The US press predicts the third and fourth world wars

Two global armed conflicts may start on our planet. Such a development of events is capable of causing growing US-Chinese contradictions.

This scenario is described by the American columnist Robert Farley in his article published by the portal 19FortyFive.

Thus, the US press predicts the third and fourth world wars, which may begin on the planet in the near future. Farley suggests that China and the United States will not be able to resolve their differences as a result of one major war, so at least one more will follow.

According to the observer, everything will begin with a clash between Washington and Beijing over Taiwan. And whoever wins, the US-China conflict will not be resolved. If successful in the armed conflict of the United States, the Chinese will only conclude a temporary truce and begin preparations for the next war to reclaim the island.

If Beijing wins the first conflict, it will rally a number of countries in the region around the United States. And closer rapprochement of Washington with Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and other East Asian countries will eventually lead to a new clash with China, Farley said.

At the same time, the author hopes that his prediction will not come true.

Actually, it should be borne in mind that a full-scale armed US-Chinese conflict can cause the deployment of military operations in the United States. And that the United States has so far managed to avoid. Also, for some reason, the Western author does not take into account that the third world war in general may become the last for China, the United States and all mankind - for the reason that these countries have huge nuclear arsenals.

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[Zaurbek]

The main thing is, without us ... in the 20th century, we exceeded all the norms. We need to write a note, let one missile reach Britain.

[Peak]

The US press predicts the third and fourth world wars

Are they arguing with Einstein?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: PiK

Are they arguing with Einstein?

Do you think they remember who it is?

[hrych]

Quote: Seryoga64

This is even more accurate

Let's get closer to the topic A military conflict between the United States and China over Taiwan will not be a world war. Moreover, it will be cleaner on Earth if you burn the PRC and part of the United States (China has a gut for everything)

[Seryoga64]

Quote: hrych

A military conflict between the United States and China over Taiwan will not be a world war.

May there be no military conflict between nuclear powers over a piece of land

[El Chuvachino]

You don't seem to understand what Taiwan is.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: El Chuvachino

You don't seem to understand what Taiwan is.

Whatever he imagines, but 2 nuclear superpowers will not unleash a nuclear war because of him without any guarantees of their victory

[El Chuvachino]

There was no talk of a nuclear war.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: El Chuvachino

There was no talk of a nuclear war.

And even more so, he will not fight with ordinary weapons.

[ZAV69]

Quote: hrych

Moreover, it will be cleaner on Earth if you burn the PRC and part of the United States (China has a gut for everything)

No one knows exactly what lies in the Chinese arsenals. Perhaps the PRC can split the United States several times in a row

[hrych]

Main nuclear center and ammunition storage site destroyed by the Sichuan earthquake. Either a disarming strike with a geo-weapon, or they detonated themselves, or nature is against the Chinese. They dragged their remnants to the border of the Russian Federation, hid behind the arc of our territory so that the Americans could not destroy. The Americans need to cross the territory of the Russian Federation with their striking means. Time passed, but they had to rebuild nuclear logistics practically from scratch. Therefore, the PRC has limited opportunities. Also, the remoteness of the United States requires powerful missiles, with this the problem, the hope for submarines to swim closer. The main arsenal was made up of medium-range missiles. Before Sichuan, there were 50 ICBMs and monoblock ones, and then, some experts wrote that they could not reach the entire territory, but could only attack the west coast, but it was quite enough to deter it. Geography is against them. Our ICBMs fly 6-9 thousand to the USA. And from China to the United States 12-14 thousand. Those. their ICBMs need to fly twice, almost three times as far as ours.

[hrych]

Israeli commentator VO under the nickname Professor?

[Catfish]

Truly so, what kind of a fourth world war can we talk about when one-third of humanity is drunk to the bone, if it does not cease to exist at all.

[Alex777]

Let the retired forecasts rivet. But in reality, negotiations are underway:

Vice Premier of the State Council of the People's Republic of China Liu He discussed with the US representative in trade negotiations Catherine Tai the lifting of sanctions and customs duties. This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to China Central Television.
During the talks, Liu He also explained Beijing's position on the Chinese model of economic development. The representatives of China and the United States expressed the main concerns of their countries and agreed to address them through dialogue.

[Catfish]

Well, thank God, the only thing missing was a global catastrophe. I believe that neither there nor there are complete idiots, and no one will benefit from this.

[Alex777]

The states of Nuland sent to us.
For negotiations and re-education.
Nuland's husband is an ideologue of the neocons.
A prominent representative of deep state.
That's why she's going, not Blinkin.
Therefore, she was given an entry visa.
Exchange for ours - for decency ...

[Catfish]

Nuland was sent to us.
For negotiations and re-education.

And who will reeducate whom: Vika - Vova, or Vova - Vika.

[Alex777]

So Nuland will not be allowed to the GDP.
Ryabkov and Kozak will be enough for her.
IMHO, they will discuss Ukraine.

[paul3390]

The main thing is without us.

It won't work without us. Russia cannot allow the military defeat of China, because in this case, this whole horde will take on us in a complete stop. No options. And Putin's Russian Federation is by no means the Soviet Union, alone - against the West we will never be able to handle it. Moreover, if the Far Eastern front is also opened against us, and it will be opened if China falls.

[Zaurbek]

You can not afford without a war ... there is experience in creating "air defense zones" ... especially since the Su35 and Su30 are produced in China ... and the S300-400 is there ...

[paul3390]

If it starts there, the main battles will be at sea. Nobody is going to land in mainland China. Bad nema. But if the PRC loses the sea - they are kirdyk. Crushed by the blockade. And - what will our S-400s and SU-shki do here a lot? We have practically no fleet in those places. So the only alternative will be maximum pressure in Europe, with the aim of diverting American forces in this direction. With all that it implies ..

[Peak]

Quote: paul3390

if the PRC loses the sea - they are kirdyk. Crushed by the blockade.

You mainland china , Taipei Island not confused?
Are you sure that China has an amba in the presence of long land borders, including with us?

[paul3390]

Look at the structure of their transportation. The basis is the sea. It will not be blocked by any Transsib and BAM.

[Peak]

Quote: paul3390

And you look at the structure of their transportation

What is the "structure of transportation" in the conditions of total war, when everything will be rearranged on a war footing?

Or do you seriously think that Apple Lossless Audio CODEC (ALAC), will it still work?

[Zaurbek]

And bomb the industrial centers? Factories, shipyards .....

[Alex777]

And whose factories and shipyards are these? Half are Western?

[mvg]

// experience in creating air defense zones //
He is always sad. The initiative is always on the side of aviation. Bombed OTR and KR, then a simple cast iron will be enough. Syria as an indicator.

[Stepan S]

And Putin's RF is by no means the Soviet Union,

Judging by this phrase, it was Putin who destroyed the USSR alone? Or would a non-Putin Russia be like the Soviet Union? But as history shows, Russia could no longer exist at the pace with which it was taken up in the 90s.

[Zaurbek]

In some ways, it is not necessary to act like the USSR ....... how much money was thrown into China and the DPRK? Egypt, Syria? What have we got from this?

[Alex777]

Strange as it may seem, but the memories of the times of the USSR are now playing into our hands. Around the world.
The chief for Egypt, last week, demanded the withdrawal of foreign troops from Syria. Following the GDP.
In Libya, the Turks were stopped only when the Egyptians drew a red line and threatened to invade.
Syria, in general, is such a center of influence for the Russian Federation, which has changed the whole alignment in the Middle East.

[Zaurbek]

It is always necessary to draw up a balance ........ how much did the USSR lost there and how much did we gain there and could it be done cheaper? So in Syria and Egypt, the balance is not in our favor.

[Alex777]

how much did the USSR lost there and how much did we gain there and could it be done cheaper?

Of course, everything could have been done much better.
I mean that despite the problems after the collapse of the USSR and the "politics" of the 90s, Russia still has advantages now.

Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.

It's not time to strike a balance yet. The game is in full swing.

[Zaurbek]

Take China, for example, and how it deals with money and debt ...

[Alex777]

Quote: Zaurbek

Take China, for example, and how it deals with money and debt ...

I am not interested enough in China to support the conversation meaningfully. But I can draw your attention to the story with Evergrande.

Chinese authorities have asked local officials to prepare for a possible collapse of property developer Evergrande, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing sources. They were encouraged to gather groups of accountants and lawyers to study the finances associated with Evergrande's operations in their regions, the newspaper said. According to sources of the publication, this indicates the reluctance of the PRC authorities to provide financial assistance to a company burdened with large debts ...
Evergrande's total liabilities, including accounts payable, are about 1,97 trillion yuan ($ 305 billion), equivalent to about 2% of China's GDP. Earlier this week, one of China's largest developers already missed out on interest payments on loans to two banks.

Read more at RBC:
https://quote.rbc.ru/news/article/614c63699a79474ad3b9fb57

[URAL72]

"And Putin's RF"

Why Putin's? This is Gorbachev-Yeltsin Russia. Putin only brought her to her senses, and does not risk making another revolution. It will most likely be fatal to us. The West, and even the East, will not allow themselves the mistakes of the 90s, to immediately rush to ransack the country that has lost control and plunged into bloody chaos.

[Shket53]

And Putin's RF is by no means the Soviet Union, and alone it is impossible to stand against the West. Moreover, if the Far Eastern front is also opened against us, and it will be opened if China falls ..... Hello .... Shoo again, everything is gone ... and it's so straight ... and we can't do it? Well, when suddenly the Strategic Missile Forces will say its weighty word ... and after them SILENCE ... Why do we need this world, if there is no Russia .... Oh ... it seems this is tovarISCh Putin said.

[credo]

Quote: Zaurbek

The main thing is, without us ... in the 20th century, we exceeded all the norms. We need to write a note, let one missile reach Britain.

The main thing is that the issue of the use of nuclear weapons by both sides has not been disclosed, despite the fact that both sides possess them.
In general, another horror story sucked from the finger, in order to prevent old Joe from sequestering the US budget and thereby reducing deductions to his native Ministry of Defense.

[Saints]

By the way, the Chinese have losses from 1937 to 1945 comparable to ours. Well, not considering the total population of course.

[Zaurbek]

under 50 million losses from China

[Saints]

According to Chinese official estimates, the total losses are about 35 million military personnel and civilians. This is the Kuomintang and the PRC. Also keep in mind that the war lasted 8 years. I saw estimates even less, but by no means 50.

[Zaurbek]

Maybe taking into account the genocide by the Japanese?

[Saints]

Of the 35 million civilians, about 17 million. In general, they also had the same tin.

[Zaurbek]

Or 50 with Koreans ..... The Japanese were tough than the Germans

[URAL72]

It is necessary to write a note, let one missile reach Britain. "

And for England I do not feel sorry for anything. 50 warheads are possible. The island must become a radioactive desert. In general, the problem is that there is no USSR. Then the balance in the APR would be balanced. Now, Russia cannot even take on the security of Vietnam.

[Alex777]

Quote: URAL72

And for England I do not feel sorry for anything. 50 warheads are possible. The island must become a radioactive desert.

We started well. Wanga has already promised that Britain will drown.

Now, Russia cannot even take on the security of Vietnam.

We finished badly. Such allies as Vietnam are not to be scattered about. The main thing is to put everything quietly and imperceptibly in time.
We don't need presentations like AUKUS. We will not sell nuclear submarines.

[URAL72]

An ally like Vietnam is successfully building up American, European, Japanese factories ... And Cam Ranh offers us for good money, while blackmailing that he is ready to lease the base to the United States.

[Alex777]

Quote: URAL72

An ally like Vietnam is being successfully built up with American, European, Japanese factories ...

This is how Russia is being built up. If possible.
There is no catch here. The richer the Vietnamese are, the stronger their army will be.

And Cam Ranh offers us for good money, while blackmailing that he is ready to lease the base to the United States.

Vietnam never blackmails us. As they said that the States will not be given anything there, they will not be given anything. Although they just dream of moving in.

[Grandfather]

The US press predicts the third and fourth world wars

that is, the third is coming, and the fourth is the last ... but I don't mind, all of you politicians are already bored.

[Orange bigg]

.In the US press predict the third and fourth world wars

Let us then immediately the tenth world war. What to waste time on trifles?

[skif8013]

Stocking up on popcorn? The main thing is that the breeze does not cover us)

[vtiper]

The third is nuclear, and the fourth with clubs

[gregor6549]

If a turmoil between China and Taiwan begins, it will most likely be the beginning of the 3rd (and last) World War. Nobody will be able to sit out in their "cellars".
And after that, there will be no one to start or lead the 4th World War.
This, by the way, was very well understood back in the 70s of the 80s of the last century and did everything possible to prevent World War III from happening. Maybe because among the mighty of this world there were many people in one way or another affected by the Second World War. But most of the current rulers of the world did not experience the "charms" of that war in their own skin. Therefore, they are eager to fight.
The country duty officer M. Zhvanetsky once said wonderful words: "What only doctors do not do with a patient, he stubbornly crawls into the cemetery." And he was right. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the quote, but its meaning is something like this. Only now we are talking not about an individual patient, but about all of humanity, although some of its representatives still hope to go to heaven, while at the same time harboring the illusion that all adversaries will go to hell.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: gregor6549

"What doctors do not do with the patient, he stubbornly crawls into the cemetery."

- "Sister, maybe to the intensive care unit?"
- The doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue

[HAM]

One strike by China on the territory of the United States --- and no more and never wars ... even if this strike is not nuclear ... its own skin is very dear to the Yankees ..

[Doccor18]

Quote: HAM

One blow by China on the territory of the United States - and no more and never wars ...

If only ...
The United States was formed by the end of the 18th century, and to play a replacement role in politics and economics only by the end of the 19th century. And that, before that there were few wars? Without the United States, and with them, wars have been, are and will be, sadly. The man still has not learned to negotiate ...

[Grits]

Quote: HAM

One blow by China on the territory of the United States - and no more and never wars ...

The Pindo-Stanisers will have more nuclear charges. And long-range missiles too. So the Chinese will be much more hurt.

[abrakadabre]

The Pindo-Stanisers will have more nuclear charges. And long-range missiles too. So the Chinese will be much more hurt.

In the case of a massive missile launch from the US, no one will figure out whether all of them are flying to China or some of them will be sent to us. Despite the fact that they all carry more than one warhead.
Moreover, most likely, the routes will run through the pole. As in the case of hitting us. So our strategic nuclear forces will take part in the fireworks. And then the US and Europe will definitely have enough.

[Marconi41]

Quote: abrakadabre

In the case of a massive missile launch from the US, no one will figure out whether all of them are flying to China or some of them will be sent to us. Despite the fact that they all carry more than one warhead.

That is why the United States will not do it. They will merge as in Afghanistan.

[abrakadabre]

That is why the United States will not do it. They will merge as in Afghanistan.

I'm about the same. Even if all the warheads are selected and it is clearly established that they are not flying at us, there will be a retaliatory strike. Because after an American strike, a large continental-wide contamination zone appears at the country's borders. Which will by no means have a beneficial effect on Russia over the years and years. What can be safely equated with a direct nuclear attack on us.

[HAM]

It's a little not about who has a bigger club, but about the fact that the Yankees will not accept and will not withstand attacks on their territory ... their wars are always somewhere far from the states and they have forgotten what their own pain is ... but how to do it hurting others, they have no equal in this ... and all these predictions are just talk about nothing ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

So the Chinese will be much more hurt.

... it is unlikely ... striped nuclear power plants have a lot, .. at the moment, strikes on nuclear power plants in thermonuclear disassembly will be a priority .. well, further along the way, there is nothing to talk about .. any missile defense there is an illusion ... this, despite the stupidity of the striped officials, their puppeteers are unlikely to want to part with what they have at the moment

[askort154]

"We, as martyrs, will go to heaven, and they will simply die" - Putin at Valdai. About those who will unleash a nuclear war.

[Doccor18]

If successful in the armed conflict of the United States, the Chinese will conclude only a temporary truce

In the event of a US victory, the PRC will face the fate of Yugoslavia ...

If Beijing wins the first conflict, it will rally a number of countries in the region around the United States.

Who will need this USA then? Japan will launch its own global policy. R. Korea will also become a completely independent state, by the way, I do not exclude the future unification of Koreas. Without Democrats, this is more plausible.
So these wars are needed by the United States, and nobody else. But if the overseas manage to lose, then there will be no "fourth" ", just the PRC will take the place of the current hegemon, with all that it implies ... and a specific oriental flavor ...

[Per se.]

Quote: Doccor18

So these wars are needed by the United States, and nobody else.

They wage wars, but either when seven against one, or by someone else's hands and on foreign territory. The United States will not be at war with China, just as the PRC will not be at war with the United States. Moreover, Russia will not be at war with the United States either. We now have one semblance, as Zyuganov portrays the opposition to the ruling Russian government, and the ruling Russian government portrays the opposition to the United States, essentially fulfilling all the demands of the Americans. Likewise, the Chinese, with their world counterfeit factory, and this factory is alive and well as long as the United States, or rather, transnational monopolies, allow it.

You recently said that capitalism does not change. It changes and changed earlier, there was even a positive in it, while there was a COMPETITION. Now, when transnational monopolies have emerged, competition has become a fiction, high-quality, "eternal" goods are no longer needed by monopolies, they will already impose any one-time junk, forcing them to buy what they produce, eradicating any possible competition to their arbitrariness. This is the difference between the past and the present state of capitalism, especially with the disappearance of external competition and with socialism. Nonsense about the "third" and "fourth" world war over Taiwan and I do not want to comment. A more real danger to war is China's expansion to the north, where fresh water, fertile soils and other raw materials are vital for China.

[Doccor18]

good afternoon

Quote: Per se.

We now have one semblance, as Zyuganov portrays the opposition to the ruling Russian government, and the ruling Russian government portrays the opposition to the United States

I absolutely agree.

Quote: Per se.

You recently said that capitalism does not change.

I meant that its basis (essence) does not change - making a profit at any cost, or super-profit, ignoring any laws of state and morality ... Everything else is particular.

Quote: Per se.

... there was even a positive in him, while there was a COMPETITION.

The trend towards monopolization in the capitalist world was visible even a century and a half ago. And monopoly and competition are, in principle, incompatible things ...

Quote: Per se.

Nonsense about the "third" and "fourth" world war over Taiwan and I do not want to comment.

The third (and last) world war can only happen between capitalism and socialism, because they are irreconcilable ...

Quote: Per se.

A more real danger for war is China's expansion to the north, where fresh water, fertile soils and other raw materials are vital for China.

I partially agree, although ... they already have nothing to refuse. But the threat emanating from the Middle East, in the form of entire pseudo-states, which are completely under the control of the Islamists, is a harsh reality that cannot be simply dismissed ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Doccor18

So these wars are needed by the United States, and nobody else.

do you need? rather, it is an inevitable US nightmare. nuclear weapons will definitely not be used in war. retaliation is inevitable, and this is a ticket to the Stone Age. Is it so easy to drain their hegemony to the Europeans and Russia? nah the United States will not agree to this.
China won't go either. China needs Taiwan as a part of China, and not as a radioactive garbage dump in China that requires constant injections of resources. so there will be only a conventional one, possibly a hybrid one. China has its own lobby in Taiwan.
in the event of a conventional war, the United States has no chance. too large a leverage of logistics and too scattered forces around the world.
so the US has a fresh disgrace on its nose more serious than Afghanistan they will try to get out of there without completely losing face, but most likely they will not succeed. the problem is that Taiwan is no longer some Afghan translators, but whose ally will have to be drained ...
PS
Xi has already officially stated that Taiwan is the territory of China. will pick up ... maybe at the end of this year, maybe next. and Taiwan's hopes for US aid are about the same as Poland's hopes for Britain and France in 1939 ...

[Doccor18]

Quote: SanichSan

... rather, this is an inevitable US nightmare.

Not so simple.

Quote: SanichSan

China needs Taiwan as a part of China, and not as a radioactive garbage dump in China that requires constant injections of resources. so there will be only a conventional one, possibly a hybrid one. China has its own lobby in Taiwan.

Exactly. China needs a prosperous Taiwan. Therefore, this lobby will work ... But the work is not fast, years, and perhaps decades ...

Quote: SanichSan

in the event of a conventional war, the United States has no chance. too large a leverage of logistics and too scattered forces around the world.

The shoulder is not so great, from the base in Okinawa only 12 hours of full speed on the aircraft carrier ... The Chinese will not bomb Okinawa, because the capital connection of the Japanese Navy to the operation will make the naval operation completely illusory ...
And what will happen in 10-15 years, who knows ... The Chinese Navy will get stronger and mature, but the opponents will also get stronger. The US Navy will build a dozen and a half more nuclear submarines as many Berks and frigates, will have 5 Fords, and will complete the fifth generation carrier-based aircraft and UAVs to the eyeballs. The British Navy will have 6 newest nuclear submarines and Australia 12, plus 30 modern nuclear submarines with VNEU for the Koreans and the Japanese.
So, right off the bat, you won't understand who the time is working for now ... But it is pointless to take Taiwan by military means, now and in the future. Only peaceful integration.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Doccor18

The shoulder is not so great, from the base in Okinawa only 12 hours of full speed on the aircraft carrier ...

and what's in Okinawa? aircraft carrier? against China ??? it will only make China laugh. what else is there? 20000 US Marines (ideally)? against several million-strong Chinese army? well, the whole army will not be driven there ... a small operation will be carried out with 300-400 thousand forces ... US forces in the region are negligible compared to China.
suppose a fantastic story, the United States drove all 11 of its aircraft carriers to Okinawa. how long will they live under the blows of the Chinese anti-ship missiles and aviation? at best a day. as a result, the United States loses its status as a maritime superpower. will they take such a risk for the sake of some kind of Taiwan? nah
China has all the means for a quick military solution of its tasks and no one in the region can interfere with them. why will they stop? because of 20000 marines in Okinawa and 1 aircraft carrier which is constantly at gunpoint? very doubtful ...

Quote: Doccor18

The US Navy will build a dozen and a half more nuclear submarines as many Berks and frigates, will have 5 Fords, and will complete the fifth generation carrier-based aircraft and UAVs to the eyeballs. The British Navy will have 6 newest nuclear submarines and Australia 12, plus 30 modern nuclear submarines with VNEU for the Koreans and the Japanese.

and how do you like a more realistic option?
The United States will receive 1 Ford, not 5, while China will receive 5 aircraft carriers. American stealth will finally become garbage in connection with the adoption of ROFAR. the number of UAVs will remain in the range of 3-4 hundred scattered around the world. instead of dozens of berks, another 1-2 volts with no longer working secrecy (ROFAR). useless LCS instead of frigates. The British Navy will have a hard time maintaining old nuclear submarines, spending a lot of money on renting a nuclear submarine base that seceded from Ireland and feverishly figuring out who to lease a second aircraft carrier for the maintenance of which there is no money. Australia will receive a fig instead of submarines, just as the British did with a battleship built for Australia. these submarines and become those nuclear submarines that the United States will receive. and South Korea will return to Korea after China sorts out Taiwan

[APASUS]

I doubt there will be a conflict. Indicative stupidity, lack of basic knowledge and outright lies have become the norm in world politics. Moreover, the "green octopus" with a cute girlish face has grown shark teeth and is now literally blackmailing transnational corporations, the world crisis is ahead

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: APASUS

Moreover, the "green octopus" with a cute girlish face has grown shark teeth and is now literally blackmailing transnational corporations, the world crisis is ahead

This is a props, not an octopus. A couple of cold winters in a row, and they shove that octopus into the trash can, where it belongs. They will build a nuclear power plant (the most environmentally friendly station, if anyone did not know), and forget the half-crazy Gretta forever.

[APASUS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

This is a props, not an octopus.

The main point was in the last three words.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

A couple of cold winters in a row, and they shove that octopus into the trash can, where it belongs.

they need to change the name of their movement to bees against honey!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: APASUS

I doubt there will be a conflict. Indicative stupidity, lack of basic knowledge and outright lies have become the norm in world politics. Moreover, the "green octopus" with a cute girlish face has grown shark teeth and is now literally blackmailing transnational corporations, the world crisis is ahead

It is in Taiwan or Taiwan that the clash between China and the United States + will not take place. In the region of the South China Sea and Taiwan, China has a clear advantage.

But outside the South China Sea, the United States has a significant military advantage at sea and in the air. This could lead to a blockade of sea routes for China. But this will almost inevitably lead to an escalation.

If you look one step ahead, the turmoil in Taiwan cannot lead to a third world war. Looking two + steps forward:
Occupation of Taiwan -> Blockade of China's sea routes -> clash between the US Navy and China to lift the blockade -> strike on US military bases -> ....

[APASUS]

Quote: Pandiurin

It is in Taiwan or behind Taiwan that the clash between China and the United States + will not take place

That's for sure. Americans need to emerge victorious, not losers.

Quote: Pandiurin

If you look one step ahead, the turmoil in Taiwan cannot lead to a third world war. Looking two + steps forward:
Occupation of Taiwan -> Blockade of China's sea routes -> clash between the US Navy and China to lift the blockade -> strike on US military bases -> ....

This is not a real alignment. The Americans want to get out of debt and they need a war with someone else's hands. I don’t know how they will get involved, but they need to play off Yapinia and Yu Koryu in the war with China (the Americans have not yet forgotten how to do provocations). And the United States will take it upon itself. the role of the weapons supplier.

[rotmistr60]

If Beijing wins the first conflict, it will rally a number of countries in the region around the United States.

Unlikely and highly questionable, "rallying" will remain in the dreams of an optimistic American. As soon as the United States is defeated (hypothetically), all of its "allies" will line up to be "friends" with China. And where is the guarantee that the war will not develop into a nuclear one, which is most likely. Self-complacency.

[Evil troll]

For some reason, the American thinks that after the third world America will generally remain on the planet.

[Basarev]

Beijing must be destroyed, because in the event of a victory, China will begin to impose its cult of personality and the great firewall around the world, it will impose such an order that we will remember Comrade and Sir Major together with gratitude. Therefore, I am for a decisive and final victory for the United States.

[Gunther]

Unlike China, the United States is NATO, the British Commonwealth, Japan and a situational alliance with India, Vietnam, etc.
a naval blockade of the Chinese is possible, ground operations if only they decide to finish it off completely, Japan at one time showed China that quality breaks quantity.
China has no chance, exchange of nuclear weapons is unlikely.
the economic expediency of the conflict with China is another matter, although the war writes off many problems, and the mattresses have them.
and most importantly, Russia needs to stay away from this turmoil, in my opinion.

[isv000]

Quote: Gunter

a naval blockade of the Chinese is possible, land operations if only they decide to finish off completely,

And why do you think logistic routes are being built through the Caspian Sea, BAM and the inland waterways of Russia?

[zwlad]

At the same time, the author hopes that his prediction will not come true.

Of course they will not come true!
Beijing will take back Taiwan bloodlessly.

[Knell wardenheart]

Potentially, there is already a group of countries as a whole interested in what I would call "increasing their regional importance." This desire of theirs comes into conflict with the existing, albeit already significantly shabby and losing efficiency, world order, which is something hybrid between post-WW2 and post-Soviet.
At the moment, not as many states are interested in preserving even the remnants of the current world order as they would like - these are the USA + Australia + Canada, a number of EU states (and a number of others and the UK, which is not currently a member of the EU, are at a crossroads in this matter). some BV monarchies. That Japan, that Germany, that Turkey, China, Russia, Iran, Israel, almost all countries in Africa and Latin America, that South and North Korea, that even India and Pakistan - all are in one way or another dissatisfied with the established world order and their current regional role-capabilities.
The growth of this discontent has different dynamics and different current state, but the point is that problems and local "wishes" have accumulated for a long time, and are just waiting for their "trickster", like tectonic stress before a cascade of earthquakes.
Not so many events can act as "tricksters" now - the US-Iranian conflict unsuccessful for the United States, resulting in a protraction that China will challenge America, and, finally, a hypothetical conflict situation between Japan and Russia, which could potentially escalate into a world war. These three hypothetical events, in my opinion, are capable of "moving the ice" of the relative global world.

[Normann]

But what about the fifth and sixth? If after the third, God forbid, there will be someone left to fight not with stones and sticks (((

[evgen1221]

Oh, another expert behind a puddle looks like a TV and read a newspaper, then he urgently nailed it, something about which in high offices they ordered to write to the media. However, you don't need to warm your head with analytics and other things, it's enough to write and read sometimes)))

[Prisoner]

And the fourth? Yes, they are clinical optimists.

[Roma 1977]

And the fourth world will be, but the world will be smaller by that time.

[isv000]

The US press predicts the third and fourth world wars

The interval between these wars will be very short, since the survivors after the third will have to defend their right to possess the female with digging sticks in their hands ...

[filalex79]

"The US press predicts the third and fourth world wars" - please spend both on your territory.

[Guru]

everything will begin with a clash between Washington and Beijing over Taiwan. And whoever wins the US-China controversy will not be resolved. If successful in the armed conflict of the United States, the Chinese will conclude only a temporary truce and begin preparations for the next war.

And if China wins, will the Americans not consider this option?