Flight design tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile from a surface launch vehicle have been completed

The stage of flight-design tests of the newest Russian hypersonic missile "Zircon" from a surface carrier has been successfully completed. The launches were carried out from the board of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov".

"Zircon" successfully passed the stage of flight design tests from a surface carrier, which was the frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov". As part of the LCI, more than 10 successful launches were made from the ship, as well as from the ground stand. The last time "Admiral Gorshkov" tested a hypersonic missile in July, launching "Zircon" from the waters of the White Sea at a ground target.

LKI "Zirkona" from the coastal stand and the lead frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" have been successfully completed. More than 10 launches were performed, the last of them was in July

- leads TASS military source words

The source did not say anything about further plans to test the Zircon, but it was previously reported that the flight design tests of the rocket from an underwater carrier were supposed to start at the end of August this year and should be completed before freeze-up in the White Sea begins. In total, several launches from the submarine are planned.

There is no official confirmation of this information, the Ministry of Defense traditionally does not publish data on the upcoming tests, reporting them after the test. Also, the developers of Zircon from NPO Mashinostroyenia do not comment on the information.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense confirmed plans to adopt the Zircon hypersonic missile into service at the beginning of 2022.

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[Victor_B]

LKI "Zirkona" from the coastal stand and the lead frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" have been successfully completed.

Hooray!
Well, for your success, the Moremans!
And he drank it immediately! (with)

[Hammer]

Here "Zircon" will be adopted, and then we will rejoice.
Because LCI is not a state yet. But restrained optimism, of course, causes.
But the code with the Tu-22M3M will fly, then exactly from the champagne cork to the ceiling.

[Orange bigg]

... But the code with the Tu-22M3M will fly, then exactly from the champagne cork to the ceiling.

Will a zircon fly with a Tu-22M3M? Zircon is a sea-based hypersonic missile. Only from surface ships and submarines. For the Tu-22M3M, the Kh-50 and the Gremlin hypersonic missile are being created.

Back in the early tenths, it became known that the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV) was working on promising hypersonic missile systems. Some information was known from various sources, but most of the data was not published. Recently, Izvestia revealed detailed information about the new project of KTRV. Thanks to this, the approximate work schedule, part of the technical characteristics and the name of the project became known. Development work carries the code "Gremlin".

R&D "Gremlin" is carried out in accordance with the contract of the Ministry of Defense, issued in November 2018. Several organizations from the KTRV, responsible for the development of certain components, were involved in the work. As follows from the available data, part of the design work has already been completed, and the R&D participants are starting to check and test individual units.

Later, tests began on the mass and size mock-ups of the new rocket on the carrier - the Su-57 fighter. The models were installed on the external and internal suspension. In addition to the weight and dimensions, the on-board electronics of the products have been tested.

In the near future, enterprises from the KTRV structure will have to carry out a lot of different measures to develop and fine-tune individual elements and the structure as a whole. In 2023, the start of state joint tests is scheduled, according to the results of which the further fate of the missile complex will be decided.

Thus, the Gremlin design and development project can be completed by the middle of the decade, after which the finished missile system will receive a recommendation for adoption and launch of the series.

According to the latest publications, the maximum speed of the new hypersonic missile can reach 5-6 M with a range of up to 1500 km. To what extent these estimates correspond to reality is unknown.

The Su-57 fighter is mentioned as the main carrier of the Gremlin. It is quite possible that such a weapon will be included in the ammunition load of other domestic tactical aircraft.

... It is reported that for use on the "Gremlin" the Ural Design Bureau "Detal" provides the seeker "Edge K-02". Products of the Gran-K family are radar seeker with active and passive modes of operation. They have already found application in X-35 anti-ship missiles and have confirmed their ability to detect and track surface targets with subsequent missile guidance.

https://topwar.ru/180286-okr-gremlin-giperzvukovaja-perspektiva-dlja-takticheskoj-aviacii.html

And for strikes against ground targets from a long distance, the Tu-22M3M will soon receive a new Kh-SD cruise missile. SD stands for "medium range". However, according to the information that has surfaced (in particular, patent), it can be assumed that this subsonic missile with a mass of about 1700 kg will have a range of about 3 thousand km. Wow "medium" range!

Recall that the Soviet strategic nuclear KR X-55 had a range of 2500 km, its long-range version X-55MS - 3500 km, the non-nuclear Kh-555 - 2 thousand kilometers. And now everyone knows the sea KR "Caliber" - about 2600-3500 kilometers. That is, the range is not even average at all.

Moreover, the Kh-SD missile can be carried not only by the Tu-22M3M (up to 7 missiles), but also by our other aircraft. For example, the Tu-160 strategic bomber will include up to 12 pieces, the Tu-95MSM - up to 14. Even fighters and front-line bombers: Su-34, Su-30SM or Su-35S will be able to deliver a new missile to the launch point. Moreover, everyone will be able to carry them from 2 to 5 pieces.

The non-nuclear deterrent argument

But doesn't the appearance of such missiles violate the START III treaty? Will the Su-3 Backfires or ducklings be considered strategic bombers for it? No, they will not do. The X-SD, apparently, will be extremely non-nuclear, like the American JASSM-ER missiles (with a range of 34 km) or the Anglo-French Scalp / Storm Shadow, which can also be equipped with fighters.

The X-SD will form one more "pillar" of our non-nuclear strategic deterrent forces along with the same non-nuclear versions of the "Caliber", "Iskander".

https://argumenti.ru/army/2017/12/557581

[Hammer]

You have not grasped the essence of my message. It's not the name that matters - whether it is "Zircon", "Gremlin" or X-SD. We are talking about the introduction of hypersonic anti-ship missiles into service in the MRA (more precisely, in only the DA).
On the other hand, there is no contradiction between what I have written and you. As they say, one does not cancel the other. We will find out over time what will eventually be adopted by the 22 TUShek. Because there is no completely reliable information either because or because of the complexes.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Zircon is a sea-launched hypersonic missile. Only from surface ships and submarines. For the Tu-22M3M, the X-50 and the Gremlin hypersonic missile are being created.

Yes, this is ours.
Why use a ready-made rocket is not so interesting, they won't give a lot of money.
Again, these are different departments, the sailors have their own wallet, the pilots have their own, and everyone should get their share.
And the fact that almost the same money is spent twice, so who pity them.

[Orange bigg]

Why use a ready-made rocket is not so interesting, they won't give a lot of money.

This ready-made Zircon rocket is heavy in weight and for this reason is not suitable for use as a cruise missile from the sides of tactical and strategic aviation. Here's the catch. So Zircon and Gremlin are not the same thing. The same naval anti-ship missile, Onyx, is suitable for the fleet, but not suitable for air-based missiles because of its size and weight. Therefore, we do not have an air-based Onyx. But we do have a sea-based Onyx.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

So Zircon and Gremlin are not the same

This is just understandable. The gremlin is small enough to fit inside the Su57.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: OrangeBigg

the naval anti-ship missile Onyx is suitable for the fleet, but not suitable for an aircraft-based missile because of its size and weight. Therefore, we do not have an aircraft-based Onyx

And the Indians do. And it works quite well for itself, and not even from a huge bomber, but from a more modest fighter.

[bayard]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And the Indians do. And it works quite well for itself, and not even from a huge bomber, but from a more modest fighter.

The Indians did not succeed in adapting the full-size "Brahmos" from the Su-30MKI, so they had to make a special lightweight version, with a smaller diameter and a weight of 2,5 tons (against almost 4 tons for the "Brahmos").

[ZEMCH]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Therefore, we do not have an aircraft-based Onyx, but we do have a sea-based Onyx.

There is an air-based BrahMos A made on the basis of Yakhont (export version of Onyx)
In May 2019, BrahMos-A was tested, using for the first time (from a Su-30MKI fighter) against a ground object

[Dart2027]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Therefore, we do not have an aircraft-based Onyx, but we do have a sea-based Onyx.

In fact, there is an aviation one, but it is shorter by 2 meters than a sea one (6,1 and 8 m, respectively). Zircon will most likely have something similar, so you are right about the weight.

[bk316]

Why use a ready-made rocket is not so interesting, they won't give a lot of money.

Similarly, we will hang Sarmat on that 160. Sarcasm if someone does not understand.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Will the zircon fly with the Tu-22M3M?

Seems to have already flown?

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Complex 3K-22 "Zircon" / "Zircon-S", missile 3M-22 - SS-NX-33

Interspecific hypersonic missile / operational anti-ship missile. According to the available information, the development of the complex is carried out by NPO Mashinostroeniya (source - Annual report, p. 15).

there are practically no obstacles to using sea-based CD for air launch (on the contrary, it is more difficult)

[Orange bigg]

Was it Zircon for sure or the journalists called the tested product presumably Zircon, since the journalistic fraternity does not know other names of hypersonic missiles? Maybe it is the X-90 / X-95, or the GZUR?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And it was definitely Zircon or journalists

there, in time, it seems like other missiles did not test the gpz

Quote: OrangeBigg

Maybe it's the X-90 / X-95, or the GZUR?

90 is too heavy for the Tu-22
a GЗThere is no point in testing the UR from an air platform.
I repeat: a sea-based missile (and even sharpened for the 3C-14 weight and dimensional restrictions) is quite easy and reasonable to adapt for an air launch

[Captain45]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Recall that the Soviet strategic nuclear KR X-55 had a range of 2500 km, its long-range version X-55MS - 3500 km, the non-nuclear Kh-555 - 2 thousand kilometers. And now everyone knows the sea KR "Caliber" - about 2600-3500 kilometers. That is, the range is not even average at all.

I'm not a big specialist, but I remember that the average range of missiles is considered to be from 1000 to 5000 km, inclusively, so the range of the given missiles is just the average.

[Barberry25]

"they'll accept it," and then "they'll put it on," and then "they'll check it out in war," and so on and so forth ..

[venik]

Quote: Hammer

But the code with the Tu-22M3M will fly, then exactly from the champagne cork to the ceiling.

=========
Neighbors (above) sorry, but you can "shoot"!

Second Tu-22M3M during flight tests (May 28, 2020)!

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Victor_B

for your success Moremans!

It kanesh hurray.
But where are the Moremans?

[Thrifty]

And then yesterday some members of the forum cried that Zircon is crap, it does not exist, and in general, they are deceiving us ...

[fa2998]

And the evidence is not enough. When the US intimidated us with the SDI system - some pictures and cartoons. Those frames and filming - WHAT IS DIFFERENT IN THE START OF "ZIRCON" from UVP from the start of "Caliber" or "Tomahawk"?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

And the evidence is not enough

And which ones will convince you unconditionally? Well, so that there are no doubts left.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

And which ones will convince you unconditionally? Well, so that there are no doubts left.

Stand in the center of the target yourself

[Hypertension]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

And the evidence is not enough

And which ones will convince you unconditionally? Well, so that there are no doubts left.

Only such:

[Seryoga64]

Quote: fa2998

And the evidence is scarce.

And who and why should you prove something?

[1976AG]

Quote: Thrifty

And then yesterday some members of the forum cried that Zircon is crap, it does not exist, and in general, they are deceiving us ...

So that x about xl probably. They did not believe in the Crimean bridge either.

[Nexcom]

some of them still deny the existence of the Crimean bridge ...

[bk316]

They did not believe in the Crimean bridge either.

Let's ask fa2998.
Does he believe in the Crimean bridge now? And most importantly, if he believes, then why?
Well, they showed a picture, and they showed it with zircon, well, unknown people wrote that they had passed the bridge, and they wrote about zircon, and so on ...
But everyone knows that it is absolutely impossible to build a Bridge there, you understand geology, but if you build it, an earthquake will immediately destroy it, you understand seismology, and if not immediately, it will be blown away by ice in the spring, you understand hydrology or glaciology there.

[greenx]

Well, we have arrived, as it is possible.

[Seryoga64]

More than 10 successful launches were made within the LCI

Again this is "more". Why not "about"?
Is it really difficult to give a specific figure? If you don't know, say so

[mark1]

Quote: Seryoga64

Again this is "more". Why not "about"?

But because "more", if there were "less", then they would have said the exact number, but for "more" there are not enough fingers on the hands (you don't want to take off your shoes, socks stink)

[Seryoga64]

Quote: mark1

but for "more" fingers are not enough on the hands (shoes do not want to take off, socks stink)

Forbid them this "about", "more", "about" and they will stop writing

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
You see, a rocket flies by as an asterisk,
This is a good omen! ...
***

[fa2998]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

And the evidence is not enough

And which ones will convince you unconditionally? Well, so that there are no doubts left.

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: fa2998

And the evidence is scarce.

And who and why should you prove something?

Don't you need to prove to me? Previously, the enemy was intimidated with new weapons so that he would sit quietly. At parades, during exercises, etc. And such news just reminds of the "SDI system"

[Seryoga64]

Quote: fa2998

Don't you need to prove it to me?

Then how are these words to be understood?

And the evidence is scarce.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Seryoga64

Then how are these words to be understood?

You see, Sergei, in this case - nothing at all, because it makes no sense to comprehend the meaning of unreasonable thoughts.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Paranoid50

in any way, because it makes no sense to comprehend the meaning of meaningless thoughts.

Yes, I still have such a bad habit, people believe

[engineer74]

Quote: fa2998

Don't you need to prove to me? Previously, the enemy was intimidated with new weapons so that he would sit quietly. At parades, during exercises, etc. And such news just reminds of the "SDI system"

And what's wrong with intimidating the enemy with cartoons? Much cheaper than iron!
Are you introducing double standards?
And "Zircon", etc. while he loves silence, it is not yet time.
"It's not like that guys,
Give only the term
There will be a squirrel for you,
There will be a whistle! "© Narodnoe.

[Dikson]

That's fine. Will there be something to arm the Navy in the light of the latest news .. And then, after the Americans and Koreans announced unprecedented successes in the development of hypersonic weapons .. But without this moronic word "extreme" was impossible to do? They sculpt it where it is necessary and not necessary .. It is not kosher to speak or write in any other way nowadays, right?

[Prisoner]

Well, good hour. "Partners" of "sweet" dreams.

[Bez 310]

Oh well...
Wait and see.

[geologist]

Hooray! I'm going to the city for cognac. Need to mark!

[fa2998]

Quote: engineer74

And what's wrong with intimidating the enemy with cartoons? Much cheaper than iron
Are you introducing double standards?

Why me? This is ours learned from the Americans (SDI). They convince, intimidate, warn the enemy. And before, hundreds of bombers flew over Moscow, and ICBMs were barely deployed at the Museum of the Revolution. Now cartoons.

[Captain45]

As part of the LCI, more than 10 successful launches were made from the ship, as well as from the ground stand.(with),
I’m not at all sneering, on the contrary, I am glad of the successes, but still, if this is news, then I want specifics. More than 10 is 11 or 21 or 23? And if the newsman does not know, then there is nothing to refer to incomprehensible sources in the departments, especially TASS is a serious news agency with experience and history. One phrase - "TASS is authorized to declare", which was preceded by serious foreign policy statements at the state level, which is worth it.

[Stepan S]

but still, if this is news, then you want specifics. More than 10 is 11 or 21 or 23?

What are your suspicious desires, for what purpose are you interested? On the subject of squandering "socialist property"?

[Captain45]

Quote: Stepan S

On the subject of squandering "socialist property"?

On the topic of "socialist property": once upon a time in the oath that I took were such words - not to spare my strength, and if necessary, life itself, while protecting the Soviet social and state system, socialist property, personality and rights of citizens and socialist law and order. (c)
This is the topic of squandering. And although the property is no longer socialist, my attitude towards it remained in accordance with the given oath. And accuracy in the news is highly desirable, so that unnecessary rumors do not proliferate.

[Stepan S]

And accuracy in the news is highly desirable, so as not to generate unnecessary rumors.

You understand that this news is specific and it is not always possible to cover it in full.

[Stepan S]

Only yesterday on the resource someone was very worried that there was no news on Zircon every day. An unnamed source heard this (possibly through an outlet) and gave me scant information. And how much do we need, just to fly the rocket.

[Jonny_Su]

It is strange that they do not write about the successful defeat of the ship's target. This is an anti-ship missile, after all.
In general, it's great, of course, success.

[Zaurbek]

Why are they not integrating Onyx-type anti-ship missiles on Tu22 aircrafts?

[Codett]

Good news, but the problem is that there are not enough zircon carriers yet, you need to build new ones, especially of the 1st rank