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Norway felt that Russia lacked openness in conducting military exercises

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Norway felt that Russia lacked openness in conducting military exercises

The West is watching with concern the strengthening of Russian defense power, while expressing their dissatisfaction. In particular, Norway felt that Russia lacked openness in conducting the West 2021 military exercises.


According to the Norwegian state television and radio company NRK, this idea was expressed by the head of the defense department of this Scandinavian state, Frank Bakke-Jensen.

We call on Russia to be open about the teachings

- he said.

Jensen believes that transparency and predictability are necessary to prevent misunderstandings between Russia and NATO that could lead to an accidental escalation.

The Minister noted the growing activity of the Russian Armed Forces near the northern and southern borders of Norway, noting that Oslo, together with NATO allies, is monitoring the situation.

The Zapad-2021 exercise is larger than the Zapad-2017 exercise. And this year, the maneuvers stretch further west and east than before.

- said with alarm the representative of the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Norway, Elisabeth Eikeland.

Earlier, the head of the North Atlantic Alliance, Jens Stoltenberg, also called on Russia to be more predictable. He reproached Moscow for non-fulfillment of international obligations and concealment of the details of its maneuvers.

The secretary general did not dwell on how NATO is being treated with their obligations and international norms. And it would be very interesting to listen to ...
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  1. Cheshire
    Cheshire 18 September 2021 12: 59
    +11
    They croaked so as not to forget about their existence. Scary, already horror.
    1. knn54
      knn54 18 September 2021 13: 19
      +3
      To drink, to feed, and to sit at the same table with (I'm not afraid of this word) with the enemies ?:
      1. RealPilot
        RealPilot 18 September 2021 13: 40
        +8
        Norway felt that Russia lacked openness in conducting military exercises

        Tell them everything, show them and give them a try? lol
        Actually, our army is learning to resist potential adversaries. What did they think? We are not going to teach them how to kill us!
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 18 September 2021 14: 29
          +5
          I am embarrassed to ask, did anyone invite Norway to speak out about the transparency of the exercises? Better to discuss the transparency of panties with their boys and girls, that's how anyone likes it. But they don't come to us
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 September 2021 15: 57
            +5
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            I'm embarrassed to ask, did anyone invite Norway to speak out about the transparency of the exercises?

            In fact, Stoltenberg in Norway is not an ordinary political figure. - and this is in addition to the fact that he is the NATO Secretary General.
            First, he offspring of one of the most influential families in Norway, who have been referred to in the press as "Norwegian Kennedy" for decades.
            Jens father - Torvald Stoltenberg - was the leader of the ruling People’s WORKING PARTY of Norway, was a member of parliament, several times received ministerial posts - from the Minister of Defense to the chief of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. His mother Karin also worked in the government and at one time led the foreign trade of Norway, then oversaw the work of the Ministry of Social Policy. Another clan member - The multi-station minister, Johan Holst, who led the military department, the police, and foreign policy.
            But rthe main secret of the power of "Norwegian Kennedy" lies in their wives: sisters Karina (mother of Jens Stoltenberg) and Marianne They are representatives of the richest Heiberg family in the country, bankers and industrialists.

            The Heibergs' star has risen during WWIIwhen the regime of Vidkun Quisling, loyal to the Third Reich, was established in Norway. Axel Heiberg Steng, one of Quisling's closest advisors. It is thanks to Quisling with the appearance of a typical Aryan aristocrat all the factories, mines and mines belonging to the clan members were provided with free labor - prisoners of Norwegian concentration camps, usually Soviet prisoners of war.

            During the WWII, the Norwegian mines worked in 3 shifts, because the Wehrmacht military machine desperately needed iron ore, copper, nickel, non-ferrous metals, and sulfur. AND the price of uninterrupted operation of the mines - 13 thousand Red Army prisoners of war who died from overwork (in total, according to our historians, in the Nazi concentration camps in Norway, up to 75 thousand Soviet prisoners of war were kept).

            Secondlydespite all this wealth of the Norwegian Kennedms, Jens Stoltenberg - following the example of daddy, too, in his youth, he first got involved in politics with the left movement and on his own initiative offered his services to the KGB - and as a result turned out to be a former KGB agent named "Steklov", which was betrayed, in particular, by the Soviet traitor to the Motherland and the defector Gordievsky, but Jens - unlike his supporters and followers - categorically abandoned his left-proletarian political views and easily got out in this revelatory and reconnaissance mess of the defector Gordievsky, as befits rich offspring, "dry from the water."

            И now Jones Stoltenberg (with his skeleton in the closet) faithfully serves not only his family clan of the military-industrial complex in Norway, but also his new masters in the United States.
  2. demiurg
    demiurg 18 September 2021 13: 03
    +5
    In vain, the Red Army liberated Norway from the Nazis.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 18 September 2021 13: 08
      +12
      Quote: demiurg
      In vain, the Red Army liberated Norway from the Nazis

      In vain then I gave it to the Anglo-Saxons.
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara 20 September 2021 03: 50
        0
        There was not enough strength and desire for a normal cleanup, that's a pity, a lot of nasty falling left to live
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 September 2021 13: 05
    +6
    We call on Russia to be open about the teachings

    In addition to Hitler, no one attacked Norway, and is not going to attack, breathe evenly and into the pillow.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 18 September 2021 14: 03
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Except for Hitler, no one attacked Norway, and is not going to attack,

      How did it not attack? USSR every year, or even twice a year ... There is even an official video of the debacle:

      There, Medvedev barely bought off Norway with one hundred and seventy-five thousand square kilometers of sea territory ...
      wassat lol
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 September 2021 14: 13
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        There, Medvedev barely bought off Norway with one hundred and seventy-five thousand square kilometers of sea territory.

        So here it is more likely not Russia as the aggressor, but Norway.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 18 September 2021 14: 19
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          So here it is more likely not Russia as the aggressor, but Norway.

          By the way, it was Santa Claus sarcasm! Yes Yes...

          © "Masha and the Bear"
          repeat
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 September 2021 15: 44
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            © "Masha and the Bear"

            And as always Norway played the role of "Masha" and Dimon played the role of "bear". Interesting characters.
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  5. Stas Sv
    Stas Sv 18 September 2021 13: 09
    +8
    Did they overeat there henbane? A detailed map, means of communication, frequencies, number of vehicles, volleys, etc. etc. should they also be provided? Lavrov said correctly in his time ..... well, you understand what I mean.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 18 September 2021 13: 24
      +8
      Quote: Stas Sv
      A detailed map, means of communication, frequencies, number of vehicles, volleys, etc. etc. should they also be provided?

      It is enough to show one photo ...

      Another representative of the conditional enemy on the Zapad-2021 SSU, this time as a not the cheapest target - T-80U.
      White stripe in the center, does not resemble anything ...? wink
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 September 2021 13: 13
    +9
    In Norway, the Norwegian Workers 'Party (Study, fighters for workers' rights in Russia) won the elections with a margin of 6% from the ruling party. more with the mining industry, they have a problem. The Norgs have become accustomed to living with dignity. We must also see how the winning party treats migrants. For the last time I learned a lot about myself from a Norwegian woman with African roots. And I just said in Russian: Look what interesting descendants of the Vikings in Norway, and the entire dance ensemble from Georgia, who asked for political asylum, was exiled to their historical homeland after the camp.
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 September 2021 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And the whole dance ensemble from Georgia, who asked for political asylum, was exiled to their historical homeland after the camp.

      Why not be a refugee in Norway, the conditions there are much better than those working in Georgia:
      “The state spends more than 100 thousand kroons per day per camp resident. And upon granting refugee status and moving to permanent residence, one person receives 2800 kroons per month, a married couple - 4600 kroons, a mother and two children - about 6 thousand NOK. in the amount of 20 thousand kroons is received by a foreigner who travels to his homeland. "
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 18 September 2021 14: 35
        +1
        Average course $ 7 - 9 CZK.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 September 2021 15: 51
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Average course $ 7 - 9 CZK.

          This is despite the fact that they do not pay for housing, training and plus weekly packages with groceries, well, catch cod for free in any quantity. In Lodingen, two married couples lived, so they were given a house for two families, with furniture and appliances.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 18 September 2021 15: 53
            +1
            Honestly, the frame house is expensive, I looked closely.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 18 September 2021 16: 10
              +1
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Honestly, the frame house is expensive, I looked closely.

              Even by European standards - yes,
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 September 2021 14: 37
      +2
      I would draw your attention to the fact that Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary general, twice a former prime minister, is also from the Norwegian Workers' Party. Is he such a great friend of Russia?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 18 September 2021 15: 05
        +1
        But one of the slogans is normal relations with Russia. As for fish, we always have normal relations with them. But the significant Shtokmanovskoye field in our economic zone. The Norgs have technologies for gas production with a significant wave load. Gazprom began its development. At the Norgs in their zone, gas production is degrading, and they really want to eat. And the witch gave them an empty zone. In the USSR, the drilling ships Shashin and Muravlenko were drilled all over Barentsukha in search of gas and oil, the Sevgazonefterazvedka office, the office at the intersection of Lenin str. and Kirov. I know what I'm talking about.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 September 2021 16: 02
          +1
          Thanks for the information. So, there is no need to blame Medvedev indiscriminately?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 18 September 2021 16: 04
            +2
            Technology beyond the empty sea.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 18 September 2021 16: 09
              0
              I remember that at first the Norwegians seemed to be delighted with the hydrocarbons found there.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 18 September 2021 16: 25
                +1
                And when we tried to drill, but there is gas, but it is not profitable. Gas is in industrial volumes in our zone. I left the Murmansk region in 2007. A site for an LNG plant was identified, a lot of money was thrown in. Everything went to the development of Shtokman. Then, Statoil was partnerom.A then Maidan and ponoslas.Stokman mothballed until better vremeni.Tsena housing soared 2,5 times because of Gazprom.
          2. alch3mist
            alch3mist 18 September 2021 22: 59
            -1
            Thanks for the information. So, there is no need to blame Medvedev indiscriminately?

            The main wealth of the Barents Sea is biological resources! There are no fish to the east, but in the Barents Sea it teems. So it was no accident that they were pushing.
            And you can search for the history of Norwegian swine on "Norway White Sea seals" or just read:
            https://www.kramola.info/vesti/metody-genocida/mirolyubivye-norvezhcy-i-tyulenya-voyna
            https://fishretail.ru/news/norvegtsi-lobbiruyut-boynyu-tyulenya-v-belom-more-greenpeace-molchit-403141
    4. your1970
      your1970 18 September 2021 23: 01
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In Norway, the Norwegian Workers 'Party (Study, fighters for workers' rights in Russia) won the elections with a margin of 6% from the ruling party. One of the points of the election campaign is to establish business relations with Russia.

      were already in power
      Quote: Tatiana
      In fact, Stoltenberg in Norway is not an ordinary political figure - and this is in addition to the fact that he is the NATO Secretary General.
      First, he is the offspring of one of the most influential families in Norway, who have been referred to in the press as the "Norwegian Kennedy" for decades.
      Jens' father - Torvald Stoltenberg - was a leader the ruling People's Labor Party of Norway, entered parliament, several times received ministerial posts - from the Minister of Defense to the Chief of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
  7. Vakcin
    Vakcin 18 September 2021 13: 31
    +4
    We call on Russia to be open about the teachings

    And what makes you so annoying norgi .. I remember we freed you from the Nazis and you left the mines and started counting the losses for each broken tree .. And presenting to the Soviet Army (I read a Soviet officer's memoirs) The horror was just from their claims to us .. And now again?
  8. poquello
    poquello 18 September 2021 13: 39
    +2
    oh yes Stultemberg! like "I will be rude to you, but you warn me when you start to beat"
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 18 September 2021 14: 13
      +1
      After the resignation, the stopon will have to carry the true Vikings into the donkey as a taxi driver, I don’t envy.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 September 2021 16: 21
        +1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        After the resignation, the stopon will have to carry the true Vikings into the donkey as a taxi driver, I don’t envy.

        Such people will never be taxi drivers, depending on his positions in the government, he always has a good place even in Norway.
        Jens Stoltenberg began his career as Minister of Trade and Energy in the government of Gro Harlem Bruntland (1993-1996), and in the government of Thorbjørn Jagland (1996-1997) as Minister of Finance.
        From 1997 to 2000, Jens Stoltenberg chaired the fuel and energy policy committee in the Norwegian parliament.
        Finally, in March 2000, Stoltenberg climbed the career ladder even higher - he became prime minister.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 18 September 2021 16: 27
          +1
          It seems that he was not a bad guy until the face-to-face conversation with Putin was leaked to the press.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 September 2021 16: 46
            +1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            It seems that he was not a bad guy until the face-to-face conversation with Putin was leaked to the press.

            Rather, he was always a "bad guy", only painted in a Marxist color, while remaining a wolf in sheep's clothing.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 18 September 2021 17: 16
              0
              For 4 years Bergen was home, I went to see a house in the suburbs. Sochi in front of Bergen, resting. The house is $ 200, but the view is where you had to meet old age. Now I can't imagine how much it costs. However, balls.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 18 September 2021 18: 08
                0
                Quote: tralflot1832
                Sochi in front of Bergen, resting. The house is $ 200, but the view is where you had to meet old age.

                Oh, as I understand you, I myself went to Norway for several years, I walked through all the fish factories, amazing places, that's where a small house and a boat would be to catch cod.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 18 September 2021 18: 16
                  +1
                  The back side of the canyons. There is a common descent. The trout is not measured. With neighbors in the PINE site. In front of you is 200 meters of undergrowth, overlooking the Atlantic and no asphalt 200 meters to your house. drinks
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 September 2021 13: 51
    0
    Jensen believes that transparency and predictability are necessary to prevent misunderstandings between Russia and NATO that could lead to an accidental escalation.

    And here in Russia, first Gorbachev, and after him and Jensen, sorry, Yeltsin, in order to increase predictability, allowed NATO to expand right to the borders of the Russian Federation ...
    Probably, so that the Russian Strategic Missile Forces (RViA) do not miss and touch the non-aligned power, which would lead to an accidental escalation ...
    And today our good neighbors every morning, when they hear the command "Rise!" In the Russian garrisons, begin to "escalate" in unison. What can we do if they want to? wassat
  10. cniza
    cniza 18 September 2021 14: 01
    +2
    The Minister noted the growing activity of the Russian Armed Forces near the northern and southern borders of Norway, noting that Oslo, together with NATO allies, is monitoring the situation.


    And do not forget to follow yourself, especially your main one, otherwise it is not even an hour, they will start internal disassembly ...
  11. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 18 September 2021 14: 01
    +1
    There is the most omnipotent organization - "Sportloto", you write there, complain))
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 18 September 2021 14: 10
    0
    transparency and predictability are essential to ensure that no misunderstandings arise between Russia and NATO,
    ... There will always be contradictions, but at the expense of openness ... there is such a thing, it is unlikely that excessive secrecy is so needed now.
    1. bar
      bar 18 September 2021 14: 32
      0
      it is unlikely that excessive secrecy is so needed now

      Excessive predictability is needed even less. You can't let your enemies relax. Let them watch soldier
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 September 2021 15: 14
        0
        A double-edged sword ... then put on a squeal from the other side. On the other hand, if they don’t see, they don’t cut through what they needed to be shown, because they were not ready, they looked in the wrong direction ... then it turns out to be empty chores.
  13. bar
    bar 18 September 2021 14: 28
    0

    Jensen believes that transparency and predictability are essential to ensure that no misunderstandings arise between Russia and NATO that could lead to an accidental escalation.

    Let this Jensen, in terms of predictability, start with himself and with his NATO
  14. gurzuf
    gurzuf 18 September 2021 17: 49
    0
    sad Not open enough? In such a case, let them provide us with their territories for our military exercises. lol
  15. wandlitz
    wandlitz 18 September 2021 19: 02
    0
    The head of the Norwegian defense department, Frank Bakke-Jensen, clearly did not read Ilf and Petrov. There is an exact answer to such claims - Maybe give the key to the apartment, where the money is?
  16. Borisych
    Borisych 19 September 2021 12: 02
    +1
    We opened donkey's canned food. The teachings ended long ago, lords of the fjords.
  17. Maikcg
    Maikcg 19 September 2021 12: 39
    0
    When the Zapad-2022 exercise takes place in Norway, there will be complete openness. In the meantime, everyone is in the garden.
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 September 2021 17: 14
    -1
    The exercises would be "open" enough if they were commanded by NATO generals! And that's not quite. laughing
  19. 123456789
    123456789 20 September 2021 07: 33
    0
    Norway felt that Russia lacked openness in conducting the West 2021 military exercises.

    Doctor, my husband suffers from premature ejaculation ... Husband: - I suffer ?! It is she who suffers. laughing From the practice of a sexologist.