Negro, aircraft carrier and BLM

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Oh, these Americans ... Especially from Black Lives Matter ...

The United States of America continues to play its favorite game: building huge aircraft carriers. But even in such a case, sometimes everything turns out so that the hair just stands on end. And now you will meet one history, which is not devoid of black humor in every sense.



By the way, about black humor. One way or another, the author is not a racist and is quite tolerant of even the fact that one black man in the whole "Formula 1" gets up in this regard. Well, there "kneel and repent" and stuff like that. Even the Finns and Russians, who are no sideways to racism. Well, Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington - and in general our everything.

It's kind of confusing, right? Well then, in order.

Let's start with the Ford-class aircraft carriers.


These are terrible troughs, under 100 thousand tons of displacement, with a CWS inflated to the state of "Count Zepellin" (which is an airship) and cost as the annual budget of Moldova.

The Americans learned how to build this once, and, apparently, it is contagious, because they cannot calm down in any way. They build and build. And they (aircraft carriers) break and break. But sometimes they can sail to North Korea and show off a little there. Because they are very large and can afford it. United States, I mean.

And while some walk and swim, others are being built in the shipyards. And here the intrigue arises: what to call it?

Those who tried in their youth to create a rock group or open a company will understand that this is a very difficult business. Because "what do you call a yacht ..." - and then everything is clear.

And this is not a yacht. Here, sorry, an aircraft carrier. Beauty and pride of America in every sense. And this beauty floats on the ocean ... budget tears. But since you have to swim beautifully even in tears, you need to name them accordingly.


As we all already understood, in order to name an aircraft carrier by your name in the USA, you have to be an outstanding person. For example, Leslie Lynch King Jr., aka Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr., 38th President of the United States. Such a fighting guy, from an ordinary family, who served on navy and fought for three years in World War II. And then he became president, and, moreover, very good.


Ford, if anything, on the left. Right Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev

Or John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Also the President of the United States, only 35th in a row.


We pass as the commander of the RT-109 torpedo boat, who behaved quite well when the boat was rammed by a Japanese destroyer and cut in half.

Well, and then in the same spirit: admirals, senators, presidents.

Suddenly, the fourth Ford-class aircraft carrier will be named after Doris Miller. It's funny, but even Vika the know-it-all does not really give information about this person.

But I wonder who it is, since such a ship is named after him? Admiral? No. Former US President? No. Senator or Congressman? Again, no!

Doris Miller is a third-class sailor in the US Navy and a messenger on the battleship West Virginia. Black.

Negro, aircraft carrier and BLM

Not bad, huh?

Next to Nimitz, Kennedy, Ford, Bush and Reagan - this is Doris Miller. That's what democracy does, isn't it?

What kind of superhero is equal to presidents and admirals?

Doris Miller, a native of Texas, was born on October 12, 1919. Until September 1939, he did not show himself in anything, but with the outbreak of the Second World War, he volunteered for the navy.

Given his racial identity, Miller didn’t have anything but a job as an attendant, and he was appointed messenger to the wardroom of the battleship West Virginia. I believe that he was not oppressed very much there, a third-class sailor weighed about a hundred kilograms with a height of 190 centimeters. Moreover, Miller very quickly became the absolute champion of the battleship in boxing.

In short, a classic negro mordovorot with a patriotic bias.

In general, Miller served quietly on the battleship, served dishes and cleaned in the wardroom, on weekends he beat whites on the sly in the ring, and everything was relatively good for him. Plus, in my spare time, I took courses for an anti-aircraft gunner.

The idyll lasted, you guessed it, until December 7, 1941. When the Japanese Navy team visited Pearl Harbor.


Miller was quietly serving breakfast to the officers that day when the first torpedo hit the battleship at 7.47. Everyone realized that something had gone completely wrong and jumped out onto the deck. And there was already a show to smash Virginia to pieces. The bridge was covered with bombs, the anti-aircraft gun, to which Miller was assigned according to the combat crew, also ordered everyone to stand to death, so the first thing for Miller was the order to transport the wounded and shell-shocked ship commander Bennion to the infirmary. Nobody was going to sink then.

After the infirmary, in the reigning chaos, Miller was put to the twin anti-aircraft "Browning", a carrier.


However, after the gunner failed (he did not find clearly what happened to him, most likely a shrapnel or a bullet), Doris himself stood behind the installation and continued to shoot until he ran out of cartridges. It has been reliably confirmed that he shot down one Japanese.

All is well, but by that time the underwater part of the Virginia had turned into a sieve, since 9 torpedoes are a lot even for a battleship and the ship began to sink.

The crew was very lucky that there were so many torpedoes. The battleship sank very quickly, on an even keel, in fact, just sat down on the ground.


It is noted that Miller, after he ran out of ammunition, did not sit still, but started helping his wounded comrades get to the shore.

In general, he behaved like a normal sailor, if so.

After such a slap in the face, as usual, heroes are very much needed. And Miller was lucky, he became such a hero. He was even almost awarded the US Congress Medal of Honor, the country's highest award for the military, but they thought better of it in time. Miller was awarded by Admiral Nimitz, after whom the aircraft carrier will also be named, and awarded the second most important award, the Naval Cross.


By the way, the presence of Miller and the Purple Heart among the awards suggests that he was wounded. And this is definitely not the case in the wardroom usually.

Miller became a naval icon for a while, toured the country, encouraging blacks to enlist in the navy. By the way, he did quite well. A hefty black guy with a high award on his chest - what an example for others?

I would say that Miller showed that blacks are not only suitable for the role of waiters and cleaners.

And then Miller was sent to serve on the escort aircraft carrier Liskom Bay.


Alas, this was the end of his service, because a short time after the beginning of his service (started in July 1943) "Liskom Bay" on November 24, 1943 received a torpedo salvo from the Japanese submarine I-175.

The aircraft carrier sank, and Miller was not among those rescued.

In general, let's say this: not the greatest merits, right? If we are talking about guys who worked wonders on the battlefields, then Miller was definitely not suitable for the same Matt Urban, the crazy Pole who was awarded the highest number of military awards in the entire war. One collection of "Purple Hearts" - seven. Or Warren Gracie, "The Worst Man in 761," who also did some work during the fighting in France.

But heroes are sometimes not chosen, they are appointed. Admiral Nimitz would probably be very surprised if he found out that an aircraft carrier would also be named after the black sailor to whom he presented the award.

In general, back in the seventies, a frigate bore the name of Doris Miller. Now higher - a whole aircraft carrier.

No, on the one hand, it's okay. Negroes fought along with everyone on ships and even airplanes. And many of the black Americans performed feats in that war. And they are quite worthy of their names remaining in history.

Of course, it is not for us to judge the Americans by whose names the ships are called. And someday we may have a killer vessel "Mikhail Gorbachev". Hope.

But I think it's the BLM guys. After all, Miller is an iconic figure for the black population. The first black man to be awarded a high military order. Unsurprisingly, Miller has grown from a frigate to an aircraft carrier lately.

But seriously - it's not the name of George Floyd to call an aircraft carrier, right?
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  1. +28
    25 September 2021 04: 52
    By the way, about black humor. One way or another, the author is not a racist and is quite tolerant of even the fact that one black man in the whole "Formula 1" gets up in this regard.
    I also hate blacks and racists ... lol by the way, "George Washington" (CVN-73) can tongue rename "Denzel Washington"

    1. +41
      25 September 2021 08: 36
      I also hate blacks and racists
      Yeah .. There is also an anecdote - if not for racism, people and blacks would live in peace and harmony.
      1. +27
        25 September 2021 10: 29
        And this is why black always wins in running and white in shooting
        1. +21
          25 September 2021 14: 18
          - Barrymore, what is this noise under our windows?
          “This is a gay parade, sir.
          "What do they want, Barrymore?"
          - Free same-sex love, sir.
          - What, does anyone forbid them to live the way they want?
          - No, sir.
          - So why are they screaming so loudly then?
          - So we fucking sir, sir.
          1. +3
            25 September 2021 14: 34
            In the name of Floyd? Well, a little more and they will name some kind of trough. Or a police station and a prison ..
            1. +3
              26 September 2021 09: 00
              Quote: 210ox
              In the name of Floyd? Well, a little more and they will name some kind of trough. Or a police station and a prison ..

              And why not call this wonderful warship, an aircraft carrier, simply and beautifully - "Uncle Tom's hut." fellow
        2. +10
          25 September 2021 17: 13
          And someday we may have a killer vessel "Mikhail Gorbachev". Hope.

          Let's better have a sewer vessel ... They walk the seas like that!

          This one in the photo next to New York is pumping and carrying ...
          So the "marked" will be honored and deserved. soldier
          1. +9
            25 September 2021 17: 25
            And it will be impossible to sink "Mikhail Gorbachev" because the guano does not sink. At least because of the name ... wassat
          2. +3
            27 September 2021 22: 07
            Yes, yes, to call this name (forgive the tautology) a US Navy sewer vessel !! It will be an honor for him !!
        3. Alf
          +3
          25 September 2021 22: 00
          Quote: sanja.grw
          And this is why black always wins in running and white in shooting

          Because the whites were having fun shooting at blacks, that's what the gene memory gives the order to the legs.
          1. Alf
            +3
            26 September 2021 16: 55
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: sanja.grw
            And this is why black always wins in running and white in shooting

            Because the whites were having fun shooting at blacks, that's what the gene memory gives the order to the legs.

            Minus - in Australia, whites, including women, were amused in the same way, shooting at the aborigines.
      2. +4
        26 September 2021 19: 50
        Why are all blacks are so fast?
        because all the slow ones are already in jail! fellow
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  3. +31
    25 September 2021 05: 13
    Come on, nafig them. He always disliked sectarians - feminists there, pseudo-environmentalists from Greenpeace, the sect of witnesses to the launch of Teslamobile - or BLM. And in general, if there is a mass movement of NEGROS who hate whites and publicly insult them with or without reason - this is a sufficient reason for me not to love NIGERS - they insult me, too. Well, what's so criminal about that ?!
    There is a saying - if you are wrongly accused - come back and deserve!
    For example, it pisses me off that they make a fool of me, molding about blacks, that they are African Americans! They are negroes! And the African American is just Elon Musk, if that
    1. +6
      25 September 2021 05: 33
      Blacks - in Africa, in the United States - African Americans, in Liberia - American-Liberians.
      1. +2
        25 September 2021 05: 44
        And an Egyptian with a Mexican passport is probably an African American owner
        1. +3
          25 September 2021 05: 48
          Egyptian-Mexican. By the way, the term "Mexican Americans" also exists.
          1. KCA
            +13
            25 September 2021 08: 14
            It seems that there is a collective word for all residents south of the United States - Latinos, as well as for the United States gringos
            1. +2
              25 September 2021 08: 15
              Well Duc. Mexican Americans are Latinos. They just separate themselves into a separate subgroup.
              1. +3
                25 September 2021 08: 28
                Quote: Tomic_1987
                Mexican Americans are Latinos. They just separate themselves into a separate subgroup.

                They can call themselves, in their midst, even the Eskimos, their problems.

                It's about how he calls them and who he considers the rest most population.
                1. +1
                  25 September 2021 08: 34
                  It depends on what kind of person they consider him to be.
                  1. +1
                    25 September 2021 08: 36
                    Quote: Tomic_1987
                    It depends on what kind of person they consider him to be.

                    Yes, it's not about an individual person, but about a language group ...
            2. +3
              26 September 2021 04: 03
              Historically, there are two names for the inhabitants of the American continent (apparently North American):
              - YANKI - white Americans,
              - INCI - red.
              , and the negros there are generally leftists, they need to go to Africa - to their homeland.
      2. +7
        25 September 2021 10: 15
        I don't really care where and how they are called.
        But I do not care if in Russia the ship is suddenly called Mikhail Gorbachev.
        Well, I don’t understand then, I destroyed the Union, and on you, a ship in your name.
        1. 0
          8 February 2022 13: 42
          Gorbachev, is it harm to appear, but I won’t be surprised at the appearance of a frigate or corvette "Boris Yeltsin" ...
      3. Alf
        +3
        25 September 2021 22: 02
        Quote: Tomic_1987
        Blacks - in Africa, in the United States - African Americans, in Liberia - American-Liberians.

        Then a counter question - how, in this case, to call the Germans living in the United States? American Aryans?
        1. 0
          26 September 2021 01: 49
          German-American
      4. 0
        27 September 2021 07: 38
        Quote: Tomic_1987
        Blacks - in Africa, in the United States - African Americans, in Liberia - American-Liberians.

        And which of them does not belong to the Negroid race?
    2. +6
      25 September 2021 14: 06
      Quote: Cowbra
      a mass movement of NEGROS who hate whites and publicly insult them about

      By the way, I have a question for these blacks:
      where do they look when their ships sail on the Black Sea?
      That is, they walk (stamp on) BLACK. If the question was raised about chess (why black moves second), then it would be worth puzzling over the sea (the object, after all, is larger).
      1. +3
        27 September 2021 07: 41
        Quote: Bad_gr
        If the question was raised about chess (why does black move second)

        Not only chess. The piano has fewer black keys. A clearly racist tool.
    3. 0
      25 September 2021 19: 19
      Black Americans. laughing
    4. +2
      27 September 2021 02: 53
      Quote: Cowbra
      And in general, if there is a mass movement of NEGROS who hate whites and publicly insult them with or without reason - this is a sufficient reason for me not to love NIGERS - they insult me, too. Well, what's so criminal about that ?!

      Here you are wrong. We understand "whites" too literally. And from their point of view, the Russians do not belong to the "white". These include the Anglo-Saxons and other founders of colonial empires, after the WWII Jews were attributed to them (black Jews, apparently, are not counted among whites), but the Irish, for example, are still confused :) How do you think of the Germans in World War II such a thrust in propaganda work to massively ascribe to the composition of the Red Army the Mongols, Kalmyks, etc.? Precisely to emphasize that the Wehrmacht is at war with the "non-whites", and therefore no European rules of warfare are valid here. Let me remind you that the ideology of Nazism is based on the racial theory, the struggle of the "truly white, Aryan" race. Hence the Nazi-Nazi love for "Buryat armored horse divers" and constant fantasies about the Russian-Mongol hordes. Well, and hence the urge of Europeans to master the "wild eastern lands." Although now they have such a mess of noisy idiots there that everyone can turn it over :)))
  4. +4
    25 September 2021 05: 33
    They have a revolution there, so the usual frenzy is happening, as after any revolution. Over there, in 1921, the battleship was named "Marat" in honor of the French revolutionary, who had nothing to do with the RSFSR.
    1. +3
      25 September 2021 05: 48
      With tripods, this music is eternal. What does it have to do with mayors, senates - and the USA? If the mayor is a foreman in French and the senate is also in France? Are they all French there, chtol?)))
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 08: 04
        Parliament is also from "parla", that is, to speak French.
        1. +1
          27 September 2021 08: 10
          In short, the frogs were under-suppressed in time - the whole world suffers)))
          1. 0
            27 September 2021 08: 15
            It is when? In the 14th century, when all the English nobility spoke the then French?
    2. +4
      25 September 2021 17: 29
      "Paris Commune" also, you know, was not born in Petrograd))
    3. Alf
      +3
      25 September 2021 22: 07
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      They have a revolution there, so the usual frenzy is happening, as after any revolution. Over there, in 1921, the battleship was named "Marat" in honor of the French revolutionary, who had nothing to do with the RSFSR.

      Well, the first revolution happened in France. There is a revolution there and a revolution here, so analogies were carried out.
      Although the names were entertained in the 20s - Mom, don't worry! Factory Red Feeder is how? The feeder is, in fact, an electrical device, but how a device can be revolutionary, for me this great mystery is. Or the post of Zamkomomorde-Deputy Commissioner for Maritime Affairs. recourse request
    4. 0
      27 September 2021 02: 59
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      In 1921, the battleship was named "Marat" in honor of the French revolutionary, who had nothing to do with the RSFSR.

      Why should he have? All the same, communism is a class theory, to them the French revolutionary is much closer to the Russian nobleman, industrialist or clergyman.
  5. +12
    25 September 2021 06: 15
    Just in case.
    Ellington was not Luke, but Duke.
    Although, in fact, Edward. hi
    But we will not find fault with trifles, but we will simply accept it for a tortured speck. laughing
    1. +5
      25 September 2021 15: 24
      The author, in fact, would not hurt to get at least some kind of editor, because today his motto is "not a single article without blunders." laughing
      1. Alf
        +3
        25 September 2021 22: 08
        Quote: Adieu
        The author, in fact, would not hurt to get at least some kind of editor, because today his motto is "not a single article without blunders." laughing

        But commentators are interested and not bored, and informative.
    2. 0
      2 October 2021 02: 21
      Open Luke Ellington and sink a vessel to the music of Duke.
  6. +10
    25 September 2021 06: 16
    And I did not understand the essence of the claim.
    Well, they named it after the sailor, not the admiral. Is there somewhere a table of ranks, where it is written to what rank which ships can be called?
    1. +9
      25 September 2021 06: 32
      I agree with you! Why can't a large ship be named after an ordinary hero?
      1. +13
        25 September 2021 07: 02
        Thank God, it turns out that there are adequate comments.
        Personally, I would be on a drum if one of the frigates of the "admiral's series" was named after a worthy hero - a sailor, even if he was from national minorities.
        But the "admiral's series" was not completed. The opposite problem is that the names are a dime a dozen, but there are no ships ...
        1. +6
          25 September 2021 10: 14
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Thank God, it turns out that there are adequate comments.

          I agree with you.
          What do we care about the names of foreign ships, and those that our country has not yet been able to build for a long time. And the problem here is not the sailor, and not even the color of his skin, but in
          But sometimes they can sail to North Korea

          Swim ...
          The United States of America continues to play its favorite game: building huge aircraft carriers.

          Building the world's most powerful ships is a "game" ...
          Such terrible troughs, under 100 thousand tons of displacement, with a CWS bloated to the state of "Count Zepellin" ...

          Trough ...
          Further it was possible not to read, since everything else is an entourage. After all, the names of warships are given for a reason. And the mere fact that some messenger was a boxing champion, then shot down the plane, and it was he who was entrusted with the wounded commander says a lot, speaks to many people ...
          1. +10
            25 September 2021 12: 28
            And already the fact that some messenger was a boxing champion, then shot down the plane, and it was he who was entrusted with the wounded commander


            And the most important thing is that I got into the modern stream of promotion "black people too". This is the only and main reason.
            This is about black racism that crawls around the world.
            What's next ? Will they test each other for the degree of "blackness"? They are also different - from blue-green to light brown.
            And the Afroführer will appear and determine the correct colors.
            At the root, you need to stifle all these things with kneeling and kissing on the color of the skin and the cut of the eyes.
            1. Alf
              +1
              25 September 2021 22: 15
              Quote: dauria
              Will they test each other for the degree of "blackness"?

              Quite possible. When Israel was born, Jews from all over the world returned to it, even such exotic as Ethiopian Jews. So, the locals considered these circumcised Ethiopians to be Jews of the second class, and not really hiding it.
              1. +2
                26 September 2021 04: 12
                Quote: Alf
                the locals considered these circumcised Ethiopians to be second-class Jews

                Google how they inject a hormonal agent to prevent pregnancy under the guise of vaccinations and vitamins to local Arab women. At what, very powerful, some of the girls, after this, will never be able to become mothers again.
                Mengele approves, yes ...

                As for me, the Yudishks, after World War II, too zealously adopted the methods that the Germans had previously applied to them.
                But if it was - genocide, the Holocaust, and other crimes against humanity, then the God's Chosen Arabs press solely out of good intentions.
          2. Alf
            +2
            25 September 2021 22: 13
            Quote: Doccor18
            and it was he who was entrusted with the wounded commander that speaks volumes,

            It's just that the rest were busy with an exciting business according to the staffing table.
          3. 0
            27 September 2021 08: 14
            The wounded commander was entrusted to him because he was hefty, which means he could carry a man quickly. In the "pills" they generally try to take stronger guys so that they can pull out the other guy, and even in the outfit. And the girls-nurses of the Second World War are mostly nonsense, about which those of them who really dragged men from the battlefield, or pulled them out of wrecked tanks, directly speak.
      2. +12
        25 September 2021 08: 12
        Of course it is possible. That's just the last 60 years they were called by the names of presidents, admirals and then bam. Tradition has been destroyed for the sake of a minority, and even so radically. He is not glorified for his merits, but for his skin color. This is what the conversation is about.
      3. +8
        25 September 2021 08: 29
        Quote: ASAD
        Why can't a large ship be named after an ordinary hero?
        you probably didn't read the article carefully where you saw the hero in this sailor? There are more worthy sailors than this ebony, but fought, yes was in battle, and the problem is not that he is a sailor, but in BLM.
      4. Alf
        +2
        25 September 2021 22: 11
        Quote: ASAD
        I agree with you! Why can't a large ship be named after an ordinary hero?

        Because it's a BIG ship. Recently there was a series of articles on the name of ships, who is entitled to what, and so everything is clearly described there. Battleships-battleships-aircraft carriers-the names of people of higher ranks, cruisers-geographical names, smaller types of destroyer frigates just by the names of the heroes.
    2. +3
      25 September 2021 07: 38
      good I support! The guy fought? Yes. Lost in the chaos of the Japanese attack? No. Even one plane was shot down. What are the claims?
      1. +14
        25 September 2021 08: 44
        Even one plane was shot down
        The veracity of this fact is questionable. West Virginia fired at the enemy almost from the very beginning of the raid (the first of the six or seven torpedoes that hit the battleship exploded at 7:56 am) and until 10:05 am (when all anti-aircraft ammunition was used up and the order was given to leave the blazing, sinking ship). But according to none of the classic descriptions of the battle, this battleship does not claim to be shot down Japanese planes, officially the shooting down of the plane is attributed to "Maryland".
        “Two were supposed to shoot, and Doris Miller was to bring cartridges. But before Delano had time to turn away, Miller, looking happy, jumped up to the machine gun and gave a long burst. The Negro messenger, who had never fired a machine gun before, could become more dangerous than the Japanese. But he was so glad that Lieutenant Delano was surprised to see the smile on the face of the black giant for the second time in his life. The first time was when Miller became the Navy Heavyweight Boxing Champion for the West Virginia team. "
        This is what Walter Lord, one of the most famous investigators of the attack on Pearl Harbor, writes in his book A Day of Shame. The reliability of the descriptions is not in doubt, since this work is primarily based on personal conversations between the author and the direct participants in the events. Doris himself believed that he knocked him down, but even he was not completely sure of this - “I think I have one of those Japanese planes. They dived pretty close to us. " Later, some began to credit Miller with shooting down four or even six Zeros.
        1. +2
          25 September 2021 15: 34
          Let it be yours - not knocked down. Fought not worthily?
          1. Alf
            +5
            25 September 2021 22: 19
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Let it be yours - not knocked down. Fought not worthily?

            If my memory serves me, 29 Japanese planes were shot down on the Day of Shame. Someone knocked them down, but for some reason they called them by the name of a Negro. But Tylor and Welch shot down as many as 7 Japanese, but for some reason the aircraft carriers Tylor and Welch did not appear in the US Navy.
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    4. +11
      25 September 2021 10: 34
      Well, they called it the name of a sailor, not an admiral
      there is such a thing called caronymy hi And here on her, usually. ships of the first ranks are usually called the first (in status and importance) names)) Imagine some small minesweeper (in a series of about a hundred keels) bearing the name of an entire state, or republic))) For example, a base minesweeper bearing the name - "Hero of the Soviet Union, Marshal Zhukov". And imagine a missile cruiser named Hero of the Soviet Union Sergeant Major Vasily Zaitsev. Like that hero, and that hero BUT! Still, the scales are somewhat different. Or, for example, if the 2TOE flagship battleship "Prince Suvorov" would be called "Sailor Cat". Or some "Zealous", "Fast", "Sungari" ..... somehow the truth does not fit?
      And yes. I didn’t come up with it, as it were.
      Here is an excerpt and articles right there on VO -
      The main traditions and principles of naming the ships of the Russian Navy were laid by its creator, Peter the Great. By the beginning of the 20 century, these traditions have developed into a certain nomination system: the selection of ship names in accordance with its class, purpose, combat and seaworthiness.

      full article - https://topwar.ru/103260-rossiyskaya-karonimika-vzglyad-vpered-iz-proshlogo.html
      I suppose it works for the Yankers about the same hi
      1. +6
        25 September 2021 12: 09
        Well, that is, the report card does exist, although not officially, but in the form of traditions and customs.
        1. +5
          25 September 2021 12: 13
          Well, that is, the report card does exist
          Well, what am I talking about)))
          though not officially, but in the form of traditions and customs.
          I suspect it's quite official.
      2. -9
        25 September 2021 13: 45
        It is this and that hero. There are many heroes, many ships, many names. Victory in battle is won by soldiers and sailors. And the marshals in their chain, in open space, without artillery preparation, send the height to take. And they put it in thousands. Yes, to hell with them, women still give birth. Such as Zhora.
        1. +10
          25 September 2021 14: 09
          And the marshals in their chain, in open space, without artillery preparation, send the height to take
          marshals are not sent to take heights. For this there are commanders of lower rank.
          Victory in battle is won by soldiers and sailors
          apparently according to the already classic - contrary to? Without planning operations, logistics, intelligence (collected, correlated, directed to where and to whom) and in general on their own. Contrary to the marshals so?
          And put in thousands
          those. out of stupidity or mischief? So, for fun's sake ?. And by the way, for such "art", those who, out of stupidity, put the personnel on the head in vain. Penal battles (not stupidly serial) were created specifically for officers. Yes, and put up to the wall for something like that.
          Yes to hell with them, women still give birth.
          This is probably Zhukov (or Stalin) invented right?
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бабы_новых_нарожают
          But, for example, the Japanese during the war actually had "banzai attacks". When, without ammunition, they went with bayonets (and sometimes with sharpened sticks) to machine guns. So I suppose they are like this ... "you" probably sincerely admire them?
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Банзай-атака I understand, "Aunt Vika" is not always right, but there is a lot of evidence in both the first and second cases of the above articles.
          1. -2
            26 September 2021 11: 23
            Comrade Marshal had a nickname in the troops, Zhora the Butcher, and it was with his submission that the commanders of a lower rank gave such orders.
            He and others like him, from 41-43, planned solid boilers and destroyed, in them, whole armies and corps. And a huge number of Soviet people who fell into slavery.
            For the desire to solve the assigned task with a soldier's belly, and not with the ability and competent command, it is supposed to put up against the wall, and not in the officer's penal battalion.
            It doesn't matter who invented this, and I didn't write anything about the IVS, specifically about Zhora.
            I don’t admire the Japanese, what nonsense? The enemy, he is the enemy.
            In any army in the world, such women exist.
        2. +3
          25 September 2021 17: 42
          I, too, had great doubts about Zhukov's actions. But only by analyzing many events IN GENERAL, I realized that he was almost always right.
          Another thing is how his orders were implemented in accordance with the situation ...
          Is Zhukov guilty of the tragedy of the 33rd Army and the death of its commander Efremov surrounded? Undoubtedly. But was there any other way to contain the advancing enemy - no. The capture of Vyazma (the largest transport hub) meant the collapse of a part of the German front. Therefore, "in spite of everything and in spite of everything," they threw everything they had into battle. Even without heavy weapons.
          1. -1
            26 September 2021 11: 31
            The consequences of such decisions reverberated around the country for many years after the Victory. A country is not a territory, it is, first of all, people living in it. And people were laid down senselessly. Yes, he turned out to be right, in the result. But not always. But the price has always been exorbitant. Why was the attitude of the privates towards Rokossovsky different?
      3. +3
        25 September 2021 13: 53
        It looks like they have it differently
        Otherwise, there would have been no Cabot aircraft carrier or the Zamwolt-class destroyer Michael Monsour.
    5. +5
      25 September 2021 12: 06
      There are established rules in the names of ships. Aircraft carriers were named after presidents, battleships were named after states, cruisers - cities, frigates - distinguished sailors or military. Hence the name of the frigate by the name of this sailor. Our SSBNs are named after great statesmen, nuclear submarines - the names of provincial cities, etc. There was an article on VO about the names of the ships. So this is really an out of the ordinary case and may be a reason for writing an article. Well, the interpretation of this case is up to the imagination and discretion of the author.
    6. +6
      25 September 2021 12: 24
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      And I did not understand the essence of the claim.

      So do I.
      "hero our their time ".
      What is to us?
      Don't kneel down and that's it.
      Quote: Author
      These are terrible troughs, under 100 thousand tons of displacement, with a CWS inflated to the state of "Count Zepellin" (which is an airship) and cost as the annual budget of Moldova.

      The Americans learned to build this once, and, apparently, it is contagious,

      belay
      Let me remind you that, in fact, no one else on the planet knows how to build such troughs and cannot.
    7. 0
      27 September 2021 08: 09
      Such systems can be clearly prescribed, for example, Japanese aircraft carriers were named after the provinces of Japan, and no one will name a large ship after some counter-admiral, of whom there were thousands, they will take the names of cities, large polit. leaders, although some thread "Manomakh" is not serious, well, or the commander of the Navy, as in the case of Kuznetsov.
    8. 0
      2 October 2021 02: 35
      To the subject: some blacks wear a white sea uniform (this colorful guy is Doris Miller), as well as some pale-faced black concert tuxedos. And in the photo, Admiral Nimitz is also not small. I could also knock on faces on weekends with pale faces in the ring (well, or not pale faces. And not in the ring, but in the cabins - companies, for example).
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  8. +12
    25 September 2021 06: 34
    Well, in the states, ships were named and named after their black citizens.
    In the picture - the lead tanker of the US Navy of the new type - "J. Lewis" - so named in honor of the fighter for civil rights (Negro, of course). Laid down in May last year.
    But the next one - this is generally - the 206th is named "H. Milk" - this is the first gay person elected in the States to a public post - a member of the Supervisory Board of San Francisco! In 1978, he was shot by a colleague along with the then mayor of the city (jealous?). lol
    1. 0
      25 September 2021 17: 40
      Quote: A. Privalov
      But the next one - this is generally - the 206th is named "H. Milk" - this is the first gay person elected in the States to a public post - a member of the Supervisory Board of San Francisco!

      The word "homosexual" in VO is not considered a curse - checked. You can safely use it. Yes
      1. +2
        25 September 2021 18: 10
        Quote: Motorist
        Quote: A. Privalov
        But the next one - this is generally - the 206th is named "H. Milk" - this is the first gay person elected in the States to a public post - a member of the Supervisory Board of San Francisco!

        The word "homosexual" in VO is not considered a curse - checked. You can safely use it. Yes

        It is possible that there are separate rules for you.
        A warning was issued to me for this.
        hi
        1. 0
          25 September 2021 18: 18
          Quote: A. Privalov
          I was reprimanded for this.

          Maybe you wrote it with three mistakes? lol Or maybe they made comments to me, but I don't know? belay
          1. +3
            25 September 2021 18: 23

            Quote: Motorist
            Maybe you wrote it with three mistakes?

            Qualified as checkmate, although this word was used in the context of a value judgment. But they don't argue with the Moderators.
            Illiteracy is not persecuted in VO.
      2. Alf
        +3
        25 September 2021 22: 22
        Quote: Motorist
        Quote: A. Privalov
        But the next one - this is generally - the 206th is named "H. Milk" - this is the first gay person elected in the States to a public post - a member of the Supervisory Board of San Francisco!

        The word "homosexual" in VO is not considered a curse - checked. You can safely use it. Yes

        But the robot corrected the once written name of the French scientist Gay Lussac to Pederast Lussac. And this is included in the annals of the VO.
        1. +1
          26 September 2021 14: 21
          Quote: Alf
          But the robot corrected the once written name of the French scientist Gay Lussac to Pederast Lussac. And this is included in the annals of VO

          And here it was necessary to be separated by a hyphen. I once mentioned all six (on the topic of ideal gas state) in one comment - there was no autocorrect. hi
  9. +4
    25 September 2021 06: 35
    Why should I care? Do we have common problems? Yes, and if not yet, then they shouldn't be. Illuminating America, we will never see the line of homeless people for a bowl of soup, Homeless people, who bask in the night street. Describing Brazil, we will be shown a carnival. But they will not show homeless children in garbage dumps. You can't show that. You will also put trouble on your head.
  10. +4
    25 September 2021 06: 49
    So what? What do we care about their names? Is it just that the Americans repeat the early Bolshevik nonsense with the names of warships. That there is only "Battleship Marat"! (this is the one who insisted on the execution of the French king, and was also stabbed to death in his own bath)

    An underwater rock under the keel!
  11. +3
    25 September 2021 07: 07
    Yes, let them call it what they want. It is written as if the film "Circus" was watched.
    "- This woman ... This creature ... She was the mistress of a negro! She has a black child! Black child! Black child, gentlemen!"
    - So what? Yes, even pink speckled! "(C)
  12. +2
    25 September 2021 07: 46
    Why not Floyd's name?
    1. +8
      25 September 2021 08: 38
      The next one will be named))
  13. +5
    25 September 2021 07: 56
    Yes, in general, the American military were ofigel!
    Where are the aircraft carriers with female names?
    For example, Condoleezza Rice or Hillary Clinton?
    And what kind of infringement of minorities, where an aircraft carrier with the name of an LGBT representative, you give a ship with the name of some transgender, for example, this chma who performed at the Olympics?
    wassat
    1. +4
      25 September 2021 10: 05
      Do not say, you are not at alllaughing Let them call the aircraft carrier "Jack Daniel's", everyone knows him, or "Marlboro". Imagine how the command would be given to the captain: "Hey, Jack! Treat them to three of 100", or "Hey, cowboy! Give them a light!"
      I have nothing against blacks.
    2. 0
      25 September 2021 16: 18
      retvisan, or even better madeleine albrite with a portrait on the stem for fear of enemies
  14. +3
    25 September 2021 09: 42
    What do we care about their names at all ?! In Russia, no, no, military equipment is almost called Schwarzenegger. If in the name of the Aircraft carrier we see an American colored agitation, then sorry we ourselves have too many colored agitation.
  15. +4
    25 September 2021 10: 00
    In the current trend, is the name Aquagi suitable? From Cameroon to Chechnya, according to the precepts of the US demshiza)
  16. +2
    25 September 2021 10: 55
    It's funny, but even Vika the know-it-all does not really give information about this person.

    rather big article even in Russian on Wiki
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Миллер,_Дорис
    The English version is even more detailed - and, by the way, it says that it is officially recorded that he shot down at least two Japanese aircraft with a machine gun, for which he had no training - he was quickly explained how to shoot.
    The fact that he was involved in the rescue of the wounded was explained by his enormous physical strength, it helped to save several sailors who would have died without his help - he simply threw them to a safe place.
    It became known about his feat, but it was not immediately found him - at first, they declared gratitude as an unknown black man, the name became known later.
    About the award - from the very beginning, the NAACP proposed to award the Cross
    (The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is a large US non-governmental organization founded to defend the rights of the black population. It is currently one of the oldest and most influential organizations fighting for civil rights), on the cross of the naval minister and filed a submission.
    Later, one of the senators and the congressman tried to push through the decision on the Medal of Honor, but the awarding went as originally planned.
    In the States, he is one of the symbols of the heroism of the beginning of the war, it is not surprising that the frigate was named after him back in 1973, long before modern kneeling.
    In 1943, the Miller Foundation was founded, which awards prizes for achievements in the field of interracial relations, among the awardees, for example, was Roosevelt's wife.
    His image was used for campaigning on posters, was included in the 2010 series of stamps of the Postal Service "Outstanding Sailors"


    His name was originally used for the names of various buildings, schools, and so on.
    He got into various films about Pearl Harbor.
    And all this long before the current events. So it cannot be said that they have now invented a hero "on the topic of the day", he has been known in the States for a long time.
    By the way, the author has a small mistake with the Purple Heart - he received it posthumously, and not as a result of injury.
    1. 0
      25 September 2021 11: 45
      The author decided to raise the patriotic intensity at the same time to kick the Americans. In short, views earns
  17. -6
    25 September 2021 11: 28
    Thanks to the author - three beautiful photographs of the great aircraft carrier.
    All that remains is to envy those who managed to transfer to the great country - the United States, and now has the opportunity to serve at Ford, and not at the rusty antediluvian Kalosh from the post - the Sovdep fleet.
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      +1
      25 September 2021 22: 25
      Quote: AntiAleks
      It remains only to envy those who managed to transfer to a great country - the USA,

      And they didn’t let you in, so envy and rushing?
    2. -1
      26 September 2021 00: 03
      Pot???
  18. -1
    25 September 2021 11: 43
    Well, in Moscow there are streets named after American freaks and nothing. Who cares what they call their aircraft carriers. At least let them call it a toilet. The problem is that they have it and not one and not in their names
  19. +4
    25 September 2021 12: 09
    what does it matter to us what they call their aircraft carriers. we do not have such a problem, in the sense that there are no aircraft carriers. and we have a huge reserve of suitable names.
  20. +1
    25 September 2021 12: 52
    Roman, you sometimes write how you write. Well, what do we care what they call the ships? If not "Russiankiller", of course.
    Well, a black sailor. Although he fought. And let them fight for the honors of other sailors.
  21. +3
    25 September 2021 13: 25
    Not the greatest merit? What do you mean by the author? One of my grandfathers apparently died in the first attack, and most likely not a single fascist was killed. The second from 41 to 44 fired at the planes and God knows whether he shot down anyone, then a shell shock, he met victory in the rear. Are they not heroes anymore? You sit in an iron box when you are bombed and torpedoed, just sit there doing nothing and then examine the contents of the panties. It's disgusting to read that.
  22. +1
    25 September 2021 13: 50
    What difference does it make after whom the ship is named, that is their right. Especially if they were awarded the Naval Cross clearly not for their beautiful eyes and skin color at a time when in the United States there were Me / Jo toilets and for colored people. But of course, naming aircraft carriers after dead presidents is more pretentious.
  23. -1
    25 September 2021 16: 10
    cool humorously written article thank you novel
  24. 0
    25 September 2021 16: 33
    ... And someday we may have a killer vessel "Mikhail Gorbachev" ... a question from a purely dry land ... um ... a citizen of Russia (something like that) .. and what does this killer ship mean ... something purely derogatory but what ???
  25. 0
    25 September 2021 18: 12
    What is happening now in the United States seems like a clown, but all movements within America must be taken with attention and seriously. Often America does what is then exported to other countries, where the weak-minded are not, in order to give up the primacy of the minority over the majority. Even if it is imaginary, it will not be difficult to curtail all this confusion. But now the example has gone to other countries. And what about it?
  26. +1
    25 September 2021 19: 36
    Quote: Tomic_1987
    Blacks - in Africa, in the United States - African Americans, in Liberia - American-Liberians.

    And blacks in Russia are just blacks.
  27. +1
    25 September 2021 20: 07
    Stirlitz, are you a racist? Don't you like Koreans?
    I am an internationalist. Stirlitz answered proudly, I don't like everything ...
    N.Ass P. Begemotov
  28. +1
    25 September 2021 21: 22
    But the rhetoric will not stop there. And he will definitely demand to deprive the name of the well-deserved ship for ancient racism. It has already happened - let us recall the recent history of the forts.
  29. -1
    25 September 2021 23: 19
    It is a pity, a pity that the author did not mention LGBT people. Мне бы лично понравился американский авианосец "Ниггер" под флагом ЛГБТ. Well, if you can, then hang up the US flag. But at the same time, the LGBT banner should be in the position "from above". And so, everything is correct in the material. The more aircraft carriers they have, the more non-ferrous metal their bums will hand over. But everything has its time.
  30. 0
    26 September 2021 00: 51
    Doris Miller is known as a Hero in the United States, and the new movement has nothing to do with it. The author just doesn't like the fourth Ford being named after Doris Miller.

    And this is not a yacht. Here, sorry, an aircraft carrier. Beauty and pride of America in every sense. And this beauty floats on the ocean ... budget tears. But since you have to swim beautifully even in tears, you need to name them accordingly.

    The author will probably be surprised, but in America their heroes are honored and respected! And Doris Miller is a Hero!
    But the author believes that it is a shame to name an aircraft carrier after a black hero.
    Although the author writes:
    By the way, about black humor. One way or another, the author is not a racist and is quite tolerant of even the fact that one black man in the whole "Formula 1" gets up in this regard.

  31. 0
    26 September 2021 21: 23
    Negroes fought along with everyone on ships and even airplanes. And many of the black Americans performed feats in that war. And they are quite worthy of their names remaining in history.

    But I think it's the BLM guys.

    Something I don't see any logic at all. What does BLM have to do with it, Roman ??? request

    The guy really excelled personal heroism - not every "service" in a real battle will stand up to an anti-aircraft gun (thereby also actually causing fire on himself!), you know ...
    Why not name at least a frigate, even an aircraft carrier in his honor? Or are aircraft carriers worthy of being named only by the names of "high persons", but not "ordinary servants"?

    The fact of the matter is that a completely ordinary "little man" (see the definition) performed actions that was absolutely not obliged to commit according to their direct official duties. That is why he was and remains a hero, and not at all by virtue of some kind of "political agenda".

    In short, an article from the series "just to get to the bottom", in my opinion. Unlike many of Roman's other articles, this article no real argumentation at all - just some kind of continuous "public play" and extremely awkward attempts to multiply apples by oranges. But "clickbait, fashionable, stylish" ... stop
  32. 0
    27 September 2021 18: 13
    Strange whining about how much everything in America is expensive, but they print the world currency, they rob the whole world, they deeply do not care how much.
  33. 0
    29 September 2021 18: 51
    But we do not have their BLM, only they call everything by the name of Kadyrov. Hero, damn it ...
  34. 0
    30 September 2021 21: 41
    And how is George Floyd worse than Mikhail Gorbachev ?!