Taliban do not exclude the creation of a regular army in Afghanistan

The Taliban * who came to power in Afghanistan (the movement is banned in Russia as a terrorist movement) allow the creation of a regular army, this issue is being considered. This was stated by the appointed chief of staff of the Afghan Armed Forces, Kari Fasihuddin.

According to the new chief of staff, speaking at a news conference in Kabul, the Taliban * leadership is considering the formation of a regular Afghan army in the near future. Consultations on this issue are currently underway. Fasikhuddin did not give any other details.

At the moment, the Taliban do not have a regular army, its functions are performed by detachments commanded by "field commanders". The detachments are formed according to tribal principles, as well as territorial ones. In addition, there are mercenaries fighting for material values.

As previously reported, due to the hasty flight of the Americans from Afghanistan, the Taliban got a lot of weapons and equipment of the Afghan army, including the modern one, which requires knowledge and skills to maintain and use. At the same time, many former Afghan soldiers remain in Afghanistan, trained by the Americans and their allies, but now out of work. Probably, the Taliban will be recruiting former servicemen of the Afghan army to serve in the new army, if a decision is made to form it.

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[Clear]

Probably, the Taliban will recruit former soldiers of the Afghan army to serve in the new army, if a decision is made to form it.

They will definitely not bake pies.

[Finches]

The picture is donkey ... big donkey friends themselves are stunned by their coolness! Armed with only 18th century caramults, they squeezed Hummers, machine guns and assault rifles, helicopters from the second army of the Universe (after the APU) ...
But, to be serious, the visit of the Taliban leaders to Moscow suggests that they really understand that if the Russian army enters Afghanistan, they will all come to a quick end, the Russians are not a pin ... Americans, know how to fight like no one else - since 1993 year all supporters of all sorts of idiotic imamates are spinning at the end of the Russian war. Therefore, we immediately came to Moscow, like my mother, I swear, in the direction of Russia, no, no!

[Tatyana]

Taliban do not exclude the creation of a regular army in Afghanistan

According to the current historical moment - the political and military-technical moment in terms of the number of modern weapons and military equipment left by them - in Afghanistan, the Taliban really have such an opportunity, if they use the situation in their country politically competently.

[Cananecat]

The Russian army will not come ... and they understand that too. The concept of database maintenance has changed. There is no need to bring in a contingent to inflict any significant damage. Yes, the Russian soldier can do a lot of things that others cannot, but he also learns to fight in new conditions.
By their visit to Moscow, the banned confirmed the growing influence of Russia in the region and on the world stage.

[Clear]

Quote: Canecat

The Russian army will not come ...

Nobody in Israel canceled strikes from abroad of another state (at least Lebanon).

[gsev]

Quote: Finches

But, to be serious, the visit of the Taliban leaders to Moscow shows that they really understand that if the Russian army enters Afghanistan, they will all come to a quick end,

After a visit to Afghanistan, it turned out that the Soviet army and even its special forces did not look like the local militia. In Afghanistan, the medical profession, for example, is valued and respected above the general's position. War is common there and people value the possibility of peaceful labor without the danger of getting a fatal bullet or grenade from a neighbor.

[knn54]

Something I remembered Persia of the time of Cyrus and, especially, Darius.
Magnificent warriors - one Persian was worth several Greeks in battle.
In battle, each tribal detachment fought more or less with dignity.
ALL IN THE SAME, a multi-tribal army was no good -
not least of all, intergeneric "graters" played here
Proven by the Sakas, Greeks, especially Alexander the Great
We will see.

[Basarev]

Fine. The Taliban are themselves falling into a trap. After all, as soon as the main principles of the regular army are put into effect - the universality of command (a conscript even from the farthest province obeys the official Kabul, and not the local military leaders), the comprehensiveness of the order (the unity of military laws throughout the country, and not the priority of local customs over national ) and, of course, Discipline - then all recruits will scatter in the very first years and will be partisans against the Taliban. Then the Taliban will have to try to suppress the whole country and the entire people - naturally, unsuccessfully. People will remember all the unfulfilled promises - for example, amnesty, for example, women's rights - the options are different. This is a great opportunity for us - in this turmoil to look for one secular movement (and it will undoubtedly be) - and support it until complete victory. After many years, the great task will still be accomplished. Afghanistan will be a peaceful and secular state. Perhaps even atheistic and socialist — exactly what the Soviets wanted when they entered Afghanistan.

[Catfish]

Thank you, laughed heartily.

[hohol95]

Yes, how to create a regular army under a tribal system ...
Without rebuilding "from within" the very population of the country?
Here's a riddle ... for them !!!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: hohol95

Yes, how to create a regular army under a tribal system ...
Without rebuilding "from within" the very population of the country?
Here's a riddle ... for them !!!

As for non-special (such as aviation) units, it's easy.
It will turn out to be a regular army with nuances)
The tribal formations will be transferred entirely to the subdivisions of the "regular" army, together with their commanders.
Of course insanity will be present, but they somehow got used to living with it.
Large combined arms operations are carried out, such as the capture of Kabul or the ATO in Panjshir.
Particularly dull ones will be changed / pushed in / straightened.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

What is difficult? Rename what it is to army. And no longer take a steam bath.

[ximkim]

They will carry out a revolution in their own way.

[hohol95]

In the film "Don't be afraid, I'm with you" the phrase (approximately) sounded - "I want to live in a new way, but at the same time everything should remain the same!"
So they want - a smartphone in one hand, a whip in the other, and behind a woman in a burqa.

[gsev]

Quote: hohol95

Yes, how to create a regular army under a tribal system ...

It seems that their army was much faster and more efficient than the Soviet one in carrying out its Panjshir operation. Maybe under the tribal system in Afghanistan it is easier to mobilize than, for example, in modern Russia in the event of a war?

[strannik1985]

Like their army

It is impossible to escape from "their army" to Pakistan, that's the whole difference. As a result of all the Panjshir operations, the OKSVA captured the area, Masud's troops scattered, it is another matter that a lot of forces were needed to control the gorge, they had to leave and everything was repeated again.

[gsev]

Quote: strannik1985

As a result of all Panjshir operations, OKSVA captured the area, Masud's troops scattered,

The Taliban, during their Panjshir operation, rather quickly knocked out the commanders of the Panjshir resistance, that is, they know how to knock out the enemy's manpower in hostilities. In a guerrilla war, the defeat of the guerrillas is possible if their organizing core is destroyed. The Germans succeeded only in the Dorogobuzh area. The USSR lost Ukraine due to its inability to completely eliminate the governing structures of the underground. Kravchuk, a former Bandera member, was able to take the post of head of the Ukrainian SSR. And his associate Kuchma ran the largest plant in Ukraine.

[strannik1985]

In a guerrilla war

Without a difference, on the territory of Pakistan (mainly), Iran and China, there were camps in which militants were trained. They killed one - a new one came.
To win the guerrilla war, it is necessary to isolate the military base area (the Taliban had no problems with this, they could only help Massoud by air, and then after the withdrawal of American troops from Kabul).

[hohol95]

There is no need to "pour hotter" towards the Soviet troops in the DRA.
The current "defenders" of Panjshir have clearly lost motivation.
And the "good uncles" did not give them money ... But they are not ready to fight for their hard-earned money. Yes, and to live in caves is clearly out of the habit.
And about the formation of a regular army - wait and see!

[gsev]

Quote: hohol95

The current "defenders" of Panjshir have clearly lost motivation.

The Taliban simply advanced more actively and decisively than the Soviet troops. Losses in one ambush of one and a half hundred killed alone did not force the Taliban to stop trying to advance in Panjshir. The main problem that the Taliban will face is the collapse of the economy, the flight of the intelligentsia from work, a lack of fuel and the threat of hunger. Solving these problems will either change the Taliban or the Taliban will have a chance to lose power in a year and a half.

[hohol95]

Information about losses "from the forest"?

[gsev]

Quote: hohol95

Information about losses "from the forest"?

My friends know the reason why Sarvari and his family, after the defeat of the communists, found shelter with their opponents. The Russian wiki is silent about this. Usually enemy losses are estimated 5 times higher than real ones. The Taliban's capture of Panjshir cost commensurate with the casualties of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas during the first year of the war. What are your ratings?

[hohol95]

And my friends know how to fry sunflower seeds well ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Basarev

The Taliban are trapping themselves

But I'm not sure about that. If they make a professional army, which will be mostly contract soldiers, that is, without forced recruitment, and united by religion (not to compare with the Armed Forces of Ukraine), they will be able to achieve a lot. IMHO

[SB]

By creating an army as a service, the Taliban will split. Purpose and service are different things.

[gsev]

Quote: S B

By creating an army as a service, the Taliban will split. Purpose and service are different things.

In Afghanistan, soldiers are not drilled as much as in Russia. There are always 30-50 percent during the service either deserted or went AWOL for up to six months. In Afghanistan, even prisoners are given leave or the opportunity to shorten their sentences by paying early release money. In addition, those arrested there are not guarded very strictly, and many, by Russian standards, simply run away from prison.

[Evil 55]

Robe, pakol, caramultuk will Taliban soldiers now have camouflage colors?

[tihonmarine]

Taliban do not exclude the creation of a regular army in Afghanistan

The government, the judiciary, law enforcement and the regular army are the backbone of the state. And without her, no one will talk. Although not everyone can talk, even if all the conditions are met.

[APASUS]

You can at least somehow justify the creation of an army in Afghanistan. What threats exist for the country? With a catastrophic situation in the economy, social sphere, medicine, the Taliban are concerned about security. Could this be a banal fear of losing power?

[isv000]

Quote: APASUS

You can at least somehow justify the creation of an army in Afghanistan

Can you justify the presence of an army in any other single country?

[punch]

It is unlikely that they will create anything .. No matter how they clashed with each other, when dividing trophies .. That would not be bad

[isv000]

Quote: Punsh

It is unlikely that they will create anything .. No matter how they clashed with each other, when dividing trophies .. That would not be bad

It couldn't be easier than toss a few packs of neatly cut paper to one side and announce it to the other ...

[Kerensky]

Students will put most of the trophies on the back burner, because they do not know how to use. Shooters, clothes and medicines will be taken apart by detachments. And the army will be similar to the Cossacks - gathering with your things in the right place.
They don't need a bunch of services and quartermasters.

[isv000]

Taliban do not exclude the creation of a regular army in Afghanistan

Shaw, again ?!