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When the country is ashamed. Farce performed by the authorities

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Yes, now let's talk about the farce and humiliation of many things. Judging by how the events took place in the Moscow metro, it's time to think about where our country is heading. And she rolls somewhere in a not very good place, ships all over. And in fact, it reminds me very much of the very Europeans that we love to criticize so much.


But let's go in order.

1. The problem of Dagestan "heroes"


This problem has existed since Soviet times, and it is not only Dagestan. This applies to all southern republics. It is from there that a stream of such organisms comes, slowly and surely turning Moscow into Maskvabad. Who are frankly not educated, cultureless and just boors without the slightest idea of ​​what honor is. For whom the three of them pounce on one - this is a completely normal act.

Generally Moscow история with my fellow countryman Roman Kovalev showed many interesting moments. Over which we even need to think, not for us, but for those who are sitting in the Kremlin and the White House. This is their headache.

In fact: three organisms (well, I don’t dare to designate them otherwise) come to Moscow, there they begin to be rude to women in the subway, using foul language, and then rush to beat the only man in the carriage, who decided that this muck must be stopped.

Then three of these cowards rush to run, one tries to portray something with a knife, the second sprays a teardrop from a spray can at the police. And, by the way, the father of this "hero", if you believe Steshin (why not believe him?), Who published everything on his Telegram channel, does not see anything like that in the fact that his child splashed from a can "in red".

The Russian policeman is "red". And what are these? Greens? We passed, we passed. In the very "Republic of Ichkeria". There were also "greens" who drank a lot of the red blood of the Russians.

Everyone frightens us with this very article 282. In Russia, it turns out strangely, if a boor of any nationality behaves as he pleases, then these are “national traditions”. And if a Russian tries to express his displeasure, then he immediately gets an article "for inciting." The results of such a policy will be a little lower, but for now - I'll take a chance. The foreign agents will not be sent further anyway.

So gentlemen, deputies, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the RG and others - isn't it time to think about what is happening in Russia? Or does everything suit you? Are you satisfied that such scoundrels inspired by correct upbringing come to the country and behave like that?

When the country is ashamed. Farce performed by the authorities

Moreover, having excellent relations with representatives of many peoples inhabiting Dagestan, I perfectly imagine that if these three scoundrels dared to portray something like that in Makhachkala or Grozny, they would have been killed on the bus. And they would be finished off by domestic ones, who would have brought the carcasses of these freaks, because it would be a shame for the whole village.

And in Russia it is possible. Russia is a different country, you can behave there ... And how do they behave? As "masters of life." And it just needs to be stopped.

Unfortunately, the Kremlin does not see anything like that in the incident. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that what happened is not a reason to talk about interethnic tensions: “We are talking about scum, about hooligans, no matter what nationality they are. It is very gratifying that they were quickly detained, that now all the necessary procedural actions in relation to them, the investigation will be carried out. "

I agree with Peskov. There is no interethnic tension, it is the newcomers who strain Russian cities.

Something has become a lot of cases involving "hooligans and scum" from the south. The nuts are clearly loose. All these public demonstrations, especially with shooting, all these "national traditions" should be driven back to where they really are traditions. And in Russia they (traditions) have nothing to do. As well as such “gifts” from the “greens” from the south of our country.

And this is not incitement to ethnic conflicts. Judging by what is being said aloud, this very nationalism exists and is successfully cultivated by people from those very southern republics. Especially their younger generation, like this, with thin beards, who seriously believe that the rest of Russia is something like a shopping and entertainment center.

I really hope that the parents of these repeat offenders (two have articles for theft, the third for causing moderate harm) will not have enough money to hush up the case and Khanmagomedov (especially him), Musalaev and Zalibekov will go to places of imprisonment for a long time.

By the way, this does not absolve the villains from paying for Kovalev's treatment and all kinds of compensation.

2. The problem of real men


Here, of course, just longing and sadness. It is very hard to believe that Kovalev was the only man in the subway car. No, that was how he turned out to be the only one, plus a woman turned out to be a man who was not afraid to press the panic button and then show the police to the criminals.

More precisely, it is hard to believe that Roman was alone in the car. I'll get better again, there must have been organisms showing secondary male sex characteristics. But those who did not dare to act in accordance with the primary ones. Still, the primary ones are not the genitals and not the beards. These are concepts of honor, conscience and dignity.

It so happened that Kovalev was alone. It is sad. This is reminiscent of European countries where (as the German examples have already shown) no one will care deeply about any of your problems.

Costs of Democracy ...

In general, it is a disgrace for the entire nation. And for Dagestan, where such criminals, jackals were raised, and for the rapidly degrading morally degrading population of Russia. Not a single nightmare would have dreamed that in the subway car where this crime took place, the maximum that the passengers were able to do was to film everything on their phones. From which, by the way, it would be more correct to call the police. Even so.

Are we getting smaller, gentlemen and comrades? Yes, we are smaller.

3. The problem of the authorities


But what our authorities are doing just already translates the situation into the category of a complete farce.

The only thing in whose address I would like to say a couple of warm words is in the direction of the police officers. They arrived promptly, worked well, neutralized, detained, delivered. Worthy of gratitude, worthy of praise. When police officers work as they should and above that - why not mention?

Then the "development of the situation" began. And then, for some reason, the authorities began to do something out of the ordinary. Some strange movements began and the creation of a national hero from Kovalev.

Bastrykin says that the Investigative Committee will award Kovalev and the woman who called the police with her departmental medals. Good. Has the right to.

The Voronezh regional government also said that it would reward Kovalev on behalf of the governor and assist in rehabilitation. Good. Quite.

Moscow Mayor Sobyanin ordered to give Kovalev 2 million rubles. I also decided to become good.

Now, if Sobyanin gave money out of his pocket, it would be commendable. But the fact that he manages the budget in this way is very strange. Being good at someone else's expense is very beneficial for your wallet. And at the expense of the budget ...

For some reason, volunteers immediately came to my mind, who at their own expense and in their cars take doctors to patients. The state does not have the money for this, there is not enough ambulances, there is not enough of everything. Therefore, people take upon themselves the affairs that the state MUST do.

An interesting situation: the volunteers do not have money for gasoline, but it is easy for Sobyanin to show off in front of the cameras as a benefactor.

I am not at all opposed to Kovalev being awarded and celebrated. But: why two million? Not five? Not ten? Not an apartment in Moscow City? Somehow all this does not look very clear.

Farther. The Liberal Democratic Party of the Voronezh region dumped the initiative that Kovalev should be made an honorary citizen of the Voronezh region.

This, excuse me, is already some kind of bacchanalia.

If you read the statute of this title, it says that “The title of Honorary Citizen of the Voronezh Region is awarded for special merits in public and state activities, an outstanding contribution to the development of science, culture, production, other activities that contribute to the comprehensive development of the Voronezh Region and the Russian Federation, the growth of the population's well-being, increase the popularity and authority of the region in Russia and abroad.

The title of Honorary Citizen of the Voronezh Region can be awarded to soldiers of the army and fleet, law enforcement officers who have shown courage and heroism in the performance of their official duty. "


But in general, of course, after the 20-year-old athlete became an honorary citizen of Voronezh this year, what are we talking about?

Then the question arises: why waste time on trifles, gentlemen? Why is Kovalev not drawn to the Hero of Russia? We are also awarded this award in a very peculiar way.

Well, for less significant feats there are medals of the order and the Order of Merit itself. True, it is more for singers and rappers, but is it not an option?

Why, excuse me, are people who rushed to get passengers out of an exploded bus worse than a singer or a loser minister? Yes, they are better, they really saved people. They did not try, but saved.

It's generally interesting in our country. “I wanted to save, but I didn't save” - Hero of Russia. Spas, but "not in the cage" - and so you will live. With the knowledge that you are human.

So in the wake of all this madness, the idea is quite good for itself. The way the authorities rushed at Kovalev makes it possible to come up with something different.

In general, doing good and right deeds is beautiful and worthy of a person and a citizen in the best sense of the word. But to promote the story of Kovalev in this way is overkill in all respects. I understand that he is a very good and decent guy, and it will not spoil him. But what is going on around Roman itself, I cannot call it anything other than a farce.

Glory to the circumstances, in Russia there are thousands of no less worthy people who help the sick and disabled, children, animals, resist scum, help save people in accidents and disasters, look for soldiers of that war, and so on ad infinitum.

And for the most part, these people do their business not for awards and money. Namely, because they are People with a capital letter. And how are they worse?

Heroes in our country have always been able to make. Especially in difficult times. Today's times cannot be called simple, but this is absolutely no reason for such "operations" to create heroes. Our authorities have a problem: there are few good ideas and even fewer methods for their implementation. And this, unfortunately, is sad.

The fact that the authorities are dancing around Roman Kovalev will definitely not bring a positive result. Those who have conscience and honor, they will act according to their principles, completely oblivious to money and rewards. And whoever doesn't have them - so you can't force them to do something like that for money. And they will get rewards for themselves if they wish and without moral and physical efforts. To do this, you need to have money and a few connections.

Not the most beautiful layout. Especially if you really understand that not every worthy person will receive two million. And it's not even worth talking about awards, here in general "let this cup pass me by ...".
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  1. Bez 310
    Bez 310 13 October 2021 11: 10
    +60
    It's hard not to agree.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 11: 16
      +102
      With what exactly. That there were no real men in the carriage? Skoromorokhov, squealing about absent men, lives in his own pink world. There you can somehow calm down three drunken swaggering degenerates with knives so that no one even gets hurt and everything will end quietly and peacefully, and everyone will remain friends. But what should have been done in this situation? Yes, exactly the same as, in the end, and did - press the button for communication with the driver and call the police to the car. This is what solved the problem. Not the intercession of the unimaginative guy who got in touch with who was kicked unchecked on the floor of the van, but the police called on the button, who detained the degenerates. Only now they called her, for some reason, after the beating. But it was necessary right away. Not to climb with useless remarks to the degenerates, but to call specialists in communication with these animals. Even if they figure it out, this is their job, they are paid for it from taxes. Then everything would have happened exactly the same, but the guy would not have been hurt. Let me remind you that the degenerate, when detained by the police, took out a knife. And if a police officer has a service certificate and can shoot such a creature within the framework of the law, like a mad dog, then a citizen cannot do this. A citizen is likely to be slaughtered like a pig.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 13 October 2021 11: 21
        +37
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        With what exactly.

        With the content of the article.
        I completely agree with the author.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 13 October 2021 11: 26
          +64
          Quote: Bez 310
          I completely agree with the author.

          And I'm not really, because the rewarding of Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed. At least without this fear.
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 13 October 2021 11: 31
            +52
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            this is generally a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed.

            What is needed is not signals, but intelligible laws.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 13 October 2021 11: 34
              +50
              Quote: Bez 310
              What is needed is not signals, but intelligible laws.

              It is more important here that the current laws are not harmed, because the notorious article 282 could very easily be applied to this case, moreover, against Kovalev, in defense of these organisms.
              1. Yngvar
                Yngvar 13 October 2021 11: 58
                +23
                With a clearly limited habitat! "Blacks live in Africa". ... the stanzas live in ... the camp!
                After "perestroika" suddenly all whites became black, and vice versa! Nonsense!
                1. vindigo
                  vindigo 13 October 2021 12: 17
                  +2
                  They usually indicate that Russians also live in the stans. What will happen to them?
                  1. Yngvar
                    Yngvar 13 October 2021 12: 24
                    +30
                    There was little left, the rest, who did not have time to escape, were cut out ... Citizenship to the Slavs in an accelerated manner (from the near abroad), or resettled to Russian-speaking territories, having previously "cleaned" from the "guests" ... stanzas!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 13 October 2021 16: 53
                      +41
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      It is more important here that the current laws are not harmed, because the notorious article 282 could very easily be applied to this case, moreover, against Kovalev, in defense of these organisms.
                      I regard this case precisely as an "Overton window" in the direction of an anti-Russophobic solution to the Russian question in Russia. Namely.

                      The Russian question in Russia has existed since 1917, when the Bolsheviks - Leninists-Trotskyists - legally transferred state power and privileges over the Russian people to the petty-bourgeois chauvinists of the national minorities of the tsarist outskirts during the administrative-territorial division of Soviet Russia on the basis of the so-called. "titular" nationalities.
                      Not only did this division of territories by nationality worked as a time bomb for the collapse of the USSR in 1991, and tolerant humiliation of the state of the forming Russian majority of the country's population by the authorities continues to this day in the historically primordial Russian territory of their residence by alien representatives of national minorities!
                      It is not for nothing that Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is conventionally called the "RUSSIAN" article. Because it is only Russians who are imprisoned on it on national grounds, and insults, murders and fights against Russians from the side of the nat. minorities, the authorities qualify the radical chauvinists of national minorities as just excesses not on Russophobic interethnic grounds, but simply on the basis of hooligan everyday life.

                      This removal from under the feet of the Russians of their state was facilitated and facilitated by the removal of the column "nationality" in the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. Namely.

                      There are 200 nationalities in the Russian Federation. At the same time, in 1995, 1 nationality - Russians - in the Russian Federation accounted for about 83% of the total Russian population, and the remaining 199 nationalities - only 13% of the population. According to the norms of international law with such a quantitative ratio by nationality Russia is actually a MONO state of the Russian people
                      However, now - thanks to the discriminatory national policy of the authorities - the share of Russians has decreased, according to unofficial data, from 83% to 74-75% and continues to decline.
                      Why was the "nationality" column removed from Russian passports under Yeltsin in 1992?that appeared in the Soviet passport in 1932? For further destruction of Russia as a national Russian state and Russian civilization!
                      It is noteworthy that the associate of the banker Borovoy, the pro-Western democrat Khakamada - with her Japanese roots - at that time demagogically advocated the abolition of the "nationality" column in the Russian passport, stating that otherwise she, as a Japanese woman among Russians, would never come to the top of power in the country - Russia. She was just casting a shadow over the fence.
                      But in general then, in order to suppress national self-identification and historical civic consciousness precisely among the Russians as a historically state of the forming Russian people in favor of other countries and peoples!
                      Unfortunately, it already comes to the point that the Central Bank of Russia said that the Russian people, as such, in the country generally DOESN'T and the Central Bank will not allocate money for its ethnic development, contrary to the decree of the government of the Russian Federation. And who, in the national ethnic sense, Nabiulina, Siluanov, Kudrin, Gref, Ulyukaev and others are representatives of the financial and economic government block in our country? To whom and for what do they allocate finance for development?

                      In 2020, proposals have already been made about the need to return the "nationality" column to the Russian passport. This should be supported as the next "Overton window" to preserve the Russian state as such ..
                      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                        Andrei Nikolaevich 13 October 2021 20: 03
                        +20
                        Tatyana, great comment! Bravo! I join. On my own behalf, I will add that the Union was destroyed by the national elites, who grew up on the wealth of resources of Russia and poverty, of the Russian people.
                      2. aleks neym_2
                        aleks neym_2 13 October 2021 22: 04
                        +6
                        It is a pity that my friends (veterans of Chechnya) were not there ... "I swear, they would lick the floor with tongues" ... and they would tell their relatives in the fifth knee: do not go with your charter to someone else's monastery. And their MOTHER IS NOW "Proud" of the act of their "proud eagles" (ugh) ... SHAME, BUT THERE, WHERE THEY ARE FROM, STAND UP EVERYTHING ... for the first time, or something ... nobody touches their MOM ...
                      3. Kasym
                        Kasym 13 October 2021 22: 34
                        +4
                        Alex, don't get excited. I saw such "thugs" even in Almaty and ... they drove over and then in the zone I had to answer for the market. The healthy "Czech" swore to Allah that he wanted to teach the unbeliever the truth - he himself had to answer in such a way that even the local Vainakhs turned away.
                        It upsets me that there were no normal MEN around. hi
                      4. aleks neym_2
                        aleks neym_2 13 October 2021 22: 49
                        -1
                        That is the whole trouble of our time: if something happens, there is NO REAL HUSBAND, and there is a whole crowd of freeloaders filming on vidio ... and they are glad that they get likes ... disgusting ...
                    2. shtatsov
                      shtatsov 13 October 2021 23: 13
                      +18
                      Most likely your friends would sit down. Unfortunately, this is how the current system works! Even if a policeman, when threatened with a knife, did not use a weapon, knowing full well how it would end for him! There are a lot of examples! In the recent past, an American policeman would simply shoot in this situation! And it would be fully protected by law.
                    3. aleks neym_2
                      aleks neym_2 13 October 2021 23: 37
                      -2
                      "Sat down" is in what sense? As the company commander used to say: they did not catch - I was not AWOL ... and ours left any patrol ...
                    4. shtatsov
                      shtatsov 13 October 2021 23: 39
                      +1
                      it is still necessary to slip out of the car and from the subway, these freaks did not succeed!
                    5. aleks neym_2
                      aleks neym_2 13 October 2021 23: 47
                      0
                      Do not confuse "ours" and "dzegs", although we taught them, at one time in Afghanistan (they took them there with such an appearance), Chechnya is an indicator ...
                  2. ivan2022
                    ivan2022 18 October 2021 12: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: aleks neym_2
                    "Sat down" is in what sense? As the company commander used to say: they did not catch - I was not AWOL ... and ours left any patrol ...

                    Oh, what horsemen!
                    In an equal situation, the Russian police and the Russian court. he will put you in jail and let them go. In any case, it will be on their side.

                    And you will be hiding like bunnies from. their own in their own country. Moreover, you will be proud of it. But God forbid you get into their country from your colony.
            2. ivan2022
              ivan2022 15 October 2021 07: 17
              +3
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Tatyana, great comment! Bravo! I join. On my own behalf, I will add that the Union was destroyed by the national elites, who grew up on the wealth of resources of Russia and poverty, of the Russian people.

              Congratulations. The old man Aloizych wrote about the same thing in his work back in 1924. "My struggle" is banned in Russia so that no complete resemblance can be seen!

              For from here Aloizych, almost 100 years ago, makes the logical second step of the two-move, which the "Russian patriots" have not yet thought of: "The people who allow this on themselves cannot be considered full-fledged." HE NEEDS EXTERNAL. MANAGEMENT.

              Or do you comment on the poor poor Russian. Did you write it deliberately?
          2. businessv
            businessv 14 October 2021 18: 49
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            Why under Yeltsin in 1992 was removed from Russian passports the column "nationality

            ... and why didn’t they remove EBN himself ?! If he himself is no longer there, then at least this shameful pillar of Russia, called "YELTSIN-CENTER"! Great post, thanks Tatiana!
          3. ivan2022
            ivan2022 18 October 2021 07: 30
            -1
            Quote: businessv
            Quote: Tatiana
            Why under Yeltsin in 1992 was removed from Russian passports the column "nationality

            ... and why didn’t they remove EBN himself ?! If he himself is no longer there, then at least this shameful pillar of Russia, called "YELTSIN-CENTER"! Great post, thanks Tatiana!


            They were not removed because the Russian people voted for Yeltsin 2 times and there were no mass protests against this among the Russian people. We did it right.

            If it was "removed" - would you start shouting now why it was removed?

            You - the descendants of serfs - do not even think that "to clean up" or "not to clean up" - you must, you yourself!

            You both agree and disagree with the laws of the State, and what is actually happening in your minds, you yourself do not understand and do not try to understand.
          4. businessv
            businessv 20 October 2021 21: 40
            -1
            Quote: ivan2022
            You - the descendants of serfs - do not even think that "to clean up" or "not to clean up" - you must, you yourself!
            Well, you, a descendant of blue-blooded personalities, should know exactly how these or those laws are coordinated in our state. wink Although, judging by the fasting, literacy and knowledge of life you are endowed with so-so, or rather, besides ambitions, God has not been worthy to endow you with anything else.
            They were not removed because the Russian people voted for Yeltsin 2 times and there were no mass protests against this among the Russian people.
            Russian people, or is it Russian? And if only, if only, then mushrooms would grow in your mouth! (c) Are you trying to wank, or are you just talking nonsense without a rudder and without sails, ranting about the dashing 90s? laughing Do not bother to answer, you are not interesting to me, as well as your opinion. hi
    2. Hypertension
      Hypertension 13 October 2021 17: 41
      +13
      Quote: Yngvar
      or relocate to Russian-speaking territories, having previously "cleaned" from the "guests" ... the stanzas!

      "This has never happened, and now again ..." (c) Again southerners, again in the subway. The police are sluggish ...
      In the Moscow metro, there was another fuss between native Muscovites and ordinary metro passengers.
      According to passengers, the bearded men began to molest the young ladies, but this time there were much more people in the carriage, who, apparently, were inspired by Roman's act and stood up to protect the women.

      1. Thompson
        Thompson 14 October 2021 10: 03
        +14
        It's all the fault of the accompanying police.
        How people at peaceful demonstrations to beat up-heroes, how to reason with Caucasians, stand like sheep crumpled! So they are greyhound.
      2. isv000
        isv000 14 October 2021 13: 23
        +2
        Quote: Hyperion
        "This has never happened, and now again ..." (c) Again southerners, again in the subway. The police are sluggish ...

        To say sluggishly is to say nothing ... They piled them in their pants and are just waiting for the problem to go away by itself!
      3. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 18 October 2021 06: 50
        +4
        Since the 90s, the same answer has been characteristic of the police-police:
        - Hail to the police, a man is being killed here!
        - Is there a corpse?
        “They haven’t been killed yet.
        - The corpse will come!
        Yes, unfortunately Rosgvardia and the police are now protecting only the authorities, the oligarchs and their children, while ordinary citizens are thrown under the knives of young and greyhound Caucasians and must solve their problems themselves. Here is Kadyrov: he just learned that somewhere abroad the Chechens were detained or arrested - he immediately reacts or flies himself. He keeps the brand that protects his own. And our grandfather - only oinky, spiritual bonds ... but if anything, then the Russian peasant who dared to defend himself () if he somehow succeeded and the Caucasians were punished) will sit down for inciting hatred. When, on the contrary, this is the norm already!
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 13 October 2021 17: 52
    +10
    Quote: vindigo
    They usually indicate that in -stan

    Speaking of -stans ...
    300 thousand guest workers who were previously expelled for various violations will be allowed to return to Russia

    “Through rather long and difficult negotiations, we managed to reach an agreement, and 150 thousand citizens of Tajikistan and 150 thousand citizens of Uzbekistan were amnestied,” said Vadim Kozhenov, president of the All-Russian public organization Federation of Migrants of Russia, without explaining what negotiations he had in mind.

    1. andybuts
      andybuts 18 October 2021 14: 28
      0
      Well, this, business needs cheap labor, that there is some kind of offense. Something seems to me that among these amnestied there will not be those who were expelled because of offenses related to the struggle with the employer for their rights as an employee.
  • Cat Kuzya
    Cat Kuzya 14 October 2021 10: 25
    +1
    Because of the anti-Russian rhetoric and the inaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry, people are wiping their feet about Russia and Russians everywhere. This has already become a tradition. For example, look at where the boarding of flights to Russia is carried out at different airports in Europe - in the most distant and inconvenient places. This is just a small example.
  • sifgame
    sifgame 13 October 2021 14: 36
    +5
    They are too radical and offer something that is not feasible in modern reality. I.V. Stalin could do that. It is necessary to act in other ways, public censure and humiliating apologies. Moreover, so that both parents and relatives apologize, they have developed and strong family relations like nowhere else, so let them bear responsibility for their idiots. that's something like this and this is just what the taxi driver was not paid for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2rEsTrWRUA&t=376s
    1. sifgame
      sifgame 13 October 2021 14: 40
      +2
      Let them educate adults if they could not bring up children and they must do it themselves, and not only the RF IC.
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 13 October 2021 15: 02
    +1
    Quote: Yngvar
    With a clearly limited habitat!

    Constitution of the Russian Federation, article 27:
    1. Everyone who is lawfully in the territory of the Russian Federation has the right to freely move around, choose the place of residence and residence.

    What the fuck is "arial"? Do you even know that.
    Quote: Yngvar
    ... stanzas
    for all our quite understandable dislike for them, nevertheless, they are also citizens of the Russian Federation who have the same constitutional rights as you (no matter what nationality you are)
    1. Yngvar
      Yngvar 13 October 2021 17: 09
      +13
      Dear, read Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and especially (comments) in the practice of its application! I suppose that you will have some doubts about the equality of citizens of the Russian Federation in constitutional rights! "Arial" agrees, was mistaken ... The working day is very stressful, and lunch is short!
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 13 October 2021 20: 08
        +1
        Right. I myself read the article and comments. And the same thought crept in. As for the Dagestanis: I served with them, urgent. A wonderful, sincere people. Once you do them a kindness, they will not forget and they will treat you like a brother. But where do these three creatures come from, I don’t understand?
        1. Yngvar
          Yngvar 14 October 2021 05: 17
          +10
          This is exactly what "came down from the mountains"! I myself had to live in the Asian republics, serve with people of different nationalities, mostly normal people! But there were also those who were literally "caught" in the villages for service in the ranks of the SA, who had no idea at all about the culture as a whole, living by their own tribal rules. Once in another social environment, we see how - "everything is possible here"! Because there is no supervising "elder" ... And Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (anti-Russian) protects them in this! M.G. Delyagin: "Russia is not for Russians!"
        2. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 14 October 2021 08: 44
          +1
          Yngvar, someone has already "minus" you. But don't mind. I, too, have experience of communicating with Caucasians, just like you. I hope that fellow countrymen will explain to these three creatures, "intelligibly" how to behave.
          And Article 282 must be revised ... But wisely ...
        3. Yngvar
          Yngvar 14 October 2021 11: 26
          +3
          Thanks for the support! "Minus" does not affect the opinion! And yes, I agree, each nation has its own culture, which disapproves of such actions on the part of individual individuals!
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 13 October 2021 17: 18
    +17
    Quote: Ashes of Klaas
    for all our quite understandable dislike for them, nevertheless, they are also citizens of the Russian Federation who have the same constitutional rights as you (no matter what nationality you are)

    The question is as follows. Do they consider you and me their fellow citizens? Do they consider themselves citizens of Russia? I will answer. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that they consider themselves superior, more significant than the citizens of the Russian Federation of different nationalities. That means they do not consider themselves citizens of Russia. And finally, the age-old question. What to do ?
  • Dmitry Bragin
    Dmitry Bragin 14 October 2021 09: 21
    +6
    Ermolov is not enough, he put it in place right away, they were afraid of him like fire
  • vlad106
    vlad106 15 October 2021 18: 42
    +1
    Real Dagestanis are very friendly and good people. More precisely, the peoples. There are more than 30 of them.
    And these criminals are not Dagestanis, but just scum.
    Well, the citizens in the car could really take tough measures against the scum
  • askort154
    askort154 13 October 2021 13: 00
    +14
    Bez 310 ....We need not signals, but intelligible laws.

    The laws of the sea! Every year the Duma proudly reports on the adoption of hundreds of laws. And to the point. They don't work at all.
    Rather, they work only on a "signal" from above.
    1. ivan2022
      ivan2022 14 October 2021 08: 21
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Every year the Duma proudly reports on the adoption of hundreds of laws. And to the point. They don't work at all.


      This is a false trick, replacing the phrase: "the population for 1000 years has not learned as a skill that the laws must be obeyed." The law is obeyed - this is not a vacuum cleaner that should work independently of you. And the Dagestanis have at least learned that their ancestral laws must be obeyed. This gives them a huge advantage over the Russians.

      Don't you find that you are very similar to the typical Nekrasovian "peasant-truth-seeker"? In any nation, there is as much law and justice as it can protect, law and justice do not grow on the bushes. It is not necessary to "search" for it.

      If “the laws do not work,” we must remember that what the “state-forming people” is, so is the state on which it is customary for us to “hang all the dogs”. In other countries, laws work with other "state-forming" ones. Otherwise, human civilization would not exist.
    2. ivan2022
      ivan2022 14 October 2021 08: 41
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      The laws of the sea! .... And to the point. They don't work at all.

      Gentlemen! But this is the most curious mass property of our compatriots. Do adults seem to be convinced that "laws should work" by themselves? Like this ? After all, everything is determined in essence - by the tradition of society. In Japan, a minister caught in a bribe shoots himself in the forehead. In Russia, in 1993, the supreme body of power is shot in a completely bandit manner, and the people elect the initiator of the shooting, for the second time as President and there are no popular protests!

      We sat on sofas and watched those who represent the Law perish. This is despite the fact that the State Duma, despised by gentlemen like "askort154", in early 1996 took the liberty and adopted a resolution according to which Yeltsin should be considered a criminal under the article "Treason to the Motherland", and his "Belovezhsky agreement" - not legal ..... How can any laws "work" in such a society? Such a society is defenseless against anyone who "descended from the mountains" or "ascended from the steppes." This is all logical and even fair.
  • Andrey Chizhevsky
    Andrey Chizhevsky 13 October 2021 14: 34
    +11
    I would like a clear implementation of the laws And so - the author is right. And the problem begins with upbringing. If the father of one of these "bodies" believes that an attack on a law enforcement officer is normal - you need to have a couple or three questions for him.
  • Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 13 October 2021 14: 40
    +17
    Not laws, we have more than enough intelligible laws, but actions.
    The actions of the authorities, and the authorities are formidable and uncompromising towards "their own", weak-willed and tolerant towards "outsiders."
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 13 October 2021 15: 05
    +7
    Quote: Bez 310
    What is needed is not signals, but intelligible laws.

    Now the new State Duma will go into a legislative rage, wait.
  • ivan2022
    ivan2022 14 October 2021 08: 00
    +2
    Quote: Bez 310
    What is needed is not signals, but intelligible laws.

    Absolutely right ! Instead of specific laws and orders, these "signals" have been bothering us for 30 years already.
  • Evil troll
    Evil troll 13 October 2021 11: 38
    +6
    I think so. Small but important precedents are being created.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 October 2021 13: 51
      +4
      Quote: Angry Troll
      I think so. Small but important precedents are being created.

      exactly! The authorities took care of educating the people, began to show what is good and what is bad, even something unusual. For me, it's better to create a system out of this. The age is informational now, everything is done through the media.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 13 October 2021 12: 10
    +9
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And I'm not really, because the rewarding of Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed. At least without this fear.

    If Kovalev had beaten them to death ... and would have been a hero, yes ... that would have been a signal ... But in general, they beat him to a pulp ... and the authorities, how to get out of this situation ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 12: 17
      +58
      Quote: Svarog

      If Kovalev had beaten them to death ... and would have been a hero, yes ..

      What does it matter, if Kovalev had an overwhelming personal level, he was engaged in hand-to-hand combat from the nursery and followed the advice of our president "if a fight is inevitable, you must hit first," then he would have killed all three. Naturally, if the degenerates did not have time to get the knives and he is wildly lucky. A moment later, in real life, he hears how the most active passenger, 10 seconds ago calling out to the men, is already calling the driver and demanding an outfit. And not on the noisy ones, but on him. And those who demanded protection from the uncle, after a moment, amicably demand that he be put in prison. Because they thought that he would solve everything somehow peacefully, calmly and with a kind conversation. And he, a maniac and a sadist, beat these young guys intolerantly with his fists. After that, Kovalev was detained, they watched the recording from the cameras and it turns out that no one touched him with a finger, and he, out of the blue, put three guys who peacefully came to study and went home from the institute. And if the cops do not have time to close Kovalev in the pre-trial detention center, 20 tinted Prior will be waiting for him near the police station.
      Exactly. As a rule, people who themselves were engaged in this exclusively in theory advise to portray Don Quixote. Because, as in practice, Don Quixotes either look like imbeciles, or sit in prison, or lie in a cemetery. I called the police, waited, testified - your civic duty has been fulfilled.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 13 October 2021 12: 22
        0
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        What's the matter

        You did not understand the essence of my comment ..
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 13 October 2021 17: 26
        +19
        Do not forget about all sorts of fellow countrymen of these uryls, residents of auls and mountain pastures .. As a rule, then this flock, they find a person and in a crowd, a flock make a disabled person, or beaten to death. I remember from the army and had to deal with them in life .. If you encountered them, you need to kill. Which is not an option.
        1. frruc
          frruc 13 October 2021 19: 24
          +14
          I am in favor of showing these freaks with goatee beards on television from the beginning of the investigation to being transported to places of deprivation. Let them show where they are from and their parents. What a shame, ugh.
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 14 October 2021 00: 41
          +13
          Quote: 30 vis
          Do not forget about all sorts of fellow countrymen of these uryls, inhabitants of auls and mountain pastures .. As a rule, then this flock, they find a person and in a crowd, a flock make a disabled person, or beaten to death ...

          This is because the "highlanders" do not respect the country and are not afraid of the system. We got used to the fact that everything can be sorted out, with dough, connections, threats, violence.
          Moreover, this situation is not unique only for Russia.
          For example, Israel itself has its own "highlanders", these are local Arabs and Bedouins. Moreover, they are so "wild" for the most part that the Russian "highlanders" by their side are just an example of civilization, tolerance and obedience to the law.
          And nevertheless, they do not allow themselves to be bullied against the "titular" nation, and even more so "to make a person disabled" in the event of a conflict and even a fight.
          And this is not because the Israelis are very cool of themselves, but because the system punishes this. ruthless, revealing and inevitable.
          The system must be able to make all greyhounds, with the spinal cord to remember who is in the house real master.
      3. Aag
        Aag 13 October 2021 17: 43
        +7
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Quote: Svarog

        If Kovalev had beaten them to death ... and would have been a hero, yes ..

        What does it matter, if Kovalev had an overwhelming personal level, he was engaged in hand-to-hand combat from the nursery and followed the advice of our president "if a fight is inevitable, you must hit first," then he would have killed all three. Naturally, if the degenerates did not have time to get the knives and he is wildly lucky. A moment later, in real life, he hears how the most active passenger, 10 seconds ago calling out to the men, is already calling the driver and demanding an outfit. And not on the noisy ones, but on him. And those who demanded protection from the uncle, after a moment, amicably demand that he be put in prison. Because they thought that he would solve everything somehow peacefully, calmly and with a kind conversation. And he, a maniac and a sadist, beat these young guys intolerantly with his fists. After that, Kovalev was detained, they watched the recording from the cameras and it turns out that no one touched him with a finger, and he, out of the blue, put three guys who peacefully came to study and went home from the institute. And if the cops do not have time to close Kovalev in the pre-trial detention center, 20 tinted Prior will be waiting for him near the police station.
        Exactly. As a rule, people who themselves were engaged in this exclusively in theory advise to portray Don Quixote. Because, as in practice, Don Quixotes either look like imbeciles, or sit in prison, or lie in a cemetery. I called the police, waited, testified - your civic duty has been fulfilled.

        "... if Kovalev had an off-scale personal level, he would hand-to-hand from the nursery and follow the advice of our president" if a fight is inevitable, you must hit first, "..."
        Stop, stop, stop !!! Following your logic (and the established, unfortunately for my, judicial practice, the first question of the judge (at the trial), would sound in the context: "Why didn't you inform the Law Enforcement Agencies ?!" ..
        Personally, it infuriates me !! ... Or I fantasized something, I always thought that every citizen has the right, is OBLIGED, to take measures to suppress illegal actions. Employees of power structures, to a special extent.
        What is wrong, let the lawyers correct!
        1. Aag
          Aag 13 October 2021 18: 12
          +5
          Quote: AAG
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Quote: Svarog

          If Kovalev had beaten them to death ... and would have been a hero, yes ..

          What does it matter, if Kovalev had an overwhelming personal level, he was engaged in hand-to-hand combat from the nursery and followed the advice of our president "if a fight is inevitable, you must hit first," then he would have killed all three. Naturally, if the degenerates did not have time to get the knives and he is wildly lucky. A moment later, in real life, he hears how the most active passenger, 10 seconds ago calling out to the men, is already calling the driver and demanding an outfit. And not on the noisy ones, but on him. And those who demanded protection from the uncle, after a moment, amicably demand that he be put in prison. Because they thought that he would solve everything somehow peacefully, calmly and with a kind conversation. And he, a maniac and a sadist, beat these young guys intolerantly with his fists. After that, Kovalev was detained, they watched the recording from the cameras and it turns out that no one touched him with a finger, and he, out of the blue, put three guys who peacefully came to study and went home from the institute. And if the cops do not have time to close Kovalev in the pre-trial detention center, 20 tinted Prior will be waiting for him near the police station.
          Exactly. As a rule, people who themselves were engaged in this exclusively in theory advise to portray Don Quixote. Because, as in practice, Don Quixotes either look like imbeciles, or sit in prison, or lie in a cemetery. I called the police, waited, testified - your civic duty has been fulfilled.

          "... if Kovalev had an off-scale personal level, he would hand-to-hand from the nursery and follow the advice of our president" if a fight is inevitable, you must hit first, "..."
          Stop, stop, stop !!! Following your logic (and the established, unfortunately for my, judicial practice, the first question of the judge (at the trial), would sound in the context: "Why didn't you inform the Law Enforcement Agencies ?!" ..
          Personally, it infuriates me !! ... Or I fantasized something, I always thought that every citizen has the right, is OBLIGED, to take measures to suppress illegal actions. Employees of power structures, to a special extent.
          What is wrong, let the lawyers correct!


          In the sequel ... (sorry, comrades, a lot is lost from the smartphone, therefore, in stages ...
          ... The problem is not that it is ripe, it has already broken through! In different regions, to varying degrees ... Its silence by the authorities can only be explained by personal interest ...
          I don’t know, as members of the respected VO community, but for other interests (automotive), I was suddenly destined to be on another “forum” (resource, platform ...) ...
          ... Hmmm ... Excuse me! ... After What, and How they write ... Young immigrants from the post-Soviet ... and what to do with our women ...
          Nope, Solovyov, and the whole clique, like, does not see this ... That's the whole alignment of the "Russian world", "national" policy ...
          Who is entitled to ... (((
          I will try to answer well-reasoned objections (with the connection not Ice ...). hi
      4. Million
        Million 13 October 2021 18: 22
        +2
        Text copied from the Publicist)
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 October 2021 13: 59
      +15
      Quote: Svarog
      . and the authorities, how to get out of this situation.

      our government is not particularly sentimental. I have created a reputation for myself - “When they kill you, then come”, people are accustomed to the fact that if you answer the bully with dignity, they can jail. I am only happy with this precedent. If only he was not alone, I want more laughing
  • Kronos
    Kronos 13 October 2021 12: 13
    +4
    You can not-https: //www.mk.ru/politics/2021/10/12/vlasti-rossii-razreshili-vernutsya-300-tysyacham-gastarbayterovpravonarushiteley.html
    The Russian authorities allowed to return 300 thousand migrant workers offenders
    1. gsev
      gsev 13 October 2021 17: 16
      -8
      Quote: Kronos
      The Russian authorities allowed to return 300 thousand migrant workers offenders

      There is a plant in the Ryazan region. Local residents cannot accept that their fellow villager earns more than an order of magnitude more. They go to the plant to work when finances are completely pressed, and when they save up fat, they defiantly go into a binge, showing that they are not bastard either. Uzbeks adequately understand their abilities and perform work relatively stably without riots and strikes. Without them, the factory will stop or become unprofitable, the district administration will be left without taxes. In addition, a salary of 20-30 is no longer competitive against the background of Uzbek and Kazakh. It becomes extremely difficult to find Uzbek-Tajiks who agree to hunchback away from home and family. The entire banking system is tied to the construction industry, and without its effective functioning, even Gref will be unable to pay for offshore services.
      1. Elturisto
        Elturisto 13 October 2021 21: 03
        +2
        You pull the side-skirts out of the cabbage soup, the Ryazan from the pumpkin cock ...
      2. vindigo
        vindigo 13 October 2021 21: 07
        +9
        I work in an organization related to the service fleet (tugs, pilot, oil spill response). Most of the non-Russians we have are the Armenians. We do not have Tajiks, Uzbeks and proud mountaineers. All persons of Slavic nationalities (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians) work normally, no one demonstratively goes into a binge. And I know that in other organizations there are no residents of Central Asia connected with the port at all, and everything is fine, the port is working steadily.
        1. gsev
          gsev 13 October 2021 22: 38
          -1
          Quote: vindigo
          Most of the non-Russians we have are the Armenians. We do not have Tajiks, Uzbeks and proud mountaineers.

          At the Ryazan plant, there are no non-Russian engineers either, and the engineering and technical staff is staffed and has a tolerable salary for the Ryazan region. However, it is difficult for Russians to get used to working steadily as loaders. In addition, the local village became depopulated in the 1990s and is not able to provide the factory with labor simply due to the lack of men, the nearest village is 10 kilometers away. It is necessary to return those who were led by Yeltsin to advertise Klinsky to the ability to work a full shift without absenteeism.
      3. Rus18
        Rus18 13 October 2021 21: 29
        +6
        Fuck. Are you the owner of this factory? I will never believe that the average man in the street would agree to such "business ideas". Do you have children / grandchildren? Do you want their children not to understand you by reformatting into Muslims? Of course, I understand that you are gnawing at the resentment for billionaire developers making their money on gratuitous labor, but I think that the fortune and even the life of a couple of dozen of these gesheftmakers is much less valuable than 120 million Russians and the future of their children.
      4. storm
        storm 13 October 2021 22: 38
        +12
        An Uzbek should live and work in Uzbekistan and he shouldn't do in Ryazan and in Russia in general!
        We have done without them for a thousand years and now we will live !!!
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 15 October 2021 20: 13
          -4
          Nazi chtoli? Actually, somewhere in the wrong place komenty zaburilsya .. In the Russian Federation there are not enough Orthodox women of childbearing age, even just to maintain the population, the fertility pit of the "holy nineties" arrived in time. Well done guy, the right person! But actually a call to the driver or whatever the security system works, and this boy would not have been hurt and the stupid people just received a fine and a penny .... d .... whether from relatives, and not like now heroes are suffering from Muscovites.
  • mz
    mz 13 October 2021 13: 43
    +19
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    after all, rewarding Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed

    Unfortunately no. In order to resist such animals, you need to hit first, otherwise there will be a situation as in this case (the best option) or a knife under the ribs of the defender. And when the defender hits first, the aunts in the carriage will start yelling that he was the first to start, and these were good boys, you just had to talk to them and calm them down (!?). And a good man will sit down ...
    1. parma
      parma 14 October 2021 09: 04
      +3
      Quote: mz
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      after all, rewarding Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed

      Unfortunately no. In order to resist such animals, you need to hit first, otherwise there will be a situation as in this case (the best option) or a knife under the ribs of the defender. And when the defender hits first, the aunts in the carriage will start yelling that he was the first to start, and these were good boys, you just had to talk to them and calm them down (!?). And a good man will sit down ...

      The problem is that while the fight has not started, the police are not interested, because there is nothing special to show for the "animals", the maximum is a hooligan .. but here the question is - the employee needs this huge paperwork because of little things like hooliganism, especially with "children mountains "? There are a lot of difficulties with this, but the police officers already have enough problems (in Yekaterinburg, even the security officials themselves complain about the shortage of personnel, etc.), and these may turn out to be eight cousins ​​of the cleaning driver, Kadyrov, or the like + the diaspora will intervene and now a week later, an employee who arrived at the call because of uncultured (barbaric) behavior turns out to be guilty, they say, he exceeded his authority and detained innocent students, he is a racist and, in general, a “Russophobe” who encroached on the multinational bond of the state ...
      As a result: I think the state will have enough to play with multinationality ... the title nation should be prescribed in the law (maybe, what we actually have) ... no, I do not deny that there are 200+ other nationalities, that they are equal in rights, etc. , but there should not be a nat. republics and some kind of ghosts because of this ... all are equal before the law and in rights and obligations ... and for the development of national culture and identity from the budget, money should be allocated proportionally ...
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 13 October 2021 14: 06
    +12
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And I'm not really that much, because the rewarding of Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted,

    More precisely, to object to the "animals" and be beaten. For which he was awarded. Imagine a situation if he interceded and after which one of these thugs then ended up in the hospital. Now he sat down for exceeding. And it's not a fact that for this: the guys talked to the girl (they didn't beat her), and this one came up and started a fight, crippled the good guy. The diaspora would fit in for their own ...
    There are a lot of similar situations when a person who stood up for a weak person received a term. My neighbor saw a company clinging to his wife (3 people), he hit one of them in the jaw. falling on the bardyur and by morning this man died. The guy was jailed.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 13 October 2021 16: 16
      0
      Quote: Bad_gr
      My neighbor saw a company clinging to his wife (3 people), he hit one of them in the jaw. falling on the bardyur and by morning this man died. The guy was jailed.

      Wasn't that Mirzoev?
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 13 October 2021 17: 43
        0
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Wasn't that Mirzoev?
        No. This is in Sochi.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 13 October 2021 17: 11
    +11
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    After all, the rewarding of Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed.

    Wait ... There are many ways to resist. And if Kovalev had killed one of them in the heat of a fight? Would he then sit down for exceeding self-defense? It's easy with us.
    And one more thing - they mainly attract attention to the rewarding of Kovalev, and not to the punishment of the geeks. If only they would also receive "gifts" in the form of additional articles and a medal "Shame of Dagestan".
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 13 October 2021 21: 50
    +8
    And a new day brought a new scandal. How many Russians have suffered for inciting ethnic strife. They are brave only in the metro, but in court their leaders from the national diaspora will join and through bribes they will prove interethnic and regilious hostility. And this should not be allowed. This issue needs to be addressed once and everywhere.
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 October 2021 00: 05
      -7
      How many Russians have suffered for inciting ethnic strife
      On the other hand, the aggravation of interethnic strife can contribute to the collapse of Russia. And who, if not Russians, think about the fate of Russia?
      And the fate of Russia is higher and more important than the life of each of us - this is proved by the lives of our ancestors who died in various wars.
      ---
      As for the article, it is extremely difficult and inadequate to rein in, and to avoid interethnic hatred.
      And it is very necessary to avoid it - especially since there will be many more provocations and arsonists..
      So far, they try not to notice.

      This can and should be explained by the fact that now the tension in the world is approaching its climax (confrontation with the United States) and the authorities, apparently, are preparing for it, if we stand (and for this we need to avoid interethnic strife as much as possible), then we will be able to fully build relations within the country as this will be required by law, order and justice.
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 14 October 2021 07: 02
        +1
        Agree. It is no longer possible to postpone the solution of this problem, motivating it with tolerance. Played already in democracy.
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  • Thompson
    Thompson 14 October 2021 10: 00
    +3
    Where did you see the confrontation ??? There was a beating !!! Men. And there could be women. Confrontation too?
    A medal for courage should be given to a woman - she was not afraid to call the police and give evidence !!!
    And you don't want to wish that you were beaten in public, and everyone was filmed around and ... it's good if someone calls the police !!! Not the fact that you will wait and not the fact that at least a cripple or ...!
    By the way, the guy is lucky that it was in the subway ... otherwise there would have been another hangman !, ugh, ugh
  • isv000
    isv000 14 October 2021 13: 18
    +3
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And I'm not really, because the rewarding of Kovalev is actually a signal that the "animals" can be resisted without fear of being jailed. At least without this fear.

    It would be nice to collect these two million from the relatives of these animals, in favor of the state, and to fasten the thugs in full, taking into account the attack on the pents ...
  • Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 11: 44
    -4
    Quote: Bez 310
    I completely agree with the author.

    And I disagree. Skomorokhov needs to put the question differently in his publication: not "why did the peasants extinct," but "why did the smart ones extinct," regardless of gender? Why are they ready to go into conflict with the three degenerates, but not ready to press the button to communicate with the driver? There are a bunch of buttons in the car, press any button. Why hasn't anyone done this? Why, in order to press it, they first wait for the person to be kicked? Why do they howl and demand that some men solve the problem, but stubbornly refuse to call other men, who are paid for these calls? Why does the country need smart citizens, and the female reproductive organ gives birth to people like Kovalev?
    1. Bez 310
      Bez 310 13 October 2021 11: 51
      -1
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      I don’t agree.

      Your right.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 October 2021 12: 08
      +40
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Why are they ready to go into conflict with the three degenerates, but not ready to press the button to communicate with the driver? There are a bunch of buttons in the car, press any button. Why hasn't anyone done this?

      Listen, what the hell is a button?
      If there are cameras at every turn, and the subway should have been equipped with cameras in the first place! By the time the train arrived at the next station, there should already have been a reinforced police and medical outfit
      If the authorities screw people just walking past the rally or behind pictures in the network, then why the hell does it not react to a direct threat to the health and life of citizens?
      They don’t regret the dough to protect themselves from the government’s beloved government, they cut out huge money from the budget for security officials, thousands and thousands of riot police and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian Guard, “cosmonauts” are countless, everyone trains, they carry armored helmets with shields, wave a club, and touch the citizen in a criminal situation, Duc everything goes somehow wrong. In general, plebeians must save themselves.
      And if the guy had been beaten to death, they would have given a hero and threw the inconsolable mother on a "good memory".
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 12: 12
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez

        Listen, what the hell is a button? If there are cameras at every turn, and the subway had to be equipped with cameras in the first place! By the time the train arrived at the next station, there should have already been a reinforced outfit of police officers and doctors.

        If you do not understand that the police are called through the train driver, I have nothing more to write to you.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 13 October 2021 12: 18
          +15
          While you will press the button there and the train will go to the station - you will be stabbed five times already.
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 13 October 2021 12: 27
        +4
        Quote: Stroporez
        Listen, what the hell is a button?
        If there are cameras at every turn, and the subway should have been equipped with cameras in the first place! By the time the train arrived at the next station, there should already have been a reinforced police and medical outfit

        Well done! In the top ten! good
      3. your1970
        your1970 13 October 2021 13: 02
        .
        Quote: Stroporez
        They don’t regret the dough to protect themselves from the beloved authorities, huge money is cut out from the budget for the security forces, there are thousands and thousands of riot police and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian state guards, “cosmonauts” are countless, everyone trains, they carry armored helmets with shields, they wave a baton,

        USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs
        Rubber stick I -1963
        Bullet-proof vest ZhZT -71 - 1971 (better than the army one at that time !!!!)
        Sphere Helmet - 1981
        Dzerzhinsky division - throughout the existence of the USSR

        Who is so interesting Soviet People's power was afraid and did not spare the money from the budget?
        Rhetorical question ...

        1. RMT
          RMT 13 October 2021 14: 02
          +10
          I will try to answer. The police sometimes detained armed criminals who shot at citizens and policemen. It's about body armor. And rubber sticks and helmets in most regional police departments were scanty. Internal troops had them in case of riots, riots.
        2. sifgame
          sifgame 13 October 2021 14: 53
          +10
          The Soviet power has nothing to do with it, all states had and still have such means of defense and attack, the most democratic law enforcement officers of the United States and all countries of civilized Europe, and they use them much more often.
        3. Edward Vashchenko
          Edward Vashchenko 13 October 2021 14: 58
          +13
          The Soviet government was not afraid of anyone!
          And there have always been criminals.
          Two Chechen wars would certainly not have been allowed.
          Any ethnic conflicts were stopped in those very places, in a maximum of a week.
          People from other republics came to the capital of our Motherland with reverence, and not with the aim of stabbing them.
          And you saw a lot of Dzerzhintsy people hanging around in the subway during the Soviet era, oh ... employees?
          And now only a solid increase ... only soldiers and wandering in the subway.
          As I saw about 4 years ago that people of the oriental type ran into them, I had to verbally intercede ...
          By the way, about the best armor, have you read it somewhere or experienced it yourself?
          And the "sphere", I don't even know who had it, maybe Alpha had it? , completely unsuitable for real action, so they were all in simple soldiers' steel helmets.
          Best regards hi
          1. your1970
            your1970 13 October 2021 15: 26
            -9
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            The Soviet government was not afraid of anyone!
            And there have always been criminals.

            Of course, I wasn't afraid ... yeah ...
            That is why Dzerzhinsky's division was needed in Moscow, with armored personnel carriers in stock ...
            This is solely for the sake of 1-2 ARMED criminals, yeah ...... "two companies on the right, a company on the left ... we need to go around and take armored personnel carriers, there won't be enough - we'll pull up Taman and Kantemirovka .." lol lol yeah ..
            Police posts in city party committees - were they also from criminals?
            ANY power protects itself and will protect itself, regardless of the order.


            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            People from other republics came to the capital of our Motherland with reverence, and not with the aim of stabbing them.
            yeah, on the assembly line of ZIL and AZLK - strictly with reverence ...
            Forgot the concept "Limit"????? !!!!
            The same guest workers - side view.
            By 1980, up to 60% of workers in Moscow factories were "limit A".
            The Muskvichs did not go to the conveyor to work FOR SOMETHING ...
            And the factories knocked out the same limits for themselves - for registration and housing stock ..

            I won't even remember the wipers. Muscovites-janitors never existed in nature.
            1. Edward Vashchenko
              Edward Vashchenko 13 October 2021 15: 40
              +10
              Police posts in city party committees

              Have you ever gone to the City Committee?
              The policeman was an attribute of furniture, well, that's the way it should be, no one even checked passports, and no one carried passports, they scared them: if you spoil them, you will pay a fine.
              Now try to enter a modern state authority without an entry, passport, etc.
              I repeat, there were no Dzerzhin residents on the streets and in the metro, they were attracted exclusively to mass sports and music events to strengthen them and they served in the city in police uniforms and without truncheons and even more bulletproof vests.
              hi
              1. your1970
                your1970 13 October 2021 16: 49
                -9
                Do not understand?
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                The policeman was an attribute of furniture
                even if a ficus grew out of him, he still sat there with one task - to prevent strangers
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                I repeat, Dzerzhin residents have never been on the streets and in the metro, they were attracted exclusively to mass sports and music events to strengthen

                Wonderful!!!!
                Only in Moscow there were concerts and sports events - the rest of the country sat without them? Yes? Or no?
                Only here is an anecdote - in no city with a population of one million of the USSR there were more divisions of the Interior Ministry's Interior Ministry.
                Only in Moscow was a division absolutely necessary
                1. Edward Vashchenko
                  Edward Vashchenko 13 October 2021 18: 07
                  +7
                  BB shelves were in many million-plus cities. What I remember at a glance.
                  Novosibirsk, Omsk, I know better about the Caucasus. The brigade was in Nalchik and Rostov-on-Don, in Grozny - a battalion and a special company in Chernorechye, a company in Khasavyurt, a division in Tbilisi, etc. in the Caucasus to prevent ethnic clashes.
                  And the residents of Dzerzhin ALWAYS, they had the 6th company of "krapoviks", if anything, went to places of mass riots, which since the 70s were exclusively associated with ethnic contradictions.
                  Protection of mass events is one of the tasks, plus really escapes, plus military special functions of the explosives, I will omit the details. A separate structure: the protection of special objects, not to be confused with the dachas of members of the Politburo and Clubs, I will also omit what special objects are, but you can google it.
                  hi
                2. your1970
                  your1970 13 October 2021 20: 18
                  -3
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  Separate structure: protection of special objects,
                  and restricted cargo soldier
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 13 October 2021 16: 32
            +4
            Quote: your1970
            That is why the Dzerzhinsky division was needed in Moscow

            You make me laugh. And who will catch fugitive convicts? By the way, there was no National Guard in America at that time, no.
            1. your1970
              your1970 13 October 2021 17: 02
              -6
              Quote: Pilat2009
              who will catch fugitive convicts

              It was definitely not Dzerzhinka who did this.
              Quote: Pilat2009
              By the way, there was no National Guard in America at that time, no.
              - and the USA was anti-popular capitalist build. They could ...
              They even used aviation against demonstrators in the same years.
            2. jovanni
              jovanni 13 October 2021 20: 59
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Quote: your1970
              That is why the Dzerzhinsky division was needed in Moscow

              You make me laugh. And who will catch fugitive convicts? By the way, there was no National Guard in America at that time, no.

              Division them. Dzerzhinsky - an operational unit of the Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, to catch convicts not according to the profile. The convoy units were engaged in this. The same Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      4. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 13 October 2021 16: 29
        +4
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Stroporez
        They don’t regret the dough to protect themselves from the beloved authorities, huge money is cut out from the budget for the security forces, there are thousands and thousands of riot police and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian state guards, “cosmonauts” are countless, everyone trains, they carry armored helmets with shields, they wave a baton,

        USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs
        Rubber stick I -1963
        Bullet-proof vest ZhZT -71 - 1971 (better than the army one at that time !!!!)
        Sphere Helmet - 1981
        Dzerzhinsky division - throughout the existence of the USSR

        Who is so interesting Soviet People's power was afraid and did not spare the money from the budget?
        Rhetorical question ...

        In the sense of a rubber stick? Did you see sticks near the police during the Soviet era? It was already in the 90s that a means of communicating with the people appeared. But on the other hand, how would you like the police to communicate with criminals? Is it exclusively sambo? I saw, because this is an attribute exclusively of special forces that release hostages. Have you heard about hijacking of planes in the USSR? Not? And robberies of savings banks?
        1. your1970
          your1970 13 October 2021 16: 59
          -7
          Quote: Pilat2009
          sense of a rubber stick? You in the days of the USSR saw a stick at the police?

          It was adopted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1963. Tear gas was later adopted
          After Novocherkassk Nikitos realized that the people could rise ...
          And yet - in the planned USSR, it was impossible to adopt anything and not release it. This is not the current times for you.
          It is already a fait accompli

          Z.Y.
          I didn’t see dollars in the USSR, but they were quite a lot
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 13 October 2021 19: 07
            +5
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: Pilat2009
            sense of a rubber stick? You in the days of the USSR saw a stick at the police?

            It was adopted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1963. Tear gas was later adopted
            After Novocherkassk Nikitos realized that the people could rise ...
            And yet - in the planned USSR, it was impossible to adopt anything and not release it. This is not the current times for you.
            It is already a fait accompli

            Z.Y.
            I didn’t see dollars in the USSR, but they were quite a lot

            One of the earliest documented uses of the Cherry Cherry occurred in 1967. During the court session on October 12, in Slutsk (Minsk region, BSSR), there were mass unrest among the local population, who considered the trial of one of the city party workers accused of murder not entirely objective. By lunchtime, about 3000 people had gathered at the courthouse, and a military unit of 3214 internal troops was called from Minsk to restore order. At about 21:00 it was decided to disperse the crowd blocking the building with the use of the Cheryomukha special means. Thanks to this, for some time the forces of law and order were able to disperse the crowd and quietly take the suspects out of the courtroom. However, after a while, the indignant instigators, not knowing that only the police officers and the judge remained in the court, drove the soldiers of the internal troops and set fire to the building, wishing to inflict lynching on the accused.
            The result of the Slutsk events of the fall of 1967 is as follows: the accused survived and were brought to trial, seven servicemen of the internal troops were injured, and more than thirty - injuries of varying severity, the head of the bullpen was mistaken for the accused and beaten to death, the judge burned down in the courthouse, from the heart The deputy head of the ROVD died of an attack. As you can see, none of the violators of public order was injured, which became possible only thanks to the use of non-lethal means by employees of the internal affairs bodies. By a tragic coincidence, only civil servants became victims.
            As you can see, in some cases it is impossible to do without gas, but this does not mean that the party was afraid of its people. By the way, they are afraid of their people both in France and in the USA ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 13 October 2021 20: 25
              -4
              You yourself have confirmed in good faith that the Soviet government really had reason to be afraid. I did not hear about these events.
              Moreover, before all this good was put into service, it was necessary to create, test, finance, include in plans, allocate a fund ... issues) for the future
              1. Dart
                Dart 13 October 2021 22: 20
                +1
                no, vigorous loaf, she will be engaged in masturbation, power, and not the attributes of power ... you, my friend, are not an anarchist by chance, according to your views? wassat
      5. igor67
        igor67 13 October 2021 21: 19
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Stroporez
        They don’t regret the dough to protect themselves from the beloved authorities, huge money is cut out from the budget for the security forces, there are thousands and thousands of riot police and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian state guards, “cosmonauts” are countless, everyone trains, they carry armored helmets with shields, they wave a baton,

        USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs
        Rubber stick I -1963
        Bullet-proof vest ZhZT -71 - 1971 (better than the army one at that time !!!!)
        Sphere Helmet - 1981
        Dzerzhinsky division - throughout the existence of the USSR

        Who is so interesting Soviet People's power was afraid and did not spare the money from the budget?
        Rhetorical question ...

        In general, in Soviet times, there were fights from district to district, sometimes thousands of young people with chains, fittings and batons beat each other and then explosives in helmets dispersed the crowd
        1. your1970
          your1970 14 October 2021 07: 24
          -2
          Quote: igor67
          In general, in Soviet times, there were fights between district and district, sometimes thousands of young people with chains, rebar and batons beat each other.

          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          And the residents of Dzerzhin ALWAYS, they had the 6th company of "krapoviks", if anything, went to places of mass riots, which since the 70s were exclusively associated with ethnic contradictions.

          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          BB shelves were in many million-plus cities. What I remember at a glance.
          Novosibirsk, Omsk, I know better about the Caucasus. The brigade was in Nalchik and Rostov-on-Don, in Grozny - a battalion and a special company in Chernorechye, a company in Khasavyurt, a division in Tbilisi, etc. in the Caucasus,


          About a miracle !!!!! It turns out that there were a lot of units, and there were special equipment, and there were armored personnel carriers ...
          And there was a police post in the city committee ...
          And the excesses of the people were - the example of Slutsk was given, and the fights between district and district ...

          And all this suggests that POWER - even if she calls herself a folk 100 times, she was afraid of the people, to put it mildly ...
          And even if all this was done for the sake of the people, so that unreasonable people do not kill each other, this is still the concern of the POWER of their beloved, otherwise the image among the rest of the population will be bad ...

          The holy naivete of the Russian people ...
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 14 October 2021 10: 03
            +1
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: igor67
            In general, in Soviet times, there were fights between district and district, sometimes thousands of young people with chains, rebar and batons beat each other.

            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            And the residents of Dzerzhin ALWAYS, they had the 6th company of "krapoviks", if anything, went to places of mass riots, which since the 70s were exclusively associated with ethnic contradictions.

            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            BB shelves were in many million-plus cities. What I remember at a glance.
            Novosibirsk, Omsk, I know better about the Caucasus. The brigade was in Nalchik and Rostov-on-Don, in Grozny - a battalion and a special company in Chernorechye, a company in Khasavyurt, a division in Tbilisi, etc. in the Caucasus,


            About a miracle !!!!! It turns out that there were a lot of units, and there were special equipment, and there were armored personnel carriers ...
            And there was a police post in the city committee ...
            And the excesses of the people were - the example of Slutsk was given, and the fights between district and district ...

            And all this suggests that POWER - even if she calls herself a folk 100 times, she was afraid of the people, to put it mildly ...
            And even if all this was done for the sake of the people, so that unreasonable people do not kill each other, this is still the concern of the POWER of their beloved, otherwise the image among the rest of the population will be bad ...

            The holy naivete of the Russian people ...

            YOU do not distort the facts. In any country in the world there are special forces guarding the internal order. The history of the development of Cheryomukha is worth reading. No one says that there were no dissatisfied in the USSR. The disturbances happened on various occasions, such as in this example.
            1. your1970
              your1970 14 October 2021 21: 41
              -1
              Quote: Pilat2009
              . In any country in the world there are special forces guarding the internal order. Read the history of the development of Cheryomukha. No one says that there were no dissatisfied people in the USSR. Disturbances happened on various occasions, such as in this example.

              What kind of juggling? In what ???? !!!!
              The fact that there were Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ???
              In that
              Quote: your1970
              Rubber stick I -1963
              Bullet-proof vest ZhZT -71 - 1971 (better than the army one at that time !!!!)
              Sphere Helmet - 1981

              were put into service long before the collapse?
              Was there any excitement? That they were serious enough?
              That was the institution of registration, restricting the movement of people from place to place?
              In that POWER defended herself, including by police posts in city committees and above?
              These are all obvious things - which are well known to everyone present ...
              Just apparently - "before the sky was blue, the grass is greener, the cops are kinder ....",
              When you write that in the USSR in the 1970s there were on average up to 100 attacks on sentries and police officers (with one goal - to take possession of a service weapon) - the people do not believe and spit.
              When you write that the cops beat the major (!!!!) of the KGB (!!!!!!) on Zhdanovskaya - which means they would have trampled a simple hard worker for a second without hesitation for 5 rubles - people do not believe and spit


              ZY
              It's just that at first everyone is surprised
              Quote: Pilat2009
              In the sense of a rubber stick? Did you see a stick near the police during the Soviet era? It was already in the 90s that a means of communicating with the people appeared.

              and then - "well, yes, it was. belay .. "
              Template break occurs
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 15 October 2021 09: 05
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                Quote: Pilat2009
                . In any country in the world there are special forces guarding the internal order. Read the history of the development of Cheryomukha. No one says that there were no dissatisfied people in the USSR. Disturbances happened on various occasions, such as in this example.

                What kind of juggling? In what ???? !!!!
                The fact that there were Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ???
                In that
                Quote: your1970
                Rubber stick I -1963
                Bullet-proof vest ZhZT -71 - 1971 (better than the army one at that time !!!!)
                Sphere Helmet - 1981

                were put into service long before the collapse?
                Was there any excitement? That they were serious enough?
                That was the institution of registration, restricting the movement of people from place to place?
                In that POWER defended herself, including by police posts in city committees and above?
                These are all obvious things - which are well known to everyone present ...
                Just apparently - "before the sky was blue, the grass is greener, the cops are kinder ....",
                When you write that in the USSR in the 1970s there were on average up to 100 attacks on sentries and police officers (with one goal - to take possession of a service weapon) - the people do not believe and spit.
                When you write that the cops beat the major (!!!!) of the KGB (!!!!!!) on Zhdanovskaya - which means they would have trampled a simple hard worker for a second without hesitation for 5 rubles - people do not believe and spit


                ZY
                It's just that at first everyone is surprised
                Quote: Pilat2009
                In the sense of a rubber stick? Did you see a stick near the police during the Soviet era? It was already in the 90s that a means of communicating with the people appeared.

                and then - "well, yes, it was. belay .. "
                Template break occurs

                The distortion is that the authorities were afraid of their people. Crime in the USSR was at the same level as in the West, you see, it does not depend on the social system. It can only be curbed by very unpopular measures, like in Saudi Arabia, for example. But ours the state, and even common people from the West, will not agree to this. You are not surprised by the security guard at the school, why cannot there be a guard in a state institution?
              2. your1970
                your1970 15 October 2021 19: 25
                -1
                Quote: Pilat2009
                The distortion is that the authorities were afraid of their people.

                Quote: Pilat2009
                Crime in the USSR was at the same level as in the West, you see, it does not depend on the social system.
                - divisions are not needed to fight crime.
                Unlike the West, our criminals did not have an enormous amount of weapons in their hands.

                But divisions / regiments are a little different. They are necessary for MASS problems
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 14 October 2021 07: 27
    0
    So Sobyanin allocated two million from the master's shoulder to Kovalev.
    Quote: Stroporez
    They would give a hero and even throw the inconsolable mother on a "good memory".

    I read the comments on YouTube, yesterday someone else grappled with these, so there is a howl from the burqa, 2 lemma was given to the hero, now all the Russians also wanted to get some money, and they cling to the poor shepherds.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 October 2021 12: 50
    +11
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Why do they howl and demand that some men solve the problem, but stubbornly refuse to call other men, who are paid for these calls?

    And it was impossible to throw the cry "Guys, they are beating ours!", As we did in our youth.
    There was a time in TsPKIO them. We will hear Kirov, "The men are beating the collar, help!"
    1. sifgame
      sifgame 13 October 2021 14: 55
      +5
      YOU lived and were raised in the USSR, and now Tiktok is raising children, and before that, cartoons like Pokemon
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 October 2021 19: 02
        +1
        Quote: sifgame
        and now tiktok is raising children, and before that cartoons like Pokemon

        Well, yes, the movies were shown once a week (and this is good), and I’ll see cartoons for the first time when I started working, but I still don’t know what kind of animals they are about Pokemon.
        Now they are furious with nothing to do, but we had to sit in the garden from spring to autumn, and Dad at the age of 14 put a plow on a tractor from spring to school.
      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 13 October 2021 22: 31
        +1
        There is a Rodnikovsky farm in the Krasnodar Territory, across the Urup River, a Circassian aul. Circassian youngsters arrive drunk in the back of a truck with hunting rifles and in a frenzy start firing wherever they hit, including the windows of houses. The locals immediately mobilize and push the guests in full. The result of arrests and trial? Ours are imprisoned, the Circassians are released. But what about ?! Lowering the national minority to offend, we have the friendship of peoples! And that was in the USSR, 70s. What about "lived and raised" there?
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 13 October 2021 13: 48
    +6
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Why does the country need smart citizens, and the female reproductive organ gives birth to people like Kovalev?

    According to the proverb, the country needs heroes, not cowardly but cunning ones. The latter ... At all times it was in abundance. Including do not reshape the phrase. We have enough clever cowards for a dozen Russians.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 14 October 2021 01: 15
    +3
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Why are they ready to go into conflict with the three degenerates, but not ready to press the button to communicate with the driver? There are a bunch of buttons in the car, press any button. Why hasn't anyone done this?

    Because thieves as a norm of life have been absorbed into the subcortex of the population. Knocking cops is not a kid. Forgot?
    All sorts of "orators" compete in wringing hands, on the subject of "falling morals," the absence of a national idea, the decay of youth ...
    And at this time, the "thug chanson" collects music awards, and the children idolize AUE.
    I am especially amused by the "fight against the propaganda of homosexuality" among minors, obscurantism at full height, who knows at least one person whose intimate preferences are determined by "propaganda"? It’s scary you see that children will be seduced to become blue. And the fact that children are seduced to become gopniks and urks, is it not scary?
    That, with the propaganda of which it is REALLY necessary to fight, "blooms and smells".
    How about fighting the propaganda of "concepts", "thug romance"? With this trash, which REALLY poisons the minds and corrupts the morality of young people. Was one punished for this?
    And then they still wonder where there are so many "crooks and thieves".
    They have a bunch of buttons ... but what about Cure national culture, burn out all the "thieves" pus from it with a hot iron! How do you like this "National Idea" to begin with. am
    1. your1970
      your1970 15 October 2021 19: 33
      0
      Quote: And Us Rat
      They have a bunch of buttons .... How about Cure the national culture, burn out all the "thieves" pus from it with a hot iron! How do you like this "National Idea" to begin with.
      -hm ..... have you heard the songs of V.S. Vysotsky?
      Well, what to talk to you about -
      All the same, you will fuck nonsense.
      I’d better go to the guys to drink -
      The guys have more important thoughts.

      The guys have a serious conversation -
      For example, about who drinks harder.
      The guys have a wide outlook -
      From the stall to our grocery.

      Our conversation is both direct and rude -
      We solve all problems with a gulp:
      Where to get the missing ruble
      And who then run for vodka.

      You give me bread kvass in the morning.
      What can you think of as an excuse?
      We have different intellects -
      Improve your education!
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 15 October 2021 20: 05
        +1
        Quote: your1970
        Have you heard of V.S. Vysotsky?

        You insult Vysotsky's memory with such insinuations!
        In his songs, humor, political satire, ridicule of stupidity and lecimeria, and tragicomic A PARODY on "blatnyak", but there is not a drop of praise for "blatnyak" and criminal "concepts." A "camp" theme EXCLUSIVELY about political prisoners and prisoners of conscience... Vysotsky's songs emphasize "concepts" as a disease of society, cadaveric poison, destroying the culture and moral foundations of an entire nation.

        Quote: your1970
        Do you offer to cut it?

        But everyone, Shifutinsky, Krugov, Karetny, erase from history like a shameful stain. Gop-rap, blatnyak, and other cultural dung shall be outlawed as destructive sectarianism, and the replication of such things among young people shall be equated with pedophilia with an appropriate preventive measure.
        A thief should sit in prison and be despised by society, and not be a trendsetter.
        A society in which criminals are called "respected people" when they should be called the scum of society is rotten, sick and has no future.
        When I was young, I hung out with such a trash, I was one of them, I know what I'm talking about. sad
        1. your1970
          your1970 15 October 2021 21: 18
          0
          Quote: And Us Rat
          A "camp" theme EXCLUSIVELY about npolitical prisoners and prisoners of conscience.
          -Yes okay !!! kaneshno only about "politicians"
          Quote: And Us Rat
          You insult Vysotsky's memory with such insinuations!
          -the lyrics of the songs for a start, read and then throw yourself with pathos ... yeah

          I'm in business, and with me a knife -
          And don't touch me at this moment,
          And after - I always go to the pub, -
          And whoever says what,
          I got it myself - and drank it myself -
          And I will continue to do exactly the same.


          A man comes up to me
          And he says: “In our difficult age
          I want to destroy people like you! "
          And I stabbed the boy -
          Didn't interpret, but screwed up, -

          And I will continue to do the same.

          Do you just want to say -
          Sit down at the table and we'll drink, -
          We will discuss and decide everything with you.
          But if you want the way he does -
          We all have the same law
          And then it will remain so.

          November 1961, XNUMX
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 15 October 2021 21: 41
            0
            Quote: your1970
            first read the lyrics

            Are you really not catching up or are you just pretending?
            If you are unable to distinguish banter, sarcasm and satire, then I can only sympathize. Vysotsky is probably not for you. sad
            1. your1970
              your1970 15 October 2021 22: 52
              0
              Quote: And Us Rat
              Quote: your1970
              first read the lyrics

              Are you really not catching up or are you just pretending?
              If you are unable to distinguish banter, sarcasm and satire, then I can only sympathize. Vysotsky is probably not for you. sad

              if this the text is sarcasm or satire - then Shifuta is a satirist, and Krug is a humorist ...
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 15 October 2021 22: 58
                0
                Quote: your1970
                if this text is sarcasm or satire, then Shifutinsky is a satirist, and Krug is a humorist ...

                Neither one nor the other. It's just that the message of his creativity is beyond your perception.
                The fact that you take everything literally is your difficulty, do not drag me into your beliefs, in my eyes it looks delusional.
                I feel like communicating with a flat-earth adept. request
  • frruc
    frruc 13 October 2021 18: 19
    0
    ..... the parents of these repeat offenders (two have articles for theft, the third for causing moderate harm) will not have enough money to hush up the case and Khanmagomedov (especially him), Musalaev and Zalibekov will go to places of imprisonment for a long time.

    I will closely watch how long these "horsemen" will go crowing to the kichu. I think they deserved ten.
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 13 October 2021 11: 38
    +26
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Then everything would have happened exactly the same, but the guy would not have been hurt.

    Wouldn't have happened. I have not seen a single boarding for insult. And they would have called earlier, so what? No body, no case. Come as soon as they kill you, but don't interfere with work. This is from my own experience.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 13 October 2021 12: 24
      +7
      Quote: NDR-791
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Then everything would have happened exactly the same, but the guy would not have been hurt.

      Wouldn't have happened. I have not seen a single boarding for insult. And they would have called earlier, so what? No body, no case. Come as soon as they kill you, but don't interfere with work. This is from my own experience.

      This is exactly what happens .. I do not understand what the police are doing .. well, except for the protection of ghouls .. I have a lot of cases when a trifling case was not investigated ..
      1. shtatsov
        shtatsov 13 October 2021 23: 35
        +4
        Legally, the police cannot do it themselves. In the West, a neighbor called, complained about noisy neighbors. A policeman has arrived, but they are really making noise. He does not need testimony and statements from a neighbor. He will arrange everything on his own. Will write a protocol. But we have not, you called, you write a statement, you run around the courts. The next time you think about it, well, you will create hemorrhoids for yourself. And our police officer must collect the evidence base for the prosecution. No evidence, no evidence, no body, no case! Kill-come! Roughly something like this.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 13 October 2021 12: 09
    +38
    There is one more thing here. Shoot with bare hands on three Caucasians with knives - no bad ones. For the result is quite predictable, Bryusov Lee among us is somehow not enough. Stupidly slaughtered. But if in return I take out a knife or, say, pull out a wolf cub, then they will jail me. Examples of this are the darkness. No - if the matter concerns my family - of course, the struggling term is no longer important, but sitting down with a stranger is somehow not very attractive. Moreover, they will be imprisoned not only for the type of excess of self-defense, but also interethnic incitement will be stuck. And then, in general, terrorism with extremism ..

    So the main problem is in law enforcement practice, which actually deprives citizens of the right to resist criminals. Of us, slowly but surely they make wordless endures. And if we take into account all the cases when the diasporas stupidly discouraged their criminals, the situation is generally deplorable .. And the continuous pressure from the authorities regarding civilian weapons - in the same vein.

    Forbidding people to defend themselves and those around them - and the de facto tacit permission to the Russians to do whatever they please.
    1. Mr. PeZhe
      Mr. PeZhe 13 October 2021 14: 48
      +16
      I subscribe to every word, colleague!
      And to all the couch Rambo, who are indignant at the "cowardly men in the carriage" I can say the following. What happened is a consequence of many years of practice of the so-called. "our" state. This is when the Russians are always to blame for any interethnic conflict, and all rafiks are innocent. As a result, thousands of Russian Don Quixotes hang out in the zones, and there are no more fools. It is characteristic that Kovalev is from Voronezh. Maybe that's why I fit in. And the Muskwabad guys did not fit in, because they knew the result in advance.
      If anyone does not understand - imagine that the men from the carriage fit in and broke three monkeys. And now it would be these men who were in jail, and every iron would rush about another trick of the Russian fascists.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 October 2021 15: 13
        +4
        Quote: Mr. PeZhe
        And now it would be these men who were in jail, and every iron would rush about another trick of the Russian fascists.

        ... and then it comes out, 8 years of strict regime (for men).
  • sleeve
    sleeve 13 October 2021 13: 39
    +5
    Here are my doubts, dear, that without the key phrase "kill!" an outfit would have arrived in a heart-rending female voice (well, it would have arrived, but it would not have demonstrated its "effectiveness"). However, in Moscow it is possible in a different way. However, for some reason I am sure that they washed not the first and not the second such episodes of their pastime with blood. So what kind of pink glasses are there? Impunity led to lawlessness — a typical social situation.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 13 October 2021 13: 59
    +5
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    А what should have been done in this situation? Yes, exactly the same as, in the end, they did - press the button of communication with the driver and call the police to the car.

    What if it wasn't on the subway? And there was no button to call the police? What then?
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 16: 52
      0
      Quote: Stas157

      What if it wasn't on the subway? And there was no button to call the police? What then?

      Does religion not allow calling through a cell phone? You don't have to be heroes. Call the police, they are hired with our money to do this job, they have the rights and weapons and skills. This Urkagan philosophy about informers, introduced from childhood, is a common lie, a lesson in one's own interests. For example, they robbed you, your neighbor, your native plant. You turned / wrote where you should, then you are an informer? This is true if you are also from this environment with concepts and their laws apply to you, but excuse me, then those who stole rats from you / your neighbor / native plant (steal from your own!) Do you understand dialectics?
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 13 October 2021 17: 22
        +3
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        And call through a cell phone religion does not allow?

        Allows. But horsemen may not allow it. Also minus the phone to physical losses.

        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        This Urkagan philosophy, introduced from childhood about informers there is a common lie

        I agree with you.
      2. Unknown
        Unknown 14 October 2021 09: 54
        +6
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Does religion not allow calling through a cell phone? You don't have to be heroes. Call the police, they are hired with our money to do this job, they have the rights and weapons and skills.

        It is difficult to disagree with you. I would like to note that the natives of the Caucasus and especially the Transcaucasia themselves, citizens of the Russian Federation. do not really consider themselves. First of all, they are Vainakhs, Ingush, Avars, Lezgins and others, only then can they remember their belonging to Russia. And Khabib's statement “Where is my medal from Bastrykin? Dagestanis also beat me up with a crowd! " confirmation of this. They have always respected and respect only strength, they understand a quick and tough rebuff. Five-year part-time job in a taxi, and often at night gives reason to say so. There were all kinds of things, and I saw many such sons of the Caucasus. Of course the guy overestimated himself and his strength. He was engaged in rowing, pumped up a little, and life experience was zero. I thought the appearance would be scared, they would subside, but I also got it in full. Next time it will be smarter, and if you again run into such a situation, he will hit first, and very hard, without any admonitions, and also unexpectedly. Only in this way, and do not care about the consequences. I am not sure of my strength, carry something with you, at least a pepper spray. You should not rely on the police "The matter of helping the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves."
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        This is true if you are also from this environment with concepts and their laws are applicable to you, but excuse me, then those who stole rats from you / your neighbor / native plant (steal from your own!) Do you understand dialectics?

        What to do if the whole country lives according to the concepts. To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf! When those in power begin to live like human beings, then the people will begin to correct themselves. As for the sons of the mountains, I will say this, when the authorities, not in words, but in deeds, begin to press them everywhere, they will be invisible. Arrived in any city in the Russian Federation went to the station at the airport, cops are right there, documents, purpose of arrival why? In tsugunder until the identity is clarified, whether there are old sins, etc. They let me go after 48 hours, went out into the city, again attire and with a new one. We got on the bus, the metro began to cackle in our own way, they began to lead insolently, drag them out as they should, and hand them over to the cops, so that they would take your side, the law is like a tongue, where you turned there and left. Then the highlanders will think, but should they make raids into cities and towns of the Russian Federation? Is it worth it or not? And if they do, they will behave accordingly.
        1. flicker
          flicker 14 October 2021 11: 24
          -3
          We got on the bus, the metro cackled in our own way, they began to lead insolently, drag them out as they should, and hand over to the cops
          Well, in the sense that how in / in Ukraine was it with the Russians?
          1. Unknown
            Unknown 14 October 2021 12: 51
            +2
            What does Ukraine have to do with it? Why would she poke constantly. When it is part of Russia, then we will talk about it. Now the problem is different, the author is right in this.
            1. flicker
              flicker 14 October 2021 14: 00
              -2
              What does Ukraine have to do with it?
              They call for punishment for the Russian language.
              1. Unknown
                Unknown 14 October 2021 17: 33
                +2
                Quote: flicker
                They call for punishment for the Russian language.

                There is no need to distort and exaggerate what has been said. Said
                literally, they spoke loudly, began to behave insolently, but it is not necessary to ascribe to me the prohibition to speak my native language. Understand what is said.
  • teptyar
    teptyar 13 October 2021 14: 33
    +3
    agree with you fellow countryman. And so it had to be done. Button-driver - the police at the station meet.
    But the guy still has respect - a man.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 October 2021 14: 35
    +4
    The author, apparently, has been abroad for a long time (if at all) and draws information about the state of affairs there from our very "objective" media.
    If we had the same number of migrants who do not know our language as in Berlin .... My wife and I were there in front of the covid, so we would already have riots, as in America.
    And so - a couple of police officers are standing near the entrance to the metro station. There is a noisy family of either Arabs or rum. One glance at them was enough for the law enforcers to make the whole gang be silent, whisper at the younger ones and quietly entered the station. We then went in the same carriage - they never returned to their noisiness!
  • victor50
    victor50 13 October 2021 17: 46
    +1
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Not the intercession of the unimaginative guy who got in touch with who was kicked unchecked on the floor of the van, but the police called on the button, who detained the degenerates.

    I did not expect such moral principles to receive such approval. It looks like this is a completely different country, not the one in which I grew up. Morality is kind of my khataskarny,
  • CTABEP
    CTABEP 13 October 2021 19: 55
    +4
    But the author did not notice the most important thing. If, for example, an armed guy were in the place of Roman (see "Saints from the Metro"), they would not judge the attackers, but him. Therefore, many are afraid - you will not calm them down with words, but the matter will grow into a real batch - you have a huge chance of getting out of there either with a corpse or with a convict. One of those fathers stood up for his daughter, fired a shot over his head - and now he is in court as a terrible "Russian foshist".
  • indeveral
    indeveral 13 October 2021 21: 41
    +1
    That's when your children will be brought down by some such heroes, let jackals like you appear next to them. They will press a button and watch how your children will be cut.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 October 2021 23: 44
    +2
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Skoromorokhov, squealing about absent men, lives in his own pink world.

    There is one.
    The article is a chaotic stream of consciousness.
    At first, Roman complains that there are no peasants left in the country, that all of them are lousy and cowards, and against the background of the same he is indignant that they made a "bloated hero" from the only one who did not drip.
    And as asking more, to stimulate the masses of "self-seekers and cowards" (according to Roman), to follow a positive example, this is the only way. By clearly showing - that heroism can be beneficial.
    Say thank you in general that even so.
    You, Comrade Skomorokhov, decide on the goals of your indignation, propose constructively.
    And then I like such "speakers", those who like to criticize, stigmatize and look for the guilty. Of course, this is easier than proposing effective solutions. And how is this different from Navalny's rhetoric? Is that the choice of target for accusations.

    That is why the USSR collapsed, because mostly useless orators and party demagogues slipped into leadership positions, who only knew how to get into the ears of ordinary hard workers, irritate the crowd, incite it against unwanted "enemies of the people." At the same time, being incompetent zeros in management issues, and going on the hump of subordinates.
    am
    It is necessary to issue a law: YOU CRY - PROPOSE. There will be fewer people who want to "teach life" at once. am
  • greymist
    greymist 14 October 2021 07: 11
    0
    Everything is correct. The author is a dimagogue!
  • Antipatr
    Antipatr 14 October 2021 09: 56
    +1
    Bashkirkhan, I completely agree with you.
  • Modya
    Modya 14 October 2021 20: 47
    0
    Typical ostrich position! Very popular among Muscovites! There are some guys in the police who have to solve all my problems! And you know that there are already a minority of Russian guys in the Moscow police. Because Russians, and especially Muscovites, do not want to go to difficult work! Cases when the police actually manage to stop such actions, or to detain the perpetrators, even in a Moscow full of cameras, 1 out of 5. So it turns out that when you are beaten around there will be people with your idea of ​​life, and in the police on duty there will be alone Kabardians who don't care about you either. And everything will turn out far from so blissful and heroic: resuscitation, rehabilitation, the absence of witnesses and suspects ...
  • andybuts
    andybuts 18 October 2021 14: 20
    -1
    There you can somehow calm down three drunken swaggering degenerates with knives so that no one will even suffer and everything will end quietly and peacefully, and everyone will remain friends. But what should have been done in this situation?

    Thinking well, but if the guy was killed before the police arrived? What I saw on the video is quite likely. When 5 people came up, the "animals" would all stop kicking the guy. It is not even necessary to get into the fight itself, it would be important to distract. The rest would also summon an outfit. And there the stop is not far.
    A citizen is likely to be slaughtered like a pig.
    yes, there is such a risk. But if we are every man for ourselves, then there is a high probability that we will all be cut one by one. Because they are together, and we are apart!
  • knn54
    knn54 13 October 2021 11: 57
    +19
    Would have received a WORTHY rebuff (and there were such cases), IMMEDIATELY the whole family would have run to the police to complain, shoot the beatings.
    In this regard, I liked the events in Australia, when visiting Muslims raped ... a prostitute, but an Australian.
    The participants and their friends got FULL. As well as the policemen who tried to protect the "guests".
    I would like to remind you of the Armenian who stabbed a soldier who served in Syria.
    The matter did not progress further than the talking shop.
    There are more and more such cases.
    And the reasons TWO-corruption in law enforcement, and the second ... not only there.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 13 October 2021 14: 05
      +6
      Quote: knn54
      I would like to remind you of the Armenian who stabbed a soldier who served in Syria.
      The matter did not progress further than the talking shop.
      There are more and more such cases.

      And here we are constantly being told about the strong power and firm hand of Putin! But where is she, why not put things in order in her own capital, next to the Kremlin?
  • Svarog
    Svarog 13 October 2021 12: 07
    +11
    In general, the Moscow story with my fellow countryman Roman Kovalev showed many interesting moments. Over which we even need to think, not for us, but for those who are sitting in the Kremlin and the White House. This is their headache.

    This is our headache .. their headache, how to bring in more migrants ..
    Moscow Mayor Sobyanin ordered to give Kovalev 2 million rubles. I also decided to become good.

    They are killing two birds with one stone ... they are promoting themselves and transferring the problem itself from a nationwide one to a heroic feat of a private person.
    1. Modya
      Modya 14 October 2021 21: 56
      +2
      I think they (the authorities) placate Roman not to give comments to the press in the spirit of interethnic hatred, otherwise they will have a hard time. And this already has its fruits: the clearly provocative post of Nurmugamedov in the Telegram, that he allegedly received a medal from Bystrykin only for being beaten by the Dagestanis, Roman himself interprets very peacefully (not to insult him, but as an indicative result of actions authorities).
  • Stas157
    Stas157 13 October 2021 13: 49
    +7
    Peskov said that what happened is not a reason to talk about interethnic tensions: “We are talking about scum, about hooligans, no matter what nationality they are.

    If they don't hit you, then maybe it does not matter, Mr. Peskov. Nevertheless, in Moscow, a Russian (Chuvash, Udmurt, Mari ...) man can be beaten by the natives of the southern republics, but he dared to speak out in defense of a Russian (Chuvash, Udmurt, Mari ...) girl. There is no reverse picture. This can be outrageous. But this no longer surprises anyone.
  • Vend
    Vend 13 October 2021 17: 08
    -2
    Moscow Mayor Sobyanin ordered to give Kovalev 2 million rubles. I also decided to become good.
    Now, if Sobyanin gave money out of his pocket, it would be commendable. But the fact that he manages the budget in this way is very strange. Being good at someone else's expense is very beneficial for your wallet. And at the expense of the budget ...
    Not from the budget, but obliged to do this by the metro. If he himself did anything, then you will not know about it. This is not advertised
  • Basil50
    Basil50 13 October 2021 23: 05
    +2
    Well, the author made his curtsey towards Dagestan. Only questions remain. Why does the subsidized region, Dagestan, suddenly start * bullish *? Either the nonsense of some gladiator is broadcast, then some * respected * come out with their nonsense and claims. It seems to me that all these subsidized regions should start living on EARNINGS. And it turns out an anecdotal situation - * can only multiply *, but you can't work with your hands or your brain *?
    It is imperative that the laws on the right to arms and the right to defend themselves finally be brought into line with common sense.
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  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 October 2021 20: 58
    +1
    Quote: Bez 310
    It's hard not to agree.

    It is difficult to write this, but it is not difficult to agree. The presence of soul and conscience is more important here ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 October 2021 11: 11
    +18
    The fact that the authorities are dancing around Roman Kovalev will definitely not bring a positive result. Those who have conscience and honor, they will act according to their principles, completely oblivious to money and rewards. And whoever doesn't have them - so you can't force them to do something like that for money. And they will get rewards for themselves if they wish and without moral and physical efforts. To do this, you need to have money and a few connections.
    Yes, the power is snotty and spineless. Whatever she does inside the country, everything is through. Instead of "the law is one for all," a bunch of reservations and opportunities to sell and buy.
    Diasporas are ulcers and cancerous tumors. There are bodies and there is mom-dad, but for contact with "respected people", "a document on the table" and without extenuating circumstances.
    1. Serge-667
      Serge-667 13 October 2021 11: 24
      +15
      One hundred percent in relation to the diasporas. It's time to stop this business. There is a LAW. The rest is from the evil one.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 October 2021 11: 49
        +10
        So how to touch them ?? !! At the same time, "230%" will not vote for power in the south. Of course, it's time to end with these sickly bodies. And tough. Shooting on the street? At least a wedding-funeral, for four years on a kichu. And everything remained on the rise. And that's enough, here with Moscow next to Bryansk, Smolensk, Tver, etc., and not Makhachkala and Grozny.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 October 2021 11: 46
      +12
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Yes, the power is snotty and spineless. Whatever she does inside the country, everything is through. Instead of "the law is one for all," a bunch of reservations and opportunities to sell and buy.
      Diasporas are ulcers and cancerous tumors. There are bodies and there is mom-dad, but for contact with "respected people", "a document on the table" and without extenuating circumstances.

      This is, of course, true, only the "root" of which must be seen in another, namely in the dire economic state of the regions.
      Everyone knows that all the country's money is in Maskvastan, and there are no prospects for young people in the regions, so they go in search of a better life.
      The second question is in the absence of an internal policy of the state and in relation to nationalities, including, or rather, there is a policy of suppression of any "against", but there is no other.
      1. vic02
        vic02 13 October 2021 12: 18
        +7
        the "root" in which one must be aware of something else, namely, in the dire economic condition of the regions ... all the country's money is in Maskvastan, and in the regions there are no prospects for young people
        no, the economic state of Dagestan cannot be called good, not because Moscow took the money. The leader in the ranking in terms of the number of state subsidies is the Republic of Dagestan. For 2020, she was given funds, about 72 billion rubles. The reason is total corruption multiplied by sister-in-law.
        lack of domestic policy of the state and regarding nationalities
        and here, yes, the laws and their application should be aimed specifically at suppressing the possibilities of using family or clan ties, otherwise it is useless. However, today in our country this is from the realm of fantasy.
        1. your1970
          your1970 13 October 2021 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: vic02
          laws and their application should be aimed specifically at suppressing the possibilities of using kinship or clan ties, otherwise it is useless. However, today in our country this is from the realm of fantasy.

          Even the USSR did not succeed in this ...
          1985 - a riot in Almaty due to an attempt to replace Kunaev with a Russian
          1. vic02
            vic02 13 October 2021 16: 04
            +3
            riot in Almaty due to an attempt to replace Kunaev with a Russian
            Among representatives of any nationality there are adequate, honest people, so it will work out. It's another matter when the top in Moscow begins to rot, then there is no demand from the appanage princelings, as long as they provide support to the top.
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 13 October 2021 16: 15
        +5
        The authorities live behind the Kremlin wall and they don't care who is beating whom behind it. This is no longer a country, but a freak show in half with a serpentarium, and soon it will be completely impossible for people to live here.
      3. gsev
        gsev 13 October 2021 16: 27
        -1
        Quote: Stroporez
        Everyone knows that all the country's money is in Maskvastan, and there are no prospects for young people in the regions, so they go in search of a better life.

        There is no money in the regions, because the inhabitants of the regions see themselves as cool heels and go in for sports to the detriment of science. If more industrious and hardworking citizens feed less successful regions, then Moscow and St. Petersburg will become as poor as Ossetia, Chechnya and Ingushetia. When I was in a Circassian village, I heard the opinion of the local owner of the plant about the unwillingness and inability of Russians to build spacious two-story houses for themselves. And I am interested in the question why I can make equipment for a factory and do not have a two-story house and girls under 30 did not look at me as a potential husband, and those who work on my equipment teach me how to live. And to my teachings that it is necessary to study modern controllers, servos and frequency controllers and touch panels are deafened. There are always Russian losers in the Caucasus for this work, or at least Jewish ones.
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 13 October 2021 19: 59
          0
          Quote: gsev
          Jewish

          Jewish losers in the Caucasus are building houses. some kind of kibbutz.
    3. Aag
      Aag 13 October 2021 14: 01
      +4
      "... Yes, the power is snotty and spineless ..."
      Exactly until, it does not concern her interests ...
      There you will consider both the "core", and the teeth ... not sickly (((...
  • Proton
    Proton 13 October 2021 11: 14
    +11
    Thanks a lot to the author for the article!
    I fully support this position.
    Perhaps they are trying to shift the emphasis in this crime not to punishing the perpetrators, but to excessive praise of a man's act.
    This praise can play a trick on the guy.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 13 October 2021 11: 41
      +9
      Perhaps they are trying to shift the emphasis in this crime not to punishing the perpetrators, but to excessive praise of a man's act.

      Is it because they are going to quietly release the slides?
      1. Proton
        Proton 13 October 2021 11: 47
        +5
        Perhaps, perhaps.
        The excitement will settle down, emotions will subside and some court will award these three on a suspended sentence.
        Even compensation can not be paid - after all, everything has already been paid for (as the author correctly noted - from the state budget).
  • prior
    prior 13 October 2021 11: 16
    +28
    If these three Caucasian animals were quartered at the Execution Ground with a live broadcast, the country would be different.
    Why is Executioner worse than the American electric chair?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 13 October 2021 11: 40
      +18
      You forgot to throw the pen when it was announced to the whole country that Russia is not for Russians.
      I myself am from the Volga-Vyatka region. Surely a resident of Voronezh will not distinguish the Chuvash from the Udmurt, and the Mari are similar to the Russians. And for me, when I say Russia for Russians, both Kalmyks and Tungus are Russians. But now there are no Russians in the government, for their homeland is the West.
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 13 October 2021 12: 32
      +8
      If these three Caucasian animals were quartered on the Execution ground


      That's right. 14th century remedies are most effective. All the courts and lawyers are all nonsense. And so the court in 15 minutes and head off and everything will subside and the citizens will be filled with kindness and obedience to the law. Yes, and the evolutionary processes will work, removing incorrigible dolboyas.
  • mark1
    mark1 13 October 2021 11: 16
    +8
    That's right ... - absolutely right!
  • seti
    seti 13 October 2021 11: 16
    +23
    A very correct observation. In their native Dagestan, three Caucasians would not have done this. And in our capital you can.
    Zhirinovsky was right in his time that there is no such dibble concept as "friendship of peoples". I do not want to offend the peoples of Dagestan and the Caucasus in general with Sr. Asia, but for some reason such people come from there and not our Slavs who are home-grown in our bulk. It's quiet here, but here ... It's time to stop this chaos, otherwise the new self-proclaimed "Ichkeria" is not far off ..
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 13 October 2021 12: 02
      +9
      Quote: seti
      A very correct observation. In their native Dagestan, three Caucasians would not have done this. And here ... you can ...
      In the distant lieutenant years, in the town there was also a grouping of Caucasian characters and our relations were strained, for example. With a friend, a classmate, a Dagestani, we did not have enough and we flooded to the point late in the evening and went straight to this group ... I really thought that we would go here and lie. My friend rushes to them, says "we must go to the point." They took us there, they refused the money ... I say you're crazy, I thought we were sold out. I still remember his words: - They are losers at home and came here because you are gullible and scattered Russians, and they know that they are nothing at home, and they understand that I know this: they will never do anything to me ... Here is a lesson from an officer of the Russian Armed Forces, later the winner of Aviadarts, and his length of service exceeded his age
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 13 October 2021 14: 13
        +2
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        They Losers at home and came here

        Why not lucky ones? Did not understand. Many newcomers from the south even become billionaires in Moscow. Your republics would never be so lucky!
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 13 October 2021 15: 00
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          why not lucky ones? Did not understand
          Well, we did not serve in Moscow, and not even in the near Moscow region ... at a distance of 21 km from the end, the mine cover lay, it was a good reference point. And it was necessary to get to the nearest airport ... in a word, how many places far from ...
    2. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2021 12: 22
      +6
      Friendship of peoples is dangerous. It is easier when they are not friends. Divide and rule.
    3. flicker
      flicker 14 October 2021 12: 31
      +1
      In their native Dagestan, three Caucasians would not have done this. And in our capital you can.
      About 15 years ago there was a TV program just about the behavior of Caucasians (in particular, Chechens) in Russia. So there one of the guests in the studio says that he cannot imagine that (relatively speaking) the Voronezh guys in the center of Grozny got drunk and began to molest Chechen girls. Hinting (apparently) that Chechen guys in Voronezh can get drunk and molest Voronezh girls.
      But, on the other hand, I am sure that he (the guest of the program) could not have seen in the center of Grozny how the Chechen guys would get drunk (they go to neighboring regions to get drunk) and would pester Chechen girls there. Those. it is not accepted there.
      Another thing is (relatively speaking) in Voronezh you can quite see how Voronezh guys get drunk and stick to Voronezh girls.
      ---
      It turns out that if at home (in the Caucasus) you CANNOT behave this way (but you really want to), then you have to go where it is POSSIBLE. So they go to where their promiscuity is at ease.
      ---
      Types like this trinity, as a rule, are losers in life (because they can do nothing either in sports or in the profession), which gives them extremely low self-esteem among their relatives, self-esteem from this becomes infinitely wounded. So they run to where their wounded pride can find at least some satisfaction. And they find it through the brutal physical suppression of another person. That is what everyone saw in the subway. Everyone should know that they saw mentally ill people who saved their wounded pride through outright atrocity (they are not capable of anything else).


      Here, many write that in Dagestan they would not dare to behave like that, since there they would have been rolled into the asphalt, that is, they would have outraged their wounded pride.
      In fact, they are weaklings, and this weakness cannot be hidden behind any atrocity.
  • Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 13 October 2021 11: 17
    +25
    Any conversations on the topic of protecting honor and dignity in a situation where the state is primarily on the side of the criminal is thoroughly hypocritical!
    I have no doubt that other male passengers of this ill-fated subway car have scrolled through the options around "Necessary Self-Defense" for 20 or so times in their heads !!!
    Here the deputies have gathered - this is a job for them so that a citizen HAS the RIGHT to defend himself, his loved ones, and even bystanders by all means available to him, not only by law, but also in the name of justice, WITHOUT looking back at the "rights" of the criminal. Those who deliberately violated the law must BE AWARE that they are deprived of an equal relationship with respectable citizens! The criminal does not and should not have rights, except for a frank confession and an apology to the victims !!!!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 13 October 2021 11: 25
      0
      take a hundred Caucasians. and a hundred Russians from the street .. the same age ... and it turns out - a crowd of healthy men, against a crowd of "nerds" ... explained everything clearly? not ... the Unet government will not get it, this is its guard ...
      1. Aleksandr97
        Aleksandr97 13 October 2021 11: 28
        +7
        If you look at the map of the world, why are small (but certainly respected) ethnic groups of the Caucasus located with a large magnifying glass ???
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 13 October 2021 20: 04
          0
          Quote: Aleksandr97
          Why are there small (but certainly respected) ethnic groups of the Caucasus with a large magnifying glass ???

          because the Jews piled up. have to play the role of the Jews ourselves.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 13 October 2021 12: 29
        +6
        Eh old man, you're not quite old. And I remember forty years ago, in the army, in training ... Later I realized that this was how the sergeants were having fun. We brought our Ural company with the Armenian weapon belts with badges. The children of the mountains turned out to be nerds.
    2. ALARI
      ALARI 13 October 2021 11: 34
      +7
      A citizen HAD THE RIGHT to defend himself, his loved ones, and even bystanders by all means available to him, not only by law and in the name of justice, WITHOUT regard to the "rights" of the criminal - But this will probably not happen. It is beneficial for the authorities to have a small contingent of poorly managed people who do not think about the consequences of thugs. They do not mind, you can always write off and say face to any group of the population. Fear is a very strong incentive to do nothing.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 13 October 2021 15: 42
        +3
        A citizen HAD THE RIGHT to defend himself

        Alas, no one will simply grant the right to defend oneself, it is akin to the struggle for freedom, which is defended only with arms in hand. A simple example from our present is Donbass, it is defending itself against ukrofashistvuyuschih bandits. Kiev, as their former capital, gave him this right, no, they themselves had to take it, otherwise they simply no longer existed. A little pathetic, well, it happened.
        1. ALARI
          ALARI 13 October 2021 16: 38
          +4
          Let's be honest if Sistema did not stand behind Donbass against another System, then they would not be able to do anything. And what about the RIGHT, then a person in the described situation now has to fight on two fronts against these ghouls and against the laws of the Russian Federation. The fact that he is now a hero is only because he was beaten, but he would have flunked one of the three and he is already a suspect, and those who now extol him would modestly keep silent referring to the law.
  • NSV
    NSV 13 October 2021 11: 24
    +3
    I fully agree with Roman! It's a shame that nothing will change in the end !!!
  • Cron
    Cron 13 October 2021 11: 26
    0
    Glory to the circumstances, in Russia there are thousands of no less worthy people who help the sick and disabled, children, animals, resist scum, help save people in accidents and disasters, look for soldiers of that war, and so on ad infinitum.

    Well, this has always been the case in absolutely any country. Someone does some good deeds and remains unnoticed, someone is noticed, this is largely due to the fact that this event attracts the attention of the media, the public, etc. What is the author trying to squeeze out of himself, I'm not quite clear

    And for the most part, these people do their business not for awards and money. Namely, because they are People with a capital letter. And how are they worse?

    Yes, nothing, just because the conditions have developed.

    Heroes in our country have always been able to make. Especially in difficult times. Today's times cannot be called simple, but this is absolutely no reason for such "operations" to create heroes.

    Or maybe this is for people like you? Who are heroes on the Internet, but in that metro they would sit quietly on the sidelines.
  • Cron
    Cron 13 October 2021 11: 29
    .
    The results of such a policy will be a little lower, but for now - I'll take a chance. The foreign agents will not be sent further anyway.

    For a foreign agent, you still need to obtain foreign funding. And then you will not answer. Don't overcharge yourself
    1. Deck
      Deck 13 October 2021 11: 37
      +4
      For a foreign agent, you still need to obtain foreign funding.


      Do you use Sberbank? Some of Sberbank's shares belong to foreign citizens. Received a percentage from a debit card or cashback - please contact foreign agents.
      1. Cron
        Cron 13 October 2021 11: 45
        .
        Quote: Deck
        Do you use Sberbank? Some of Sberbank's shares belong to foreign citizens. Received a percentage from a debit card or cashback - please contact foreign agents.

        Part of the shares even belongs to me. Do you want to show off your knowledge?
        1. Deck
          Deck 14 October 2021 06: 31
          +1
          No, I am identifying persons who: "are engaged in political activities and (or) conduct a targeted collection of information in the field of military, military-technical activities of the Russian Federation, which, when received by a foreign source, can be used against the security of Russia,
          receive assistance from foreign sources (money, property, or even organizational and methodological assistance) laughing
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 13 October 2021 11: 32
    +16
    About power. This is from the same opera as the driving of the majors on the sidewalks, the quirks of the "stars" of theaters and cinemas, different graduates on the "geliks", etc. Showing their superiority over people in public. This is a disease of society. And it appeared with the advent of capitalism and the devaluation of morality. People are degrading against the background of the flusty deggeg over morality. That's all. The authorities write laws for themselves, daddies cover up and otmazyvayut their children, me ... sorry, the police are corrupt (in the bulbyandia there is still the police). The result is logical. To whip up bad people in the red square in front of their parents. And so with majors, children of officials, thieves. Like in China. Maybe something will be measured, but not ... Personally, my opinion hi PS Ulcers are cured only by complete cleansing, without residue
    1. Tony fergusson
      Tony fergusson 13 October 2021 12: 22
      0
      What does this fight have to do with capitalism? The attackers were rogue
    2. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 13 October 2021 12: 36
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      This is a disease of society. And it appeared with the advent of capitalism and the devaluation of morality

      Unfortunately, it appeared much earlier. Even before there was a concept of morality.
      This is the "law of the jungle" - a demonstration of the dominance of the strong.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 13 October 2021 11: 33
    +9
    Unfortunately, there are also many such monsters among their home-grown Slavs.
    But with what one really cannot but agree with the author, that those in power behave in such stories not very nicely.
    On the other hand, they are people too, human beings. They want to live without unnecessary strains, who are these "Kovalevs" to them - no one.
    But the similar ones for the diaspora are their own, and even such people are not abandoned there, there will always be someone to intercede for them. This is their tradition, unlike us. And there, among the intercessors, there may be "respected people", and it is more dear to offend such people ...
    1. Tony fergusson
      Tony fergusson 13 October 2021 12: 23
      -2
      About the diaspora - not everything is so simple
      More chatter than concrete action
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 13 October 2021 12: 38
      +4
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      This is their tradition, unlike us.

      When we unite we have a Russian revolt - senseless and merciless.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 13 October 2021 12: 47
        +9
        Quote: Dym71
        When we unite we have a Russian revolt - senseless and merciless.

        Comrade, well, for the unification! drinks
        "Maybe we won't catch up, but at least we will keep warm" (c)
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 13 October 2021 13: 13
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          "Maybe we won't catch up, but at least we will keep warm" (c)

          Remember what booze was (and more than once) in our Tula central market?
          They demolished everyone, except for persons with a Slavic appearance, I would not want to participate in such "events" anymore, honestly. hi
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 13 October 2021 13: 20
            +7
            Quote: Dym71
            Remember what booze was (and more than once) in our Tula central market?
            They demolished everyone, except for persons with a Slavic appearance, I would not want to participate in such "events" anymore, honestly.

            There are now totally Asians there. All Pirogov and Kaminsky. Even residence permits and documents were produced.
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 13 October 2021 13: 24
              +4
              Quote: Stroporez
              There are now totally Asians there. All Pirogov and Kaminsky.

              The fact is, however, just like that, even a pimple will not jump up, they are in demand.
              Quote: Stroporez
              Even residence permits and documents were produced.

              So we should not shake Pirogov and Kaminsky, but officials, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the same tax officials, do you agree?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 13 October 2021 13: 32
                +6
                Quote: Dym71
                So we should not shake Pirogov and Kaminsky, but officials, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the same tax officials, do you agree?

                I agree, then I agree, only to shake not even the locals, but the Moscow ones, but better than all together.
                On M. Gorky "exchange" of Asians, gather from 5 am, less than 2,5 tyrov / day. do not want to work.
                1. Dym71
                  Dym71 13 October 2021 13: 40
                  +5
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  I agree, then I agree, only to shake not even the locals, but the Moscow ones, but better than all together.

                  To start with our own people, otherwise they are used to ripping off everything from Sobyanin, and then at least the grass will not grow.
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  On M. Gorky "exchange" of Asians, gather from 5 am, less than 2,5 tyrov / day. do not want to work.

                  And this is because two Uzbeks and a shovel are replacing an excavator.
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 October 2021 12: 54
      +12
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      But with what one really cannot but agree with the author, that those in power behave in such stories not very nicely.

      Here one more question begs, for what Russian nationalists were dispersed and imprisoned.?
      What was Demushkin imprisoned for, for example?
      That is, in the diasporas, nationalism is in the order of things, and for Russians it is nizzyayayaya!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 13 October 2021 14: 32
        +6
        Quote: Stroporez
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        But with what one really cannot but agree with the author, that those in power behave in such stories not very nicely.

        Here one more question begs, for what Russian nationalists were dispersed and imprisoned.?
        What was Demushkin imprisoned for, for example?
        That is, in the diasporas, nationalism is in the order of things, and for Russians it is nizzyayayaya!

        Demushkin is very much afraid of the authorities, smart and intelligent .. and he has a lot of followers .. and the "fighting wing" is not theorists .. In general, when it comes to politics, the authorities imprison those who are afraid .. or kill.
      2. gsev
        gsev 13 October 2021 16: 58
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez
        for which they dispersed and imprisoned Russian nationalists.?
        What did Demushkin sit for, for example

        And where are the nationalists? At the VEFT company there was a Kyrgyz who, without a manual, learned the weight-dosing controller by typing better than me. When I recommended him to the management as a professional capable of completely replacing me, Ulugbek told me not to do this. From engineering duties he is taken up for repairs in the middle of the night, and no additional payment is given. The division in Russia takes place not according to nations, but according to classes. The servicemen understand that they can put nationalists in their place from the periphery. But the transfer of authority to engineering and design personnel will bury the domination of servicemen in Russia. True, at one time little Lithuania for half a century was able to subdue the most populated and populous parts of Russia, destroying the presumptuous Russian elite. Perhaps in the life of one generation, history will repeat itself. Painfully politely, Musk honors the descendants of S.P. Koroleva, speaks respectfully of ordinary engineers of Roscosmos and conducts a playful and playful verbal skirmish with the leadership of Roscosmos on topics that are understandable and close to them about trampolines and the abilities of Goliewood and Rogozin to organize filming of space fiction. It is also straining that Erdogan chose a husband from high-precision equipment manufacturers for his daughter, and not from fruit wholesalers or promising officers of the Turkish special forces ..
  • Jcvai
    Jcvai 13 October 2021 11: 33
    +8
    For politics, democracy and capitalism: right is not required, required is profitable and beautiful.
    Why organize the work of subordinate structures, if it is enough to go personally to high-profile events and, interfering with specialists on the spot, to portray activities in front of cameras and give out loud promises. Why finance socially important projects, if it is enough to occasionally give out crumbs from funds circulating in its circle. Etc
    This is exactly what "we have been striving for" since the collapse of the Soviet Union and what we have received.
    Therefore, the headline "When you are ashamed of your country. Farce performed by the authorities" and the following topic are completely "out of topic". We wanted the power of capital - we have, we must be proud, not ashamed. We wanted freedom from honor, conscience and morality - we have, where is the farce?
  • tatra
    tatra 13 October 2021 11: 41
    +6
    Under the USSR, if someone pushes someone in transport, steps on their feet, they immediately shout, swear, but now everyone is silent, if someone starts to fight, people immediately shout nearby, stop, now we will call the police, but now everyone is silent ...
    Why ? And because after the capture of the RSFSR by the enemies of the communists, FEAR settled in people, because they know that they have no rights before the bandits who can beat, maim, kill, and no one protects people, neither the authorities, nor the so-called law enforcement agencies.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 13 October 2021 12: 14
      +3
      Quote: tatra
      Under the USSR, if someone pushes someone in transport, steps on their feet, they immediately scream, swear, and now everyone is silent

      Do you yourself believe in what you write? There is less swearing - a fact, only for other reasons, people stopped ramming, and the driver is reprimanded for overcrowded transport.
      Quote: tatra
      if someone starts to fight, immediately people nearby are shouting, stop, now we will call the police, and now everyone is silent

      Pretty controversial statement yes
      Quote: tatra
      FEAR has settled in people, because they know that they have no rights before the bandits who can beat, maim, kill, and no one protects people, neither the authorities, nor the so-called law enforcement agencies.

      The bandits of the nineties fulfilled their function (forced to answer for words and actions in times of absolute lawlessness) and died out, as unnecessary. hi
  • Kittymoore
    Kittymoore 13 October 2021 11: 48
    +19
    The author, I do not argue that you are most likely an incredible Rimbaud with developed skills in hand-to-hand, knife fighting.

    But personally, for example, I am not a veteran of military operations, and jumping on three frolicking outlaws for me is suicide.

    This Kovalev is honored and praised, but I'll tell you straight - he was lucky. It was lucky that some of the highlanders decided to just kick him with their feet, and not inflict a couple of stabs.
  • Vlad Baryatinsky
    Vlad Baryatinsky 13 October 2021 11: 53
    +11
    Author!
    Let me tell you, the Open secret.
    Russia, not where it is heading. It has already slipped thanks to the Anti-People's clique that has settled in the Kremlin.
    If now, such excesses are fortunately the exception rather than the rule.
    Then in the future, "this" may result in a confrontation on the scale of the Country.
  • Bradley
    Bradley 13 October 2021 12: 01
    +13
    Men were afraid not so much of Caucasians as of responsibility for their actions.
    How could the fight end, especially when one of the Caucasians had a knife? If there was a three-by-three fight and there were injuries, then they would have entered the excess of self-defense. Who needs it?
    And then they beat up one man who stood up for the girl. It's simple, there are the attackers and the victim. However, if it were not for the vidos, then who knows what would have been imputed to Kovalev.
    Defending yourself or a conventional girl on the subway is dangerous from a legal point of view. You gave in the face and you catch an article about exceeding self-defense. There is a very fine line here.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 12: 07
      +16
      Quote: Bradley
      Men were afraid not so much of Caucasians as of responsibility for their actions.
      How could the fight end, especially when one of the Caucasians had a knife? If there was a three-by-three fight and there were injuries, then they would have entered the excess of self-defense. Who needs it?

      As in the well-known case with the Buryat Chimit Tarmaev, you can be guaranteed to sit for many years. Let me remind you that in the same metro 10 years ago he was attacked by a crowd of 6 citizens of the same nationality. He first ran away from them into the next car, and when they caught up with him, fighting back with a knife, he overwhelmed one. As a result - 8 years, from call to call. It came out that year. And he was still defending himself!
      1. Tamparu
        Tamparu 13 October 2021 18: 04
        0
        I read your comments and feel that I have already read them somewhere. And I remembered.
        https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7131020.html
        Don't you have your own thoughts? Either you are him, Cassad ...
        hi
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 13 October 2021 18: 31
          +1
          Cassad stole from here https://kottoblog.livejournal.com/320098.html
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2021 12: 03
    +5
    Are you satisfied that such scoundrels inspired by correct upbringing come to the country and behave like that?
    But to Moscow, to the capital of their Motherland - the Russian Federation, they did not come from abroad? They came from a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Dagestan, a constituent part of the Russian Federation. They are the same Russians as everyone else. Could it be something else? Why do they exist and how there are such .. to put it mildly boors.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 13 October 2021 12: 23
      0
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      But to Moscow, to the capital of their Motherland - the Russian Federation, they did not come from abroad? They came from a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Dagestan, a constituent part of the Russian Federation. They are the same Russians as everyone else.

      The novel is a hot man, plus a nationalist (in a good way, naturally), and that's what went on.
  • UltraTotenkopF
    UltraTotenkopF 13 October 2021 12: 23
    +8
    Everyone should remember one simple truth ... IF THERE IS AN OWNER IN THE HOUSE, guests do not dance lezginka in it! negative
  • vindigo
    vindigo 13 October 2021 12: 31
    0
    Something about that girl is silent, for whom Kovalev stood up. Probably, she ran away and forgot about her protector in a couple of minutes.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 October 2021 12: 34
    +1
    This time Roman, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. I said absolutely right, I support it 100%. good
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  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 October 2021 12: 39
    +6
    Nothing needs to be done, everything has already been invented.
    The authorities are required to scrupulously obey the laws, by ALL the inhabitants of the country, regardless of their positions and nationalities. This is the biggest problem, we have equals among equals and from here our legs just grow.
    Now the diaspora will "convince" the victim that he himself attacked women and hit his knee 5 times !!! And the authorities will keep silent .....................
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 October 2021 12: 44
    +2
    I give Roman a plus for the article.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 13 October 2021 12: 46
    -1
    An article with a smell. I don't quite understand, the author has any complaints about the guy who tried to intercede? Did he know in advance how he would be rewarded? Maybe the author is not allowed two million to sleep peacefully? Reasoning who is worthy and who is not. I don't know, maybe the author saved the world, but no one even praised him. Well then, of course.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 13 October 2021 12: 46
    +3
    The problem of real men

    Here about it - clearly Kassad wrote - neither add nor subtract.
    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7131020.html
    And the author - what he wrote there - is called provocation and incitement. By the way. they sit on the ambulance so often - they summoned them to everyday life, everyday life on arrival continues with a massacre, of course, the first thing to do is to the brigade, save, help, and the first to write to the cops later
    1. mz
      mz 13 October 2021 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      Here about it - clearly Kassad wrote - neither add nor subtract.
      https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7131020.html

      Good article. It is difficult to disagree with her, in contrast to the text of Mr. Skomorokhov.
  • bk316
    bk316 13 October 2021 12: 47
    +9
    Forgive Roman, but I strongly disagree with you.
    You wrote something naive.
    Let's take a look at the points.
    1. About the orgy of Supporting Kovalev.
    1.1 Firstly, he deserves it, and he must know that he is supported not only by us, but also by the state.
    1.2 Secondly, it is a political message. You know what it is. This is one of the main Russian methods of political governance. By the way, Stalin was a master of sending messages. The message is very simple - the state is on the side of Kovalev. So now every region can send such a message.

    2. About freaks who strain, but the state does nothing.
    2.1 First it does. The police wool nonresident and kakvkazev in particular in Moscow to the fullest.
    2.2 Secondly, this is the same message. About attempted murder, the message that now they will be imprisoned in full above the upper bar. This is called zero tolerance. For a Muscovite there would be a maximum of a hooligan.

    3. About a real man.
    3.1 To arrange a mess in a crowded carriage is this an exit? am ... You haven't seen a massive fight in the room. Dagov would of course have been stabbed, but how many women and children would have been broken?
    3.2 Therefore, calling the police is correct. Here the question is how she will work the police. And it worked great.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 October 2021 12: 49
    +7
    Under the USSR, he was not a simple witness, but under the protocol. That probably saved the person. One blow, in the sternum, but the blow was like a sledgehammer, the impudent flew five meters away. Diaspora immediately calmed down, but cut connections in the police. Murmansk was controlled by the Azerbaijanis of Mesalinsky district. And it did not save them. Everything depends on the authorities. I remember how in 1999 the new chief of police in Murmansk put in place the natives of the Caucasus, for three months, and everything was fine. There was such a comrade Filipov, who had previously put things in order in Vologda.
  • Per se.
    Per se. 13 October 2021 12: 50
    +8
    Roman, is it only these "heroes" that matter? It hurts society itself, morality itself. Nothing better than their scumbags, especially those for whom the law does not seem to be written at all, will be ransacked by rich parents, connections and nepotism. How many of them are in the same Moscow, these "inhabitants of heaven", including those in power. The value of being, money and show-off, that's the whole moral of their life, as well as its meaning - to sleep softly and eat sweetly, than they are not "organisms", or, "stomachs", "bodies" ...

    As a child, we were proud that we were born in the USSR, that the meaning is in the development of society, humanism, creativity, in flight to the stars. There is none of this now. Locusts give birth to locusts. Who will remember them after? ... And these wretched "children of the mountains" are only a consequence of general degradation.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 October 2021 12: 57
      +7
      Quote: Per se.
      It hurts society itself, morality itself. Nothing better than their scumbags, especially those for whom the law does not seem to be written at all, will be ransacked by rich parents, connections and nepotism. How many of them are there in the same Moscow, these "inhabitants of heaven", including those in power. The value of being, money and show-off, that's the whole moral of their life, as well as its meaning - to sleep softly and eat sweetly, than they are not "organisms", or, "stomachs", "bodies" ...

      As a child, we were proud that we were born in the USSR, that the meaning is in the development of society, humanism, creativity, in flight to the stars. There is none of this now. Locusts give birth to locusts. Who will remember them after? ... And these wretched "children of the mountains" are only a consequence of general degradation.

      Comment of the DAY !!!!! + 100500 hi
      In a sick society everyone gets sick!
    2. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2021 13: 01
      +2
      How many of them are there in the same Moscow, these "inhabitants of heaven", including those in power. The value of being, money and show-off, that's the whole moral of their life, as well as its meaning - to sleep softly and eat sweetly, than they are not "organisms", or, "stomachs", "bodies" ...
      The story of how a six-year-old "drunk" girl, Russian by the way, "threw herself" under a car, also driven by a Russian, is not forgotten. And how the Russians tried, a rich Russian, for money, otmazatsya from justice. Rights, absolutely, it's not about the "heroes" and what nationality they are. What kind of society, such "heroes". They are not taken from Mars.
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 13 October 2021 13: 08
      0
      Quote: Per se.
      And these poor "children of the mountains" are only a consequence of general degradation.

      I agree with you that it is in the general degradation. It is foolish to emphasize nationality. Look at the caught pedophile murderers, all Russians
    4. bk316
      bk316 13 October 2021 15: 01
      0
      There is none of this now. Locusts give birth to locusts.

      I have been living in Moscow since birth and remember her well since 80.
      The maximum street crime occurred in the 90s, so that now it is impossible to even compare.
      The fact that the article happened EVERY day and was perceived as routine, no one was even indignant. And there was no EP and GDP worked somewhere in Berlin. And there was not even a meadow yet.
      And what is surprising is that these outrageous people were born in the USSR and their parents were born under Stalin. And you "locust gives birth to locusts."

      And yes, of course, there is a problem with morality. Only after all those who shout "officials to the wall" have no less moral problems. How is it in the Bible "do not judge and you will not be judged"?
  • DmSol
    DmSol 13 October 2021 13: 03
    -1
    To be honest, I did not understand what the author specifically suggests. What does he want from the so-called. "Authorities". Well, except that the awards have already gone too far. Parents are raising children. And if in the Caucasus boys are raised mainly by fathers, then in our country it is mainly mothers. The result is obvious. Young egg-bearers are not only afraid to get into a fight for the weak, they will not concede a place to a child on a tram - everyone always owes them something.
    1. Kittymoore
      Kittymoore 13 October 2021 13: 10
      +8
      Of course it's obvious. Raised by the fathers of the gopot, with convictions and knives in her pockets, she turns the streets of cities into a battlefield. And egg-bearers pay taxes, work honestly and think that they live in the 21st century, and not according to the laws of the mountains.
      The stupid sheep studied in universities in order to have a specialty, but they had to spend all their time on a wrestling mat and a rocking chair.
      That is the whole result.
      1. DmSol
        DmSol 13 October 2021 13: 32
        -1
        What are your extremes - either only to study or only to the gym. Yes, to maintain the minimum shape, it is enough to knock on a pear or sip a kettlebell, for example, for ten minutes a day. But only every day. Try it and after half a year the result will surprise you. And you don't have to go to the gym. But this is so, by the way.
        And on the topic, this is a universal problem of civilized countries. We have Caucasians, Arabs in Europe. Generally speaking, there is no difference. So I don't understand in this connection what the author wanted from the “authorities”?
        1. Kittymoore
          Kittymoore 13 October 2021 13: 39
          0
          No form will help you against a person who is ready to kill. Read Drachev's story.

          The author does not want anything. He just whines, but does not dig deep.
          1. would
            would 13 October 2021 20: 21
            +1
            Drachev's story is just a very bad example. Drachev had no form, he was a powerlifter and did not know how to fight, but his opponent Allakhveranov, on the contrary, was an MMA fighter.
            1. Kittymoore
              Kittymoore 13 October 2021 20: 30
              +2
              In the context of the conversation, Drachev is an ideal example.
              He just pulled weights professionally, and not ten minutes. And he obviously followed the form carefully.
              And his opponent was ready to kill. And if you watched those shots, you should have noticed that Drachev was knocked out from the first blow, and then methodically finished off with multiple blows to the head.

              And I will bring the idea to the end: in such situations, a person without brakes always wins. This is just a civilizational advantage.

              But primitive man could already defeat this MMA fighter. Because he has no brakes at all.
              1. would
                would 13 October 2021 20: 36
                0
                He just pulled weights professionally, and not ten minutes. And he obviously followed the form carefully.


                What I'm talking about - he was not a fighter, he had no form. And to be more precise, his form was with a minus sign, since weightlifting enslaves. But his opponent was a fighter and as a result he won.
                1. Kittymoore
                  Kittymoore 13 October 2021 20: 42
                  0
                  Exactly. But it's not about technology. Drachev was simply not ready for what happened. He probably thought it was just a showdown. But I did not take into account that for the instincts of his opponent this is a struggle for survival. Therefore, he fought with him, and did not try to survive.
                  1. yaglon
                    yaglon 19 October 2021 19: 26
                    0
                    There, in general, there was just a dispute, which is cooler - MMA or powerlifting. You probably haven't watched the full video, there is almost an hour of fiddling. There was a lot of wrestling and the video clearly showed that Drachev did not own wrestling technique. Then we switched to striking technique, it also became clear that Drachev did not own striking technique either. And he was killed with more than one blow, as you write. A series of turntables (which he did not even parry) knocked Drachev off his feet, then he jumped up and his opponent immediately caught him with a kick in the opposite direction. And this terrible kick in the opposite direction became fatal, and the last finishing blow with his fists - it aggravated, but not much. And I do not agree that the willingness to kill, some animal instincts can greatly change something in a fight. Everything is decided by preparation, professionalism (as in a war). It goes without saying that a professional brawler is better prepared for a fight than a professional weightlifter.
              2. Rus18
                Rus18 13 October 2021 21: 18
                -1
                Just ten years ago, there were THOUSANDS of young people "ready to kill" in Moscow, St. Petersburg and in general in central Russia. Out of none, perhaps a hundred or two had pretty good training in terms of shooting, knife fighting, conspiracy. There were even more people who just had fun chasing the blacks - all kinds of fans there. This is perhaps an ideal example of "population suicide", when one population literally uproots aggression from itself (who was killed, who is in prison), while among neighbors this is considered not only the norm, but is brought up from childhood. There are no mothers reproaching sons for fighting in schools. They do not teach "to solve problems in a civilized way." There, it is considered normal if your relative / kinsman is in trouble first attack enemies with him, and then figure out whether he is right or wrong. And when a couple of such people find themselves in an atomized team from childhood, they are taught to "endure" and the fun begins - when 5-10 people keep a hundred in fear.
                1. Kittymoore
                  Kittymoore 13 October 2021 21: 26
                  -1
                  There are enough Russian gopota now. It's just that stories with her do not cause such a stir, but are commonplace.

                  The bottom line is civilization: a modern person can live in a modern society, but send him to Afghanistan and see what happens.
                  1. Rus18
                    Rus18 13 October 2021 21: 40
                    -1
                    The essence of the gopota is in its lack of ideology and predatory cowardice - I wrote to you about people who are ready to sit down until the panic or die, and that it is typical of those who did it. The "story" is that when, 15 years ago, similar animals attacked Russian guys, their leader was exponentially eliminated after being released from the cage under a subscription. And those guys who did it were then imprisoned up to the pancreas.
                    The essence of civilization is that society is as specialized as possible, as a result of which it is much more productive and efficient. A civilized person, if he does not, will not go to Afghanistan without a machine gun and a serious need. And it's better not even just with a machine gun, but as part of a highly organized army, cutting out everything that moves and trying to snap at him.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 13 October 2021 13: 07
    +4
    Red - in the sense of the security forces working for the state. ...
    The men were transferred - there was a situation in the park, a healthy one "from there" gave a splash to a fragile girl. A passer-by hit the bull. And he missed a bag in the head from the girl whom the bull was beating. Then he retired, and the girl bent over the guy who had weighed her splash.
    1. yaglon
      yaglon 19 October 2021 19: 34
      +1
      A very vital situation. They also walked with a friend, a girl runs up, she is all hysterical, crying - "the maniac is chasing me, save me, pamagitya!" And in fact the guy was running after her. She hid behind us, well, we chatted so calmly, and yes, at the end it turned out that the "maniac" is the husband with whom she had a falling out. And they left in an embrace altogether. I feel that if we became a "maniac" to twist, we would also receive from her.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 19 October 2021 19: 53
        +1
        And, possibly, a deadline.
        1. yaglon
          yaglon 19 October 2021 20: 49
          +1
          Yes, time, okay, to hell with him) They won't take them to Valhalla)) they don't take the dead from a blow to the head in a situation like "and missed a bag in the head from a girl" ... For this, Odin is very angry, although who is his knows, maybe such a death in battle is honorable. For me, any death in battle is honorable, even from a bag, even from a candelabrum over the head, as in an old joke.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 19 October 2021 23: 00
            +1
            Well, if they don't take to Valhalla, even more so laughing
  • Alex66
    Alex66 13 October 2021 13: 10
    +9
    The problem that the authorities do not notice is the infiltration of these migrants to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, deputies, heads of housing departments, to hospitals, what's wrong with that? And the fact that in their homeland they destroyed it all, after they drove out the Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians. Here the same will be repeated as soon as the critical mass is formed. They are not assimilated; they live according to their own order. They destroy, like a cancerous tumor, but they do not want to live in devastation.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 13 October 2021 13: 18
    +8
    I share Roman's opinion! A lot of strange things are happening in Russia! I agree that, giggling at the "Western perversions" and tolerance in Z. Europe for the lawlessness perpetrated by migrants ... condemning all this in words, Russia itself is moving along this path! There are dozens of incidents similar to the "resonant" one in Russia every or almost every day! But why did "this" case suddenly become so significant? Unclear! Or suddenly the authorities "discovered" that there are no "real men" left in the country, but only "amoebas" living in Russia? So who makes Russians "amoebas"? Yes, the same government with its uduotcky "tolerance"! Thanks to the "national" policy (or rather, the lack of it ...), national "enclaves" are already being formed in the country, covering ever larger territories! Moreover, the "government" is going to "import" millions more migrants to Russia! There was a feeling that the ruling regime set the task of accelerating the destruction of the Russian component of Russia ... to turn the word Russia into just a geographical name!
  • Ben Gunn
    Ben Gunn 13 October 2021 13: 20
    +5
    So gentlemen, deputies, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the RG and others - isn't it time to think about what is happening in Russia? Or does everything suit you? Are you satisfied that such scoundrels inspired by correct upbringing come to the country and behave like that?

    Unfortunately, they do not come, they are already here. They were born and raised here. And it was our government that carefully cultivated them with love and care for many years, indulging in every possible way any primitive "national peculiarities", convincing such beasts of their exclusiveness and impunity.
  • shubin
    shubin 13 October 2021 14: 31
    +8
    Stunned! It turns out that being a real man in Russia is equivalent to a feat! True, for this you need to get a snout from the Caucasians, and a medal on your chest! And if they were beaten to death, then what, the Order of Courage posthumously, or immediately the Hero of Russia? But the main insanity is that if he could sweep away those idiots, he would have sewn an article about inciting ethnic hatred, and a real deadline!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 13 October 2021 14: 34
    +1
    Over which we even need to think, not for us, but for those who are sitting in the Kremlin and the White House. This is their headache
    ... When we send all the problems to the top, we hope for a "good master", the northern fur-bearing animal will soon visit all of us and nothing else.
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 13 October 2021 14: 37
    +6
    Now let's turn the situation around. Kovalev, for example, when he was beaten, twisted his jaw to one. Then he was finally kicked. And these three can easily declare that it was he who attacked, he broke, and they defended themselves. Everything happened, relatively well, because the video scattered. And if not? Kovalev - on the bunk! These are our laws. Therefore, there are no heroes to save someone. You sit down. 100%.
    1. frruc
      frruc 13 October 2021 18: 56
      -3
      And these three can easily declare that it was he who attacked, he broke, and they defended themselves.

      You wrote nonsense. These three are recidivist gangsters, previously convicted, moreover, they were pricked or drunk. They will sit down in any case and for a very long time. But I don’t even want to write about such "cautious" people with telephones. Thanks to Kovalev, I respect him. Moreover, he is my fellow countryman.
  • ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 13 October 2021 14: 39
    +1
    I agree, without excuses.
    One question, would the author go to the knife?
    If yes, then he is a hero of our time and his deputy of the State Duma, the next convocation.
    I vote Yes.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 13 October 2021 14: 43
    +4
    Just with Dagestan, that medicine is very simple and effective. If you stop being mean and flirtatious, saying that they have no nationality, then there are a lot of them in Dagestan. And to just name it without lies (that they were Avars, Laks, Lezgins, Dargins, for example, we know who they are exactly), from such a village, and they are the son of this, that and that, then we would have already allies in the older generation of Dagestanis.
    For that is a shame to get on TV, that this people, the village and the father raised a bad son, and this worked for centuries. Why now they decided that it is not so now - I do not understand.
    How, however, and how you can reach 70% of the voluntarily vaccinated ... This does not happen. Forced - easily, but voluntarily - no.
    Well, about the easy disposal of not your own money ... So it is not even feudalism, when the lord could bestow something, but within the limits of his power and budget, here is democracy, when we do not even know what really belongs to anyone and why or other decisions ...
  • sifgame
    sifgame 13 October 2021 15: 00
    +2
    Lombroso's theory in action. You look at this gorilla and everything is clear. If only he knew who Dolce and Gabbana prefer in sex))))
  • Grandfather Mozai
    Grandfather Mozai 13 October 2021 15: 13
    0
    Provincials, football hooligans sort out the situation with Roman.
  • riddik70
    riddik70 13 October 2021 15: 32
    +2
    In the 90s, there was a practice of patrol of the patrol service in commuter trains. At least in Tatarstan. I don't know who I turned to, but I think this practice should be conducted everywhere!
  • Temnukhin Anton
    Temnukhin Anton 13 October 2021 15: 43
    +5
    I would like to speak about the second point, but I can hardly say more succinctly and better than Ivan Kott in his note. Let me cite an excerpt from it:

    "And when someone in the carriage makes a noise, and an active aunt calls on those same men to do something, then such a man stands, scrolls all this in his head (previously there was a description of two options for the development of events 1) or you put the hooligans and you they will punish you for exceeding or aggression if you hit first 2) or they will put you down and it’s good if not to death) and understands that now, out of the blue, she can ruin her whole future life. , wives, daughters. They will never approve when they find out that their son / husband / father will be bedridden due to abuse in the subway until the end of his life. Or will leave for years to vacuum Siberia. And what should a man choose? "Who is more important to him? It is very easy to talk about some abstract men who have died. Because everyone is on the fate of an abstract man. He just has to solve the problem, and what will happen to him next - by @ er. Therefore, all sufferers for real men, you should always keep in mind by n their son / husband / brother / father / friend. Are they ready for him specifically to die in a fight because of swearing in the subway or sat down?

    But citizens who howl about absent men live in their own rosy world. There you can somehow calm down three drunken swaggering degenerates with knives so that no one even gets hurt and everything will end quietly and peacefully, and everyone will remain friends. Apparently, with a kind word and fatherly advice. But this only happens in sofa fantasies. In life, aggression is suppressed only by more aggression. And this, in turn, leads to health problems for some and with the law for others. Unfortunately, this is how real life works. She is, surprise, cynical and cruel. And these are not questions of masculinity and courage. This is the usual common sense, without which it is impossible. The stakes are very high. Sitting or lying down protecting yourself and your loved ones is one thing. Defending the life of a stranger is different. But getting all the same just because of someone's abuse in the subway is generally the third.

    But what should have been done in this situation? Yes, exactly the same as, in the end, and did - press the button for communication with the driver and call the police to the car. This is what solved the problem. Not the intercession of a guy who heroically fell in an unequal battle, but the police called on the button, which detained the degenerates. Only now they called her, for some reason, after the beating. But it was necessary right away. Not to climb with useless remarks to the degenerates, but to call specialists to communicate with them. Even if they figure it out, this is their job, they are paid for it from our taxes. Then everything would have happened exactly the same, but the guy would not have been hurt. Let me remind you that the degenerate, when detained by the police, took out a knife. And if a police officer has a service certificate and can shoot such a creature like a mad dog, then a citizen cannot do this. A citizen, with a 100% probability, will be stabbed to death.

    And the question to indignant citizens from the sofas should be put differently: not "why did the peasants extinct", but "why the smart ones extinct", regardless of gender? Why are they ready to go into conflict with the three degenerates, but not ready to press the button to communicate with the driver? There are a bunch of buttons in the car, press any button. Why hasn't anyone done this? Why, in order to press it, they first wait for a person to be kicked? Previously, religion does not allow you to press? Why do they howl and demand that some men solve the problem, but stubbornly refuse to call other men, who are paid for these calls? "
  • Markus wolf
    Markus wolf 13 October 2021 15: 56
    +2
    To begin with, introduce into use and lexicon the forgotten correct terms: foreigners and gentiles. This will immediately make language and communication simple, clear and unambiguous ...
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 13 October 2021 19: 09
      +1
      Quote: Markus Wolf
      introduce into use and lexicon the forgotten correct terms: aliens and gentiles.

      For example, I use these "terms" ... But not always "allow"!
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 13 October 2021 16: 23
    +2
    I sincerely wish U. Roman Skomorokhov to find himself in a similar situation. In this case, the hero of the article escaped charges of exceeding the limits of self-defense due to receiving grievous bodily harm. How do you get a prospect in the neck from three thugs (he's not a super hand-to-hand fighter) or sit down for several years if self-defense turns out to be "successful"? This is 1.
    2. This is the subway, once again Metro, in each car there is a button to call the driver, they called, he calls the police and that's it, specially trained people are engaged in individuals. Why was it done after the fight? Why doesn't the Author mention this simple algorithm? request
  • Codett
    Codett 13 October 2021 16: 34
    0
    It's only the beginning
  • unaha
    unaha 13 October 2021 16: 43
    0
    I didn't understand at all: "The costs of democracy ...", the author - what does democracy have to do with it ?! How has democracy (the right to vote and to be elected) influenced the criminality of the diaspora?
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 13 October 2021 16: 47
    +3
    And what can I do, I climbed in, gave one to two, they did not run away from the car, the police came running and they knit me just like these ugly ones. Then, I am extreme, and they, after financial infusions from the diaspora, will turn out to be innocent. they are suspended, I have a term so as not to fence problems.
  • nickolai.maliugin
    nickolai.maliugin 13 October 2021 16: 57
    +1
    In a country where smoke is considered a greater evil than indifference, all this is natural. When there were communal apartments, men put things in order on their own. Now everyone has settled in their apartments. They will kill, they will not interfere. One must take care of one's health, that's the slogan of the country. That is what they take care of. But it’s interesting if they’d hit a combat athlete. I have no doubt about that.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 13 October 2021 17: 09
    +4
    So gentlemen, deputies, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the RG and others - isn't it time to think about what is happening in Russia? Or does everything suit you?
    Yes, it does. More than. Because the diaspora has already collected money and sent it to all the listed "law enforcement" bodies. These vile Russian-speakers, who are no longer called Russians, continue to hope for the observance of the law and do not carry money. Why are they, such, are needed by the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others?
    And there is no need to blame the rest of the passengers of the carriage. It was not great work to calm the three scoundrels. But to get an almost inevitable period for "exceeding", wow. This is serious, and it would have happened to a guy if the social network hadn't come to the rescue. We are strangers in our once own country ...
    1. fax66
      fax66 13 October 2021 17: 33
      0
      Kapets ... The overwhelming majority of comments boil down to the fact that someone is to blame: the laws, the government, the Duma, the police ... That's it! just not ourselves ... those who were traveling in the same carriage .. it was we who were traveling, or our friends, brothers, fathers ... BUT! someone did not give them to intervene and help (who? see the first line).
      Upbringing is now like that, especially the generation born in the 90s and beyond ... There is no one to educate and, it turns out, there is no need. Only the teacher will start to drive at least some moral principles into the students - parents will immediately come running: "We hired you to provide educational services, and not ... blah blah blah" (you can think of it yourself). Nobody but ourselves is to blame for this. Be honest, at least to yourself.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 13 October 2021 17: 45
        +3
        Again. Not "someone". And quite specific police and special forces. Which, based on the results of video analysis, find and steadily imprison everyone who cannot or does not want to pay off. It's good if you have an apartment in Moscow. Approximately this will be the price for the fact that you would intercede (you never interceded. And never intercede. Hence your bravado) for a woman.
        This is the law enforcement in the country.
        If there were no cameras in the metro, you could try, but only if the witnesses cannot identify you, because they will certainly be identified. Often a person goes to jail thanks to the testimony of the people he has saved. The Russian state is thoroughly disposed to suppress honor, conscience and mutual assistance, if this mutual assistance is not expressed in bribes.
        Kapets. Yeah ...
        And yes, the guy was extremely lucky to be seriously damaged. If he knew how to fight even a little better, he would already be in prison, where he would have come out, with luck, in six years.
        1. Rus18
          Rus18 13 October 2021 19: 01
          +1
          Yes, one of the few adequate comments. Especially in terms of cameras and general degeneracy of the majority of citizens who (all these policemen, special forces and snoopers do not live in separate Russia, their daughters and wives, for the most part, walk along the same streets) instead of a logical mutual guarantee to protect their own stand up for strangers.