts a minus

[Civil]

Quote: MikhailRus

Probably the Foreign Ministry and puts a minus

These are the ones who are afraid of these terrorists.

[abrakadabre]

4. Can you imagine how the Taliban laugh at our Foreign Ministry?

This is how VVP says practically in plain text: "Tie up with jihads and the export of radicalism outside, do not nightmare your own population. And we will consider the issue of excluding you from the list of terrorist organizations."

[Tugarin]

Quote: abrakadabre

And we will consider the issue of excluding you from the list of terrorist organizations "

You can look at it for decades. As an example, one almost European country

[abrakadabre]

You can look at it for decades. As an example, one almost European country

Shhh ... don't fire the office ...

[Incvizitor]

This "country" has been doing nothing for decades except robbery and now who needs such a war?

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Civil

All who do not live according to Sharia are kafirs.

They seem to have allowed women doctors to work and invite specialists, besides, a ban on the cultivation of drugs?

[Civil]

Quote: aybolyt678

Quote: Civil

All who do not live according to Sharia are kafirs.

They seem to have allowed women doctors to work and invite specialists, besides, a ban on the cultivation of drugs?

Read carefully, everyone must be Muslim and live according to Sharia. The other day, news came that a volleyball player was beheaded by the Taliban. And they consider it normal. Are you personally ready to recognize these dushmans as normal people?

[KAV]

Quote: Civil

The other day, news came that a volleyball player was beheaded by the Taliban.

Do you have any real confirmation? Have you been there? So, in the vastness of the network there are both statements and refutations of this incident. You are obviously inclined to believe statements without evidence.

[Civil]

Are you ready to answer for your words? Aren't you taking on a lot, throwing such accusations at me?

And for what purpose are you defending an officially recognized terrorist group in the Russian Federation? What to answer?

https://www.vesti.ru/article/2629642
The young athlete was beheaded and a photo of her execution was posted on social media, according to The New York Post. Also according to the information of Independent Persian ... nothing confuses here ???

Are you saying that the Russia TV channel is spreading fakes?

There were also pictures and videos of himataka in Syria, from white helmets. Do you believe them too?

The Taliban have posted them on their official pages. Themselves and confirmed.
So that others will not be familiar.

[KAV]

Quote: Civil

It is you who are defending the officially recognized terrorist group in the Russian Federation. What to answer?

Read again, carefully, what I wrote in the previous comment!

Quote: KAV

I am in no way trying to whitewash the Taliban. But believing everything that is written on the fence is another indicator of mental development.

Or, you not only believe everything that is written on the fences, but you are also not trained to read carefully?

[Civil]

Read again, carefully, what I wrote

https://www.vesti.ru/article/2629642
The young athlete was beheaded and a photo of her execution was posted on social media, according to The New York Post. Also according to the information of Independent Persian ... nothing confuses here ???

Do you think the state TV channel Russia is spreading fakes?

[KAV]

Quote: Civil

Do you think the state TV channel Russia is spreading fakes?

I believe that any channel can spread fake without even knowing it, referring to other channels. That's what I drew your attention to. But, apparently, you are not inclined to highlight the necessary information from the text?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KAV

I am in no way trying to whitewash the Taliban. But believing everything that is written on the fence is another indicator of mental development.

And the "podzabornaya press" cannot be trusted either.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KAV

Young athlete beheaded and posted a photo of her execution on social networks

The act of violence was condemned by the International Volleyball Federation (FIVB). Its representatives, however, noted that "there are conflicting reports about the true cause" of the death of the athlete, and promised to "seek clarification on the exact details."
Hakimi's relatives denied the information about the execution. They said that the girl had passed away under strange circumstances in early August, but her death had nothing to do with the Taliban.
A relative of the athlete said that Hakimi died on August 6, ten days before the Taliban came to power in Afghanistan. The girl's body was found in a bathroom at the home of her fiancé, Majid Khan, who claimed that the girl had committed suicide.
Well, who to believe? There is no specific data, but there are only media outbursts, among which it is beneficial for the Western media to declare the Taliban killers.
The Taliban are also not stupid people, and it makes no sense for them to give the West a habit right now.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: tihonmarine

The Taliban are also not stupid people, and it makes no sense for them to give the West a habit right now.

The Taliban is a very heterogeneous group of people, I am sure that they have a lot of contradictions inside, In addition, against the background of general poverty, they will close their eyes to drug trafficking

[Siberian]

About a volleyball player - fake, google.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sibiryk

About a volleyball player - fake, google.

Something there she had misunderstandings, and supposedly found her in the groom's house. But the East is a delicate matter, there is no way to deal with a bottle.

[Incvizitor]

the volleyball player was beheaded by the Taliban.

If pro-Western then let them.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: aybolyt678

they are like

That's right, like
A couple more months, maximum a year, and it will be like before the arrival of the Americans. Auls with pure medieval order.

[bashkir]

Read between the lines:
1. Taliban Muslims with a strict requirement for ALL people to live according to Sharia (In Afghanistan, and only in Afghanistan, if not, see the agreements in Moscow with GDP)
2. All those who do not live according to Sharia are kafirs (Well, there is no way to go anywhere, kafirs. That's the way it is).
3. A jihad is going on against the kafirs among the Taliban (It is going on, only within the country, if it goes beyond the framework, see the agreement in Moscow).
4. Can you imagine how the Taliban laugh at our Foreign Ministry (maybe they laugh, only our diplomatic relations do not suffer, people are working, relations are improving, and this is REALITY, no need to drive a blizzard, if it were all bad our diplomats would have left Kabul, but they there. Why? Because the new authorities have already recognized de jure)?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Bashkir

Because the new authorities have already recognized de jure

probably all the same de facto. de jure, this is when the status of a terrorist organization is removed from the Taliban.

[koramax81]

You are confusing warm for soft. The main difference between the Taliban and the same ISIS is the construction of a caliphate only on their own territory.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Invoce
They seized power against all odds

We must ask the Anglo-Saxons and "enlightened" Europe how, according to their rules, power is seized on the example of Ukraine.
Afghan is a big country, and hence a sales market. We will not be there, then "a holy place is never empty", there will be Anglo-Saxons.
And, nobody canceled the fight in Russia by terrorism.

[hagen]

Quote: Terenin

Afghan is a big country, and hence a sales market. We will not be there, then "a holy place is never empty", there will be Anglo-Saxons.

Or China. Which is also not in our favor. We have Nazis cooler than the Taliban by our side. We trade the same.

[Terenin]

Quote: Hagen

Or China.

Yes! How did I forget this quiet "kid"

Quote: Hagen

We have Nazis cooler than the Taliban by our side. We trade the same.

But we are doing this in vain.
Even Putin in Valdai said something like this: "The devil knows what to do with this Ukraine ..."

[hagen]

Quote: Terenin

Even Putin in Valdai said something like this: "The devil knows what to do with this Ukraine ..."

And you believed it? I think that in the Security Council there have long been options (more than one - for sure) solutions other than "I don't know what to do" and "do nothing and wait". It's just that not everything from his (Putin's) bell tower can be voiced.

Quote: Terenin

But we are doing this in vain.

In spite of everything, in Ukraine there are still forces and persons who are on friendly terms with their heads and not completely "Nazi". It is to maintain a certain possible level of this element and do not produce a complete break in relations. This is my version. Hardly anyone will guess what the GDP is in their heads.

[Terenin]

Quote: Hagen

And you believed it?

Don't you believe?

Quote: Hagen

I think that in the Security Council there have been options for a long time (not one

Are there reasons (facts, actions ...) to think so?

Quote: Hagen

In spite of everything, in Ukraine there are still forces and persons who are on friendly terms with their heads and not completely "Nazi".

Experts maybe they are, but they are so deeply silent that it hurts the ear.
Oh, about anti-government force in Ukraine, it is you, to put it mildly, hastened. If not, name it.

[hagen]

Quote: Terenin

Don't you believe?

No.

Quote: Terenin

Are there reasons (facts, actions ...) to think so?

I have...

Quote: Terenin

And, about the anti-government forces in Ukraine, it is you, to put it mildly, hastened. If not, name it.

There is an opinion of ours, confirmed by insider information, that in the event of a conflict between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a significant part of the private and MNS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will almost immediately go over to the side of the Russian Federation. I think that by February 2022 there may be a majority of such people (of course, the do-robots are excluded).

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Terenin

Even Putin in Valdai said something like this: "The devil knows what to do with this Ukraine ..."

Let's say Putin said there:

Did anyone listen to this talk? In the first half, there are unpleasant associations ...
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Now, in essence, the response of the Taliban. Sometimes it is necessary to first change the legal status of the contractual entity, and only then agree to negotiate. In another case, this position "both ours and yours" can lead to unpredictable consequences.
It seems to some that the Taliban have illegally seized state power. Then it is necessary to answer whether it was necessary to accept the puppet government by legitimate authority and why did its outcome, together with the curators, become so fast?
And the Foreign Ministry should not be ashamed of its actions and declare firmly and confidently how it perceives the fact of negotiations and in the hope of what. What is the depth of repentance of the newly minted authorities and how will its guarantees of civilized interstate relations be manifested?

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

Sometimes it is necessary to first change the legal status of the contractual entity, and only then agree to negotiate.

Sometimes it is necessary to present a "carrot" to motivate the opposite side to create conditions under which its status can be changed. Sometimes you need to show the perspective of your possible steps in order to cause a practical oncoming oncoming movement. Agreements with the Taliban will not go into one meeting. They will be asked to do something in practice that can be positively assessed by other decision-making parties, but not participating in the negotiations.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

Sometimes it is necessary to present a "carrot" to motivate the opposite side to create conditions under which its status can be changed.

Like carrots? A rope with soap won't work? With what preferences do they need to be fed? In memory of the warm friendship 1979 -1989? Not all of us have spat in our faces yet. There is also Poland and Ukraine gonoshaya, the Baltic states are rubbing in languor and a desire to buy ... It's a pity, the carrot is over. There are horseradish and radish left ...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

A rope with soap won't work?

You reason primitively. Roughly like some part of Ukrainian politics. Many people offered the "rope and soap" to Afghanistan. They buried a sea of ​​money in the sands and achieved nothing. This apparently taught you nothing. Complex problems cannot be solved by simple measures. And this is not at all a yard showdown, where, at worst, the sergeant will come and "settle" everything. But if for the USA this is the end of geography, then for us it is an open hole in the state border with the Central Asian republics. The strongest peace and predictable relationships are achieved, nevertheless, not with a rope and soap, but mutually beneficial cooperation.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

Primitive reasoning.

I am used to reasoning based on facts and historical experience. There were no enemies in the history of Russia who changed overnight and became friends. If something seems to you, prove it. I will remain with my opinion: in foreign policy, one should be guided by state interests and choose priority areas for both cooperation itself and those involved in this activity. How many more can you harness a horse and a "quivering donkey" into one cart? All these "diplomatic show-offs" of the type: they did not succeed - look how we will do - they thoroughly set the teeth on edge.
Mutually beneficial cooperation does not tolerate intermediaries. And we just don't have enough problems in our own country. In Crimea, for example, has the issue of water supply and waste disposal been completely resolved? Is the Baikal coast cleared? Is the restoration of the Yakut (Siberian) taiga going on? Is the coast of the Far East cleared of waste, and residents have forgotten about the floods? Are there not enough worries in your state?
Maybe it will be the Taliban who will solve them ... together with those migrants who were invited to Russia in order to dilute the ethnic composition of the population?

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

I will remain unconvinced:

Yes, you stay where you want, I am not calling you anywhere. Do you offer a "soap and rope"? Did you want to fight? Will you take the gun in your hands or invite Shoigu and Putin to realize your fantasies? In any case, I believe that diplomacy is always cheaper than active war. Work on reaching agreements with the Taliban does not interfere with the cleaning of Lake Baikal.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

Will you take the gun in your hands or invite Shoigu and Putin to realize your fantasies?

It will be necessary - I'll take them, or something to wait until they get out of the bunker. yes Altai (Tyva) lands will go round ...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

It will be necessary - I'll take them, or something to wait until they get out of the bunker.

And who will "need to"? To you? Except you, no one else has heard the desire for a "rope and soap" for Afghanistan. Will you take a gun ...? How ?! As the one whom you mean as "in the bunker" said: "... the chatter is one ...."

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

And who will "need to"? To you?

Listen, you are a close-minded person. Before talking about any problems, remove your hand from your mouth. What I am entitled to, then I will do. I will not perceive ex-terrorists either as reformed demons or as business partners. I am quite familiar with the methods when they try to show their own friendliness, and then stick a knife in the back.
Russia has no greater interests than the integrity of its own territories and the high prosperity of its own citizens. For this it is necessary to take up arms ...
The beads are over.

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

What I am entitled to, then I will do

Well, that's nice. Do you not perceive something? But this is not required of you. This question is not your flight. We fought with the Germans, but today, with their technologies, our own turbines, for example, have learned to do and much more. Do you keep anything German or French or Chinese in your garage? Thank God, people like you were not allowed to cooperate with Germany and other countries.
But where I should stick my hands, I will somehow decide for myself.

Quote: ROSS 42

you are a close-minded person.

Your mind is not enough, you start to measure someone else? Where can you go without becoming a person ?! It is immediately evident that effective arguments are over ...

Quote: ROSS 42

The beads are over.

I see they are familiar with the Bible ... Well, you read the chapter from the beginning, maybe you will comprehend something sensible for yourself ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

You can see right away that effective arguments are over.

What arguments do you need if you: "The elder said ..."?
I am one of those who agree that turning an institution of culture into a brothel is enough to change the sign (from a joke). I doubt the prospects of the reverse process. Now it is clear?
You can't tame a wolf and make him eat grass ...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

You can't tame a wolf and make him eat grass ...

During our centuries-old history, we managed to make war with all our neighbors. I would like to note that we Russians are far from sheep. I am one of those who believe that the world is developing and changing. As the history of even the last couple of centuries shows, countries in relation to each other periodically move from the category of enemies to allies and vice versa, and more than once. I gave you examples. Probably not entirely convincing. Do you doubt it? Well, no one forces you to think otherwise. This is neither good nor bad. It won't affect anything anyway. It's just not worth boiling ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

I gave you examples. Probably not entirely convincing. Do you doubt it? Well, no one forces you to think otherwise. This is neither good nor bad. It won't affect anything anyway. It's just not worth boiling ...

Facts make you think differently. Would you like to talk in a different way - if you please! To begin with, I will present a video:

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Imagine a volatile world. Here's the closest example: the Vietnam War. How do you perceive Russian-Vietnamese relations in the light of today's events? Where is Vietnam among the countries that have recognized Crimea as Russian territory? Why, having forgiven the world more than $ 120 of debts, are we persistently striving to step on a rake again?
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Afghanistan. To the credit of the leadership of this country (the leadership that was overthrown by the Taliban), they recognized Crimea as Russian territory. BUT!!! This is all they agree to do for the sake of (what preferences) ??? I have already said that the geographical position of Afghanistan and its statute do not guarantee Russia either allies, or assistants, or carefree economic activity. Do we need it? Just tell me if Afghanistan is ready to jump into three cauldrons and be reborn. Perhaps they are only capable of what to say about good "shuravi" and evil Americans? Another aspect that will emerge immediately after the recognition of the Taliban *. Not all countries will agree to cooperate with such a government. What about Russia? After South Ossetia and the Republic of Abkhazia, after Crimea, immediately into the fire? I do not think this decision is correct, but China, Iran and Pakistan will cope no worse (co-religionists, after all, and China is just an economically developed neighbor).
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As for the history of Russia, there are more unanswered questions here than we suppose. And besides, there is a good saying: "The morning is wiser than the evening." To be honest, the restoration of relations with Cuba and Venezuela in geopolitical terms is much more important for Russia. The main thing here is the relationship in the neighboring hemisphere next to the "bosom partner". And then we have some kind of campaign: scolded, regretted and ... forgotten.
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[Terenin]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Terenin

Even Putin in Valdai said something like this: "The devil knows what to do with this Ukraine ..."

Let's say Putin said there:

Did anyone listen to this talk? In the first half, there are unpleasant associations ...
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Now, in essence, the response of the Taliban. Sometimes it is necessary to first change the legal status of the contractual entity, and only then agree to negotiate. In another case, this position "both ours and yours" can lead to unpredictable consequences.
It seems to some that the Taliban have illegally seized state power. Then it is necessary to answer whether it was necessary to accept the puppet government by legitimate authority and why did its outcome, together with the curators, become so fast?
And the Foreign Ministry should not be ashamed of its actions and declare firmly and confidently how it perceives the fact of negotiations and in the hope of what. What is the depth of repentance of the newly minted authorities and how will its guarantees of civilized interstate relations be manifested?

2:55 minutes Putin on Ukraine "... It's a dead end, and I don't know how to get out of it" ... then "... we'll see ..."
Almost as simple as I said earlier

Quote: Terenin

Even Putin at Valdai said like this: "The devil knows what to do with this Ukraine ..."

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Terenin

Almost as simple as I said earlier

That's right, why bother ...

[Vadim237]

For Russia, Afghanistan is primarily a fairly large source of raw materials, in particular rare earth metals, and this area is worth developing.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vadim237

For Russia, Afghanistan is primarily a fairly large source of raw materials, in particular rare earth metals, and this area is worth developing.

And I thought that the prophetic words of M. Lomonosov: "Russian power will grow in Siberia and the Northern Ocean" - is closer to the heart of the Russian people, and the direction is dearer and more familiar ... then they need close by (in the LDNR). Although ... the guys from Venezuela are much closer ...
By the way, there are also a lot of rare earth metals on the territory of the DPRK and the direction is connected with the Russian Federation by rail ... Shall we continue to search for "difficult ways", creating unnecessary problems and worries for ourselves? Perhaps the "Afghan brothers" will thank us very much ...

[Finches]

And rightly so! I do not know how Biden is planning a new world order, but the Taliban definitely have a good and promising plan - "World without the USA!"

[Nexcom]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. (with)

[Gardamir]

Not always. It often happens that having dealt with each other, the enemies will turn on you.

[Nexcom]

Paths in politics are inscrutable ...
Anything can happen in modern politics.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Nexcom

Paths in politics are inscrutable ...

This is when politics leaps out of the fire and into the fire, the political course is checked with a pair of compasses, and time is checked by the ringing of a dog's chain ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Right. This must not be forgotten. But for now, they are allies.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I'll be honest.
I am ashamed! It is a shame that the question of removing the concept of terrorism and extremism from the Taliban * is even being considered.
And the level at which it sounds is doubly embarrassing!

[Hypertension]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And the level at which it sounds is doubly embarrassing!

What level do you mean? Russian Foreign Ministry? Is it the first time to negotiate with the cannibals? It costs them nothing to ridicule the head of Serbia, and bail out with the Taliban thugs *. Therefore, in your case, shame can only be Spanish.

[Vadim237]

And what at the moment the Taliban who have come to power have done terrorist and extremist if you are not aware of the Taliban has branches of dozens of independently operating groups and it is they who are terrorists and bandits.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Gardamir

Not always. It often happens that having dealt with each other, the enemies will turn on you.

Your words to God in the ears. Recently (quite by accident) the United States and Japan did this: some want to spoil everything at our door, while others liked the Russian territory ...

[musketon64]

If a crocodile ate my enemy, this does not mean that the crocodile is my friend.

[musketon64]

[quote The enemy of my enemy is my friend. (c)] [/ quote]
If a crocodile ate my enemy, this does not mean that the crocodile is now my friend.

[Nexcom]

But this is not a reason to immediately shoot this crocodile. It may so happen that this crocodile will be able to devour another enemy in the future.
Or enemies beware of climbing knowing that there is a crocodile nearby.

The main thing is not to rush into action, but also not to miss the moment.

[musketon64]

Why not shoot this crocodile while he chews (digests) the enemy and is in a vulnerable position? Do not wait for him to choose me as his next victim and pounce on me at the moment when I myself may be in a vulnerable situation.

[Nexcom]

I have already answered above - the main thing is not to miss the moment

[musketon64]

So I wrote that this is the very moment. The crocodile is also very good at waiting and sneaking up behind you while you deal with the hyenas. This is called being proactive. And do not wait, who will attack you first - a crocodile or hyenas.

[Terenin]

Quote: Nexcom

The main thing is not to rush into action, but also not to miss the moment.

There is no need to wait for the weather by the sea, it is necessary to establish communication with the authorities of Afghanistan.

[atalef]

Quote: Terenin

There is no need to wait for the weather by the sea, it is necessary to establish communication with the authorities of Afghanistan.

And the fact that they seized power, to overthrow the legally elected government, does it bother you?

[Finches]

Legally elected government under the guns of American troops ?? Here in Ukraine, the legitimate government was overthrown, and you are Jews, for some reason this does not at all excite - double standards, however!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Legally elected government under the guns of American troops ?? Here in Ukraine, the legitimate government was overthrown, and you are Jews, for some reason this does not at all excite - double standards, however!

I don't give a damn about those. as for those.
for some reason it does not bother you.
and the elections in Afghanistan were not under the barrels, now the truth is they will not be at all.

[Finches]

Or maybe this is precisely the desire of the Afghan people that the spirit on their land should not have elections? As well as other nationalities imposing their values!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Or maybe this is precisely the desire of the Afghan people that the spirit on their land should not have elections?

Do you assert or expect this?

Quote: Finches

As well as other nationalities imposing their values!

Including the USSR?

[Finches]

The USSR rested in the Bose, but then he just hated nothing for the Afghan people, except for the socialist values ​​of the one-party system and the fact that houses should have water supply and sewerage systems! School for everyone and free medicine!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

The USSR rested in the Bose, but then he just hated nothing for the Afghan people,

Seriously ? and who fought with the USSR? Alpha Centauri ?

Quote: Finches

in addition to the socialist values ​​of the one-party system and the fact that the houses should have running water and sewerage!

You're funny ,
although following your logic
Maybe the Afghans didn’t want to be forced to water supply and sewerage

[Finches]

You! Dear colleague, on you, please. Nevertheless, I think that sewerage and water supply still play a more significant role in the life of an ordinary resident of Kabul than the opportunity to participate in elections! You can go ask, as well as ask the attitude to the "totalitarian" shuravi and to the "light-faced" pin.sam. Ask a simple dekhanin, not an official who fled with the loot of the administration of the puppet-president Ashraf Ghani, who was chosen in the "popular" elections!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

You! Dear colleague, please. Nevertheless, I think that sewerage and water supply still play a more significant role in the life of an ordinary resident of Kabul than the opportunity to participate in elections!

Have you guessed yourself or asked around whom?

Quote: Finches

You can go ask, as well as ask the attitude to the "totalitarian" shuravi and to the "light-faced" pin.sam.

fought both with those and with those and by the number of victims - butting with the shuravi more seriously

Quote: Finches

Ask a simple dekhanin, not an official

did you ask?
Or again. like from the couch you know better 7

[Finches]

I will satisfy you, you know better from the sofa ... Do you scribble from the center of Kabul or from a mat on the bare stones of the Panjer Gorge? You take care of yourself there! I have not been to Afghanistan, but in the mountains, in my military life, I happened ...

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Do you scribble from the center of Kabul or from a mat on the bare stones of the Panjer Gorge?

No . like you, I just don't say anything, unlike you.
Apparently your sofa is so high that you can see Kabul from it

[Finches]

Your sofa ... And, unfortunately, from it you can see your life already lived! Thank you for the dialogue!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Your sofa

Our far away

Quote: Finches

And, unfortunately, the life already lived is visible from it.

It's too early to bury yourself, but from the height of the past years, I advise you to be less categorical, people tend to make mistakes, even taking into account the life already lived

[Terenin]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Terenin

There is no need to wait for the weather by the sea, it is necessary to establish communication with the authorities of Afghanistan.

And the fact that they seized power, to overthrow the legally elected government, does it bother you?

For some reason, all of the Russians demand embarrassment, remorse, forgiveness, awkwardness, reverence ...
And the military coup in Ukraine does not bother anyone. Ahhh, that's different.
By the way, on August 15, militants of the radical Taliban movement (banned in the Russian Federation) no fight entered Kabul, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani left the country. The Taliban have declared that Afghanistan is completely under their control.

[atalef]

Quote: Terenin

By the way, on August 15, militants of the radical Taliban movement (banned in the Russian Federation) no fight entered Kabul, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani left the country. The Taliban said that Afghanistan iscompletely under their control.

everything is like in Ukraine

[Terenin]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Terenin

By the way, on August 15, militants of the radical Taliban movement (banned in the Russian Federation) no fight entered Kabul, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani left the country. The Taliban said that Afghanistan iscompletely under their control.

everything is like in Ukraine

Do you know the expression "like peas on a wall"

[atalef]

Quote: Terenin

Do you know the expression "like peas on a wall"

A . what was different in Kiev 7
maybe the army got involved for Yanukovych 7 Maybe Janek didn't run away from the country 7
Maybe Ukraine was not under the control of the transitional government?

[Terenin]

Quote: atalef

A . what was different in Kiev 7

Of course in a different way. The people did not support the military coup. This is confirmed by 73% of votes from Zelensky based on the results of the pro-Russian election program and the immediate end of the bloodshed in Donbas.

Quote: atalef

maybe the army got involved for Yanukovych 7

At least "Berkut" from all regions stood up to the end, until this Mr. Nida betrayed him.

Quote: atalef

Maybe Ukraine was not under the control of the transitional government?

What kind of transitional, dear? Read the guarantees given by Germany and France to Yanukovych on the eve of the coup and those who basely deceived.

[atalef]

Quote: Terenin

Of course in a different way. The people did not support the military coup.

Seriously? ... do you live in a parallel universe?
Maybe someone is demanding a Yaneka back?

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Quote: Terenin

At least "Berkut" from all regions stood up to the end, until this Mr. Nida betrayed him.

Everything is like in Afghanistan and the cops then on their knees apologized or ran away with Janek (well, like in Afghanistan)
[quote = Terenin] Read the guarantees of Germany and France who gave Yanukovych on the eve of the coup and vilely deceived

How Americans in Afghanistan to their president
So what's the difference?

[Terenin]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Terenin

Of course in a different way. The people did not support the military coup.

Seriously? ... do you live in a parallel universe?
Maybe someone is demanding a Yaneka back?

Quote: Terenin

At least "Berkut" from all regions stood up to the end, until this Mr. Nida betrayed him.

Everything is like in Afghanistan and the cops then on their knees apologized or ran away with Janek (well, like in Afghanistan)

Quote: Terenin

Read the guarantees of Germany and France who gave Yanukovych on the eve of the coup and vilely deceived

How Americans in Afghanistan to their president
So what's the difference?

Alexander, you really don't know and want to know the difference?
Three lines are indispensable here. Well then sit down and listen to everything on the shelves.
Yes, there are many similarities, but the difference is still significant. Let's talk about the similarities.
First of all, Ukraine is similar to Afghanistan primarily in its American goal-setting. As in Afghanistan, the Americans set out to put their puppet regime in power and stupidly implant a Western-style democracy with all its attributes and possible consequences. The Americans either, as always, arrogantly thought that the consequences of this democratization would bring happiness and prosperity to Ukrainians, or simply cynically hoped to get their submissive satellite-lever of pressure from the soft underbelly of Russia, reformat it Russophobic and shit out of it for any suitable or inappropriate reason. That is why two coups d'etat have been muddied in Ukraine. In 2004, in the form of the "Orange Revolution", which ended in nothing due to unused technologies and the stupidity of horses (V. Yushchenko, companions). And in 2014 - in the form of a "revolution of dignity", which grew into a full-fledged coup d'etat, crowned with the coming to power of obedient puppets ready for anything for money. Ukraine suffers with them. That under the President P. Poroshenko, that for almost three years under V. Zelensky, who became even more of Poroshenko than Petro himself.
Second, in Ukraine, as in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world, the United States relied on three main categories of the population:
a) nurtured, lured and more or less trained agents of influence (these are all varieties of what are called the grant-eaters-sorosets);
b) traitors of their own people, or at least their former views, who serve the United States not for conscience, but for fear and for money, trying to earn favor (these are, for example, the former “regionals” of Yanukovych, who swore allegiance to the Maidan, and big bastards in terms of betrayal and loyalty to new owners still look);
c) people who sincerely believe in American-style democracy and the so-called universal human values ​​proposed under its "sauce". These are both old people and - mostly! - young people who have chosen, relatively speaking, Coca-Cola and not kvass, Hollywood, and not Dovzhenko's studio and not even Mosfilm, jeans, not wide trousers, etc.
All these people will be unambiguously thrown by the United States, as it is now in Afghanistan or even earlier in 1975 in Saigon. Moreover, they will betray both agents of influence, and traitors, and sincerely believed. Americans, with all their polite smiles and false assurances of friendship and loyalty, tolerance and political correctness, as experience shows, treat any “aborigines” as a consumable that is not a pity. Because in the American scheme people, or rather these countries, are only a means of achieving certain goals. Whether or not the goal is achieved as a result is not so important after days and years. Died Maxim, well, as they say, to hell with him.
Thirdly, from the above categories of the population of the United States everywhere they form a neo-colonial administration, which is essentially an internal occupation in relation to the majority of the remaining experimental population, which is strenuous, consistent and - this is the main thing! - forcibly "democratized". The minority, which relies on American bayonets, support and money, imposes new principles and rules of life on the majority. And in everything.
A secular state was molded from Islamic Afgan. Anti-Russia is being molded from Ukraine. Total, in all aspects of life - from politics and economics to faith, history, language, traditions, culture. In Afghanistan, the Americans made a neo-colonial administration of "professional democrats" who received dollars and Afghans for their love of democracy. And in Ukraine - from "professional patriots" who are fattening for handouts for ostentatious, deliberate and loud love for "nenka".
In both Afghanistan and Ukraine, such corrupt "professionals" were, I repeat, a minority, but they aggressively, under someone else's "roof", put pressure on the rest of the population, which was intimidated, disoriented, silent and secretly accumulated grapes of anger in huts or kitchens, not recognizing and denying most of the know-how of the proposed life.
The most important and fate-determining difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine is that Ukraine has nowhere to wait for liberation. No, potentially the current pro-Western-pro-American occupation can be overthrown:
- or those who want to force the Kiev regime to observe basic human rights. For example, Russia, which for many years has been promising to protect its Russian compatriots, who today are not childishly chuckled in Ukraine and, in fact, in an ethnocidal regime, they are deprived not only of their language, but also of their Russian identity in general;
- or the militia corps of the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass - LPR and DPR - who will get tired of Kiev's protraction of peace talks, Ukraine's refusal of Minsk-2 and the continuing shelling of their territory by Ukrainian anti-terrorist operation / JFO troops and punitive neo-Nazi volunteers, and they themselves will go to offensive. And with the support of Russia, they will still take Kiev and stop only at the borders of Galicia. How long have they promised;
- or its own Ukrainian "Taliban" *, which, like its counterpart in Afghanistan, will rely on the majority of the people and, with popular support, will overthrow the pro-American regime in Kiev and throughout Ukraine. And it does not matter where this "Taliban" will be born - in Ukraine or abroad.
But the problem with Ukraine is that it does not have and does not foresee its own "Taliban" *. And inside the country, where all opponents of the regime, who could act as “operators” of popular discontent or protest, have been brutally and even brutally purged. The left in Ukraine sold itself to the authorities even under Yanukovych. And the so-called right-wing opposition from the former "regionals" is today represented by such compromisers and werewolves that there is nowhere to put stigma on them.
In exactly the same way - treacherously and cowardly, hoping to betray each other and thus earn the West's forgiveness for themselves - the oligarchs are coming out too. That is, another force that could potentially accumulate popular protests and channel them against the internal occupation, which, to please its owners, wants to carry out de-oligarchization and "dispossession" of all large Ukrainian owners.
There is also no external platform where this "Taliban" could be conceived, strengthened and trained, receiving support and going through training.
As the former President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, said, the Maidan is successful where there is a US embassy. Or at least Pakistan, where you can hide for the time being and prepare for the liberation of the country. The Ukrainian Maidan and the current post-Maidan period had and still have a US embassy. But the anti-Maidan (or the "Taliban") did not have such an embassy and does not. Because the Russian embassies do not deal with such things. Or they don’t know how.
It is also because Russia has long been promoting a completely different approach to the conquest of its allies - an exclusively economic one. That is, it offers priority to trade and economic cooperation and demonstratively does not pay attention to the nature of the ruling regime, politics or ideology of a potential partner. So with the participation of Russia, the breathing CIS, EurAsEC, CSTO, SCO have been created and are functioning well. Even in the Union State with Belarus, Russia forgives many of the political antics of "father" Lukashenko. For example, he endures his games with “multi-vector”, and only now the picture of “forgiveness” has begun to change somewhat.
But the United States, in addition to economic conquest, is also firmly promoting ideological and spiritual and cultural expansion. And this is often why Pax Amerikana wins the Russian world. And it drives him out of the countries that Washington has chosen for "democratization."
There is also a difference in the fact that there were significantly fewer people in Afghanistan who believed in American charms than in Ukraine. And the fact that the Afghan "pro-Americans" had nowhere to flee en masse - their Muslim country is surrounded on all sides by either the same Islamic states, or borders on China. But everywhere American influence is not very welcome. As well as the carriers of this influence. But in Ukraine, pro-Westerners have a place to run, and they hope so. Maybe not in vain, or maybe not.
* - a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation

[Papazen]

There are no permanent friends and enemies in international politics, but there are permanent interests.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nexcom

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And at the moment, Afghanistan is not Russia's enemy. But it is also impossible to relax, Russia has enemies more abruptly than Afghanistan.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Finches

but the Taliban definitely have a good and promising plan - "World without the USA!"

I will not persuade you that a large number of decent people live in the United States, as in other countries. Moreover, I cannot say for sure when the world community will lose more - when the United States will disappear or Afghanistan will sink into oblivion.
The only correct decision can be a policy of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign states, and military-political and economic pressure in the world community cannot be dictated by the decision of the government of one country.
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Sometimes a small fly in the ointment spoils a barrel of honey. This should ALWAYS be taken into account.

[Esaul]

"It doesn't matter that they are terrorists. The main thing is that they are our terrorists."

[Finches]

Immediately from which side to look - here's an Israeli plane that bombed Syria - is this not a terrorist act?

[Cananecat]

The partisan movement during the Second World War can then be viewed as terrorist from the point of view of Germany. The Taliban attacked the American contingent, and who were the Americans in Afghanistan, if not the occupiers? In this case, the prohibited ones should be viewed in a national liberation vein.

[abrakadabre]

The partisan movement during the Second World War can then be regarded as terrorist from the point of view of Germany.

It is forbidden. Because the actions of the partisans were not aimed at intimidating the entire local population. But only on the invaders and their accomplices. In contrast to the actions of the occupation fascist authorities.

[Cananecat]

Read the commentary carefully.
If you are too lazy, then I will quote especially for you.

as a terrorist from the point of view of Germany.

[abrakadabre]

Read the commentary carefully.
If you are too lazy, then I will quote especially for you.

as terrorist from the point of view of Germany.

So so excuse

[K150]

Quote: Canecat

Read the commentary carefully.
If you are too lazy, then I will quote especially for you.

as a terrorist from the point of view of Germany.

You know how to distinguish sabotage from terrorist acts, or just a shit on the fan?

[Cananecat]

Quote: K150

You know how to distinguish sabotage from terrorist acts, or just a shit on the fan?

Before you smelled

[Incvizitor]

But only on the invaders and their accomplices.

Maybe the Taliban are now only destroying fascinating accomplices?

[BABAY22]

Quote: Canecat

The partisan movement during the Second World War can then be regarded as a terrorist

No.
International law, in particular the Appendix to the IV Hague Convention on the Laws and Customs of War on Land (see doc. No. 31), puts the participants in the partisan movement under protection. So, Art. 1 of the Annex to this convention reads: “Military laws, rights and obligations apply not only to the army, but also to militias and volunteer units, if they satisfy all of the following conditions:
1) are headed by a person responsible for their subordinates;
2) have a definite and clearly visible from a distance a distinctive sign;
3) openly carry weapons;
4) observe the laws and customs of war in their actions ”.

[Gardamir]

Ez, mister esaul, and the fact that your terrorists recently chopped off a girl's head because she dared to play volleyball, how is that?

[MikhailRus]

Nothing for them. After all, the main thing the owners of the authorities wanted so.

[DMi]

Kim Jong-un was also said to have shot the female ensemble. And all of a sudden they all "came to life" en masse in a year.
Filter out liberal propaganda.

[Gardamir]

I hear from a liberal.
I am for statehood, traditions. For the fact that everyone should be judged by their deeds, why is there a liberal? Or have you now enrolled yourself as a Conservative?

[DMi]

And I am for objectivity and the presumption of innocence. To start. Throwing in a hot story about the brutal murder of an "innocent" is a typical and hackneyed method of shaping public opinion. And it still works

[Gardamir]

In which I agree with you. To know for sure about any event, you must be a direct participant in this event.
But now the Taliban are straining by the fact that they are spinning at the borders.

[DMi]

The Taliban will not go anywhere. They have problems inside the country through the roof. And the recognition of the government from the Russian Federation and China is needed. It is not the Taliban who are spinning, they are journalists and propagandists who are spinning. And the Tajiks muddy the waters.

[Gardamir]

Hope you are right.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Gardamir

because she dared to play volleyball, how's that?

And the fact that the Bolsheviks staged mass pogroms and executions in the first years after the revolution among those who disagree, what's that?
Despite the fact that they did not hide the fact that this is a red terror.

[Gardamir]

Yes, to destroy the Soviet Union, it was necessary to throw mud at the communists.
How about the Red Terror in response to the White Terror?

[Cananecat]

The Communists themselves laid a mine under the Union since Khrushchev's times and no one else ... and now they are victims? ))
Was Gorbachev a communist? Weren't the leaders of different levels who bought goods in special stores communists when there was nothing to eat in the country? ))
It will be for you ... BAM and Dneproges were built not by the party nomenklatura, but by people whose faith in the future was sold by the same communist nomenclature.

[Gardamir]

Why did you all have nothing to eat? By the way, I have lived in the Union as much as in the Federation, and I can compare.
And then, if we continue to list the communists, now a communist is also in power.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Gardamir

And then, if we continue to list the communists, now a communist is also in power.

Yes, and they changed their shoes in the first years in the jump, some not once.
Indeed ... these are not communists in my region with a developed dairy industrial complex, people went to Moscow for sausage, sausages, butter. I'd better not say anything about food coupons ...)))

[K150]

Quote: Gardamir

Ez, mister esaul, and the fact that your terrorists recently chopped off a girl's head because she dared to play volleyball, how is that?

One more yap. There was no photo or video of the execution, initially infa appeared in the media affiliated with the west. As a result, it turned out that she had committed suicide a week before the arrival of the Taliban, or her husband had killed her. But shit on the fan is sacred.

[Gardamir]

There was no photo or video of the execution

Are they bringing you first? That’s why you are tearing a shirt for those forbidden in Russia.
But as before, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was accused, but now you are rubbing shoulders with terrorists.

[rocket757]

The Taliban are already running the country ...
Simply "excluding" from all international processes is not the best option.
But which option is the best ... FIG knows.
Most likely, you will have to find a reasonable compromise.

[Egoza]

Quote: rocket757

The Taliban are already running the country.

"Will be strong - everyone will recognize" (f. Ivan the Terrible) If they do not encroach on the borders of our former republics, then why not? In any case, the Afghans did not desecrate the graves of Soviet soldiers, in contrast to the "grateful and enlightened" Europeans. Who knows, maybe they will also come to the rescue against the United States.

[rocket757]

If you figure it out, they have worries / problems for many years to come!
It is difficult to guess how it will turn in the future, while they did not express plans to go somewhere and conquer ...
But the demands not to interfere with them in their country, yes it was and will be.

[RMT]

On the Salang pass there is a monument to the driver Sergei Malygin. All other monuments to Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan have been destroyed. https://ampravda.ru/2013/11/02/040082.html

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

He said that official Moscow intends to move along this path.

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2. Taliban (*)
3. Taliban ()
4. Taliban
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[Chekmarev]

Great news. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If the United States does not want to recognize Crimea as Russian, and Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent, then why should Russia dance to the tune of the United States and not recognize the Taliban as the legitimate authority of Afghanistan?

[Gardamir]

If Gref does not want to admit, but the citizens of Russia have nowhere to go, they still use Sberbank.

[Vadim237]

Gref is simply a manager assigned to run the state - the state office.

[Gardamir]

Gref is just a manager assigned to run the state

that is, it is he by order of the state. Crimea does not recognize?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Chekmarev

Why should Russia dance to the tune of the United States and not recognize the Taliban as the legitimate authority of Afghanistan?

Here the essence of the matter is "a little" in a different situation and the position of Russia on the legitimization of the Taliban movement is not connected with the position of the mattresses on the recognition or non-recognition of Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. It all depends on the UN's decision to repeal the resolution that recognizes the Taliban as a terrorist organization, which, in fact, Russia and China will insist on, since there is simply no other government in Afghanistan physically. Leaving a country with 38 million population in limbo is fraught with both the regionals and Europe, since the absence of normal trade and economic ties will lead to hunger, riots, civil war and a humanitarian catastrophe, and then everyone will get together a not sickly flow of refugees.

[75 Sergey]

If they do not climb into neighboring states ...
Although there is little information yet about what kind of order they are establishing in Afghanistan.
Has China recognized it?
Should NSDAP be recognized as a terrorist organization?

[faterdom]

Only earlier than that, we must get out of the sanctions against the DPRK.
Because it is definitely a perversion to impose sanctions on your own rather strong ally, in which a lot has been invested, including the lives of our soldiers and officers.
Otherwise, it is difficult to get rid of the idea that we, talking about braces and our own conservative path of development (???), in real life do not betray our own interests.
And then, as one old book says: "judge not by his words, but by his deeds ..."

[EugenPin]

If you take off your rose-colored glasses, you will be surprised by the following: Under the threat of an armed attack on the countries of Central Asia (Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan), the Taliban are forcing the Russian leadership to recognize their authority over Afghanistan. Apparently there is no way to protect the southern borders from hordes of armed extremists, but if the whole shobla is recognized, they will quietly begin to crawl over to us and preach their extremist garbage legally, is this a way out?

[Yrec]

The "Kiselev Show" showed an Afghan story, where the Taliban were exposed as fluffy bunnies. This suggests that one will have to make friends with the Taliban anyway, and active steps are being taken in this direction. If, in close cooperation with Iran and China, it is possible to reach an agreement with the Taliban and begin to develop their resources, it will be very good. Also, it will have a beneficial effect on the former republics in the SA and pacify their kings. In my opinion, our "Cambek" is getting ready for Afghan. But this time not on the shoulders of the 40th Army, but by the forces of civilian specialists. Well, and how can we do without "polite people". Without them - nothing.

[Runoway]

I remember the whole country was taught the word "not legitimate" (power in Ukraine) and recognized nothing
It was just as much fun as the Talibov were received in Moscow, at the same time they issued a fine to one publication for the fact that they forgot to indicate in the article * a banned organization in the Russian Federation

[Niko]

That's right, let the girls-volleyball players continue to cut their heads, good comrades

[MikhailRus]

What power, such are friends

[DMi]

Why so many surprised interjections then? The fact that the Russian Federation is ready to be friends with the Taliban was clear five years ago. And contacts with them began to be established even then.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Quote: Canecat

The partisan movement during the Second World War can then be viewed as terrorist from the point of view of Germany.

That is, do you think that the occupier has the right to view the fight against him as terrorism? Or have I misunderstood something? In general, the leadership of the aggressor country, firstly, must understand that a fight will be waged against aggression by all means. Including sabotage. Secondly, for a second, the occupation of adjacent territories is, among other things, state terrorism. Germany brought terror to the territory of the USSR, but partisan actions against the occupiers were only a forced response, and, strange as it may sound, a counter-terrorist operation.

[alystan]

You posted the opinion of the new Afghan authorities on Twitter, how is this possible?
Trump may be offended, because Twitter has banned him forever !? )))
But he is not the kind to be offended, he took the guy and launched his social network, I think he will be able to create serious competition for Twitter over time. And there, you see, he will take up the Taliban, returning the White House. Why should he (they are Americans) change their own essence, which is inextricably linked with American state policy towards the rest of the world, regardless of their party affiliation?

[Incvizitor]

For some reason, it seems that even the Taliban do not have a single centralized government, and each village has its own laws.

[Der Spiegel]

People are being killed there according to the laws they know only, which are unacceptable in most civilized countries. And Putin has already established diplomatic ties with them. Why is ISIS worse? Assuming a hypothetical coming to power, say, in Syria.

[Kuzmitsky]

The new owners of Afgan are far from fluffy bunnies. But they have a fundamental difference from IS. IS is striving for a kind of "world revolution", as in a certain period of the Bolsheviks, that is, the maximum spread of their ideas and power in the world. The Taliban, if they are not lying, have already achieved almost everything they wanted, that is, they became the masters of Afghanistan and established their own rules there. Then they need to preserve and strengthen their power. Their principles and procedures, of course, are creepy, but it is better than IS, Al-Qaeda and others like them.

In general, while they do not go anywhere outside their country, but you need to monitor the situation very carefully and constantly, so that something does not work out.