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Crypt, dollar? No - metal

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Take care of tin from a young age



The stimulus for another conversation about means of savings was not only the recent announcement that Russian parliamentarians are ready to withdraw coins from circulation. The idea itself is quite entitled not only to exist, but also to be implemented.

In the end, it's enough to tear your pockets in vain, spend more on the production of coins than they are worth, and groan about the forgotten penny at the same time. Other times, different life, different customs. Everything today is in gadgets, and the generation that has not mastered them will sooner rather than later die out.

Forgive me, dear readers, for such cynicism, or rather, realism. However, the desire to save, or even better - to multiply what has been earned, sometimes really - "backbreaking work", will not go anywhere. Otherwise, after all, just everything will become extinct. But, as that very life shows, sometimes there is simply nowhere to invest.


Readers pushed to write, as well as strange-looking passers-by in the capital and in the cities near Moscow, who again began to collect cans. They say that in Russia there is again a shortage of scrap metal, including aluminum, and metallurgical plants are ready to pay big money for it.

The bum pickers who are not embarrassed that half of their goods are still taken to landfills, of course, are not investors or investors. But it’s just an investor who is not a large and rich one that makes you think. Simple and poor.

If metal is still needed, and will always be needed, then why not invest in it. After all, bank deposits burn like black, because they do not keep pace with inflation, and real estate is aging and decaying faster than it rises in price.

No, from metals, of course, the first is gold, but whoever does not say anything about it, and selling it without loss, compared to the purchase price, is another problem. There is also platinum, there are still very few familiar and really unique elements from the periodic table, but there are many simpler ones.

Either utopia or dystopia


There is copper, and the same aluminum and silver, but the main thing is iron. The foundation of the very industry, from which we will not go anywhere for a very long time. Rails and fittings, bodies for cars, and frames, and axles, and engines, and whatever you take, you will still catch on to the Fe-ferrum.

Metals, and any - ferrous, non-ferrous, rare and rare-earth, and even more so precious, will be in price for a very long time. Agree, there is no getting away from this. Moreover, prices for the vast majority of metals are unlikely to ever decline.

Storiesthat happened with silver and much later, with aluminum, which from expensive and even very expensive turned into generally cheap ones, will definitely not be repeated. The Earth simply cannot make such gifts to people anymore.

Why such a lengthy passage?

And to the fact that the idea of ​​fixing your own savings in metal, and not necessarily in gold or platinum, is not at all so crazy. Even against the background of the widespread refusal of the townsfolk from coins, as well as from paper bills.

At the same time, one should not forget that we have been dealing with electronic money for only a few decades, and even less with some cryptocurrencies. And since, in fact, money is nothing more than a surrogate for trust, it is not worth attaching too much importance to their form.

The era of digital money may also end, although even the most advanced science fiction writers cannot imagine what will replace digital money. Utopians or dystopians - it doesn't matter.


Bitcoin hasn't done its job yet, Bitcoin can't leave


They came up with bitcoin not so long ago. And it grew by leaps and bounds, and then it crashed so badly that among the few owners, in all likelihood, the percentage of heart attacks and suicides, God forbid, grew infinitely.

Now this thing feels better, although experts from the energy sector argue that mining, that is, the generation of electronic money in the worldwide network, is becoming more and more expensive every day. This refers to the cost of bitcoin in kilowatts.

In this regard, the likelihood that with an increase in the volume of turnover of cryptocurrencies, they will again fall in price, remains very high. And the whole question is only in time.

By the way, there is also a conspiracy theory about this.

It says that the viruses that began with SARS-CoV-2, that is, the original nineteenth covid, were launched only in order to weaken the blow to Bitcoin.

Should we take this version on faith? It's a personal matter for everyone. But look at the charts - when the WHO pandemic was just launched, cryptocurrencies just returned to growth trajectories.

And the dollar can already


The fact that in the event of all sorts of shocks, the citizens of Russia, first of all, seek to hide their savings in foreign currency, primarily in dollars, is not surprising. We have been taught to this for too long. There was a dollar, there is a dollar, but whether there will be - there are more and more doubts.

Russians were almost weaned from investing in it by default, devaluations, crises and sanctions. But most of all - simply by the lack of what should and can be saved. Something in exchange for the dollar will not be offered immediately. Metals, other than gold, perhaps last.

But, it seems, you still have to, because against the dollar and the fact that there are so many of it hanging around the world that you cannot count it, and that there are more debts under it than the whole world will not earn over the years. It is time to carry out something like netting and clearing non-payments, as in Russia at the turn of 1998 and 1999.


And also because the dollar is no longer saved by the war - Afghanistan and Syria are direct evidence of this. Another war, no matter how small and victorious it may be, motley green with portraits of Benjamin Franklin and various presidents can simply not stand it.

Well, with the metal alternative, everything is very difficult, alas.

You won't keep anything in ingots except gold and platinum, which means that intermediaries will be needed again and will immediately appear. Just click. And even if it will not be banks - who does it make it easier?

A simple, poor and unadvanced investor will again remain on the beans. It will save - perhaps, but to multiply it is unlikely, sorry for being straightforward.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 9 September 2021 15: 07
    +10
    My mother recalled how, when she was young, when she worked in the Arctic, one of her friends, from each salary, bought one gold thing (the simplest one) and put it in a liter jar ...
    What a clever wife that got to someone!
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 9 September 2021 15: 26
      +2
      from each salary I bought one gold thing (the simplest one) and put it in a liter jar ...
      Gold has not yet recovered from the fall of the beginning of the year (whether it will recover), the crypt is an engaged instrument. After the end of the pandemic and economic recovery, money from savings instruments went to the stock exchange.
      1. Civil
        Civil 9 September 2021 17: 58
        +7
        So far, I kept everything in dollars in our country, always in the pros or with my own. I propose to the patriots to sell real estate in Europe and keep the loot in rubles. We bet there will be no such. lol
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 9 September 2021 18: 01
          +4
          So far, I kept everything in dollars in our country, always in the pros or with my own.
          You probably just didn't know))
          1. ximkim
            ximkim 9 September 2021 18: 23
            +2
            Buried for a long time)
          2. Disant
            Disant 9 September 2021 22: 18
            +2
            You probably just didn't know))

            the music is creditable, but everything is true in essence, even these ripped out phrases.
            inflation is a legal way to rob.
            and rob the whole world, including themselves, in order to pay off debts and live well.
            .
            in the language of the video - over the past 40 years - the dollar has fallen in price at least 4 times, and over 100 years - 32 times.
            1. Trapp1st
              Trapp1st 10 September 2021 09: 53
              +2
              inflation is a legal way to rob ... in the language of the video - over the past 40 years - the dollar has fallen in price by 4 times at least
              Then it is clear who is robbing whom, in 30 years the ruble has fallen in price by almost 75 times)
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 10 September 2021 20: 07
              0
              Quote: Disant
              in the language of the video - over the past 40 years - the dollar has fallen in price at least 4 times, and over 100 years - 32 times.

              And cut .. cut over the past 30 years, how much has fallen in price ..?
    2. knn54
      knn54 9 September 2021 15: 27
      +3
      The question is the desire to make money quickly or keep your savings?
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 9 September 2021 17: 01
        +1
        Both.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 September 2021 15: 33
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      My mother recalled how in her youth, when she worked in the Arctic

      What is there to remember? Not everyone was able to work in the North, but everyone knew that prices for basic goods were kept for years.
      Today, when the established inflation rate in the country devalues ​​savings twice every 15-20 years, it is ridiculous to talk about ways to preserve savings. When gold mining is transferred to private hands, and the number of banks in the country exceeds all reasonable standards, it is better to keep money in foreign currency ...
      1. for
        for 9 September 2021 23: 03
        +3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        it's better to keep money in foreign currency ...

        Better yet, spend it.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 10 September 2021 03: 45
          +4
          Quote: for
          Better yet, spend it.

          There are things that you can't buy with your salary - you have to either save up, or take out loans and pay double the amount. I took out a loan only once in my life in 1979 at 4% - I wanted to buy all the furniture for the apartment at once. Today I go around the bank barkers.
    4. sagitovich
      sagitovich 10 September 2021 10: 22
      +1
      Any product has a price for its manufacture. Try and sell these simple gold trinkets later.
  2. Naz
    Naz 9 September 2021 15: 23
    +2
    Most likely, you need to remove the zeros, not coins, as history suggests. True, the people will suffer again.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 September 2021 03: 55
      +3
      Quote: Naz
      Most likely, you need to remove the zeros, not coins, as history suggests. True, the people will suffer again.

      As long as Russia is a raw material appendage, no one will carry out the denomination (unless, of course, inflation turns us all back into "millionaires").
      The supporters of the new socialism propose to revive the domestic industry and industry. Some of us forget that market relations are also bazaar showdowns and the substitution of legislation by telephone law and the right of the wallet. The state apparatus is created (should be created) not to fill one's own pockets, but to build a legal system and regulate the financial one.
      Forgive me, but to call state relations, when the president of the country cannot do anything about corruption, inflation, growth of production, does not turn his tongue. And there is no time left to wait for a bright tomorrow.
  3. Eug
    Eug 9 September 2021 15: 23
    +1
    Already in construction, plastic reinforcement is used in full swing, there is no need to talk about plastic pipes, and it seems there are plastics with specific characteristics higher than some metals. Carbons will cease to be an energy raw material and will become much wider chemical than they are now. Metals, of course, will remain, but they will "move" a lot.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 September 2021 16: 10
      +4
      Quote: Eug
      Plastic fittings are already being used in construction

      Restrictions on the number of storeys in construction.
      Metal while driving.
      And again Furgal came to mind, and the real reason for his landing was the refusal to sell Rotenberg a 25% stake in AMZ.
      1. Eug
        Eug 9 September 2021 19: 17
        +2
        I agree with you. But you must agree, and you are mine - you have pressed metal in building structures, although not everywhere and not radically. As for Furgal, as far as I know, money from the federal budget for the production of structures for the Sakhalin Bridge should have fallen to the metal plant. Furgal was asked to move, he did not want to and received a sad result. Before Euro 2012, we had a very similar situation in Kharkiv, although, of course, incomparable in scale ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 September 2021 19: 40
          +1
          Quote: Eug
          metal in building structures has been pushed aside

          In the field of low-rise construction, yes. And then, it is limited.
          And so all monolithic high-rise buildings are only metal.
          For Furgal, you described everything correctly. hi
  4. paul3390
    paul3390 9 September 2021 15: 27
    +10
    Money must be kept in weapons-grade uranium with plutonium .. bully For the product is a popular one, there are plenty of people who want it. And if the West is dissatisfied with something - let him buy my share himself. Otherwise, let's say I will sell to the Juche, or to the Ayatollahs .. laughing And what - to save up for old age, say one and a half warheads - is a nice thing, no inflation is scary .. tongue
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 9 September 2021 23: 41
      0
      Quote: paul3390
      In weapons-grade uranium with plutonium, you need to store money .. For the product is a popular one, there are plenty of people who want it. And if the West is dissatisfied with something - let him buy my share himself. Otherwise, let's say I'll sell it to the Juchkheis, or to the Ayatollahs .. And what - to save up for old age, let's say one and a half warheads - is a nice thing, no inflation is scary ..

      So we all think, but there is a whole country and they all have a profit! yes
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 9 September 2021 23: 44
      +1
      Quote: paul3390
      Money must be kept in weapons-grade uranium with plutonium ..

      And there, too, inflation - they half-decay ... Something more fundamental is needed. Maybe buy a site on the moon? yes
    3. 72jora72
      72jora72 11 September 2021 07: 10
      +1
      In weapons-grade uranium with plutonium, you need to keep money .. bully For the goods are popular,
      Buy canned food and shotguns ... (c).
  5. sergo1914
    sergo1914 9 September 2021 15: 30
    +9
    Installing 50 meters of a fence made of profiled sheet on pillars-screw piles the spring before last, I could not even think that I was becoming a major investor.
    1. for
      for 9 September 2021 23: 08
      +2
      Quote: sergo1914
      that I am becoming a major investor.

      The wooden one would be even larger than the steel.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 10 September 2021 07: 11
        +2
        Quote: for
        Quote: sergo1914
        that I am becoming a major investor.

        The wooden one would be even larger than the steel.


        Wooden house. Three KAMAZ profiled timber.
  6. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 9 September 2021 15: 31
    +1
    There are more than 2000 of these cryptocurrencies-suckers .. And after all, they are being conducted.
  7. Yuri Grubov
    Yuri Grubov 9 September 2021 15: 33
    +1
    Should you read the article after the passage on the value of coins?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 9 September 2021 15: 37
    +4
    A simple, poor and unadvanced investor will again remain on the beans. It will save - perhaps, but to multiply it is unlikely, sorry for being straightforward.
    ... "CASINO" is always the winner!
    1. Civil
      Civil 9 September 2021 17: 59
      +7
      Quote: rocket757
      "CASINO" is always the winner!

      If you want to win at a casino - buy yourself a casino)
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 September 2021 21: 23
        +3
        It is rightly noted ... however, it is obvious, whoever has, he has all the rest, who does not!
  9. nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 September 2021 15: 39
    +3
    Bitcoin is still a virtual currency. Since 2010, I have had a lot of virtual things on my computer. Some disappeared, others stopped working. I'm not a prophet, but I think it will be the same with Bitcoin. Or maybe this is a project of several people.
    1. Archon
      Archon 10 September 2021 07: 35
      0
      The ones that stopped working can sometimes be run in emulators or on Linux.
  10. Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 September 2021 15: 42
    +4
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    My mother recalled how, when she was young, when she worked in the Arctic, one of her friends, from each salary, bought one gold thing (the simplest one) and put it in a liter jar ...

    The liquidity issue is always relevant.

    The bank can burst, the bank can be stolen.
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 9 September 2021 15: 50
      +10
      Quote: Pavel57
      The liquidity issue is always relevant.

      The bank can burst, the bank can be stolen.

      Let me correct you a little: you mentioned not liquidity, but riskiness. Liquidity is the ability to quickly turn savings into money - to sell.
  11. air wolf
    air wolf 9 September 2021 15: 46
    +1
    Barter will return, it has already returned, the dollar and the euro are not backed by anything, and this is a fact, cryptocurrency is a soap bubble, incomprehensible numbers, the Internet has stopped and it is gone! And the ruble is backed by gold and other valuable metals, oil, gas, steel, grain, military equipment, wood, etc., and the currency of a potential enemy is in use because our so-called elite lives beyond the cordon, and is ready to run there at any moment , so everything is sold, squeezed out and it won't be better! All to the polls!
    1. Disant
      Disant 9 September 2021 22: 38
      +1
      And the ruble is backed by gold

      where do they change? And then they already hesitated to change money for dollars and take it to offshore and hide it. Help
  12. Vavilov
    Vavilov 9 September 2021 15: 53
    +1
    it is necessary to invest in the field of miracles, for all the money! laughing in general, investment is a constantly changing value, it must be constantly monitored and shifted, essno taking into account the risk, there is no advice, everything is changing, except for people hi
  13. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 September 2021 16: 04
    +7
    What is this article about? Understood nothing. Did the author want to keep the savings in the metal? The whole result of the article is about the fact that this is impossible to do. Illiterate reasoning about bitcoin, the essence of which the author did not understand. Moans about unstable currencies, all without conclusions, no thought. What is it all about?
  14. ximkim
    ximkim 9 September 2021 17: 00
    +2
    Well, yes.
    It is not necessary to cling only to gold, you only need to look around, there are other options.
    And those earned by "hard work" in the bank or under the mattress do not multiply by themselves.
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 September 2021 00: 03
    0
    Quote: Galleon
    Quote: Pavel57
    The liquidity issue is always relevant.

    The bank can burst, the bank can be stolen.

    Let me correct you a little: you mentioned not liquidity, but riskiness. Liquidity is the ability to quickly turn savings into money - to sell.

    It was in this context that I meant liquidity. Any non-cash accumulation carries a liquidity risk. Especially gold jewelry.

    And the risks are present with jars and glass jars.
  16. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 September 2021 00: 13
    0
    Yeah, and here, too, it is tempting to reconsider the "short rate of the dollar's fall".

    You can see the dollar to ruble exchange rate over the years, and read about the rise in prices in Omerik and compare with the prices in Pyaterochka, for example.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 10 September 2021 07: 42
      +2
      So there is also a universal yardstick - the cost of a burger at McDuck. laughing
      Laughter, laughter, but quite a relevant metric.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 10 September 2021 16: 57
        0
        No, this is pure PR, even in the films it was about these blown away McDucks
        If we do, then a few blind randomized studies.))))

        bread, cheese, eggs, Coffee, sugar, sausage, curds
        About 15 years ago Glazed Cheesecake RasAgroProm cost 4-5 rubles, now 19-20 rubles
  17. Mustached Kok
    Mustached Kok 10 September 2021 10: 38
    +1
    The idea of ​​sticking to metal is certainly a sensible thing. But it is not completely clear what the author proposes to pour money into? In papers (stocks and vouchers of metals) or in industry (mining, metalworking and mechanical engineering). If the first is not a contribution but a fiction. After all, deposits in any securities carry only one benefit, financial at the time of the price increase. Not to mention the fact that this is not a stable income, you can easily burn out. Production is another matter. It brings not only financial profit, but also develops other areas in the country. Maintains the qualification level of citizens, provides jobs, serves as an element of production for other industries. The pay is, of course, high for some - huge start-up investments and significantly lower profits and return on investment. One deal to sell a stock (which can last a few seconds) can generate more than a week of work for a steel mill. The rols roys plant has never made more profits than some large office on wall st. But the Rols Roys plant will continue to exist for many, many years, bringing benefits to many, secured by tangible goods. But the office can be disbanded at any time
  18. bk316
    bk316 10 September 2021 16: 11
    0
    Uh ... what about the article.
    What a speculator, forgive an investor is also a profession?
    Well, that's understandable.

    A quick overview of investment targets?
    Then why isn't one of the most profitable and liquid ones considered?
    I'm talking about real estate. 3 two-room apartments in Moscow or the region or in any millionaire provide a comfortable old age on "coupon income" that is, rent. And the fixed capital itself (apartment) is practically not subject to inflation.

    That the buck will die?
    So this is also obvious: everything will die someday!
    The whole question is when ...