The Pentagon began developing mobile nuclear reactors for the military

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The Pentagon began developing mobile nuclear reactors for the military

Launched in the United States, a program to create mobile nuclear reactors for the military is gaining momentum. According to Miltary.com, most of the work will be carried out at the Idaho nuclear laboratory.

The work began with the preparation of a theoretical justification for the program of mobile nuclear reactors, the next stage was the study of the impact of various energy supply systems on the environment, without which no funds are currently allocated to any project. At present, the Pentagon's nuclear specialists went to the laboratory, where they will observe the prototype of the reactor.



As previously stated in the Pentagon, the military needs a mobile microreactor capable of generating from 1 to 10 megawatts. In 2019, the requirements were: "a mobile reactor for the army should weigh no more than 40 tons, be transported by truck, plane or ship, work up to 3 years without recharging in a semi-automatic mode, while generating from 1 to 10 megawatts." It is possible that some of these requirements have been removed or replaced by adding others.

A safe, small, mobile nuclear reactor will meet the growing needs of the American military by becoming a reliable source of energy (...) supporting critical operations in remote and harsh environments

- stated in the Pentagon.

Meanwhile, American nuclear scientists have called on the US Army to abandon the use of mobile nuclear reactors due to significant security concerns. In their opinion, even minor damage to the shell of a mobile reactor can lead to tragic consequences.
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  1. -1
    26 September 2021 11: 41
    They will spend a couple of Caterpillar money and successfully close the project. Or is "Peresvet" haunted?
    1. +8
      26 September 2021 11: 55
      They may be closed, but most likely they will get some useful developments that will be used in another topic, for example, in marine or microelectric power plants for remote settlements .., but you never know, while they were inventing a rocket, they came up with a new frying pan.
      1. +5
        26 September 2021 12: 40
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        We can and will be closed, but most likely they will receive some useful developments

        10 MW is exactly for a "Lada" type submarine ... A hybrid propulsion unit for her, and the speed at the reactor plus batteries is 30+ knots ... although ... it has a propulsion electric motor of only 5 MW, it seems.
        And in ground bases in a threatened area, have a nuclear reactor? What a gorgeous priority target. Hit - and the base will die out by itself ... The staff and the soldiers will scatter around the neighborhood, in what they were. Collect them in bundles laughing so to put atomic batteries in cars ... and after each accident close several quarters ... for 30 years ...
        1. +1
          26 September 2021 12: 47
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          in ground bases in a threatened area, have a nuclear reactor? What a gorgeous priority goal

          That is why
          American nuclear scientists urged the US Army to abandon the use of mobile nuclear reactors due to significant security concerns
          1. +2
            26 September 2021 13: 54
            And why are you so strongly pounced on the idea of ​​a "mobile nuclear reactor"? The idea itself is good, but, at the moment, it is difficult to implement in the technical aspect. And after a while, all the critics will shout: "it's that simple"!
        2. +6
          26 September 2021 13: 25
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Hybrid propulsion to her,

          belay
          enlighten the dark man.
          A mover is something that converts the work of the engine (to which there is an energy supply) into the work of moving the transport vehicle.
          Did the submarine have anything other than the propeller with a decent efficiency?
          Flippers? Oars?
          sad
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And in ground bases in a threatened area, have a nuclear reactor? What a gorgeous priority target. Hit - and the base will die out by itself ...

          in war, it does not matter.
          Submarine sunk: goodbye to California beaches?
          The devil is not so terrible as he is painted. You have that mistake, for example, Chernobyl. But this is a completely different object.
          In 2016, a Defense Science Council task force recognized the country as having critically growing energy challenges facing the Department of Defense, as well as significant technological advances in nuclear power since the 1960s. Generation III reactors are now in operation all over the world, he said. and "new, completely safe in nature" designs allow autonomous operation and eliminate the risks of fuel melts. The Task Force concluded that the US Armed Forces should continue to explore the deployment of nuclear power systems to meet their needs for reliable, abundant and continuous energy. To this end, in March 2020, the US Department of Defense announced a two-year competition for the design of such a mobile microreactor.


          Fuel TRISO-The design of this fuel (fuel assembly) has outer layers of silicon carbide surrounding an enriched uranium oxycarbide fuel core, which traps the fission products inside the TRISO particle and makes it resistant to growth, in while the granular nature of the fuel minimizes the impact on the environment and society from “kinetic” impacts that can affect the structural integrity of the reactor

          And the warriors do not have enough energy. And there was always not enough
          1. 0
            26 September 2021 13: 42
            Quote: ja-ja-vw
            A mover is something that converts the work of the engine (to which there is an energy supply) into the work of moving the transport vehicle

            It was expressed not precisely, but intuitively. Do not find fault with words. Hybrid energy source (reactor, generator, battery) powered by a propeller driven electric motor.
            And about safe reactors and safe fuel - this is not the case in mass production ... And it will not be soon, if any.
            1. +2
              26 September 2021 16: 39
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Do not find fault with words.

              let the old man grumble
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              And about safe reactors and safe fuel - this is not the case in mass production.

              1.already have (both they have and we)
              The Engineering Company of Innovative Projects will by 2023 develop small-sized nuclear power plants for use in the Arctic regions in the interests of the Russian army. Two types of units will be created, designed to generate 1 MW and 100 kW of energy. The source of the first type can be transported using a tractor. Thus, he will be able to provide electricity to mobile objects.

              2. Do you consider the supply of several thousand mobile diesel power plants (from 30 kW capacity) with solar oil less safe?
              Oh well
              1. -1
                26 September 2021 17: 51
                Quote: ja-ja-vw
                1.already have (both they have and we)
                The Engineering Company of Innovative Projects will by 2023 develop small-sized nuclear power plants for use in the Arctic regions in the interests of the Russian army. Two types of units will be created, designed to generate 1 MW and 100 kW of energy. The source of the first type can be transported using a tractor. Thus, he will be able to provide electricity to mobile objects.

                Well, I am in close contact with Rosatom. Small reactors for space flights - yes, work is underway ... And what is mentioned in the article does not shine anywhere. Although the degree of secrecy in the space program must be higher!
                1. -1
                  26 September 2021 22: 01
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Well, I have a pretty close relationship with Rosatom.

                  I play chess.
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Small reactors for space flights - yes, work is underway ...

                  This is bullshit, like the Poseidon, they cured the supreme, got rid of it in full with drop cooling.
                  Everything will be trite, as in the USSR, and this is ALL OTHER POWER AND EFFICIENCY No.
                  These "effective" defective managers, noodle hangers, have been annoying me for 20 years ...
                  Kovalchuk Mikhail Valentinovich Kovalchuk's brother Yuri Valentinovich ....
                  I don't need anything else. This one will rub into the ears of a narrow-minded person: everything that he wants. And about the braces and about the Pechenegs and about antimatter.
                  Knock and it will be revealed to you, seek and find, ask and it will be given.
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  And what is mentioned in the article does not shine anywhere


                  1. 0
                    26 September 2021 23: 39
                    Quote: ja-ja-vw
                    I play chess

                    And I play. And besides chess, what sources of information do you have?
                    1. -1
                      27 September 2021 00: 10
                      Quote: Mountain Shooter
                      And besides chess, what sources of information do you have?

                      1. the brain (if any) is the most important source of information ... oh yes, the eyes still, although partially it is possible with the ears ...
                      2. Have you ever officially communicated with the structures of Rosatom?
                      hi
                      if so, why are you asking this question?
                      1. +1
                        27 September 2021 00: 14
                        Quote: ja-ja-vw
                        . have you ever officially communicated with the structures of Rosatom?

                        And I even conduct several contracts with them ... VEI, Bochvara, ChMZ. Familiar names?
                        What tells you what's between the ears?
                      2. -4
                        27 September 2021 01: 51
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        Familiar names?

                        no.
                        there are many topics.
                        Many knowledge - many sorrows

                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        What tells you what's between the ears?

                        autumn has come and winter will come soon.
                        crooked and obliquely, but they will replace the automated process control system from Framatome SAS - Siemens AG on which thread is the slag from RASU, then there will be spring, and .... if we live, then it will be summer.
                        my ears perfectly hold the insulated cap.
                      3. 0
                        27 September 2021 06: 42
                        Quote: ja-ja-vw
                        autumn has come and winter will come soon.
                        crooked and obliquely, but they will replace the automated process control system from Framatome SAS - Siemens AG on which thread is the slag from RASU, then there will be spring, and .... if we live, then it will be summer.
                        my ears perfectly hold the insulated cap

                        Well, kind of loose?
                        And I realized that you are deeply "not in the know," and the source of information for you, other than the Internet, is not available. Gray matter is not a sufficient source ...
                      4. 0
                        27 September 2021 11: 49
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        Well, kind of loose?

                        why type?
                        just a question
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        What tells you what's between the ears?

                        I gave the answer, what he (it) tells me
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        And I realized that you are deeply "not in the know", and the source of information for you, other than the Internet, is not available

                        your thought is so deep that it is incomprehensible to me.
                        I understand correctly:
                        -If the source of information is "the Internet", and not a smoking room, or if I am not a contractor of TsGOMS, then sit and be silent in a rag and do not dare express your opinion?
                        shl. thanks for "-"
                        the discussion was interesting.
                        It's like with Elon Musk
                        "now, when it flies, then .."
                        Konanykhin is such a chuchundrik, now he is modestly silent.
                        I assume that here too
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        ... And it will not be soon, if any.

                        will be exactly the same.
                        There is no need to eat the hat, I do not insist.
                      5. +2
                        27 September 2021 07: 22
                        Quote: ja-ja-vw

                        1. the brain (if any) is the most important source of information ... oh yes, the eyes still, although partially it is possible with the ears ...

                        Sorry, dear, but if the brain is a source of information for you, then you urgently need to see a doctor. This is called schizophrenia.
                        For healthy people, the brain serves to process the information received, make decisions based on this information and control the rest of the human organs.
                        Even the works of writers are not information, but entertainment for the brain of the reader and the production of a product for the brain of the writer.
                      6. +1
                        27 September 2021 11: 56
                        Quote: Eragon
                        Sorry, dear, but if the brain is a source of information for you, then you urgently need to see a doctor. This is called schizophrenia.

                        1.No big deal - I'm used to it
                        2. I will go to a doctor, I am not a doctor, it is difficult for me to judge.
                        3 i'm not alone it seems
                        The greatest events in the world are those that take place in the human brain.

                        / Oscar Wilde
                        Each person has his own theater under his hat, where dramas unfold, often more complex than those given in theaters.

                        / Thomas Carlyle
                        Quote: Eragon
                        For healthy people, the brain serves to process the information received,

                        Aristotle believed that the brain exists only to cool the blood and does not participate in the process of thinking.
                        This, however, is only true for some people.
        3. bar
          +1
          26 September 2021 13: 35
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          10 MW is exactly on a Lada-type submarine ... A hybrid propulsion device, and the speed on the reactor plus batteries is 30+ knots ...

          Reactor as a hybrid engine is not an idea. With it, the boat immediately loses its main property - stealth. Unlike the same stirling, the reactor cannot be stopped, its pumps must constantly run, which means they must be noisy.
          1. +1
            26 September 2021 13: 44
            Quote: bar
            Unlike the same stirling, the reactor cannot be stopped, its pumps must constantly run, which means they must be noisy.

            Not necessary. There are developments of reactors that are cooled at low power by convection of the coolant, without turning on the circulation pumps.
        4. 0
          26 September 2021 14: 10
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And after each accident, close several quarters ... for 30 years ...

          And they don't think they will use these reactors at home, in their states.
          Request made for further use on foreign military bases, - in Europe, Asia, the Middle East, but not at home !
        5. 0
          26 September 2021 23: 25
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          10 MW is exactly the size of a "Lada" type square ..

          At the end of the USSR, such work was carried out in Minsk - mobile nuclear power plants. For powering the command post during the war, when the main sources are knocked out. And also in the Arctic, on the islands, where the supply is difficult.
          One of my comrades went to choose one of these at a command post ... a big command post.
      2. 0
        26 September 2021 15: 12
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        for example, in marine or microelectric power plants for remote settlements

        There is definitely no point in this: if the gas engine runs on fuel oil, why install such a complex power plant and transport relevant specialists?
    2. -3
      26 September 2021 12: 23
      Quote: tralflot1832
      They will spend a couple of Caterpillar money and successfully close the project.

      yeah, as with an atomic tank) We wanted to plug a reactor into the M103 and see what happens, but funding was cut - that's all.
  2. 0
    26 September 2021 11: 42
    It is better, of course, not to make such toys for mattresses, otherwise they will not take out or throw such a thing as in Afghanistan .......
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 12: 11
      Or ebony will make kissing shoes and take off.
  3. 0
    26 September 2021 11: 43
    you need to develop a lead coating for i ... c in the kit)))
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 12: 07
      It's easier to change the floor. laughing
    2. +1
      26 September 2021 12: 21
      Comrade submariner, why are your toenails blue? Have you been tortured? No, heavy lead panties, fall off often!
  4. +8
    26 September 2021 11: 45
    Reactor plant characteristics
    Characteristic Pamir-630D
    Electric power, kW 630
    Thermal power, kW 4950
    Moderator and reflector material Zirconium hydride (ZrH1.9)
    UO2 fuel enriched in U235 isotope up to 45%
    Absorbent rod material Europium(III) oxide (Eu2O3)
    Number of fuel assemblies, pcs:
    type 1 84
    type 2 3
    type 3 19
    Core loading according to U235, kg 18,7
    Number of CPS rods, pcs 12
    Core height, mm 500
    Core diameter, mm 505,7
    Coolant "Nitrin" (based on N2O4)
    Coolant consumption, kg/s 5,68
    Heat carrier temperature, ° C:
    at the reactor inlet 189,5
    at the outlet of the reactor 503
    Maximum temperature, ° C:
    shells TVEL 700
    moderator 570
    fuel 1150
    Core mass, kg 5700
    Project closure
    In 1986, after the Chernobyl accident, the safety of using these complexes was criticized. In February 1988, by the decision of the USSR Council of Ministers and the Presidium of the BSSR Academy of Sciences, work on the Pamir-630D project was stopped. One of the main reasons for stopping work on the project was named “insufficient scientific substantiation of the choice of the coolant”. The research reactor was dismantled: both facilities were decommissioned and disposed of at the end of 1986; all tractors with equipment were dismantled.

    One of the surviving details - the metal structure of the reactor core - was installed on the territory of the institute as part of a decorative fountain. The second, a part of the stainless steel pipes of the steam generator, was installed as a decoration in the Reactor nightclub in Minsk; as of September 2013 this club is closed.
    1. +3
      26 September 2021 11: 59
      Mobile reactors are a long-standing topic. The Pamirs were slapped because of the Chernobyl disaster, and in general, a mobile reactor was completely blinded before it - back in the 60th year in the USSR. In the series did not go because it was all unprofitable.

      But with mattresses, there are more questions than answers. They have nuclear power in ... Space. Where there is a black hole, yes. They seem to make reactors for submarines or aircraft carriers ... But they cannot be called particularly compact. And with a peaceful atom - you can't say without a mat at all - count it in the United States - they eat up the leftovers from 40 years ago. What will come out is unknown. Soon all - nifiga and a bow bag
      1. -2
        26 September 2021 12: 29
        Quote: Cowbra
        They have nuclear power in ... Space. Where there is a black hole, yes.

        NASA by 2027 was going, like, to mount a reactor on the Moon.
        1. +1
          26 September 2021 12: 33
          Let them mount Vogtle in Georgia first. They have been building everything for 10 years, they have been building ... It seems that they have already promised to build it for 5 years
      2. 0
        26 September 2021 14: 03
        Quote: Cowbra
        The Pamirs were spanked because of the Chernobyl disaster

        Well, now the Americans got the project out of the heap they bought in the 90s for a couple of cookies. They will also call him what nito Elbrus, they will make fun of him.
    2. 0
      26 September 2021 13: 17
      Quote: Strannik_GO
      Reactor plant characteristics
      Characteristic Pamir-630D
      Electric power, kW 630
      Thermal power, kW 4950
      Moderator and reflector material Zirconium hydride (ZrH1.9)
      UO2 fuel enriched in U235 isotope up to 45%
      Absorbent rod material Europium(III) oxide (Eu2O3)
      Number of fuel assemblies, pcs:
      type 1 84
      type 2 3
      type 3 19
      Core loading according to U235, kg 18,7
      Number of CPS rods, pcs 12
      Core height, mm 500
      Core diameter, mm 505,7
      Coolant "Nitrin" (based on N2O4)
      Coolant consumption, kg/s 5,68
      Heat carrier temperature, ° C:
      at the reactor inlet 189,5
      at the outlet of the reactor 503
      Maximum temperature, ° C:
      shells TVEL 700
      moderator 570
      fuel 1150
      Core mass, kg 5700
      Project closure
      In 1986, after the Chernobyl accident, the safety of using these complexes was criticized. In February 1988, by the decision of the USSR Council of Ministers and the Presidium of the BSSR Academy of Sciences, work on the Pamir-630D project was stopped. One of the main reasons for stopping work on the project was named “insufficient scientific substantiation of the choice of the coolant”. The research reactor was dismantled: both facilities were decommissioned and disposed of at the end of 1986; all tractors with equipment were dismantled.

      One of the surviving details - the metal structure of the reactor core - was installed on the territory of the institute as part of a decorative fountain. The second, a part of the stainless steel pipes of the steam generator, was installed as a decoration in the Reactor nightclub in Minsk; as of September 2013 this club is closed.

      Good charger for aerial and ground drones, charging lithium-ion batteries.
  5. +2
    26 September 2021 11: 50
    American nuclear scientists urged the US Army to abandon the use of mobile nuclear reactors

    Why only from reactors? And the damage to a nuclear bomb or missile with special ammunition will not lead to tragic consequences? And how many victims and destruction were there in the explosion of conventional explosives concentrated in one place?
    Then call for disarming altogether.
    1. +1
      26 September 2021 12: 49
      Quote: Popandos
      American nuclear scientists urged the US Army to abandon the use of mobile nuclear reactors

      Why only from reactors? And the damage to a nuclear bomb or missile with special ammunition will not lead to tragic consequences? And how many victims and destruction were there in the explosion of conventional explosives concentrated in one place?
      Then call for disarming altogether.


      There is a difference, the components of nuclear warheads are in a "cold" state. To initiate a nuclear reaction, you must try.

      A nuclear reaction has already been launched in the reactor, so that the reaction does not go on increasing or destruction does not occur, constant very intensive cooling is required. If, like the Americans, they write a small reactor with a capacity of 10 MW ...
      Imagine removing this power from it for use. And then abruptly the need disappeared, this happens. The machine was knocked out, the wire burned out, the load was simply turned off.
      These 10 MW will still have to be taken away somehow and disposed of somewhere.

      At the nuclear power plant, this was solved by the construction of huge cooling pools.
      If there is a sharp decrease in power, then water is pumped from these pools through the external circuit.

      What is placed on nuclear submarines, icebreakers, aircraft carriers, the role of a pool with water for cooling is performed by sea water.

      For such a land-based mobile reactor with a very high power, the probability of core overheating is seen as a very likely accident. The logic of the Americans as they are going to neutralize the danger of such an accident is also clear. A similar reactor will be used for expeditionary purposes. Reactors will be buried on the territory of the temporary base. If an explosion occurs and the reactor melts, then the main thing is to quickly evacuate the base. There will be severe pollution of the territory, pollution of groundwater, etc. such contamination will be extremely difficult to eliminate. But the American servicemen, in principle, are not particularly threatened by anything. Aboriginal accident elimination problem.
      1. 0
        26 September 2021 13: 23
        Quote: Pandiurin
        The reactor will be buried on the territory of the temporary base

        In the USSR, there was a project for power supply of remote, sparsely populated (for now!) Regions ... It was proposed to use nuclear reactors of submarines (those that are smaller!) Or "something like that"! The most important point of the project was the placement of reactors in mines deep underground ... existing (missile silos, mines of abandoned mines ...) or "newly excavated"!
        1. 0
          26 September 2021 13: 47
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Quote: Pandiurin
          The reactor will be buried on the territory of the temporary base

          In the USSR, there was a project for power supply of remote, sparsely populated (for now!) Regions ... It was proposed to use nuclear reactors of submarines (those that are smaller!) Or "something like that"! The most important point of the project was the placement of reactors in mines deep underground ... existing (missile silos, mines of abandoned mines ...) or "newly excavated"!


          Well, they didn't implement it.

          In a nuclear submarine reactor, its inseparable and critical functional part is available water overboard for cooling.

          There is no water deep underground in the mine.
          I would have to make some kind of crutch that would complicate the entire system and hardly add reliability.
      2. +1
        26 September 2021 19: 49
        Nuclear bullets are in a "cold" state.

        Radiation contamination in case of destruction of ammunition is not dangerous? Palomares and the B-52 google if you haven't heard this story.
        a nuclear reaction has already been launched in the reactor, so that the reaction does not go on increasing or destruction does not occur, constant very intensive cooling is required

        In order not to go on increasing there is a system for regulating a chain reaction, it has nothing to do with the heat removal system in most reactors.
        This installation is designed to be mobile, and therefore the reactor device must contemplate the absence of heat generation during transportation, I think this system can be used to regulate load surges.
        1. -1
          26 September 2021 20: 25
          [quote = Popandos] [quote] YABC are in a "cold" state. [/ quote]
          Radiation contamination in case of destruction of ammunition is not dangerous? Palomares and B-52 google if you haven't heard this story. [/ Quote]

          No, it is radiation contamination that is not dangerous. If the initiation of a nuclear charge does not occur. Enriched uranium is not radioactive. They work with him in a respirator and thin medical gloves. Precautions Since uranium, like lead, belongs to heavy metals, it is poorly excreted from the body. In addition, uranium is a strong carcinogen, not because of radioactivity, but as a chemical element.

          [quote] the reactor has already started a nuclear reaction there, from the fact that the reaction does not go on increasing or destruction does not occur, constant very intensive cooling is required [/ quote]
          In order not to go on increasing there is a system for regulating a chain reaction, it has nothing to do with the heat removal system in most reactors.
          This installation is designed to be mobile, and therefore the reactor device must contemplate the absence of heat generation during transportation, I think this system can be used to regulate load surges. [/ Quote]

          The reactor cannot be controlled in such a way as to bring it to high power - to accelerate, then, at the click of your fingers, to reduce the power (the intensity of nuclear reactions), then to accelerate again.
          It doesn't work that way. If you stop removing heat from the overclocked reactor, then the core heats up and meltdown, its melting, a thermal explosion with a scatter of radioactive materials.

          This happened with the Fukushima nuclear power plant.
          The load was disconnected, the batteries flooded, the cooling pumps stopped working, the emergency deceleration rods, of course, could not shut down the reactor, which was put into the operating overclocked mode (Without cooling). Overheating, melting of thermal assemblies, and destruction of the reactor occurred.
  6. +3
    26 September 2021 11: 52
    The Pentagon began developing mobile nuclear reactors for the military
    Now ours will begin to "blow off the dust" from similar old Soviet projects


    1. 0
      26 September 2021 11: 58
      Quote: svp67
      The Pentagon began developing mobile nuclear reactors for the military
      Now ours will begin to "blow off the dust" from similar old Soviet projects

      Pumping energy for lasers?
      1. +3
        26 September 2021 12: 02
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Pumping energy for lasers?

        It seems that we use "explosive batteries" for this ... But anything is possible. And on the other hand, the world, including the military, is switching to "green technologies", from some kind of source, electric cars need to be charged, like numerous other consumers of electricity, the same night vision devices, computers, tablets, cameras ...
      2. +1
        26 September 2021 12: 57
        Pumping energy for lasers?


        Rather, where, in addition to electricity and heat is needed. The Arctic Circle will do. An unprofitable contraption, but there are places where there is neither fuel oil, nor diesel fuel, nor even firewood. And you will be tortured to lead them there. So the Americans seem to be going to settle down in Alaska. Chinese gifts "Beijing-New York" will fly through those places. wink
      3. 0
        26 September 2021 14: 20
        Quote: Aaron Zawi

        Pumping energy for lasers?

        A powerful radar can be quickly installed anywhere.
        On the islands, off the coast of the enemy, deploy the base. hi
  7. 0
    26 September 2021 11: 53
    This is the future ...
    1. -2
      26 September 2021 12: 25
      Quote: Al_lexx
      This is the future ...

      eh .... a Cadillac with a thorium reactor? ))
      1. 0
        26 September 2021 23: 27
        Electric scooter ..))
  8. 0
    26 September 2021 11: 53
    For such mini-nuclear power plants, the future is for civilian needs and for the military.

    And safety must be strengthened, in addition to the reactor, it is possible to manufacture and transport separately additional protection for it, to bury it in the ground after having built a protective case, etc.

    Oil and gas will soon run out, and the garrisons will need to be lit and heated. This is very important for Russia.
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 12: 16
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      bury in the ground after having built a protective case

      actually, the key word here is "mobile".
    2. +3
      26 September 2021 12: 17
      Microreactors are, of course, a very promising topic, but about the imminent end of oil and gas, you got very excited :)
    3. 0
      26 September 2021 12: 42
      First, it won't end soon. Secondly, in connection with the decarbonization program. The export of oil and gas to the European Union will decline sharply over time. In general, the cries of "selling natural resources, leaving the descendants with nothing" will be replaced by cries of "why did not they sell more, while there was demand." I, of course, exaggerate, oil and gas will in any case be used in the chemical industry in the production of various materials. But their role as a source of energy and as a fuel will sharply decline in the coming decades.
    4. 0
      26 September 2021 13: 10
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      For such mini-nuclear power plants, the future is for civilian needs and for the military.

      And safety must be strengthened, in addition to the reactor, it is possible to manufacture and transport separately additional protection for it, to bury it in the ground after having built a protective case, etc.

      Oil and gas will soon run out, and the garrisons will need to be lit and heated. This is very important for Russia.


      There is no future for them, especially in the civil sector. You at least estimate the service life of THREE years planned by the Americans. And estimate the cost of electricity, taking into account the manufacture, delivery, deployment, conservation, delivery to the disposal site and the disposal itself.

      What is used now is with low power, for powering some kind of autonomous equipment somewhere in hard-to-reach places. The main thing is passive cooling and relatively low power. Usually, such mini-nuclear sources have a long service life, with a gradual gradual decrease in the generated power.

      The floating nuclear power plants that Russia is building are a full-fledged nuclear power plant and not a mini-reactor.

      The fact that they put on nuclear submarines and ships also has their own characteristics, a prerequisite for the presence of outboard water.
  9. +2
    26 September 2021 12: 03
    As Russia is building a floating reactor, so FUU, cut the dough, but the amers FUTURE IS HERE.
    PS sarcasm
  10. +2
    26 September 2021 12: 06
    They lagged behind Russia for 50 years in the creation of small nuclear reactors.
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 11: 10
      For nuclear submarines, they do the same ... ... here the question is that reactors will have to be massively made and fuel for neither ... transportation, maintenance, security ... etc. many questions. To do - 59% of problems
  11. +2
    26 September 2021 12: 12
    Meanwhile, American nuclear scientists have called on the US Army to abandon the use of mobile nuclear reactors due to significant security concerns. In their opinion, even minor damage to the shell of a mobile reactor can lead to tragic consequences.
    Nobody will hear them. Temptations ... request Super laser. super weapon ....
  12. sen
    +3
    26 September 2021 12: 27
    They are catching up, ours have done for Poseidon long ago.
  13. sen
    +1
    26 September 2021 12: 40
    Canadians did something similar:
    https://bukren.my1.ru/publ/ware/aviano_1/2-1-0-78
    "- a small-sized nuclear reactor of the" Sloupok "type, developed by the Canadian company" Energy Conversion Systems ", with a capacity of 100-400 kW, operating time without recharging 1000 days. The reactor is designed as a module specially for ultra-small and small submarines."
    https://dereksiz.org/9-ispolezovanie-yaeu-maloj-moshnosti-na-depl.html
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 14: 43
      Quote: sen
      with a capacity of 100-400 kW,

      It will not be enough. 1-10 MW is just that.
  14. 0
    26 September 2021 12: 40
    Do not really understand. If the military, then the idea of ​​using outside their territory, at the front, is obvious.
    For example, they wanted to bring this reactor to Syria or Iraq. And tomorrow a drone bomb accidentally fell on the reactor. Why would the amerikosov?

    And in all sorts of Germany or Italy or Korea, these reactors are very unlikely to start up.

    And it's easier to install a nuclear power plant on your own territory. Why would there be temporary reactors on a car somewhere to carry?

    In general, for me it is so easy to cut the dough.
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 14: 09
      Quote: Denis812
      Why would there be temporary reactors on a car somewhere to carry?

      For colonization of Mars and other terraforming) Long-range sight. winked
      1. 0
        26 September 2021 14: 09
        aahhh.
        Well, I see, then of course.
    2. 0
      26 September 2021 14: 46
      Quote: Denis812
      And tomorrow a drone bomb accidentally fell on the reactor.

      From a "drone bomb" - nothing will happen.
      If only not a new war with the States.
      For all their successes, there are not many who wish.
      1. 0
        26 September 2021 15: 36
        Come on. How does this not happen? A nuclear power plant with thick walls and numerous personnel and levels of protection is one thing.
        And another thing is a reactor on a truck.
        What protection it can have against an ATGM or a drone is a very big question :)
        1. 0
          26 September 2021 15: 40
          Quote: Denis812
          A nuclear power plant with thick walls and numerous personnel and levels of protection is one thing.
          And another thing is a reactor on a truck.

          In which theater do you see the reactor on the truck and the UAV attacking it?
          The States left Afgan.
          They will leave Iraq (and hopefully Syria) at the end of the year.
          So where are these "trucks" going to attack the UAV?
          And whose UAV could it be? bully
  15. +1
    26 September 2021 13: 03
    Just let them be used on their territory. Shells with uranium rods have been scattered all over the world, and now the reactors will start.
  16. 0
    26 September 2021 14: 32
    Maybe in the future they should be more ready for a full-scale war in the world.
  17. 0
    26 September 2021 15: 34
    We had a similar project "Arbus". The idea was very interesting, but it was not possible to solve the problem of organic heat carrier degradation. Why organic? In fact, it was not activated, which solved the problem of protection against radiation of the primary circuit, and this is the mass of the installation.
  18. -2
    27 September 2021 06: 09
    And let them equip all their bases in the Middle East and Europe with them.
    Only American, and their allied troops with such a leaky air defense, and equip with such.
  19. -1
    27 September 2021 10: 51
    Why should they develop? Let them buy from us and that's it. laughing
  20. 0
    27 September 2021 11: 53
    Are they preparing for the colonization of Mars?
    The dream was ... Was on Mars ...