"More dangerous than all existing threats": reflections on global climate change

While the attention of almost the entire world is riveted on Afghanistan, scientists are sounding the alarm about a much more threatening situation. No Taliban terrorists (banned in Russia) compare to this threat. What are we talking about?

We are talking about global climate change. In recent years, natural disasters have manifested themselves more and more often. Meteorologists report drier summers even in places where the humidity level was previously very high. Fires, desertification. Warming threatens the melting of the millennial glaciers of Greenland and Antarctica. In turn, this melting can cause tsunamis and floods that have not yet been known to humanity.

Such apocalyptic forecasts are drawn by climatologists from around the world. They urge not to ignore climate changes that are occurring on a global scale today and can be easily recorded not only with the help of special equipment, but also with the “naked eye”.

It was noted that this is more dangerous than all the threats that humanity faces today.

Konstantin Semin reflects on global warming, on the impact of forecasts on politics and the economy in the world in the plot of "Agitprop":

Comments

[svp67]

It's about global climate change

Which occur cyclically, whether a person wants it or not ... Global warming, like the unification of processes, which a person affects in VERY and VERY small quantities, but someone can make good money on this, as in his time on the "problem" of "ozone holes "

[antivirus]

it's not just ozone - but also the import of refrigerants. production in the USSR ended, the Russian Federation did not support .. funny. the goals set 40 years ago were achieved by the West

[hohol95]

The ozone hole was something ...
Then they began to "tell tales about terrible pesticide" vegetables from the Soviet fields ... And about "cute, nitrate-free" vegetables from Western farmers ...
And they are "native", it turns out they do not regret fertilizers to get 200 centners of "potite" from 1 hectare ...

[Motorist]

Quote: hohol95

The ozone hole was something ...

Asbestos. New feature in the fleet. Money vacuum cleaner! There is also ceramic wool (thermal insulation) - soon they will also make it a carcinogen.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hohol95

Then they began to "tell tales about terrible pesticide" vegetables from the Soviet fields ...

It was not for nothing that Vysotsky sang about them - "sometimes the dogs bark, sometimes they scare them with plates, sometimes they say the ruins ..."

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: svp67

but someone can make good money on this,

And not just good, but obscenely healthy. And therefore, there will be green energy, and requirements for the replacement and purchase of new generating equipment, and sanctions, "and running, and running, and running"!

[NDR-791]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

And therefore, there will be green energy, and requirements for the replacement and purchase of new generating equipment, and sanctions, "and running, and running, and running"!

Already !!! Again, we are concerned about the harmfulness of refrigerants. They already predict a shortage of refrigerators Only this time it is not Dupont who bends the whole world, but someone sly-ass is trying to bend Dupont. And Greta to help them and farting sheep and cows and even mine gases

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

Which occur cyclically, whether a person wants it or not ..

And this has been happening for millions of years, and the same amount will continue to happen.

[paul3390]

Yes. Avon - the great drought 4200 years ago. When the Ancient Kingdom of Egypt fell, the Akkadian Empire and the Harappan civilization fell into decay .. And all this - pay attention, without any type of carbon footprint ..

[svp67]

Quote: paul3390

Yes. Avon - the great drought 4200 years ago.

Read why the Time of Troubles began in Russia at the beginning of the 17th century and what was to blame ..

[paul3390]

Yes, I know. That is why I say that all this is razvodilovo, such as the fight against warming.

[knn54]

Less trees need to be cut down, especially in the Amazon Basin.
Only Zelensky can save, who, in a short period, promised to plant a billion seedlings.

[Egor53]

40 years ago, climatological scientists greeted, tirelessly, about the worldwide cooling. Now they are talking about global warming.
Periodic climate changes have always been, and always will be. The person does not influence these changes in any way.
1000 years ago, the average annual temperature in Europe was 8 ° C higher than it is now. And the level of the oceans did not change in any way.
There have always been fires, droughts and floods. Only in ancient Rome no one knew anything about the fires in Yakutia and Australia.
The climatologist is a charlatan.

[El Chuvachino]

That's why we are starting to have problems with buildings and communications on the permafrost. Garbage, in fact, you have to understand.

[Siberian54]

Yes ! They violated the thermal insulation (a layer of moss), so the problem started, the same climatologists - the permafrost has not changed

[Flooding]

Quote: Egor53

And the level of the oceans did not change in any way.

but in a larger retrospective, the ocean level changed significantly
this is clear even without the hints of the Internet
after all, it was by dry route that humanity came to the continents that we now call America

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egor53

Only in ancient Rome no one knew anything about the fires in Yakutia and Australia.

The Internet was then turned off in ancient Rome.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tihonmarine

disabled.

For non-payment!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

For non-payment!

And in ancient Rome, the "freebie" was strictly monitored.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tihonmarine

strictly followed

And nefig state sesterces to spend on heterosexuals!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Egor53

The climatologist is a charlatan.

Moreover, if it is an English scientist!

[knn54]

-Egor53: 40 years ago, scientists-climatologists gurgled, tirelessly, about the worldwide cooling. Now they are talking about global warming.
EVERYTHING is connected, the glaciers are melting
Antarctica. The ocean "grows greener". The Gulf Stream will soon not reach Africa.
That is, warming threatens to turn into a cold snap.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

That is, warming threatens to turn into a cold snap.

If all these scientists are to be believed, the earth should have either frozen or gone under water.

[Maks1995]

If earlier the warming in the Russian Federation was denied, they laughed and drove the green and foreign gretta, now even Gazprom's money is not enough to deny the problem.

A bunch of real scientists are confirming the problem and showing the future difficulties. The Kremlin does not shy away from deforestation and promises hydrogen and batteries.

But Semin ... how hasn't he been cleaned out yet, along with the others?

[rocket757]

It's about global climate change

simple question, what's wrong? The planet lives its own life, and humanity has only two main tasks !!!
Do not aggravate your situation and adapt to climate change!
Everything invented by someone, humanity, "the crown of creation, the kings of nature" ... all this is very conditional, for complacency. In fact, as we depended on the planet, we are still dependent!

[belly]

Quite an old, but sensible article with an analysis of the history of the issue. Written with emphasis on data from the UN Climate Committee, with links to official bulletins. The author is an echidna, of course, but he speaks maliciously.
http://alternathistory.com/o-sotsialnom-optimizme/

[rocket757]

Such apocalyptic forecasts are drawn by climatologists from around the world.

... Too little people are engaged in the systematic study of global processes occurring in nature!
This is not a reason for refusing to make forecasts, but everything must be done more carefully !!! Without hasty, unreasonable, conclusions.
It is NOT POSSIBLE to be ready for anything and always, but they hope, maybe it will carry, is also not reasonable.
As always, the golden mean. Do not panic, how much in vain, but also do not relax beyond measure.

[aybolyt678]

in general, I am for warming! Siberia will be warmer, the Arctic will melt and become navigable!

[Liam]

Quote: aybolyt678

in general, I am for warming! Siberia will be warmer, the Arctic will melt and become navigable!

Siberia will become an impenetrable swamp for many thousands of years when the permafrost melts

[Konnick]

Siberia will become an impenetrable swamp for many thousands of years when the permafrost melts

You can't say so categorically. To know the future of Siberia, you need to know the past of those places. As a real example of a territory that used to be permafrost, and then it disappeared, one can cite the territory of the Leningrad Region, the Baltic States and the Kaliningrad Region. 20 thousand years ago (during the last ice age) there was permafrost. Then she disappeared. What happened - you can easily see with your own eyes just walking in the vicinity of St. Petersburg. This is a plain, while Siberia has a completely different relief. The frozen soil does not allow moisture to pass through, keeping it on the surface, but it will melt and the water will leave. Think of spring and snowmelt.

[Liam]

Quote: Konnick

What happened - you can easily see with your own eyes just walking in the vicinity of St. Petersburg.

Exactly, in 20.000 years it will be more or less dry. 20.000 years will pass quickly

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Liam

Siberia will become an impenetrable swamp for many thousands of years when the permafrost melts

you know the anecdote about two impotent people, an optimist and a pessimist? the pessimist is sad - here he hangs, the optimist is happy - but how he hangs!
Omsk is 90 meters above sea level, so it will not become a swamp. In any case, it was already hot in Siberia, mammoths with rhinos lived, which means there were evergreens or so. It won't get worse, rather better

[Liam]

Quote: aybolyt678

the optimist is happy - but how dangling !!

I apologize ... In our discussion you are acting as an optimist, as I understand it?
Mammoths in Siberia lived while it was cold, but as the ice age ended and it became warm, they somehow massively and very quickly died out, perhaps because they are not swamp walkers at all.

Quote: aybolyt678

Omsk is 90 meters above sea level, so it will not become a swamp.

We probably took different courses in geography. The height above sea level will never prevent a swamp from becoming a swamp. There are slightly different reasons. Here are the famous Pinsk (Pripyat) bogs feel great at an altitude of 135 meters.

So for Omsk I would not be so calm

[aybolyt678]

Thanks for the invitation to the debate!

Quote: Liam

Mammoths lived in Siberia while it was cold.

mammoths are large herbivores. Monogastric. that is, they do not have a scar like artiodactyls. Therefore, the efficiency of digestion is rather low. They do not hibernate like bears, so they need juicy food all year round. In the cold, they will not last more than 2-3 months.
In addition, there were many large predators at that time, which indicates a good food supply. There were many animals. in the North - the reindeer is small .....

[nerd.su]

Quote: Liam

The height above sea level will never prevent a swamp from becoming a swamp. There are slightly different reasons.

So tell us about these reasons. And then we will understand why the tundra is a huge swamp on the permafrost and what will happen to it as the permafrost melts. Let's see what kind of geography courses you have ...

[Siberian54]

The Pleistocene steppes were not swamped thanks to mammoths and rhinos, which trodden the beds of streams and small rivers, as they began to leave, and swamps came after them

[Baloo]

Without forests, the climate becomes harsher. What the audience is happy about is not clear to me. I don't share the audience's optimism.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Balu

Without forests, the climate becomes harsher. What the audience is happy about is not clear to me. I don't share the audience's optimism.

In the first place, why without a forest? How does a forest differ from corn crops? the same organic photosynthesis? secondly, what does tougher mean? In my Siberia, the last two winters are very mild, in summer it was hot, good. Siberia is much larger than Crimea ...

[nikvic46]

In Abkhazia, where I was in 1965, a local resident showed me the mountains. And earlier on them (on the mountains) snow remained until July. It turns out that the warming began a long time ago. And the water in the seas comes. It is clear that there will be people on warming who will speculate on this. And than not a welfare state, there will be more speculations. The less educated are easier to fool. There have been periods of warming and cooling all the time. Greenland is a green land after all, it is not a mockery of that name.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: nikvic46

The less educated are easier to be fooled. There have been periods of warming and cooling all the time.

I read a book by the American paleontologist Neil Shubin "The Universe Within Us", he interestingly proves there that before microorganisms there was almost no water on Earth, and water arose precisely as a result of life on Earth. And before the oceans were shallow

Quote: nikvic46

And the water in the seas comes.

that's why. Only now there is less and less internal heat of the Earth, but more activity of the Sun and more greenhouse gases and, accordingly, steam. That evens out the climate and warms the cooling Earth. But in any case, you need to look into the distant Cosmos and think about it, otherwise the End will come to Humanity someday.

[Andobor]

Humanity, both as a species and as a civilization, is a product of adaptation to climatic changes, and if there are no changes, then development freezes,
for example - the aborigines of Australia.

[Mikhail3]

No climate change poses a global threat. Humans easily survive and thrive in any climate. Absolutely anyone, even in Antarctica, can live. The question is completely different.
There is a global degradation of the technosphere against the background of the global degradation of control systems. Simply put, the climate is the climate, and we have ceased to cope with any, the most uncomplicated threats. A little something is wrong, and our control systems demonstrate shameful helplessness, dense stupidity, reaching the level of insanity, and complete, some kind of epic incompetence. The methods of selection for power, worked out by humanity, have suffered a complete fiasco.
The climate cannot do us any significant damage. But our authorities - at any moment. Especially when they sincerely want to do well) For decades, do not clean up the consequences of any "correct" decision of our rulers. Horror ...

[aries2200]

horror stories for ................ just another natural cycle is coming.