Africa will help: Ukraine received Nigerian liquefied gas for the first time

By order of the operator of the Kremenchug oil refinery, Ukraine received for the first time Nigerian liquefied petroleum gas (LPG). The supplier is the trading company Vitol.

The delivery was carried out by the Gas Honor vessel, on board of which there were five thousand tons of LPG, also called liquefied petroleum gas. Its composition is propane-butane. The fuel arrived at the Ukrloadsystem terminal located in the port of Odessa. The gas price has not been disclosed.

In total, from the beginning of the year to August inclusive, almost 82 thousand tons of liquefied gas arrived in Ukraine. This volume is considered a record one. For comparison, in 2020, 51,6 thousand tons of this fuel entered the country. Moreover, the largest supplier of LPG. Its share in the total number of deliveries was more than half.

To some extent, the intensification of liquefied gas supplies is associated with the completion of the construction of Nord Stream 2, which may hit the budget of Ukraine. Kiev fears that Russia will stop the transit of its pipeline fuel through the country's territory, or at least significantly reduce it. In this regard, the Ukrainian Minister of Energy expressed concern that then the maintenance of the gas transmission system would become unprofitable.

Now they decided to stake in Ukraine on LNG from Nigeria. Africa will help. But the price of this gas, according to experts, can be at least twice the price of the Russian one.

Let us remind you that earlier Ukraine bought a consignment of coal from Africa. But the supply of this fuel from South Africa was of a one-time nature. Coal was also purchased from Australia.

Comments

[Artemion3]

Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

[Alexander 3]

You can't understand mad people. You have to be the same to understand.

[dauria]

You can't understand mad people. You have to be the same to understand.

What is this crazy. Money is not your own - budget. "Bakshish" for a deal from the seller in his pocket. Here is the sobriety of thought of the purest water.

[bobba94]

Bakshish is wrong ..... it's right to say "swag" .....

[dauria]

to say "swag" correctly

Maybe .. Although the word "bakshish" was well understood by the merchants and gave a small gift for the purchase. Where this word came from, I have no idea. But everyone used it.
And here I have seen examples of this supposedly "madness" many times in our country. Even under the USSR. And now it’s rather the norm. The head of the OKS (capital construction department) of any state enterprise signs incredible inflated estimates, throwing away a lot of money. Although in everyday life for his own house, he is the first-class one, capable of deceiving and leaving any contractor with his nose. Some kind of selective "madness".

[lucul]

Even under the USSR. And now it’s rather the norm. The head of the OKS (capital construction department) of any state enterprise signs incredible inflated estimates, throwing away a lot of money .

I will explain )))
This is called sabotage, or in simple terms - to make it as bad as possible, only to make the "reg" fall. In our country, all oppas in Belarus do this - they try to inflict maximum damage on the state (depending on the position held), only for the people to rise up and overthrow Lukashenka, so they openly say - you need to do as WORSE as possible ..

[dauria]

This is called sabotage, or in simple terms - to make it as bad as possible, only to make the "reg" fall.

Come on ... It's called easier - a bribe. What a nafig "regime", "struggle". The money from the budget is divided between the bosses from the customer and the office - the executor. And all the so-called "tenders" are famously bypassed by additional small contracts. To me, too, a secret. What's in the Russian Federation, what's in Ukraine, what's in the United States.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: lucul

This is called sabotage, or in simple terms - to make it as bad as possible, only to make the "reg" fall. In our country, all oppas in Belarus do this - they try to inflict maximum damage on the state (depending on the position held), only for the people to rise up and overthrow Lukashenka, so they openly say - you need to do as WORSE as possible ..

Don't confuse private wool with public wool

[Looking for]

and maybe it is worth less to err.

[lucul]

Here is the sobriety of thought of the purest water.

Indeed - here's an example

)))
Sarcasm (for those in the tank).

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: lucul

Indeed - here's an example

Not all the intelligence of the Ukrainian language - change yours.
Not everyone understands Ukrainian - translate your links.

[lucul]

Not all the intelligence of the Ukrainian language - change yours.

Come on, any Slav will understand)))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: lucul

Come on, any Slav will understand)))

Don't flatter yourself ...

e) With all due respect to other languages, The language of communication in the comments to the published articles is Russian. Unfortunately, speakers of other languages ​​often use them to clarify relationships with each other, while using obscene language;

[lucul]

Don't flatter yourself ...

For non-Slavs I translate: - "the Kremlin is on fire (fifth point) from the fact that the price of gas in Ukraine is set by the free market, and not by them."
Now only who is on fire, when the same market set the gas price at $ 900 for Ukraine against $ 200 that was offered by Gazprom)))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: lucul

I translate for non-Slavs

Please accept our gratitude for your courtesy and tact ...

[lucul]

Please accept our gratitude for your courtesy and tact ...

That awkward feeling when the sarcasm was too subtle ...

[Evil troll]

They just overdid you

[mister-red]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: lucul

I translate for non-Slavs

Please accept our gratitude for your courtesy and tact ...

In fact, the person did not write, but sent a photo with a poster.
I am not Russian and not even a Slav, but my knowledge of Russian allows me to understand this text.

[tralflot1832]

And as it turned out, the Gazik is Israeli, your price is close to the truth.

[Jager]

In any case, "bloody Putin is to blame," he made the Nigerians share gas at inflated prices)
In general, this is a drop in the ocean, these 80 thousand tons of gas. Just enough for the cylinders in the village. And even then not everyone.

[Okolotochny]

Multiply it by a thousand. This is roughly equivalent to the volume of pipeline gas. 80 million tons, something like that.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

I don’t understand, and I don’t want to! I am not a chicken - to teach bird language .... I am Russian.

[Xnumx vis]

Svidoprostitutes Palae, but you can't bite your elbow. Hai are importing gas, coal even from Papua New Guinea.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Market decided ... Now let them pay $ 900 for gas

[tihonmarine]

Quote: dauria

"Bakshish" for a deal from the seller in his pocket.

Bakshish gives the buyer to the seller.

[dauria]

Bakshish gives the buyer to the seller.

Maybe, maybe ... Only in Kabul in 1985 did this mean a present to the buyer from the seller. Although, more precisely, it was understood as just a "gift". And don't care what they said wrong. Both the seller and the buyer understood this.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: dauria

It was only in Kabul in 1985 that this meant a present to the buyer from the seller.

In all Arab and Central Asian countries, baksheesh is the same everywhere. And Afghan probably is different.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

How long and hard did they pursue their dream of breaking away from us, even in spite of all the negative consequences ???

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Artemion3

Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

In principle, coal can also be bought in Poland.
Poland buys coal from Russia (about 13 million tons), but I think it will gladly resell it (with a surcharge ) some amount to Ukraine

[bayard]

Quote: cat Rusich

Quote: Artemion3
Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

In principle, coal can also be bought in Poland.

Under the guise of coal from Australia, coal mainly came from the Donbass (LPNR) with loading in Russian ports, about this scheme of Akhmetov to divorce the budget, a scandal arose in their press and the parliament more than once. Why Australian?
It's more expensive.
Coal comes from Donbass at a very low price, and having turned it into Australian, the price immediately skyrockets and you can at the same time raise the price for e-mail. energy, heating, etc. - this is all Akhmetov's business.

[antivirus]

the rinatka is to blame for everything.
but there is no power on the outskirts and never will be. there is no one even to look behind the heroes of market reforms.
only clowns are funny ..... or is there power?

[bayard]

And what is this stream of consciousness?

Quote: antivirus

but there is no power on the outskirts and never will be. even

Ukraine is ruled by not the people who make everyone laugh on TV, they were appointed \ "elected" for that, so that people had fun and the real owners did not interfere with their business.

Quote: antivirus

the rinatka is to blame for everything.

One of the leading oligarchs in that part of the land. It is a group of such people that determines the internal policy of this unfortunate country, of course, within the framework of what is permitted to them from the real owners of this territory, who do not live in it.
It's just that Akhmetov, in addition to metallurgy, also has most of the thermal energy under control. And coal mining. Since the 90s, production and financial chains have been built that should work. Coal plays a leading role in this segment of the energy sector, many boiler houses have been converted from gas to coal - and this is already income from heating.
And it doesn't matter where the coal comes from, from Russia, Poland, Africa, Australia or from the separated Donbass. If the financing of the electric power industry comes from the budget (and the government at the same time raises the prices for electricity), then the supplier of this energy is more interested in that this price is as high as possible, and the cost of purchasing / extracting coal, as low as possible.
And if the cheapest way is to get coal from Donbass, then it will go from Donbass, through gasket firms and declaring it as: African, American or Australian.
And the gas that came to Odessa came from Israel. And this is propane-butane - motor fuel for cars and for refueling gas cylinders. The terminal in Odessa belongs to the Privat group, as well as the gas station network. This is just a modest business of the Dnipropetrovsk oligarchs.

Quote: antivirus

to blame for everything

And no one there is "to blame", just the country (former), and now the territory, belongs to completely different people. And the goals that these owners set, and the plans that they are building for her ... do not fit into the understanding of "national interests", "sovereign state", "the interests of the population ... They have only their own plans, goals and objectives.

[tralflot1832]

The information is not correct, the Gas Honor vessel delivers gas from Israel from the port of Ashkelon. For the second time in a month. And it goes empty to Ashkelon. Why drag Africa?

[bayard]

And if we take into account that the receiving terminal in Odessa belongs to the Privat group, then everything is all the more clear and banal - propane-butane is a motor fuel for cars and for refueling gas cylinders. The Privat Group owns gas station networks, it is their modest business, and has nothing to do with providing the state and industry with natural gas. This is a gas for a purely niche use.

[tralflot1832]

I wonder who threw this news first.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Well Duc they really wanted it, that they were jumping for joy.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cat Rusich

Poland buys coal from Russia (about 13 million tons),

In the first half of 2021, Ukraine increased imports of Russian coal by 12,5 percent compared to the same period last year, to 6,7 million tons, according to data from the State Statistics Service of the State. The country as a whole, against the background of hot weather and high gas prices in Europe, sharply increased purchases of thermal coal abroad by 17 percent compared to the first half of 2020, to 10,1 million tons, Vedomosti writes.
Russian suppliers earned $ 587,8 million in sales to Ukraine, which is slightly more than a year earlier (567,8 million).

[cat Rusich]

Quote: tihonmarine

In the first half of 2021, Ukraine increased imports of Russian coal by 12,5 percent compared to the same period last year, to 6,7 million tons.

Ukrainian company DTEK (R. Akhmetov ) agreed to supply 150000 tons of coal from the United States, supplier HC Trading. Coal will be delivered in two runs - in December 2021 and January 2022.

[tralflot1832]

Everything has come together, the Ashkelon oil company is engaged in the liquefaction of petroleum gases.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: cat Rusich

Poland buys coal from Russia (about 13 million tons), but I think it will gladly resell (with a surcharge) a certain amount to Ukraine

Yeah. 12,5

[Finches]

You will want to live (in warmth) and you will not be so hot! One banana republic helped another banana republic

[Cananecat]

Quote: Finches

One banana republic helped another banana republic

Negroes do not abandon their

[Finches]

I wonder when the agreement was signed by the Ukrainians climbed on the palm tree or the niggas went down? The last thing, it's unlikely!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Canecat

Negroes do not abandon their

But they won't sell it cheap either.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Canecat

Negroes do not abandon their

Well, sho a little darkish. But not m-li.

[Silver bullet]

Nigeria shipped LPG gas to the banana republic. But instead of money, which is not there Vitrenko, shouted to the blacks in his pants SUGS.

[tralflot1832]

Israel is not Nigeria. Israeli gas! Do not compare Israelis with blacks. Kidnyak ukrov with Israel will not work.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

Israel is not Nigeria. Israeli gas! Do not compare Israelis with blacks. Kidnyak ukrov with Israel will not work.

Yes, and the Nigerians are also not bastard, with them kidnyak will not slip through.

[tralflot1832]

I just don't understand why the author dragged the Nigerians if the supplier is Israel. Nigeria is funnier.

[210ox]

No need to offend Nigeria. One of the relatively developed countries in Africa. They also supply hydrocarbons. And these diggers of the seas are only fart gas.

[Finches]

You're right! For 30 years Ukraine has gone a long evolutionary path: from the second France (and without sarcasm, in 1990 it could give odds to more than half of Europe in its industrial potential) to construction. corvettes in Turkey and the purchase of gas in Nigeria .... Even fat is already being imported from Poland!

[Kittymoore]

You are already tired of your "second France". Nobody needed Ukrainian industry.
The Russians also did not become a second America, despite a bunch of factories.

[Finches]

And what do we have to do with it, is it Kuchma? And even before Kuchma, the Ukrainians had already worked the whole world, and after all, nothing has changed! Even the roads in Kiev are much better than in New York, Zelenskiy said ...

[Kittymoore]

Well, why repeat other people's nonsense?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

They also supply hydrocarbons.

And even a lot, they are one of the largest suppliers in Africa.

[tralflot1832]

Everything is much more interesting, Israel is a supplier.

[Roman1970_1]

Where does the information come from?

[tralflot1832]

Marine traffic, and the Ukrainians themselves recognize the supplies from Ashkelon. By the way, this is the second in a month and the ship is the same.

[210ox]

Provider??!! A! Geshef (reseller).

[tralflot1832]

The Ashkelon oil cantor has an ancient history. They created it 50/50 with the Shah of Iran, and they have the technology of liquefying petroleum gases.

[Alex X]

Everything is strictly the opposite. The two rich banana republics helped the poor Swiss bankers. The deal was through Vitol.

[Kayala]

I will frostbite my ears to my grandmother, this is purely Ukrainian. Crazy, what can you take from the poor?

[Brturin]

Quote: Artemion3

Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

Summer is red ... they didn't have time to look back ...

According to the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine, as of September 16, instead of 1,5 million tons of gas coal, there were 600 thousand tons at TPPs, and instead of 552 thousand tons of anthracite - 215 thousand tons. At the same time, the stocks in the warehouses of the three stations of the state-owned company "Centrenergo" were below the minimum required and they should have been enough to work for 4-14 days. If there is a shortage of coal, some of the thermal power plant units can be converted to gas. However, its price on the Ukrainian energy exchange is already reaching UAH 25 thousand per thousand cubic meters (more than $ 900 per thousand cubic meters)
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/09/24/ukraina-planiruet-prodlit-zapret-na-import-elektroenergii-iz-rossii-do-zimy

the question is, what will be electricity for the consumer when converting to gas ...
and they bought coal in the states

DTEK has agreed on the supply of 2 batches of thermal coal from the United States with a total volume of 150 thousand tons. The American HC Trading (Heidelberg Cement Group) will act as a supplier ... In addition, in August 2021, DTEK began importing coal from Kazakhstan and Poland. https://neftegaz.ru/news/coal/697475-ukraina-soglasovala-postavku-uglya-iz-ssha/

[tralflot1832]

Gazik was delivered to Ukraine from Israel, dug on Marinetrafik, and the Ukrainians themselves confirm this. For the second time in a month. Port of Ashkelon, port of Odessa, part of the cargo is unloaded in Turkey. The steamer is only 10 thousand.

[north 2]

[quote = Artemion3] Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss. [/ quot
They can also come from Australia. After all, Australia is closer to Ukraine than Donbass ... Which got its name, like the coal basin of Donetsk and there is so much coal that just carry and carry ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Artemion3

Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

Someone cooked well on charcoal.

[alexey alexeyev_4]

What an Australian he is. They will be loaded in Novorossiysk and pushed at the price of the Australian one. Just like the Pennsylvanian. Loch is not a mammoth. Though sometimes people think that the outskirts are a dead-end branch of human development.

[Cheerock]

Quote: alexey alexeyev_4

What an Australian he is. They will be loaded in Novorossiysk and pushed at the price of the Australian one. Just like the Pennsylvanian. Loch is not a mammoth. Though sometimes people think that the outskirts are a dead-end branch of human development.

Some tried to do this, but were caught and roughly punished. We have a ban on the export of thermal coal to Ukraine.

[Cheerock]

Australia is the largest exporter and supplier of coal, which is strange. Submarines again

[isv000]

Quote: Artemion3

Coal from Australia ... I'm at a loss.

No bewilderment: a steamer flying the flag of Australia arrives at the port of Kavkaz, bunkers with coal from the LPNR and goes to unload to theft ...

[Incvizitor]

The rich have their own quirks.

[knn54]

Manufacturer-Escravos GTL -. The plant converts natural gas into liquid petroleum products and is located not far from the capital, in the Niger Delta.
GTL is a gas to liquids project
Escravos -Slaves, from Portuguese.
“We are not slaves, we are not slaves” ...?
We are waiting for something intelligible ??) from Vitrenko. The cost of LNG is lower than the cost of domestic gas. For the very name of the Nigerian company does not clearly indicate the presence of "freedom molecules" in the gas ...

[Pavel episkop]

This is Ukraine's trolling ... Ukraine is a European Somalia

[Luminman]

Do not slander them! Ukraine - tse Europe!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Luminman

Do not slander them! Ukraine - tse Europe!

Only now Europe does not know about it.

[svoit]

It is unlikely that Russia will reduce transit earlier than 2024, this is not very profitable, the sale of the national property by Gazprom only slightly covers its greedy appetites, the gas price needs to be at least doubled

[Shkworen]

until 2024, transit will be according to the contract, but after that, whether there will be a new contract is a very controversial issue, in addition, Ukraine's overseas and European partners gave it a guarantee of maintaining transit until 2024, but not after :)

[Denis812]

European partners cannot give any guarantees. For gas transit through Ukraine is the business of Gazprom and the GTS.
There are no euro partners in the scheme

[TermNachTer]

This is certainly interesting, and sometimes even heartwarming))) but. I would like to hear - how many mattress money per thousand cubic meters?

[Brturin]

Quote: TermNachTER

how many mattress money per thousand cubic meters?

The question is that the vessel is filled with LPG (propane-butane, which is used to fill the cylinders), and LNG is methane ... there are different prices and volumes ...

[TermNachTer]

In Banderland, cylinders for domestic needs are refueled at gas stations, so that everything will go to work. The question is the price - the cheaper the better.

[hagen]

Quote: BrTurin

The question is that the vessel is filled with LPG (propane-butane, which is used to fill the cylinders), and LNG is methane ... there are different prices and volumes ...

A very correct observation. LPG and LNG are completely different things, both in terms of properties, and, accordingly, in terms of application. LPG - propane, isobutane and n-butane. Motor fuel and raw materials for gas chemistry (I will not say whether it will be used for the Odessa Port Plant). Liquefies at -50 - 0 degrees. LNG is methane liquefied at a temperature of -160 degrees. This is a completely different equipment for regasification and completely different agreements with Turkey for the passage of the Bosphorus. I remember earlier Ukraine and Romania were going to install regasification units for themselves (Romanians - on the shore, Ukrainians - a regasification vessel, like Lithuania), but they did not succeed, because they did not agree with the Turks. So the voiced calculations on LNG in Nigeria smell more like blatant disinformation or bluff. Who else is more profitable ... In addition, it should be borne in mind that, for example, "Independence" - a floating regasification unit as part of the Klaipeda regasification terminal (Lithuania), according to its technical characteristics, when operating all 8760 hours per year, it can regasify only 4 billion cubic meters of gas per year. This is about 40 tankers of the volume of "Christophe Margerie" .... To balance the balance, Ukraine needs a plus of 12-14 billion cubic meters to its own production. So this floating regasifier will not save Ukraine, and the Turks will not agree to 40 LNG carriers through Istanbul. In addition to Russia, no one is able to save them (Ukrainians) .... But Ukraine is doing everything to ensure that Russia has minimal motivation for this. Greetings to them from Lavrov

[antivirus]

it is necessary to buy the outskirts in parts for gas ... for oil ... for the sun ...

for peace ... a quiet life

[hagen]

Quote: antivirus

you have to buy the outskirts in parts

Why do you need it? Lacking your own problems? Even in Crimea, which is already 8 years in Russia, the Ukrainian "hardening" of both the population and the administrative apparatus is very much felt. Population
in the territory controlled by Kiev, it will be an order of magnitude more difficult with a multiple increase in volume. Given the state of the fixed assets that are there today, even the LPNR will sink our economy very sensitively for all of us. And you probably mean not only the LPNR?

[zadorin1974]

So I was very surprised that the Turks gave the go-ahead for the passage of the gas carrier through the Bosphorus. They shaved the UDG for about XNUMX years. a gas carrier (however, taking into account the number of "well-wishers" among the Turks, it is really possible to "lose" half of Istanbul on occasion. Everything after the visit will become clear - who is thicker and harder.

[hagen]

Quote: zadorin1974

So I was very surprised that the Turks gave the go-ahead for the passage of the gas carrier through the Bosphorus.

If the sultan gave the go-ahead, Ukraine would celebrate this day as a national holiday. We should have heard, that's for sure ... I tend to think that this is a bluff. Moreover, you have to buy or rent a ship. Lithuania would be glad to raft its Independ ukram

[zadorin1974]

Well, at the expense of Lithuania, soon. The nine-year contract should already end. But the gas carrier under unloading is most likely a fact that is checked at once. So the question is like an attempt to push or a resolved action. The impression is that again in Turkish vegetables pesticides will be found.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: zadorin1974

So I was very surprised that the Turks gave the go-ahead for the passage of the gas carrier through the Bosphorus.

How could this surprise you? According to the Montreux convention:

Montreux Convention keeps merchant ships of all countries free of passage through the straits both in peacetime and in wartime.

Quote: zadorin1974

Looks like the Sultan with BB to wrestle a little in Syria still really wants to.

God did not give horns to the thirsty cow ... Here the question is not about Erdogan's desire to butt, but about the desire of VVP to break off his horns ... You can even file it off a little ...
==========
Bet on Erdogan? For what? You can find more flexible trading partners. I didn't really want to.

In 2020, trade between Russia and Turkey amounted to USD 20, a decrease of 841% (USD 267) compared to 450.

In Turkish imports, goods are the basis for which it is easy to find a replacement or start your own production. But you can't sneak crap like that. There is no need to test Russian patience ...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

How could this surprise you? According to the Montreux convention:

"..... According to the representative of Turkey, the main reason for the ban on the passage of LNG tankers through the" Istanbul Strait "is the security threat to the densely populated Istanbul.
"The passage of LNG tankers through the Bosphorus is a problematic issue. First of all, we are talking about safety in an already loaded and narrow strait. Istanbul is a densely populated city, and LNG tankers are much larger than oil. In case of accidents that have already happened with oil tankers, the consequences for Istanbul and its population will be destructive ", - said the Turkish Ambassador to Ukraine, noting that" any other neighbor of Turkey in the Black Sea would also be refused "....." (20:52 20.03.2015/21/06 (updated: 20.03.2015: XNUMX XNUMX) RIA Novosti)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

... According to the representative of Turkey, the main reason for the ban on the passage of LNG tankers through the "Istanbul Strait" is the threat to security for densely populated Istanbul.

Thank you for reminding me about this option. Although, I latently guessed about it - that is why the passage through the Bosphorus for some ships is prohibited at all.

[PATHhuK]

Perhaps some people will soon be "combed" in Idlib to wipe the "headlights" for those who are slightly fogged up from self-aggrandizement)))

[tralflot1832]

You are right this is a bluff in the article, gas from Israeli Ashkelon.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: BrTurin

The question is that the vessel is filled with LPG (propane-butane, which is used to fill the cylinders)

By-product gas from the distillation of oil (what is it) and produce it at the Buni terminal, and the prices of the Nigerians keep normal,

[tralflot1832]

To cheer up, the gas carrier-regasifier Marshal Vasilevsky, the one that should stand near Kaliningrad in case of a fire incident, took the first cargo from Yamal LNG of 146 thousand tons and ran to save freezing Europe, but not her, but freezing India, through the NSR.

[hagen]

Quote: tralflot1832

Gas carrier-regasifier Marshal Vasilevsky, ...., accepted the first cargo from Yamal LNG 146 thousand tons

Not as a reproach, just to be correct - Marshal's deadweight is 93 tons. You are obviously mistaken and you need to indicate cubic meters instead of tons. The vessel's capacity is 292 cubic meters.
I see nothing surprising. Today, all LNG floats past Europe to where the pay is higher. Europe is being reconnected, and the next pipe will connect the western direction of Transgaz with the eastern one, and what will not go to Europe in 3 energy packages will go to China.

[Firelake]

Who cares about a completely different country or some are still in the illusion of "fraternal peoples"?

[zwlad]

It is a pity that the population is suffering because of the clowns in power.

[Firelake]

The people deserve the power they have

[Kayala]

Exactly, it was they who rode with cries of "hta do not jump, that Muscovite", but to defend the Berkut, that no one, except the Crimean and Donetsk people stood up. So they have exactly what they deserve.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

I doubt that the people of Ukraine have power. On the contrary, the people have power. And, it seems, to the delight of the people.

[Firelake]

Which confirms the statement of Count Joseph de Maistre, who in turn remade Montesquieu)

[rocket757]

So the gas equipment is designed for a certain type of gas, that everyone will redo their boilers, for example ???

[Xlor]

everyone will remodel their boilers, for example ???

They will invite specialists from Nigeria, they will help to remake ...

[rocket757]

Yes, yes, and then when they switch to the methane mix, call the Nigerians again ??? How much will such experiments cost, question ???
However, you can poke the equipment yourself, here and there ...

[PATHhuK]

how much dough you can master, just some kind of holiday

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

So the gas equipment is designed for a certain type of gas, that everyone will redo their boilers, for example ???

I think this gas will not reach the boilers. This liquefied petroleum gas from Nigeria was brought to Ukraine by Ukrtatnafta, the operator of the Kremenchug refinery. The gas will go to the refinery. That APG has traditional raw materials that it used to buy from us and Belarusians.

[rocket757]

So this is also a peremog, the refinery will not be idle ...

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

So this is also a peremog, the refinery will not be idle ...

He never stood idle. Ukrainians continue to break contracts with our producers. Which, in general, is predictable. As for the overhaul, I don't think that the increased delivery leverage will one way or another fall into the price of the cargo. We shipped them from Novorossiysk ...

[Azis]

Just don't tell them that there are Russians among Vitol shareholders and Gas Honor crew ...

[tralflot1832]

Vitol Holland Switzerland, the largest oil trader in the world But we need to see who the shareholder is. In 2021, Rosneft bought a 5% stake in the Vostok Oil project from Rosneft. Are you talking about sanctions?

[Xlor]

The Skakuas are on the right track! Students will soon be sent to Nigerian universities to study!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

In their institute of culture for exchange: exchange the hopak for local dances.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Xlor

The Skakuas are on the right track! Students will soon be sent to Nigerian universities to study!

Rather migrant workers from Ukraine will go to Nigeria.
By the way ...
Banana palms in Nigeria grow in private gardens of foreigners, like our apples and pears, at a market price of $ 0,3-1,5.

[Well done]

Let them get used to it ...

[Luminman]

You need to jump for sugrev!

[stayer]

At the same time, the largest supplier of LPG. Its share in the total number of deliveries was more than half.

Article stub? You would at least add who and what supplies. And yet, LPG and LNG are different substances, gases. With different prices and production methods. It is not necessary to lump everything in one heap.

[Momento]

the gases are different, but the conversion of equipment is very easy. for example, if there are isolated consumers. another thing is that you won't give it to the network, but how can you do it?

[north 2]

It's so good that this Africa is next to Ukraine ... Right around the corner here, the first turn and already Africa ... This is about the transportation costs of liquefied gas from Nigeria to Ukraine. And if you take into account that one unit of liquefied gas consumer requires more than natural gas supplied by the pipeline, then you don't have to be a great mathematician to exclaim only ... oogo!
However, it is somehow unintelligent to count other people's money, even if someone out there froze their ears to harm someone ... Pay for health ...

[Momento]

in general, the transportation costs for LNG are not much higher than the costs of supporting the pipeline. Gazprom realized this a couple of years ago and is successfully selling LNG in Asia.

[gorgo]

Transport can and yes. But the cost of the liquefaction and liquefaction plant, the technology itself is very complex and expensive. In Russia, the first methane liquefaction unit appeared quite recently. Previously, such technologies were not even in the scoop (including and there was no point, but still).

[ccsr]

Now they decided to stake in Ukraine on LNG from Nigeria. Africa will help.

Well, finally, their real brothers came to their aid ...

[Xlor]

Finally, their real brothers came to their aid.

Well, yes. Fraternal Nigeria has rendered fraternal assistance to the Independent Bone Coast ...

[old_pferd]

So I don’t understand the logic of the Turks - tankers with LPG pass through the Bosphorus, with LNG - no, they say it’s unsafe ... but what the hell is the difference.

[Shkworen]

5000 tons is a small volume, so they probably missed it, and Naftogaz persuaded the Turks to let the tanker pass :)
The Turks would hardly let a serious LNG carrier :)

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Well, fine! Now Nigerians and Ukrainians are brothers!

[In passing]

Have you sung the anthem? Hand on your heart?

[Luminman]

Have you sung the anthem? Hand on your heart?

No, just rode

[agoran]

We look carefully.
Gas was extracted, supplied through the GTS, even when the pumping stations were taken into account.
Gas produced, liquefaction (consumption for work - Gas liquefaction is a complex process that includes many compressions and expansions of gas to achieve high pressure and low temperatures, using, for example, expanders.)
Then the lease of gas carriers, there is a lot of everything
In short, the Sumerians were again bred as suckers.

[AML]

Quote: Kalashnikov

Today is the birthday of the designer of the Kalashnikov assault rifle, the outstanding German weapons designer Hugo Max, Richard Schmeisser!

Once I read that if you put a conditionally immortal monkey at a computer, then sooner or later it will print "War and Peace". People, don't be cruel to animals. Let them go. Let them run through their mountains, climb the palm trees, and freely eat bananas.

[Private SA]

Quote: Alexander 3

You can't understand mad people. You have to be the same to understand.

So among the inhabitants of the zhovto-blakitny (in the USSR, these institutions were called the yellow house)
had their own "specializations". The paranoid schizophrenics did not understand. They are rumored to be in
different wards were seated.

[agoran]

I have the technical ability to watch ukroTV.
At some forums, the Sumerians laughed that in some urban centers of the Russian Federation there is no centralized supply of gas to the population.
So on ukroTV there was a program like the Sumerians and in the Carpathian region, in the presence of a centralized system, they refuse to consume gas, because it is expensive.
Well, drown with dung, the rogules are no stranger.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Artemion3

I'm at a loss.

So the Turks threatened not to let LNG through the Bosphorus ...

[Roman_vh]

This is not LNG. It's a big red gas can. Well, again, large relative to the standard 50 liter. And if you compare it with an LNG "tanker", then this is a scow. Turks do not let such troughs in the Bosphorus

[Sanichsan]

What's in your pants? mandavos? Well, run to wash!

[alexey alexeyev_4]

As far as I remember, a propane-butane mixture is used when cutting metal. Really, they are going to cut their gas turbine system. God help them

[ab2020]

Oh, those journalists. Mixed in a bunch:
Liquefied petroleum gas (propane-butane) is the one that the cars are fueled with. It is not used for pumping into pipes: it is too expensive for that. It is a product of oil refining.
Liquefied natural gas is a gas (mainly methane). It is obtained by the method of liquefying natural gas at low temperatures. To "import" it, you need special equipment for degasification. It is expensive and there is no such terminal in Ukraine. Yes, and Turkey will not let the gas carrier into the Black Sea.
So the journalist mixed everything together and created a sensation out of nothing.

[svoit]

Quote: Hagen

Except for Russia, no one is able to save them (Ukrainians) ...

You just need to reduce consumption by the same 12-14 billion cubic meters and that's it. in fact, only by a third, just restructuring part of the industry, or even the whole whole, their black soil has not yet been completely sold, it will not be lost.
As in Crimea, it was necessary to abandon rice and other water-demanding crops.

[RoTTor]

I wonder how the country, left without Russian gas, most of the coal mines and planning to ditch the rest, has already destroyed and sold a significant part of the forests to the EU for a pittance, is going to survive?
On imports from the EU at sky-high prices for Russian gas?
On a completely idiotic idea of ​​a country that asked ... the entire sea and river fleet to buy coal "in the distant kingdom, the thirtieth state" - already in South Africa and, of course, from overseas owners in the United States?
In a year or two, they will finally finish off the remnants of railway transport.
How to transport overseas coal from ports?
You definitely won't have to transport coal from Poland ...
see https://www.facebook.com/Transpress_viczel-178637738821455

[dmmyak40]

I don't understand anything: does Turkey allow gas carriers through the Bosphorus? It seems that there has been a ban for a long time?

[Egor53]

Propane-Butane is a non-liquefied natural gas (LNG).

[PATHhuK]

Didn't see the port of departure and delivery time, maybe Friday, or maybe the gas is not from Nigeria?

[Evil 55]

At the same time ... African niggas help European niggas not to bend over from their stupidity ..

[Graz]

so it seems that the Turks do not allow gas carriers through the Bosphorus. How did the liquefied gas end up in the port of Odessa?

[sgr291158]

They are so harmful to Russia.

[Roma 1977]

There is no cross on them. Now the blacks will have gas. They (blacks) are already having a hard time, and then Ukraine is a trading partner.

[gorgo]

This is propane-butane, not LNG. LNG is liquefied natural gas, i.e. methane, and these are completely different things. This African gas, as far as I understand, can only be poured into household cylinders in cars. Neither for the housing and communal services, nor for the industry there is no sense from it.
But in order to purchase LNG, it is also necessary to build a liquefaction plant in order to return it to a gaseous state and run it into a pipe to consumers. And it is worth it, oh, how expensive. So all this is about nothing ... Another zilch.

[sen]

Now they decided to stake in Ukraine on LNG from Nigeria. Africa will help. But the price of this gas, according to experts, can be at least twice the price of the Russian one.
Let us remind you that earlier Ukraine bought a consignment of coal from Africa. But the supply of this fuel from South Africa was of a one-time nature. Coal was also purchased in Australia, and now it has been decided to stake in Ukraine on LNG from Nigeria. Africa will help. But the price of this gas, according to experts, can be at least twice the price of Russian gas.

Probably Ukraine is the richest country, since it makes such transactions.

[iouris]

Nigerian gas doesn't smell.

[Borisych]

Money loves washing. Israeli Jews have been resting for a long time, and local, Ukrainian ones, will not be allowed into Israel.
Even the iron kumpol will not save them from them. Only a saucepan.

[evgen1221]

How long have the Turks been passing gas carriers through the Bosphorus ???

[Metallurg_2]

Anyhow from whom to buy, and anyhow at what price - if only not from the damned Muscovites.

[sifgame]

This is the topic! Finally, complete independence from dirty Russian gas. Another would have refused to transit and complete peremoga.

[mister-red]

Quote: TermNachTER

In Banderland, cylinders for domestic needs are refueled at gas stations, so that everything will go to work. The question is the price - the cheaper the better.

We also have gas stations. Where do they run in Russia?

[Pavel57]

Quote: svoit

Quote: Hagen

Except for Russia, no one is able to save them (Ukrainians) ...

You just need to reduce consumption by the same 12-14 billion cubic meters and that's it. in fact, only by a third, just restructuring part of the industry, or even the whole of it, their black soil has not yet been completely sold, it will not be lost ..

It is also necessary to indicate where the population is to dump.