US press: F-35 may not keep pace with the upgrade of the Russian and Chinese air defense

The fifth generation fighter F-35, already recognized as the most expensive weapon system today, may simply not keep pace with the updates of the Russian and Chinese air defense. Writes about this the author of an article for the American edition of Bloomberg Anthony Capaccio.

The US Congress expressed dissatisfaction with the F-35 fighter program due to "slow evolution and extraordinary costs." The House of Representatives Committee on the Armed Forces expressed concerns that the aircraft will soon fail to meet modern requirements for new anti-aircraft systems developed in Russia and China.

Simply put, while Lockheed Martin is "finishing" the F-35, air defense will take a step forward and the most expensive weapons system in the world today risks being left out of work. The declared capabilities of the fighter to overcome enemy air defense systems are still available only on paper, and in order to obtain them, the fighter needs to receive the next "key updates", for which, of course, additional funds are required.

In a 2022 budget report, a House committee supported an additional $ 35 billion for the F-398 program. All of this amount will be used for purchases to improve the aircraft. At the same time, doubts are expressed that the aircraft will eventually receive the promised combat capabilities.

Thus, despite significant expenditures over 20 years, the F-35 still has not received the promised capabilities. The development of air defense systems of potential adversaries may lead to the fact that the aircraft in the future will not be able to "adequately withstand" the expected threats, the author sums up.

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[Orange bigg]

Saw Shura saw, they are golden.

[svp67]

Quote: OrangeBigg

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Have you visited "Abyrvalg"?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: svp67

Quote: OrangeBigg

ETILIP AKCHORUSH ETILIP

Have you visited "Abyrvalg"?

What?

Quote: OrangeBigg

Saw Shura saw, they are golden.

[svp67]

Quote: OrangeBigg

What?

Read Bulgakov and his "Heart of a Dog"

[Orange bigg]

Well, okay.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Saw Shura saw, they are golden.

[Thunderbolt]

Abyrvalg smoothly flows into a "piranha hunt" ....

[Finches]

Air defense motto: "We do not fly ourselves and do not give to others!"

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Finches

Air defense motto: "We do not fly ourselves and do not give to others!"

This is the motto of the F-35. And they themselves do not fly and other fighter models are not allowed to fly, since all the money for the purchase of their beloved ones (F-35) has been spent.

[Finches]

What can not but rejoice!

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Finches

What can not but rejoice!

What is the strong air defense of the United States in the person of the F-35. Corresponds to the motto.

[Grits]

The media often write that the S-400 can easily see the F-35. Then it turns out that others (S-300, Buk, etc.) do not see, or what? Air defense men, please enlighten us.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Gritsa

The media often write that the S-400 can easily see the F-35. Then it turns out that others (S-300, Buk, etc.) do not see, or what? Air defense men, please enlighten us.

This has been said many times.

. The first American "stealth" - bombers F-117, for a long time were positioned by American propaganda as absolutely invisible aircraft. The problem was that stealth technologies are effective only in a limited "corridor" of possibilities. If the entire enemy air defense system operates in the X-band (8-12 GHz), then there is no problem - fly yourself and use missiles. But if the enemy's radar operates on ultrashort waves (30 MHz - 3 GHz), which are used in the S-400 and in other Russian air defense systems, then we cannot speak of any stealth in principle. The essence of the work of Russian radars, if you do not go into details, is as follows: several radars from different directions "fire" the airspace with thousands of small impulses, which is why the movement of the target can be observed in real time as a bright point on the overview screen.

In the S-400 division, several such radars can work. They exchange data with each other, so all parameters of the target are tracked even by those calculations that initially did not even know about the arrival of the target in the affected area.

But on other occasions, you need to worry absolutely. For example, flights of American fighters near Kamchatka are monitored by Russian air defense systems every time. The 477 Combat Group of the US Air Force, stationed in Alaska, is known to Russian anti-aircraft gunners almost by name.

In addition to the F-35 fighters, which from time to time appear in the region of the Pacific coast of Russia, the S-400 operators actively studied the features of the F-22 fighters, the design of which is still protected by the US government as well as the codes for nuclear weapons.

Taking into account the fact that the target detection range of the next generation S-500 air defense system will increase by about 250 kilometers, and the maximum target detection height will be about 180 kilometers, the top secret stamp on the drawings with American F-22 / F-35 will turn into a Punchinelle secret. and will be available to everyone, and the S-500 crews will receive information about the appearance of American fighters already at the moment when the car will take off from the runway.

It is not yet clear how the American military will get out of this situation - there is simply nothing to replace the F-22 and F-35, and orders for these machines will not allow them to abandon the production of cars in the next few years. The fear of the Russian S-400 and S-500 is similar to the effect of an antidote or a vaccine - where Russian missiles appear, American fighters almost immediately disappear.

https://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/54246-molniya-idyot-v-otkaz-pochemu-rossiyskie-s-400-smertelno-opasny-dlya-f-35/

[voyaka uh]

We just forgot to mention that both the F-35 and the F-22 on non-combat, patrol flights
fly with Luneberg lenses that increase their EPR by tens and hundreds of times.
No wonder they are seen by any Russian air defense radars.

[Grits]

Thanks for your review. The truth is not clear - do the F-22 and F-35 see our other systems without prompting from the S-400 and S-500? Nothing is said about this in your article.
And yet - I am tormented by vague doubts that the S-500 will see F-22s taking off from Alaska almost at the moment of separation from the runway. After all, the curvature of the Earth does not allow you to see beyond 400 km. In the complex, it stands on the ground and does not jump up. And we do not have the required number of AWACS planes.

[svp67]

Here it is the reverse side of mass character ... Now try to carry out modernization work on all produced aircraft quickly and in a timely manner.

[Borik]

The measures themselves openly admit that the superplane turns out to be not that great and that it is necessary to match it with a few more green pieces of paper to be invested in it so that it, in their opinion, surpasses its competitors at times.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Borik

The measures themselves openly admit that the superplane turns out to be not that great and that it is necessary to match it with a few more green pieces of paper to be invested in it so that it, in their opinion, surpasses its competitors at times.

Let's see. While flying to itself on the sly.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 11: 05
,,,,Let's see. While flying to itself on the sly.

Look, look! Is Israel still the beloved wife of the Merkiatos? The French the other day were also like that! Yes, by the way, an airplane can also fly from A4 paper.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 11: 05
,,,,Let's see. While flying to itself on the sly.

Look, look! Is Israel still the beloved wife of the Merkiatos? The French the other day were also like that! Yes, by the way, an airplane can also fly from A4 paper.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 11: 33
.....

"Russian President Vladimir Putin compared Russia's enemies with Sherkhan, around which the tobacco swirls. He made such a statement on April 21 in ... "I have nothing more to add!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Russian President Vladimir Putin compared Russia's enemies with Sherkhan, around which the tobacco swirls. He made such a statement on April 21 in ... "I have nothing more to add!

Well, still. What would you dare to argue with your president.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 03: 34
Well, still. laughing What would you dare to argue with your president. lol

is it you "mind" , and I have nothing to add to what he announced!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 03: 34
Well, still. laughing What would you dare to argue with your president. lol

is it you "mind" , and I have nothing to add to what he announced!

Why should I object to him? This is your president. Let his thoughts interest you. And my opinion is parallel.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 09: 17

Is Israel still the beloved wife of the Merkiatos? The French the other day were also like that!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 09: 17

Is Israel still the beloved wife of the Merkiatos? The French the other day were also like that!

Have you ever been to France?

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 11: 46
Have you ever been to France?

this in a personal.

[Grits]

Quote: aszzz888

Yes, by the way, an airplane can fly from paper, size A

But no - this format (A4) is not the best for an airplane. The most optimal flight plane - from a notebook sheet

[aszzz888]

Gritsa (Alexander)
Yesterday, 15: 25
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Quote: aszzz888
Yes, by the way, an airplane can fly from paper, size A

But no - this format (A4) is not the best for an airplane. The most optimal flight plane - from a notebook sheet

Perhaps. But A4 flies perfectly - checked by the grandson!

[rotmistr60]

can simply not to keep up with the updates of the Russian and Chinese air defense

Does it have time today? The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation officially announced that our air defense sees the F-35, and if it sees it, it means it is ready to destroy.

supported the allocation to the F-35 program additionally 398 billion.

What they strive for, they get it. Money, money, money ...

[Sasha from Uralmash]

An old song about a little boy Johnny, who loved money very much! Even Uncle Sem can't have a lot of money! He also asks and will give it!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sasha from Uralmash

An old song about a little boy Johnny, who loved money very much! Even Uncle Sem can't have a lot of money! He also asks and will give it!

This is you in vain. Money is still counted there.

The F-35 program office has awarded Lockheed Martin a new service contract for the fifth-generation F-35 Lighting II fighter-bombers. Under the terms of the agreement, the cost of flights for aircraft in service with the US Armed Forces will be reduced by fiscal 2023. This is reported by the Flight Global portal.
The contract obliges to reduce the cost of an F-35A flight hour to $ 30 thousand, which is 10,7 percent less than the operating costs stipulated by the previous agreement. The cost savings are part of a 2021 aircraft maintenance agreement.
Flight Global emphasizes that the new contract brings Lockheed Martin closer to its intention to reduce the cost of an F-35A flight hour to $ 25 in 2025. In 2020, this amount was 33,6 thousand dollars.
Lockheed Martin said the F-35 mission completion rate worldwide has increased by 70 percent, and the cost of a flight hour has dropped by 44 percent over the past five years.
Earlier, US lawmakers supported an amendment to the bill on defense policy, which tied the number of aircraft purchased to the cost of their maintenance. Thus, operators will be able to purchase the planned number of F-35s only after reaching the target indicators for the cost of maintenance.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Das them Tannwald Finster East! Das maht! Das Holts! Das mein schatz! 1

[tralflot1832]

What's the matter with you, did you write in Russian?

[Grits]

Henede Hoh!

[Orange bigg]

Quote: seld

"... das Flugzeug den modernen Anforderungen der in Russland und China entwickelten neuen Flugabwehrsysteme bald nicht mehr genügen werde" - blablabla .... Kauderwelsch!
Auf welche Weise wurden beim Autor solche Konsequenzen gezogen? Aus eigenen Gefülllen? Der Autor habe Verstandniss von russischen Luftabwehrsystemen? Was vergleicht man namlich?
Bin selbst sicher dessen, Artikel habe man extra bestellt. Eben nämlich für Zwecke - blablabla .... Um Medienraum irgendwie zu erfüllen.

Russian translation.

... .., the aircraft will soon cease to meet the modern requirements of the new anti-aircraft systems developed in Russia and China "- blah blah .... gibberish!
How did the author have such consequences? From your own stuffed animals? Did the author understand what Russian air defense systems are? What are you comparing?
I myself am sure of this, the items were ordered additional. It is for the purpose-blablabla .... To somehow satisfy the media space

[prior]

It's good that the US has the F-35.
This is how much money down the drain for a fighter .......

[voyaka uh]

This is indeed a stroke of luck for the United States and NATO.
Hundreds of the latest 5th generation fighters for service are a striking success for the military industry.
Money is the second thing.
The B-29 was worth fantastic money at the time. But it paid off completely in the war.

[prior]

Of course it paid off, the Japanese will fully confirm.
Who is threatening your America and NATA? Why so many planes?

[voyaka uh]

You can ask exactly the same question for Russia.
Why so many planes, tanks, missiles?
NATO's ground forces are insignificant, there are few tanks - almost zero.
Against who?

The general answer is just in case.

[prior]

Sure sure.
NATO is not about Europe. NATO is about America.
And there are weapons, a rolling ball. No missiles, no planes, no submarines, no ships with "Tomahawks" .... Golyak. Take it with your bare hands. And most importantly, America is so peaceful, does not bother anyone in the world, does not threaten anyone, avoids wars and conflicts as much as possible.
Only shivers in front of the Russian threat.
And the rest is white and fluffy.
And this awful Russia invented machine guns, tanks, nuclear weapons, and jet aircraft.
Everything, everything to defenseless American heads ...

[tralflot1832]

F 35, participated in air battles, whom did you shoot down?

[voyaka uh]

Su 35 , participated in air battles, whom did you shoot down?

[tralflot1832]

Speech in the article about Pungwin, when there will be an article about SU 35, we will talk. I love your predictability, change the subject and answer a question with a question! In vain I had a boss, a Jew!

[76SSSR]

Su-35, participated in air battles, whom did you shoot down?

And where did you take part in the air battles of the Su-35? Something new for me, maybe I missed something ...

[voyaka uh]

Neither the F-35 nor the Su-35 took part in air battles and did not shoot down anyone.
Based on this must not conclude that these are bad airplanes.
This is what I tried to convey to the opponent "tralfrot", who does not understand that
such a science - formal logic.

[Reserve buildbat]

Precisely the bright success of the MILITARY INDUSTRY. This "penguin" industry is receiving windfall profits. And the fact that for the Air Force this is a bright failure is the little things. The main thing is industry income.

[Thunderbolt]

Thus, despite significant expenditures over 20 years, the F-35 still has not received the promised capabilities. The development of air defense systems of potential adversaries may lead to the fact that the aircraft in the future will not be able to "adequately withstand" the expected threats, sums up the author. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the main thing is the platform of a single battlefield. For example +++ cancer-interceptors from a long distance / F-35 super-duper /, tobish F-1 is above the fight. But even in a single fight, the head needs time to turn on and function. But this is not important, but STELS ---- it will be very difficult for a non-combined head to enter the target.

[voyaka uh]

With the F-35, everything is in order.

Its avionics are being updated very intensively. In Israel, a "dynamic stealth" is being developed for the F-35.
Changing the RCS from minimal to huge on the fly.
Which can go crazy for any air defense officer. Either a "birdie" is flying, or a B-52

[Silver Fox]

They will not be able to refuse it already. Even if the project fails completely. The total cost of the F-35 life cycle program is estimated at 1,727 trillion dollars in current dollars))) The F35 has not worked since the 1st day; they expect him to "evolve"; from poor performance to complete inoperability?

The only thing the F35 did well was that it extended its corruption to almost everyone in the US Congress. This was the secret of his success.

[tralflot1832]

If the last missile defense missile, which will eventually be placed on the S 500, carries out a kinetic interception (with a slingshot with a stone in the forehead) in space, the penguin has already lagged behind. will be on aliens.

[voyaka uh]

"In a hostile language, he flies but did not shoot down anyone, he did not participate in air combat" ///
----
As well as Russian fighters Su-35, MiG-35. They did not shoot down anyone, did not participate.
Does this mean that they are bad and worthless?

[tralflot1832]

Check out your comments about Drying and Moments.

[voyaka uh]

I have always praised and praise the Su-35 - one of the best 4th generation fighters in the world.
The MiG-29, a melee master, but with weak avionics, is cooler.

[S. Nikolaev]

"Does that mean they are bad and worthless?"
No, it doesn't. They correspond to the tasks for which they were created.

"The F-35 is all right."
Yes?
"The declared capabilities of the fighter to overcome enemy air defense systems are still available only on paper, and in order to obtain them, the fighter needs to receive the next" key updates ", for which, of course, additional funds are required. ..."
Some kind of nonsense turns out ...
Some of you are whistling - either Israel or you. By the way, don't you broadcast from there for an hour?

[Sands Careers General]

US press: F-35 may not keep pace with the upgrade of the Russian and Chinese air defense

Yes, and we already have the S-500 ready, and the Chinese are constantly rolling out something new, Eun is also not lagging behind))

[MTZ 80]

With 500 not yet in the army, LOL

[Sands Careers General]

On August 23, 2021, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov announced that the S-500 system is being mass-produced.

What's the LOL?