The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine commented on the issue of "possible" supplies of missile defense systems "Iron Dome" from the United States

The head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry commented on history with statements about Kiev's "intentions" to receive Israeli-made anti-missile defense systems from the United States. As reported by "Voennoye Obozreniye", Ukraine was going to receive from the United States the "Iron Dome" missile defense systems, which the Americans could not effectively integrate into their own air defense-missile defense system.

According to Dmitry Kuleba, head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, during President Zelensky's visit to the United States, the question was really raised of “how Washington could help Ukraine strengthen its air defense and missile defense”.

Kuleba:

We discussed the issue with our American colleagues in the format of such an agenda. Various technologies were discussed, which Ukraine could obtain or buy from the United States - with their assistance.

Against this background, information confusion reigns in the States themselves. On the one hand, Congress says they are making an amendment to the military budget for 2022. And this amendment, introduced by Congressman Scott Franklin, has allegedly already received support from both Republicans and Democrats. And supposedly on the basis of this amendment it will be possible to provide Ukraine with "components of the Iron Dome missile defense system."

And on the eve of the White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that she had no information that the United States is going to supply Ukraine with any anti-aircraft missile systems and their components, including an Israeli-made Iron Dome.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry declares that they intend to receive from the United States "components of the Iron Dome" system in order to defend against "Russian aggression." Experts believe that with the possible delivery of such systems, their operators will in any case be foreign military. The USA may well use this option to try to somehow "legitimize" the presence of its troops in Ukraine, including in the Donbass, where, as the Ukrainian military previously stated, foreign-made air defense systems can be supplied.

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[Dym71]

And on the eve of the White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that she had no information that the United States is going to supply Ukraine with any anti-aircraft missile systems and their components, including an Israeli-made Iron Dome.

And she often says so.
A lot of noise, nothing around, like with javelins - another provocation from the United States.
Much more interesting why?

the Americans could not effectively integrate into their own air defense-missile defense system

There, after all, their Raytheon took part in the development of the dome. Colleagues, Israelis, please answer, what do you think about this?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Dym71

And she often says so.

I remembered the anecdote, do not excuse me.
Divorce proceedings at the village club. The whole village has gathered, they are sitting.
The people's judge asks his still-wife:
- For what reason do you want to get a divorce?
Wife:
- It does not satisfy me.
Female voice from the audience:
- It satisfies everyone, but it does not satisfy her!
Male voice:
- And nobody satisfies her.

[Kushka]

The same - I omit the first half - the judge interrogated both sides,
found out the reason and asks a question to her husband:
- Have you tried to take the initiative?
- No.
-How do you feel about the traditional pose?
- I'm sliding.
- Well, try on your side!
- And so I can't see the TV!

[Tavor]

On the American side, most of the aid was in financing. Almost the entire complex was developed by the Raphael company from scratch.

[Terrible_L.]

The amendment, introduced by Congressman Scott Franklin, has allegedly already received support from both Republicans and Democrats. And supposedly on the basis of this amendment it will be possible to provide Ukraine with "components of the Iron Dome missile defense system"

Here, Scott ...

[Eug]

The sooner they provide, the faster the samples and copies of the documentation will be in the hands of the Russian Federation. Although the ranks of ensigns have been eliminated, it is clearly not easy to liquidate their "spiritual heritage" ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Eug

The sooner they provide, the faster the samples and copies of the documentation will be in the hands of the Russian Federation ...

And there are no critical technologies, nothing revolutionary.
Rocket engines from the Russian Federation are not worse.
Specialized software is useless without a platform, and microelectronics requires a production base of a similar level.
After all, the blueprints of the "outdated" UAV Fortpost were sold to Russia not because the newer ones were squeezed, but because the production base of military microelectronics in the Russian Federation made it possible to organize the production of only such UAVs.

[Eug]

It's still useful, the question is the price.

[Dym71]

Quote: Tavor

Almost the entire complex was developed by the Raphael company from scratch.

Quote: Military Review 03.01.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX

military experts doubt that the reason for the US abandonment of the Iron Dome was the impossibility of integrating it into the American missile defense system. The fact is that the Iron Dome has been integrated into the Israeli air defense network for many years, consisting in the overwhelming majority of the MIM-23 Hawk, MIM-104 Patriot and David's Sling complexes, which are built around American technology supplied by Raytheon.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Dym71

the Americans could not effectively integrate into their own air defense-missile defense system

because their Raytheon took part in the development of the dome

Just now, the Romanians were running out of Iron Dome devices and there is no question of any missile defense - According to the manufacturer, it is designed for quick detection, discrimination and interception of asymmetric threats such as short-range rockets, mortars, and artillery shells, and also serves as a VSHORAD Missile System against traditional Air Defense targets, such as aircraft or helicopters and Romanians have airspace control built around American standards, if I'm not mistaken LM Oceanic Division, moreover, it is an integrated system in the air defense ...
On the other hand, the system was created for close-range object air defense, you can not integrate it anywhere - the reaction time is too short.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dym71

Colleagues, Israelis, please answer, what do you think about this?

Honestly? Nothing, no one even asks a question. The system is paid for and belongs to the Yankees, even if the Papuans will cut them into beads.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Jen Psaki at a White House briefing did not confirm the statement that the United States will provide Ukraine with new Iron Dome air defense systems.

[askort154]

Amazing primitiveness of the modern Ukrainian government, in the "divorce" of its population. It seems that on
Ukraine today is not the 21st century, but times - "walk the field".

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Apparently in Ukraine, getting stuck in power is a normal phenomenon, as judging by the delirium of Monica Zelensky, who speaks forever under a high.

[Nafanya from the sofa]

The statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Presik Zelensky and / or his administration are most reminiscent of O. I. Bender's speeches in Vasyuki.

[Eug]

And the goal is the same - to beg for more money ...

[Evil 55]

Not a cheap toy to trust in the dill pan.

[Nikolaevich I]

In Israel, Iron House ... and in Ukraine there will be Zalizny booth, or Zalizny dakh? Maybe ... Ipin dim?

[Retvizan 8]

... "Various technologies were discussed that Ukraine could obtain or buy from the United States" ...
The horses are annealed!
BUY from the United States?
Yes, you are rubber boats and you could only get them for free!

[rocket757]

According to Dmitry Kuleba,

and what? do I need to explain something? it is also in Africa, it is kuleba ...

[cniza]

Maybe Psaki will change for him, he is quite ...

[rocket757]

Hardly, not the same style ... it is of course and Psaki is no longer the same, but kuleba, this is prohibitive .... disgusting.

[cniza]

Yes, you can't throw words out of the song ...

[prior]

An American ship with components of the Iron Dome missile defense system arrived in Odessa.
While unloading one of the containers, the movers dropped.
From the broken container, iron enamel pans of size 54 and 56 thundered along the pier .......

[Kushka]

Quote: Tavor

On the American side, most of the aid was in financing. Almost the entire complex was developed by the Raphael company from scratch.

Known dances with tambourines around anov-ruslans - manufacturer / copyright holder,
certifier / extender, etc.
The system is the most complicated (and the most dangerous - are there not enough civilian downed planes for us?).
How can it be removed ("expanded") without the participation of the manufacturer, transported, again
deploy (WHO will do this?) and OFFICIALLY put on COMMITTING Duty?
(and Israel is silent!)

[Tavor]

I think that Israel is silent because, most likely, it will not go beyond rumors. It will be difficult for Ukraine to pull this system, at least for financial reasons, only if the United States fully sponsors it. I also do not think that the United States can so easily transfer this complex to a third party without Israel's consent, and he, in turn, trusts few such systems.

[Kushka]

Well, further - in the United States, the dome is not according to Feng Shui - its own system.
The United States took several from Israel to protect the places of stay
their units in Afghanistan, that is, against the same barmaley and
their "waste" rockets. Used - now there are two options,
either throw it away, or sell it to someone.
The question is, where is this hardware physically located? Did you manage to take it out?
Does not look like it. Remained for the Taliban? So go get them now.

[Kushka]

Quote: askort154

Amazing primitiveness of the modern Ukrainian government, in the "divorce" of its population. It seems that in Ukraine today is not the 21st century, but times - "walk the field".

This is no longer even know-how. In 2014, during the presidential elections, Lutsenko climbed to the high platform and before
hoarseness persuaded to choose Poroshenko in ONE tour, which would save the country a HUGE amount, for which it would be possible to buy eleven (I do not remember how many) American combat helicopters.
He did not broadcast about how much the ground infrastructure, training of pilots and maintenance personnel and the content of all this cost.
В

[Sergey Averchenkov]

God, whoever it is, destroy Ukraine - I'm tired of reading about it, I'm already sick.

[Ros 56]

Didn't confuse anything, isn't Germany here?

[Peter is not the first]

Sind Sie ein Nazi?

There are nationalists in any country, somewhere more, somewhere less. The main thing is not to give them power.
А

God, whoever it is, destroy Ukraine - I'm tired of reading about it, I'm already sick.

this is not a rhetorical exclamation without a real call to action, but only a message about tiredness from the monotony of topics.

[cniza]

Ukraine could receive or buy from the United States - with their assistance.

Here it is - to get, but to buy a lot of questions?

[Maikcg]

Ukraine wants from the United States to receive an Israeli nedo-air defense complex against the water pipes of the Allahbabahs? What if something more serious than Kassam arrives?

[Peter is not the first]

Ukraine wants from the United States to receive an Israeli nedo-air defense complex against the water pipes of the Allahbaba? wassat What if something more serious than Kassam arrives?

If something more serious than "water pipes" flies, then most likely this system of the "Iron Dome" will not be able to eliminate this seriousness, since it is specially designed to destroy ballistic, non-maneuvering targets. And even in this case, it calculates the trajectory of the target, and if it flies in a non-threatening direction, it misses it. Therefore, the maneuvering aircraft at some point in time for the automatically operating system "Iron Dome" may turn out to be "not dangerous" and it will let it pass.
And let them supply them to Ukraine. If it suddenly passes from the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the hands of the DPR-LPR (wet dreams) and defends cities from artillery-mortar-rocket attacks of low and medium intensity, then this is a blessing. And if it remains in the Armed Forces, then the battery has only three launchers with 20 anti-missiles in each, and only two BM-21 Grad vehicles will be able to overload such a system with a salvo of 80 missiles.

[wow]

Oh my God, you zhezh my! Who would "put" their brains ....

[Ros 56]

And why, as the doctor used to say - she died, she died. Why make the whole world laugh?

[Ros 56]

They have been waiting for the promised three years, whether the Khokhlostan will exist by that time, even the Lord does not know.

[Suraikin.Aleksandr]

Ha ha ha I immediately remembered the recent scandal in the Ukrainian army, when a modern night vision device for 100 thousand green, supplied under the program of military assistance to Ukraine, was replaced with a Chinese replica from Ali Express!