Belarusian military received a batch of Russian armored personnel carriers BTR-82A

The Belarusian military received a batch of Russian armored personnel carriers BTR-82A. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic on Twitter.

The equipment arrived by train to the Ozerishche station in Minsk from the Arzamas Machine-Building Plant, where the armored personnel carriers are being assembled. The number of armored personnel carriers received was not reported, but judging by the published photos, more than a dozen armored personnel carriers arrived. It is noted that this is a planned delivery as part of the rearmament of the Belarusian army, the second batch will be delivered in November.

According to the press service of the Belarusian Defense Ministry, the armored personnel carriers are intended for 120 separate mechanized brigades. At the same time, 72 OTC and the Military Academy will receive several units of equipment for training officers and crew members of armored personnel carriers.

In addition to the BTR-82A, the Belarusian military received two BREM-K vehicles - an armored recovery vehicle on the BTR-80 chassis.

It is emphasized that all the armored personnel carriers of this batch are equipped with means of communication and sights of Belarusian production.

As previously reported, all the BTR-82A are armored personnel carriers of a new construction, which have undergone the modernization of the BTR-80 to the level of the BTR-82, and are called BTR-82AM.

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[Jacket in stock]

And what happiness to them?
Moreover, they themselves know how to make armored personnel carriers.

[prior]

How is it ?!
Russian servicemen only need to quickly get to the places where the armored personnel carriers are stored, take places according to the staffing table ... and let's go to Kiev!

[Seryoga64]

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take places according to the staffing table .... and let's go to Kiev!

Yes with a breeze

[Jacket in stock]

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let's go to Kiev!

What about?
Who is waiting for us there, in this cueve?

If we have to take it, then perhaps according to the "Croatian" scenario, so that even the Ukrainian spirit will not remain there.
But this is fantastic, because no one who could do it needs this.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

And nakoy! It is better to transport refugees to Poland with comfort!

[tarakan]

Japan and Germany lost the war and lived richly and happily, I suppose Ukraine is defending it on it.

[Xnumx vis]

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unless according to the "Croatian" scenario, so that even the Ukrainian spirit does not remain there.

The Ukrainian spirit will stay there very much. will not stay svidomozhlbskogo zapadenskobanderovskogo. Bedbugs are always not easy to withdraw. You have to do a complete disinfection of the room ... Tenacious parasites! And all these purebred Ukrainians - Waltzmans, Groismans, Zelenskiy, Capitalman, Kolomoisky, and other "real" purebred patriots. drinking juices from the people of southern Russia.

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The Ukrainian spirit will stay there very much. will not stay Svidomozhlbskogo zapadenskobanderovskogo

So this is Ukrainianity - anti-Russianness.

[Xnumx vis]

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The Ukrainian spirit will stay there very much. will not stay Svidomozhlbskogo zapadenskobanderovskogo

So this is Ukrainianity - anti-Russianness.

What are you talking about ? About Bandera, or Ukrainians?

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What are you talking about ? About Bandera, or Ukrainians?

And the Ukrainians-this is Banderaism. For the Ukrainians were invented for the war against Russia, and anyone who considers himself a Ukrainian, and not a Russian or a Maloros, is essentially a Bandera member.

[Xnumx vis]

What are you wise, Mom, do not worry ... Some kind of nonsense. Bandera is essentially anti-Ukrainian. Enemy of Ukraine and everything Slavic, although they wear embroidered shirts, they are full of their "Ukrainianness, but in their essence they dream of falling under the rule of Hungarians and Poles, Germans, Italians. They are tearing Ukraine apart in different directions. So to speak, a signal has been given for Ukraine's self-destruction. It is necessary to work closely and efficiently with us. ”Most of these guys are intelligent, not stupid, but now they are very poisoned by Galicia and nationalism.

[El Chuvachino]

Obviously, Blazer is trying to convey to you his idea that a "normal Ukrainian" is Russian.

[Xnumx vis]

Westerners have their own life, different from the life of central and southeastern Ukraine .. They can hardly be called Ukraine either. the wreckage of the Austro-Hungarian empire, which became part of the USSR by the will of Stalin. And the lands of Red Russia were under the Poles.

[valentine light]

The Republic of Belarus does have its own Btr "Volat V2", but the Btr 82A was mounted from the Btr 80 (modernization)
Why write off 100 or 200 armored personnel carriers, because it takes time to accumulate new ones, and then there's a universal model that has gone through everything, as they say, "the hardships and deprivations of military service" ...

[Jacket in stock]

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Btr 82A was mounted from Btr 80 (modernization)
Why write off 100 or 200 armored personnel carriers

And read what is written?

As previously reported, all BTR-82A are armored personnel carriers the new the buildings

[valentine light]

BTR 82A is based on the BTR 80 chassis.

For 2021, the Armed Forces of Belarus have updated their equipment, mainly by upgrading the available samples.
As of 2013, there were 153 BTR-80 units in Belarus.
This batch of 82s, the beginning of the modernization of these armored personnel carriers. Perhaps these 15 units are 82, these are newly built ones (although I'm not sure), but the remaining 135 are probably more cost-effective to modernize from the 80s

[Barberry25]

there was information that it is very troublesome and costly to modernize the old ones and that their reliability is much lower ... therefore, the BTR-82A is mainly going to our troops

[valentine light]

The new buildings are called the 82 A model, and the modernized ones from the 80-to-82 AM.
The RF Armed Forces still have 1500 or 1000 armored personnel carriers 80.
Dispose of it still needs to be taken to the enterprise (you can't sell it, even in the Middle East they want a new one)
The body is the same, the engine is replaced, ballistic fabric is laid for bullet protection and dampers from mines are installed, and the sight, etc., is, as it goes without saying ...
I believe that, based on logistics, they make a decision that it is cheaper to cut it, sell it as it is, or take it to the factory.

[Barberry25]

I am aware of the fact that the military had complaints about the BTR-82AM, which is why almost all the news is about "the troops received another batch of the BTR-82A", and not "received the BTR-82AM" ..

[valentine light]

I personally have not heard about the claims to the 82nd, but I heard about the claims to the Ukrainian BTM 84.
But 82A or still AM, that's not clear .... RF, what makes them for Belarus at its own expense, and it is more interesting for Belarusians to invest money in a heavy and new car, saving on the body of the 80s.

[DMi]

A brigade of peacekeepers in Karabakh at 82 AM arrived

[knn54]

Konstantin, saving time and resources.,

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saving time and resources.,

Time?
And what, someone is in a hurry?
Are the Poles / Lithuanians advancing?
Or did the partisans ruzbushlati?

Yes, and against the partisans, they are just not ice.

[valentine light]

What other guerrillas?
BTR 80 has already been tested by battles and all the disadvantages and advantages are known.
That's why 82 appeared.
The BTR 82 A has its own niche - it is a light, transportable, unpretentious armored car.
Of course, there are projects for heavy and much sophisticated machines, but 82 will master antidirectional raids just like reconnaissance.

[Jacket in stock]

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antidirectional raids 82 will master quite

Yes Yes,...
It is just for this that he is not suitable, from the word at all.
Therefore, they are now inventing all sorts of typhoons, typhoons and so on ...

[valentine light]

The Typhoon armored car was not designed for raids or infantry support.
The Typhoon family is intended for the transport of personnel, as well as for the installation of various target equipment or weapons systems. On its basis it is possible to create communication machines.
It is essentially an armored truck.
Don't know it and comment
APCs ... ????

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

There are two vehicles created just as escort vehicles, to replace the armored personnel carrier of little use for this. These are vehicles based on Typhoon-VDV, namely "Partner" with a 30-mm cannon and "Drok" with a machine gun and an 82-mm mortar.

[valentine light]

К4386 "Typhoon-VDV". This machine was developed taking into account the requirements of the Airborne Forces. The armored car in its original configuration is a protected vehicle for soldiers.
A vehicle, but not an infantry or assault support vehicle.

"DROK", Self-propelled MORTAR 2S41.
Made on the basis of the "Typhoon Airborne" armored car, HAS a new combat module equipped with an 82 m mortar.


WELL, "Drok", NOT an APC AT ALL!

[valentine light]

You see Sergei Alexandrovich, the APC has not exhausted its usefulness.
Your words about this - ".. as escort vehicles, to replace an unsuitable, armored personnel carrier ..."

The built-in design resource and new technologies make the armored personnel carrier a universal means - the supply of ammunition and products (inside and on the armor), suppression by a machine gun and a 30 mm automatic cannon of the enemy at a long distance, can effectively ram obstacles and vehicles, including armored vehicles, such as "Hamer" or Georgian "Didgori", etc.
The BTR 82 A CAN COVER AN ASSISTANCE GROUP WITH A HULL (which we constantly observe during the course of the terrorist operations).
BTR 82 can act as a full-fledged heavy equipment tractor.
Smooth running and speed makes it possible to be one of the effective links of the column.
Even damage to two pairs of wheels will not make the armored personnel carrier unequivocally mobile.
New dampers have increased mine protection, and the hull has been seriously strengthened (seriously, this is as much as possible for an armored vehicle, of course)

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The armored personnel carrier has less armor than the Typhoon-VDV, less resistance to explosions and poor visibility to the sides and rear. Poor visibility was compensated for by the armored personnel carrier only in the reconnaissance version. And just in the columns, as escort vehicles, the Typhoon of the Airborne Forces suits much better.

[valentine light]

No, well, you do not read what I indicated in the appointment of the APC.
They have a different PURPOSE.
"TYPHOON" CANNOT PROVIDE FIRE SUPPORT - ONLY TRANSPORT (efficient enough)
And after the upgrade to the BTR 82 A / AM, the anti-mine and bullet protection of the BTR meets the request for military acceptance. (For this they modernized).
For your information, the main US tank "Abrams" M1A2 is pierced by a 30 mm automatic cannon into the rear projection of the turret.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Can you read? A module with a 30-mm 2A42 cannon is installed at the "Partner" car on the basis of "Typhoon-VDV", and the "Drok", in addition to an 82-mm mortar, also has a machine gun.
A good view of such a car.

[valentine light]

You are a gorse car not a transporter.

"Partner" is a more modern and more secure means in terms of escorting columns, but there are some things:
1) production is not able to provide a large income.
2) The adoption of the BTR-82A made it possible not to write off old armored personnel carriers, except for their earlier versions than the 80th version.
It is economically interesting.
3) Making a decision about 82, x became an expectation
Delivery of armored personnel carriers "Boomerang" - it is not profitable to deploy the production of new equipment, if an even more advanced armored personnel carrier is already "on the way"

[valentine light]

So I give you an idea, but we don't find agreement on something .. :)
1) escorting columns, this is not all that an armored personnel carrier can.
2) Fully equipping the Army is neither easy nor cheap.
If deliveries of promising and modern vehicles "Boomerang", "Partner", "Kurganets" are delayed or fail, then the army will be left without modern armored personnel carriers, and this is a threat to combat effectiveness.
While 82 A and AM, they will occupy an intermediate niche.

[Dkuznecov]

Today I read that the Kurganets project has come to an end.
KTZ is bankrupt.
"the investigative department of the FSB of the Russian Federation petitioned for the arrest of three former leaders of KTZ, suspected of" misappropriation or embezzlement on an especially large scale "(part 4 of Art. 160 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). Among them are the founder and CEO of the concern Mikhail Bolotin, his deputy for corporate Finance and Economics Mikhail Shkolnik and Head of the Treasury at KTZ Irina Vostorgin.
“The state contract for the production of light armored vehicles was later actually thwarted. The reason for the failure became clear in the fall of 2017 (at that time the launch of the Kurgansev was planned): KTZ, as it turned out, was mired in debt and in recent years barely kept afloat.
The concern owed about 80 billion rubles to VEB alone, and the total debt of the holding amounted to about 100 billion rubles. "

[valentine light]

Right. That's what I'm talking about - any disruption in delivery (the reason is not important, even if it is objective) does not give the receipt of new and expensive cars.

In this case, the modernized 82 AM is a VERY good way out for recruiting the required number of armored personnel carriers in the troops.

It's good that we have more than one machine on the project, I heard about the expected small deliveries of "Boomerang", but many cars will go to military schools to begin with.

[Barberry25]

what kind of armored personnel carriers they are able to produce? Can you tell me the model?

[tralflot1832]

Beauty, you will be tortured to count. Now Warsaw and Vilnius should howl! And I will be pleased, Tihanovskaya AU?

[Mandalorets]

Here Lithuania is additionally purchased for 19 million euros Heckler & Koch G-36, I wonder if Lukashenka will win or not

[tralflot1832]

And why should he howl if Germany refused this scrap metal.

[tarakan]

They switched to the G-36 for a long time.

[Hermann]

The sights are judging by the absence of infrared projectors with a thermal imaging channel.

[Pavel episkop]

It would be better if the 90 btr was launched into production (they would have taken the towers from bmp 3), since when upgrading bmp 3 with a new 57mm module, the old one would have been added. And 80s is cardboard now for the infantry ...

[DMi]

In Syria, they recently tried to destroy this "cardboard" with such a strong mine. The crew is alive, the car has been restored by local repairmen. Kevlar fabric strongly strengthened this "cardboard"

[sen]

Now, after the imposition of sanctions, daddy is tightly tied to Russia. And he will buy weapons from Russia.

[Slon_on]

Judging by the media reports, the battalion kit + ARVs, etc., arrived immediately.

[sedoj]

Bliiiiin. He served in 75-77, had to accompany BMP 1 to Mongolia. They were fastened with baked 6 mm steel wire and wooden bars. Year 2021. Nothing has changed:

Progress or loyalty to tradition?

[DMi]

Why change something if this system works ??? As fast and cheap as possible.
Maybe the logs that the tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are carrying on themselves, too, can be removed? Well, it seems indecent to use logs in the 21st century of nanotechnology))

[sedoj]

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Well, it seems indecent to use logs in the 21st century of nanotechnology))

Logs are needed for self-extraction from the mud. Although, even if there are logs, they still use ropes. A twisted wire during a long journey along the "piece of iron" tends to stretch and tear. We almost lost one BMP. We noticed it in time. But at the terminal station, on almost every machine, the twists were loosened up. Therefore, instead of wire, there are chains.

[DMi]

Such chains must be stored somewhere and brought to the loading point each time. And the wire and the bar are everywhere at hand.
Just two different logics. To do it right and beautifully, and to do it quickly and autonomously. IMHO, for a real war, the second option is more important.

[sedoj]

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Such chains must be stored somewhere and brought to the loading point each time.

It's just a logistics issue that is completely resolvable. By the way, we have never seen the twists left on the platform stick out in different directions and cling to anything they can reach while driving. And if they are removed, they are lying along the tracks throughout the destination station.

[DMi]

Logistics issues are resolved in peacetime, and that is not always easy and timely. The skill to do without logistics in wartime from scrap materials is important.