The ex-president of Georgia announced the benefits of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline for Ukraine

Former President of Georgia Mikhail Saakashvili said that the completion of the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline should be seen as beneficial for Ukraine. At the moment, Saakashvili, we recall, is the head of the executive committee of the Ukrainian reform committee. Earlier, under the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, for some time he served as head of the Odessa Regional State Administration. He is wanted by the Georgian authorities as a person involved in several criminal cases, including the case of abuse of office.

According to Mikhail Saakashvili, the benefit of Nord Stream 2 for Ukraine is that now the country "will have the opportunity to focus on producing its own gas." The ex-head of the Odessa Regional State Administration added that now Ukrainians will not only become more active in producing their own gas, but will also learn to save it. Thus, Saakashvili made it clear that in recent years Ukraine has been using gas of foreign (Russian) origin to a greater extent, and this use has been very wasteful.

At the same time, Saakashvili said that in the long term, the SP-2 gas pipeline is a "terrible thing":

In the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine, the West will simply refuse to support the Ukrainian side. This is the danger of the gas pipeline. But, as I said, now there will be some economic benefits from it.

We will remind that earlier in Kiev it was stated that in recent decades, Moscow "prevented Ukraine from producing its own gas." And now, supposedly, Ukraine has gained freedom in terms of producing its own gas.

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[Finches]

Mishiko will not grind nonsense - a serious man!

[Lech from Android.]

- a serious man!

Bites with a tie ... yes, runs on the rooftops ... not everyone reaches such heights of perfection.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lech from Android.

reaches such heights

Runs well on rooftops! Here !

[Pereira]

How many of us are capable of this? And only Polonsky could gobble up the tie. Here they are our idols.

[210ox]

You do not understand. This is the same parka-fashionable entertainment of many suicides.

[usr01]

a serious man!

Uh-t-exactly! When they were "greeted" in Odessa, they hung ties all over the center ... seriously ... like an adult!

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Why are you ashamed - his surname is Sukashvili ... or else some Mishiko ...

[rocket757]

The ex-head of the Odessa Regional State Administration added that now Ukrainians will not only become more active in producing their own gas, but will also learn to save it

... That's right, we started - SCREW!

[Pessimist22]

Well, what, they themselves will export gas to Europe through their own pipe, double benefit, they will get rich.

[Silver bullet]

I'm waiting on the sale of Mishka Sahak candy in the north

[210ox]

Nafig is needed here. Feed him from the budget.

[abrakadabre]

Feed him from the budget.

Why feed? Let him feed himself. Unless to cut out a used car tire for him a tie on duty ...

[knn54]

-And now, supposedly, Ukraine has gained freedom in terms of producing its own gas. I'm not talking about the suspended wells.
And who interfered, during the Soviet era, they mined up to 70 billion.
It is necessary not only to remove the supervisory board, but in general the "Black Hole" - "Naftogaz",

[Lech from Android.]

It is necessary not only to remove the supervisory board, but in general the "Black Hole" - "Naftogaz",

You are encroaching on the holy ...

[CommanderDIVA]

At one time, the Americans wanted to extract shale gas in the eastern part of Ukraine by the method of hydraulic fracturing, there they even organized a joint company for this business, well, natural gas production on the shelf of the Ukrainian part of the Black Sea, there are no more opportunities for gas production in Ukraine, and according to calculations experts, Ukrainians would have to buy gas anyway, their reserves will not be enough, most likely after December 2024, when the contract with Gazprom for pumping transit gas from Russia to Europe ends.The Ukrainian population and industrial enterprises are waiting for European gas prices, now they are not much different from Russian

[Egoza]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

there are no more opportunities for gas production in Ukraine, and according to experts' estimates, the Ukrainians would still have to buy gas, their reserves will not be enough,

You are not entirely correct. The volumes of natural gas in Ukraine can freely fully provide the population. And the price for the population is naturally different then. But there is not enough gas for the industry, it must be purchased abroad, but then "the owners of factories, newspapers, ships" must pay for it. And the price is appropriate ... The point is that the "home" cheap gas went to the oligarchs, and the purchased gas - to the population. And so far, everything remains in effect.
As for shale gas, Biden's little son was frolicking there. However, I cannot clarify that the contracts stipulated that the population should be resettled and compensation paid. To extract - "we agree!", And to resettle and compensate - "dumb." And the samples showed that there was a minuscule amount of that gas.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

For industry, no.

Does it still exist or?

[Brturin]

Still, it occurs in some places, in some places it is no longer found, in some places it is privatized ... in Odessa - “Following the sale of the property complex of the Odessavinprom plant from open tenders, we are preparing to hold an auction in October-November for the privatization of Belgorod-Dnestrovsky and Ust-Dunaisky seaports, as well as to lease large facilities in two other seaports "- head of the regional department of the Federal State Property Fund Alexander Slavsky

[Brturin]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

industrial enterprises are waiting for European gas prices

why are they waiting, they are already now, almost (with a surcharge) European ... Odessa Port Plant (OPZ)

"Today they stopped urea, tomorrow they will stop production of ammonia," the company says. It is noted that due to the rise in gas prices, the plant's products are becoming too expensive and uncompetitive. "The price of gas has risen sharply. And the company <...> Agro Gas Trading now refuses to supply gas to the OPZ. It is simply unprofitable for it, the price goes off scale for $ 1000 with the company's markup. Accordingly, the price of products has also increased. Of course, it has become uncompetitive, no one wants to take it. Urea is stuffed with all the storages to the eyeballs, "the workers explained.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The ex-president of Georgia announced the benefits of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline for Ukraine

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Ukraine will finally jump off the Russian gas needle
to the western credit enema ...
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[210ox]

And then the enema with needles ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

And then the enema with needles ..

For an amateur!

[abrakadabre]

to the western credit enema ...

What are you, really, politically correct. To call a product from a sex shop, from the shelves of BDSM with a medical term

[askort154]

At the moment, Saakashvili, we recall, is the head of the executive committee of the Ukrainian reform committee. Earlier, under the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, for some time he served as head of the Odessa Regional State Administration

The most valuable manager for modern Ukraine.

He is wanted by the Georgian authorities as a person involved in several criminal cases, including the case of abuse of office.

It seems that Georgia does not know that there is a state "Ukraine", where their Sahak is hiding.

[Pensive Lawyer]

Georgia knows, Ukraine is not giving back.

[Retvizan 8]

... "The West will simply refuse to support the Ukrainian side" ...
And Georgia did not have "JV 2" and that the West supported Georgia in the military conflict with Russia? So you are chasing something "great Georgian analyst" from the reform committee in Ukraine.

[Boromir1941]

Why are they posting this nonsense here?

[rotmistr60]

the benefit of Nord Stream 2 for Ukraine is that now the country has "It will be possible to focus on the production of its own gas"

And before that there was no such opportunity? Saakashvili mentally became a Ukrainian - out of any zeal to make an override their characteristic feature. Well, and a true Ukrainian is simply obliged to recite this pattern at least three times a day.

In the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

If Ukrainians eat peas more often, they will learn how to extract "their own gas". Undoubtedly.

[Egoza]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

If Ukrainians eat peas more often, they will learn how to extract "their own gas". Undoubtedly.

Duc crop failure today! ))) Already boiled borsch with sprat!

[mark1]

Quote: Egoza

Borscht with sprat is already being boiled!

I haven’t tried it, but I would venture to suggest that in terms of gas, borscht with sprat is very promising.

[Bolt cutter]

borscht with sprat is very promising.

Do not belittle the dish of the cuisine of the peoples of the USSR - borscht with canned sprat "in tomato" is a delicious thing .

[Nyrobsky]

In his forecasts, Mishiko does not take into account several important factors that will prevent Ukraine from abandoning the rusting plow of an agrarian power and becoming a gas granary.
1) Any money allocated by Ukraine (or an investor) for additional geological exploration and drilling of new wells will be stolen, and therefore one cannot do without a foreign contractor.
2) In 2014-2015, foreign contractors Chevron and Shell have already "buried" Ukrainian gas fields in the region of Luhansk and Ivano-Frankivsk, but in view of the fact that these gas "pies" were not very "fat" this venture and left, not even bothering with the removal of their equipment is unprofitable.
How many, of course, puppies will be able to extract, but this production is unlikely to cover the needs.

[Retvizan 8]

... "added that now the Ukrainians will be more active in producing their own gas" ... 
And then Ostap suffered: "Ukrainians will begin to actively extract their own gas, oil, uranium, gold, platinum, diamonds and grow trees on which rolls and sausages will grow"!

[Egoza]

Quote: Retvizan 8

"Ukrainians will begin to actively extract their own gas, oil, uranium, gold, platinum, diamonds and grow trees on which rolls and sausages will grow!"

and we are also planning to plant our own flag on the moon! (While the Dovzhenko film studio is still breathing, it is quite possible))))

[Petro_tut]

to extract their own gas, oil, uranium, gold, platinum, diamonds and grow trees on which rolls and sausages will grow! "

Sometimes ironic comments unknowingly get to the point - in Ukraine, trees grow from the fruits of which you can make flour for baking, there are deposits of uranium 238, I personally saw samples, gold is present in the form of sedimentary rocks, oil fields, oddly enough, are the same, though not in export volumes, but with gas, there is one topic that has not yet been discussed ...
And yes, I'm not from Ukraine, if anything, I just loved geography in the Soviet school

[Borisych]

"In the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine, the West will simply refuse to support the Ukrainian side." What is the Ukrainian side? There is no side, neither Ukrainian, nor Georgian, nor Uzbek or Nazarbayev. This is all nonsense of the thieving tops of power. Without Russia you are nobody and you can be called nothing.

[riwas]

Here is a good article on SP-2.
http://k-politika.ru/najden-vinovnyj-v-gazovom-krizise-v-evrope/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
It turns out that GAZPROM pumped an additional 109 million cubic meters per day, except for the 40 million cubic meters per day (or 15 billion cubic meters per year) laid down in the contract, for all months. That is, Gazprom pumped more along the Ukrainian route to Europe, although it was not obliged to do so. In addition, it comes out more expensive and unprofitable: Ukrainians apply a tariff with an increased coefficient to the transit of additional volumes.
In September alone, Gazprom refused to auction these additional Ukrainian capacities for 15 million cubic meters per day.
For eight and a half months of 2021, Gazprom supplied 138,6 billion cubic meters, which is close to the record level of 141,3 billion cubic meters in the same period of 2018. Compared to 2020, supplies increased by 17,4% or 20,6 billion cubic meters. In the remaining time, Gazprom has every chance of reaching the record volume of supplies in 2018.
So Gazprom is not to blame for the current gas prices, and in vain Europe considers it to be to blame for the current energy crisis. Gas prices in Asia are higher and all LNG went there.

[max702]

The main reason for the rise in price is helicopter money poured into the economy during the pandemic .. It was they who inflated prices for everything real .. Well, stock speculators also put their hand to pushing gas sales mainly on the spot ..

[Peter is not the first]

It turns out that GAZPROM pumped an additional 109 million cubic meters per day, except for the 40 million cubic meters per day (or 15 billion cubic meters per year) laid down in the contract, during all months.

The fact that Gazprom pumped an additional volume of 15 million cubic meters was never concealed anywhere. But it is important here that Gazprom suddenly stopped booking these additional capacities from Ukraine, and, accordingly, stopped pumping them.
But from the point of view of Europeans, this is not important, since the culprit of the price increase has already been appointed, regardless of the amount of fault, and it is the Russian Gazprom: "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat."

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Slyushayte, I will tell you a Georgian naron wisdom about Ukrainian own gazodobichu: in order for a cow davl to be bigger than Malako, it just needs to be milked more!

[Ivan Kovalier]

“Recall that earlier in Kiev they said that in recent decades Moscow“ prevented Ukraine from producing its own gas. ”And now, supposedly, Ukraine has gained freedom in terms of producing its own gas.

[tralflot1832]

Duc Chinese, they are looking for can not find in ukraine. Ukrainians love chants, we learn: Autogen-Wagon-China !!!

[APASUS]

Lack of gas, will make the Clown wiggle his brains and real reforms will take place? Saakashvili can hardly be called a fool, but he hopes in vain ................ as long as the grass grows in Ukraine, no one is going to think with their brains.

[Two]

What a fringe marginal cannabis! That only does not stick into the head!

[Shaman]

Yeah own gas - fart.

[Maikcg]

and learn to save it

I didn't lie. It is simple and convenient to save what is not there.

[isv000]

In the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine, the West will simply refuse to support the Ukrainian side.

Misha knows what he is talking about, he still tries not to wear ties ...

[svoit]

that now Ukrainians will not only become more active in producing their own gas, but will also learn how to save it

it's hard to argue whether high prices motivate to develop their own gas production, and if industrial gas consumption is reduced (why do they need industry at all? you do not need a lot of gas for heating, in Ukraine it is still noticeably warmer than in Russia. It seems that there is no centralized heating supply in Spain at all and they live no worse than the Ukrainians. And pipes in general need to be sold, why do they need such a diameter?