"F / A-18 Super Hornets are no longer needed": Romanian observer on the end of the "career" of a fighter

The American corporation Boeing is confidently diving down, losing its position in the global and domestic markets.

The F-15 is approaching the end of its career, the aircraft of the 5th and 6th generations [developed by this particular company] are not visible even over the horizon, with helicopters (CH-47 Chinook and AH-64 Apache) things seem to be a little better, but without much optimism, and the F / A-18 Super Hornet Block III is no longer needed by anyone, even its main customer, the US Navy

- the Romanian observer expresses his opinion in the edition of Romania Military.

As indicated, the US Navy has announced that it does not intend to purchase the Super Hornet after fiscal 2022 and will channel the savings into other programs, such as the 6th generation F / A-XX aircraft.

Boeing has a large congressional lobby (also due to jobs), so it is possible that US Navy sales will continue in the coming years, but the signal is clear: no one really wants to buy an F / A-18.

- the author writes.

In his words, if the US Navy has a great desire to acquire a Block III modification, then it is enough to "pull up" the existing F / A-18 E / F to its level. In terms of exports, the situation is even worse: only two countries have purchased Super Hornet Block III (Australia in 2007 and Kuwait in 2018). Perhaps Germany will become the new user of the aircraft. Other customers choose the F-35, Rafale or Gripen.

As the observer points out, the current F / A-18 Super Hornet Block III platform, despite the modernization, is not inconspicuous and cannot integrate future weapon systems, electronic warfare and other "stuffing" that are already under development, "which, according to in fact, it is the end of a fighter's career. "

Comments

[Victor_B]

F / A-18 Super Hornets are no longer needed "

Who is fighting in a single-breasted one nowadays?

[Asad]

Really in the subject! The expert should start with gypsy carts.

[orthodox]

gypsy carts 

[TermNachTer]

At one time, "Boeing" pushed through the Washington Reich Chancellery, the write-off of "Grumman - Tomket", and not only written off, but cut, so that there was no temptation to return to duty. F - 18 was supposed to be for everyone))) a fighter, an attack aircraft, an electronic warfare plane and even a tanker))) Now, someone has "jammed" the Boeing - a normal process is going on - spiders are eating each other)))

[OgnennyiKotik]

Everything has a beginning and an end. This fighter has a very long history. Actually starting with F-5, then YF-17, FA-18 and finally FA-18E / F. Will be in service for over 70 years in different guises. The functions of the refueling tanker will be taken by the MQ-25 UAV, the F-35C has already taken the strike tasks, it is not a problem to make an electronic warfare version on its basis, "gaining air superiority" on the new FA-XX (NGAD). And there is no longer any place for the FA-18E / F.

[Walking towards the light]

"The functions of the refueling tanker will be taken by the MQ-25 UAV, the F-35C has already taken the strike tasks, it is not at all a problem to make an electronic warfare version on its basis," gaining air superiority "on the new FA-XX (NGAD). And there is no place for the FA-18E / F. "Uh-huh. After six months of war, the full-scale drawings of the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II were taken out of the archives and they will praise how cool he is, how to make it technologically and how quickly you can learn a pilot on him, and he can also reconnaissance, bomb and intercept. And most importantly, he does not need any special coating and hangars with air conditioning.)) So it was in Vietnam.)) In addition to hangars with air conditioning and stealth coverings. And then they will pull out the Douglas A-1 Skyraider from conservation because the PRC will seize Taiwan (cut off the source of microprocessors ) and will deny everyone the rare earth metals.)

[Baron pardus]

Hey. no need to run into Skyrader. Cool stormtrooper. If it is done today with today's technologies, then it will be easy to drive the Taliban. They do not have the Air Force.
The phantom is not bad either, especially the latest versions with slats. To hang with bombs or AMRAMS with a new radar - there will be a flying launcher for missiles, approximately like F15.
Even if China seizes Taiwan and deposits in Afghanistan, they will not just sit on them. China's entire economy is based on export. Will they sell everything or their economy will collapse. Another thing is that they will dictate the PRICES, and in the end the Americans or Israelis or Italians from Oto Melara will figure out how to make polymer materials with the characteristics of rare earths.

[Vasyan1971]

Something ends, Something begins. ©

[Thrifty]

Why have not I seen tremendous success in the creation of aircraft of new generations from the Romanians? Maybe they secretly make the phrase of the 9th generation aircraft to shock the whole world?

[Walking towards the light]

"The winged horse for Dracula" is a very interesting article on the Military Review.

[orthodox]

Winged horse for Dracula ...

[Alf]

Quote: Thrifty

Why haven't I seen tremendous success in the creation of new generations of aircraft from the Romanians?

Military Transport Aviation Romania Mare.

Tanker Romania Mare.

Armored attack aircraft Romania Mare.

Double fighter Romagna Mare.

[TermNachTer]

Judging by the photo - triple)))

[Alf]

Quote: TermNachTER

Judging by the photo - triple)))

Well, yes, but a minus was made by the representative of the great aviation power of Romania. It became a shame for the state ...

[orthodox]

"gypsy carts" ...>

[TermNachTer]

And sho, cool photoshop, the programmer - respect and respect)))

[orthodox]

"The expert should start with gypsy carts."

[Nosgoth]

The army of a small country (living on subsidies from the more successful in the eurozone), wearing everything off the lord's shoulder, by definition cannot be strong. So watch your videos with pictures and dream further :-))))

[orthodox]

Alf

You are showing photos taken in Russia ...

[demchuk.ig]

"Why have I not seen tremendous success in the creation of new generations of aircraft from the Romanians?"
The Romanians, as usual, are getting ready to surrender more successfully to captivity.

[orthodox]

"Why have I not seen tremendous success in the creation of new generation aircraft from the Romanians?"
Maybe they secretly make the 9th generation airplane phrase to shock the whole world? "

they secretly do:
ARCA E-111

[DED_peer_DED]

The same one, but also inflated ...

[Nosgoth]

Quote: ortodox

they secretly do

Rather, they dream in secret :-))))

[orthodox]

it is true that Russian planes are very effective .. :))

[BABAY22]

Romanian commentator gives his opinion in Romania Military

As a rule, those who have no aviation and never will have the best knowledge of aviation.

[mmaxx]

Reminds: "Nothing shows the belonging of a person in the lower classes like the ability to understand expensive watches and cars."

[White man]

I don’t play the violin, but when it’s out of tune I hear it.

[TermNachTer]

Some people play the piano like hell, although there is no hearing)))

[White man]

Do you seriously think that all the authors of the comments on the articles of the site are virtuoso masters of playing on the topics under discussion? I doubt that the primary sources have the desire and ability to clarify something from the actual specifically. To talk about what happened - yes, what will be far away - is possible, but what now is not. (this is me with arms and presidents). But nevertheless, to demonstrate your logic, knowledge, experience, an interesting opinion, or vice versa, it is unwise to flirt in a pseudo-patriotic frenzy. For the sake of the first, like me, I hope the majority are here.
It's like politicians and political scientists. The first are working, and the second are discussing.

[TermNachTer]

I, too, by no means an expert in all matters, but by those in which I understand, I see, by the comments, who is really "in business", and who just read in "Wikipedia". Therefore, there are also very sensible comments from knowledgeable people.

[White man]

I apologize for the delay in answering. And on the topic ... Alas, if only they looked at Wikipedia first, but you can quickly see the sensible ones. Banter dispenses with knowledge. For me, it is not who wrote what is more important. And, for all that, a third of Russia does not hesitate to drive Romanian cars with a Renault nameplate (their design, let's say, is ambiguous to me)

[Alf]

Quote: White man

a third of Russia does not hesitate to drive Romanian cars with Renault's nameplate

Everything is upside down ..

Renault Logan (Rus. Renault Logan [1]) is a budget subcompact car, developed by Renault specifically for emerging markets. The main production is deployed in Romania at the plant of the Dacia industrial group, which has been owned by Renault since 1999.

Where is it Romanian?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Alf

Where is it Romanian?

It is Romanian only in value. If it was produced at the sites of Central, or, God forbid, Western Europe, it would be Spanish or Portuguese, with a price tag commensurate with the salary of the workers there. But no one would buy Portuguese Dacia at the price of a German Polo.

[Alf]

Quote: stalkerwalker

It is Romanian only in value.

So what am I talking about? But a colleague above, foaming at the mouth, assures that Logan is Romanian ...

[White man]

Alf, rudeness is unnecessary, but I will add. For a long time I can be mistaken, but I remember the information that the Romanian division of Renault first had a hand in the design of our Logan and Duster. I don't care about the merits or demerits of these cars. I wrote in the general context of the article and comments. I don't like chauvinism.

[stalkerwalker]

Romanian engineers designed the Dacia MPV, which we named Largus. At the heart of the B0 platform from Renault, on the basis of which Duster went, up to the last modification.
One thing I can say - that Logan, Largus or Duster, on the windshield is written in transparent letters "Poverty is not a vice." And when I have to order a taxi, I immediately put a condition - neither Logan nor Duster.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: stalkerwalker

One thing I can say is that Logan, Largus or Duster have transparent letters on the windshield "Poverty is not a vice". And when I have to order a taxi, I immediately put a condition - neither Logan nor Duster.

Only now they cost more and more.
And the duster still goes under the Nissan Terrano login)))

[Alf]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: stalkerwalker

One thing I can say is that Logan, Largus or Duster have transparent letters on the windshield "Poverty is not a vice". And when I have to order a taxi, I immediately put a condition - neither Logan nor Duster.

Only now they cost more and more.
And the duster still goes under the Nissan Terrano login)))

Good evening !

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Alf

Good evening !

Greetings, Kamrad!

[Alf]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Alf

Good evening !

Greetings, Kamrad!

Say hello? Right now, let's start to rake the cons ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Alf

Say hello? Right now, let's start to rake the cons ...

Duc, let him put it, maybe he will finally let them in, otherwise there will be problems with this

[Alf]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Alf

Say hello? Right now, let's start to rake the cons ...

Duc, let him put it, maybe he will finally let them in, otherwise there will be problems with this

No, only the grave will fix the hunchback. Let them bet, since there is not enough brains for something clever.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Alf

No, only the grave will fix the hunchback. Let them bet, since there is not enough brains for something clever.

That's for sure! And fools do not understand that "You cannot strangle our song, you cannot kill!"

[TermNachTer]

AvtoVAZ is also Renault. I don't care what country the car is made in, if it's good.

[orthodox]

gypsy carts 
Romania Mare

[sined]

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[Pete mitchell]

the opinion of a Romanian columnist for Romania Military.

- this is already fun

[alch3mist]

It is not for nothing that they have a new conqueror of superiority called FA-XX. Not otherwise they will fax it via fiber optic.
We stock up on popcorn and see how BLM will make planes.

[knn54]

"Supertot" was originally planned as a carrier-based aircraft.
And in THIS niche, the Swedes and the French are not competitors to him.

[Castro Ruiz]

There is no Swede and the French (Rafale) yes.

[mvg]

Another "news", supposedly a military site, checked by moderators ... I know a couple of five more countries, operators of this miracle of technology. And not the last in technical terms. And escho a couple of contracts "hang". both in Europe and Asia. Question: Why these stuffing stuff?
Compared to the MiG-29KUB, this is generally space.

[mmaxx]

Fucking Romanian experts talk about the taste of oysters that haven't even been seen in pictures

[orthodox]

gypsy carts 

[orthodox]

gypsy carts ...

[orthodox]

Fucking Romanian experts talk about the taste of oysters that haven't even been seen in pictures

[mmaxx]

That's the reason. We need to knock out the money for a new plane. More expensive and better.
Only this CF-18S is about the Su-27. And the Super Hornet is more abruptly than the Su-30MKI and, as it were, not equal to the Su-35. In general, they are the same only in the picture and at first glance. And nobody gives as a gift.
"Sour Grapes".

[White man]

Recently, I accidentally came across information about the standard of living in Romania. Somewhat surprised. Take an interest

[mmaxx]

Now I will dream to go there
Probably even cooler than Poland.

[White man]

Thanks for the videos! I liked the first one more.

[orthodox]

in fact, unfortunately, there are many stereotypes about Romanians ...

[Nosgoth]

Everyone already knows that they are traitors.