Ukrainian Navy intends to create the first tactical group of corvette and missile boats

In 2024, the Ukrainian Navy will receive the first tactical group, which will include an ADA-type corvette, as well as several missile boats. This was stated by the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy, Oleksiy Neizhpapa.

The first corvette built for the Ukrainian fleet in Turkey, will become part of the Ukrainian Navy in 2024, said the rear admiral. By that time, the fleet will also receive missile boats being built for Ukraine in the UK. This will help form the first tactical group, which will include a corvette and boats. The task of the group will be to protect Ukrainian ships at sea from "Russian aggression".

(...) a corvette of this type will be able to implement the air defense of a tactical group of ships. (...) in 2024, the Ukrainian Navy will have the first tactical group consisting of several missile boats (...) and a corvette

- he said.

According to Neizhpapa, the corvette will receive short-range air defense systems, a modern combat control system, a radar station, a sonar for searching and detecting submarines, an electronic warfare system, etc. In addition, it will be adapted to accommodate "all currently existing types" of foreign and domestic anti-ship missiles.

The construction of the ship began this year and next year the corvette should be handed over to Ukraine for completion and equipping. It should enter the Ukrainian Navy in 2024. As previously stated in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, corvettes for the Ukrainian Navy will be armed with anti-ship missiles Harpoon, SAM VL MICA, artillery mounts OTO Melara Super Rapid (76-mm) and Millennium (35-mm), as well as machine gun mounts 12,7-mm Aselsan STAMP. The pro-submarine armament will consist of a 324-mm torpedo tube or Murene 90 Impact torpedo tubes.

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[Old ensign]

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

[credo]

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

And I'm interested in this statement of the admiral without the fleet.

Quote: Old ensign

In addition, it will be adapted to accommodate "all currently existing types" of foreign and domestic anti-ship missiles.

What is this going to be for a floating porcupine stuffed with all existing types of missiles on a corvette-class ship?
And if these "naval commanders" do not bring the Almighty, the aircraft carrier will get to imagine what they will make of it.

[alex neym_2]

Rusty "Ukraine" is already there! Stands on the slipway. But the question is: WHO WANTS WAR - UKRAINE OR RUSSIA? WHO WILL DRAPPEN FOR THIS MONEY, VALUABLE LIFE?

[Avior]

As far as can be understood, the design provides for the possibility of replacing launchers with a similar size for other types of anti-ship missiles.

[Old ensign]

Quote: Avior

As far as can be understood, the design provides for the possibility of replacing launchers with a similar size for other types of anti-ship missiles.

Hello . This is not the first time I read your comments, and I feel that you understand the topic.

[Grits]

Quote: Avior

As far as can be understood, the design provides for the possibility of replacing launchers with a similar size for other types of anti-ship missiles.

Replacing the launchers is not enough. It is also necessary to replace the entire missile system.

[Avior]

It is much easier for the anti-ship missile system than for the air defense missile system.
Especially if you foresee in advance - leave space for the control cabinet, the console and for the launchers themselves with sufficient strength and provide for the possibility of laying cables to the launcher - not a very difficult task.
It is much more difficult to replace the air defense system.

[Volkof]

They have all the clowns and everything in the future tense ... Dreamers, dreamers!

This will help shape

corvette will receive

should enter in 2024

[den3080]

Quote: credo

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

And I'm interested in this statement of the admiral without the fleet.

Quote: Old ensign

In addition, it will be adapted to accommodate "all currently existing types" of foreign and domestic anti-ship missiles.

What is this going to be for a floating porcupine stuffed with all existing types of missiles on a corvette-class ship?
And if these "naval commanders" do not bring the Almighty, the aircraft carrier will get to imagine what they will make of it.

Well, they won't forget about a couple of pig enclosures for sure.
There, in general, you can place a dozen reference huts on the deck, and with vegetable gardens.
And this ... in the space below deck ... a lot of room for cellars with homemade food. And you can cook moonshine.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

I will say without hiding, this is the killer of aircraft carriers!

It is a pity that it is unfinished.

[Finches]

Coastal missile system "Bastion" has the following technical characteristics:
the maximum number of missiles in ammunition - 24
minimum time interval between shots - 2,5 s
time to return to combat readiness from a transport vehicle - up to 5 minutes
autonomy period - within a day
the duration of autonomy with the support of the support vehicle - up to 30 days
protected length of the coastline - up to 600 km
And so forth ...
The distance to Odessa from Crimea is 200 kilometers, back and forth, XNUMX ... Let them rivet, let alone the operational space, the crew will not be able to climb the stocks ... Clowns-strategists! The entire fleet of Ukraine, together with the corvettes laid down in Turkey, falls under one salvo of one "Bastion" complex!

[t-12]

The distance to Odessa from Crimea is kilometers, back and forth, 200 ...

The distance to Crimea from Odessa is exactly the same. If the Ukrainian fleet is hit by a volley from Bastion, then the Russian fleet is hit by a salvo of Harpoons.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: t-12

gets hit by a volley of "Harpoons"

Then immediately under the Tomahawks, Tridens, Minutemans, Poseidons, Pershing and Titans!
PS But God does not give horns to a butting cow!

[KCA]

If only D2, but who will give them? Yes, and funny rockets, speed 0.85M, but "Bastion" missiles "Onyx", range of at least 600 km, speed 2.5M, and do not forget about "Zircon"

[VoldmR]

but excuse me, where are you going to fire "harpoons" from ?? from Odessa ??? I beg you ....)))) and where are you going to find vaasche, long written off, in the right quantities for the "volley"?

[Grits]

Quote: t-12

If the Ukrainian fleet is hit by a volley from Bastion, then the Russian fleet is hit by a salvo of Harpoons.

Have you heard about the range of the Harpoons? And also about their speed of movement in comparison with the Onyxes from the Bastion and about the possibilities of their destruction by air defense systems

[Prisoner]

Do you think the Americans will harness for you? Georgians and vassals in Afghanistan thought so too.

[Yaroslav Zhigulin]

Somewhere at the level of Guarding the rest to the rest of 20380 is not even close 20385 in general a different weight category

[PPD]

compare corvettes like Ada with Russian ones.

In principle, + is an analogue of our 20380.
The Turks are faster, the Guardians have a gun of more caliber, the PKR is the same, the autonomy of 10 days for both, it seems, the displacement is about the same. Comparison of the effectiveness of air defense systems is a controversial issue.
Something like this.
R.S. Turks still built Pakistan to order, like, not only to Ukraine.

[Orange bigg]

They want to build 50/50. Turkey sells ready-made corvettes to Pakistan.

In February 2021, it was announced that the plan for the construction of Ada-class corvettes provides for a much wider participation of Ukraine: the first Turkish Ada-class corvette for the Ukrainian Navy will be built according to the 50:50 formula, and its readiness for testing is expected at the level 2023 year.

If earlier the option of building the first ship entirely in Turkey was considered, now it has been decided that Ukraine itself will equip it at domestic facilities.

"At first, the Turkish side offered to completely build the first corvette at its own facilities. But after fruitful negotiations, our partners agreed that only the hull of the first ship will be built in Turkey with the participation of Ukrainian specialists."

Then the unfinished ship will be transported to a Ukrainian shipbuilding enterprise and, with the participation of Turkish specialists, will be equipped and brought to full readiness. Turkish experts have already reviewed the shipbuilding capacities of Ukraine and confirmed the technological side of such a scenario.

As it became known, the first corvette should go to state tests in 2023. In the future, all other corvettes will be built exclusively at Ukrainian facilities and with a large number of domestic components and assemblies. For example, if the first ship will have a foreign power plant, then all the rest will have turbines from Zarya-Mashproekt, and state tests of corvettes will be carried out in broad cooperation with the Turkish side.

https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/6114893.html

[donavi49]

Well, it all depends on the specific set of weapons.
The Super Rapid cannon is very good and there are a lot of shells for it - the same PFF against anti-ship missiles or SAPOMER for 20 km with correction, DART with active maneuvering (however, again, Ukrainian admirals will most likely save money and take the cheapest one). The weave is still not very good with shells.

PKR +/- is the same. You can, of course, shout for a long time that the Harpoons are so-so, but the X35 is cool or vice versa, but these are missiles of the same class.

MZA +/- is the same. Again, 35 mm AHEAD (programmable LMS at the time of the shot) shells rule, this does not flood the sector, hoping to translate quantity into quality.

MU90 - excellent torpedoes, better than MK46. Again, setup is easy. Covers all tasks. It can be charged at sea, and even if the ship's energy is lost, torpedoes can be loaded and fired. The package-NK at 20380 is charged only in the port, again in a batch method (that is, the container is thrown away). There was a big article on the site on the topic of how the Navy ran after the expensive crane in the sky (Package), forgetting about real needs.

The radar is one of the best European (or even world) SMART-S Mk2. He has proven himself excellently from small corvettes to even frigates. Problems with the radar in the first 20380 series (where they fired through the Puma) and the new ones with Zaslon were again highlighted on Topvar.

Mika - again, how much they will deliver, in fact, there are two options 8/16 (in 20380 - 12). The rocket is good, there are two options for radar and thermal seeker.

Again, if we take the option with Mika, I would bet on Ada, due to the elaboration and mass character of the systems, as well as paper capabilities, so to speak (that is, it is not a fact that they will buy something other than cast iron for the guns, but by the same Mikami / Harpoon will fire once at acceptance, and the rest will be electronic launches). If we take the Turkish version with RIM-116, then I would put it on 20380, nevertheless RIM is a completely different class, which is good as an auxiliary complement or for Buyan-type ships, but not for a corvette.

[vladcub]

As far as I understand the Turks and 20380 are almost equal. In some respects the Turks, but in others 20380.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare corvettes of the Ada type with Russian

From 20385? or 20380?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

... The displacement of the Ada corvettes is 2000 tons, the draft is 3,7 meters. The length of the ship is 99 meters, the maximum width is 14,5 meters.

Combined propulsion system, CODAG system. Those. it includes both diesel and gas turbine engines. Working together, the engines develop power up to the 40800 HP. and accelerate the ship to 29 nodes. With more economical engine operating modes, the ship has a cruising range of up to 3,5 thousand nautical miles. The autonomy of swimming "Ada" - about three weeks. The crew of the early ships of the program MILGEN - 93 man.

Armament "Heybeliada" and its "sistership" has in its composition three barrel armament: one artillery caliber 76 mm and two large-caliber (12,7 mm) machine gun Alesan.

Protection of the ship from air targets is designed to implement the Mk-41VLS SAM. Ammunition - 21 rocket.

For the attack of surface targets, the Ada corvettes have eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles and two built-in torpedo tubes of caliber 324 mm each.

Also, the corvettes can carry one S-70B2 Sea Hawk helicopter, which has a set of equipment for detecting submarines and the possibility of torpedo suspension.

https://topwar.ru/7359-samohodnye-tureckie-ostrova-s-raketami.html

[vladcub]

The question was removed from the tongue: which of the comrades can enlighten us

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

And I like Ukrainian wisdom. - "Ne kazhi gop, do not jump!" Will not interfere with niizhpapa and his mother!

[NDR-791]

The task of the group will be to protect Ukrainian ships at sea from "Russian aggression."
And then such a bummer, the ships of the "aggressor" did not go into the sea ... Did it come from the shore? Oh, and we didn’t think ...

[Orange bigg]

The photo shows the launchers of the coastal anti-ship complex Ball with Kh-35U missiles, which is in service with the RF Ministry of Defense. So that someone does not confuse something.

[Popandos]

In 2024, the Ukrainian Navy will receive the first tactical group, which will include an ADA-type corvette, as well as several missile boats.

There are no ships and crews yet, but the group already seems to be there, you can attach a "godfather" to the admirals.

[rocket757]

In 2024, the Ukrainian Navy will receive the first tactical group, which will include an ADA-type corvette, as well as several missile boats. This was stated by the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy, Oleksiy Neizhpapa.

Not everyone will wait for that "holiday" and not in their current positions ...

[Ros 56]

The problem is not to create, but to survive. And what's the point of proving something to these dumbbells.

[prior]

Russian aggression is so aggressive that neither the first tactical group nor even the second will save from it.
It is enough to turn off the light at the base of this group, as corpses will remain from the group.

[sagitovich]

In addition, it will be adapted to accommodate "all currently existing types" of foreign and domestic anti-ship missiles.

For Russian adapt right away ...

[askort154]

The task of the group will be to protect Ukrainian ships at sea from "Russian aggression."

"Russian aggression" is the most popular Ukrainian-Ukrainian fake product
for Western Russophobic wallets. They themselves drown in their feces, but
They shout furiously - this is "Russian aggression". Khokhlo-maidanutness is no longer curable without surgical intervention.

[Sands Careers General]

Not a bad target for Russian missiles))

[faiver]

it's not good to squander trophies, though they haven't been built yet ...

[Bumblebee_3]

Sand Quarry General (Zhora)

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Not a bad target for Russian missiles))

In the mosquito fleet with missiles? It's like sparrows from a cannon.

[Sands Careers General]

Although I am a landlord according to the VUS, I also understand that it is not necessary to scare missiles at the target, it is possible so that the Sumerians with full dung trousers will run away ahead of their own screeching by swimming, fathoms))
What is actually required.

[Sands Careers General]

[quote = General of Sand Quarries
What is actually required. [/ Quote]

What is actually required to prove. Sharovarniki are minus. How funny it is to send patches to protect the dupu from fire?

[Dart2027]

If the Turks built inside and out, then maybe something would have happened. But the words

the corvette should be handed over to Ukraine for completion and equipping

mean that it will not be completed.

[Old ensign]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Quote: Old ensign

It is interesting to compare the corvettes of the Ada type with the Russian ones. Who is strong in this?

... The displacement of the Ada corvettes is 2000 tons, the draft is 3,7 meters. The length of the ship is 99 meters, the maximum width is 14,5 meters.

Combined propulsion system, CODAG system. Those. it includes both diesel and gas turbine engines. Working together, the engines develop power up to the 40800 HP. and accelerate the ship to 29 nodes. With more economical engine operating modes, the ship has a cruising range of up to 3,5 thousand nautical miles. The autonomy of swimming "Ada" - about three weeks. The crew of the early ships of the program MILGEN - 93 man.

Armament "Heybeliada" and its "sistership" has in its composition three barrel armament: one artillery caliber 76 mm and two large-caliber (12,7 mm) machine gun Alesan.

Protection of the ship from air targets is designed to implement the Mk-41VLS SAM. Ammunition - 21 rocket.

For the attack of surface targets, the Ada corvettes have eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles and two built-in torpedo tubes of caliber 324 mm each.

Also, the corvettes can carry one S-70B2 Sea Hawk helicopter, which has a set of equipment for detecting submarines and the possibility of torpedo suspension.

https://topwar.ru/7359-samohodnye-tureckie-ostrova-s-raketami.html

Thank you!

[xomaNN]

And on the "thrown" - almost a dozen former TFR. Naval Forces of Ukraine, which have defended in the bays of Sevastopol since 2014 uk..r. Have you forgotten? Have you put an end to the return?
So can the Black Sea Fleet create a separate flotilla out of them to spite Odessa? And put them on duty about about. Serpentine? Troll, so to speak

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: xomaNN

And on the "thrown" - almost a dozen former TFR. Naval Forces of Ukraine, which have defended in the bays of Sevastopol since 2014 uk..r. Have you forgotten? Have you put an end to the return?
So can the Black Sea Fleet create a separate flotilla out of them to spite Odessa? And put them on duty about about. Serpentine? Troll, so to speak

To withdraw and flood near Sevastopol. There will be artificial reefs for marine life .. So at least some kind of benefit.

[Rurikovich]

This will help form the first tactical group, which will include a corvette and boats.

I translate, as seen in the depths of the subconscious by the Sumerians themselves

[babylon]

Oh, and we will play out in tolerance with these maydanuty

[ultra]

Quote: vavilon

Oh, and we will play out in tolerance with these maydanuty

Undoubtedly, the sabotage in the Crimea has just been released on the brakes and says a lot.

[demiurg]

Quote: PPD

compare corvettes like Ada with Russian ones.

In principle, + is an analogue of our 20380.
The Turks are faster, the Guardians have a gun of more caliber, the PKR is the same, the autonomy of 10 days for both, it seems, the displacement is about the same. Comparison of the effectiveness of air defense systems is a controversial issue.
Something like this.
R.S. Turks still built Pakistan to order, like, not only to Ukraine.

Only instead of the Redoubt, the SAM is not even of the Pantsyr's level, either in range or in height.
20380 actually has four air defense lines Redoubt-Pantsyr rocket-100mm metal-cutting cannon.
past the Turkish corvette at a distance of 20 km, and above nine km you can fly even on hot air balloons.

[PPD]

With Redoubt, too, not everything is cloudless.
Hovering problems.
But it takes a long time to write about it.
Everything is written.
And it doesn't matter, they asked about the analogs.
To understand what it is.
And these are details and subtleties.
With a lot of discussions.

[vladcub]

"in Turkey", but are they too weak to build?

[rusich]

The question is, are corvettes and missile boats made of rubber too ?????????

[Nikita, f]

There is no Ukrainian corvette in nature yet)) in 2024 we will see it, although they have been building one corvette for 10 years, so we may not see it)

[Nikita, f]

That feeling when the air defense of this corvette in height does not reach the Russian aggression of 9 km, su34 calmly at an altitude of 12 km drops the adjusted air defense of the ship trying to understand how her life came to this

[Vladimir61]

God! Yes, give them a piece of the sea and inflatable boats where the usrainian sea wolves can satisfy their ambitions. Even in children without a sandbox and plastic pans, this causes mental trauma, but here whole admirals suffer.

[Nikita, f]

These are not inflatable, but future submarines.