Experts: Erdogan raised the topic of Crimea at the UN in connection with Putin's words about the illegality of the presence of a number of foreign contingents in Syria

In the Ukrainian media, the number one topic was the statements of the President of Turkey, made during his speech at the UN General Assembly. We are talking about the words of Erdogan about support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine and "non-recognition of the annexation of Crimea."

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, continuing the rhetoric of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, at the 76th session of the UN General Assembly said that Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea.

Turkish President:

For Turkey, the elections held by Russia for three days in Crimea have no legal effect.

These statements by Erdogan are being circulated by the Ukrainian press with particular activity. Ukrainian experts again saw the Turkish president as a “great friend of Ukraine”. Moreover, for the most part, these are the same experts who, a few months ago, said that "Erdogan cannot be trusted, since he is a friend of Putin."

Meanwhile, the Russian expert community is discussing the issue of what agenda the Turkish leader is going to use after the statements from the UN rostrum to visit the Russian Federation. In particular, there are suggestions that Erdogan focused on the Crimea topic in connection with the visit of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to Moscow and in connection with the statements of Vladimir Putin that "the military personnel of a number of foreign states are on Syrian territory illegally."

Experts in Turkey believe that this statement by the Russian president is a prick, including in relation to Ankara.

As you know, today Turkish troops are located practically throughout the north and northwest of the Syrian Arab Republic, in fact, occupying several provinces - without sanction from the UN Security Council and without an invitation from official Damascus. In response to this "prick" Erdogan decided to fend off the "Crimean theme".

Now, as experts suggest, Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan, during the latter's visit to Russia, "will again look for points of contact and opportunities for a compromise in the political sphere."

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[Ryaruav]

and what will he get for it? yes, nothing will happen, Zakharova threatened and all partners are important

[raw174]

Quote: Ryaruav

and what will he get for it? but nothing will happen, Zakharova threatened

What should be? Cut off your hands? Turkey is a NATO member and will not recognize Crimea as Russian until the collective West does. And this will happen only in the event of a total weakening of the position of the United States in the world, and this is not expected, at least in the more or less foreseeable future ... So let him say ...

[Gardamir]

until the collective West does.

In your proposal, there is not a word about the boys entrenched in the Kremlin. Maybe something depends on them?

[raw174]

Quote: Gardamir

your proposal is not a word about the boys entrenched in the Kremlin

I am convinced that power is a reflection of society, or in other words: the people have the kind of government they deserve. As for Crimea, I believe that its annexation is an Achievement (with a capital letter), and non-recognition by the West is a pattern. "Boys" from the Kremlin, as you put it, are holding a blow to Crimea and its non-recognition as a subject of the Russian Federation, although it is a problem, but not a catastrophe.

[Gardamir]

If Crimea was on its own, then I would agree with you about the capital letter. But the shooting in Donbass ...

[Tatyana]

Recep Tayyip Erdogancontinuing the rhetoric of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, at the 76th session of the UN General Assembly said that Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea.
Turkish President:

For Turkey, the elections held by Russia for three days in Crimea have no legal effect.

These statements by Erdogan are being circulated by the Ukrainian press with particular activity. Ukrainian experts again saw the Turkish president as a “great friend of Ukraine”. Moreover, for the most part, these are the same experts who a few months ago said that "Erdogan cannot be trusted, as he is a friend of Putin."

A strange impression is created by Ukrainian "experts" - either absolutely stupid or absolutely opportunistic and corrupt to the West manipulators in relation to the pot-headed inhabitants of Ukraine! Namely.

Ottoman-revanchist Turkey, in an oriental way, cares not so much about Ukraine, but only about her beloved!
And wherein the question for Turkey about the ownership of the Crimea to Ukraine or Russia is for Turkey a purely strategic and practical question in the implementation of the RESTORATION of its Ottoman Empire in the countries on the Black Sea coast.

The entire Turkish focus of Erdogan's speeches and his national-Turkish entourage is that for Turkey - while keeping Crimea for under-Ukraine as a pro-Western limitrophe - it will be much easier to take Crimea from Ukraine as part of Ukraine than to take Crimea, as such, within the Russian Federation, from Russia!

This is what determines the creeping AGGRESSIVE policy of Turkey against Russia!
In this plan Turkey is the enemy of Russia, but Turkey is also a secret potential enemy of Ukraine itself, with which the Russophobic-Nazi Kiev regime of that Zelensky housing estate is bitingly kissing in order to only personally stay in power!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Gardamir

until the collective West does.

In your proposal, there is not a word about the boys entrenched in the Kremlin. Maybe something depends on them?

Well, let's just say that the Kremlin boys also do not recognize the northern part of Cyprus for Ankara, so there is a mutual "fifty = fifty".
Only in contrast to the Turks, in terms of the legality of ownership of Crimea, Russia has a "Kucuk-Kainardzhiyskiy" Russian-Turkish peace treaty of 1774, securing its belonging to Russia and a popular referendum from 2014 on the withdrawal of Crimea from Ukraine with a return to the composition of Russia, while the northern part of Cyprus was actually occupied by Turkish troops without any "problems" with interstate treaties and referendums. As a matter of fact, the recognition or non-recognition by Ankara is not a problem for the status of Crimea as a part of Russia, but it is a subject of political bargaining under which a number of countries are trying to resolve their selfish interests and whip out some buns.

[Overlock]

Quote: Nyrobsky

there is a "Kucuk-Kainardzhiyskiy" Russian-Turkish peace treaty from 1774 year, securing its belonging to Russia

If you read the contract itself, then you will not find confirmation of your words. According to article 3 of the "Kuchuk-Kainardzhiyskiy treaty", Russia did not retain Crimea, but Kerch and the Yenikale fortress. Crimea was recognized by both sides as independent from both empires

This was followed by a series of local wars, intrigues, and only in December 1782 Potemkin turned to Catherine II with a proposal to annex Crimea.
8 (19) April 1783 the empress signed a manifesto "On the acceptance of the Crimean Peninsula, Taman Island and the entire Kuban side under the Russian state."
June 28 (July 9) 1783 the manifesto of Catherine II was promulgated during the solemn oath of the Crimean nobility, which was taken personally by Prince Potemkin on the flat top of the Ak-Kaya rock near Karasubazar. First, the murzas, beys, clergymen swore allegiance, and then the common population.
December 28, 1783 (January 8, 1784) years, Russia and Turkey signed the "Act on Peace, Trade and Borders of both States", which abolished article (article) 3 of the Kuchuk-Kainardzhiyskiy peace treaty on the independence of the Crimean Khanate.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

In your proposal

What, however, is a conscientious form of life: at seven in the morning already at the post and "klats-klats-klats", grants are called.

[Gardamir]

Finally, I waited for self-criticism from you. They looked in the mirror. Well, click on.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: raw174

So let him say ...

Eastern wisdom: "A dog that barks does not bite"

[rocket757]

Quote: Polite Elk

Eastern wisdom: "A dog that barks does not bite"

The world has changed, and the number of mad dogs has grown ... admittedly, mad dogs do not bark, but these are details.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: rocket757

The world has changed

You can't argue with that. But dogs are more conservative (not in the sense of Korean culinary delights). Take, for example, Ukraine, the Baltics, Poland. They bark a lot, but they are unlikely to dare to bite. Another example is Eun. Took and sent Trump with all his AUGs to the source. And now he is quietly improving missile weapons. It would not be worth quarreling with him.

[rocket757]

Quote: Polite Elk

It would not be worth quarreling with him.

It's difficult to be friends with either. Himself with a mustache, his own Juche ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

Eastern wisdom: "A dog that barks does not bite"

Blah blah blah. Crimeans, like all Russians, are neither hot nor cold from his words. Let it continue threshing with its tongue

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

Let it continue threshing with its tongue

As Volfych would say: "Definitely!" My tongue is my enemy. The word is not a sparrow ... And here, it seems, Iran has soaped itself in the SCO ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

My tongue is my enemy. The word is not a sparrow.

Well, they don't know our sayings ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

Well, they don't know our sayings ...

Here I do not quite agree. They should remember the saying "Bullet is a fool, bayonet is good fellow". And even more so for the author.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

Here I do not quite agree. They must remember the saying "Bullet is a fool, a bayonet is a good fellow"

Who are the Americans? So they have never tasted the Russian bayonet

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

Who are the Americans?

Why Americans? Romanians! Speech in the article about their leader.

[Seryoga64]

What are Romanians?

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, continuing the rhetoric of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, at the 76th session of the UN General Assembly said that Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

What are Romanians?

And what kind of Americans?

Quote: Seryoga64

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, continuing the rhetoric of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, at the 76th session of the UN General Assembly said that Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

And what kind of Americans?

Yes, I myself confused the FSE here

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

Yes, I myself confused the FSE here

It happens.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

It happens.

Yes I know
And I haven't drunk for a long time

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Seryoga64

And I haven't drunk for a long time

Maybe it's about time? After all, as you know, the truth is in wine!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Polite Elk

Can't it be time?

Bottom while ((

[22 dmdc]

There was not enough time to bring everything to its logical conclusion, and then it began ...

[isv000]

Quote: 22 dmdc

There was not enough time to bring everything to its logical conclusion, and then it began ...

Yeah ... Were led like bulls on a red rag ... Even Churchill noted with surprise: the ship "Russia" sank at the entrance to the harbor ...

[Pandiurin]

Quote: raw174

Quote: Ryaruav

and what will he get for it? but nothing will happen, Zakharova threatened

What should be? Cut off your hands? Turkey is a NATO member and will not recognize Crimea as Russian until the collective West does. And this will happen only in the event of a total weakening of the position of the United States in the world, and this is not expected, at least in the more or less foreseeable future ... So let him say ...

You can simply not recognize, without loud statements, for example, during a visit to Ukraine, say something about territorial integrity and not mention Crimea, or say something vaguely diplomatic, well, as it were, a visit usually obliges.
And so do not touch on this topic, if possible. Well, like, there was never a visit of Turkish officials to Crimea, they never said that they would recognize Crimea as independent from Ukraine, etc.
Those. non-recognition may consist in the absence of statements that they recognize.

Erdogan climbed onto the UN rostrum not only did he croak that Crimea belongs to Ukraine, he also said the word "annexation". in fact blamed Russia.

The collective position of the West did not demand this from Erdogan, so that he would demonstrate it from the rostrum of the UN.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Well, like, there has never been a visit of Turkish officials to Crimea, [

.... well, yes, for that in Crimea there are a lot of Turkish goods ... if it is sane to count, then if that goods were imported from the continent, then in connection with transport costs, we would have a non-competitive one in Crimea, and so it goes directly along the way to Crimea, and our wealthy Crimeans to Antalya drive without problems

[RomanRS]

maybe for a start not to supply a NATO member with S-400?

[fif21]

You can rename Crimea, or remember Constantinople and not recognize the name "Istanbul". You can keep silent the next time when the mattress toppers are going to do it. Just what will change from this? NOTHING!

[AC130 Gunship]

Raw 174
What does NATO have to do with recognition in general? Almost no one in the world has recognized, be it at least NATO, at least not NATO.
Of course, you can put cons to me, but this does not change the situation absolutely

[Private-K]

In general, Erdogan should just wait it out. He is very ill, can barely walk, he will die soon. Turkey's economy and finances are in dire straits. No matter how it collapsed at all, because Turkey, trying to jump above its head playing an unbearable role for itself, has already beaten off its legs, shook the body to internal bleeding, and, it seems, damaged its head ...
Karoch - just wait, watch and do your job with a smile.

[Mikhail Kazakov]

Heh, what does his statement mean at all? ) It's just "tail wagging" towards the west + a slightly old insult (which, again, doesn't affect anything).
You just need to understand that for Perdogan in his vision - that the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation (on legal grounds through a referendum), that the seizure of northern Syria by pro-Turkish militants is one and the same. Well, Pan Erdogan is still reflecting - that Crimea is really developing in the Russian Federation, but the northern territories of Syria are gradually returning to Syria and "leaving" - and he cannot do ANYTHING about it. That's all.
And so, Turkey will not refuse not from the "tomato" business, not from the gas business, not from the tourist business, or from the purchase of modern weapons in the Russian Federation.

[knn54]

Erdogan bombs the Kurds WITHOUT ANALYSIS, kidnaps "Gulenists" in other countries, buys stolen oil from IS. Thousands of oppositionists are in jail, often without charge.
Part of the lands of Syria and Cyprus are occupied.
And the LAST dictator of Europe for some reason (???) Lukashenka.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: knn54

And the LAST dictator of Europe for some reason (???) Lukashenka.

Apparently, the Turks are not considered Europe.

[hagen]

Quote: Ryaruav

and what will he get for it? yes, nothing will happen, Zakharova threatened and all partners are important

There is a primitive bargaining on the geopolitical level ... Erdogan said that he did not recognize the elections. So what? Will our Duma scatter? Ours mentioned the illegality of their presence in Syria. They didn't run away either ... Nothing happened in the visible part of our relationship. Now a shift in emphasis and priorities in cooperation in other areas will begin. We, as has already happened, can slightly cover the tourist flow for our population ... A reciprocal step ... This is an endless song in our relations. It must be remembered that: 1. Turkey is a country with an oriental mentality and bargaining is the norm for them; 2. We've never been close friends ... Obviously we won't. But the world will not turn upside down from this, everything will continue to go on like this.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Hagen

We have never been close friends ...

We have always been and remain "close" enemies.
All these tomato-tourist stories and "cooperation" in the fight against ISIS have nothing to do with friendship.
Tail wagging in front of the Turks leads to negative results for Russia.

[Vend]

And that the Syrian government invited the Turkish military? The only legal military contingent is Russian. We are there by invitation, the rest are not. And we entered Crimea after a referendum on its accession to Russia. Erdogan should be more careful about the topic, and not talk nonsense.

[isv000]

Quote: Wend

And we entered Crimea after a referendum on its accession to Russia.

They did not enter, they simply increased the number in accordance with the agreement with ukradina.

[kotvov]

Erdogan should be more careful about the topic, and not talk nonsense.
Do not forget to tell him this when you meet. For our greats cannot afford it.

[Vend]

Quote: kotvov

Erdogan should be more careful about the topic, and not talk nonsense.
Do not forget to tell him this when you meet. For our greats cannot afford it.

Well, your greats definitely cannot afford, and the Russian authorities have more than once given a hand and not only to Turkey.

[kotvov]

Yeah, they pounded so hard that the population of the Russian Federation is decreasing. Once again, KAAK will give that there will be no place in the cemeteries.

[dmmyak40]

And before and after such statements, Russian Aerospace Forces planes fly to Syria through Turkish airspace. Strange, isn't it? Do not listen to public statements: their price is zero. Watch the action.

[svp67]

And this is on the eve of his arrival in Sochi for a meeting with Putin ... It will be an interesting meeting. Moreover, Turkey itself has a lot of "shaky" positions in the Kurdish, Cypriot, Syrian, Libyan issues ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

We will not learn anything about these "interests" ...
At the joint briefing, "honesty" and "fruitfulness" will sound sore, and Peskov, later, will smear the topic with such a thin layer that the essence will not be clear ...

[Catfish]

and Peskov, later, will smear the subject with such a thin layer,

What to do, he has such a "job".

[smart ass]

It's just that the Kurds need to send t72 from storage and all kinds of supplies

[Stas157]

Quote: Clever man

Simple Kurds need to send t72 from storage and all sorts of supplies

Rather, Erdogan will throw drones on the Ukrainians.

[PN]

Send tanks to the Kurds? It's like throwing it away. Without air cover, the Turks will shoot them with their UAVs as targets in the shooting range ...

[faiver]

then maybe the S-125?

[smart ass]

Then recognize the independence of the Kurds)) here Erdogan will be surprised !!!

[Alex777]

Quote: Clever man

Then recognize the independence of the Kurds)) here Erdogan will be surprised !!!

Not only Erdogan will be surprised.

[Captain Pushkin]

We ourselves have a lot of "shaky" positions in the Kurdish, Syrian, Libyan issues ... But in Cyprus, we have no real levers of influence.
Nevertheless, it may be time to start "shaking" the Turks on the Kurdish issue in earnest.

[Murmur 55]

And what? For a modern politician, this is normal, Erdogan said about the Crimea and still goes to Moscow and not vice versa, Merkel also "drowned" for the Ukrainian "dream" and the gas pipeline was being built. Saying and doing different things.

[Flooding]

Quote: Murmur 55

This is normal for a modern politician.

politics consists of 90% of conversations and only 20% of deeds

[isv000]

Quote: Flood

politics consists of 90% of conversations and only 20% of deeds

Where does the extra 10% come from? Reduce the sturgeon!

[Flooding]

Quote: isv000

Where does the extra 10% come from? Reduce the sturgeon!

extra 10% of politicians ascribe to themselves
words cannot be thrown out of the song

[Uran53]

The sultan makes not only curtsies in the direction of Ukraine, but also the frigate. Money is at stake, which means that it is not profitable to quarrel with Ukraine (suddenly they will order more). And the visit to Moscow will take place in a warm, friendly atmosphere with a light-faced one, they will eat ice cream together, and you will see that they will throw some more buns.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Building a frigate like for Ukraine does not mean that the Ukrainians will get it. The Sultan has his own interest in the Crimea - but not for the Ukrainians.

[Uran53]

The main thing is that the buyer would pay the money. Or should he be carrying out an operation right now to free the Crimean Tatars from the oppression of the Russians?

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Exactly - I got the money ... And where did the ukroshumers get the lave from?

[Uran53]

If the Ukrainians made an order, it means that financing was laid under it. Such projects are not done on parole.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

It seems that it’s not a vyunosh already - but you all believe in fairy tales. The very fact of the construction of the ship was voiced by ukro-sumery. I emphasize - only imi. And in the city of Kiev there are very big dreamers. To lie to them is what to breathe.

[novel66]

corvette. seems to be

[parusnik]

During his visit to Russia, Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan "will again look for common ground and opportunities for compromise in the political sphere."

.. I have no luck with the points of contact, they are always lost, and then they search.

[Grandfather]

Turks are enemies, old and reliable.

[Alex777]

Quote: Dead Day

Turks are enemies, old and reliable.

With your optimism, so about everyone, neighbors and not only, one might say.
And our leadership, nevertheless, resolves issues with them.
Even with the Saudis and Qatar.
In the hopeless so far, only Britain walks.
Czechs are in line for this nomination.

[isv000]

Quote: Alex777

And our leadership, nevertheless, resolves issues with them.

To live with wolves - howl like a wolf ...

[Alex777]

Something like that.

[samarin1969]

Experts of this "novosti" seriously believe that Erdogan is "more friendly" than Zelensky ??? .... The NATO country, a centuries-old principled enemy of Russia, provides effective military-technical assistance to the Russophobic regime. Turkish forces have quite realistically attacked the Russian contingent in Syria more than once.
It is the Gazprom shareholders who should try to convince the believers in the "property of Russia" that it is a "wise", "profitable" step to transfer the pipes from Ukraine into Erdogan's hands.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: samarin1969

It is Gazprom's shareholders who should try to convince the believers in the "property of Russia" that it is a "wise", "profitable" step to transfer the pipes from Ukraine into Erdogan's hands.

This step was FORCED when the Bulgarians blocked South Stream ... The lesser of two evils. And the Turks regularly pay for gas. And not only for gas. Syria is a long-standing province of the Turkish Empire. The Sultan is trying to restore it. Russia interferes, and strongly. So the Sultan is speaking across the Crimea! And supplies Ukraine with weapons. Enemy? Undoubtedly. But understandable and predictable ...
By the way, you and I can also become shareholders of Gazprom. Shares are sold in private hands. It's only too late to buy. They have risen in price from 230 to 330 rubles / piece in six months! And they promise good dividends.

[Stepan S]

that putting the pipes from Ukraine into Erdogan's hands is something "wise", "profitable" step.

Now the situation is such that blocking the pipe, in the event of some negative events, is much more dangerous for the side that receives gas through this pipe, and not for the supplying one. They are removing transit from Ukraine, and they howled, sobbing. So the presence of the pipe matters.

[Alex777]

Quote: Stepan S

So the presence of the pipe matters.

As well as the availability of supplies and transit through the pipe.

[Jacket in stock]

Ukrainian experts again saw the Turkish president as a “great friend of Ukraine”.

And what does Ukraine have to do with it?
Erdogan said something about Crimea - is it Ukraine?
No.
He believes that Crimea should be Turkish. He himself has not said this yet, but the smaller guys have not been shy for a long time.
So they trade with Ukraine, but they keep a fig in their pockets. However, as with us.
The main thing is that our commanders do not forget about it.

[lwxx]

Erdogan said something about Crimea - is it Ukraine?

"We consider it important to preserve the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, including the territory of Crimea, the annexation of which we do not recognize. Reghep Tayyip Erdogan." He also added about the Tatars: "The Turkish leader also pointed out the need to make more efforts to protect the rights of the Crimean Tatars."

[riwas]

Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea.

I understand that the straits, the Turkish stream, etc., but Turkey has never been a friend and never will be. Therefore, our command should always have Plan B ready for Turkey.

[Grandfather]

Quote: riwas

Therefore, our command should always have Plan B ready for Turkey.

tomatoes...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Dead Day

tomatoes...

... thermonuclear.

[Gardamir]

Turkey has never been a friend and never will be.

And who is talking about friends. She's a partner and money doesn't stink

[tralflot1832]

Didn't money stink to you under the USSR when Zhiguli was delivered to Chile, in the era of Pope Pino, 1978,1982, 1988 and XNUMX?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: tralflot1832

tralflot1832
Today, 07: 28

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Money didn’t stink for you in the USSR when Lada was delivered to Chile, in the era of Pope Pino

Did you stink?
You "felt such dislike, you couldn't eat" (c)?
On Earth, every minute someone kills someone, you are probably in eternal mourning?

[tralflot1832]

At that time I was destroying horse mackerel in front of the Chilean zone. And in 1991 we entered Valparaiso, and there is such beauty on the roads !!! But what about the bright ideals of communism?

[Gardamir]

And as always, the choice of either Viktor Khara's songs, or beauty on the roads. By the way, do you know why there are problems with road beauty in Russia?

[tralflot1832]

There are no problems in Sochi, in Murmansk the bypass was modernized, two-level interchanges were made, beauty. And about the beauty on Chilean roads in 1991, I mentioned 80% of the taxis were Lada 5 and 7 models.

[Gardamir]

But now there are only foreign cars on the roads of Russia

[tralflot1832]

Why not! My last Soviet car was bought in 1989. In Sochi, Niva is still held in high esteem. Especially for a week, in winter.

[Polite Moose]

Ukraine is now worn with the purchase of Turkish UAVs. It would be foolish for the Sultan to break the outlined gesheft with pro-Russian statements. He did not recognize the elections in Crimea. So what? Now to hold re-elections? Many people do not recognize the fact that the Earth is round. But this is for the time being (Erdogan also concerns).

[Egoza]

Quote: Polite Elk

He did not recognize the elections in Crimea. So what? Now to hold re-elections?

A purely oriental trick! he did not recognize the elections in Crimea, but he did recognize the elections in the Russian Federation in general, unlike other beggars who do not recognize these elections in general.

[Never mind]

It's not about recognition, here the question is deeper and wider because our powers that be turned a blind eye to a lot they did a lot for Turkey and Erdogan wants more and more.

[askort154]

Turkey has a "trump ace" against Russia - the Bosphorus. Erdogan is playing with Russia, holding him in an arrogant, revealing manner. Shoots down an airplane and a helicopter, kills the ambassador, climbed into Syria, Azeybarjan and Ukraine. With every step he is increasing his impudence, and is already openly "running into" Russia from the UN rostrum.

[Gardamir]

and already openly "runs into" Russia

So what. You know the Kremlin has a cunning plan.

[askort154]

Gardamir ....So what. You know the Kremlin has a cunning plan.

One is already in action - "joint patrols", thanks to which Erdogan climbed into Syria, crushed the entire border zone under him, drove out the Kurds, openly supports the militants. And "joint patrols" have already fizzled out.

[S. Nikolaev]

It is unwise to rely on the Kremlin's plan. Gardamir must offer his before it's too late.

[Gardamir]

A few years ago I suggested here, but the then editor did not find enough punctuation marks. In my plan, this is not a literary work.

[edmed]

"Friend Erjep" once again jabbed his knife down the back, but we will steadfastly keep the "poker face", because he is our "friend".

[Primipilus]

In response, it does not recognize the territorial integrity of Turkey, and indeed any country does not recognize the territorial integrity of Russia.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Primipilus

In response, do not recognize the territorial integrity of Turkey,

It will be more painful to recognize territorial integrity, but with an autonomous territory of compact residence of Kurds.

[Keer]

"They won't get off with tomatoes!" The grandmaster will figure out how to wipe himself off more dexterously.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

The usual struggle for the client and the loot! To fill the price, to bargain, gossip about competitors! In the bardel it is always the same as in politics!

[Ros 56]

I think the Turks in northern Syria face difficulties, with our tourists and with the supply of agricultural products to us.

[north 2]

Putin took Crimea away not only from under the nose of the American dream, so that the American fleet would stand in Sevastopol instead of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia expelled from there by Ukraine. Crimea, Putin took away from under the nose of Turkey. Yes, I'm not talking about the nose of Ukraine And it is still unknown whose nose after that more snot ran out-America, Ukraine or Turkey. Perhaps Turkey.
No, well, you can imagine how America watched and reconnoitred Crimea during America's organized coup d'etat in Kiev. The intelligence of America then guarded the Crimea, watched and reconnoitred from space and on the ground and on the water and from under the water. And only bam ... and during the night in the Crimea, 25000 green little men of Putin, with weapons, equipment and ammunition, although not a single Russian soldier or sailor left the deployment of their units and ships from Russian bases in Crimea!
How should Erdogan feel after that, who hoped for the omnipotence of America's intelligence services? So Erdogan's nose is still suffering from the Crimean disease with snot.
By the way, the first to be thrown by America was not today France and not yesterday Afghanistan, but the day before yesterday America was thrown by Turkey because of the Crimea ...

[rocket757]

Quote: north 2

Putin took Crimea away

Crimea returned GDP !, People, residents of Crimea themselves participated in it ...
That's it, the question is CLOSED!
All the dissatisfied go through the forest ... especially the dissatisfied, even further.

[north 2]

Putin returned Crimea, taking it away from under the noses of America, Turkey and Ukraine. Are you satisfied with such a formulation of the diagnosis, from which America, Ukraine and Turkey blew out snot?

[rocket757]

The time is such that many who have to think and then say ... do not want to bother about the first!
So the words-sparrows fly here and there ... the people / the public excite. Not all, of course, but especially impressionable ones gush with thoughts / ideas and other different things.

[isv000]

Quote: north 2

How should Erdogan feel after that, who hoped for the omnipotence of America's intelligence services?

Edik owes Allah to constantly praying for our intelligence, which warned him about the impending coup ...

[faiver]

And who else cares about what they say in the UN? This is a tribune and nothing more

[askort154]

aiver And who else cares about what they say in the UN? This is a tribune and nothing more

After the collapse of the USSR, the UN tribune became exclusively a tribune for the United States.
Soon we will be eyewitnesses of "thunder and lightning" there in the direction of Russia.
All Russophobic shobla, will get out on the podium. Putin did the right thing by refusing to go to this show.

[taiga2018]

Such statements on the eve of a visit to Russia is an outright spit ... Our government will wipe out, or at least close Turkey for our tourists, and Russia for Turkish tomatoes ...

[rocket757]

Quote: taiga2018

Turkey for our tourists, and Russia for Turkish tomatoes ...

And sho we all bring down the power ??? And ourselves ... we didn’t go to Turkey, looking for all sorts of cheap "buns", we will stop buying Turkish tomatoes ourselves!?!?!?
That's why the Yankees can be respected ... when they wanted to punish Japan, almost all of America stopped eating Japanese tuna !!! That was COOL ... a beautiful fairy tale, but there is a particle of truth in it!

[teptyar]

Vooot! Truth. Nobody will refuse from inexpensive tours to Turkey.

[rocket757]

Quote: Teptyar

Nobody will refuse from inexpensive tours to Turkey.

Great ... we ourselves do not want to give up the advantageous, but then what are we expecting from the top ones ??? There, besides politics, there are not frail such intErEs, all sorts of different ...
In general, there is a lot of empty chatter around and the same claims!
I suggest everyone, go to the mirror and take a good look ... you will see a lot of unexpected, and even unpleasant!

[teptyar]

I strongly agree with you!

[S. Nikolaev]

"I suggest, go to the mirror and take a good look ... you will see a lot of unexpected, and even unpleasant!"
A very, very inhuman initiative. Antihuman, I would even say.

[rocket757]

And how often does it happen in life?
Sweet / pleasant, in the end very harmful ...
Bitter / disgusting, but brings a lot more benefits ...
A simple, like a choice, but not always making it right.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: taiga2018

Such statements on the eve of a visit to Russia is an outright spit ... Our government will wipe out, or at least close Turkey for our tourists, and Russia for Turkish tomatoes ...

The tourist season in Turkey is almost over ... so the Sultan has grown bolder ... but winter is ahead, and is the preventive maintenance on the gas pipeline unscheduled? There is also a nuclear power plant under construction, a serious increase in the Turkish power grids. But the fuel there is Russian !!! Turks as economic partners are not bad at all. They are disciplined and solvent. And what about politics? Well, politics is dirty business ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But the fuel there is Russian !!!

With fuel, not everything is unambiguous, although it is NOT EVERYONE'S RISK to experiment to run into not frail problems, then, or even immediately!

[isv000]

Quote: taiga2018

Such statements on the eve of a visit to Russia is an outright spit ... Our government will wipe out, or at least close Turkey for our tourists, and Russia for Turkish tomatoes ...

Azeri tomatoes will be lucky - it's not the first time to wave the Turks. And our tourst is generally uncontrollable: a covid is not a covid, even though cholera will still travel, even through third countries. I'm just silent for patriotism ...

[rocket757]

We are talking about Erdogan's words about support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine and "non-recognition of the annexation of Crimea."

Send naf, if you don't understand, insert PISTON! You can do it in the reverse order, or even all at once, there will be more benefits ...

[cniza]

Good time!

Erdogan's wings grew after Karabakh ...

[rocket757]

Hi
So he is such a lively one ... sometimes we pluck out the feathers for him, and he is like a sparrow ... he got up, he grew new ones and got involved in a new batch / squabble!
This cannot be taken away from him, tenacious.

[cniza]

Yes, he knows how to turn everything in his favor, but sooner or later it may turn out to be the other side ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

knows how to turn everything in his favor

On the bill, everything is for the good, it's unlikely ... although you can trumpet the whole world, about your next victory !!! those who are supposed to know and put on the shelves where he has and how.

[cniza]

She is always on the brink of politics, and he is a seasoned politician ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

he is a seasoned politician ...

Arrogant, greedy, insidious and so on, like that ... all in one glass.

[cniza]

Peskov has already reminded him that he will soon fly to Moscow ...

[rocket757]

I don’t want to list WHAT IS TO REMEMBER to that figure.
I don’t want to repeat it.
There are, after all, intereses, different and a lot.

[cniza]

Undoubtedly, but the sediment has a place to be ...

[22 dmdc]

Has the Russian Federation recognized the genocide of the Armenian people?

[cniza]

Admitted:

The resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire during the First World War was approved on March 4 by an international committee of the US House of Representatives.

Uruguay was the first to officially recognize and condemn the Armenian genocide. On April 20, 1965, the General Assembly of the Senate of Uruguay and the House of Representatives adopted the law "On the Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Armenian Genocide".

According to international law, the extermination of Armenians was officially recognized as genocide and condemned:

Russia. On April 14, 1995, the State Duma adopted a statement condemning the organizers of the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1922 and declaring April 24 to be the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Armenian Genocide.

[rocket757]

Russia. On April 14, 1995, the State Duma adopted a statement condemning the organizers of the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1922 and declaring April 24 to be the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Armenian Genocide.

This, in addition to saving and protecting, for a long time ...

[isv000]

Quote: rocket757

Send naf, if you don't understand, insert PISTON! You can do it in the reverse order, or even all at once, there will be more benefits ...

You can make everything easier and according to the law: roll out into dust the pro-Turkish bandit formations in Idlib. Do you think he just got pissed off? The day before our falcons hunted successfully ...

[rocket757]

They will squeeze out the "barmaley" from there, in the end, as soon as it becomes dear to the Sultan ... he is cunning, he knows how to count.

[rotmistr60]

For Turkey, the elections held by Russia for three days in Crimea have no legal effect.

The fact that Erdogan is not any "partner" of Russia and, if the opportunity arises, will stick a knife in the back is probably already clear to everyone, but diplomatic politics does not allow to say this directly. But in vain. "Yesterday" shot down our plane, today did not recognize the elections in the Crimea, and tomorrow? It's time to stop treating this frostbitten ice cream.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Treating ice cream is possible and necessary. The main thing when he starts eating ice cream is to stick a knife in his back. At the same time, smiling and bowing in compliments. Politics .......
In our case, Erdogan ate ice cream in Moscow and the Defense Ministry neatly bombed the positions of the Turkish army in Syria. Thin. Delicate, soulful people ...)

[isv000]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

It is possible and necessary to treat with ice cream. The main thing when he starts eating ice cream is to stick a knife in his back.

This is not our method. You can simply, when he bends over the ice cream, weigh the bream! ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

oh, that Erdogan is not any "partner" of Russia and, if the opportunity arises, he will stick a knife in the back, it is probably already clear to everyone,

So it's time for the Sultan to decide, Europe does not want to see him in its ranks, has quarreled with the states, is trying to bite Russia. There is only one "dumb sidekick" left - Vazelin, and that 404, and you see, they will arrange a new putsch.

[Boromir1941]

well, in general, I perceive his words as arrogance

[tralflot1832]

I do not recognize the Crimea by the Russian to one place. Let him seek the recognition of Northern Cyprus by Turkish. The flags of Turkey will never fly in the bays of the Crimea, like the Ukrainian ones. I mean on warships. At the traders you can.

[Troll]

"The dog barks, but the caravan moves on." Recognized, not recognized .. what's the difference.

[Axon]

Let Cyprus return first.

[isv000]

Quote: Axon

Let Cyprus return first.

And then? Kars?

[Rybakvitya]

Well, after all that has been said about Russia, the Sultan will remain its "partner"?

[sleeve]

Well, how else can we prove independence today? They bark at everyone, at the EU, at the USA, at us ...

[zan_parti]

I would like to see the following news as an answer:
"After Erdogan's statement, the Russians began to massively hand over the purchased vouchers to Turkey, and Russian stores stopped buying Turkish tomatoes because the Russians basically stopped buying them, preferring tomatoes brought from more friendly countries."

And Putin, with a surprised face, threw his handles to the side and said: "I'm sorry Erdogash, it's not me, nothing depends on me here ..."

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Turkey is - Turkey. No wonder. Erdogan is "friend", "brother" of VVP.

[75 Sergey]

Turks from Syria will be harder to push out than Americans.

[tihonmarine]

For Turkey, the elections held by Russia for three days in Crimea have no legal effect.

Forgot the sultan how Russia supported him when on July 16, 2016, Gulen and his comrades decided to overthrow him.

[isv000]

Quote: tihonmarine

Forgot the sultan how Russia supported him when on July 16, 2016, Gulen and his comrades decided to overthrow him.

He didn't even remember, he took it for granted ...

[Dikson]

The Sultan's spit should be caught with servility, and presented with gifts, praising his kindness and intelligence .. When a friend comes to Moscow, they will vying with each other to give him a gift .. And he will continue to arm Ukraine in response .. and choose Azerbaijan for himself .. And you continue to catch his spitting, continue .. - a. Was it in vain that the pipe was built? Politics-s ..

[isv000]

Quote: Dikson

And he, in response, will continue to arm Ukraine .. and select Azerbaijan for himself.

They forgot about the Turkmens - they graze there with might and main, they build a fleet, just like the Azerbaijanis. If we continue to click with our beak, we will see Porto from sea to sea ...

[cniza]

Now, as experts suggest, Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan, during the latter's visit to Russia, "will again look for points of contact and opportunities for a compromise in the political sphere."

Let's see what happens ...

[Alsur]

Quote: Gardamir

until the collective West does.

In your proposal, there is not a word about the boys entrenched in the Kremlin. Maybe something depends on them?

You have dementia, how can the recognition of the collective West of Crimea by the Russian depend on Russia and its authorities?

[isv000]

Quote: ALSur

You have dementia, how can the recognition of the collective West of Crimea by the Russian depend on Russia and its authorities?

A tougher policy, total and catastrophic attacks on the barmaley in Syria, the overlap of trade with stolen goods and sprats, a tough policy on mattresses - these are the flowers that berries will give!

[Radik Khaertdinov]

Would it be better to explain what the Turks in Syria have forgotten? Syrian land or Syrian oil?)

[Zaurbek]

And we are very interested in who our elections matter, and for whom they don’t ...? Turkey has more territorial and national problems than the Russian Federation, and itself walks along the "thin" red line. And, moreover, not the Russian Federation is a threat to the Turks, but the "Democratic" developed states.

[valentine light]

Doesn't recognize and so what? He didn’t recognize Lukashenka either. Crimea is of little use from both the first and the second.
Earlier, the media showed the "map of interests" of Turkey, and so there Crimea and other regions of Ukraine are marked as Turkish ....
Ukraine does not care about their integrity.
Turkey and Russia have more projects that can be very useful for both countries than finding out "whose Crimea?" And "Kurdish sovereignty", for example ....

[megadeth]

Tired of ... the impression is that the GDP owes something to the Sultan, again on September 29.09 they will hug and kiss. American nuclear weapons have been deployed in Turkey, it is necessary to place them in the Crimea and hint unambiguously what, where, to whom and how much, in which case ... !!!

[Gavrohs]

The Russians need to build another nuclear power plant, at their own expense, as usual, and cover it with 400 and there will be beauty! Descendants will remember with gratitude!

[AB]

And that everyone was so horny. Just Oriental man Erdogan forgot eastern proverb - The dog barks, the caravan goes. Let it bark, our Crimea.

[iouris]

The northern part of Turkey was also part of Russia ...

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

There is also a nuclear power plant under construction, a serious increase in the Turkish power grids. But the fuel there is Russian !!!

Everything is much worse - the NPP is Russian, it is being built with Russian money, and the Turks will regulate tariffs ... It will pay off someday or not, the question is open ...

[isv000]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Everything is much worse - the NPP is Russian, it is being built with Russian money, and the Turks will regulate tariffs ... It will pay off someday or not, the question is open ...

Experts have already counted - there will be no profit for the next 50 years, for Russia ...

[Incvizitor]

Ours in response will again throw pearls in front of Turkish pigs.

[Tomich_1987]

God forbid you say this to a Muslim in the face.

[zwlad]

that Ankara does not recognize the elections to the State Duma of Russia held in Crimea

Looks like somewhere they pinched his tail, so he began to sing.

[George Koval]

Again we will chew snot ... That is why so often various pugs will continue to wipe their feet about us

[CYM]

Quote: Ryaruav

and what will he get for it?

There will be nothing.
Chapaev:
- Criticism, Petka, is when an ordinary soldier can say anything in my eyes, and nothing will happen to him.
- Nothing?
- Nothing, Petka! No new horse, no hat, no checkers, no harness ... No-thing!
I wonder who will save Erdogan during the next putsch? After all, he managed to ruin relations with all the neighbors.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: CYM

I wonder who will save Erdogan during the next putsch? After all, he managed to ruin relations with all the neighbors.

Not necessarily a coup.
Turkey is not doing very well in the economy.
And the costs of several local wars are constantly required.
Now the crisis may be superimposed on some kind of exacerbation, for example, with the EU on the issue of Cyprus or refugees.

Living standards in Turkey will fall, Erdogan will be asked to leave. Behind him, as far as I remember, there is a corruption scandal involving a relative.

Again, the Gülen case is alive and well somewhere in the USA ...

[boni592807]

Erdogan raised the topic of Crimea at the UN in connection with Putin's words about the illegality of the presence of a number of foreign contingents in Syria

Turkey "solves" its issues and quite successfully, along the perimeter at home and on the territory of the CIS (CSTO). Examples of "work" on the Turkic questiony (see language issue at least in Kazakhstanf), and in the Russian Federation too. Worked before under the USSR, who did not forget the so-called. -"Gray wolves".
What will the RF do ?!:
Will "take away" the S-400, "Turkish Stream", a nuclear power plant being built with Russian money for Turkey??.
Once Brzezinski asked Moscow, whose oligarchs(sorry, socially responsible businessmen) in the Russian Federation ?! Then he recalled that the money of these "responsible" lies in the United States and the conclusion that they (their interests) are more likely for the United States.
And to what extent the "partners" from the CSTO and others? -our?!
- Biological Laboratories USA almost everyone
- agreement on the creation of the so-called "Turkic world" (in the future, a military alliance, but even earlier ...).
- How much is invested in CHG (Bogdasarov spoke up to 1 trillion) WHERE IS THE USE, like the Chinese? And so, as in the USSR, we feed, drink, keep and import into the Russian Federation en masse (pensions, work, school, hospital, now inscriptions on the subway on THEM and electives for their children, they don't know the language, ah, yay ...). Including not up to native Russians. And how many THEM are in the Russian Federation(go out into the street and "rejoice", who correctly wrote on VO say - from criminal offenses, to term, and the drugs flooded from their appearance ...
Including Turkey (Erdogan). does everything right:
- yummy rowing(NPP, gas pipeline, S-400 or what else ?!),
-"tank" rushing on the territory of the CIS (CSTO)- did not forget the Azerbaijani "citizens of the Russian Federation" with the flag of Turkey blocking the passage, etc.
- between the case and the benefit with Oh, kraina plays - sells drones, etc.
- does not forget the "deal" during the "transition" of Crimea to the Republic of Ingushetia... Clearly said -Crimea - RI (Russia) or only Turkey. More NOTHING.

[AC130 Gunship]

You look, soon the Chief Sanitary Doctor of Russia will find a cholera (or some other) stick in water or food in a restaurant in Turkey, a couple of "trusted comrades" will show a certificate of diarrhea and then flights to Antalya will again be banned for a year and a half. Bullshit question

[G.K]

Launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the Turkish fleet

[Borisych]

They forgot to remind Erdogan about the Su-24. It's okay, they'll remind you. The sultan must remember that Russian tomatoes are Turkish tomatoes. May there be a great Kurdistan from Istanbul to Ankara!

[Tomich_1987]

Tomatoes will be banned again ...