In Paris: US-UK-Australia Alliance in the Pacific Threatens French Interests

On Thursday, Australia, the US and the UK announced the formation of a new Aukus alliance that will operate in the Asia-Pacific region. Behind the general words about the need to ensure regional security lies, of course, the desire of the three Anglo-Saxon states to coordinate their capabilities and efforts to resist the growing political and economic expansion of China in the region.

However, the West in the Pacific is represented not only by the USA, Great Britain and Australia. France has its own interests in the region. Recall that France still owns colonies in Oceania - New Caledonia and French Polynesia. French Polynesia includes Society Islands, Tuamotu Islands, Marquesas Islands, Tubuai Islands, Gambier Island. Paris regularly conducts military tests in the Pacific region, French naval units are based in Noumea (New Caledonia) and Papaeta (Tahiti), and there is no doubt that the creation of the alliance was very offensive to France. They are talking about this in Paris itself, believing that such an alliance threatens French interests in the region.

Moreover, France previously worked closely with Australia in the construction of submarines. So, earlier Australia chose the French shipbuilding company Naval Group for the construction of a new underwater fleet worth $ 40 billion. Now this deal will not take place.

But it became known that the United States and Great Britain, within the framework of the new alliance, will take care of the modernization of the Australian submarine fleet. That is, in fact, they ousted France and the French military industry, and now Australia will spend its money within the framework of the new bloc.

Interestingly, the United States previously spoke a lot about the need for Europe to more actively participate in the affairs of the Asia-Pacific region. Washington's plans were to create the most effective counterbalance to Chinese influence.

But then, nevertheless, a course was taken for cooperation not with France or Germany, but with Great Britain and Australia as long-standing close partners of the United States, countries of Anglo-Saxon culture. Apparently, France is not trusted in Washington, suspecting that Paris will try to pursue an independent policy in the APR. And France does not have such contradictions and intersections of interests with China, while the interests of the United States, Great Britain or Australia in the Pacific Ocean are directly threatened by China, as the authorities of these countries constantly say.

Comments

[Machito]

Where is France and where is the Pacific Ocean? France's Tiny Islands Claims the Pacific Rim? And the muzzle of the face will not crack?

[Alex777]

The States and Japan and France were crushed with the Australian submarine.
First, Japan was pushed back from the tender for Australian submarines,
in "gratitude for the Mistrals", and now the French were thrown.
There is still a question: on what project will these nuclear submarines be built?
I am sure that there will be CDs on them in any case. Not excluding YABCH.
So Australia is now also under the distribution.
PS And Macron was shipped a test gift before the elections ...

[For example]

US, UK and Australia alliance in the Pacific threatens French interests

Macron, declare war on them!
Eclipse Napoleon.

[Alex777]

Macron was able to squeeze Trump's hand, he is not capable of more.
How Macron will be re-elected is completely incomprehensible to me.

[Tatyana]

Australia, the United States and the United Kingdom have announced the formation of a new Aukus alliance that will operate in the Asia Pacific region.
Behind the general words about the need to ensure regional security lies, of course, the desire of the three Anglo-Saxon states to coordinate their capabilities and efforts to resist the growing political and economic expansion of China in the region.

And nevertheless, figs Washington and London are some kind of independent-kicking into NATO France with its national interests in a new military alliance in the Pacific to share something in the region!

The later the Anglo-Saxons accept France into this alliance, the less it will have its own national rights and military-political capabilities.

[Alex777]

Britain did not leave the EU to share its interests with anyone other than the Anglo-Saxons. IMHO.
Britain wants to be loved and the only wife.
Trump promised this directly. There is such a consensus in the States.
And her British Commonwealth is a dowry.

[isv000]

Quote: Alex777

The States and Japan and France were crushed with the Australian submarine.
First, Japan was pushed back from the tender for Australian submarines,

France began to mumble too much and loudly. The Yapas will do whatever they are told to do anyway. In the face of Australia, the Americans found an unshorn sheep, selling it 12 nuclear submarines, but with non-nuclear weapons. Well, the new unit will have to urgently purchase the latest weapons, guess where? ..

[Alex777]

Quote: isv000

Americans found an unshorn sheep in Australia by selling 12 nuclear submarines to it

12??? Which? The project is unknown.
Nuclear submarines will be more expensive than submarines.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

Nuclear submarines will be more expensive than submarines.

Even if the US offers \ offered "Virginia" $ 5 billion. (the price for the US Navy is $ 3 billion), then 12 units. will cost 60 billion dollars. , and not 66 billion ... and for 12 French.
I don't know what the French offered them there for that kind of money, but apparently the American proposals turned out to be more interesting here.
Apparently they wanted to push like the Indians with the "Raphael".
Will the US industry only pull such an order, along with its own?
At this point, what rate of deliveries will be set.

[Alex777]

They will build in Australia. The reactors were going to receive and install.
And the cost of the contract certainly includes weapons, training, etc.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

They will build in Australia. The reactors were going to receive and install.

Well, this is the right decision, especially with so many MAPLs, after all, they will have to be serviced / repaired, there must be somewhere.

Quote: Alex777

And the cost of the contract certainly includes weapons, training, etc.

It goes without saying, but even with all this ... 66 billion dollars. for 12 pcs? This is more than 5,5 billion apiece. At the turn of the 80s - 90s, the cost of aircraft carriers of the "Nimitz" type. And then MAPL ... French ... a very moderate VI ...
The shores of the paddling pools have lost specifically.
And the United States, by intercepting the order, is strengthening the newborn military bloc.

The question now is that we also need to react somehow - we have MAPL, apart from the old Soviet projects that are still serving, in nature / project there is NO. "Ash" does not count - these are classic SSGNs.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: bayard

I don't know what the French offered them for that kind of money,

It looks like they wanted to make the submarine with capabilities like that of a nuclear submarine, but not a nuclear one. There is no other way to explain the price.

[bayard]

At the prices of their submarines with VNEU, they have long approached the cost of submarines ... but not with their capabilities. By the way, they do not build such stupidity for themselves. But they are bred on the supply of such non-nuclear submarines ... simpletons from the 3rd world.
And Australia apparently decided to go big.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

By the way, they do not build such stupidity for themselves.

The Germans, the Swedes, and the Yapps and the Koreans are building non-nuclear submarines for them.
When necessary, the States will give an assignment and everyone will go to carry it out.

[Osipov9391]

Australia is almost the main supplier for almost the entire Western world (and not only) - uranium, nickel, chromium, lead, bismuth and other metals. Well, there is also South Africa.

[bayard]

Until recently, she also supplied coal and gas to China ... And this is a whole continent. Reserve for the Anglo-Saxons.
And now the United States and England have decided to shake up the military (naval) potential of this province to confront and contain China ... What promising potential has been drawn to help the weakening hegemon.

[nks]

The explanation can be very simple - you just need to get acquainted with the materiel (the history of the Australian program and the terms of the tender). It should be understood that no matter what amounts were announced in the press, it was about the budgetary cost of the entire program. About half there, in general, went directly to the United States for BIUS and weapons, which were to be equipped with future submarines under the terms of the tender (those, this part was chosen without any competition). Of the remaining money, a significant, if not most, part had to settle with local contractors and bureaucracy, since the submarine was to be built in Australia, which has no such experience. Plus the creation and maintenance of the future infrastructure. The Franks there were at best ~ 10 yards. In general, the competition was announced only because Australia planned to remain a nuclear-free country - accordingly, the submarines should be non-nuclear (it is clear that France can also offer nuclear submarines, but the competition most likely simply would not exist, as it does not exist now). So, of course, it is the sovereign business of Australia, where to order boats, and even decisions and agreements made can be canceled, but to do it in this manner is petty, mean and, indeed, not in the spirit of the existing relationship, especially since they did not make any claims to the French ... Moreover, France, in the end, is still in the black in terms of money (but plans, of course, need to be changed), but it was Ossi who got in - they have already wasted money and will pay more, and the prospects of the program itself have also sagged.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Alex777

The States and Japan and France were crushed with the Australian submarine.

You are oversimplifying it a lot. There is a big question of who wanted to "push who." The superiority of a nuclear submarine over a non-nuclear one is more than obvious. And the price of the French project went beyond reasonable limits.

In 2016, the Naval Group, then known as DCNS, won a tender to supply a Collin-class replacement with the Block 1A short-barreled Barracuda, which was derived from a nuclear Barracuda design developed by the company for the French Navy.
Since then, cost increases, delays and other issues have hampered work on these submarines, the first of which the Royal Australian Navy announced will be named HMAS Attack in 2018. Under this existing deal, the first class boats are expected to enter service only in the early 2030s. The total cost of the program, which includes the production of 12 submarines, also rose from $ 40 billion to nearly $ 70 billion. At the same time, the French government continued to insist that its own efforts to acquire six nuclear-powered Barracudas would cost just over $ 10 billion, which only raised additional questions about the status of the Australian contract with Naval Group.

[Oleg83]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Quote: Alex777

The States and Japan and France were crushed with the Australian submarine.

You are oversimplifying it a lot. There is a big question of who wanted to "push who." The superiority of a nuclear submarine over a non-nuclear one is more than obvious. And the price of the French project went beyond reasonable limits.

In 2016, the Naval Group, then known as DCNS, won a tender to supply a Collin-class replacement with the Block 1A short-barreled Barracuda, which was derived from a nuclear Barracuda design developed by the company for the French Navy.
Since then, cost increases, delays and other issues have hampered work on these submarines, the first of which the Royal Australian Navy announced will be named HMAS Attack in 2018. Under this existing deal, the first class boats are expected to enter service only in the early 2030s. The total cost of the program, which includes the production of 12 submarines, also rose from $ 40 billion to nearly $ 70 billion. At the same time, the French government continued to insist that its own efforts to acquire six nuclear-powered Barracudas would cost just over $ 10 billion, which only raised additional questions about the status of the Australian contract with Naval Group.

There was originally a strange contract. Virginia is worth 3 billion (plus or minus depending on the modification), i.e. for those 40 billion you can buy the same number of boats (12) only with a nuclear reactor. And the fact that the contract has grown from 40 to 66 is simply not conceivable, the French just wanted to cut the dough, but the greed of the frayer ruined, they were left without a contract at all. Moreover, as I understood there is still no French boat project for Australia, and the implementation timeframe has gone far to the right along with the price.
Trump also offered to sell the same Virginia to Australia. I only wonder where these boats will be built, in Australia from ready-made parts or completely in the USA

[avg]

The French have the phantom pains of a great power. Likewise, the Ukrainians still remember themselves as part of the USSR and cannot accept that now they are nobody.

[mvg]

Not excluding YABCH

What does Australia and YABC have to do with it? There is not even a nuclear power plant in Australia. The green continent is "free" of nuclear weapons.

[g1v2]

Australia is a member of the 5 Eyes Union. They are real allies of the United States. EU and francs are competitors. The Anglo-Saxons are beginning to transform the Australian fleet from a subsidiary and unimportant to a prominent component of Anglo-Saxon control over the Pacific region. The United States can no longer build up its navy and will therefore encourage the growth of the fleets of Australia and New Zealand.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Bearded

Where is France and where is the Pacific Ocean? France's Tiny Islands Claims the Pacific Rim? And the muzzle of the face will not crack?

And what's wrong with that ? Russia certainly does not claim those territories (the islands of France) and the markets of the states located there, but the clash of interests of France with the Anglo-Saxon bloc plays into our hands .... after all, they threw France for a lot of money - the "allies" and Paris will not forget this, ideally, the formation of a German-French bloc would be in opposition to the Anglo-Saxon one, but for now, alas ... and in the future, who knows, by the way, the drain of Lithuanian correspondences very clearly shows that the United States is interfering in Germany's affairs with France and does not want these states to be strengthened in the EU and NATO, so if the ultra-right comes to power in France in 2022, and in Germany (over time) the position of the ultra-right also strengthens, then very interesting processes will begin :)

[For example]

Quote: Aleksandr21

after all, they threw France for a lot of money - the "allies" and Paris will not forget this

Swallowed.

[alch3mist]

Swallowed.

I can't wait for a demotivator, where a smiling Macron sits on the couch, and 5 blacks with the heads of Biden, Johnson are standing behind ...

[den3080]

Quote: Bearded

US, UK and Australia alliance in the Pacific threatens French interests

Yes. Threatens. You can accidentally lose French Polynesia.
Tahiti and all that stuff.

[Ren]

Quote: Bearded

Where is France and where is the Pacific Ocean?

And where is the country great and where is the Pacific Ocean?
France has a large number of overseas territories there (with a total area of ​​over 23 sq. Km), and the Great Island, in addition to the Pitcairn Islands (000 islands with a total area of ​​only 5 sq. Km), has what?
The island itself is large, less than 230 sq. Km, so the Gauls are worried, after all, the historical enemies of the shaven.

[Bat]

That's exactly the muzzle will crack.

[Galleon]

French Polynesia is the pearl of the world's oceans and a very expensive resort. If you came there without tens of thousands of euros, you will not be allowed to go ashore there, unless for a day or two. In addition, the French possessions are very large in area and their ownership makes the landlord a significant figure in the Pacific Ocean. And here is such a pig with English-speaking ...

[svp67]

Quote: Bearded

France's Tiny Islands Claims the Pacific Rim? And the muzzle of the face will not crack?

There is something more different ... "flyby" with a contract for the construction of submarines. Then, after the "muddy" story with the Mistrals, it was salvation for the French shipbuilders, and now history repeats itself, only with the opposite sign, but the result is the same - there will be no money

[nks]

The story with the Mistrals was not muddy, and there is no talk of salvation. As a result, DCNS remained on the Mistral and in general a profitable company.

PS: And the French arms export has grown 14+ (!) Times since the 2th year, but many here continue to remain here in their maneuver, combing their sores.

[Sergej1972]

France controls a huge area in the Pacific Ocean.

[knn54]

"You and I have 4 thousand each, Balaganov - two. He did not work for two.
And Kozlevich?
For what? This is a robbery! Who is Kozlevich to share with him?
We don't know any Kozlevich! - Everything? - Everything is "... (Golden Calf").
Today Australia is working very closely with Japan.

[lucul]

"You and I have 4 thousand each, Balaganov - two. He did not work for two.
And Kozlevich?
For what? This is a robbery! Who is Kozlevich to share with him?
We don't know any Kozlevich! - Everything? - Everything is "... (Golden Calf").

I do not like these works, they are written in a mentality alien to us.

[Volodin]

Quote: lucul

I do not like these works

Your right, undeniable
But this is strange:

Quote: lucul

written in a mentality alien to us.

Alien to whom exactly - "us"? Do we have no swindlers, rogues, "blue thieves" and "persons with honestly earned billions in suitcases"? They are everywhere, including us

[lucul]

Alien to whom exactly - "us"?

An overly mercantile work was written, which was not noticed by any Russian writer until 1920 inclusive.
Will you argue? )))

[Volodin]

Of course I will)))
Did Gogol write differently? "Dead Souls", "Resizor" ... And Saltykov-Shchedrin ...
This is not written in a mercantile manner, it is written about the mercantile nature of human

[lucul]

Did Gogol write differently? "Dead Souls", "Resisor" ...

In general, it is different. In Gogol, this type goes in negative tones, with censure, and in Twelve Chairs / The Golden Calf - this type is the most positive protagonist (who must be leveled up), and the authors have no censure of him and is not visible.

[Volodin]

Quote: lucul

In Gogol, this type goes in negative tones, with censure, and in Twelve Chairs / Golden Calf - this type is the most positive main character (which must be leveled)

So that's why it is a classic - everyone makes their main idea for themselves. Personally, for some reason, it never seemed to me that the authors urge the reader to be equal to Bender, well, simply because there are a lot of works in which no one is called to be equal to anyone at all - the same "Dead Souls". This is not "How the Steel Was Tempered", after all, but satire.

[lucul]

Personally, for some reason, it never seemed to me that the authors urge the reader to be equal to Bender

Yes ? But for some reason, more than one generation of people has grown up who consider Bender to be a positive hero, from which an example should be taken - an excellent version of an egoist-opportunist. And the author's censure goes at the very end in general in passing.
Strongly reminiscent of Western articles about Russia - a spoon was found, but a sediment remained)))

[ankir13]

Citizens, do not argue, Bender, charming, sparkling, attractive, not all the same an antihero, that's why the apocalypse comprehended him, financial ... You have to work, citizens!

[icant007]

Quote: Volodin

Personally, for some reason, it never seemed to me that the authors urge the reader to be equal to Bender,

And what are the monuments erected to him then? )

Well, I can still understand in Pyatigorsk near Proval - the official version to attract tourists (although it should be attracted by other heroes), but in St. Petersburg, Lugansk.

I agree with lucul. This is the bible of a rotten philistine culture

[Motorist]

Quote: icant007

Well, I can still understand in Pyatigorsk at the Failure .., well, in St. Petersburg

I agree.

Nobody wanted to take university centers. No one needed the well-worn Moscow, Leningrad and Kharkov.

But in Mogilev and Bobruisk you can put it.

At the word "Bobruisk" the meeting groaned painfully. Everyone agreed to go to Bobruisk even now. Bobruisk was considered a wonderful, highly cultured place.

[icant007]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: icant007

Well, I can still understand in Pyatigorsk at the Failure .., well, in St. Petersburg

I agree.

Nobody wanted to take university centers. No one needed the well-worn Moscow, Leningrad and Kharkov.

But in Mogilev and Bobruisk you can put it.

At the word "Bobruisk" the meeting groaned painfully. Everyone agreed to go to Bobruisk even now. Bobruisk was considered a wonderful, highly cultured place.

I see you are a connoisseur of the work of Ilf and Petrov)))

I would be interested in how Bender's fate would have developed during the Second World War?
Which side would he be on?

[Motorist]

Quote: icant007

I see you are a connoisseur of the work of Ilf and Petrov)))

Yes, I reread these works sometimes, more - "The Golden Calf".

Quote: icant007

how would Bender's fate have been during the Second World War?
Which side would he be on?

I don't think the Authors would write about it. But if they had written, they would have come up with something: Bender's life and death lay in a sugar bowl, the lot fell out fatal, but still had to be resurrected at the request of readers. And in this case we would have gotten out. Bender is not a character, he is a tool for revealing human vices ...

[icant007]

Quote: Motorist

Bender is not a character, he is a tool for revealing human vices ...

Eh, if only people still understood this ...

[alch3mist]

in Twelve Chairs / Golden Calf - this type is the most positive protagonist (to whom one should be equal), and the authors have no censure of him and cannot be seen.

Then Kisa would not have stabbed him at the very end, and the Romanians would not have swept away.

[tihonmarine]

But it became known that the United States and Great Britain, within the framework of the new alliance, will take care of the modernization of the Australian submarine fleet.

Australia intends to build nuclear submarines on its territory. It will receive technologies for their development within the framework of a new trilateral partnership with the United States and Great Britain, said Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison.
The nuclear submarine will be built in Adelaide, while Australia does not intend to produce nuclear weapons, TASS reports.

[tralflot1832]

Not having built the boats, the Australian Prime Minister calls on China to dialogue, sounds like a threat. With coal in Australia, on China's mountain, let's see how it will be with gas. So far, there were only words from China. You look at the Prelude LNG plant, it’s on pins and needles. All Anglo-Saxons do it. so that China would buy even more gas from us. And at the Amur GPP we have only two branches in operation for 16 billion cubic meters, the third column has just been delivered.

[Alex777]

Quote: tihonmarine

Australia does not intend to produce nuclear weapons, TASS reports.

They don't even need to produce it. They will give it for free when the time comes.

[isv000]

Quote: Alex777

They don't even need to produce it. They will give it for free when the time comes.

They found another sheep to be slaughtered ... And then in Europe they are no longer led to cheese in a mousetrap, except perhaps by seafarers ...

[dauria]

They found another sheep to be slaughtered ... And then in Europe they are no longer led to cheese in a mousetrap, except perhaps by seafarers

Europe is no longer interesting - it is too far from the future theater of military operations. Surprisingly, NATO has turned into a theater, where Poland digs unnecessary trenches, and the rest of the "members" sit on the bench for the audience and chuckle.
And the "seamen" from Ukraine are generally local showdowns of the appanage princes of Russia. By and large, they are not interesting to anyone in the world.
Now the shores of the Pacific Ocean from Kamchatka to Tasmania are in vogue.
Poor Japs, in the middle of a dog wedding again.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: isv000

They found another sheep to be slaughtered ...

Precisely that the next, even a nickname was not invented. The fact is that grandfather Biden forgot (or did not know) the name of Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison, calling him "that guy below" during a videoconference. So yes, everything is in color: the one below.
This is not counting Macron, who was dropped a little earlier.

[Kuz]

Quote: tihonmarine

while Australia does not intend to produce nuclear weapons

In the event of a mess, this is unlikely to save her from the escalation of the conflict.

[Zaurbek]

This Alliance still has its own in the EU in the form of Eastern Europe. And they hinder the possibilities and ambitions of France ... And not everything is clear with the FRG either.

[tralflot1832]

That's what makes the fear of China life-giving, suspicion is already good. Macron was thrown 40 billion. Macron, what are you to the devil Napoleon?

[den3080]

Quote: tralflot1832

That's what makes the fear of China life-giving, suspicion is already good. Macron was thrown 40 billion. Macron, what are you to the devil Napoleon?

He's much closer to Emmanuel than to Buonaparte

[tralflot1832]

Eh, Macron will not see the glory, the unifier of Europe. Maybe he will experience the glory of the destroyer. There is still time. From such diplomacy, everything can be expected.

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

Everything can be expected from such diplomacy.

So the SP-2 will be launched and Germany will finally raise its head to spit on the frogs ...

[tralflot1832]

The decline in gas prices today gives hope for the launch of JV 2 by January 8, 2022, and Vitrenko, after negotiations with the Germans, spoke completely differently.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

Maybe he will experience the fame of the destroyer.

Under Macron, Notre Dame Cathedral burned down.

[Wolf]

Napoleon was a Korzikan, and Macron from central France was a lover of grandmothers and frogs.

[rotmistr60]

In a word, the United States and Great Britain gave France a ride worth 40 billion. France was offended. But the Americans and the British don't care. your pocket is more important. To fight as part of NATO is one thing (though the French are not too eager), but business is naturally another.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: rotmistr60

In a word, the United States and Great Britain gave France a ride worth $ 40 billion.

Not the first time. When the sanctions were briefly lifted from Iran, Airbus managed to conclude a contract for the supply of several hundred airliners (I don’t remember the model), but Trump returned the sanctions and the French were left with nothing. These are allied relations.

[Alex777]

Iran and Germany had serious interests in the automotive industry.
Therefore, Germany participated in the JCPOA together with members of the Security Council.

[Brturin]

Iranians ... The French are with Airbus, the Germans are with the car industry, and the British are in favor "resulting from a canceled arms deal ..." Having received a phone call from Foreign Minister @DominicRaab, he expressed his readiness for a dialogue based on mutual respect; ... emphasizing that the old UK debt to Iran must be fully repaid. ”https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3371513.html

[isv000]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Airbus managed to conclude a contract for the supply of several hundred airliners (I don't remember the model),

Reduce the sturgeon ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: isv000

Reduce the sturgeon ...

The contract was for 200 aircraft: more than a hundred Airbus, the rest was Boeing.
In total, Iran's needs for aircraft were estimated at 500 units over three years.

[isv000]

Quote: rotmistr60

In a word, the United States and Great Britain gave France a ride worth 40 billion. France was offended.

The boomerang flew for the Mistral!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

To fight as part of NATO is one thing (though the French are not too eager), and business, of course, is another.

True, war is war, and business apart, your own shirt is dearer than the French one.

[Doctor]

Everything is correct. In difficult times, you need to stick to proven solutions.

Well, it's time for us to introduce compulsory study of German in military schools.

[tralflot1832]

I disagree with you! After May 1945, a vocabulary of two German words is sufficient for Russians: Hyundai Hoch. But English, Australian and American in military schools should be required.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Times are not the same. Well, you write on the rocket in angelic "Hello, Washington!", Duc who will read it?

[isv000]

Quote: Arzt

Well, it's time for us to introduce compulsory study of German in military schools.

Everything that is needed is written down in our subcortex: halt, henda hoh, kaput ...

[prior]

Belonging to different "packs of predators" led to a conflict of interest.
Everything is as always - the strongest survives.

[evgen1221]

England and Australia with Canada are one and the same in essence. So the size of the corona satellites was a priority for the United States in the choice. Plus long-standing partnerships.

[Alex777]

Quote: evgen1221

England and Australia with Canada are one and the same in essence.

One thing is surprising - why is Canada not in this alliance?

[tralflot1832]

The Chinese have two Canadians held hostage for the last trip to the stadium. For Trudeau, this is a political death.

[isv000]

Quote: Alex777

One thing is surprising - why is Canada not in this alliance?

Joker. This sheep will finally be shaken ...

[Alex777]

Canada was shaken by 15 Type 26 frigates.
Approximately USD 62 billion.
Apparently enough for now.

[isv000]

Quote: Alex777

Canada was shaken by 15 Type 26 frigates.

You will remember the late Zadorny a hundred times: "... well, stupid-s-s!"

[Troll]

Aliens are not taken. Only the Anglo-Saxons.

[Mouse]

France was not invited ... abidna !!!

[Borisych]

Australia must answer for the construction of the nuclear submarine in full. Such things cannot be overlooked. The United Kingdom went on a provocation, hitherto unprecedented. This newly organized red-haired Borka, together with Joe's farts, must cover the common fund, as well as the project with the anti-Russian 404.

[tralflot1832]

Recently, the Ambassador of the People's Republic of China to England was banned from visiting Parliament, from the word at all. They will jump. They will be left without diapers and toilet paper. And it may come in handy after China's response, while at the diplomatic level.

[lubesky]

The boomerang of fate is beyond the Mistrals ...
$ 66 billion and national prestige against two helicopter carriers. I wish the French more losses of contracts for Rafali

[Yura]

It is a shame for France that they do not take her to fight with China, but dream, well, well, dreaming is not harmful. China is not Mali and France is lucky that she was not invited, so let her cheeks puff out for show and not twitch.

[16112014nk]

The "frogs" are indignant - to break the contract with France is not comme il faut. But to break with Russia is different.
Well, "boomerangs" exist for such situations.

[rocket757]

the desire of the three Anglo-Saxon states to coordinate their capabilities and efforts to resist the growing political and economic expansion of China in the region.

at first glance, on the second and on all subsequent ones .... the union of future losers, although some are already, already, one step away from this state.
Insolent Saxon something there, it looks not ice, if the "allies" send them naf.
the only question is who will send it and when ... this, of course, is an assumption / fantasy, but apparently it can happen that way.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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“As AUKUS responds, it will respond” ...
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[MakStVik]

Russia in Mali is in the way of France, the Americans are in the Pacific. Poor fellows.

[Prisoner]

And ISO "Australia withdrew from an agreement with France to build 12 submarines worth $ 66 billion." Why are you and your grandmother's husband like that?

[CYM]

Well, the Anglo-Saxons "thanked" the Gauls for refusing to build the Mistrals. But the darkest told them not to be friends with anyone who could harm yourself, revive the ideas of Gaullism.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hear the French! Anglo-Saxons don't consider you human

[isv000]

Quote: Quetzalcoatl

Hear the French! Anglo-Saxons don't consider you human

"Did these same people defeat us?"

[aszzz888]

But then, nevertheless, a course was taken for cooperation not with France or Germany, but with Great Britain and Australia as long-standing close partners of the United States, countries of Anglo-Saxon culture. France, apparently, is not trusted in Washington,

The tobacco at the trough is trying to shove the neighbor away.

[orionvitt]

This is how the Western allies are throwing their own Western allies, nothing new. The French in their Europe have become completely stupid. And the goat understands that you need to be friends with the strongest. Who is the most influential in the Pacific region? UK and Australia? Or maybe China already?

[sagitovich]

Another stake in the crack of the NATO alliance! Keep it up! We will support anyone who says this.

[Wolf]

Did Korea teach the Anglo-Saxons nothing?
And Korea is slightly smaller than China, and there was South Africa. If Australtsi continue to be on the leash of the Evil Britons and the United States, it can easily happen that the Indonesian Republic of Australia, or the Chinese Republic of Austria or the Malezian Republic of Australia, etc.
As for frogs, they overestimate their capabilities a lot, the Pacific Ocean region milking the Franks is the same as the Moon region in space. The remnants of the empire of the Korzikanets and the European Massons have no connection with today's France.
And when the "historians" talk about the magnitude of the Franzus empire, they are actually talking about the Masonic empire. Europe, WE SHOULD BE NAMED BY THEIR RIGHT NAMES!
The Masonic Empire Europe lived in a COMPLETE CRASH IN RUSSIA, AND THEN THE BISTROI APPEARED IN PARIS.
What will the Masons be able to offer France today? NOTHING !!!

[Wolf]

France will be able to tighten the threads with the lightest excuse of the Masons!

[alystan]

They were scared for "their" islands, there were not enough African colonies for goats, where did the greed for profit take them ?! Even in South-North America, they tried to acquire "dachas". Yes, they succeeded in doing something - they built their spaceport right next to Venezuela in French Guiana. But even there people have long wanted to drive them away. In short, it’s a misfortune for the frogs, they are being pressed around, maybe even in the metropolis they will be able to get rid of the dictatorship of democracy earlier?

[ankir13]

Voila, gspda, French, mistrals, they are like that, sea winds, changeable, here and there they blow ...

[Alex Justice]

In the news today, Australia will be building a nuclear submarine with an American reactor. Indonesia is not happy.

[Don Analyst]

The political architecture of the 21st century is being laid!
And now you can see true architects from time to time.
Britain as a generator of the idea of ​​domination of the Anglo-Saxon world.
NATO will go into the past, for the Anglo-Saxons it would be good to grind the whole of Europe into trash, but ... there is a vigorous bomb!
It was not for nothing that they left the European Union ... they will drain it.

[Logic]

Great ..!
The Frenchman is Putin's agent.
The next one is Poland! ))