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The Libyan revolution reached its ideologues (anti-American actions throughout the Muslim world)

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Strange deja vu must have been experienced by those people who saw the image of the American ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, which had been replicated by AFP, which was being dragged away by a crowd of people. As recently as last October, the whole world was discussing amazingly similar shots made in Libya. Only the protagonist was the overthrown Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. Is bitter irony stories still has a place to be. So then do not believe in fatalism and the irony of fate ...

11 September 2012, the American ambassador to Libya Stevens arrived in the so-called eastern capital of new Libya - the city of Benghazi. His arrival from the diplomatic mission of the United States, located in Tripoli, was timed to the opening of the cultural center. However, instead of the cultural action in the city, a real bloody drama broke out, the causes of which are still the subject of wide discussion.

The original version, which is considered official, looks like this. In Benghazi, thousands of people took to the streets for a rally, which was organized so that local Muslims expressed their indignation at the recently released film by the American director Sam Besil “The Innocence of Muslims” or “Mohammed, the Prophet of Muslims”. The trailer for this film can now be found on the vast expanses of the Internet. In his film, Basil decided to show the Prophet Muhammad the most real asocial type, which leads in fact an immoral way of life, is gay and calls on his supporters to violence. It is reported that one of the co-authors of this clearly scandalous film is the equally scandalous pastor Terry Jones, who once had time to cause resentment of Muslims to himself by having publicly burned the Quran. The pastor himself says that the film was shot not at all to discredit Muslims, but to show the “destructiveness” of their religion ... Director Basil said that the film was shot with the money of a certain Jewish community in the USA and shows that “Muslim faith is a cancer "...

For obvious reasons, a new insulting attack on Islam by certain US citizens caused a real storm of indignation throughout the Muslim world. Benghazi was among those cities where it was decided to hold a speech against the release of the movie “The Innocence of Muslims” in the rental and in general against the very idea of ​​attacking the Islamic faith.

The initial information from Benghazi was reduced to the fact that the crowd, infuriated after the information processing, literally rushed to the American consulate, where by tragic accident was Ambassador Chris Stevens. What exactly happened inside the building of the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi is not reported, but the victim of this entire action was the American ambassador, who died on the way to one of the local hospitals. According to the Associated Press, the cause of death was severe asphyxia. Dr. Abu Zeid said that this reason may be related to carbon monoxide poisoning.
If we consider all the events described in Benghazi, it turns out that the ambassador was the victim of the crowd by pure chance. This is the version that the American authorities put forward. They say that the “peaceful” Libyans, who had finally ’democratised themselves definitively since October of last year, didn’t intend to kill Chris Stevens at all. They say that this is all a fatal accident, connected exclusively with the protests of civilians, who “made some little noise”, as a result of which Mr. Stevens became an accidental victim.

It is obvious that such official explanations only fueled interest in the tragedy, especially from American citizens from among Republican supporters. The pro-republican press in the United States described the tragedy in Benghazi as a complete failure of the policy of the current American administration.

After a detailed study of personnel with the very "peaceful" Islamic demonstrations in the second most significant Libyan city, it turned out that among the "peaceful" Libyans there were suspiciously many people in whose hands were machine guns and grenade launchers. This makes it possible to say that the attack on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi was fairly well planned. Obviously, the demonstration itself for certain forces served only as a background. The background on which the main action was unfolding was the murder of an American diplomat. And after all, the militants have thought everything over to the smallest detail: the organization of the action against the film directed by Besil is one, the indignant crowd is two, the arrival of the US ambassador to Benghazi is three. Indeed, everything looks like a fatal accident, but for coincidence there are too many coincidences.

It should be noted that Chris Stevens is a man who at the time of the start of the revolution in Libya was the main functionary of the United States in his plans to connect the American authorities with the armed opposition. In fact, Stevens can be considered a key figure who provided direct assistance to armed anti-government forces in Libya to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi. The opposition, as is known, overthrew Gaddafi (not without the help of the United States). Frames with a bloody colonel, whom a crowd raging with delight drags somewhere along the streets of the city, saw billions of people around the world. But here - they dealt with Gaddafi ... American democracy in Libya triumphed ... Freedom of speech, human rights and everything else ... And again we see a person on the screens with blood on the head and lips that Libyans are dragging somewhere ... Only this person - “The winner”, the ideological inspirer of the Libyan people, who aimed this people to fight the “bloody tyrant” Gaddafi. As the saying goes, "and everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds ..." Yes, not to subtract, not to add.

Apparently, the American political elites who started the car of regional revolutions did not know well how these revolutions usually ended. If they sat down at least for school textbooks on the history of world revolutions, they would see that very often a revolution is inclined to grind not only those against whom it was organized, but then also those who organized it. The case of US ambassador Chris Stevens is a good example.

Washington, realizing that it had fallen into a rather ambiguous position, began to look for ways to solve the problem that had been formed. On the one hand, the Obama administration cannot abandon "democratic achievements" in Libya, calling the victorious terrorists, but on the other hand, it (the administration) will have to demonstrate willingness to defend "the democratic values ​​won by the Libyan people." Apparently, two American warships (destroyers McFaul and Laboon), fifty Marines from the FAST unit (special forces fighters designed to protect American diplomatic missions), unmanned aerial vehicles and the FBI investigation team were sent to protect these “values” in Benghazi. FBI drones and agents, according to Washington’s plan, will have to identify the organizers of the action and the direct killers of Christopher Stevens ... Now the announcement that the terrorists who attacked the American consulate in Benghazi were found is a matter of honor for the current US President Obama.

By the way, it will not be surprising if in the near future we are presented with a photo of a certain terrorist who was accompanied by the text that it was he who 11 of September 2012 had killed the American ambassador to Libya, strangling him with carbon monoxide. And now, they say, this outcast, whom the Libyan democratic people literally cursed for killing the ambassador of a friendly state, was destroyed by American marines in his closet, well, or in the bedroom ... Then the body of this man will be dumped into the sea. And again deja vu ...

It is obvious that after this, the current American president may again crawl up the rating. But this growth is really very necessary for Obama today ... So, both Republicans and Democrats can play Ambassador Stevens’s card in the United States today.

And the closer the elections are in the most democratic country in the world, the more terrible it becomes from such a democracy ...

PS While this material was being prepared, information was received that the wave of anti-American actions literally overwhelmed the Muslim world. They attacked not only the diplomatic mission in Libya, but also the US embassies in Egypt and Yemen. In the city of Sana'a (Yemen), at least one person was killed as a result of pogroms, several were seriously injured. Around the US Embassy building burned cars of American diplomats. By the way, Yemen is another country of the "victorious" democracy, to which the Americans put their hand.

More than five hundred people picket the embassy of Switzerland in the capital of Iran. The Embassy of Switzerland was not chosen by chance: it is this country that represents the interests of the United States in Tehran today.

The grindstones of the Arab revolutions spun in full swing, but in the opposite direction.
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  1. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 14 September 2012 09: 02
    +75
    At least someone from those who let gin out of the bottle fell back on completely.
    Considering who squeezed the under-mattress ambassador, the latter was lucky that he was not put on a stake before the consulate.
    PS I would like to soon see similar shots with Gila Clitors in the title role.
    1. Redpartyzan
      Redpartyzan 14 September 2012 09: 12
      +40
      May everyone be rewarded according to his deeds, the very words in the article are given. It’s a pity, of course, as a person, but if you play a dangerous game, be prepared to pay the highest price if you lose. Paid ...
    2. mongoose
      mongoose 14 September 2012 09: 17
      -5
      no, I don’t understand what Muslims don’t like? did not the one whom they consider to be a prophet allow them to be bestiality? or not "e..l" 9-year-old Aisha? laughing
      in addition, Muslims themselves were noted in the destruction of other people's shrines and insulting the Christian Faith, so that a retaliatory strike is natural
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 09: 25
        +35
        Quote: mongoose

        no, I don’t understand what Muslims don’t like? did not the one whom they consider to be a prophet allow them to be bestiality? or not "e..l" 9-year-old Aisha?

        If you wouldn’t go into religion, a respected, characteristic example for you in photography. You have a well-deserved minus.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 14 September 2012 09: 33
        +28
        mongoose sorry brother join Romanov. Minus. Do not pour kerosene where it is not necessary.

        you see it yourself. that the word sometimes shoots harder than the gun.
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 14 September 2012 12: 43
          +7
          Sparrow, about kerosene, although off topic. The familiar pilot, now a senior citizen, was telling. Not far from their airfield on the collective farm, a club caught fire. there’s no part, it’s far from the district center, they contacted the military, they sent a car from the airfield, began to extinguish, such a firework began. It turned out that the guys prepared fuel for export to the tank, but they didn’t tell the changers, apparently greedy.
          1. VAF
            VAF 14 September 2012 13: 06
            +8
            Quote: sergey32
            about kerosene, although off topic.


            The namesake, hello! I confirm, there were many such cases, especially in the dashing 90s !!! bully +! drinks
        2. mongoose
          mongoose 17 September 2012 08: 26
          +1
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LytE1DH-BhE
          do you speak kerosene? he is already poured and not by us
      3. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 14 September 2012 09: 41
        +30
        Quote: mongoose
        didn’t allow them zoophilia? or not "e..l" 9-year-old Aisha

        Just did not allow it! Do not take the sectarian scumbags - which distort the concept of Islam. (Christians also have them) - and it’s generally not necessary to provoke people on the site — here different nationalities communicate. about the 9 year old is the same.
        1. mongoose
          mongoose 20 September 2012 11: 16
          0
          Kotdavinci you probably didn’t read the Koran
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 09: 23
      +32
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      PS I would like to soon see similar shots with Gila Clitors in the title role

      I hope to see such a report from the United States soon, sowing the wind, reaping death. And this is just the beginning!
      1. Imyaierogliff
        Imyaierogliff 14 September 2012 10: 07
        +14
        May this bright day come soon !!!
        1. Allegedly
          Allegedly 17 September 2012 20: 19
          +1
          Not soon before these bright days, right now the jackals will take security measures for the most do not spoil, but the message reached the whole world, they are not gods ... And even when you pour a bucket of gasoline in the room, it is not a fact that your legs will not light up ...
      2. Denzel13
        Denzel13 14 September 2012 11: 20
        +7
        If they logically continue the line chosen by official Washington, then they should send an even more significant official of the state apparatus to Libya - to show that "everything is fine with us," "democracy is flourishing." Maybe the truth will send Clinton - but dreams.
      3. mark021105
        mark021105 14 September 2012 16: 27
        +7
        Something this S_U_Chka is silent about this incident. I heard about freedom and human rights in the Arab East ... Now I suppose I’m thinking ... They told them, freaks, don’t go to the East with your de_rmokraty ... In the same way, in 2005, Putin spoke about the events in Uzbekistan, “nobody of you does not understand the internal processes that take place there. " Only here Karimov, a downright prostitute, did not appreciate the support of the GDP and went back to P_I_Ndos ...
    4. 1tankist
      1tankist 14 September 2012 09: 24
      +23
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      Considering who squeezed the under-mattress ambassador, the latter was lucky that he was not put on a stake before the consulate. PS I would like to soon see similar shots with Gila Clitors in the title role.


      In addition to your words, Sergei, I want to remind you that Clinton smiled when all the news channels showed the mockery of the crowd at Gaddafi. She stated that such a fate awaits any "dictator" (read the head of an independent state objectionable to the American regime).
      Now let him smile, looking at the last moments of the life of the American ambassador and think about his fate. What goes around comes around. Americans sow hatred all over the world, and here they reap the benefits.
      Hatred of the USA is cultivated by the USA itself, suppressing the independence of other countries and bringing them "freedom and democracy" by bombing.
      1. Ortrega
        Ortrega 14 September 2012 18: 32
        +4
        Quote: 1tankist
        US hatred is cultivated by the USA itself, suppressing the independence of other countries

        If you have a million slaves afraid of you, then you have a million enemies that you must be afraid of.
    5. Rustam
      Rustam 14 September 2012 10: 45
      +4
      For that fought for it and ran
      1. VAF
        VAF 14 September 2012 13: 09
        +9
        Quote: Rustam
        For that fought for it and ran


        Rustam, I greet you +! .. Yes, to repay "everyone" for their "works" ........ what they sowed, they reap ... now .... request
    6. seal7887
      seal7887 14 September 2012 12: 08
      +12
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      At least someone from those who let gin out of the bottle fell back on completely.

      It backfired, but there is nothing to rejoice at, it seems to me. Do you really think that these "Libyan terrorists" killed this ambassador on their own initiative? I'm 200% sure that they are directed and controlled from Washington. And all these "Muslim disturbances" in other countries are organized and controlled from there. The only thing that I do not yet fully understand the ultimate goal of this action, but it is possible that indeed, as it is written in the article, these are banal showdowns for the presidency between the American clans. If so, then we are unlikely to see Clintonich in the role of a victim (at this level, physical violence is too problematic even for them), but individuals with a lower rank (like this ambassador) will probably still be used up.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 14 September 2012 17: 00
        +3
        We will not see Clintonich as a victim, even if Washington does not have a hand. She is impudent, but she is not stupid to go where it is dangerous. She can only come from a safe distance.
      2. arches
        arches 14 September 2012 19: 19
        +8
        The purpose of such provocations is to anger Muslims to the extremes to force to attack and destroy everything European, and even better everything Christian. It is necessary to prepare public opinion in Europe and America, to convince of the inevitability of war with the Muslim world. The more Muslims have such reactions, the better it is for Western rulers, it is easier to convince the backward elector of the need for such a war - but this war will not be the same as before, but total for the destruction of Muslim peoples and the seizure of liberated lands! Therefore: they try to bring radicals, religious fanatics to power so that they, by their actions, more quickly give rise to the West to aggression IMHO.
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 14 September 2012 20: 22
          +4
          Quote: meta
          The purpose of such provocations is to anger Muslims to the extremes to force to attack and destroy everything European, and even better everything Christian.

          quite right and they will have a reason to start a war with Muslims.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 15 September 2012 02: 52
            +1
            Omar! waiting for an answer ! unfortunately the admins once again deleted all comments as if this could solve the question sorry what I am writing here but this is the first where I found you
            1. Ataturk
              Ataturk 15 September 2012 08: 40
              0
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Omar! waiting for an answer ! unfortunately the admins once again deleted all comments as if this could solve the question sorry what I am writing here but this is the first where I found you


              Hi Ruslan. Everything is fine. What question are you waiting for an answer to? My position on the Karabakh problem?
      3. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 17 September 2012 22: 43
        0
        Quote: seal7887
        This is a banal showdown for the presidency between the American clans.

        The chair has long been divided ..... elections in pin-dostan -fars and polit.show ....
    7. Nir
      Nir 14 September 2012 13: 01
      -5
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      At least someone from those who let gin out of the bottle fell back on completely.

      May I ask you? And how did the ambassador as a person as a family man and just a person, as they put it, deserve this retribution? Than? You dear, it seems he has already been condemned for all the US leprosy in Libya? So don’t judge and not be judged, and by what court you judge the same and be given to you.
      ps
      I personally bring deep condolences to the families of the deceased diplomats. And you advice be human beings and not monkeys.
      1. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk 14 September 2012 13: 25
        +10
        Quote: Nir
        May I ask you? And how did the ambassador as a person as a family man and just a person, as they put it, deserve this retribution? Than? You dear, it seems he has already been condemned for all the US leprosy in Libya? So don’t judge and not be judged, and by what court you judge the same and be given to you.
        ps
        I personally bring deep condolences to the families of the deceased diplomats. And you advice be human beings and not monkeys.


        One must be a man to those who deserve it. And that cutie who is carried in dead form by the conductors of democratic freedoms to Libya, also advocated democratization ... well, he was not lucky that he was screwed up first ... it happens, most importantly, that everything is democratic in Libya now.
        By the way, when they mocked Gaddafi’s body in the same way, democracy advocates emitted joyful wow ... so it’s all right, according to his deserts ... I tell him he was lucky, they could put him on the stake, and they squeezed quite humanely ... and family .. well, yes, no luck ... although I didn’t hear any words of condolences when the grandchildren of Gaddafi were killed, therefore my opinion died Nicodemus of Fashington, let’s say friendly H.ren with him!
        1. Nir
          Nir 14 September 2012 13: 40
          -9
          Quote: Sakhalininets

          Sakhalininsk

          Then how do you yourself differ from those
          Quote: Sakhalininets
          champions of democracy emitted joyful wow ...
          ?
          I think if you think so by anything. I am writing about a person and not a system or a state ... but a person has died.
          1. slas
            slas 14 September 2012 14: 37
            +9
            Quote: Nir
            I am writing about a person and not a system or state

            Et as it is favorable to you and write? Do not make yourself pope and mother Teresa
            1. Nir
              Nir 14 September 2012 14: 56
              -3
              Quote: slas
              Et as it is favorable to you and write? Do not make yourself pope and mother Teresa

              Hehe me to holiness as to Uranus on Lada Kalina wink But at the same time, in order to be just a person and understand what is "bad" and what is "good" to be the Pope of Rome, I do not have to express my sickness in connection with death and do not accept mocking comments of some in connection with the death of strangers, although not attractive citizens USA because I am not exalted Hillary and others like them. wink
              1. slas
                slas 14 September 2012 15: 30
                +3
                Quote: Nir
                I do not accept mocking comments of which, in connection with the death of strangers, although not attractive US citizens

                UW R&D was not the first thing we started, but we will have the last word. And in connection with what happened in Libya, you need to understand that what you say about
                Quote: Nir
                And how did the ambassador as a person as a family man and just a person, as they put it, deserve this retribution? Than? You dear, it seems he has already been condemned for all the US leprosy in Libya?

                when discussing in his (ambassador's) face, the whole Ame-ry-ko-skunsky state answers. I understand that our opinions are on your side (but we are parallel), but your advice is similar in your arguments to that vegetarian who died of hunger because of the plants in his opinion, you can’t eat and they are alive and have a soul. So you don’t be upset
              2. Ortrega
                Ortrega 14 September 2012 18: 38
                +5
                Quote: Nir
                I express my condolences in connection with death and do not accept mocking comments of some in connection with the death of strangers, though not attractive US citizens, because I am not exalted by Hilary and others like them.

                And when Gaddafi was executed, or Hussein, did you express condolences?
            2. Alexei
              Alexei 14 September 2012 14: 59
              +3
              Quote: slas
              Et as it is favorable to you and write?

              I support! It is both more profitable and writes.
          2. Sakhalininsk
            Sakhalininsk 14 September 2012 15: 53
            +8
            Quote: Nir
            I think if you think so by anything. I am writing about a person and not a system or a state ... but a person has died.


            We’ll all die, someone sooner and someone later ... So don’t have to squeeze a snotty tear about this death ....
            Over in Syria every day for the money that American diplomats carry to children, the elderly, women cut their heads and you do not broadcast something about the universal tragedy.
            1. Nir
              Nir 14 September 2012 16: 55
              -3
              Quote: Sakhalininets
              So do not crush a snotty tear about the death of this ....

              And no one is pushing, just giving advice not to fall to the level of Clinton, but apparently this is not for you, so to speak, you don’t understand wink
              Quote: mark021105
              Myself say it in the mirror ...

              every morning I remind myself not to turn into someone like you lol
          3. F117
            F117 15 September 2012 21: 28
            +1
            Try to write for each person! Who died in Syria (Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan - your choice). This is a war, and in a war "the forest is cut - the chips fly." Something few intercessors were for Gaddafi, who, in terms of politics and economics, could bring his state to the rank of a North African and Mediterranean power (a la GDP). They just didn’t allow it to be completed. And then some kind of ambassador, some kind of the United States.
          4. favn
            favn 15 September 2012 21: 29
            +1
            Joyful wow, for information, Khilai published, looking at the footage of the assassination of Gaddafi
      2. mark021105
        mark021105 14 September 2012 16: 28
        +2
        Quote: Nir
        And you advice be human beings and not monkeys.


        Myself say it in the mirror ...
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 14 September 2012 17: 03
        +4
        How do you write nicely !!!!!!!!!!!
        Then why did the United States take the right to judge others? And not just judge, but impose your will with fire and sword?
      4. Belarusian
        Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 08
        0
        Thank God! There are adequate people !!!!!! + I join !!!!! drinks
    8. Rowicz
      Rowicz 14 September 2012 13: 15
      +1
      The cat scraped into its ridge hi
    9. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 14 September 2012 21: 15
      +3
      Read the article carefully! in the Russian language, the Goodwill Ambassador died of asphyxia, whether it was carbon monoxide, or something else inserted in one place at the most smooth thereby blocking air access, the FBI group will be sorted out with the support of 500 fur seals and two warships.
    10. Neutral
      Neutral 14 September 2012 22: 05
      +13

      "I had the honor to serve the Libyan opposition as the American representative during the revolution, to watch with trepidation (elation) as the Libyan people defend their rights. Now I am very happy to return to Libya to continue the great work that we have started ..."

      Even a dog that has served the owner faithfully deserves a few kind words, no matter who the owner is. And Mr. Stevens is still not a dog, but a staff member of the US State Department.

      It turns out you need to.
      Well.


      He had the honor... http://www.gazeta.ru/news/lastnews/2011/05/01/n_1819133.shtml

      He knew the trembling of delight... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8KGT17-okM

      He was very happy http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=553560
      and died
      continuing the great work http://warsonline.info/siriya/liviyskie-naemniki-treniruiut-siriyskich-boevikov.

      html,
      which started.

      Not everyone has such a luck.
      1. slas
        slas 15 September 2012 07: 46
        +1
        Quote: Neutral
        He knew a tremor of delight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8KGT17-okM

        Well hto doubted?
    11. phantom359
      phantom359 14 September 2012 23: 05
      0
      Sakhalininsk,
      I fully agree with you. Wanted democracy in Libyan - get it.
  2. Trance
    Trance 14 September 2012 09: 03
    +21
    It is a great sin to mock faith and faith. I won’t be surprised if, among us, those who bow up to worship crosses begin to lynch people right at the crime scene. Believers thank God we have remained.
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 14 September 2012 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: Trance
      It is a great sin to mock faith and faith.


      The main thing is that it’s a pity that they don’t write who wrote the script and who financed this video. That is the question.

      The author of the film “Innocence of Muslims” is Sam Basil, an American of Jewish passage. Some “5 Jews”, whose names he refused to divulge, were given him $ 100 million to create the film. The producer was Pastor Terry Jones, who had already publicly burned the Koran in the United States several times. The film mimics the life of the prophet Muhammad, who is depicted as a child molester, womanizer and a ruthless killer. Basil says he showed Islam as a religion full of hate.


      Again, the Zionists muddied the water. Everything goes to the point that there will be a war of religions and no matter how deplorable it looks, the Zionists are on the sidelines, and their sixes will fight.

      Cool. It is also necessary to be able to.


      BUT VILLAIN IS EVEN BETTER FORWARD

      According to the Associated Press, Sam Bacile, the author of the scandalous movie, said that he regrets the death of Americans in Libya, but blames not himself, but the weak security of the consulate.

      He calls himself an American Jew and claims that more than a hundred donors from the Jewish community gave money for the production of the film. In his opinion, the film was filmed in order to "expose Islam" in the Middle East region.


      I have a question for the Hebrews. Why they will not arrange a revolution seeing this achrine?
      There are normal Jews, why are they silent? Why do not they say that it all stopped? Why do they not understand that some of the Nazis are doing everything to hate Jews around the world.

      Why are you silent?
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 07
        +9
        This is scum, the author of the film.



        I’ll go and print his pictures and I’ll hang him in the toilet, and I’ll wipe my ass off his mug !!!
        Scum!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 08
          +6
          This is not the moron who burned the Koran and killed representatives of the UN in Afghanistan ???
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 17
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            This is not the moron who burned the Koran and killed representatives of the UN in Afghanistan ???


            This is him. The same san of bitch !!!
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 22
              +5
              Ataturk,
              This is him. The same san of bitch !!!

              Outwardly not pleasant, some kind of drunk or what ?! wassat
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 29
                +6
                Quote: Odessa
                Outwardly not pleasant, some kind of drunk or what ?!

                The gallows cries on it.



                И



                DO NOT SORRY, VERY EDUCATIONAL !!
                1. Karish
                  Karish 14 September 2012 22: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  The gallows cries on it.

                  Ataturk, remember your statements about Islam and violence. Killing is easy, re-educating or explaining is difficult
                  1. Ataturk
                    Ataturk 14 September 2012 23: 54
                    0
                    Quote: Karish
                    Ataturk, remember your statements about Islam and violence.

                    There are things that cannot be forgiven. For me, my faith, my religion, my family, my country, all that I have listed is the most sacred for me, there is no forgiveness.
                    1. Karish
                      Karish 15 September 2012 00: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: Ataturk
                      There are things that cannot be forgiven. For me, my faith, my religion, my family, my country, all that I have listed is the most sacred for me, there is no forgiveness.

                      You can forgive everything (almost everything, if only it can not concern the family). If you watched film 13 (Mikhalkov), then Gaft is there, he said a wonderful phrase. .- It happens, everything happens.
                      1. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 15 September 2012 00: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Karish
                        If you watched the movie 13

                        You see uv. Karish, in Azerbaijan, the family is sacred, it is not even discussed. Further, after the Karabakh problem, love for the country, patriotism is propagated in our country in the most severe form, God forbid desecration of anything concerning our country, this is also punished severely. Just Karish, if you do not respect yourself, your faith, your religion, your country, others will begin to defile it. And when you give zvizdyule then they quiet down.

                        Alas, in the modern world I understand only the language of power. Concepts and all that are in the past. Only power.
                      2. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 08: 48
                        +3
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Alas, in the modern world I understand only the language of power. Concepts and all that are in the past. Only power.

                        Dear Ataturk.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        in our country, in the most severe form, love for the country, patriotism,

                        I - for, only the wording - in the most severe form, I do not like. You can’t love from under the stick, it’s in the shower and drive it is not possible. I look at similar comments by Alikbek. Everything seems to be the same, but without violence. Love should be without violence.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Just Karish, if you do not respect yourself, your faith, your religion, your country, others will begin to defile it

                        These things are not related.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        And when you give zvizdyule then they quiet down.

                        Silent, n, yes .... And as I understand it, they immediately love and respect you, faith, country, etc.
                        I doubt it. I myself live in a region with a high level of violence. Silence - yes, respect - the same thing yes, love - never.
                      3. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 15 September 2012 09: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Karish
                        I - for, only the wording - in the most severe form, I do not like.


                        Or I didn’t put it right or I was misunderstood. I wanted to say that, in the Azerbaijani society, there are big changes. For example.

                        Our people, in the old days, was famous for their hospitality. Fortunately, this remains. We did not have cruelty. Rather, they would have done everything to the guest than their own.

                        After Karabakh, namely the Armenians, in us created those whom you saw the situation with Ramil Syafyarov. To put it more precisely, there is no mercy for the enemies than it is possible, as possible, to achieve the goal. We have created patriots in the most severe form. We were not forced, no, we ourselves became such when we saw the deceitful and hypocritical face of world powers. No fear! There is only hatred of enemies. Even though there will be 10 Armenia, even with the size of their army half a million, this will not stop us to start a war. And sooner or later we will start a war.

                        Many experts did not expect to see patriotism in such an ardent form. I love my country and love my people, I will not allow anyone to say anything about my country. I am currently abroad, I am going home soon, but if someone tells me something about my country, I will repeat the story with Safarov.

                        Can you imagine how great hatred of Armenians is, what our women say, they would strangle them with their bare hands. This is not good, it cannot be fixed, they have one chance to return our lands, or they will really regret it !!!!

                        More precisely, 90% of our people are all Ramil Safarovs. Identical. And Russia should stand in the neutral direction, because there is nothing for the Russian guys to suffer.
                        In fact, we show that we are not afraid of anyone, no one will stop us. Unless the nuclear bomb can be stopped, then it is in question. We will no longer offend our country. And each person who will be in trouble, our president helps him out!
                      4. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 09: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Our people, in the old days, was famous for their hospitality. Fortunately, this remains. We did not have cruelty. Rather, they would have done everything to the guest than their own.

                        I have wonderful friends, 2 couples from Baku, it is simply not possible to find more pleasant, hospitable and well-mannered people.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        After Karabakh, namely the Armenians, in us created those whom you saw

                        What the Armenians have done does not raise a question for me, Karabakh is not an integral part of Azerbaijan. The war leaves its mark on the whole way of life. and for a long time everything will be divided into before and after.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        no mercy for the enemies than possible, how can achieve the goal.

                        I agree. You just need to clearly define the concept of enemies.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        We have created patriots in the most severe form. We were not forced, no, we ourselves became like that when we saw the deceitful and hypocritical face of world powers

                        Here I am about that. it’s not possible to make a patriot by force, you can become one, in general in difficult times * sleeping * inside of each of us patriotism wakes up. He was there, Ataturk, just dozing off to the occasion.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        And sooner or later we will start a war.

                        No doubt
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        but if someone here tells me something about my country, I will repeat the story with Safarov.

                        In general, I’m probably older than you and therefore more tolerant. I can understand it unambiguously and Safarov’s act does not deserve unambiguous conviction
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Can you imagine how great hatred of Armenians is, what our women say, they would strangle them with their bare hands

                        Let the showdown provide men.
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        And Russia should stand in the neutral direction, because there is nothing for the Russian guys to suffer.

                        But this you will not wait. would be neutral. Karabakh would have returned to its place long ago
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        . We will no longer offend our country

                        Respect
                      5. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 15 September 2012 09: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Karish
                        What the Armenians have done does not raise a question for me, Karabakh is not an integral part of Azerbaijan. The war leaves its mark on the whole way of life. and for a long time everything will be divided into before and after.

                        This is more than enough for you to put a plus and shake hands and say the doors of my country are always open for you.

                        Quote: Karish
                        But this you will not wait. would be neutral. Karabakh would have returned to its place long ago

                        That is, Russia is ready to lose the radar, is ready to give up the billions that we spend on the purchase of weapons, Russia is ready to see Azerbaijan integrated into the West and for whom? Armenia where there is nothing left Armenian? Well, I don’t know, I don’t know.

                        In ANY case, thank you dear friend for your post, I reread it and it's nice that we are not alone and especially that there is justice in the world. Thank. Very nice!

                        Regards, Omar.
                      6. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 09: 53
                        0
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        In ANY case, thank you dear friend for your post, I reread it and it's nice that we are not alone and especially that there is justice in the world. Thank. Very nice!

                        Good luck.
                        Tomorrow, with Alibek I will play backgammon, here it’s for sure luck will be required
                      7. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 14
                        0
                        There are different degrees of forgiveness, agree. You can establish an extreme measure of radicalism in relation to yourself - and then you need to cut out the whole world, respected.
                      8. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 12
                        0
                        12. Jury - 12
                      9. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 16: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        12. Jury - 12

                        Well, added one on my own. But the game Gaft is fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      10. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 16: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Karish
                        Well, added one on my own. But the game Gaft is fantastic

                        By the way, one of my favorite films that I watched !!
                        There, in general, everyone plays super !! Makovetsky, Garmash .. no, well done !!!))
                      11. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 18: 14
                        0
                        Gaft played poorly there. Caricature And the end is washed away. There are a couple of good roles - the director of the cemetery and Garmash. Another doctor.
        2. Kamilla
          Kamilla 14 September 2012 12: 56
          +2
          Quote: Ataturk
          This is scum, the author of the film


          Omar ... he looks like an idiot (no wonder that he made such a film ... everything is clear. negative
        3. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 10
          +1
          Ataturk
          Of course, the person is obscure, but I feel that if he would have attacked the Jews, Orthodox Christians or Buddhists with the same criticism, the reaction would be somewhat different. Actually, being an atheist, I’m not going to discuss the frivolities of religion from any faith, but it seems to me that a normal person who is offended by other people's words goes to court, and does not clutch at the ax, but if the serious seriousness of Christians suddenly blows, what will Islamic world??
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 16: 47
            +3
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            but I feel that if

            While I see the opposite. Alas.
          2. Belarusian
            Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 19
            +1
            Then they will be kind and smiling - they will call you brother and swear in love and friendship! !!!!! wink I’m telling you as an atheist to an atheist. drinks
          3. mizantropi
            mizantropi 16 September 2012 14: 12
            0
            It will be an alarming paragraph. Just something.
        4. elenasvetlova
          elenasvetlova 14 September 2012 15: 49
          +6
          an empty skull is visible through the eyes
        5. Forward
          Forward 14 September 2012 18: 46
          0
          And hto is this in the photo?
        6. bremest
          bremest 14 September 2012 22: 36
          0
          This pastor is just a screen (a picture of the cover), and behind it are those who financed the creation of the film, and these are Jewish circles in the USA and Israel. There is a version that US Republicans are behind this film in order to harm Obama and prevent him from being re-elected for a second term.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 15
            +2
            Jewish circles are strong. For some reason, it turns out that behind this stood the Copts, actively humiliated in Egypt.
            1. kNow
              kNow 15 September 2012 16: 18
              +2
              Quote: Pimply
              For some reason, it turns out that behind this stood the Copts, actively humiliated in Egypt.

              As soon as the "spring" calms down, people will understand who played them off and they will beat the Americans. Therefore, they will try to do everything as in Libya and Iraq - it is a must-see show ...
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 15 September 2012 18: 16
                +1
                Dear, do you really think that there were no internal reasons for this "spring"? Do you think this is the first time this happens? The Americans in most cases found themselves on the bandwagon of the outgoing trip - who in FIG needed to exchange obedient Mubarak for Islamists?
        7. vikruss
          vikruss 15 September 2012 14: 19
          +2
          And for me personally, scum more resembles the one who creates shame and dirt about which this Old Man speaks. But the Old Man is actually talking about inconsistencies in Islam. ... They say we are all so peaceful and good, only facts ... facts ... and facts speak about something else. You see, ... When a 12-year-old girl is dragged into bed by a man with a beard and pray to Allah 3 times a day, in Saudi Arabia, and make her their 5th wife, and then she dies in childbirth ... this is by the way from the news VVS ... is that so Karan teaches? Or killing innocent people in the same Syria, squeak like a pig "Allah Akbar" does your Allah really get glory from such vile deeds, aren't you ashamed of your so-called brethren, for their deeds? Or maybe He i.e. Karan teaches to "fuck" your victims before you kill them .. I doubt Karan teaches this, but this is all too often in the practice of Islam_Jihad. All such scum that creates such crimes and calls itself Muslims, never knew and does not know what it means the True God is and what HE generally wants from people ... this is about this very shame this Old Man says that the affairs of Islam are far from the fact that Karan must teach ....... yes, here's another ... this stupid film this Old One did not create ... <By their deeds you will recognize them> ... said Christ. And the old man is only messenger here and no more.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 15 September 2012 14: 52
            0
            Quote: vikruss
            When a 12_ year old girl

            Aisha’s age has a lot of data, and there are contradictions !!

            In the collections of hadiths of the most respected muhaddis, including Bukhari, Muslim, Nasai, ibn Maj, etc., as well as some historians like Tabari, there are reliable hadiths on the chain of transmitters and other indicators that Aisha at the time of marriage Muhammad was 6 years old. And she moved to his house at the age of 9 (Canan I. Kütüb-i Sitte muhtasari. C. 15. Ankara, 1995, s. 486.).

            However, this data contradicts other reliable reports from the same collections of hadiths, when a chronology of other dates associated with this information is compiled. If we take these data into account, it turns out that Aisha at the time of marriage with Muhammad was actually older. She was 12-13, 17 and even 27 years old.

            Ibn Hisham and some other historians have information that Aisha was among the first people to convert to Islam, which means that at the time of marriage she was 15 years old (Ећakir M. Hz. Ademden bugГјne kadar Islam tarihi. C. 2. Istanbul, 1993, s. 153.). In addition, some historians and researchers provide evidence that, before the Prophet, Jubair Ibn Mutim wore it and she was over 17 years old. “The fact is that many historical chronicles provide information about the sister of Aisha Asma, who died at the age of 100 in the year 73 of the hijra. This means that she was 27 years old during the Hijra (the relocation of the Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Medina). At the same time, it is known that Aisha was 10 years younger than her. And this, in turn, means that by the time of her marriage to the prophet Muhammad she was 17 years old ”(Berki AH, Keskioglu O. Hatemul-Enbiyya MG Mhammet ve ve hayati. Ankara: 1993, s. 211).

            In the collections of the hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim, there is a hadith from Aisha who says: "I was a child playing in the street when the verse from Sura Gamar was revealed to Muhammad in Mecca (46)." And this verse was revealed in the 4th year of the Meccan period of the Prophet. That is, a child of 5-6 years old can play on the street. This means that in 614 (4th year of Muhammad's prophecy in Mecca) she was about 5-6 years old. The Prophet married Aisha in 620, and after another 2 years she went to her husband. This means that in 622, when she went to the house of Muhammad, she was 13-14 years old.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 20
              +1
              It is also worth adding that the age of marriage and so on in those days was significantly lower. People lived a lot less. The traditional age of marriage in the same Europe - and in Russia afterwards, was 12 -15 years in the Middle Ages.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 17
            +1
            Allah is prayed 5 once a day. Wives may be 4.
          3. Belarusian
            Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 22
            +2
            So nobody saw this fil !!! 99% of these zealots of Islam do not have a computer !!!! Wild people what do you want from them ??????
        8. mizantropi
          mizantropi 16 September 2012 13: 37
          0
          In this "most important country in the world" there are practically no normal people.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 02
        +1
        Ataturk
        this is for fans to wave red.
        U.S. federal authorities have identified a Coptic Christian from Southern California, who is on probation following his conviction for financial crimes, as the key figure behind the anti-Muslim film that sparked a wave of protests in the Islamic world and widespread violence against US embassies throughout the Middle East. This was reported to the Associated Press by an official representative of the US law enforcement system.
        According to him, the authorities concluded that 55-year-old Nakula Basseley Nakoula is behind the movie Innocence of Muslims, which contains mockery of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, which provoked a wave of protests in the beginning this week in Egypt, Libya and Yemen. It is unclear whether Nakula will be the subject of criminal prosecution or part of a broader investigation into the death of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Libya. US Attorney General Eric Holder confirmed that the Department of Justice is investigating the death of the ambassador during the attack on the US mission in Benghazi.
        The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the details of the ongoing investigation, said in an interview with the Associated Press that Nakula was connected with a certain Sam Bacile, who had previously told AP correspondent that he was the screenwriter and director of the film . However, the mobile phone number from which he spoke led to the owner of the house in Southern California, where the Associated Press correspondent managed to find and interview Nakula.
        This person initially told the AP that he was Jewish and Israeli, but later Israeli officials said that such a citizen does not appear on the registry at the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Other participants in the film stated that his allegations are fiction and that in fact he is a Coptic Christian with a dubious past.
        In an interview that Nakula gave the AP outside of Los Angeles, he said that he was not making the film and that he was not Basil, but he knew him. The documents filed against Nakula in federal court in the 2010 year, when he was prosecuted, noted that he used a lot of pseudonyms, including Nicola Basil, Robert Basil, Erwin Salame and others.
        During a conversation near his home, Nakula showed his AP the driver’s license to prove to his identity, while holding a finger on his middle name - Basseley.
        An AP correspondent notes that he received the mobile phone number of a man calling himself Baisil from Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian, a U.S. citizen who has advertised this anti-Muslim film on his website in recent days.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 19: 18
        +2
        Ataturk
        The author and producer of the film found. They have nothing to do with either the Jews or the Zionists, which by the way is often not the same thing. Will apologies for misinformation and lies follow?
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 14 September 2012 20: 26
          +1
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Will apologies for misinformation and lies follow?

          But I did not blame the Jew. Never. I say I know many Jews, golden people.
          And if you thought that I blame the Jew, then you are mistaken, and if I wrote this, then I apologize of course!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 21
            +2
            You blamed the Zionists. And which ones - there are many different
        2. amikan
          amikan 15 September 2012 13: 13
          +4
          Of course, ordinary Jews have nothing to do with it, but the Zionists had a hand in it
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 15 September 2012 13: 49
            +4
            Here I am a simple Jew, a Zionist and have nothing to do with this film. tongue
      4. Karish
        Karish 14 September 2012 22: 00
        +4
        Quote: Ataturk
        Again, the Zionists muddied the water. Everything goes to the point that there will be a war of religions and no matter how deplorable it looks, the Zionists are on the sidelines, and their sixes will fight.

        Cultivate Atatürk, (in the sense of education) Jews and Zionists are far from the same thing. I already gave you an example about a cat and a pussy.
        I don’t even want to remember about the director. there is a fresh minfa who he is and where from.
        Naturei Karta (also Neturei Karto; Aram. נְטוּרֵי קַרְתָּא; Aram. נָטוֹרֵי קַרְתָּא, Natorei Kart - “city guards”) is a Jewish religious community that sharply speaks out not only against Zionism (like some other ultra-Orthodox movements), but also against the existence of the State of Israel.

        This is so for general development, Adon Atatürk (by the way adon-lord (Hebrew)). It is the same for general development.
      5. Belarusian
        Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 14
        +1
        Sorry. But you yourself saw this movie ?????????
    2. skullcap
      skullcap 14 September 2012 11: 29
      +6
      The reaction of our creative intelligentsia to these events, expressed in its (reaction) absence, is interesting.
      Something is not visible next "letter 100" from the pillars of the Russian intelligentsia in support of the freedom of creativity of the creators of this film.
      What is it? Surely smarter? Or just a banal fear for the safety of personal hides?
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 14 September 2012 11: 33
        +5
        So the question is, you bastards, about Jesus or Moyaysey at least 1 Muslim said something bad or showed? When they are both one of the revered people in Islam.
        The bastards know that this is a painful topic for Muslims and they know where to push.
        And then they say that Muslims are animals. So who is the beast and the barbarian? Who is subhuman?


        But I have a question for everyone, and who are they? Who are those who insult Islam?
        Who are those who provoke the Islamic world?

        Religious Muslims live in Pakistan, they don’t think that they can seize power, and there NUCLEAR WARS, what will they do if they fly 360 degrees to all sides?

        THEY ARE READY TO DIE IN JIHAD AND YOU?
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 14 September 2012 11: 51
          +14
          Omar, with all due respect, with jihad, too much.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 03
            +2
            Quote: vorobey
            Omar, with all due respect, with jihad, too much.

            My dear, what is happening in the world now?

            DER-MO-KRA-TIYU is sought and built in the Muslim world.
            They insult with caricature and films and the burning of the QURAN against Muslims.

            Do you really think that this will pass them so easily? Understand that Muslims love their faith, love their religion, and it is an honor for them to die for their faith and religion, that I will not say about the WEST.

            They are ready to die for faith !!!! They dream of dying for faith. Because, a 100% guarantee that they will go to heaven.

            That's the thing, dear Sparrow
            Why don't they build democracy in a Christian country? why only muslims touch?
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 13
              +4
              Ataturk,
              Why don't they build democracy in a Christian country?

              So the country is called Christian only formally. Here, a believer, Colonel Kvachkov who focuses on Russianness and religion languishes in prison. What kind of democracy, dear Omar, do you want to hear?
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 21
                +9
                Quote: Odessa
                What kind of democracy dear Omar, do you want to hear about?

                Esther, my dear, I know that there is no such word as democracy. They just created it. An ideology for the sake of struggle.

                I am stating a fact. That not one Muslim country, not Jesus, does not offend Moyasey, why others allow themselves to do this and say in our country der mo-raciya, freedom of speech, and so on.

                All this suggests that the USSR, with its shield and curtain, where only good could be said, was the best of all that could be created!
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 16
                  +2
                  Ataturk
                  I don’t know how Muslims are, and Jews have always loved to laugh at their prophets. Why not? And they were people with disabilities.
                  1. Ataturk
                    Ataturk 14 September 2012 16: 50
                    +6
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    I don’t know how Muslims are, and Jews have always loved to laugh at their prophets. Why not?

                    how can one laugh at a prophet? I won’t even laugh at Moses and Jesus at gunpoint of Kalashnikov. These people said the word of God on earth.
                    If anyone wants to laugh, the cinema world page opens and watches comedies.
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 18: 50
                      +2
                      Ataturk
                      What does it mean how? Fun! fellow In general, as I read from Paul Anderson: "And then I remember that the Enemy lacks a sense of humor. And vice versa, I am sure that God loves to laugh ..."
                      So religious fanatics of any faith will lose because they lack a sense of humor.
                    2. Karish
                      Karish 14 September 2012 20: 39
                      0
                      Quote: Ataturk
                      how can one laugh at a prophet? I won’t even laugh at Moses and Jesus at gunpoint of Kalashnikov. These people said the word of God on earth.
                      If anyone wants to laugh, the cinema world page opens and watches comedies.

                      Do not take everything so booze. You can laugh at them and believe me there is something. God is in the heart, and the perception of faith as an unshakable postulate, the rock is not right. The prophets are the same people and the same mistakes and probably laughed at something.
                      In general, one of the rules of Judaism is to check and doubt, it makes you think and, as a result, strengthen in the faith as well. at least be aware of your path. with respect hi
                  2. amikan
                    amikan 15 September 2012 13: 22
                    +1
                    Jesus talked a lot about Jews killing their prophets (they probably laughed, killing them)
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 15 September 2012 14: 04
                      +1
                      amikan
                      What Jesus said, we cannot know, for words are interpreted by his disciples, who, by the way, were also Jews. But in general I would like a direct quote, albeit on their interpretation.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 52
                        0
                        Paul’s Christianity was sufficiently changed - initially, in order to become a Christian, you had to become a Jew
                    2. Pimply
                      Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 51
                      0
                      It is worth noting: “Do not go to the Gentiles and do not enter the city of Samaryan; but go first to the lost sheep of the house of Israel ”(Matthew 10: 5-6). For all the time of his prophecy, Jesus did not introduce a single Gentile to his faith.
                    3. Belarusian
                      Belarusian 15 September 2012 19: 54
                      0
                      Where is he saying this ?????? fool
                2. Rumata
                  Rumata 14 September 2012 15: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  I am stating a fact. That not one Muslim country, not Jesus, does not offend Moyasey, why others allow themselves to do this and say in our country der mo-raciya, freedom of speech, and so on.

                  I ascertain the fact that not one Buddhist will kill a mosquito or a fly, why do Muslims, Jews and Christians kill these cute insects on the right and on the left? DOCLE?
                  No need then do not do Muslims because of their laws, shift to the rest of the world, such laws not having. Jews do not eat pork, but Christians eat, how can that be ???
                  1. 11Goor11
                    11Goor11 15 September 2012 04: 22
                    +3
                    Rumata
                    I ascertain the fact that not one Buddhist will kill a mosquito or a fly, why do Muslims, Jews and Christians kill these cute insects on the right and on the left? DOCLE?
                    It is not necessary, what Muslims do not do because of their laws, to shift to the rest of the world, they do not have such laws. Jews do not eat pork, but Christians eat, how can that be ???

                    Demagogy. For you, the "killing" of mosquitoes and the incitement of religious hatred planned by the special services are the same thing?
                    Some kind of blindness
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 53
                      0
                      Democracy is a form of government, no more. Moreover, democracy is different. What are you talking about?
                    2. Belarusian
                      Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 35
                      0
                      so of these pogroms only Iran and al Qaeda benefit !!!!! And speaking of special services, these are Iranian (Muslim country) special services hi
                    3. Belarusian
                      Belarusian 15 September 2012 20: 01
                      +1
                      religious hatred - if some kind of film offends your religious or party feelings - DO NOT WATCH THIS FILM (and you will not be offended fool ) If some kind of caricature also offends you, do not look at this caricature !!!!!! fool If some poem offends you, DO NOT READ THE VERSE fool ------ BUT DON'T ORDER TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT TO SEE READ THEM TO REMOVE !!!!!!!!!!! MORE THAN IF THESE PEOPLE LIVE THOUSAND MILES FROM YOU !!!!!!!! fool
                  2. amikan
                    amikan 15 September 2012 13: 24
                    0
                    it is not clear what I wanted to say?
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 53
                    0
                    Buddhists kill regularly. Recent clashes in Myanmar, for example. Do not kill a mosquito or a fly - this is ideal. In fact ...
                  4. Belarusian
                    Belarusian 15 September 2012 17: 33
                    0
                    And you will defeat the embassy of some country with shouts about the pro-Orthodox insulting the feelings of Jews eating pork! And in general, the Jewish Christ was appropriated to be recorded as Orthodox ????? with or without) drinks
                3. mark021105
                  mark021105 14 September 2012 16: 33
                  +3
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  All this suggests that the USSR, with its shield and curtain, where only good could be said, was the best of all that could be created!


                  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++

                  There is absolutely nothing to add to this !!!
                4. Pimply
                  Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 37
                  +4
                  Dear Ataturk. Jesus and Moses - no. Do you know why? That's right, because they are mentioned in the Quran, and in a very respectful form.

                  But let's recall other cases.

                  Afghanistan, for example. The shooting of statues of Buddha.
                  Scheme, aka Nablus - the destruction of the grave of forefather Joseph. I will not remember about the desecrated and destroyed synagogues and churches - there were too many of them. After the war of the 67 year, the entire Jewish quarter of the Old City had to be restored.

                  In a number of Islamic countries, death is laid for the transition from Islam to another faith.

                  There are severe restrictions on the life and work of non-Islamic communities. Will we remember other things? I have a lot of them.

                  And note - I sharply distinguish religion itself from its interpreters. And those who interpret it as kill and destroy, now there are too many.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 15 September 2012 16: 22
                +3
                Colonel Kvachkov, sorry, Esther, a figure extremely controversial
              3. Karish
                Karish 15 September 2012 16: 29
                +2
                Quote: Odessa
                from, a believer, Colonel Kvachkov who focuses on Russianness and religion languish in prison. What kind of democracy, dear Omar, do you want to hear?

                Dear Esther, just to understand. You mentioned Kvachkov many times in your posts, he is a relative of you or why such affection. Maybe there are some feats that we don’t know, enlighten.
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 15 September 2012 16: 42
                  +2
                  Karish,
                  Dear Esther, just to understand. You mentioned Kvachkov many times in your posts, he is a relative of you or why such affection. Maybe there are some feats that we don’t know, enlighten.

                  Kvachkov has no support on this site. The fact is that, as I read, he wanted to create a party with religious (Orthodox) convictions. So why is there an ANCH (religious party) in Israel and not in the Russian Duma?
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 15 September 2012 16: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: Odessa
                    .So why in Israel is there a ShchAS (religious party), but not in the Russian Duma?

                    Esther. Well, why do you want state. Duma such (sorry) HAS type hemorrhoids.
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 15 September 2012 17: 05
                      0
                      Karish,
                      Esther. Well, why do you want state. Duma such (sorry) HAS type hemorrhoids.

                      I don’t think so. If such a truly patriotic prathia ever appears in Russia, then they will knock out the fifth pillar in the bud. They will wipe out the State Department puppets, etc. This is of course in the classic version. Nevertheless, the Cossacks are already objecting to Russia. But new, it's all well forgotten old.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 17: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: Odessa
                        I don’t think so. If such a truly patriotic pratomy ever appears in Russia, then they will knock out the fifth column in the bud. They will wipe out the State Department marianettes, etc.

                        remember the pre-revolutionary period!
                        Certainly, as then, those who take advantage of the patriots have nothing to do with the situation!
                        For me, it is necessary to revive the monarchy in Russia - this is the solution !!
                        Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the most correct way out !!
                      2. Odessa
                        Odessa 15 September 2012 17: 22
                        +2
                        Yarbay,
                        For me, it is necessary to revive the monarchy in Russia - this is the solution !!

                        The monarchy is a secondary issue, but what Kvachkov is talking about is more interesting, but still the party is better. We have already seen from the example of Israel. Those who stand for their electorate, that is, their electorate, stand up for them.
                      3. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 17: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: Odessa
                        Nevertheless, the Cossacks in Russia are already reviving. But the new, it’s all well forgotten old.

                        I don’t think there are things lost forever and if there is no chain of transmission of traditions, then this will be ersatz + local conditions. An example. very simple, I have a friend, a millionaire and all the businesses he has in the Kuban. And strangely enough, the Cossacks are protecting his business, and of course he pays them and even brings them to Israel for treatment. For this, he was promoted to Yesaul (Yesaul like it) of the Kuban Cossack army with the delivery of a cloak and checkers. By the way, when I saw this burka, I found out about everything. And now tell me what Borya is a Jew in Israel, Yesaul of the Cossack army, if he can only sit in a burka in the refrigerator.
                      4. Odessa
                        Odessa 15 September 2012 17: 18
                        +1
                        Karish,
                        And now tell me what Borya is a Jew in Israel, Yesaul of the Cossack army, if he can only sit in a burka in the refrigerator.

                        Karish, tell me, has already begun to celebrate? How do I know what some kind of Borya is doing, and also Esaul in Israel. Maybe it’s easier to ask him directly? winked
                      5. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 18: 19
                        +1
                        Celebrate tomorrow.
                      6. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 20: 29
                        0
                        Quote: Odessa
                        Karish, tell me, has already begun to celebrate? How do I know what some kind of Borya is doing, and also Esaul in Israel. Maybe it’s easier to ask him directly?

                        It’s a rhetorical question, better explain how it became one (in the light of the revival of the Cossacks) and why they protect them instead of protection.
                    2. FREGATENKAPITAN
                      FREGATENKAPITAN 15 September 2012 21: 10
                      0
                      .... It should be added that in our Duma there are more Jews than in the Knesset .... :)
            2. Alexss
              Alexss 14 September 2012 12: 29
              +3
              die for your faith? say it to the protestant and catholic fanatics from northern ireland

              Muslims in the Arab and North African countries have long taken an extreme form, a detailed happening with Christianity in the Middle Ages. And here there are only two ways out: either similar trends of Islam should be destroyed along with their followers or either reorganized into more cultural forms
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 47
                +4
                Quote: AlexSS
                Muslims in the Arab and North African countries have long taken an extreme form, a detailed happening with Christianity in the Middle Ages. And here there are only two ways out: either similar trends of Islam should be destroyed along with their followers or either reorganized into more cultural forms


                YOU ARE MINUS BOLD!
                Who is killing Afghans and Iraqis and Libyans and Syrians and Somalis?
                and HOW to call it? And in the Middle Ages and in the modern world, Europe and the United States showed that they are worse than the most complete extremes.

                Can you tell us about the delights of the Crusades and the Inquisition?

                Or maybe it's time for the Christian world to respect Muslims? And do not touch them? Maybe you should answer as respectfully to our prophet as you relate to Jesus?

                Quote: AlexSS
                currents of Islam must be destroyed

                Why is there always the word DESTROY in your ambitions? Or maybe dialogue and build a new cultural society that will respect people and their faith?

                Why is the caricature of the Buddha and Moyeysey not shared? Namely, are they attached to Mohamed?

                Why films are shot beautifully about Christianity, especially THE PASSIONS OF CHRIST, about BUDDHA, and as about ISLAM, filth right away is filthy. On the body of pros-ti-tut-ki write KORAN. What normal person will do it?

                From all I come to the conclusion that this is done SPECIALLY !!! So scum!
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 22
                  +4
                  Ataturk
                  If you look, then Muslims kill Muslims once in 100 more than Gentiles. The Crusades are a bad thing. I agree, and the Islamic conquest of Africa, BV, Cf. Az and parts of Europe are of course great?
                  Then what is the Jewish world, the Christian world or the Muslim world when it comes to the creativity of a particular person? What did LA Christians or Australian Jews know about this film? I believe that the splash of Salafis is banditry.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 September 2012 21: 10
                    +2
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    If you look, then Muslims kill Muslims once in 100 more than Gentiles. The Crusades are a bad thing. I agree, and the Islamic conquest of Africa, BV, Cf. Az and parts of Europe are of course great?

                    about 100 times this is of course your lie! But what were the consequences of the crusade, how was it carried out and how did the Islamic conquest take place?

                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    I believe that the splash of Salafis is banditry.

                    Wahhabis call Salafis- ignorance and moral banditry!
                    1. Karish
                      Karish 14 September 2012 21: 27
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Wahhabis call Salafis- ignorance and moral banditry!

                      Good evening Alibek. You are theoretically 100% right. Wahhabis and Salafis are completely different things. But you must agree with me among the Salafists (calling for the practice of early Islam, you can say * pure * Islam) a large number of faithful believers (since the very definition of pure, true, not * polluted * Islam) young people and people with a fragile psyche create quite a few let's say not good things. hiding behind faith and dirtying Sufism.
                      You know, Judgment Day is coming soon, on this day all Jews go to synagogues and pray for forgiveness. All life in the country freezes, transport does not go, everything is closed (we are talking about cities with Jewish populations and the same areas)
                      But in Israel not only Jews live and this day for others, I won’t say that it’s a drum, but life does not end., But SPECIAL REASONERS of the FAITH (who have not heard about it all year, crawl out at intersections and throw stones at passing cars, because they insulted their religious feelings, not understanding (or understanding) that they could just kill. So if you look at the contingent throwing stones on Judgment Day in Israel, at the embassies in Cairo and crowds raging in religious ecstasy, you will find among the socio- economic indicators of the last many about the general.
                      As with backgammon, we can play it somehow. need to find a platform. Regards, Sanya.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 07: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: Karish
                        You are theoretically 100% right. Wahhabis and Salafis are completely different things. But you must agree with me among the Salafists (calling for the practice of early Islam, you can say * pure * Islam) a large number of faithful believers (since the very definition of pure, true, not * polluted * Islam) young people and people with a fragile psyche create quite a few let's say not good things. hiding behind faith and dirtying Sufism.

                        Dear Alexander, if you would study this question more deeply, and not relying on the books of contemporaries, you would take away that this is not at all!
                        Let's leave Sufism aside and not to be confused!
                        Just read about the Wahhabi religious views from the first days !!
                        Al Wahab’s family (and his father was really a sheikh and a religiously literate man) drove him out of the house for him blasphemous looks
                        You see in Wahhabism there is not even a fraction of * pure Islam *!
                        Quote: Karish
                        In the embassy in Cairo and in general crowds raging in religious ecstasy - you will find a lot in common among the socio-economic indicators of the latter
                        Sanya, I agree with you, moreover, I consider these pogroms a common crime!
                        But I am sure that those who make provocative films and do all sorts of provocations are exactly what they count on !!
                        Quote: Karish
                        As with backgammon, we can play it somehow. need to find
                        platform

                        in the face wrote)))
                        With friendly greetings!!
                      2. Karish
                        Karish 15 September 2012 08: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You see in Wahhabism there is not even a fraction of * pure Islam *!

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You see in Wahhabism there is not even a fraction of * pure Islam *!

                        What in my comment went wrong. I don’t touch Wahhabism at all - extremist trend,. Pure Islam I talked about Salafis.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        But I am sure that those who make provocative films and do all sorts of provocations are exactly what they count on !!
                        Quote: Karish

                        In general, the world has gone crazy, and one of the reasons, with the help of the Internet, is to make some muck and get away with impunity.
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 09: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: Karish
                        What in my comment went wrong. I don’t touch Wahhabism at all - extremist trend,. Pure Islam I talked about Salafis.

                        I, too, about this Sanya !! Wahhabis call themselves Salafis, and I think so to call them a crime!
                    2. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 15 September 2012 00: 12
                      +2
                      Yarbay
                      Those. Are not Muslims slaughtering Muslims in Pakistan? And in Iraq, in Sudan, in Somalia, in Turkey, in Western Sahara, and in the North Caucasus?
                      As for conquest, it went with fire and sword. All North Africa, Lebanon, Syria, Ymen were Christian, Jews and Christians lived in Judea50 / 50%. You want to say that they called on Muslims to come, deprive their ancestors of their religion, and turn those who did not break into Zimmis, i.e. Second-class people?
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 07: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        Those. Are not Muslims slaughtering Muslims in Pakistan? And in Iraq, in Sudan, in Somalia, in Turkey, in Western Sahara, and in the North Caucasus?

                        and what is a hundred times more than the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan ???
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 17: 10
                        +1
                        To be honest, yes. For example, I recommend recalling only one of the wars - the Iran-Iraq. And there were many
                    3. Pimply
                      Pimply 15 September 2012 17: 07
                      0
                      Dear Alibek. Unfortunately, this is not a lie. I can remind. The same Iraq is a Sunni-Shiite confrontation. Iran-Iraq war. Syrian conflict. Lebanese conflict. Strip. I can recall hundreds of historical facts. Hundreds, dear Alibek.

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Wahhabis call Salafis- ignorance and moral banditry!

                      And here, I'm sorry, Aron is right. In this surge there was a considerable influence of the Salafis
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 17: 14
                        +2
                        Quote: Pimply
                        And here, I'm sorry, Aron is right. In this surge there was a considerable influence of the Salafis

                        Dear pimple, read my comments please carefully!
                        Who called the Wahhabis Salafis ??
                        Wahhabis themselves and enemies of Islam !!
                        For a Muslim, Wahhabis are not Salafists!
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 September 2012 18: 19
                        +1
                        Wahhabis are not Salafists - I do not even argue about this.
                2. Alexss
                  Alexss 14 September 2012 15: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why is the caricature of the Buddha and Moyeysey not shared? Namely, are they attached to Mohamed?


                  Google to help


                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Who is killing Afghans and Iraqis and Libyans and Syrians and Somalis?


                  as I understand it, you all want to write off to the Anglo-Saxons? count how many Muslims died from the bombs, and how many in the attacks? or how? 10 murdered Muslims say goodbye to one killed infidel

                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why films are shot beautifully about Christianity, especially THE PASSIONS OF CHRIST, about BUDDHA, and as about ISLAM, filth right away is filthy.


                  who pays and orders music!

                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Or maybe a dialogue


                  dialogue needs both sides
                3. Rumata
                  Rumata 14 September 2012 16: 03
                  -1
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why is the caricature of the Buddha and Moyeysey not shared? Namely, are they attached to Mohamed?

                  Thousands of them



                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why films are shot about Christianity beautifully

                  The vast majority of films about the Middle Ages show Christianity in a bad light because of the Inquisition, if examples are needed then
                  "Ghosts of Goya"
                  "Well and pendulum"
                  "Joan of Arc"
                  etc
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 September 2012 21: 06
                    +1
                    Rumata are films about representatives of Christianity, not about the prophets!
                    And I condemn those pictures that you posted!
                    This for me shows your nastiness!
                    Maybe someone will like it, but I feel sorry for you and hands, I would not have succumbed to you!
                    1. Ataturk
                      Ataturk 14 September 2012 21: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Maybe someone will like it, but I feel sorry for you and hands, I would not have succumbed to you!


                      How can one mock people who have spoken the word of God on earth?
                      I do not understand. He is a bastard, not a priest, he is a mu-duck, because he does not know that God is one for all.
                    2. Rumata
                      Rumata 14 September 2012 21: 23
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Rumata are films about representatives of Christianity, not about the prophets!
                      And I condemn those pictures that you posted!
                      This for me shows your nastiness!
                      Maybe someone will like it, but I feel sorry for you and hands, I would not have succumbed to you!

                      What kind of kindergarten? They wrote above that they do not laugh at the prophets of other religions, I proved that this is far from the case. Then they wrote that about CHRISTIANITY films are soft and fluffy, and about ISLAM, on the contrary. I gave examples where this is not so; there was no talk of films about the prophets. Do you bother to read the comment to which I replied before depriving me of the dubious privilege of shaking your hand ...
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 07: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        They wrote above that they do not laugh at the prophets of other religions, I proved that this is far from true

                        I did not write this, do not LIE !!
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I did not write this, do not LIE !!

                        Not you, but a commentator under the nickname Ataturk, there you can clearly see who I quoted and who answered !!!
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 12: 23
                        +2
                        Dear you answered my quote or not ??
                        You quoted my quote in your answer!
                      4. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 31
                        +3
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Dear you answered my quote or not ??

                        Since 90% of my comments in this thread have been deleted, I will restore the chain of events.
                        1. Ataturk wrote a blatant lie that they only laugh at Islam, but Buddha, Moses or Christ are not touched. Google issued hundreds of thousands of photos, I took off the 3 most peaceful, as proof that this is not so.
                        2. The same commentator wrote that the films show Islam in a bad light, and the other religions are vice versa. I gave as an example an example where Christianity is shown from the bad side, there are dozens of examples. There was no talk of films about the prophets, the conversation was general.
                        And then you burst in and start blaming me for something, without even bothering to follow the chain of discussion.
                      5. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 12: 56
                        +2
                        Quote: Rumata
                        And then you burst in and start blaming me for something

                        I don’t know what chain you are talking about, I saw under my quote a statement in my address that I didn’t say !!
                      6. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You quoted my quote in your answer!

                        Nothing of the kind, my message was deleted, but I quoted the same phrases as Alex above

                        http://clip2net.com/s/2iMnk
                    3. Pimply
                      Pimply 15 September 2012 17: 27
                      +1
                      Dear Alibek. نبي in Islam for the most part coincide with the prophets in Judaism and Christianity. I am wrong? And perhaps this is the only reason. Because both Judaism and Christianity cry out as soon as they can. And I'm not talking about most Muslims. But those that are radical are becoming more and more. It is so simple to hate someone.
                4. Pimply
                  Pimply 15 September 2012 17: 01
                  +2
                  Yes, they did. At that time, Christianity was in its radical stage. Islam, by the way, was not sugar either.
                  A number of countries openly hunted piracy - as, incidentally, the Europeans.

                  Most Islamic countries had strict laws on the life of Jews, Christians, and Gentiles: they included construction, walking along the same street in the rain, clothing patches, special taxes, and much more.

                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why is the caricature of the Buddha and Moyeysey not shared? Namely, are they attached to Mohamed?


                  Caricatures of Moses, of Buddha, of Gd were made repeatedly.



                  The problem is that during the caricature of the Prophet Muhammad, this caused a wave of murders and pogroms, attacks on Christians and Jews, and the threat of death against the cartoonists.

                  Please note - making a movie is not about bad Islam. Specifically, about radical Islamists. Who really tried to earn themselves an appropriate reputation. Because before, the villains in the films were Germans, Russians, Irish terrorists.
            3. vorobey
              vorobey 14 September 2012 12: 33
              +10
              Quote: Ataturk
              DER-MO-KRA-TIYU is sought and built in the Muslim world. It is insulted with caricature and films and the burning of the QURAN against Muslims.


              All Christians? or more sectarians are perverts. You mentioned Jews and the Jewish community above. but gradually switched to Christians and jihad. Omar is not competent and unprofessional. From this preacher, I’m a Christian like me, a ballerina from me. All the same, let’s thoroughly clean the grain from the chaff. or 90 is not enough for us. Let's start proving again whose faith is more correct?
              1. Karish
                Karish 14 September 2012 20: 46
                +6
                Quote: vorobey
                All Christians? or more sectarians are perverts. You mentioned Jews and the Jewish community above. but gradually switched to Christians and jihad. Omar is not competent and unprofessional. From this preacher, I’m a Christian like me, a ballerina from me. All the same, let’s thoroughly clean the grain from the chaff. or 90 is not enough for us. Let's start proving again whose faith is more correct?

                Everything is much simpler, in many Muslim countries the situation because of internal contradictions is tense to such an extent that any minor cause gives an outbreak of violence. Look at which countries are raging, backward, poor with a huge layer of impoverished youth. In the world (if I’m not mistaken, about 60 countries with a predominance of the Muslim population) but all the same rage all the same, why? Because they are more faithful - no. There is simply a very large stratum of unemployed, idle youth with a complete lack of prospects, they need a reason to let off steam, and if the reason is in America, God simply ordered
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 21: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Karish

                  Everything is much simpler, in many Muslim countries the situation because of internal contradictions is tense to such an extent that any minor cause gives an outbreak of violence. Look at which countries are raging, backward, poor with a huge layer of impoverished youth. In the world (if I’m not mistaken, about 60 countries with a predominance of the Muslim population) but all the same rage all the same, why? Because they are more faithful - no. There is simply a very large stratum of unemployed, idle youth with a complete lack of prospects, they need a reason to let off steam, and if the reason is in America, God simply ordered

                  You came later than everyone, but in my opinion gave one of the most sensible comments on the topic!
                  I would even say the best!
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 14 September 2012 22: 21
                    +2
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    You came later than everyone, but in my opinion gave one of the most sensible comments on the topic!
                    I would even say the best!

                    Alibek, thanks, it’s possible for you for a long time. Regards, Sanya.
            4. Ortrega
              Ortrega 14 September 2012 18: 50
              +2
              Quote: Ataturk
              Why don't they build democracy in a Christian country? why only muslims touch?

              And they just think that democracy has already been built there, look, the whole of Euryope under American influence, the East remains, but they forgot with their clumsy methods that the East is a delicate matter.
        2. Alexss
          Alexss 14 September 2012 12: 04
          +1
          for Muslims, Jesus and Moses are the same prophets as Muhammad, only earlier! But for the Christian church, Mohamed is a swindler, for the Jews, both Mohamed and Jesus are such, so here everything is logical and logical
          1. Kamilla
            Kamilla 14 September 2012 12: 48
            +6
            Quote: AlexSS
            so everything is logical and logical here


            there is nothing logical here ... one must respect someone else’s religion ... for example, Islam does not recognize Buddhism ... but civilized Muslims visit Buddhist temples ... and respect this religion .. I do not mean barbarians who ruined Buddha statue in Afghanistan ... and civilians. And I believe that among Christians and Jews, there are millions of cultural and civilized ones ... and they will not go so far as to consider the prophet of another religion a scam ... it says only about ignorance and narrow thinking ... nothing more ..many who read the Qur'an consider this book to be truly prophetic ....

            “I swear that this Qur'an, from which modern science is 1400 years behind, cannot be human speech. This is the true speech of the Almighty. ”
            Jacques Cousteau.
            1. Ataturk
              Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 52
              0
              Quote: Kamilla
              “I swear that this Qur'an, from which modern science is 1400 years behind, cannot be human speech. This is the true speech of the Almighty. ”
              Jacques Cousteau.


              Why are you going so far? Look how Russian men accepted Islam and what they say about Islam







              1. Karish
                Karish 14 September 2012 20: 57
                +3
                Ataturk, you’re being pulled over 100 thousand videos now, as you switched from (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism) to (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism) and everyone’s eyes will burn and lips will shake from religious ecstasy.
                In general, I am very distrustful of people who suddenly changed their religion or simply began to believe fanatically. They remind me of Herbolife sellers - with fire in their eyes, convincing you by personal example, but in fact it all consists in the desire to bring you another batch of pills.
                No bigotry, please.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 21: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: Karish

                  Ataturk, you’re being pulled over 100 thousand videos now, as you switched from (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism) to (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism) and everyone’s eyes will burn and lips will shake from religious ecstasy.

                  Then I certainly agree with you!
                  Moreover, it is still unknown to accept Islam, what kind of knowledge about Islam and what its purpose is !!
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 14 September 2012 21: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    Moreover, it is still unknown to accept Islam, what kind of knowledge about Islam and what its purpose is!

                    Alibek, in our department one pretzel, after being cured of cancer (the glory of medicine), began to believe not that it was cured, but as they say, we returned to the answer (i.e. to religion)
                    Already tired, pestering everyone, frightens with the end of the world, a tsunami that will wash away all non-believers, earthquakes and generally punishments of heaven. if we are like him. we will not abandon earthly affairs and do not begin to sway to the beat and shake the psalms in shaking pace. People no longer know where to go. It’s a pity he doesn’t understand Vysotsky
                    He spoke breaking his hands
                    Krasnobay and balamut
                    About the powerlessness of science
                    Before the secret of Bermuda, -
                    He broke all brains into pieces,
                    All gyruses are braided -
                    And the rope authorities
                    They prick us a second injection.

                    Dear Editor!
                    Maybe better - about the reactor?
                    About your favorite moon tractor ?!
                    After all, it’s impossible! - year in a row:
                    That scare plates -
                    Say, vile, fly;
                    Then your dogs bark
                    That ruins - they say
                    !

                    Here is such garbage.
            2. Alexss
              Alexss 14 September 2012 15: 50
              +1
              Quote: Kamilla
              And I believe that among Christians and Jews, there are millions of cultural and civilized ones ... and they will not go so far as to consider the prophet of another religion a fraud ..


              therefore, only all sorts of eccentrics come out against Mohamed and the Qur'an, with the letter M, but in which case almost the entire Muslim world rebels!

              as they say make a difference in culture!
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 16: 52
                0
                Quote: AlexSS
                because then only all sorts of eccentrics come out against Mohamed and the Koran, the letter M

                +1
            3. Karish
              Karish 14 September 2012 20: 51
              0
              Quote: Kamilla
              “I swear that this Qur'an, from which modern science is 1400 years behind, cannot be human speech. This is the true speech of the Almighty. ”
              Jacques Cousteau.

              For many hundreds of years of the epistolary genre and a huge number of great people, you can pull quotes on any topic, often sign it with the name of some famous person - nobody will check it all the same.
              Write your opinion, it is much more valuable. hi
            4. Evil Tatar
              Evil Tatar 14 September 2012 20: 52
              0
              Quote: Kamilla
              many who read the Qur'an consider this book to be truly prophetic ....

              “I swear that this Qur'an, from which modern science is 1400 years behind, cannot be human speech. This is the true speech of the Almighty. ”
              Jacques Cousteau.

              Jacques Cousteau, although respected throughout the world by man (scuba invented, studied the seas and oceans, etc.), but apparently said this under the impression))))))
              Populism in one word ...
              Well, how could Jacques Cousteau read the Quran in the original in Arabic?
              It is worth noting that advanced Muslims do not trust the translations of the Koran into other languages, believing that when translating, deliberately someone makes corrections and errors, which creates the possibility of the appearance of radical Islamists who have nothing to do with true Muslims ...

              Radical Islam is not a true religious movement, but someone’s cunning substitution in order to destroy the Muslims, in the end, themselves ...
              http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%9D+%D0%B0+%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D
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              1. Karish
                Karish 14 September 2012 22: 31
                0
                Quote: Angry Tatar
                Radical Islam is not a true religious movement, but someone’s cunning substitution in order to destroy Muslims, in the end, themselves ..

                (=), although I would give another statement
                Revolution devours its children


                Words spoken before the execution by the famous figure of the Great French Revolution, Georges Jacques Danton (1759-1794). He became one of many victims who died from recent associates.
                So often many good undertakings end if the percentage of people like Ataturk (excuse me, but your views seem too radical to me) exceeds 15 -20%.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 55
            +4
            Alexss
            as far as I know, but I emphasize that I was interested in this as an atheist, among Jews the names of prophets are not mentioned in prayers at all. They are nothing more than people chosen to bring the will of Gd to people, but people. There is nothing sacred in them. In Jewish prayers, a person directly addresses Gd.
            1. Kamilla
              Kamilla 14 September 2012 16: 07
              +4
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              There is nothing sacred in them. In Jewish prayers, a person directly addresses Gd


              In Islam, too ... Muhammad, the Prophet, a historical person ... but when Muslims pray, they turn to Allah.
              1. Karish
                Karish 14 September 2012 21: 06
                +2
                Quote: Kamilla
                In Islam, this is also the case ... Muhammad, the Prophet, a historical person ... but when Muslims pray, they turn to Allah

                Historical, and ... Tell this Christian or Buddhist or Jew (and vice versa) that Jesus, Mohammad or Moses are historical figures. A normal and educated man will simply shrug and say - Great, and ....
                In general, God is one and it is advisable to turn to him without intermediaries.
                1. Ataturk
                  Ataturk 14 September 2012 21: 23
                  +4
                  Quote: Karish
                  In general, God is one and it is advisable to turn to him without intermediaries.

                  Right.
            2. Karish
              Karish 14 September 2012 21: 03
              +2
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              They are nothing more than people chosen to bring the will of Gd to people, but people. There is nothing sacred in them.

              If only the Jews would react to all advertising. commercials and humor. programs where all the prophets are shown in all situations, then probably there would be nothing left from Israel at all. Nobody on this not only doesn’t stupid, but has a lot of fun - why not. All the same people.
            3. Pimply
              Pimply 15 September 2012 18: 02
              0
              All Jewish prayers are for Gd. Prayer appeared as a replacement for the currently impossible sacrifice.
        3. Bismark
          Bismark 14 September 2012 12: 37
          +7
          Ataturk
          Dostoevsky quote. With an insult to the Islamic religion, they took a particular step, and this is not the first time, I partly agree with you, but it’s concrete with Jihad.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 57
            +1
            Quote: Bismark
            but with Jihad, the search is concrete.

            What is JIHAD?

            I HOPE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

            Jihad (from the Arabic. الجهاد [dʒɪ'hɑ: d] - "effort") is a concept in Islam, meaning zeal in the way of Allah. Jihad is usually associated with armed struggle, however, the concept is much broader.
            Jihad in Islam is the struggle against one’s spiritual or social vices (for example, with lies, deceit, depravity of society, etc.), the elimination of social injustice, constant zeal in the spread of Islam, waging war with aggressors, punishing criminals and offenders[1]. In addition, in Arabic, the word "jihad" means any effort or diligence, in particular in work, study, etc.


            BUT if militarily then

            According to the Qur'an, every Muslim must [2] be diligent in affirming and protecting Islam, spend for this their material means and all their strength. In case of danger, it is necessary to rise to an armed struggle against the enemies of the faith.


            Now answer what you would do at the moment if you were in our place. Respond to yourself dear. I know my answer !!!

            Regards Omar
            1. Bismark
              Bismark 14 September 2012 14: 50
              +3
              I suspected the concept of Jihad was much broader, thank you for the information.

              Now answer what you would do for a moment if you were in our place.
              YES, and so it’s clear what we would do. Would defend themselves. Now we see that the United States, in addition to its disrespect for Islam, is trying to play on it. Yes, and most in the West know that Jihad is a fight against infidels, no one delves into the concept itself, and so it turns out a horror story for the population of Western countries.
              PS The situation is very similar to the Crusades.
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 16: 53
                +2
                Quote: Bismark
                PS The situation is very similar to the Crusades.

                +1 only the name has changed .... democratic campaigns.
                you plus
            2. Karish
              Karish 14 September 2012 21: 10
              +3
              Quote: Ataturk
              What is JIHAD?

              I HOPE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

              Ataturk, do not quote about jihad, that this is the path of faith (which, of course, is absolutely correct), but in the minds of many, jihad, shahid, etc. have a very specific meaning related to violence and murder.
              You know a wet cat and a wet pussy, the same thing seems to be the same thing, but in fact things are absolutely unrelated to each other.
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 14 September 2012 21: 26
                +2
                Quote: Karish
                but in the minds of many, jihad, shahid, etc. have a very specific meaning related to by violence and killing.


                The fact that many ignoramuses are their problems! Must read! Why did I read the Bible and respect this book because this is the word of God on earth that Jesus conveyed to people and what Muhammad said is insulting. They say that he was sleeping with a 9 year old girl. RAVE!!!

                There is no violence in Islam. Islam FORCES to protect your home, country, honor, in any way! Protect!!!!

                For example, a priest who burned a book of the Koran does not know that God is one for all? Why do we respect their religion and ours not?
                1. Karish
                  Karish 14 September 2012 21: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  The fact that many ignoramuses are their problems!

                  Nothing of the kind, this is not the right position. You cannot prove something to a person without speaking his language and without using his concepts and without considering his idea of ​​life. What is your goal? To prove his innocence, for this you need to speak a person being at the same level with him. From Olympus to the people do not scream.
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  and what Muhamed said is offensive. They say that he was sleeping with a 9 year old girl. RAVE!!!

                  Without fanaticism, if you believe in Allah, sincerely, it will be counted towards you, even if you do not put a frying pan on the head of some idiot and ignoramus
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  There is no violence in Islam

                  Maybe so
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Islam FORCES to protect your home, country, honor, in any way! Protect!!!!

                  You contradict yourself. there is no violence and constitutes (among other things, a way of violence) I would prefer if the word was used - recommends.
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  For example, a priest, ur-od who burned a book of the Koran, he does not know that God is one for all

                  there are different priests. like teachers, doctors and even taxi drivers.
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  Why do we respect their religion and ours not?

                  Excuse me, eye? Are we the whole Islamic world? Are they all the rest of humanity?
                  Have you interviewed everyone from one side and the other? I respect Islam, and I know quite a few Muslims who hate Jews and Judaism (respectively) Now there is a problem. Be simpler, answer for yourself.
                  1. Ataturk
                    Ataturk 14 September 2012 23: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Karish
                    You contradict yourself. no violence and makes


                    Protect this violence?

                    Quote: Karish
                    there are different priests. like teachers, doctors and even taxi drivers.


                    I agree!

                    Quote: Karish
                    Be simpler, answer for yourself.

                    I am always responsible for myself.
        4. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 15: 14
          +3
          Ataturk
          They don’t say anything bad, they simply deny the right of other religions to exist and demand the transformation of the whole World into Dar-um-Islam.
          What about dying? We were taught that the best option in battle is when the strangers die for their cause, and we continue to live, fight and win for our own. A different apparently approach to training personnel.
        5. amikan
          amikan 15 September 2012 13: 20
          +1
          What is going on with the brains of specific performers is unclear. And if they are paid money, they are grimacing (like our russi). And those who pay are people without conscience and other qualities unnecessary for them. They need to rekindle and warm their hands on this.
          They have cold brains and a complete lack of human qualities.
        6. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 15 September 2012 21: 07
          +4
          So the question is, you bastards, about Jesus or Moyaysey at least 1 Muslim said something bad or showed? When they are both one of the revered people in Islam.

          Dear Sir, it would be nice to talk about this with the Serbs .......
          About how in Chechnya they cut heads to the guys who did not remove the cross .... I will not even say ....
      2. amikan
        amikan 15 September 2012 13: 15
        +2
        For our "intelligentsia" the main enemy (at the behest from the USA) is Orthodoxy
  3. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 14 September 2012 09: 08
    +10
    They fought for sho and ran into it. As in the proverb ... do not dig a hole for another, you yourself will fall into it, So the mattress makers got in the face from their "children of democracy". Little was given. Their whole "Arab spring" will come back to haunt them now
    This is a signal for this damn doll called a clintonsha (you would not forget to hit a mackeynuk). Although ... it may be a sacred sacrifice. Everything can be ....
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 14 September 2012 10: 00
      +4
      Horseradish from amers trainers. They thought the beast / al-Qaeda / tamed, and sometimes he bites his lactating hand.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 14 September 2012 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: Pilot200809
      They fought for something and ran into it.

      All right, katuzі on merit.
  4. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 14 September 2012 09: 13
    +12
    Religious provocations never succeeded, even if Shiites and Sunnis fight among themselves, any attacks on Islam lead to their unification, and since Muslims are now almost everywhere, the white furry animal will drive Americans around the world for a long time .
    1. mongoose
      mongoose 14 September 2012 09: 18
      -10
      Yeah, if you don’t accidentally drop megatons on a bomb to Mecca with Medina, each 400 wink
      1. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 14 September 2012 09: 36
        +17
        Quote: mongoose
        if to Mecca with Medina


        But this will be the biggest - and the last stupidity, in Mecca there are not many people and 400 megatons will serve as a wick of world war.
        Islam - one of the three world religions. Muslim communities exist in more than 120 countries and unite, according to various sources, from 1,2 to 1,5 billion people. In 35 countries, the majority of the population is Muslim, and in 29 countries the followers of Islam are powerful minorities. In 28 countries, Islam is recognized as the state or official religion [37]. Only 18% of Muslims live in Arab countries. Islam is the second largest religion in the world (after Christianity). - We will get a religious war in comparison with which the 3rd world babble!
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 14 September 2012 09: 38
        +14
        mongoose, I still thought you were wiser
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 14 September 2012 09: 48
          +6
          mongoose
          four hundred can not stand the planet. when testing two mega on a new earth, the wave circled the earth twice. The cameras were spotting in the basements, although they knew that they were just trials
          1. Denzel13
            Denzel13 14 September 2012 11: 24
            +2
            According to various sources, the most powerful hydrogen bomb had from 57 to 58,6 megatons of TNT equivalent.
            1. Alexss
              Alexss 14 September 2012 12: 11
              +1
              according to the data that are in the public domain, the most powerful tested is 57-60 megatons, although theoretical calculations before the test showed only 10 megatons. The most powerful created (according to theoretical calculations) 70 megatons of tests were abandoned due to the unpredictability of practical results
            2. elenasvetlova
              elenasvetlova 14 September 2012 15: 53
              +3
              impressive
          2. Karish
            Karish 14 September 2012 22: 38
            0
            [quote = andrei332809] mongoose
            four hundred can not stand the planet. when testing two mega on a new earth, the wave circled the earth twice. The cameras were spotting in the basements, although they knew that they were just trials [/ quote
            They tested a 50 mgt bomb (half of its full power. And 400 he wrote, this is simply the largest number he knows. laughing ]
        2. Karish
          Karish 14 September 2012 22: 36
          0
          Quote: vorobey
          mongoose, I still thought you were wiser

          He just ate the snake, it is buggy. He’ll leave tomorrow. (I don’t know where), maybe it would be better to let me write?
  5. Apollo
    Apollo 14 September 2012 09: 13
    +14
    In this whole story, I am alarmed by one fact, we are talking about 11 of September.
    In both cases, the same dateThis is an attack on the twin towers and the assassination of the US ambassador in Benghazi. What is a simple coincidence or something else ?!
    I am absolutely convinced of one thing, it seems that al-Qaeda and candidate Romney are acting in the same team. As for Obama, his position has seriously shaken! In such cases they say -Hit below the belt.IMHO
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 09: 28
      +7
      Quote: Apollon
      In both cases, the same date: the attack on the twin towers and the assassination of the US ambassador to Benghazi.

      Apollo, USA again untying its hands, a victim of other people's political games in the photograph. More will come next.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 14 September 2012 09: 54
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        More will come next.


        and this is just the beginning, in my opinion.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 10: 07
          +5
          Quote: Apollon
          and this is just the beginning, in my opinion

          Moreover, it was predictable and more than once many spoke about such consequences on the site.
        2. Aleks28
          Aleks28 14 September 2012 10: 09
          -3
          Quote: Apollon
          and this is just the beginning, in my opinion.
          I left you my number, call Sherlock.
      2. Grenader
        Grenader 14 September 2012 09: 56
        +9
        That’s for sure, it’s unlikely that the United States did not calculate the reaction of Muslim countries to this film masterpiece, given the recent own experience and the experience of other states (burning of the Koran, mockery of corpses, caricatures of Mohamed). It was precisely this development of events that they expected. Soon we will find out why they did it.
      3. bamboo
        bamboo 14 September 2012 12: 12
        +1
        I agree with you !!!
        only now they have chosen a different way !!!
        although not new at all, but half-forgotten !!! sad
      4. Karish
        Karish 14 September 2012 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Apollo, USA again untying its hands, a victim of other people's political games in the photograph. More will come next.

        I do not think Obama is capable of this. In this regard, he is impotent with a microscopic scrotum. wassat
    2. Ares1
      Ares1 14 September 2012 10: 15
      +5
      Of course, not by chance. Let me remind you - September 11.09th, the Beheading of the Head of John the Baptist. Since the visible part of the world is the wrong side of the invisible world, they, being smart people (albeit our enemies), rely on the mystical knowledge and experience of their master. And the owner is 10 years old ...
      1. Karish
        Karish 14 September 2012 22: 42
        0
        Quote: Ares1
        And the owner is 10 years old.

        And his name is LEGION am
  6. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 14 September 2012 09: 16
    +8
    If this is an accident, then amers began to "shovel" in full from fate For what they had done. But most likely this is the victim of an officer in the party for the White House.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 14 September 2012 09: 34
      +7
      Any sober-minded person understands that the events of recent months are not accidental. September 11, the action in the Temple of Christ, Europe, Turkey thought about whether it is worth poking around in Syria. Arab world powder keg. A thread goes up and down. The Americans thought they were puppeteers, and there it turned out.
      1. vladimir64ss
        vladimir64ss 14 September 2012 09: 42
        +7
        Quote: Bort Radist
        A thread goes up and down

        Gaddafi and got out and took revenge from there? Handsomely.
      2. elenasvetlova
        elenasvetlova 14 September 2012 16: 08
        +1
        a boomerang will fly to their head ..... and then the world will become calmer for a while
    2. Director
      Director 14 September 2012 09: 47
      +6
      I agree with you. the Americans wouldn’t just feed the ambassador.
      1. Karish
        Karish 14 September 2012 22: 48
        +1
        Quote: director
        I agree with you. the Americans wouldn’t just feed the ambassador.

        Iraqi citizens living near the British military base in Basra have accused the military of using terrible biological weapons against the local population - huge bear-like cannibalistic badgers, reports the Daily Telegraph

        In Iraq - there was a test, and in Libya they used it, but the program was buggy. Here they are beasts
  7. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 14 September 2012 09: 22
    +7
    God - not fraer - marks the huck!
    I experienced the deepest satisfaction from what happened! Finally the boomerang is back! Now, even in Egypt, the amers will be cut, or where else will they begin to be terribly surprised at why so !? In short, we are waiting for the continuation!
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 September 2012 09: 26
    +1
    everything is back to square one. what they fought for ..
    I have already stopped feeling sorry for amers.
    1. Imyaierogliff
      Imyaierogliff 14 September 2012 10: 22
      +6
      The most filthy and regrettable that the American people themselves are in a deep harlot !!!
      1. elenasvetlova
        elenasvetlova 14 September 2012 16: 10
        +1
        now they are gradually coming out of this stupor, but of course they are constantly stuffed with new batches of prodigal articles
  9. Trailer
    Trailer 14 September 2012 09: 27
    +27
    How funny this photo reminds me of a photo of another man whose death from bearded terrorists was approved a year ago by Chris Stevenson. I wonder if he thought that he would end his life from a similar angle! Deja vu however!
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 14 September 2012 10: 02
      +5
      The script has been worked out - they’re not dragging the first one ...
      Only before the hands of the Americans did not reach ...
    2. vezunchik
      vezunchik 14 September 2012 10: 31
      +7
      Sow the wind - reap the storm! Colonel avenging himself !!
    3. sergskak
      sergskak 14 September 2012 10: 53
      +8
      Trailer, Good photo. Once again, MMSs are sending clintonshe. Here would be to see her reaction, her next Wow.
      1. Trailer
        Trailer 14 September 2012 11: 01
        +5
        The most fun was to see him like that! God forgive me! Rest in peace! And Libya - democracy!
      2. cool.ya-nikola
        cool.ya-nikola 18 September 2012 15: 53
        0
        On this photo, in theory, she will say: "OOPS!"
    4. Bismark
      Bismark 14 September 2012 14: 52
      +1
      Vendetta in Libyan.
    5. expert2008
      expert2008 14 September 2012 16: 42
      +4
      Probably now there are those who declare me bloodthirsty and naminusut, but in my opinion there is not enough third photo here - a photo of Gila Clitors in a similar perspective. She just deserved it! Negative ...
      1. sergskak
        sergskak 14 September 2012 22: 40
        0
        Quote: axpert2008
        the third photo is missing - photo by Hiloy Clitors
        Not far off, you will see soon.
  10. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 14 September 2012 09: 28
    +5
    “Apparently, the American political elites, who started the machine of regional revolutions, did not know very well how such revolutions usually end. If they sat down at least at school textbooks on the history of world revolutions, they would see that very often the revolution tends to grind not only those against whom it was organized, but then those who organized it. " They all knew very well and perfectly understand what they were doing ... they bring radical Islamists to power, destroying the pillars of stability ... they need an enemy and a large, long-term hotbed of instability, stimulate the economy ... their leading economists said this ... I would not be surprised if and the assassination of this ambassador is a planned action ... their Republican elections are lagging behind ...
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 14 September 2012 10: 32
      +1
      so half of the population is completely illiterate!
  11. vorobey
    vorobey 14 September 2012 09: 31
    +6
    You guys do not even start srach here. be wiser.
  12. JonnyT
    JonnyT 14 September 2012 09: 33
    +11
    All this was done by specialists from the USA. Their goal is to destabilize the region and the Muslim world as a whole. The basic idea is to start a religious war! Over the ocean they will not swim to cut the infidels, but will go to the borders of Russia !!! Yes, it is against Russia. After all, we have a lot of religious country. Quarreling us to plunge into a civil war on the basis of religion is their goal! An example of the action of rabid slut very clearly showed how the society reacts to regilious provocations, the United States picked up this idea. I think in the future we should expect something similar with other religions! The ambassador’s life is nothing compared to the chaos and terror in Russia and at its borders!
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 14 September 2012 10: 33
      +4
      70% of Arabs in France, half of the population in Germany, and a sufficient number in the states ... So ...
      1. Heinrich ruppert
        Heinrich ruppert 14 September 2012 10: 51
        +4
        Good morning friends!
        Quote: vezunchik
        70% of Arabs in France, half of the population in Germany

        Here I do not agree with you. In France, I am often 25% saglosen but not 70%.
        In Germany, somewhere 3,5 million muslims at 80 mil. population.

        I do not understand religions. But today is Friday and the muslimman has some important prayer. So after a sacred prayer it can burn.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 11: 02
          +5
          Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
          I do not understand religions. But today is Friday and the muslimman has some important prayer.

          Hi Henry, yes it’s Friday and after evening prayer in Egypt, the American embassy will begin to crackle. And the fact that in France is only 25%, but they are much more united than the remaining 75% and this is a big advantage.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 14 September 2012 11: 22
            +6
            hi guys. Henry does not seem to be with you, unless artificially. Germany managed not to get into this adventure. So now look will manifest as a litmus. If you hesitate then this is a planned action to persuade Germany to take action. Do not go to the grandmother!

            But you can’t. you need to feed the Greeks, save Europe. Soros heard you already puts forward ultimatums.
            1. Heinrich ruppert
              Heinrich ruppert 14 September 2012 12: 12
              +3
              Yes, the guys agree with you entirely. While here it’s quiet, the security of the American Embassy in Berlin was strengthened yesterday, workers with fear fell out of work for three or four hours. But as reporters said in vain, everything is calm.
              It seems to me that it will be pretty calm. There are also Salafists, but somehow everything happens within the framework. You are right artificially can do but it will be Turks and Kurds. Yesterday was pretty quiet in Cologne. Germany has a good intelligence technique, they are trying to do it at the borders to "eavesdrop". About two months ago, one boat and the Syrian coast was eavesdropping on could "hover" 600 km into the depths. So there was such a high wai that the guard was raised.
              Yes, now again they will go to the grandmother. On Wednesday, the constitutional court allowed. Only the former finance minister said "the declared amount has always increased several times."
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 12: 27
                +3
                Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                Yes, now again the grandmother will go to them.

                Henry, but to feed terrorism itself is idiocy. The first will receive France 100%, then more.
                1. Heinrich ruppert
                  Heinrich ruppert 14 September 2012 14: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Henry, but to feed terrorism itself is idiocy. The first will receive France 100%, then more.

                  Sasha, everything is absolutely true. When I get the impression that there are no French. There are a lot of blacks on the streets, they don’t want to work. they do not want to learn the language; they are going to sell drugs in groups. Money in everyone’s pocket is not more than the size of the monthly allowance, but what kind of cars do you need to pay for insurance and tax, all the annual allowance for this is neither eat nor drink and sleep under the bridge over the Seine.

                  Only I made a mistake in my post, did not write Greece. I addressed this to Sasha Sparrow. "save Getia."
                  I beg your pardon.
    2. Bekzat
      Bekzat 14 September 2012 11: 38
      +5
      For JonnyT№
      You are right, I dare to continue your thought by the fact that the amers planned all this for a long time, perhaps even after the collapse of the USSR, when border conflicts between countries began. The plan for the collapse and collapse of the USSR worked, but to the surprise of the arrogant Saxons, Russia survived and retained the Army and Navy, and then a new plan was born for the destruction of Russia, namely the destruction, but how to achieve this? With the help of religious clashes. And how to get to the border areas? With the help of Islamic radicals. That's how the two Chechen wars got, and the instability in the Caucasus, now the arrogant Saxons have looked at Tatarstan too.
      In general, you need to take a moment and show the whole world what results the foreign policy of the arrogant Saxons gives.
      This is the first call to their door, if they do not understand this, then ... perhaps the whole world will blaze.
  13. Owl
    Owl 14 September 2012 09: 38
    +4
    It has become a tradition among the "bestial" Libyan Islamic radicals to arrange "photo sessions" with the bodies of the dead and dying. With the help of NATO Special Forces, they took pictures with M. Gaddafi still alive, now they are posing with the body of the US Ambassador. American "democratizers", in order to achieve their national goals, began to "feed and direct" Al-Qaeda and Muslim extremists. The Americans have achieved their goals, or continue to act to achieve them, they hope that their Islamic terrorism will not achieve, but Al-Qaeda and Muslim extremists have enough strength to organize and carry out a major terrorist act in the United States, this will also be beneficial State Department, because under the guise of "fighting terrorism", it will be possible, as 11 years ago, to justify aggression against Syria, Iran or any other designated "friend of terrorists".
  14. amikan
    amikan 14 September 2012 09: 39
    +6
    I get the feeling that Uncle Sam deliberately went to this, supporting and sponsoring the Jewish provocateurs in order to spit in the souls of Muslim believers.
    Only now has he brewed and insisted this porridge, he will sip along with his younger brothers from Europe to the end of his days, amen.
    And I absolutely do not mind them.
    I listened yesterday to Shevchenko’s speech on the Echo of Tel Aviv (Echo of Moscow) that the ambassador was driving to some sort of safe house, from where he was carried out and taken by the hand ...
    Bitches Amer.
  15. wolverine7778
    wolverine7778 14 September 2012 09: 40
    0
    Nakula Basley Nakula is to blame for everything, I hope Muslims get to this scum)))
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 14 September 2012 09: 56
      +4
      Quote: wolverine7778
      Nakula Basley Nakula is to blame for everything, I hope Muslims get to this scum)))


      do not get it already guarded.! IMHO
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 14 September 2012 10: 02
        -2
        Quote: Apollon
        do not get it already guarded.! IMHO
        Why don’t you call mega?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 20
          +3
          Quote: Allex28
          Why don’t you call mega?
          Do you need to get a call ??
          Alone?
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 14 September 2012 12: 24
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Do you need to get a call ??
            Alone?
            He threatened me in PM yesterday, I left him my phone number and offered to meet (he also lives in Germany), so that this does not constitute any problem.
            1. spender
              spender 14 September 2012 12: 29
              +5
              Quote: Allex28
              , I left him my phone number and offered to meet (he also lives in Germany)

              One is bored with rolling bearings, the two of course are more fun .. Again, in the old Audi you can drive one pushes, the other drives, then the change ... Right Disney Land laughing
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 14 September 2012 12: 35
                +1
                Quote: spender
                One is bored with rolling bearings, it’s certainly more fun together .. Again, in the old Audi you can drive one pushes, the other drives, then the change ... Right Disney Land is some kind of laughing
                And Apollo said that you are his friend, and you laugh at him, you have a strange friendship. And about Audi I definitely noticed Audi
                1. spender
                  spender 14 September 2012 12: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Allex28
                  And about Audi I definitely noticed Audi

                  I know, however, others are also in the know. Well, friendship with Apollo has nothing to do with it. He is an adult and has the right to decide for himself what to do ... What have I to do with it? request
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 39
              +5
              aah !!!
              and what are you going to fight?))))))))
              to teach a lesson?))))))))
              So all our residency fail))) kill each other)))))))))
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 14 September 2012 12: 48
                -2
                Quote: Yarbay
                aah !!!
                and what are you going to fight?))))))))
                to teach a lesson?))))))))
                So all our residency fail))) kill each other)))))))))

                But I don’t laugh.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 59
                  +5
                  Quote: Allex28
                  But I don’t laugh.

                  You are an adult!
                  Exercise exposure!
                  Relax, maybe someday he’ll call, invite you to a glass of cold misted vodka!))
            3. vorobey
              vorobey 14 September 2012 12: 47
              +7
              Quote: Allex28
              He threatened me in PM yesterday, I left him my phone number and offered to meet (he also lives in Germany), so that this does not constitute any problem.


              you have nowhere to put energy in you men, and who will save Greece? I AM?
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 14 September 2012 12: 54
                -4
                Quote: vorobey
                you have nowhere to put energy in you men, and who will save Greece? I AM?

                Go to the forum road spoon for dinner, something to diminish, especially the Apollo pearl with Sherlock’s revelations, and I just didn’t see it in childhood.
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 14 September 2012 13: 38
                  +3
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Go to the forum road spoon for dinner, something to diminish, especially the Apollo pearl with Sherlock’s revelations, and I just didn’t see it in childhood.


                  change the avatar do not disgrace Isaev, Watson!
                  1. Aleks28
                    Aleks28 14 September 2012 14: 10
                    -1
                    Quote: Apollon
                    change the avatar do not disgrace Isaev, Watson!
                    Notice I didn’t start. And you Apollo just to face.
                    1. spender
                      spender 14 September 2012 14: 12
                      +1
                      Quote: Allex28
                      Notice I did not start.

                      I join Apollo’s wish and suggest changing the ava clone to Donkey Eeyore, for harmony wink
                      1. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 14 September 2012 14: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: spender
                        I join Apollo’s wish and suggest changing the ava clone to Donkey Eeyore, for harmony
                        the proposal was accepted. I didn’t find a suitable donkey (unless I put your photo) let it be like Oleg’s
                      2. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 14 September 2012 18: 31
                        -4
                        You shouldn’t have contacted these feline worms in vain, there’s no sense from them either to the site or visitors, now you’ll go along my path sadly winked On the site of the men there was no more pissing to contact with them, they frightened everyone, even the coolest. Here and bend their own. am
                        And this proskladskladspetsnazovets yesterday finally drove with exposures laughing Fucking Kamisar Cat Riding fool by the way I have his photo yes

                        Izya shalam! Yes, I’m in the bastard to watch how, without exception, everyone tremble before these feline worms bully .

                        Alex28 is generally not at work, but they take it for me and spread rot am
                      3. Izzy
                        Izzy 14 September 2012 18: 37
                        -5
                        Oleg brother, I beg you to leave these kazazlov alone. They still rake their full.
                      4. Izzy
                        Izzy 14 September 2012 19: 16
                        -5
                        yes spit on all you need it? rescue drowning hands of the drowning themselves throw, to whom you want to prove something?
                      5. Evil Tatar
                        Evil Tatar 14 September 2012 21: 10
                        -2
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        In vain you contacted these feline worms, there is no sense in them either to the site or visitors, now you will go my way sadly On the site of men there was no more pissing to contact them, they frightened everyone, even the coolest.

                        Stop declaring so categorically ...
                        I and Apollo formed a temporary neutrality ...
                        But I keep an eye on its development ...
                        If it will be really hard and to the point, then invite for debriefing ...

                        After all, we are not pissing with Trezorka at the border,
                        Tresor does not sleep and I do not piss ...))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
              2. Odessa
                Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 55
                +3
                vorobey,
                you have nowhere to put energy in you men, and who will save Greece? I AM?

                Sparrows, of course you! No one but you! Not everyone has blades!
          2. Odessa
            Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 26
            +6
            Yarbay,
            Do you need to get a call ??
            Alone?

            Alibek’s subtle humor))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))
            ))))))) +++++++!
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 41
              +5
              hi esther !!
              The world is restless)))))))
              1. Odessa
                Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 46
                +2
                Yarbay,
                hi esther !!
                The world is restless)))))))

                And why do you need to exchange phone numbers? laughing
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 49
                  +4
                  Quote: Odessa
                  And why do you need to exchange phone numbers?
                  I know what I’ve thought about, remember the shots from the movie about Shtirlitsa, he bakes potatoes in the fireplace there, sings vodka, and here Apollo would be useful)))))))))))))
                  1. Odessa
                    Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 53
                    +1
                    Yarbay,
                    I know what I’ve thought about, remember the shots from the movie about Shtirlitsa, he bakes potatoes in the fireplace there, sings vodka, and here Apollo would be useful)))))))))))))

                    I like the joke more.
                    Cigarette butts in flowers, socks on a chandelier. There is an unfinished bottle of vodka on the table. So proudly alone, Stirlitz celebrated on February 23rd.
                  2. Apollo
                    Apollo 14 September 2012 13: 34
                    +3
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I know what I’ve thought about, remember the shots from the movie about Shtirlitsa, he bakes potatoes in the fireplace there, sings vodka, and here Apollo would be useful)))))))))))))


                    I'm Alibek here, what is needed, as for both Alex and me, he understood me well, therefore they spoke without an interpreter. Aufiderzeen Allex28.
                    1. Aleks28
                      Aleks28 14 September 2012 13: 40
                      -4
                      Quote: Apollon
                      Aufiderzeen Allex28.
                      Yeah, admittedly.
                      1. Apollo
                        Apollo 14 September 2012 13: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Yeah all the same admitted


                        You tell the girls whether they recognize you or not. bullyWe drove through!
                      2. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 14 September 2012 13: 51
                        -3
                        Quote: Apollon
                        You tell the girls whether they recognize you or not. bully
                        They certainly do not recognize you laughing hi
                      3. Apollo
                        Apollo 14 September 2012 13: 55
                        +4
                        Quote: Allex28
                        They certainly do not recognize you
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 50
                      +2
                      Quote: Apollon
                      I'm Alibek here, what is needed, as for both Alex and me, he understood me well, therefore they spoke without an interpreter. Aufiderzeen Allex28.
                      I hope you understand each other!
                      And you are older than me you know better !!
                      with respect!!
                2. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 14 September 2012 12: 51
                  -1
                  Quote: Odessa
                  And why do you need to exchange phone numbers? laughing
                  nothing funny when cats you idiots accuse you of all mortal sins, thank God I don’t imagine how many people would die because of it.
                  1. spender
                    spender 14 September 2012 12: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: Allex28
                    cats are idiots accused of all mortal sins, thank God I’m not the 37th I can imagine how many people would die because of him.

                    I do not care Vinka, how do you climb into the victims of Stalinist repressions ... wassat
                    Created a clone
                    Rubbed in trust
                    Was exposed

                    Everything to the wall !!! Sawdust for processing, skin for auction, shit for fertilizer !!! laughing
                    1. Aleks28
                      Aleks28 14 September 2012 13: 02
                      -2
                      Quote: spender
                      Everything to the wall !!! Sawdust for recycling, skin for auction, shit for fertilizer !!

                      Tongue on hold, yap.
                      1. spender
                        spender 14 September 2012 13: 05
                        +7
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Hold the tongueyap.

                        I find out, old Vinka, the little words break through ... wink
                        No, urgently change the ava to Pastor Schlag, you just like he "slept" on Blumenstrasse laughing
                      2. Odessa
                        Odessa 14 September 2012 13: 09
                        +6
                        spender,
                        No, urgently change the ava to Pastor Schlag, you just like he "slept" on Blumenstrasse

                        Stierlitz heard the sound of a tree hitting against asphalt; this is Pasteur Slag was returning from Switzerland on skis.
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 09
                        +5
                        Quote: spender
                        No, urgently change the ava to Pastor Schlag, you just like he "slept" on Blumenstrasse
                        The main thing is to have time to put a flower pot at the window))))))) and then Pleischner will fail again)))))))
                    2. VAF
                      VAF 14 September 2012 13: 22
                      +6
                      Quote: spender
                      Everything to the wall !!! Sawdust for processing, skin for auction, shit for fertilizer !!!


                      Sanka me the same yesterday .. I was convinced ... more humane, di and Zhenya type ... the same .....

                      and I spoke and I say ..... only ODOB !!! +! angry And then ... no problems and sracha! wassat

                      1. spender
                        spender 14 September 2012 13: 25
                        +5
                        Quote: vaf
                        and I spoke and I say ..... only ODOB !!! +! And then ... no problems and sracha!

                        Serega, hello! drinks I have only just started to move away from your yesterday’s photo with drinks
                        And you already post new Armageddon wassat
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 01
                    +5
                    Quote: Allex28
                    nothing funny,

                    Ok we will be extremely serious !!
                    When meeting with Apollo, I will convey to him your discontent and the fact that the venue cannot be changed !!
                    Only everything is necessary according to the rules, seconds and all that!
                3. spender
                  spender 14 September 2012 12: 52
                  +5
                  Quote: Odessa
                  And why do you need to exchange phone numbers?

                  To make things even more uncomfortable in Germany ... Their state debt "goes off scale" for every German (newborns and old people are also counted) more than 24 euros each, so they need to "multiply" and not kill each friend winked
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 13: 23
                    +4
                    Quote: spender
                    than 24 euros each, so they need to "multiply"

                    Well, yes, and then we will again reduce the population. bully
    2. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 14 September 2012 10: 42
      +5
      He is a performer and, besides, he is nowhere worthless judging by the film, more important are those who are behind this provocation, those who ordered and financed this "film". They knew perfectly well what reaction would follow. A real information war is going on against ISLAM. Pay attention to the regularity of such attacks, sometimes cartoons, then fucking ... Terry Jones, now this "movie". The same war begins against ORTHODOXY.
  16. awg75
    awg75 14 September 2012 09: 44
    +2
    America has changed some kind of but power to complete chaos and anarchy in these unfortunate countries ..... very sad, I hope they someday find it - so much suffering for people
  17. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 14 September 2012 09: 45
    +7
    The Stars Stripes are adept at organizing color revolutions and overthrowing legitimate regimes. But with a miscalculation of the consequences, they were completely strained. Their absolute confidence in the ideality of the American version of democracy is letting them down. The mentality of the country, which was formed out of all razor-sized people, by historical standards, just yesterday, can in no way suit countries and peoples, whose history has been going on for centuries. Moreover, the Yankees are very inconsistent. And if they say in public the word "nigger" is even worse than we just matyugnutsya, that in relation to other nations and religions they allow such vysery that the consequences of not just being predskazuemye.I, beat these effects it is for them samim.Hotya , a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck, let them get what they deserve.
  18. Fost325
    Fost325 14 September 2012 09: 51
    +6
    Americans believe only in Santa Claus, therefore they allow themselves to play on the feelings of believers of different religions, so the scumbags have played out, now, as in that song, it is sung - "the holiday comes to them" !!!
  19. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 September 2012 09: 57
    +5
    And almost, exactly a year ago.


    QUESTION: (Can a faction struggle lead to failure at the fronts?)

    Mr. Stevens: No, because the multinational corporation does not rely on those militants who are unreliable. Those on whom he relies are very disciplined. This is the first. And the second thing is that the naughty units are just local militias, gathering from time to time to fight in their area. In general terms, they do not solve anything.

    QUESTION - (There is information that TNK troops themselves are grossly violating human rights. Is this right? How serious is this and how are revolutionaries fighting it?)

    Mr. Stevens: Yes, yes. I spoke with representatives of Human Rights Watch, who saw all this in different places, and they have very serious evidence. We spoke firmly with the leadership of TNK, and it was scared and worried. The leaders firmly stated that they intend to protect human rights, comply with international law and humane attitude to the enemy. They do not want to be thought of worse than Gaddafi and his soldiers. Now that they all know about various unfortunate facts, they will fight them.

    http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1368


    As there, Alla sings: - "Tolya will still be ......"
  20. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 14 September 2012 09: 59
    +6
    Yes, as it comes around, it responded! All this is wrong, of course, such chaos, but they themselves carefully raised these "democrats" - so eat to your health ...
  21. Yves762
    Yves762 14 September 2012 10: 05
    +2
    Everything is "according to plan": the more crap is going on in the BV, the cheaper (in the end) oil from there ... recourse
  22. Skavron
    Skavron 14 September 2012 10: 06
    +2
    World jihad? not?
  23. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 14 September 2012 10: 06
    +3
    WHAT TO VISIT, THEN TO REAP, THE LORD FORGOT FROM FAINTINTON, ABOUT SIMPLE TRUTS OR DO NOT KNOW THEM ...
  24. Alonso
    Alonso 14 September 2012 10: 06
    +8
    But Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin warned the Americans in particular and NATO in general that this is a dangerous practice, fomenting revolutions in the Arab states, this can lead to unpredictable and dire consequences. Now I think he can proudly declare: "I told you so!"
  25. Sergooff
    Sergooff 14 September 2012 10: 07
    +4
    And what do you think that all this is done with one goal in mind ... the destruction of all existing religions and the creation of one single?
    1. Bekzat
      Bekzat 14 September 2012 11: 45
      0
      for sergooff
      I think that, religion has nothing to do with it, arrogant Saxons, at least the ruling elite are atheists and atheists. And they pursue one goal: TO SAVE HIS HEMEMONY IN THE WORLD, STRENGTHEN THE INFLUENCE ON OTHER COUNTRIES, AND UNDERREST TO DESTROY, AND REMAIN IN THE END, THE ONLY MANAGING ALL AND OVER ALL PEOPLES !!!
  26. sined0707
    sined0707 14 September 2012 10: 31
    +2
    How do you say there ???
    congratulations !!! gentlemen s.
  27. The gentleman
    The gentleman 14 September 2012 10: 33
    +6
    interestingly it turns out all the same, first they gave democracy, and then they "got rid of" it. but still I can't believe that it happened so simply. Could the administration of the states, having killed one of its own, knock down all who are objectionable in Libya. I do not think that already there is no one who would not support Gaddafi. if there are such, then they must be finally destroyed, which means that hostilities can continue. apparently, it is beneficial for the Americans to turn the state of Libya into complete chaos ... it's a pity, but I would really like them all the same received a serious rebuff. and the author of the article plus
  28. strannik595
    strannik595 14 September 2012 10: 46
    0
    ukepecurrenolongl
  29. with
    with 14 September 2012 10: 49
    +7
    Anyway, the question remains open!
    Is this a planned US action or is it really a mess of the wobbling masses ??
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 14 September 2012 21: 01
      +1
      I think the first one. They could not help but calculate the consequences.
  30. anchonsha
    anchonsha 14 September 2012 10: 51
    +7
    It is a pity that so far it is quiet in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the hangers-on of the American "democracy", who have led the money aid to terror in Syria. If the same turmoil took place in these very democratic countries, then Syria would benefit from this. In general, Putin's words were confirmed - do not carry democracy on bayonets, it will be rejected.
  31. strannik595
    strannik595 14 September 2012 10: 54
    +11
    the main thing in this matter is still control ................. oh, golden-headed, forty-forty
    our seemingly quiet yet, the American consulates do not burn
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 14 September 2012 11: 21
      +7
      great photo, we also have it, when Easter, the police keep order and thank God, everything is quiet and peaceful. Islam itself has become a symbol of something terrible, scary. and if you read the Qur'an, it’s a very peaceful religion that does not call for violence. but thanks to the powerful information flow, Muslims became afraid. And the Muslims themselves can be understood, their feelings are hurt. I apologize for the incorrect comparison, but this is similar to when a girl abandons you and you become aggressive. And plus, we should not forget about the influence Islam in a particular region
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 14 September 2012 12: 53
        +8
        Quote: Gentleman
        when a girl throws you and you become aggressive


        Brother, take a word. if the girl left you it is still unknown who was lucky.

        Quote: Gentleman
        and if you read the Qur'an

        This is if you can read and think. Just like the Bible. They only interpret how they benefit from both. Sincerely.
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman 14 September 2012 14: 07
          +3
          I agree, depending on who is lucky)))) but as regards reading, the classic version of the Quran and the Bible are all so aimed at good
      2. skullcap
        skullcap 14 September 2012 13: 21
        +2
        They asked Kozma Prutkov; "Which is more important - the sun or the moon?"
        He replied: "Of course, the Moon. Because the Sun shines during the day, when it is already light, and the Moon is at night."
        Then he thought and added: "However, the Sun not only shines, but also warms."
        This is me to the fact that we must respect the beliefs of all nations, but soberly evaluate them.
        And the fact that Koranic Islam ended somewhere in the 10 century, and real historical Islam is very different from it. Unfortunately, there are plenty of examples in our life.
  32. lm_
    lm_ 14 September 2012 11: 09
    +1
    If the action is planned very carefully, it means that the organizers planned something dark!
    1. Forget
      Forget 14 September 2012 14: 50
      0
      Quote: lm_
      If the action is planned very carefully, it means that the organizers planned something dark!

      Yes, now there is a reason to send troops, two destroyers have already arrived. The United States needs war, it is in debt.
  33. Green
    Green 14 September 2012 11: 18
    +1
    These actions were predictable.
    Or, which is also possible, all of this was predicted and conceived.
    For what ? We will understand a little later ...
    It is not that simple.
  34. Manager
    Manager 14 September 2012 11: 28
    +8
    I recalled a comment by an American patriot on this site.
    He then said that let anyone try to break into the US Embassy in any country. They say their marines will kill all supermen. And who would dare to do this?
    Here is an unreserved USA patriot and the answer to your question.
    1. Green
      Green 14 September 2012 11: 31
      +6
      Quote: Manager
      Like their marines, supermen will kill everyone.


      If someone needs it, then no "supermen" will save.
      Will rush in and bend in full and "supermen" and those whom they will try to protect !!!!
      1. Denzel13
        Denzel13 14 September 2012 11: 54
        +4
        That’s for sure, there would be a desire to tear their guard to pieces.
      2. подводник
        подводник 14 September 2012 12: 02
        +4
        I'm more than sure that they are supermen ONLY in Hollywood
    2. sined0707
      sined0707 14 September 2012 13: 47
      0
      100500%, it was such a pity it will be hard to find
      1. Manager
        Manager 14 September 2012 17: 38
        0
        I will find !!! A minute!
  35. vastorg
    vastorg 14 September 2012 11: 36
    +1
    Nothing can be done. The costs and risks of working with animals sometimes break out of their cells and cripple trainers and owners.
  36. Ataturk
    Ataturk 14 September 2012 11: 46
    +14
    I appeal to all Jews.

    With all due respect, not very good things are being done on your behalf.
    I urge you, personally you, to begin to oppose such actions.
    On your behalf, they begin to stir up water, and then there will be HOLOCAUST number 2, but who is to blame? I don’t know why Hitler killed a Jew, various fables tell, but seeing what is happening today, I’ll tell you on your behalf, they are leading a massacre, they are doing everything to make everyone, including Christians, hate you.
    As a result, HISTORY WILL BE REPEATED again with the Holocaust. Every time I look for an excuse for the actions of Jews in Palestine, but I see what other Jews do, this is not good.

    I, as a person, ask everyone to understand that, a certain bunch of scum, poison peoples against each other. We are called animals, but the question is, who is the beast more, the one who tears the QURAN in the toilet or the one who avenges his faith?
    Who is more scum, the one who provokes or the one who defends his rights?

    But everyone knows how Muslims are painful towards the faith, so why poke there?

    Here is the first scum of the Dutchman



    Who made a film that offends Muslims. On the body of the fallen woman, the Qur'anic suras were written.

    So who is the beast?
    1. with
      with 14 September 2012 12: 19
      +3
      Ataturk, good afternoon.

      Quote: Ataturk
      With all due respect, not very good things are being done on your behalf.
      I urge you, personally you, to begin to oppose such actions.

      Look what a 10 year old boy says.

      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 34
        +5
        Quote: met
        Look what a 10 year old boy says.

        HELLO MET.
        Thank you for the video. The Qur'an says that Christians and Muslims will unite to start a war against the Jews. The boy is telling the truth.

        As I said above, the Holocaust is number 2. I know many Jews, commoners and pretty good people, but it will be a pity that because of a bunch of scum Zionists, they will suffer. I said this, it is necessary for them, the people of Israel, to rebel over the fact that this scum says that I am a JEWISH.
        1. with
          with 14 September 2012 12: 55
          +8
          Quote: Ataturk
          As I said above, the Holocaust is number 2. I know many Jews, commoners and pretty good people, but it will be a pity that because of a bunch of scum Zionists, they will suffer.


          Ataturk, I already wrote, but I repeat to you separately, there are Jews, and there are Jews (I do not insult the Jewish nation in any way)

          Not every Jew who is a Jew or Jew

          Then paradise will come when the Jews will not.
          (Prophecy of the wise)


          Gumilev called this type of "people" subpassionaries, their philosophy is "look for where it is better", "be always on the side of the strong." Or "after us - even a flood." The main thing for the suba is his selfish desires, his passion for material goods, satiety and money. They become for him not a means, but a goal of life. For their sake, he will betray and sell everyone - a comrade, his homeland, his own mother. Subpassionaries give birth to traitors, many gangsters and mafiosi, deserters from the battlefield. They are cowardly and submissive to strong authorities. But as soon as she weakens, they turn into cruel beasts. This is human waste. Regardless of education, religion and origin. A party card sub can be a democrat or a communist, a liberal or a conservative, easily changing his color.

          .
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 02
            0
            Quote: met
            there are Jews, and there are Jews (

            You wrote to me and I categorically disagreed with you)))))))))))
            1. Ataturk
              Ataturk 14 September 2012 13: 10
              0
              Quote: Yarbay
              You wrote to me and I categorically disagreed with you)))))))))))

              Dear brother, I have watched more than once a video where real Jews protested against the Zionists. They rallied in the United States, for the Palestinians. They shouted ... Palestinians are not our enemies, we are not their enemies. My mother (Jewish words) said that she was nursed by the Palestinians, we borrowed money from each other. We lived together.

              And the Jews or who, I call them Zionists, are not Jews but barbarians. Animals cannot have faith and religion.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 17
                +2
                I will repeat for you my dear Omar!
                If the word Jew would be used not only in relation to * bad * Jews, then I would agree with you and with Met !!
                And so I consider this word to be Nazi!
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 19: 13
                +1
                Ataturk
                Hmm. For rams descending from the city of Word Jew entrenched in the Western Slavic languages ​​for the name of the Jewish people, this is a transcription modification of the word yude , which in the Germanic languages ​​means Jews, in turn, is a transcriptional modification of the Hebrew word yehudiwhich the Hebrew Jews call themselves. This word has a derogatory meaning in Eastern European languages, but again to refer to all Jews, without dividing them into good and bad.
                A Zionist is any Jew who lives in Israel and believes that all the Jews of the world should live there. The main goal of Zionism is to gather the Jewish people.
                All this is widely known and only the laziness of the mind prevents some gentlemen from reading these facts on the Internet.
                1. Ataturk
                  Ataturk 14 September 2012 20: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  Any Jew is a Zionist

                  Are you sure? And who else do you call coming down from the mountains ????
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 21: 25
                    +2
                    Anyone living in Israel for this is the meaning of Zionism, to collect all Jews in the land of Zion.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 20: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  Hmm. For rams descended from the mountains.

                  Well, your expressions from the sheep have not gone far !!
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 21: 23
                    +2
                    Well, what do you think I should respond to a discussion like: the Jews bastards, and the Jews can still be tolerated. Perhaps I am not a correct Jew, but due to the fact that since childhood I was very large and physically strong (after all, a descendant of Astrakhan bindyuzhniks), I was not used to rubbing rudeness towards myself and the address of my loved ones. Age, of course, rolled the "sivka on steep hills" and if you look at the whole topic from the first message, you will see that your fellow countryman is rude endlessly, and I held back.
                    For you personally, I’ll say that the husband of my cousin Aktai, who lives on the next street, tells your friend Jewwould tear out the tongue. Well, you understand me. Hello hello, Maiden Tower. Amazing place! drinks
                    1. Ataturk
                      Ataturk 14 September 2012 21: 43
                      +1
                      Quote: Aron Zaavi
                      Well, what do you think I should respond to a discussion like: Jews are bastards, but Jews can still be tolerated.


                      And who wrote this?
                      1. Aaron Zawi
                        Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 22: 20
                        +1
                        You reread all your posts in the discussion of this article. Even if my brakes were smoke-filled and I was frankly rude, it means that you have taken the stick.
                    2. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 21: 44
                      +2
                      As I understand it now, the word train on the forum will automatically be foamed into the word Jew. It is right good ! He will remove a bunch of conflicts.
                    3. Kamilla
                      Kamilla 14 September 2012 22: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Aron Zaavi
                      You look at the whole topic from the first message, you will see that your fellow countryman was rude indefinitely, and I restrained myself.


                      dear ... where did you see rudeness? Who called Jews reptiles? we are talking about one person who made a film ... and a bunch of people who support it .... but how do you call people rams ... is that normal in your opinion?


                      Quote: Aron Zaavi
                      Anyone living in Israel for this is the meaning of Zionism, to gather all the Jews in the land of Zion.


                      well, I suppose, I didn't know that either ... and? call me a sheep? ... thanks for enlightening ...


                      Quote: Aron Zaavi
                      For you personally, I’ll say that the husband of my cousin Aktai, who lives on the next street, would snatch your tongue out to your friend, a Jew.


                      well, I don’t know .. who would rip something out .... he will have to ... oh how many, to tear out on the site ...! and I dare to draw your attention, dear, that it is my compatriots, on this site, who constantly protect against attacks, and the state of Israel ... and respected, personally by me, Israelis, and all Jews .. (did I put it right?). ..so don't ...

                      Quote: Aron Zaavi
                      Hello hello, Maiden Tower. Amazing place



                      here, I completely agree with you ... the place is really amazing ... like our whole city! good

                      Sincerely.
                      1. Aaron Zawi
                        Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 22: 41
                        +4
                        Baku is a moan fellow ! His relatives were there twice as a boy and then in the middle of 80-X. And here in Israel, my cousins ​​with Azerbaijani husbands live very well, so I have a good attitude towards your people at the family level. wink
                        But your fellow countryman definitely went too far. Sincerely.
                      2. Kamilla
                        Kamilla 14 September 2012 22: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        And here in Israel, my cousins ​​with Azerbaijani husbands live very well, so I have a good attitude towards your people at the family level.


                        Thanks for the kind words. Peace to your home.

                        שלום און וווילטאָג צו דיין היים smile
                      3. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 14 September 2012 23: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        But your fellow countryman definitely went too far. Sincerely.


                        where I went too far, show me. What I said the Zionists and the Jews for me the same person?

                        You have read my posts poorly.
                      4. Aaron Zawi
                        Aaron Zawi 15 September 2012 00: 30
                        +1
                        Do you even understand what you are writing? There are no bad Jews and good Jews. This is nonsense of an uneducated person. Jews in the East Slavic languages ​​are called Jews, attaching an exclusively negative meaning to this word, as if, instead of mentioning nationality, Azerbaijanis said "lumps".
                        Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, aimed at reviving the national Jewish home. The main task of the Zionist movement is to gather the entire Jewish diaspora in the State of Israel.
                        Well, is it really so hard to search for the meaning of words, a complete understanding of which is not? After all, like the Internet is at hand. Well, show at least a little curiosity.
                      5. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 15 September 2012 00: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        There are no bad Jews and good Jews.


                        You know, you don’t need to make an idiot out of me who does not know who the Zionists are.
                        According to your faith, you do not have the right to have a state !!! This is one side of the coin !!!

                        Further, you say all Jews are Zionists, and I tell you, not all Jews are Zionists. If all Jews are Zionists, then my conversation with Jews will be closed forever !!!

                        But fortunately, I have often talked with people who say that YES ZIONISTS can become exclusively Jews, but not ALL JEWS are ZIONISTS.

                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        Well, is it really so hard to search for the meaning of words, a complete understanding of which is not? After all, like the Internet is at hand. Well, show at least a little curiosity.


                        I showed so much curiosity that believe me, much more than you can imagine.

                        The word GID is used mainly in Russia. We don’t say a Jew in Azerbaijan. I have friends and acquaintances in Israel. I have never called all Jews Zionists and Jews. For me, other people are Zionists.

                        If you really want to know who I mean, then please see

                      6. DimYang
                        DimYang 15 September 2012 11: 20
                        +1
                        I agree with you, but draw Euler's circles for yourself and see how many Jews (those who are known to everyone) and also those who consider themselves as such will be in the circle of "Zioinists". It is no secret for an educated person in our time that the Jews are an artificial people, created precisely for what the Zionists are doing now, and no one has disputed this fact and has not proved the opposite.
          2. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 13: 05
            +3
            Quote: met
            Ataturk, I already wrote, but I repeat to you separately, there are Jews, and there are Jews (I do not insult the Jewish nation in any way)

            Not every Jew who is a Jew or Jew

            Then paradise will come when the Jews will not.
            (Prophecy of the wise)


            I have nothing to add to your words, my friend. +
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 14 September 2012 12: 54
        +2
        Dear Met!
        Me Merkava tanks more impressed !!))
        Of course, I am a deeply religious person, but in this case, I'm sorry, the attitude is skeptical !!
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 14 September 2012 13: 01
          +1
          Yarbay,
          Me Merkava tanks more impressed !!))
          Of course, I am a deeply religious person, but in this case, I'm sorry, the attitude is skeptical !!

          Alibek, there are such moments in life when it is better to speak the truth from the tank!
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 13
            +2
            Quote: Odessa
            Alibek, there are such moments in life when it is better to speak the truth from the tank!
            Of course, and sometimes it’s better to remain silent at all!
            More and more often, the words of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came to my mind when he saw people laughing and joking out of measure, -If you knew what I know, you would laugh less and be sadder!
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 14 September 2012 13: 29
              +2
              Yarbay,
              Of course, and sometimes it’s better to remain silent at all!

              Golden words and silence is gold! good
        2. with
          with 14 September 2012 13: 47
          +1
          Alibek, good afternoon.
          Quote: Yarbay
          Dear Met!
          Me Merkava tanks more impressed !!))

          Nothing personal!!!)))

          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 56
            +1
            Quote: met
            Nothing personal!!!)))
            Good afternoon Met !!
            Thank you of course, but as far as I can see here the missile tank did not penetrate))))
            and you know you do not regret spread all that is)))
            I don’t think that you’ll dial at least a couple more of this))))))))))
            And now the Professor will come and show you and prove that this is all bullshit))
            Personally, my opinion is that this is the best tank for today !!
            1. with
              with 14 September 2012 14: 15
              +2
              Quote: Yarbay
              Thank you of course, but as far as I can see here the missile tank did not penetrate))))

              Of course, he himself decided to leave the battle !!!)))) bully

              Quote: Yarbay
              I don’t think that you’ll dial at least a couple more of this))))))))))

              I’ll collect a lot.



              Quote: Yarbay
              Personally, my opinion is that this is the best tank for today !!

              I am not a tanker, but I understand that Merkava is made only for a certain climate and he will not reach Siberia (which Siberia will die in the Central Organ), even if it is refueled every 15 minutes.
              So this is not the best tank, but I think it's better to talk with experts on this topic.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 September 2012 14: 27
                0
                Quote: met
                I am not a tanker, but I understand that Merkava is made only for a certain climate and he will not reach Siberia (which Siberia will die in the Central Organ), even if it is refueled every 15 minutes.
                So this is not the best tank, but I think it's better to talk with experts on this topic.

                There is a theme where the respected tankers, led by the unrivaled Kars, have quite intelligently explained the advantage of Merkava!
                Well, you can read dear professor)))
                As for the climate, I have accurate data that this tank will not stall in Siberia either !!
                1. with
                  with 14 September 2012 14: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  As for the climate, I have accurate data that this tank will not stall in Siberia either !!

                  And I have other dataThat he won’t even get there!!!))) bully
                  1. with
                    with 14 September 2012 14: 38
                    +3
                    And I have other dataThat he won’t even get there!!!))) bully

            2. Odessa
              Odessa 14 September 2012 14: 19
              +3
              Yarbay,
              And now the Professor will come and show you and prove that this is all bullshit)

              The professor will not come, he will fly on a drone. laughing
              1. with
                with 14 September 2012 14: 29
                +4
                Quote: Odessa
                The professor will not come, he will fly on a drone.

                If only not on a broomstick!))) bully
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 14 September 2012 15: 06
                  +1
                  with,
                  Just think of the tree does not fit. wassat
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 September 2012 14: 29
                +1
                Quote: Odessa
                The professor will not come, he will fly on a drone.

                Esther has a professor talent !!
                I will never forget how he, in response to the pictures posted by Sergey, almost proved to all of us that the Israelis themselves shot down their planes!)))))))))
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 14 September 2012 15: 04
                  +1
                  Yarbay,
                  I will never forget how he, in response to the pictures posted by Sergey, almost proved to all of us that the Israelis themselves shot down their planes!)))))))))

                  There, in another branch of Tranzhir, he asks for the literal translation of the phrase
                  Please, who can translate this phrase into Russian
                  "
                  Earlier, law enforcement officers in the Kizlyar district of Dagestan blocked a group of militants, during a clash one soldier was wounded, one was killed
                  ."


                  The professor’s talent to teach information in this way)))))))))
                  1. spender
                    spender 14 September 2012 15: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: Odessa
                    There, in another branch of Tranzhir, he asks for the literal translation of the phrase

                    There Klim Popov famously said that this is the master Yoda said wassat
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 14 September 2012 15: 13
                      +1
                      spender,
                      There Klim Popov

                      Now I will know, and I call him Hippolytus. laughing
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 September 2012 15: 16
                    +1
                    [quote = Odessa] Talent of the professor to teach information in this way)))))))) [/ quote
                    Now I'll see, I collect this))))
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 14 September 2012 15: 38
                      +2
                      Yarbay,
                      Now I'll see, I collect this))))

                      In Odessa they say this and the most interesting thing is written, unlike all the rules for drafting a proposal.
                      How does broadcasting in different cities begin:
                      - Attention! Says Moscow.
                      - Alas! Khovoryt Kyyyv.
                      - Akhtung! Heer Sprint Berlin.
                      - Shah! Odessa has a few words to say!
            3. segamegament
              segamegament 15 September 2012 11: 34
              +1
              Quote: Yarbay
              but as far as I can see here the tank missile didn’t break through

              Well, if we assume that "did not break through"
              1. Why does the tank stand still and do not leave the shelling?
              2. The second shot finally killed him ??? )))
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 15 September 2012 11: 45
                +1
                Quote: segamegament
                Well, if we assume that "did not break through"
                1. Why does the tank stand still and do not leave the shelling?
                2. The second shot finally killed him ??? )))

                Dear segamegament !!
                The fact is that these videos have been answered many times by someone who is with me in bed, but who is valuable to me (although he often argues not about the case) Professor!
                So he proved to everyone in the topics that the tank survived after two missiles and that the crew was not injured))))
                with respect!
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 15 September 2012 12: 10
                  +2
                  Yarbay,
                  (although often argues not in the case)

                  It is not only the Professor who sins this, here the mentality is so peculiar bully
                  1. with
                    with 15 September 2012 12: 20
                    +3
                    Quote: Odessa
                    It is not only the Professor who sins this, here the mentality is so peculiar

                    They just look at the wrong "rockets (s)"!))) bully
                2. segamegament
                  segamegament 15 September 2012 13: 41
                  +1
                  Professor unquestioned authority in BTT? I don’t know this, sorry and I didn’t take part in that discussion ... at least let the reference be enlightened
                  Well then, a very simple question: all the first 2 shots fall on the left side of the Merkava and its left side of the tower (most likely this is Ptur, and the third RPG). After the first shot, the main engine of the shot flies to the side. The tank stands without moving, the barrel is lowered below the center line, attempts to deploy, if not the hull (with thicker frontal armor) towards the firing side (them), but even doesn’t turn the tower in that direction, can only talk about two things or the crew is already hit or was not there anymore. The famous video of the shooting of the Syrian T-72 clearly shows that after the first shot hits the box, the driver increases the speed by a maximum toppling out of the shelling. This is an axiom in any army in the world. So not everything is so explicit in this video ...
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 15 September 2012 13: 55
                    0
                    Quote: segamegament
                    Professor unquestioned authority in BTT? I don’t know this, sorry and I didn’t take part in that discussion ... at least let the reference be enlightened
                    no, for me there is the greatest authority in Kars tanks, but the Professor doesn’t like to lose and is technically well-versed)) I’ll try to find the link and throw it in your face !!
                    Quote: segamegament
                    Well then, a very simple question: all the first 2 shots fall on the left side of the Merkava and its left side of the tower (most likely this is Ptur, and the third RPG).

                    As far as I remember, the Professor believed that the first rocket didn’t reach the goal at all thanks to DZ, and the second missed the engine, I don’t remember about the third)))
                    The conclusion was that the tankers survived everything, but the tank was not badly damaged))
                    I ask you not to hit hard for this koment, since I am a novice lover of military equipment, served in the infantry, where in general I am interested in tanks only as targets !!
                    1. segamegament
                      segamegament 15 September 2012 15: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      As far as I remember, the Professor believed that the first rocket did not reach the goal at all thanks to DZ, and the second flashed the engine, I don’t remember about the third))) The conclusion was that the tankers survived everything, but the tank wasn’t badly damaged))

                      Will you, as an infantryman, be holding a weapon, being in an open and shot area, turn it towards the enemy attacking you, or will you also sit under fire without even turning the barrel towards the enemy? The instinct of self-preservation will force you to do this, and open at least not aimed fire. But if you have already been knocked out of spirit, you can’t do it anymore. Most likely the tank is already empty ...
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 15: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: segamegament
                        Will you, as an infantryman, be holding a weapon, being in an open and shot area, turn it toward the enemy attacking you, or will you also sit under fire without even turning the barrel towards the enemy?

                        naturally turn !!
                        Quote: segamegament
                        But if you have already been knocked out of spirit, you can’t do it anymore. Most likely the tank is already empty ..

                        Perhaps I will not argue !!
    2. MakSim51ru
      MakSim51ru 19 September 2012 17: 56
      0
      Twin Towers ... Is this in response to the Quran torn in the toilet? And Volgodonsk, Moscow? Not much else in the Caucasus is marching under the Green Banner ...
  37. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 September 2012 11: 48
    +5
    Quote: vastorg
    Nothing can be done about the costs and risks of working with animals.

    Stupidity froze! These are people, and into cattle, they are turned by really non-humans, waving their star-striped, like Puxi Rice cowards. It’s not a pity to call these creatures, and it will be for their deeds.
  38. подводник
    подводник 14 September 2012 12: 13
    +4
    Guys !!!
    They threw a "bunch" to us
    They threw this little filmman to Muslims (probably there were no candidates for the rally ?? - well, everyone wants to live)
    After all, what are they doing !!!
    After all, they are sure that no one will reach the ocean?
    And here it’s banging and fucking with it (Europe, Russia, the Middle East)
    All this strongly resembles "controlled chaos"
    But are you sure beyond the ocean that it is still MANAGED ???
    After all, if someone needs it, they will get it overseas ..
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 26
      +6
      Quote: submariner
      After all, what are they doing !!!
      After all, they are sure that no one will reach the ocean?


      Devote 18 minutes of your life to this video and understand everything.
      PROHIBITED TO SHOW IN THE USA


  39. Ataturk
    Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 14
    +5
    Here it started !!!

    BANGLADESH. Thousands of Muslims break through to the building of the US Embassy.
    Publication time: September 13, 2012, 16:10
    Thousands of demonstrators in the capital of Bangladesh, Dhaka, were trying to break through to the US Embassy building today, Western sources said.

    According to local media reports, Muslims demanded an official apology from the United States for the release of an insulting film allegedly about the Prophet Muhammad (aleikh salat vassalam). Demonstrators shouted anti-American slogans and burned the US flag. No injuries were reported about the hassles.


    YEMEN. Muslims stormed US Embassy
    Publication time: September 13, 2012, 14:48
    Following the US diplomatic missions in Cairo and Benghazi, the US embassy in Yemen was attacked today. In the capital of Sana'a, Muslims, outraged by the release of a film about the Prophet Muhammad (alayhi salat vassalam), stormed the US embassy. The police opened fire.

    Among the demonstrators there are killed and wounded. It is also reported that one policeman was killed.

    Earlier it was reported that more than 30 people were injured. Among them - 16 protesters, three police officers and 11 soldiers involved in the defense of the US embassy, ​​Xinhua reports with reference to Yemeni television.


    Due to a couple of scum, people die.



    and now the truth about scum and coward

    According to the Echo of Moscow Sam Basil hid, fearing for his life. At the same time, Pastor Jones, who produced the film, intends to show it to his parishioners.

    The Western press reports that one of the Pentagon’s senior officials suggested that the infamous pastor would refuse to support the film, pointing out that the offensive film caused a wave of violence in the Middle East
    1. Kamilla
      Kamilla 14 September 2012 12: 26
      +5
      Quote: Ataturk
      According to Echo of Moscow, Sam Basil hid, fearing for his life.


      like a rat ... now until the end of his life he will hide ... so many innocents will die because of him ... ((((((((((((
      1. spender
        spender 14 September 2012 12: 31
        +6
        Quote: Kamilla
        now until the end of life and will hide

        You definitely noticed this, but the most important thing here is that this "masterpiece" brought the end of life very much closer ... hi I don’t think he will live long. IMHO
      2. Ataturk
        Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 37
        +7
        Quote: Kamilla
        like a rat ... now until the end of life and will hide ...


        One of these rats is in Denmark and in Sweden. Lives can be said at the police station. Danchan made a caricature of Mohamed. And he supported.

        2 de bb-la !!!

        And Breivik himself? He also killed children under the dictation of the Zionists. Why didn’t he kill? No one said. These children there protested against Israel. In defense of Palestinian children. For which they paid.

        And he was given 21 years in prison. Although the government of NORWAY should have changed the criminal code because of it. He had to be killed as in the film LEGALIZED CITIZEN, where the poor guy was led to the vein of hellish liquid.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 12: 47
          +4
          Damn, Omar Ring the typo in the name request
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 14 September 2012 12: 57
            +5
            Alexander Romanov,
            Damn, Omar Ring the typo in the name

            I understand everything, but with a sound you write Omar in Ukrainian. And with a typo and a no brainer, I posted three bottles of beer, now there will be typos in every word drinks
            1. kotdavin4i
              kotdavin4i 14 September 2012 14: 20
              +2
              Quote: Odessa
              posted three bottles of beer

              The namesake had a good snack ... so everything in a bunch ...
          2. Ataturk
            Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 58
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Damn, Omar Ring the typo in the name

            Everything is normal buddy)))) be healthy!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 September 2012 12: 29
      +3
      Hi Oman, well, it will continue to be distributed in the regions and TV news will help in this, I give 100% it will spread to Europe.
      1. Robin_3ON
        Robin_3ON 14 September 2012 12: 32
        0
        interesting, but in the US why is it quiet, or are there few Muslims ???
      2. Ataturk
        Ataturk 14 September 2012 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, it will continue to be distributed in the regions and TV news will help in this, I give 100% it will spread to Europe.


        That's right, but in Europe, oh how many Muslims. Yes, and enough fanatics.
  40. tekinoral
    tekinoral 14 September 2012 12: 37
    0
    but it seems to me all this to distract the attention of Muslims from Syria, maybe even the Iranian hand
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 14 September 2012 13: 01
      +3
      Quote: tekinoral
      but it seems to me all this to distract the attention of Muslims from Syria, maybe even the Iranian hand


      Rather, it is a provocation in order to deal with a couple of pawns in order to take the QUEEN !!!

      The people of the West do not want to fight against Iran. They killed the ambassador, so what? Beasts are Muslims. What to do? Punish and revenge.

      Now the Americans will join the army en masse, WISH, as it was after September 11th. And for what? To capture Iran and Syria

      as a result, the WEST loses 100 pawns, but takes 000 QUEEN.

      CHECKMATE!!!
      1. tekinoral
        tekinoral 14 September 2012 13: 50
        +1
        ataturk and you look deeper, while the demonstrations in the Muslim world no one removes the attention of Syria. Assad and Iran start bombing rebels in full, cameras and cameras are deployed in a different direction, by the way 2 days ago they bombed a Turkmen village what did they write nit?
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 14 September 2012 16: 59
          +2
          I do not think that these freaks work for Syria or Iran.
          I doubt very much.
  41. Nechai
    Nechai 14 September 2012 12: 39
    +5
    Quote: Rustam
    For that fought for it and ran

    Quote: vorobey
    then this is a planned action

    Rustam, everything is going according to plan. It needs a legitimate reason to move on to the next stage. Plus, look, those who know too much are eliminated. This will be followed by the destruction of all statehood in the vastness of "flower revolutions", to impose a war of all against all. And the apotheosis - all in camouflage "peacekeepers" from NATO and the United States. And then TNCs will harness everything they need, relying on PMCs. This is how they plan, but life is an interesting thing and any plan is good only before the start of its implementation ...
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 14 September 2012 13: 08
      +4
      Quote: Nechai
      every plan is good only before its implementation ....

      Quote: Nechai
      life is an interesting thing

      Hello Valera. as Comrade said Sukhov- That's for sure.
  42. maksim
    maksim 14 September 2012 13: 08
    +1
    Americans are already doing something reckless and provocative --- how long is the question?
  43. Rumata
    Rumata 14 September 2012 13: 15
    +5
    The director did not violate any US laws, just as hundreds of films with "quotes" from the Talmud about the blood of Christian babies, and other paranoid delirium about "being chosen by God" and "kill a goy, he is not a man" do not violate them. And how many films there are about Christianity as a descendant of paganism, the cult of the Sun God, artificial religion, etc. Why don't the Jews of the whole world burn the Egyptian embassies after another interpretation, another "scientist", and Christians don't arrange lynches after another comedy from Hollywood where the god is a woman, Issus is mentally retarded, and the angel is transvestites. Or why the Muslims of Russia don't arrange pogroms?
    You can fantasize how much you want about the plans of the United States, provocations and puppets, but as for me, the problem is different. In the Muslim countries of North Africa, up to 40% (depending on the country) are young people under 24 years old, most of whom do not work, suffer from garbage. Tahrir Square has become a gathering place for any reason, the Egyptians, Libyans and other residents of the region are the most politically conscious people in history, go out in droves for almost any reason, and then they insulted the Prophet !!
    I will answer my own question, Muslims of Russia and its neighbors do not burn the embassies because, on average, they are smarter and more educated, but much more yours - THEY PANCAKE WORK, root the seed and do not choose on Facebook which "spontaneous" rally to go to today.
    Z.Y
    As an atheist to the marrow of bones, I don’t understand what the weight of fuss is and why some religions can be offended (or ridiculed, express YOUR opinion), while others cannot.
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 14 September 2012 13: 24
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      I will answer my own question myself, Muslims of Russia


      You yourself answered your own question. And everything else is nonsense! Do Buddhists live in Chechnya? And to Tatarstan Bashkiria? There, too, they are no longer satisfied.
      And they do it in their Muslim country.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 14 September 2012 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: Ataturk
        You yourself answered your own question. And everything else is nonsense! Do Buddhists live in Chechnya? And to Tatarstan Bashkiria? There, too, they are no longer satisfied.
        And they do it in their Muslim country.

        That is, the Muslims of Russia are less Muslims than the Egyptians? Why is Tahrir filled with milk skins burning flags, and is everything quiet in Chechnya?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 14 September 2012 14: 06
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          That is, the Muslims of Russia are less Muslims than the Egyptians? Why is Tahrir filled with milk skins burning flags, and is everything quiet in Chechnya?

          This is a question of iman, that is, faith !!
          I am also silent, but I’m not running to the American embassy ??
          But I'm also angry !!
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 14 September 2012 16: 11
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            This is a question of iman, that is, faith !!
            I am also silent, but I’m not running to the American embassy ??
            But I'm also angry !!

            I would be very surprised if I knew that you were smashing the US Embassy due to the fact that someone from the 350 million population of this country made a similar film.
            This is not a matter of faith, it is a matter of education and environment.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 September 2012 16: 14
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              This is not a matter of faith, it is a matter of education and environment.

              understand, those who made this dirty film were counting on that very upbringing !!!
              and if I had the opportunity, in spite of my upbringing, I would have torn out the heart of the author of the film !!
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 19: 48
                +2
                But education does not allow a word to be answered? And if the followers of the authors of the film bomb Azerbaijan without a nuclear weapon in the Stone Age, for a torn heart? How to look at this?
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 September 2012 20: 41
                  0
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  But education does not allow a word to be answered? And if the followers of the authors of the film bomb Azerbaijan without a nuclear weapon in the Stone Age, for a torn heart? How to look at this?
                  For all the will of the Almighty !!
                  Victory and defeat and everything else gives only HE !!
                  Without His desire, not a single leaf on a tree will not flake off!
  44. Yarbay
    Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 22
    +1
    Quote: Rumata
    I will answer my own question, Muslims of Russia and its neighbors do not burn the embassies because, on average, they are smarter and more educated, but much more yours - THEY PANCAKE WORK, root the seed and do not choose on Facebook which "spontaneous" rally to go to today.
    This is not the only point !!

    Quote: Rumata
    The director didn’t violate any laws of the USA,

    There are such things in Islam about this that are not found in other religions, but I don’t want to write about it here !!
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 14 September 2012 13: 27
      +1
      Quote: Yarbay
      There are such things in Islam about this that are not found in other religions, but I don’t want to write about it here !!

      What is written in the old books is one thing, but tell me what law the directors violated?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 14 September 2012 13: 42
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        What is written in the old books is one thing, but tell me what law the directors violated?

        Dear question, not in the old books!
        Insulting a prophet, not only Islamic in Islam, is punishable by death, there is no democracy in this !!
        And the producers of these provocation films are well aware of this!
        with respect!
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 14 September 2012 15: 34
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Insulting a prophet, not only Islamic in Islam, is punishable by death, there is no democracy in this !!

          Again, what difference does it make to me, an atheist, resident of a democratic country, what is written in the Qur'an? For example, I am a historian from Canada, studied the life of a prophet and came to the conclusion that she was a very cunning woman who knew how to make up. Maybe I'm 100% sure of this, maybe I'll write a book about it that 3 people will read, or even make a movie. I will not break any laws, and I can publish any nonsense, and now what can I expect to die from my neighbors and evacuate Canadian embassies from Arab countries?
          This is at the level of religious persecution of the Middle Ages. As long as the USA or Canada are secular, democratic states, I can write and say whatever I like, if this does not contradict the Criminal Code. The appeal to violence, for example, to kill all Muslims, is one thing, and the freedoms provided by modern Western society are quite another ...
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 14 September 2012 15: 45
            +5
            Rumata,
            For example, I am a historian from Canada, studied the life of a prophet and came to the conclusion that she was a very cunning woman who knew how to make up well

            I read exactly the same about the fact that one woman managed to become the Pope. A heavy, maleish woman was with a smoky voice. I fell asleep on one of the horse campaigns, collapsed from the horse and began to give birth. The guards coordinated surrounded her tight ring, and at birth they immediately choked the baby so that the shadow of shame that the pope was a woman would not fall on the Catholic Church.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 14 September 2012 16: 16
            0
            Quote: Rumata
            This is at the level of religious persecution of the Middle Ages.

            Understand what you want!
            But for me it is not a subject of bargaining and research !!

            *** freedoms provided by modern Western society ... **
            I do not see any freedom in insulting !!
            Moreover, I do not see any special freedoms in Western society!
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 16: 26
              +3
              Yarbay
              But let me tell you, I mean Muslims, no one is going to bargain. On the territory of Islamic countries, you can at least introduce the death penalty for any reason, but no one gives you the right to impose your behavioral standards on other peoples and religious groups. What are you not comfortable with in the US actions? Declare an economic boycott for them, break the dip. Relations, but what crowds of brutal fanatics get up to, is not a protest but banditry.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 September 2012 16: 42
                -1
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                What are you not comfortable with in US actions?

                Provocation and well planned!
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                this is not a protest but banditry.

                I agree! But no less banditry is what was shot in the film!
                Rather, insults of such an insult are not much different from banditry!
            2. Rumata
              Rumata 14 September 2012 16: 38
              +3
              Quote: Yarbay
              I do not see any freedom in insulting !!
              Moreover, I do not see any special freedoms in Western society!

              Darwin insulted hundreds of millions of Christians, but those beginnings of freedom allowed him to publish and turn science upside down, and they burned another less successful scientist alive. Your comments are very insulting to sayetologists, and so what? Or you can make fun of all religions or not one, or it turns out that insulting Islam is much more serious than insulting Buddhism, Judaism or Baha'i ...
              If you don’t see special freedoms in Europe compared to the UAE, then there’s nothing to argue here, because in Germany public execution for communicating with genies is really something ordinary. And about the rights and freedoms of women there’s even nothing to say that Berlin is that Riyadh, everything is the same ...
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 September 2012 20: 45
                0
                Quote: Rumata
                Darwin insulted hundreds of millions of Christians, but those beginnings of freedom allowed him to publish and turn science upside down, and they burned another less successful scientist alive. Your comments are very insulting to sayetologists, and so what? Or you can make fun of all religions or not one, or it turns out that insulting Islam is much more serious than insulting Buddhism, Judaism or Baha'i ...

                With all due respect to you, I consider your comments on this issue demagogy! And if ... but there .. and why ..
                I answered mine specifically above!
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 14 September 2012 21: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  With all due respect to you, I consider your comments on this issue demagogy! And if ... but there .. and why ..
                  I answered mine specifically above!

                  Just the specifics are zero, the one-goal game, I do not get answers, you call a comparison with other religions demagogy. Tell me why, for example, a resident of multi-confessional Russia, who does not believe in God, but lives without violating the Criminal Code and the Constitution, should start from what is written in the Qur'an and take a steam bath so that someone doesn’t like something? For me, that Islam is that of Jainism, that Christianity is a set of fairy tales, I do not believe in God. Why on earth would representatives of one of these groups dare to dictate to me what to say, what to write and what to make films about? Why am I, without violating the laws of the country, I still have to look around somewhere and think if I’m hurt the feelings of Muslims / Jews / Buddhists \ Order_Krasnyh_Mukhomorov ...? While Sharit’s laws are not in use, you can dream of tearing out the hearts of those who infuriate you, but you will have to file a lawsuit and act in CIVILIZED ways, rather than slide into the Stone Age.
                  I REPEAT
                  Why is a resident of the United States able to express sick theories about Judaism, Christianity and other religions, but there is no Islam? Because you are a Muslim?
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 15 September 2012 07: 30
                    +2
                    Quote: Rumata
                    Why is a resident of the United States able to express sick theories about Judaism, Christianity and other religions, but there is no Islam? Because you are a Muslim?

                    Do not over-press Rumata!
                    I talked with you several times and came to the conclusion that you do not know how and do not want to read!
                    Listen to yourself and do not hear others!
                    Please discuss and explore Islam as much as you like, but it is NOT possible to slander and write insults to the prophet and his family!
                    To understand this you need to reboot your head from Zionism !!
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Do not over-press Rumata!

                      That is, I will not get an answer? So I thought ... it is much easier to write that I am a Zionist than to answer with what fright your faith should be for me \ more important than the rest ...
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 12: 28
                        -2
                        [quote = Rumata] That is, I will not get an answer? So I thought ... it is much easier to write that I am a Zionist than to answer with what fright your faith should be for me \ more important than the rest ... [/ quote]
                        Carefully re-read my previous koment and pay attention to the following
                        [quote = Yarbay]Please discuss and explore Islam as much as you like, but it’s IMPOSSIBLE to slander and write insults to the prophet and his family! [/ Quote]
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Please discuss and explore Islam as much as you like, but slandering and writing insults to the prophet and his family is NOT

                        You are not allowed! Who forbids this to me? I don’t believe in your faith or in your Prophets, I don’t make any difference Muhammad is Buddha or Bab, for me these are historical figures no more. Faith forbids you to laugh at the prophets, what am I up to? As long as I do not violate the law of the country, the moral and ethical standards will be the limiting factor for me. If I want to write that one of the prophets was gay, I won’t do this not because I’m violating the law of the country or Islam, but out of respect for Muslim friends, and that’s all. And you continue to transfer YOUR laws to me, say what can be done to me and what cannot.
                      3. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 19: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        As long as I do not violate the law of the country, the moral and ethical standards and everything will be the limiting factor for me.

                        Almost every self-respecting site has rules: it is forbidden to post information that incites ethnic religious hatred.

                        And if someone complained that he was insulted, the creators of the site will consider it necessary to remove this video.

                        The creators of this site did not do this, did not consider it necessary to do this, although there were plenty of those dissatisfied, either they did not respect themselves and the opinions of others, or simply Americans, which was the same thing!

                        The site is Amerovsky.
                      4. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 20: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Ortrega
                        The site is Amerovsky.

                        According to Russian laws, the director would be imprisoned, according to American, no.
                        “In the United States, the broad interpretation by the courts of the First Amendment to the US Constitution (on freedom of speech) prevents the establishment of criminal liability for inciting ethnic hatred. Courts acknowledge that freedom of speech can only be limited in cases where expressions can directly lead to unlawful acts and when no other accessible and less restrictive measures can be effective.. "
                        That is why, from the point of view of US laws, there are no violations here, and therefore youtube did not remove the video, even when Obama personally asked. The question is a matter of principle, a precedent, which could be the beginning of censorship if sites back down and remove content.
              2. Ortrega
                Ortrega 14 September 2012 21: 15
                +1
                Quote: Rumata
                but it turns out that insulting Islam is much more serious than insulting Buddhism, Judaism or Baha'i ...

                It's just that this insult came from the lips of those who had already done a lot of dirty tricks, It was that last straw.
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 14 September 2012 21: 27
                  0
                  Quote: Ortrega
                  It's just that this insult came from the lips of those who had already done a lot of dirty tricks, It was that last straw.

                  I try not to touch politics, but to get a normal answer, how is Islam different from other religions, and why should this be important for me to an atheist?
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 15 September 2012 07: 33
                    -1
                    Quote: Rumata
                    get a normal answer how Islam differs from other religions,

                    Do you want to get it in a nutshell ??
                    You are atheists in the same way, you have no patience to listen to and no desire to understand !!
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 19
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Do you want to get it in a nutshell ??
                      You are atheists in the same way, you have no patience to listen to and no desire to understand !!

                      Is that all? As a believer, I gradually turned into an atheist, not even an agnostic, like most, because such answers only irritate me.
                      Sincerely ...
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 15 September 2012 12: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        You are atheists in the same way, you have no patience to listen to and no desire to understand!

                        Quote: Rumata
                        gradually turned into an atheist, not even an agnostic, like most, because such answers only irritate me.

                        QED request
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 12: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        I from a believer gradually turned into an atheist

                        I do not understand!
                        Do you compete with me in the significance of your comments or in philosophy ??
                        You wrote that you are an atheist, now you are offended that you did not see the believer in you !!
                        I am convinced that a believer would not put up caricatures of the prophets of God for discussion here;
                      3. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 12: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I am convinced that a believer would not put up caricatures of the prophets of God for discussion here;

                        And I'm not a believer, because everything is clearly written. You continue to translate the arrows. It’s one thing that you live according to the laws of Islam or Judaism, and another thing is according to what laws I live. I have no right to tell you how to live, but you also have no right to tell me what to do. I want to write a satire about the prophet and Islam, I can do it. Maybe I will break your laws from old books, but there are no laws of the country, and this is the only thing that matters to me, and you still can’t understand it
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 12: 49
                        +1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        I'm not a believer

                        Decide who you are and what you want, then we'll talk !!
                        Want to sow confusion and carry nonsense!
                        The flag in your hands, what do you want from me ??
                        I expressed my position to you and I also do not care whether you like it or not !!
                      5. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 13: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Decide who you are and what you want, then we'll talk !!
                        Want to sow confusion and carry nonsense!
                        The flag in your hands, what do you want from me ??
                        I expressed my position to you and I also do not care whether you like it or not !!

                        I wrote that I was a believer and became an atheist, what can be defined here, and how can this be misunderstood? You read the site too much, you see something that is not there. They quote you when this was not the case, then the phrase "I was a believer", you understand as "I am a believer." You have never answered my questions, which means that you and I both know what kind of answer it is. You can express your position as much as you like, live there in your Sharia, tear out the hearts of those who did something wrong, but do not tell me how to live. Do not meddle with your antediluvian rules to people who do not live by them.
                      6. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 September 2012 13: 12
                        -2
                        Quote: Rumata
                        Do not climb with your antediluvian rules towards people who do not live by them.

                        I’ll climb, what will you do ??
                        You say that you will do what you want ??
                        I also do what my heart and my soul command !!
                        That's what kind of conversation you are having and such an answer is close to you !!
                      7. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 13: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I also do what my heart and my soul command !!

                        And this, as you yourself wrote, to tear out the heart of the person who created the film about the Prophet of Islam ... The flag is in your hands
                      8. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 20: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        Maybe I will break your laws from old books, but there are no laws of the country, and this is the only thing that matters to me, and you still can’t understand it

                        And which country, although I probably understood, according to European laws? Or do you simply adhere to them?
                      9. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 20: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        and it’s another matter according to what laws I live.

                        And let me take interest in what laws do you live by?
                      10. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 20: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: Ortrega
                        And let me take an interest in what laws you live by

                        According to the laws of the country in the territory of which I currently reside. If I live in the USA, I don’t violate their laws, just as I do not violate the laws of Germany or England when I am there for work. But in all Western countries, laws are more or less similar. Caricatures of Mohamed in Europe are prohibited ...
                      11. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 21: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        According to the laws of the country in the territory of which I currently reside. If I live in the USA, I don’t violate their laws, just as I do not violate the laws of Germany or England when I am there for work. But in all Western countries, laws are more or less similar. Caricatures of Mohamed in Europe are prohibited ...

                        Personally, I live according to one single rule: "A person has the right to do anything and anywhere!"
                        The main thing is that this would not violate the interests of another person!

                        Social Studies, Grade 6.

                        And most importantly, behave yourself, and everything will be fine.
                        This is from the movie "Brother", if anyone does not remember.
                      12. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 21: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Ortrega
                        Personally, I live according to one single rule: "A person has the right to do anything and anywhere!"
                        The main thing is that this would not violate the interests of another person!

                        It doesn’t happen ... You probably won’t leave your house, you won’t please everyone, if you get promoted it violates the interests of other applicants, they gave you more credit - someone will get less. If everything was so simple, for a long time there would be no laws or authorities or states, and everyone would live in harmony and like butterflies ...
                        Not everything is white or black, most of the actions are gray, and the law of the state allows us to distinguish where gray turns to black - that is, criminally or administratively punishable. It's like a fox who needs to feed children, killing chicken with chickens.
                      13. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 21: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        If everything was so simple, for a long time there would be no laws or authorities or states, and everyone would live in harmony and like butterflies ...

                        In fact, everything is just simple, if everyone tried to live by such a rule and knew how to agree, everyone would live in harmony
                        Quote: Rumata
                        and cocoa butterflies ...

                        Quote: Rumata
                        It's like a fox who needs to feed children, killing chicken with chickens.

                        The fox, by the way, will not kill the chicken with chickens, it will only take the chicken, but the ferret can just pass everyone on, and where he lives he will not.
                        And do not compare animals with people, animals are much better, they don’t do anything for nothing hi
                  2. Ortrega
                    Ortrega 15 September 2012 19: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Rumata
                    I try not to touch politics, but to get a normal answer, how is Islam different from other religions, and why should this be important for me to an atheist?

                    Without touching politics, you are unlikely to get an answer, or rather, you are unlikely to understand it, or comprehend it, because everywhere you look, we have a solid policy everywhere.
                    I can’t say that I am special in politics, but still, as an observer with my own opinion, I can determine what is good and what is bad.
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 15 September 2012 20: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Ortrega
                      Without touching on politics, you are unlikely to get an answer, or rather, you are unlikely to understand it, or comprehend it, because wherever you look, we have a solid policy everywhere

                      Everything is simpler than it seems, they impose on me a foreign culture and religion, make me respect their god and prophet, in whom I do not believe. It is deeply the same whether the US policy has led to this or the intrigues of Iran, the fact remains. I do not believe in these tales about the prophets, god and commandments. For me, the Qur'an, the Bible, the fables of Krylov, on the same level, that is, interesting reading, no more, no less. And they demand from me to live according to their laws, not to draw prophets, not to discuss how they looked, and even more so to question their life described in old books.
                      At this rate, they will begin to burn at the stake, banishing genies, deja vu ...
                      1. Ortrega
                        Ortrega 15 September 2012 20: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        And they demand from me to live according to their laws, not to draw prophets, not to discuss how they looked, and even more so to question their life described in old books.

                        No one demands from you to live according to their laws.

                        For example, do you have something sacred, dear, if so, imagine that over this very saint, dear, what will you do, what will you do?
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2012 21: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Ortrega
                        No one demands from you to live according to their laws.

                        Yes, the fact of the matter is that they require, read the entire branch, you will find a lot of interesting things.
                        Quote: Ortrega
                        For example, do you have something sacred, dear, if so, imagine that over this very saint, dear, what will you do, what will you do?

                        I have already been asked about this. I know that I will not do it, this is lynching. I will act within the framework of the Criminal Code, which I advise you ...
          3. Ortrega
            Ortrega 14 September 2012 21: 06
            +2
            Quote: Rumata
            I will not break any laws, and I can publish any nonsense, and now what can I expect to die from my neighbors and evacuate Canadian embassies from Arab countries?

            This film offended the feelings of believers and the responsibility for it lies with Amer’s censorship, and to whom to make claims, of course, to the embassy. We call it inciting ethnic and religious hatred, it is punishable by law, if I’m not mistaken, the time limit for this is not small.
            I was beside myself with anger when the "defenders" of the Musipushi smashed the crosses, and the freaks passed by and filmed.
            I would cut that hut with the same saw angry
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 14 September 2012 21: 33
              +1
              Quote: Ortrega
              This film offended the feelings of believers and the responsibility for it lies with Amer’s censorship, and to whom to make claims, of course, to the embassy. We call it inciting ethnic and religious hatred, it is punishable by law, if I’m not mistaken, the time limit for this is not small.
              I was beside myself with anger when the "defenders" of the Musipushi smashed the crosses, and the freaks passed by and filmed.
              I would cut that hut with the same saw

              This film does not fall under the article on Inciting hatred, there are certain criteria and believe in the United States with this very strict. Thus, you can put the directors of the film "Dogma", and half of Hollywood for a couple. And how many historians can be transplanted who write works about the emergence of Christianity, was there Christ at all, etc. There are hundreds of provocative articles about Christianity, some consider it pseudoscientific works, some are crazy delirium, but no one is imprisoned for inciting between. nat discord. But for some reason, some people think that Islam is a completely different matter, and I do not understand why ...
              1. Ortrega
                Ortrega 15 September 2012 20: 39
                0
                Quote: Rumata
                But for some reason, some believe that Islam is a completely different matter, and I don’t understand why ...

                Because even Comrade Sukhov said: "The East is a delicate matter, Petruha!"
                The guys live there, painfully hot, flare up from the slightest spark.

                This must be understood fool
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 14 September 2012 21: 34
              +1
              There is no censorship in the USA. There are constantly going to work, films, etc. ironic over Judaism, Christianity and other religions. If Muslims think they are special, why do they not want to shut themselves off from this world and sit only in Islamic countries? By the way, if such a film would be released in China, with the permission of the leadership of the CCP, then I really do not envy the Islamists in a similar situation with the embassy. China laid down all human rights, but this is a country that will dictate its will to the world for the next hundred years.
              1. Ortrega
                Ortrega 15 September 2012 20: 41
                +2
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                There is no censorship in the USA.

                There is nothing sacred at all. For them, the main thing is money, business and nothing personal request
            3. Kamilla
              Kamilla 14 September 2012 21: 46
              +2
              Quote: Ortrega
              This film offended the feelings of believers and the responsibility for it lies with Amer’s censorship,


              all truly respected.
  45. Nechai
    Nechai 14 September 2012 13: 28
    +3
    Quote: vorobey
    as Comrade said Sukhov- That's for sure.

    Hello Sasha! The driving goals of the New Globalists and the rulers of the "world caliphate" are surprisingly EDENTICAL! - World Domination. I am sure that the governing center is the same. Everyone remembers perfectly what always ended experiments on the introduction of a "new World Order" - WORLD BATTLE !!! On the one hand, the paranoid greed and lust for power of a handful of people who have imposed their own rules of the game on others, called the World Financial System. Legality or generally indifference of the majority, these are the current conditions for the development of homo "sapiens". It is possible to prevent the newest blood bath only by performing a jewelry "surgical" operation to cut off a cancerous tumor on the human body. Otherwise, the metastases are spreading more and more. And from some stage it will not be possible to do without "chimeo-therapy" ...
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 14 September 2012 13: 34
      +5


      Valera, can I answer that?
  46. gregor6549
    gregor6549 14 September 2012 14: 36
    +1
    How was Taras Bulba there? "Than I gave birth to you, so I will kill you!" All the same. Whoever created a mess in Libya, he died from him. And it would be okay to be alone, or even others, who drags along with him neither by hearing nor spirit. The pattern, however
  47. strannik595
    strannik595 14 September 2012 14: 50
    +4
    I do not hear the voices of Sir Paul, Sting and Louise Ciccone in defense of American art .... a point is not iron? it’s not for you to protect laughing
  48. Alexei
    Alexei 14 September 2012 15: 03
    0
    And such news discourages me. If we assume that the Americans achieved this, in the near future they will receive a lot of reasons to go open war on Muslim countries.
    1. Ortrega
      Ortrega 14 September 2012 21: 18
      0
      Quote: Alexej
      soon they will get a lot of reasons to go open war on Muslim countries.

      And they don’t sweat at all at once, it’s not to hammer the Aborigines and not to drive the Indians on the reservation.
  49. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 14 September 2012 15: 32
    +1
    London. September 14th. INTERFAX.RU - The US State Department was aware of a possible attack on the American consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi, but did not warn diplomats, the British newspaper The Independent reported on Friday, citing senior diplomatic sources.

    According to newspaper sources, the US State Department received information about the impending attack two days before the attack.
    It was reported that on Tuesday in this Libyan city an attack was made on the American consulate, the victims of which were four US citizens, including the US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

    An interesting picture looms.
  50. Bob
    Bob 14 September 2012 16: 10
    0
    The photograph resembled the reprisal against Gaddafi. In general, a true saying is a tooth for a tooth. Only it seems to me that this will not be limited, as long as a real war is going on in Libya and the Middle East, and the prosperous West drinks black coffee in the morning and wools the Internet in the evenings, which is not fair in itself.
    And, of course, it is no coincidence that the time of events is - akurat before the US elections to give odds to the opponents of Obama, who in turn is stubborn in resolving the Iranian problem. Definitely a provocation and a trace of Israeli intelligence. And the scenario has just begun to twist into a kind of spiral of events and "accidents", the result of which may be fateful events.