Finland ordered an additional batch of ACS K9 Thunder to replace the Soviet "Carnations"

Finland has decided to purchase an additional batch of South Korean K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers. As stated in the message of the Ministry of Defense of the country, Finland took advantage of the option to purchase howitzers.

The Finnish government has approved the purchase of an additional batch of 10 K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers in addition to those already purchased. According to available information, howitzers from the presence of the South Korean army are planned for delivery, as under the previous contract. Delivery times were not disclosed, but most likely the new batch will be delivered along with the machines of the first contract.

The first contract for the purchase of 48 units of 155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzers K9 Thunder from the presence of the South Korean army was signed by the Finnish Ministry of Defense in February 2017. In addition to the howitzers themselves, it included training, the supply of spare parts and service support. The contract included an option to purchase an additional batch of K9 howitzers.

The first batch of South Korean self-propelled guns arrived in Finland in February 2018, the end of deliveries was planned for 2024, but now it will most likely be postponed due to the supply of additional vehicles.

All South Korean howitzers arriving in Finland are handed over to Millog Oy, which installs Finnish equipment on them, which is not specified, and repaints them before being handed over to the military.

Howitzers K9 Thunder Moukari (Finnish name) are gradually replacing the outdated Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet "Carnation") in the Finnish Defense Forces, purchased in 1992 from the army of the former GDR in the amount of 72 units.

Comments

[Cananecat]

obsolete Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet Gvozdika), purchased in 1992

Ukraine strained in anticipation of possible "humanitarian" assistance.

[Nexcom]

Do they need them? They seem to have problems with ammunition of this caliber.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Nexcom

Do they need them? They seem to have problems with ammunition of this caliber.

The fact of the matter is, the presence of these howitzers among the Finns implies the availability of ammunition for them. The metal itself can be melted down, and the ammunition can either be destroyed or sold. What will a zealous owner choose?

[Nexcom]

and either destroy the ammunition or sell it

... or use it as intended by "separators". uh-yes, a sad prospect may appear

[den3080]

Quote: Canecat

Quote: Nexcom

Do they need them? They seem to have problems with ammunition of this caliber.

The fact of the matter is, the presence of these howitzers among the Finns implies the availability of ammunition for them. The metal itself can be melted down, and the ammunition can either be destroyed or sold. What will a zealous owner choose?

Sell, and draw that destroyed. And get money from the sale and money for disposal. Doublet.
This is how real ukroshumers usually work.

[sen]

They seem to have problems with ammunition of this caliber.

No. They have problems with 152mm, 122mm is still enough.

[Nexcom]

so that the Wehrmacht's coming out to have no ammunition at all. no one needs to attack them nafik, but everyone will be calmer if they are left without ammunition

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Nexcom

Do they need them? They seem to have problems with ammunition of this caliber.

They seem to have a problem with 152mm ammunition, not 122mm ...

[Invoce]

Any of the countries of the "collective" West is ready to provide "assistance" to Ukraine by selling it any outdated equipment ... For a credit loan, under IMF guarantees, or under some other guarantees ... But Ukraine is not creditworthy and is capable of "throwing" partners on babos So no one will give anything away for free. They will sell to Africa, they pay without scammers ...

[Roma 1977]

Under the "war with Russia" will give and free. For a good deed - they will not give, but for a bad deed - they will also pour it with a hill.

[Nexcom]

nothing, they will again beg for money from the owner and buy it. Finnish Carnations will clearly be in better condition than their own. and even if the ammunition is given

[knn54]

Canecat and Co., but nothing that "Carnation" (and not only) and the MTLB / MTLBu platform itself was produced (eh?) By the "special shop" KhTZ.
And the Koreans are great - for almost 10 years "Thunder" has been competing with the Germans and the Yankees.

[Cananecat]

Quote: knn54

Canecat and Co., but nothing that "Carnation"

I am amazed at your knowledge in heavy arteleria ... But what are we talking about ammunition for those same Carnations? And let at least Ferrari produce a special workshop.

[marat2016]

The Finns did not sell decommissioned equipment to anyone (there were no precedents).

[alexniko77]

"In addition to the howitzers themselves, it included training, supply of spare parts and service support."
but the warranty card and the ability to return within 10 days did not include the product you did not like ...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Plus a box of Korean language tutorials and Finnish-Korean phrasebooks!

[Scharnhorst]

But seriously, the Finns are surreptitiously switching to the NATO caliber. Even earlier, the MiG-21 was replaced in the Air Force. And in case of need, will the Baltic Fleet be able to block Finnish ports with mines? ...

[APASUS]

It is strange why the Finns settled on the K9 Thunder ACS. As a rule, the Scandinavians support each other and it is logical that they will buy the FH77 BW L52 "Archer".

[Orsis338]

The terrain there is different from the Swedish one, the wheelbase is not very suitable here.

[APASUS]

Quote: Orsis338

The terrain there is different from the Swedish one, the wheelbase is not very suitable here.

How is this Swedish area different from the Finnish one? I'd love to understand

[I am not a robot]

so no one bought archers except the Swedes, probably an unsuccessful design

[voyaka uh]

Finland does not have the best relations with Sweden.
These are completely different peoples.

[Paranoid50]

replace the obsolete Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet "Carnation") in the Finnish Defense Forces, purchased in 1992 from the presence of the army of the former GDR in the amount of 72 units.

The Finns were lucky then - it was a very good option for a country of thousands of swamps and lakes. However, even before that, they, among other things, purchased Soviet weapons, incl. art. I had a chance to talk with a Finn who served in the D-30 crew back in the 70s - he spoke extremely positively about the materiel.

[Kasym]

Greetings from Almaty, Alexander!
My grandfather is an arteller, he came to Vienna, said: "Whoever shoots farther wins!" I talked about the concentration of arty trunks per 1 km. when advancing. Up to 500 trunks per km. and what effect it had on the enemy: "The Germans could not raise their heads, and our infantry was already sitting behind their collars when we moved the fire further." I, a goldfinch, did not know then.
And now. Where are the new "Acacia", "Cornflowers", "Peonies", "Hyacinths", D-30, Rapiers, etc.? We need cheap and massive self-propelled guns and guns, from which all NATO members trembled - such a quantitative superiority comes to naught - resources are not eternal. That "Coalition" (even "Msta") is expensive for the mass scale.

[impostor]

Whoever shoots further wins

Barrel artillery is close to physical limits, in addition to derivation, advanced models take into account the correction for the rotation of the earth with might and main, modern active-reactive ones are increasingly acquiring the features of rocket weapons. There are also specific tasks, from 152 mm, to the Supreme reserve (so far they included large and special power, now like the airborne current), or when you need to put more than 40 km in the window on the DTST.

[svp67]

Howitzers K9 Thunder Moukari (Finnish name) are gradually replacing the outdated Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet "Carnation") in the Finnish Defense Forces, purchased in 1992 from the army of the former GDR in the amount of 72 units.

Cool Replacement ... EXCEEDED