The legal aspect of the presence of the Pennsylvania National Guard in Lithuania: the state is actually not recognized as sovereign

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The head of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, Arvydas Anushauskas, met with Major General of the American National Guard Mark Schindler. The meeting took place in Lithuania, and during it the American general expressed words of support for the Lithuanian defense minister, promising to help Vilnius "in resolving issues of national security."

At first glance, nothing special happened for Lithuania: just another American assurance of military assistance. However, the caveat is that Major General Schindler is not the commander of the formation of the US Army as such, but the Pennsylvania National Guard. The peculiarity is that the National Guard of individual states of the United States in the overwhelming majority of cases is used to carry out certain actions within the framework of their functions on the territory of these (individual) states themselves, or are transferred to other US states in the event of certain emergency events (for example, as was the case with the storming of the Capitol). At the same time, the initial affiliation of the National Guard troops on the basis of American laws is assigned precisely to a separate state. And only by a special decision of the President of the United States, the units of the national guard of the state can be used abroad, and in the case of "an urgent need to provide assistance to the army units of the United States of America."

In the case of Lithuania, the General of the National Guard of Pennsylvania does not say anything about the "urgent need" to provide assistance to the American troops stationed in Lithuania. He promises military assistance to the head of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense.

It is important to note here that the Pennsylvania National Guards are present in Lithuania on a virtually permanent (rotational) basis. They conduct exercises, engage in instructor activities. For a long time, neither in Vilnius, nor even more so in Washington, has been remembered about any "special order of the President of the United States", as spelled out in American legislation on the issue of the overseas deployment of troops of the National Guard of the state. This can only say one thing: neither the command of the National Guard of the state of Pennsylvania, nor the United States as a whole see a state entity in Lithuania, frankly making it clear that they will deploy their "internal troops" there and when they themselves deem it necessary. By and large, the legal aspects of the involvement of the State National Guard in a foreign country are clearly violated.
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  1. +26
    21 September 2021 13: 47
    Are you laughing? Who in their right mind and firm memory sees state subjectivity in Lithuania? It's good that the Pennsylvania general did not urinate directly on the shoes of the Baltic minister ... Although, not a fact! laughing
    1. +3
      21 September 2021 13: 49
      Quote: Finches
      Who in their right mind and firm memory sees state subjectivity in Lithuania?

      This is not a gopher from DMB, laughing Lithuanian sovereignty is not visible and not in nature!
      1. +3
        21 September 2021 13: 53
        I have been saying and writing in my comments for a long time that even the very beginning of the US war with Russia by the Pentagon - i.e. Western attacks on the Russian Federation - from the territorial bridgehead of Lithuania at the Pentagon, not like coordinating the Americans in Washington with the Lithuanian government and with other countries of the Baltic states and Europe will not, and will not even notify them about it!

        Washington / Pentagon will simply present the limitrophe countries with the fact that the US itself has begun a war with Russia.
        1. +10
          21 September 2021 14: 30
          Interestingly, and a Russian person cannot understand this, the "countries" of the Tribaltik do not at all object to the delegation of their sovereignty to third countries.
          It sounds crazy to us, but to them it’s in the order of things, we laugh at it, and they take it for granted.
          1. +1
            21 September 2021 15: 06
            Quote: BABAY22
            , ...> The "countries" of the Tribaltik do not object at all to the delegation of their sovereignty to third countries.
            It sounds crazy to us, but for them - in the order of things, we laugh at it, but they take it for granted.

            It is for this reason, objectively slavishly humble in the economic and military terms, the WESTERN COLONIZERS in world history CONSCIOUSLY and divided other DUSTER empires administratively-territorially according to the so-called. a sign of an alleged "TITLE" nationality. Those. colonially split the WHOLE state into separate PARTS.
            At the same time, a small national state isolated from the WHOLE can only parasitize on the political preferences provided to him by a NEW strong master, but not be self-sufficient for the establishment of his own independent multinational empire.
            In other words. Part of the WHOLE is not equal to the Whole and cannot replace the former WHOLE in all respects.
            1. -1
              22 September 2021 13: 27
              WESTERN COLONIZERS in world history have CONSCIOUSLY and shared other DOMINANT empires

              That is, some colonialists crushed the empires they had conquered ... other colonialists. And what is so terrible about this fact?
          2. +1
            21 September 2021 20: 30
            For that, all of them (the countries of Sprotland) consider the times of being in the USSR as an occupation. So the occupation now, in all its glory, is manifested ,,,
          3. -1
            21 September 2021 23: 29
            This can only say one thing:

            ... incidents of hazing have become more frequent. The topic of the meeting is the recognition of same-sex marriages and unconventional ties between the warriors of the state of Pennsylvania and the descendants of the legendary Parkunas. In addition, local colleagues are actively supplying the brave Pennsylvanians with dried mushrooms and pickled junipers, which is of utmost concern.
            1. +2
              22 September 2021 13: 19
              Well, the language will not turn to call the present Litvin the descendants of Perun. Whoever violated the laws of the Family was expelled from the family. They are not for Perun, they died.
              1. 0
                23 September 2021 00: 35
                I will note that these Lithuanians held out to the end and Christianity was almost the last in the region. And therefore, "what to consider to be gossips to work, is it not better for yourself, godfather, to turn around?" (c) This is so, as a continuation of a free and irresponsible discussion. smile
                1. +1
                  23 September 2021 06: 30
                  Well, the key word is "current", and the fact that their ancestors were the last, so who had to look for wild tribes frozen in the Stone Age through forests and swamps, when rich and prosperous Russia is nearby? The churchmen were also not fools))
                  As a continuation of the freestyle))
                  1. 0
                    23 September 2021 15: 26
                    Rich and prosperous Russia? Are you seriously? It is probably worth reminding you what Russia was like after the Mongol invasion. This is exactly the second half of the 13th century. Note that the GDL at that time was becoming the largest medieval Slavic state in Europe, in which the ruling core were precisely those "tribes frozen in the Stone Age in forests and swamps." You can interpret anything to please your picture of the world, dear, but you also need to know the measure. We continue the discussion ...
                    1. +1
                      25 September 2021 13: 16
                      What are you talking about?:
                      Are you seriously? It is probably worth reminding you what Russia was like after the Mongol invasion. This is exactly the second half of the 13th century.

                      Rus was baptized at the end of the 10th century. At that time it was rich and prosperous, no one was going to climb the swamps behind the Estonians and Lithuanian clans of the 10-11th centuries - Russia was close by ...
                      I hope I brought you back to the era under discussion)) Continue))
                      1. 0
                        25 September 2021 14: 12
                        Quote: Nikon OConor
                        I hope I brought you back to the era under discussion)

                        Your and my postings were in line with the notes (see start) of the heirs of Perkunas, right? And you slip away to the north both in territory and in time - "behind the Estonians and Lithuanian clans of the 10-11th centuries." I advise you to first learn to distinguish Latvia from Lithuania. I conclude the discussion. Thank you all the best.
                      2. 0
                        25 September 2021 18: 18
                        Your and my postings were in line with the notes (see start) of the heirs of Perkunas, right?

                        Exactly so, I ask you not to consider me an ignoramus. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania did not yet exist even in the 11th century.
                        This is for you
                        I advise you to first learn to distinguish Latvia from Lithuania
                        .
                        Moreover, there was no Latvia in the historical documents of those years (Damn, and there were no historical documents of those years). The Lithuanian principality was formed from the West Slavic small principalities precisely during the era of the Mongol invasion. Then, in the 15th century, Muscovite Rus and Lithuanian Rus fought for the Great Russian throne.
                        When you reproached me for "slipping to the north", I meant Kievan Rus, where is it to the south? _))
                        Let's finish? Or no?))))
                2. 0
                  25 September 2021 13: 54
                  Lithuanians held out to the end and Christianity was almost the last in the region

                  Therefore, they held out the longest. They were a kind of "Elusive Joe" of the time and region, there were more tasty targets nearby.
                  1. 0
                    25 September 2021 14: 29
                    Quote: Nikon OConor
                    Therefore, they held out the longest. They were a kind of "Elusive Joe" of the time and region, there were more tasty targets nearby.
                    Lithuania was baptized in the 13th century when Russia collapsed. A time lag of 200 years did not help. It was? It was. The conviction of one's own greatness, as history shows, plays a cruel joke. I am not interested in the opinion of an illiterate network chauvinist - a lover of heroic computer games. Self-study or spend money on educators. All the best.
                    1. 0
                      25 September 2021 18: 24
                      You are a strange person. I have never insulted you (even covertly, as you did me). You want to transfer an interesting conversation to the level of stupid c, because of your illiteracy. I will not support you. All the best.
                    2. 0
                      25 September 2021 18: 27
                      Self-study or spend money on educators

                      To you the same, by the way, I have read about 40 books in my 3000 years.
                      So: Whose cow would .....
                    3. 0
                      25 September 2021 18: 49
                      In general, without unnecessary snot, it would be interesting for me to talk to you.
                      Sincerely drinks
    2. +1
      21 September 2021 13: 59
      what is there to pee? there they frankly drive on the lips ...
    3. +2
      21 September 2021 14: 12
      -not remembering neither in Vilnius, nor even more so in Washington.
      "Where did we go - to Moscow or to Mongolia, -
      He didn’t know, filthy, I - even more so. "
      Article for trolling PLUS.
    4. +1
      21 September 2021 16: 24
      Quote: Finches
      It's good that the Pennsylvania general did not urinate directly on the shoes of the Baltic minister ...

      Well, not all at once.
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  3. -2
    21 September 2021 13: 59
    What is the note about? About the fact that there is some kind of legal hook in finding shtatki in one of the Sprotland? Duc does not give a damn about it to everyone.
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  4. -2
    21 September 2021 14: 06
    In the case of Lithuania, the General of the National Guard of Pennsylvania does not say anything about the "urgent need" to provide assistance to the American troops stationed in Lithuania. He promises military assistance to the head of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense.
    The level of the people who came, well, so-so ... however, what else do those pugs want. The very thing corresponds ...
    Oh yes, the promise ... so-so, listen and ... well, they can be happy or something.
    1. -1
      21 September 2021 16: 31
      Quote: rocket757
      The level of the people who came, well, so-so ... however, what else do those pugs want. The very thing corresponds ...

      "According to Senka and a hat".
  5. 0
    21 September 2021 14: 09
    The United States as a whole does not see a state entity in Lithuania
    The funny thing is that Lithuania is happy about it and as a prostitute is ready to fulfill all American whims. At the same time, he puffs out his cheeks in Brussels, sprinkles anti-Russian libel and demands sanctions. It is surprising why until now Lithuania with two girlfriends, Poland and Ukraine are not included in the Russian list of unfriendly countries?
  6. -10
    21 September 2021 14: 13
    USA and Lithuania are NATO allies. Everything is taken into account in the agreement on Lithuania's accession to NATO. Lithuanian military studies in the higher military schools of the United States. Participate there in exercises, master new equipment, similarly, the US military is increasing its presence in Lithuania, incl. including tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. This is so that no one would be accustomed to return Stalin's gifts "... to their home harbor .." Vilnius and Klaipeda.
    1. +1
      21 September 2021 14: 37
      It doesn't hurt that the American masters are eager to fight for their sixes :))) Don't shy, no one in Russia needs your unnecessary Lithuania, or Latvia (already forgot how it is there) is not needed :))) So you can store pickles, although you will allow your owners too much in relation to Russia from your farm - do not be offended :)))
      1. 0
        21 September 2021 14: 48
        Quote: VORON538
        It doesn't hurt that the American masters are eager to fight for their sixes :))) Don't shy, no one in Russia needs your unnecessary Lithuania, or Latvia (already forgot how it is there) is not needed :))) So you can store pickles, although you will allow your owners too much in relation to Russia from your farm - do not be offended :)))

        You still forgot to remind him about the right of the first night, but it will be, after all, the naguards are mostly men
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 16: 35
          Quote: Mitroha
          You forgot to remind him about the right of the first night

          They did not have this, the other two neighbors had it.
          1. +1
            21 September 2021 16: 42
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Mitroha
            You forgot to remind him about the right of the first night

            They did not have this, the other two neighbors had it.

            "- Have you had any accidents at the construction site?
            -No
            -Will be! "- ©
            laughing
      2. 0
        21 September 2021 15: 32
        Quote: VORON538
        It doesn't hurt that the American masters are eager to fight for their sixes :))) Don't shy, no one in Russia needs your unnecessary Lithuania, or Latvia (already forgot how it is there) is not needed :))) So you can store pickles, although you will allow your owners too much in relation to Russia from your farm - do not be offended :)))

        Stop Stop !! And the Suwalki corridor ?? winked
      3. -1
        21 September 2021 16: 33
        Quote: VORON538
        Have you already dug the sync for yourself?

        I got it from my grandfather.
  7. +5
    21 September 2021 14: 22
    Again, news like our Foreign Ministry and Channel One is sucked from the finger ... All parts of the US National Guard are integrated into the US Armed Forces, they have a dual status, so a National Guard soldier involved in any service without the participation of the US Armed Forces is a federal representative and without a special order from the President The United States cannot be outside the country, but when serving together or as part of the US Armed Forces, NG fighters are equated to ordinary military personnel and no order is needed! In other words, even the transportation of this general on an Air Force plane, not NG, makes him an ordinary general, and not from NG, the presence of any US soldier on the territory of this Baltic stub makes NG fighters serving in the army ...
    PS: there is a lot of propaganda, knowledge is 0, and then we are surprised that everyone is laughing ...
  8. 0
    21 September 2021 14: 22
    The United States as a whole does not see a state entity in Lithuania

    ***
    For them, what is Pennsylvanian, What is Lithuania ...
    ***
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  10. +1
    21 September 2021 14: 59
    The legal aspect of the presence of the Pennsylvania National Guard in Lithuania: the state is actually not recognized as sovereign


    And what is there to be surprised at, these are the occupation troops. And no one there and overseas about this is soared))
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  12. 0
    21 September 2021 15: 36
    They will help Lithuania exactly until it smells of fried, then quickly the monatas will be collected and home. First time or something. And only labuses will open a mitten with a question: ah ...... ?????
  13. -1
    21 September 2021 16: 02
    What, listen to it. lithuania-mitva. pachimu don't know?
    1. 0
      21 September 2021 16: 39
      Quote: Borisych
      What, listen to it. lithuania-mitva. pachimu don't know?

      Not only you, but every tenth American only knows.
  14. -1
    21 September 2021 17: 52
    It is necessary to consider the fact of cooperation of the National Guard with the Lithuanian Armed Forces not from the point of view of the loss of Lithuania's sovereignty, but to ask a question - the purpose of staying in Lithuania. Watching Wikipedia
    The National Guard can be activated in emergencies by a state governor to carry out various tasks within the country (disaster relief, maintaining law and order in the event of a riot and others), performing in such cases approximately the same functions as the internal troops. Also, by decision of the President of the United States of America, they can be used to support the US Army and Air Force, including outside the United States.
    .

    Further. Recent exercises of the Latvian army.
    https://youtu.be/MmnNPClPS-E
    Exercises in an urban setting. The question is - are they going to storm Moscow or Pskov and Kaliningrad? I don't think so. Trained against a non-, weakly or lightly armed enemy. Obviously not a regular army. Civilian population?
    Several years ago, it seems, in one of the English newspapers a forecast was given about a possible national conflict in Latvia. I forgot which newspaper it was published in, but I read it on the Delfi.lv portal.
    If we connect these events and present such a scenario. As a result of the provoked national conflict in the Baltics, local authorities, under the cover of the United States and NATO, create concentration camps for Russian residents. Moreover, not all Russians have Russian citizenship. What will Russia do? You can't defend without war. Imagine the howl that "patriots" and all sorts of oppositionists will raise inside Russia. (I put it in quotes, because this is the same 5th column, financed by the West).
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  16. -1
    22 September 2021 07: 34
    And only by a special decision of the President of the United States, the units of the national guard of the state can be used abroad, and in the case of "an urgent need to provide assistance to the army units of the United States of America."

    The article is far-fetched. US NG forces have participated in most of the US Army's operations (battles) overseas.
    NG was created long before the appearance of the US Army and the US itself ....
    Minuteman - a man with a gun, ready to defend public order at a "minute readiness" - this image of the American "patriot" is captured in paintings and sculptures, on the pages of history books and on the official emblem of the US National Guard. The oldest army units in the National Guard (and the entire American army) are the 101st Engineer Battalion, the 101st Field Artillery Regiment, the 181st Infantry Regiment, and the 182nd Infantry Regiment - the descendants of three militia regiments organized by the colonial law of Massachusetts. 13 декабря 1636 года... In 1824, the New York People's Militia began to be called the National Guard - another borrowing from France - in honor of the French Guard and the Marquis de Lafayette. By 1903, when the US Congress passed the law on the regular military training of the "people's militia", they began to call it that everywhere.

    https://maxpark.com/community/5134/content/5168926