China: so they scare or get scared

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In the article about the creation of a new military bloc AUKUS, I promised to consider the situation from the opposite side.

What the United States and Britain want, using Australia as a scarecrow for the PRC, I think, is understandable. Today we will consider the reaction to this event in China.

Was Beijing scared? What letter should be in the word "scare": "g" or "k"?

The new military bloc, in fact, concerns not only China. It is dangerous enough for Russia as well. True, this danger is not yet so noticeable outwardly, but in the short term, immediately after Australia joins the elite club of nuclear submarine owners, there will be real threats to our Far East and the Northern Sea Route.

It is not for nothing that the Secretary of the Russian Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, general of the army, former head of the FSB of the Russian Federation, spoke about this bloc. It is clear that an official of this level, a professional intelligence officer of this class, simply does not officially say anything. Nikolai Patrushev's words are an open warning to the United States that the Russian Federation will react as required by our military doctrine.

Until now, there were only six states in the world with nuclear submarines in the Navy.

In Europe, besides Russia, there are only two countries that have such weapons - Britain and France. The rest - the United States, China, India and, again, Russia, are located exactly in the region where AUKUS is being created. Australia, as is clear from the geography, will act in the same place.

Europe today is in complete prostration. It was understood that for the United States and Britain, the EU is no longer the favorite. The Americans showed that the Anglo-Saxons do not need Europe. We have written about this trend for a long time. The Moor has done his job ... Washington does not care that there are a lot of problems in the EU today, connected precisely with the actions of the United States.

By inertia, European politicians continue to believe that the goals of the United States and Europe coincide, but gradually the understanding is coming that European states need to become truly independent. No one hears the protests of Europeans.

Each donkey, as it turned out, wears its own ears. The Eastern sages are right.

China has long assumed something like this and has long taken measures to neutralize the danger

So China.

Almost immediately after the announcement of the creation of a new military bloc, the United States received an official response from Beijing. It sounded from the lips of the Ambassador of the People's Republic of China to the United States, Qin Gang. I quote from the TASS report:

“Cooperation on nuclear submarines between the United States, Britain and Australia will only accelerate the arms race. It undermines regional peace and stability and neglects international non-proliferation efforts. This is extremely irresponsible. "

"... it is important that security issues in the Indo-Pacific region are addressed by the states located there."

One does not need to have seven spans on the forehead to understand that China is concerned not so much with the creation of a new alliance as with the proliferation of nuclear technologies and the violation of fundamental treaties on this issue. In an unstable world, trying to increase the number of owners of nuclear technology really looks like a big foolishness.

The transfer of technology and, more importantly, weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons, such as the Tamaghawks, is fundamentally changing the situation. The US is "laying firewood for a big fire" in the region. Indeed, the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region will be deadly for everyone.

Why is China not very concerned about the military plans of Washington and London?

It is clear that some emergency measures will be taken, but there is no panic. The answer is simple enough. Beijing has perfectly calculated the possible steps of the United States and has already taken the necessary measures.

Let me remind you of one important document that many, including in the West, have somehow forgotten.

For those readers who lived in the USSR and remember the congresses of the CPSU, everything will be clear, but for those for whom the USSR is story, I will explain: the report of the leader of the Communist Party at the congress is a plan for the development of the country for the period until the new congress.

So, October 18, 2017, Beijing, CCP Chairman Xi Jinping's report at the 19th CCP Congress.

"We will strive to ensure that by 2035, basically, modernize the national defense and army, and by the middle of this century, completely transform the People's Army of China into the armed forces of the advanced world level."

The modernization program of the Chinese army is well thought out and really quite serious. Including the modernization of the Navy. And there is no doubt that it will be implemented. Therefore, the creation of an atomic underwater fleet in Australia it looks a little ridiculous today.

It is more an attempt to catch up than to break away from the catching one.

Naturally, the question arises about the technologies that China has yet to create and which the United States already has. After all, this is what they are talking about in London, Washington and other capitals of the world. The answer to this question already exists. But somewhat in a different area of ​​defense construction. I mean missile early warning systems.

Russia has shared some technologies, and today the PRC's anti-missile shield is quite reliable.

And what prevents you from doing this in the submarine fleet?

There are technologies that are outdated for us, but revolutionary for others ... Why not sell them to our allies?

In addition, what prevents Russia from patrolling the territorial waters of the PRC and nearby areas of the world's oceans within the framework of an interstate agreement?

Europe wants to trade, not fight

Speaking about the calmness of the Chinese about the reaction of the Europeans to the creation of a new military bloc, it should be recalled that China is not only a powerful military power, but also an economic giant capable of competing with the United States on equal terms. And no one today can clearly say which of these two competing states is richer, more promising for cooperation.

In recent years, Americans have significantly tempered their ardor for European business. Investments are directed most often to other parts of the world. But business cannot develop without attracting capital. And this is where wealthy Chinese private and state-owned companies emerge. The Chinese are happy to buy European factories and factories.

This policy leads to the fact that not only small and medium-sized companies, but also serious large enterprises, often using the most modern technologies in various fields, fall under the control of Chinese business. This practice allows the PRC to save on the development of new technologies and to modernize its industry at a rapid pace.

European companies today quite often, to one degree or another, are controlled or cooperate with Chinese business. Naturally, in such a situation, the Europeans are not inclined to take any action against their partners.

Americans understand this. Perhaps this is one of the reasons for the cooling of the United States towards the EU.

Today old Europe speaks openly about the desire to trade, not fight. The historical memory of peoples has not yet been canceled ...

We are in the west, the Chinese are in the east

What further actions should be expected from the PRC?

It is clear that the collective West has clearly "assigned responsibilities." NATO considers Russia to be its main enemy, the new AUKUS bloc is clearly anti-Chinese. Therefore, we have two options for future action.

The first one is every man for himself. This option is obviously a losing one because China and Russia are states that have strengths and weaknesses. The weaknesses of the Russian economy are perfectly complemented by the Chinese economy. The weakness of the Chinese PLA is compensated by the Russian army.

Therefore, it is most efficient to go the second way. By developing cooperation in the military and economic fields. We are helping China, China is helping us. In other words, the collective West versus the collective East.

In my opinion, this is exactly what should be expected in the near future.

The PLA will participate in the exercises of the Russian army, and Russian units and units will carry out combat missions in exercises in China. We will observe the same picture on the seas. The creation of the AUKUS block simply leaves no choice for either Russia or China.

Perhaps all of us, both Russians and Chinese, will have to remember the old Soviet song:

Moscow - Beijing.
Moscow - Beijing.
They go, people go forward.
For the bright path, for lasting peace
Under the banner of freedom.

Comments

[Jacket in stock]

what prevents Russia from patrolling the territorial waters of the PRC and the surrounding areas of the world's oceans within the framework of an interstate agreement?

Very funny.
We have neither the strength nor the funds for our own waters, and then there are Chinese ones ...

[Old tanker]

The author in his mind generally remained in the times of the Soviet Union.

[Victor Tsenin]

How should it be? The Cold War has returned in a new incarnation, the centers of power are the same, so everything is quite logically presented by the author.

[Sergey Atamanov]

Why do you think so ? Is (at least in theory) an alliance between China and the Russian Federation impossible?

[Stas157]

Weaknesses of the Russian economy perfectly complemented by the Chinese economy.
Weakness of the Chinese PLA compensated by the Russian army.

Sounds, but has nothing to do with reality.

When was the weakness of the Russian economy complemented by the Chinese economy? The only possible option is that China will not fail to take advantage of the weakness of the Russian economy to its advantage, but not to Russia's advantage.
And I don’t want to talk about the weakness of the PLA and how the Russian army compensates for it.

In my opinion According to, this is exactly what should be expected in the near future.

That's it. Staver, as an author, needs to go to the "Opinions", but not" Analytics ".

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

That's it. Staver, as an author, needs to go to the "Opinions" section, but not "Analytics".

That's for sure, analytics is weak in this case.
It is now very important for Russia to keep its distance from both China and the United States, while cooperating more with Europe. In this case, a strong pole will be formed, which will be a counterweight for a very long period of time .. But here, as always, there are a lot of BUT .. We have too big a gap with Europe .. A gap in all spheres, legal, cultural .. mentality again .. To put it simply, from the standpoint of an ordinary man in the street .. That is a family living, and on the next cell is a gopnik .. It seems that everything is fine, but there is no desire to have anything to do with him ..
As for China, China needs to rigidly set conditions, where first economic aid to us, and then, possible military cooperation .. But then again .. the Chinese will not risk dealing with the Gopnik .. because our ideology is very similar to the United States and the Gopnik can at any time to go over ... they will be afraid of that.
But we must pay tribute to China in how they defend their citizens .. recently exchanged the owner of the Huawei .. for Canadians .. despite the fact that our authorities have been chewing snot for their citizens for decades ..
Here is a video on the topic .. it's not in the direction of Booth .. but in the direction of our citizens, who were impudently stolen and kept in prisons, with the complete inaction of our authorities.

[Pensive Lawyer]

Well, we cannot be called gopniks. What did we do to call us that? Ukraine, Georgia and others - these were reciprocal steps. If the Georgians didn’t arrange a piu-piu from jet systems in peaceful cities, there would be no conflict. If the Ukrainians did not broadcast about the eradication of all Russian and the construction of a NATO base in Crimea, they would still be intact. If the Azerbaijanis did not begin to threaten the territorial integrity of Armenia within their recognized borders, there would be no provocation with a downed turntable and Karabakh would be completely under their control.
We react harshly to the turn of yesterday's friends expressed in actions towards us. This is not the behavior of a gopnik.
Liberals will remember about human rights and so on ... that's just a misfortune for people, not states. States do not care about the rights of citizens from a neighbor. UAE as an ally of the United States and women's rights in the emirates as an illustration. Only in 2017, the imams seemed to admit that women have a soul, and therefore at the level of cattle and not household utensils. And nothing, dear allies.
So China looks at us as a potential ally.
Of course, China has ambitions as a leader. This is complemented by our agreement to be not number 1, but number 2. Therefore, China has no contradictions with us here, we will calmly react if China becomes the hegemon, provided that no one will put pressure on us.
In terms of mutual benefits, our economies really complement each other. We can cover the needs of China in resources, if we tighten up with our black soil and steppes, then in food, and this is a strategic commodity. China can easily provide us with everything we want in terms of luxury goods, consumer electronics, clothing ... well, in general.
From a military point of view, our scientific potential is higher than that of China. Well, this is evolution and natural selection, so much blood is mixed with us, and the cross always strives to take the best from the parents. Our engineers, give them normal funding and normal conditions without effective managers are able to work wonders, are capable of breakthroughs. China, in this regard, is about gradual development. Accordingly, he needs our potential, and he is ready to finance it. And China ... it can implement for both of us any wunderwolf that engineers come up with. We do not have the capacity and money for this. China has. How much do you think it will cost China, hypothetically, according to our drawings, to update our entire fleet of tanks for armats, and also stamp it for itself? And how long do we need to ensure at least our own modernization?

[Svarog]

Well, we cannot be called gopniks. What did we do to call us that?

Gopniks-power. Which robs the people brazenly and cynically. They stole pensions, elections, resources .. yes, everything .. The constitution is changed as you like, the courts do not work .. more precisely, they work for gopniks .. the percentage of acquittals is ridiculous .. And the guarantor himself often positions himself like a yard kid.

How much do you think it will cost China, hypothetically, according to our drawings, to update our entire fleet of tanks for armats, and also stamp it for itself? And how long do we need to ensure at least our own modernization?

I expressed my opinion on China. We have no intersection points .. the ideology is different, the mentality is generally different .. the goals are different .. The fact that the Chinese quickly copy and produce is not news. But we ourselves must produce, otherwise we will always depend on everyone. I do not mind if there is cooperation with China ... but it should be on mutually beneficial terms ... while cooperation is one-sided and not in our favor .. Yes, in fact, it will always be so, as long as oil and gas are our everything ..

[Pensive Lawyer]

Um, I repeat, before our elections, pensions, constitutions, courts and other things, China does not care. This is our business, they do not care.
I don’t know, by the way, who stole what from you, they didn’t steal anything from me, because I didn’t have resources, I didn’t count on retirement and I don’t count, elections ... if I went, I would vote for EDRO.
The verdicts of the courts in criminal cases, by the way, are not beneficial to the state. I think you have not met in courts with small representatives of the highest echelon of power. I’m not, just listen to all the rumors about the work of judges. Which, which is typical, are practically absent in the professional legal environment. There are cases where the judges initially listen more to the other side (for example, disputes with the tax authorities), but if you are right, the decision will be in your favor, you just need to put in more effort than usual.
Of course, there are no references to specific cases, where decisions were made in spite of everything, and even in favor of the terrible power, as always, but this is what the fighters against the regime say, how can they lie, yes, Mr. Svarog?
And I strongly disagree with the idea that we should produce everything right now. For the army, yes. For the civilian sector - only basic necessities. And we make them ourselves, there are enough of them on the market.
And the question is - who do we depend on? Please name a power, in addition to the United States with its Visa banking system, on whom the motherland depends. From selling resources? The owner of the grocery store also depends on the buyers in this sense - do you suggest everyone to close everything and sit in the warehouse with food in order to be independent? But ... scary to say, we also depend on stores. After all, if they are not there, we will die of hunger (I'm talking about large cities). Doesn't it seem that the consumer is no less, and in the case of selling the resources, and not the finished product, even more depends on the manufacturer than the manufacturer on the consumer? Without resources, dear, everything will stop. Especially without energy. The more China buys from us, the more it is dependent. If China buys 8 out of 10 cubic meters of gas from us, their dependence will be almost absolute. If we add China to the normal food that our fields can give, they will kiss us passionately and, not giving a damn about religion, baptize children with us. And we will do the same for good technology and gadgets. cheap bright dresses and other items of increased comfort.
So what's wrong with the current relationship with China? What dare they buy what we sell? Oil and gas are not our everything, they are just ours, but just for those who do not have oil and gas, they are everything.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Stas157

That's it. Staver, as an author, needs to go to the "Opinions" section, but not "Analytics".

Or even add a separate section - "Fantasy".

[Eug]

The weakness of the Russian economy provides China with additional opportunities to exert pressure on Russian policy. And no illusions are needed ...

[Jacket in stock]

the most efficient way is to go the second way. By developing cooperation in the military and economic fields. We help China, China helps us

How naive.
Is that to sign up to China as a junior partner.

The weaknesses of the Russian economy are perfectly complemented by the Chinese economy. The weakness of the Chinese PLA is compensated by the Russian army.

Ha...
Especially about "the Chinese economy complements rossiyskuyu" .... fell under the table.
With such a difference in economies, the weakness of the PLA is a matter of time, a very short time.
While there are several positions where they still need us, but there are fewer and fewer of them, but there are more and more Chinese components in our equipment, and they are already seriously raising the issue of purchasing not just components, but entire ships, for example.

[Old tanker]

And what is the "weakness" of the PLA? Especially in comparison with the RF Armed Forces? Perhaps only in the absence of combat experience.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Old Tankman

what is the "weakness" of the PLA? Especially in comparison with the RF Armed Forces?

Aircraft engines, nuclear submarines, ICBMs, combat helicopters, BMD ...
But for how long ...

[Old tanker]

This is the weakness of the Chinese military-industrial complex, not the PLA.

[Doccor18]

Agree. But due to the weakness of the military-industrial complex, the weaknesses of the army also flock. They buy engines, air defense systems, helicopters, but then in peacetime, and what will happen in war, who can know ...

[Old tanker]

At present, the war between the two highly developed states will be fleeting. And they will fight with the equipment that was accumulated in peacetime. Well, the imperfection of technology at all times tried to compensate for the tactics and training of troops. And at the expense of learning from the Chinese, everything is even very good.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Jacket in stock

How naive.

The author wants this, but ...

Large Chinese banks are well integrated into international payment systems. Most of them are members of the CHIPS system, through which about 96% of international dollar payments pass. The status of a participant in this system gives the right to carry out dollar transactions directly without the intermediation of another correspondent bank in the country, but the bank needs to develop rules to comply with the requirements of the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC compliance program), including screening of customers and bank payment messages. Failure to comply with US sanctions threatens Chinese banks with huge fines: just recall the examples of BNP Paribas (fined $ 8,9 billion in 2014 for non-compliance with sanctions against Sudan, Cuba and Iran), Commerzbank ($ 1,45 billion in 2015) and HSBC ($ 1,9, 2012 billion in XNUMX).

And Chinese banks have supported economic sanctions against Russia - this is a reality.

Moscow - Beijing.
Moscow - Beijing.
They go, people go forward.
For the bright path, for lasting peace
Under the banner of freedom.

And these are the dreams of the author, the affairs of long (very long) days gone by ...

[Per se.]

Quote: Doccor18

And these are the dreams of the author, the affairs of long (very long) days gone by ...

Unfortunately, as I think, the author is a kind of mouthpiece for the policy of our authorities, where literally "Xi Jinping is a friend of Putin" ... Our wise government with its "import substitution" has already reached the point that more and more areas of Russian fields are sown with imported GMOs. where, to the technical dependence on components, a potential food dependence is added, such sugar beets and potatoes do not produce seeds.

Again "cunning plans", which completely leave behind the scenes, why is China allowed what is allowed, despite the fact that red Korea is an outcast, under boycott and sanctions, and everything to "red" China is like "water off a duck's back", although China is dependent, and its economy of world counterfeiting is not hard to slam down.

All this is very reminiscent of the situation when the Anglo-Saxons allowed the Third Reich to rise, now a new "Reich" is already in the east, and this is only because Russia is still a potentially self-sufficient country, and is still the only one in the world that can destroy the United States. Here, only, the whole question is how soon the last point of "no return" will be passed, by eating and destroying the heritage of the superpower by Russian renegades, to the delight of their western masters, with whom they pretend stormy butting ... Money, where is it without them.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Per se.

All this is very similar to the situation when the Anglo-Saxons allowed the Third Reich to rise,

In fact, from century to century, the same British "tricks", and successfully work to this day ...

[parusnik]

Was Beijing scared? What letter should be in the word "scare": "g" or "k"?

Here, the reader should laugh, according to the author.

This policy leads to the fact that not only small and medium-sized companies, but also serious large enterprises, often using the most modern technologies in various fields, fall under the control of Chinese business. This practice allows the PRC to save on the development of new technologies and to modernize its industry at a rapid pace.

And what prevents Russia from pursuing such a policy?

[Cowbra]

The author put the cart slightly in front of the horse. And here are two mistakes.
First, the reason for any military action is money. The fact that "Europe is not a priority for the United States and England" is formulated more simply - THEY WERE OUT THERE! The market has already been lost, Europe is tied to China, not the United States. Everything else should be viewed as an attempt by the United States to preserve the fragments of the former market - at least Britain and its commonwealth, just by such demarches tightly tied to itself - Britain is now an economic ENEMY for France, they now have nowhere to return, they will not understand, sir. The United States creates its own closed cluster - North America + Commonwealth + pieces of South America, where they did not shit so much, or where there has been a long colony, like in Panama
Second: there is no independent British policy. Since the end of WWII, no. England in AUKUS is the vice-chairman, an office is registered for it, they have no voting rights, not that weight.

[nikvic46]

I like the Asian mentality. They calmly do their job without any hysterics. The peculiarity of China is that it does not seek a place in the world. It is often found. Another feature: in addition to large exports, it can process all imports. Should you be afraid of China? It's not the same for everybody. Thousands of young people left us for free education in China. And for such people, places in our society are not reserved.

[Boris55]

Quote: nikvic46

Should you be afraid of China?

Under the tsars, Russia was friends with the West against China - we have a revolution.
The USSR (under Stalin) was friends with China against the West - the USSR was the first economy in the world.
The USSR (from Khrushchev to Yeltsin) was friends with the West against China - we have perestroika.
Today we are friends with China against the West - Russia is the 5th economy in the world.

Conclusion: you shouldn't be afraid of China, you should be friends with it.

On this topic. Western scenario.

The World Control Center moves from the USA to China, from England to Iran, from the Vatican to Armenia.

Their "command post" is transferred from Switzerland (Sweden) to New Zealand. To protect it, it is necessary to strengthen Australia, as well as to deprive the peoples of Europe of advanced technologies.

Green technologies are meant to shut down and deactivate high-tech enterprises such as nuclear power plants. When poorly educated people come to power in Europe (Africans, Afghans, Islamists, etc., who have filled Europe), the damage to the planet from broken solar panels and wind turbines scrapped will be much less than blown up nuclear power plants.

The Center of the World is concentrated in the Indo-Pacific region. It is more convenient to manage it from New Zealand.

Not everything is going smoothly in the West - Russia is in the way.

INGIL in Syria was supposed to defeat Iran and become the leader of the Islamic World, Europe would be filled with refugees to the limit and they would begin to dictate their conditions to the governments of European countries - radical Islam .. Correct Islam, under the leadership of Iran, should come to Europe, reformat it and create new states ... Russia, having come to Syria, stopped this scenario.

Azerbaijan with the Turks attacked Armenia. The goal is to cleanse the territory of Armenia from the population, accusing Azerbaijan of this and cleanse it with the help of Turkey ... The devastated lands were to be filled with the right Armenians - who had never been under the wing of the Russian civilization. By introducing peacekeepers there, Russia saved not only Armenians, but also Azerbaijanis.

[demo]

Especially for the author of this passage.
"The PLA will participate in the exercises of the Russian army, and Russian units and units will carry out combat missions on exercises in China. "

A combat mission, or Tactical mission, is a mission assigned to a superior commander of the formation of the armed forces, or to one or more military personnel to achieve a specific goal in a military operation.
A team of authors. Volume 1, article "Combat mission" // Soviet military encyclopedia / Ed. A.A. Grechko. - M .: Voenizdat, 1976.

Is it okay that Chinese soldiers will participate in exercises, while ours will be in combat operations?
There are a lot of us Russians, why feel sorry for us!
And let the Chinese train in peaceful conditions.

I understand what the author of the article wanted to say differently, but then it would be necessary to strain and think about the wording.
Low bow to Staver.

[Nyrobsky]

A full-fledged military alliance between China and Russia is a headache for the United States, however, having created a new AUKUS block, their mattresses are pushing them to create such an alliance. So it's like a proverb - "A cat scratches on its back."

[Mikhail3]

And what prevents you from doing this in the submarine fleet?

Yes, nothing interferes. Moreover, everything has already been done. These same technologies are the search for boats on a turbulent wake. To implement it, you need to have satellites, which China has in abundance, as well as high-precision video cameras and software for analyzing images and videos. Naturally, working with the United States in all industries, the Chinese have already been limiting all this for a long time.
The boats WERE invisible. This time has passed forever, now these are relatively slow, weakly protected, completely detectable missile carriers that can be sunk at any desired moment when you have anti-submarine weapons. As a component of a nuclear strike, the boats surrendered very badly.
So the union itself is dangerous. Dangerous, has political consequences, etc. But the boats themselves are far from being uber-sword.

[dauria]

which can be fired at any time you want, when you have anti-submarine weapons.

Well this is overkill. Seeing the boat is not enough. Moreover, even this, let's say, is "not quite decided." Anti-submarine weapons must be used before the boat fires. Not much time. That is, the boat must be grazed, sitting on its tail in a half-hour readiness to destroy. And here it is already difficult.

[Mikhail3]

Well, yes. Detection tools are needed primarily by the aggressor. The war will begin with the destruction of boats. The question is that for the side that will defend, the boats are already completely useless, they will be destroyed in the first place, that is, they are no longer a deterrent, but only an attack.

[Fanur Galiev]

The United States does not view Russia as an adversary. Rather, certainly not at the level of the same China. On the contrary, the United States is trying in every possible way to establish contact with Russia, hinting and negotiating so that they do not climb into the arms of China. Pay attention to how the West reacted to the last elections in Russia. Not a single comment, no reproaches for opacity. Even more. Western platforms are blocking opposition applications, such as "Smart Voting", but they stopped remembering about Navalny. Doesn't this mean that we have already agreed on something?

[Mikhail3]

What a kind of "networking". As in Zadornov - "he brought a gun from home and began to shoot after his drinking companions, so that they would not run away, but return!"

[Evil troll]

Was it in vain that Russian hackers appointed Bidonenko?

[A. Privalov]

immediately after Australia joins the elite club of nuclear submarine owners, there will be real threats to our Far East and the Northern Sea Route.

Australia will be dragged into the NSR ...
And Pakistan, for an hour, is not going to war against Finland? This threat, perhaps, will be more real.

In an unstable world, trying to increase the number of owners of nuclear technology really looks like a big foolishness ...
... Indeed, the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region will be deadly for everyone.

Alexander Mikhailovich, you're scaring me. I, too, am not a young person, my memory is not the same as it was 30-40 years ago, but it’s impossible! Reread your own articles from time to time, where you are quite loyal to write about Iran, worried about the sanctions imposed on it. After all, he just climbs out of his skin, just to reach for nuclear weapons. For nothing else, as for the program for the creation of nuclear weapons, he rakes all these sanctions.

To this, by Iranian efforts, was added the issue of the export of terror by the Ayatollah regime - one of the most difficult in the negotiations between Iran and the United States. Tehran insists on a return to the text of the Vienna agreements, Washington demands to limit Iran's missile tests and end the support of the Ayatollahs for terrorists. In all this, all the moderate regimes of the Arab countries of the Middle East are in complete solidarity with the United States. For them, the regime of reckless ayatollahs already spoils their lives, and now, they are still preparing a nuclear club under the secret. Why would they be so happy? They want a quiet, well-fed life.

Major General Golyam-Ali Rashid, commander of the Iranian headquarters at Khatam al-Anbiya, said that six Iranian armies are operating outside Iran.
Rashid called armies:
Yemeni Houthis,
Lebanese Hezbollah,
Palestinian groups "Islamic Jihad" and Hamas,
Iraqi al-Hashd al-Shaabi; and pro-government forces in Syria.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: A. Privalov

For nothing else, as for the program for the creation of nuclear weapons, he rakes all these sanctions.

And if there is no ayatol regime, will Iran be able to use nuclear weapons or not?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And if there is no ayatol regime, will Iran be able to use nuclear weapons or not?

If the Ayatollah regime does not exist, Makar, Iran will simply not need nuclear weapons.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

I expected such an answer. And it is certainly wrong. Ayatols can come and go, but the economic interests of the world's leading powers remain. And at the moment, only nuclear weapons can be a guarantee of security. Capitalism and nothing personal.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I expected such an answer. And it is certainly wrong. Ayatols can come and go, but the economic interests of the world's leading powers remain. And at the moment, only nuclear weapons can be a guarantee of security. Capitalism and nothing personal.

Before the arrival of the Ayatollahs, the Middle East lived with Iran in friendship and harmony.
Iran traded well with Israel, received advanced agricultural technologies from it, Israeli architects designed a lot for Iran, especially after the earthquakes of 1960 and 1962, Iranian students studied in Israel.
The Israelis were building entire areas in other regions of Iran. Thus, in the 1970s, in the Iranian port cities of Bandar Abbas and Bushir, as well as on the island of Khark, the Israeli company RASCO, with the participation of the Iranian counterparty Khadish, led a project commissioned by the Iranian Navy. The construction was carried out by the Israeli architect Dan Eitan and included 12 thousand housing units and all the related infrastructure.
In the suburbs of Tehran, the Center for Israeli Achievements in Medicine and Pharmacology was opened, where Israeli doctors trained locals, and with the help of Israeli dentist Ephraim Shaki, a dentistry center was created in Shiraz (later - the base for the country's first university department of dental diseases).
Tankers from Iran arrived at the Israeli port of Eilat, and through a special pipeline the oil was transported to the city of Ashdod on the Mediterranean coast, then, it was transported to Europe. This is instead of using Suez or plodding around Africa.
So what if Iran needed nuclear weapons?
Iran did not surround NATO in order to "take oil from the people."
No one has any territorial or economic claims to Iran.

As for the "economic interests of the leading world powers," then looking at how Iran is very successfully geopolitically competing with Russia in the Middle East and North Caucasus, and economically with its oil reserves and on the world market, how it enriches and accumulates uranium to create nuclear weapons while seriously increasing its capabilities in relation to conventional weapons, then for Russia, today Iran is much more a headache than for other "world powers".

[IS-80_RVGK2]

The fact that then it was good for Israel is understandable. And what about ordinary Iranians? And then I somehow read a little about the Iranian revolution. And I got the impression that the Shah's Iran did not resemble heaven on earth, but rather the opposite. And then there was the USSR. In general, then it is not now. Then there was no wild confrontation between the capitalist countries. There was no global crisis in the world economy. And there was no such decline of socialist
movements in the world.

Quote: A. Privalov

then for Russia, today Iran is much more a headache than for other "world powers".

No more than Israel. Don't pull the owl over the globe. Only nuclear weapons guarantee security at the moment. Capitalism is like that.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

The fact that then it was good for Israel is understandable. And what about ordinary Iranians? And then I somehow read a little about the Iranian revolution. And I got the impression that the Shah's Iran did not resemble heaven on earth, but rather the opposite. And then there was the USSR. In general, then it is not now. Then there was no wild confrontation between the capitalist countries. There was no global crisis in the world economy. And there was no such decline of socialist
movements in the world.

Quote: A. Privalov

then for Russia, today Iran is much more a headache than for other "world powers".

No more than Israel. Don't pull the owl over the globe. Only nuclear weapons guarantee security at the moment. Capitalism is like that.

In truth, facts are stubborn things, but believers are stubborn.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

It's true. In your attitude, I almost lost hope. However, what to demand from the elderly. By old age, a person is extremely reluctant to change his views. It is all the more difficult to admit to myself that I have been wrong all my life.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

It's true. In your attitude, I almost lost hope. However, what to demand from the elderly. By old age, a person is extremely reluctant to change his views. It is all the more difficult to admit to myself that I have been wrong all my life.

Well, thank you for your kind words. This, as I understand it, you congratulated me on the International Day of Older Persons? The question is rhetorical.

[tralflot1832]

The atmosphere in the UN Security Council conference room is now cheerful. The "Englishwoman" demands the convening of the UN Security Council on the issue of the use of nuclear weapons by China against the AUKUS members, China, Russia and France, which has joined them, in general on the creation of the Bloc, and not on the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

[Aleksandr97]

The fact that "on the surface", the creation of AUKUS will push to the development of military-technical cooperation between China and the Philippines. Fortunately, Twitter launched the popular hashtag #OustDuterte ("Down with Duterte") - a stereotyped quasi-color "revolution" leaves Duterte no other options and will continue the line after the termination of the 1998 bilateral Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA), which regulated the stay of American troops in the Philippines.

[zenion]

A little more than 300 years ago, Australia did not exist, and now it is not needed. Paint it blue and it will be easier for everyone, and for them too.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The USA found another fool - to pull the Chinese dragon by the tail. This "lucky" was Australia. Congratulations! The Australian point goes to the Chinese auditorium.

[looker-on]

The author, a simple question: If everything is so fine, then where is the Russia-China military alliance? I myself will answer: it will not be in the foreseeable future because China needs it as a fifth leg. And it cannot go to it because it has integrated and sprouted into the World. The world is tied to China and China to the World in most sales markets. Russia did not fit in and China did.