Afghanistan. The Great Taliban Warriors, or How Americans Are Kicked Out Using the American Experience

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Today, the press is simply inundated with materials about how the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation as a terrorist one) are successfully moving through the territory of Afghanistan. At the same time, many experts and analysts make big eyes when talking about the number and equipment of the opposing sides. 300 thousand government soldiers against 75 thousand Taliban! At the same time, the government army is much better equipped and trained by the "best army in the world."

Meanwhile, if you recall the materials that have been published in sufficient quantities over the past one and a half to two decades, it will become clear that such a result of the American operation was obvious. Many factors indicated this. From the goal of the operation completely incomprehensible to the army, to the gradual loss of the combat capability of the army itself and its termination into a kind of military police, used only to restore order in the places of deployment.



I remember how on the pages of our publication some commentators talked about how afraid the American military is to protrude from their strongholds, since raids often end in clashes with the Afghans, in which the Americans suffer quite serious losses. As other experts talked about the multiple increase in the export of drugs from Afghanistan to Europe and the United States.

Do not dig a hole to another ...


From the very beginning of the operation of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan (ISAF), in fact, the US Armed Forces with some help from NATO allies, it became clear that the ISAF was repeating the path of the Soviet army in 1979 and the first half of the 1980s. They entered beautifully. We walked beautifully through the country. Bouquets of flowers and assurances of friendship and love from the local population.

The whole world, which then voted on December 20, 2001, for the UN Security Council Resolution No. 1386, watched with interest how the strongest army in the world smashed the same Taliban and other anti-government detachments of local mujahideen. How quickly the power of Kabul is established in the provinces of Afghanistan. How mujahideen suddenly become pro-Kabul and pro-American, and only a small part of them turn into dushmans from the Taliban and the Northern Alliance.

On the video of that time, such "transformants" are perfectly visible. Outwardly, an ordinary Afghan, white shirts, black vests, a turban, and more often a pakol, on his head. Only the clothes are newer, richer, better quality. Looking at these "peaceful Afghans" it became clear that soon American jeeps would start being blown up by mines and landmines on the roads.

We must pay tribute to the Americans. They performed the initial combat mission efficiently. The Taliban troops were dispersed rather quickly. The enemy, as the side opposing the army, disappeared. Dissolved among the local population. In principle, the army was no longer needed. Further, the security forces were to act. American and local.

But the American "Politburo" did exactly the same as the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee once did. The Americans decided to help the Afghan people build a truly democratic, modern society. by your own model, of course. True, unlike the SA, the Americans in the US press did not talk about the construction of orphanages and hospitals, the Americans talked about how they smash terrorists throughout Afghanistan.

That is, the US army fell into the same trap that our army fell into earlier. There is a war, there are dead and wounded, but there are no victories. They carried out a raid, dispersed the gang, destroyed the spirits, but in a week we must gather again there and with the same purpose. Ultimately, the army begins to decay from the inside out of hopelessness. The military needs victories! 

Was there an understanding of the situation at the Pentagon?


It is quite a natural question about the understanding of the situation in the American headquarters. Did the Pentagon understand that the army should be withdrawn? If not completely, then most of it. This is where some questions arise. Numerous interviews with American generals published in open sources indicate a lack of this understanding. However, it is necessary to take into account the political component of such speeches.

Governments often deliberately misinform their own populations. to prevent negative reactions to their own actions. Remember the Soviet newspapers of the 80s. There was no war in the neighboring country. And there were no dead. In a few reports, our soldiers met with Afghan friends, helped schools, kindergartens, hospitals and other nonsense.

In the case of the United States, it seems to me that such a policy of hushing up the situation in the IRA began in 2003-04. At least around this time, the opinion emerged that the war in Afghanistan would never end for the United States. Some US military officials have spoken about this openly. True, most of the inhabitants did not understand their hints.

American presidents spoke about the desire of the United States to "help build a democratic state," which for the military, this is what they spoke about, meant that this war would not be won. Consequently, the United States will never end a military operation in Afghanistan. So what is next? Then there was a completely logical escape called "quick evacuation in connection with the end of the operation."

We can, of course, say that certain units did carry out some operations. There were also reports of small, but victories. Alas, if you read the specialized websites of the US military today, it becomes clear that most of these victories are, to put it mildly, exaggerated. Conventional police operations were passed off as military operations.

Why are government forces scattering ...


So what's the problem? Why is the Taliban hitting the well-armed and trained army of Afghanistan so easily? Alas, Americans have to say thank you ... to the Americans. The Taliban used the US experience in Iraq. The very same bribery, intimidation and other "tricks" from the arsenal of the American special services, which allowed the United States to decompose the Iraqi army from the inside and create a mini army of traitors in its ranks.

It was always incomprehensible to me why, when speaking about militants, we are talking about those who came from somewhere. But, most of the Taliban are actually Afghans of different nationalities. There are many ethnic Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens, Pashtuns and other peoples inhabiting this country among the field commanders of the Taliban.

In other words, the soldiers and officers of the Afghan army and the Afghan security forces were recruited from the same tribes as the Taliban. In my opinion, this is the main reason for the defeat of the government forces. The heads of the Afghan clans decide, and the representatives of these clans execute. Simply put, this is called corruption. Not a classic bribery of the military, but a local generic variety. Afghan flavor, so to speak.

The corruption of the Afghan security forces is colossal. I already wrote about this in one of the materials. And they knew it at the Pentagon! They knew, but they hid it for the sake of Washington. True, here we must pay tribute to the generals of the United States, the military managed to fulfill the main thing. At the time of the withdrawal of troops, the Americans had a fairly small contingent in the IRA, which they were able to quickly evacuate.

The remnants of the units, in my opinion, have not yet been touched only because, perhaps, there is some kind of agreement between the militants and the military. But, I also wrote about this, the deadline is set rigidly - September 11, 2021. Further, the militants will destroy any foreign military on their territory. This is officially announced.

Thus, the US operation failed. The American army, like all previous "liberators", was virtually defeated. We can say whatever we want, but there is no one in war. This is not football. The goals of the war were either achieved or not achieved. The rest is nothing more than verbiage. An attempt to make excuses. Even by winning the battle, you can lose the war. I repeat, victory is just the accomplishment of the assigned task. 

What should we think about


The stampede of the American army from Afghanistan showed the US allies that much of what had been instilled in them for many decades was just fiction. This somewhat changes the situation in world politics. I am not a utopian and I understand that doubts in the heads of politicians cannot be quickly realized in changes in the country's policy. But that the doubts of the president or the chancellor will lead to reflections on their own destiny and the destiny of their country.

The tasks of our country, which I have voiced in previous materials, do not change. The Taliban have been and remain a rather dangerous neighbor. The southern borders must be strengthened. In particular, it is necessary to pay attention to the allies. To strengthen their armies, their commanding staff and train soldiers. After all, despite all the stories about the joint rebuff to the militants in the event of an attack on the territory of the union state, everyone understands that we will fight back. Our army.

In the near future, we should expect the activation of our pro-Western fellow citizens. As well as the activation of "democratic forces" outside Russia. It is impossible to raise the prestige of the United States in the eyes of the whole world. But it is possible to omit the authority of the adversary. That is, Russia and China. So a lot of dirt will be poured on us. you have to be ready for this ...

And the last thing. One more possible event should be noted, which, in my opinion, may occur in Afghanistan. The perception of the Taliban as terrorists in reality exists only in the West and in our country. In Asia, the Taliban are just another organization seeking power. It is quite possible that after the seizure of power and the massive purge of Afghan society from "American henchmen", the Taliban will become respected people.

Necessary afterword


The material you read above was written four days ago, but the situation in Afghanistan has changed rapidly. Therefore, there was a need for an afterword. As I thought, in the eyes of the Afghan society, the Taliban really turned into respected politicians who drove out the hated regime and will now independently build a "real Islamic state." The transfer of the capital of the country practically without a fight just says that from the point of view of the Afghan people, the Taliban are not enemies.

It can be stated that the fall of the legitimate regime of President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai was painless. No matter how hard Ghani tried to be thoroughly American, his masters simply threw the regime into the hands of the Taliban. At the same time, the Taliban simply mocked the former president. They agreed to replace the Afghan guard with the American one during the transfer of power. You were hoping for them, now watch how you are kicked out of the house like a flea dog.

The Taliban are well aware that today is not the time to start cleansing. For example, unlike Bagram, they do not occupy the Kabul airport, making it possible for Western diplomats and officials from the Ghani apparatus to escape. They just stand and wait. In the end, a few politicians, albeit well-known in the world, but not respected in Afghanistan, will not do the trick. Let them live in the "zoos of their owners."

It is also interesting that, according to some information from foreign media, the Taliban have already created a transitional government. And, unexpectedly for many, it was headed not by a representative of the Taliban's militant wing, but by ex-Interior Minister Ahmad Jalali. I have already met the opinion that it is quite possible that the Taliban will create a country similar to Pakistan.

It seems to me that the goal of the militants is completely different. Create a new country. And it is radical Islam that is to be laid in the foundation of this state. Let me remind you that at a time when Afghanistan was engulfed in a civil war between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance, in 1996-2001, such a state already existed. And it was called the "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan". 

In the case of the creation of just such a state, naturally, a new post of the ruler-emir appears. Only this can explain the appearance in Kabul of Mullah Abdel Ghani Baradar, in fact the head of the Taliban's political wing. Mullah is not only a veteran among the Taliban, but also the commander of the Western Taliban in the past.

In general, if you remember how the Taliban behaved during the first attempt to seize power, during the war at the beginning of the century, one gets the impression that the militants have “reformed”. Today, only one haraam sin is reliably known, with which they have already begun to fight. Images of women with open faces and the prohibition of women to appear on the streets with open faces.

I think everything is much more complicated, given the eastern mentality. The Taliban hate the mujahideen. the rapid seizure of Afghanistan is caused not by the weakness of the Afghan soldiers, but by the unwillingness to fight. The army fled simply because the soldiers do not understand what they are fighting for. The regime in Kabul was not supported by the army. 

We are accustomed to the fact that there is always a desire for progress in society. Yes, it is, but in the case of Afghanistan, this thrust existed only in the capital and large cities. Society is patriarchal and does not want change. Afghans are religious and faithful to their traditions that have existed for centuries. As strange as it may sound, in this the Afghans are akin to Ukrainian society, especially in the west of the country.

The Taliban understand that if they begin today a sharp breakdown of these traditions, way of life, religious dogmas and other "reforms", the Mujahideen will return. But other mujahideen will return. Motivated and organized. And then the situation at the beginning of the century may repeat itself.

Today we are witnessing the beginning of a rather lengthy process of reformatting Afghanistan. The emirate of Afghanistan is still a distant dream of the Taliban. I have already written about the clan system for governing the provinces of Afghanistan. Whatever the Taliban do in Kabul and other cities, the tribal leaders will decide everything. Nothing has changed in Afghanistan. We must fight for power every day! Power cannot be seized at once!

* Editorial note: The Taliban is a terrorist organization banned on the territory of the Russian Federation
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    2. +12
      16 August 2021 09: 14
      -the deadline is set rigidly - September 11 (!) 2021.
      I don’t think the date was chosen by chance.
      -The heads of the Afghan clans decide, and the representatives of these clans execute.
      This is also the strength of the Taliban.
      IS does not recognize clan relations. - In Chechnya, except for mullahs and elders, heads of teips were killed.
      Therefore, IS "did not przhilis-" in the Caucasus. It is mainly outlaws and criminals who are fighting, "mowing" under the faithful.
      1. +12
        17 August 2021 13: 57
        "Comparing" the ten-year Soviet presence in Afghanistan and the American (NATO's) twenty-year presence is in principle incorrect ...

        The USSR "left" Afghanistan, leaving there COMPLETELY WORKING POWER, moreover, with the process of internal reconciliation already REALLY STARTED.

        Just in case,...

        After the withdrawal of Soviet troops, the government of Dr. Najibullah held out for THREE WHOLE YEARS. Almost ALONE. And it fell, only because the anti-advisers - Gorbachev (and after Yeltsin ...) left him WITHOUT ANY SUPPORT AT ALL. Even political, not to mention economic or military-technical ...

        And this, abandoned by Gorbachev, the government of Najibullah, in Afghanistan, was opposed by PRACTICALLY THE SAME FORCES as before, opposed in Afghanistan to the Soviet Union.

        These are China, Iran and Saudi Arabia. And also, of course, despicably and on the sly, by the hands of others, who "signed" the four-sided agreement on Afghanistan, its "guarantor" is the United States and a participant - Pakistan.

        But the government of Najibullah, nevertheless, INDEPENDENTLY, held out for THREE YEARS ...

        And now?..

        TEN DAYS, and EVERYTHING ...

        Here are ALL "results" of the US and NATO TWENTY-YEARS "presence" in Afghanistan have been completely zeroed out.

        Political, military, economic (if the latter, in general, "took place" 0 ...

        And this, while Russia, in the implementation of the "Afghan mission", NEVER COUNTERED ...

        Duc, what kind of "results" can be "summed up" here, nodding at the USSR, if the "comparison" itself is meaningless, due to ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT POLTIC reasons for the fall of power in Afghanistan, "then" and "now"? ..
      2. 0
        17 August 2021 17: 44
        The Afghan question is not resolved. What about the export of drugs? How to deal with the export of radical Islam, which will undoubtedly be to Central Asia. Will Russia accept refugees from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan? Will radical Islam and cheap drugs come to Russia with the refugees?
        1. +8
          17 August 2021 17: 57
          The Taliban announced that from now on, the death penalty is imposed for the production and distribution of drugs.
        2. -2
          17 August 2021 19: 25
          I offer carpet bombing of fields and vegetable gardens. Along with ordinary bombs, drop chemical ones filled with vigorous herbicides, so that nothing grows on this field for 5 years.
        3. +2
          18 August 2021 22: 50
          Quote: Sergey Khukharev
          Will radical Islam and cheap drugs come to Russia with the refugees?

          Will definitely come! We have cheap drugs and have enough of our own, but radical Islam, along with terrorism, will definitely come. The so-called "labor migrants" from Central Asia are imported today in commercial quantities.
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  3. +1
    16 August 2021 08: 48
    Nothing has changed in Afghanistan. We must fight for power every day! Power cannot be seized at once!

    And the struggle for power will be long, it has just begun. But one thing is clear, Afghanistan will be an Islamic Republic.
    1. -5
      16 August 2021 13: 01
      Afghanistan has long been an Islamic republic, in 2001 the United States used weapons of mass destruction in Afghanistan, a lot of money and won practically without straining.
      1. -2
        17 August 2021 08: 42
        As I understand it, our experts do not even know that now, Afghanistan is an Islamic republic, although right now, after the seizure of the country by the Taliban, it is no longer clear what, I think they will voice
      2. +1
        17 August 2021 17: 33
        Have you won? Whom?
        1. -1
          19 August 2021 09: 24
          We remove the quotes - we bought everyone, there were no battles, the Taliban troops dissipated, but field commanders loyal to the central government appeared in all provinces and provincial centers.
    2. +2
      17 August 2021 19: 27
      what ? are there any options? Or did you hope that they will accept Christianity?)))) Iran is also an Islamic republic and nothing.
  4. +1
    16 August 2021 08: 52
    Who pays the Taliban?
    1. +1
      16 August 2021 10: 27
      Nobody pays them, take an interest in history. They are gathering purely on a collective farm and driving out the Angles in the 19th century. And then a showdown among themselves, and it's endless. Oh, Balochi, the girls are beautiful.
      1. +2
        16 August 2021 11: 04
        If you are interested in the same story. One cannot fail to notice Russia's participation in the Anglo-Afghan wars of the 19th century.
        1. -2
          16 August 2021 13: 05
          But there were neighbors, these two had to be slaughtered, and there would have been silence, otherwise the Emperor got
          1. +1
            16 August 2021 13: 28
            Yes, it's not about that. And that Afghanistan has long been a place of international showdown.

            It is unlikely that these showdowns were allowed to take their course, and it is unlikely that the same Taliban acts purely at their own expense.
            1. -3
              16 August 2021 13: 41
              So a motorized rifle division manned in the USSR, in support of the border guards
              1. 0
                17 August 2021 08: 54
                Although Colonel General .... you are talking about such crap! What are the border guards? We have not been there for a long time! And they ruined everything! And, in general, why ??? AGAIN?! Third time? WHAT ??? !!! If you beat - then as in the USSR - without leaving the cash register! Schaub climbed 100 km away. Enough money? They have not been fools for a long time ...............
                1. 0
                  17 August 2021 10: 49
                  Sorry, I didn’t follow. Have Tajiks until 2016, and have not continued further?
                2. +1
                  17 August 2021 12: 04
                  Yes, a starley in the army and in reserve from the last century, next year they will write off
            2. -3
              17 August 2021 09: 12
              Here is Herat with Kandahar and Mazar-i-Sharif to wipe ... sorry! How the CIA will fly to Pakistan - so it will be. And I gave a shit on students, and money for students. The sign has been changed! As you were giaur and you will be ..... logistics! Money doesn't smell from faith! Especially when the pale-faced themselves hound their own ..... for big money.
              1. -1
                17 August 2021 10: 05
                I barely grasped the essence of the message, but it seemed to me that you share the point of view that the Taliban took their position at the expense of money from outside. Well, in principle, it cannot be otherwise. It is obvious.
                Perhaps even a colonel general, with a motorized rifle division of the USSR
                1. -2
                  17 August 2021 10: 53
                  There will be a black scribe ..... In addition to Ahmad-Massoud (killed) -Dostum - 0 - the mess will creep. This is not the 80s. And from the EU they will whine, but accept. We, too, will whine and accept "ours" for the time being - for the time being - and then - the great chopping off of the children of the former USSR!
                2. +1
                  17 August 2021 10: 53
                  So look, how much poppy was with the students, and how much it went when the Americans got in there.
                  1. -1
                    17 August 2021 12: 17
                    Believe it or not, he served there. Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
                    1. 0
                      17 August 2021 13: 57
                      Have you registered under the callsign? There is an order of magnitude more sugar in horseradish than in radish, he was surprised when he found out
                      1. 0
                        17 August 2021 16: 01
                        Okay, shut up.
            3. 0
              17 August 2021 19: 28
              China, however, stands behind
      2. -1
        19 August 2021 19: 28
        Yes, the Baloch girls are pretty! I testify.
  5. +2
    16 August 2021 09: 03
    Reading the press, one often encounters surprise at the discrepancy between the allegedly spent amounts and the deplorable outcome of democratization. America is far from international impulses. If she invests in something, then only closing it something exclusively on herself and her needs. Withdrawing American interests from Germany, South Korea or Japan, the effect will not be weaker than the Afghan one, with the exception of the Taliban. Muslims have not yet claimed power in these countries. It's just that the media do not know how to call a spade a spade, and behind the term 'democracy' they hide a US vassal.
    1. -1
      17 August 2021 09: 19
      Don't read the press - use your head!
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    1. -1
      16 August 2021 10: 02
      In part, you are right. But with a balanced and wise policy of the Foreign Ministry and the country's leadership, many troubles can be avoided. It remains to be hoped that professionals on "Eastern" issues remain in the government.
      Yesterday I watched an interview with A. Bagdasarov. He was beaming all over with happiness. )
      1. 0
        17 August 2021 12: 51
        We all shine when we remember our youth!
  7. -2
    16 August 2021 09: 23
    Do not dig a hole to another ...

    ***
    Don't spit in the well - it will fly out, you won't catch ...
    ***
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 10: 34
      Do not say in a fairy tale, do not cut it out with an ax
  8. 0
    16 August 2021 09: 38
    Rake - rake everywhere !!!
    1. +2
      16 August 2021 13: 09
      Biden, July 2021
      "Under no circumstances will you see people being taken from the roof of the US Embassy in Afghanistan."
  9. +5
    16 August 2021 09: 58
    Dear brothers in the former Soviet Union, (dear - because you cost us so dearly) Look at Afghanistan and draw your own conclusions.
  10. -5
    16 August 2021 10: 09
    The main thing for us is to let this gadyushnik Afghanistan develop independently, in extreme cases, spread to Kazakhstan and Central Asia.
    And then clean it up with dust: in war as in war - no democratization, schools, hospitals, free women of the East and other nonsense.
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 11: 16
      Operator, you have a purely English approach to diplomacy. I like it, I will not hide it. Cynically. But ... practical.
      1. -2
        16 August 2021 11: 22
        In my opinion - purely army bully
    2. 0
      17 August 2021 09: 25
      I'm afraid I'll get lost even in my native Semerechye! Very funny places! They will take not cities, but suburbs - week 2 without food and water ..... KYRDYK! Forget Fort Faithful!
    3. 0
      17 August 2021 19: 33
      basically correct, but you don't need to let it grow
  11. +6
    16 August 2021 10: 15
    Quote: Operator
    The main thing for us is to let this gadyushnik Afghanistan develop independently, in extreme cases, spread to Kazakhstan and Central Asia.
    And then clean it up with dust: in war as in war - no democratization, schools, hospitals, free women of the East and other nonsense.

    Here are the hats for you, throw your enemies:
  12. +1
    16 August 2021 10: 53
    Quote: perepilka
    Nobody pays them, take an interest in history. They are gathering purely on a collective farm and driving out the Angles in the 19th century.

    War is politics by other means, and politics is an extension of the economy. Economic interests are always behind the war for ideology.
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 13: 51
      Poppy. Ask who drives heroin. Give a hint? Lizaveta
      1. -1
        17 August 2021 19: 35
        that is why she cannot die, because she is always high?)))))))))
        1. 0
          19 August 2021 11: 24
          Let me tell you, England, Canada, Australia and the United States, the main manufacturers of painkillers and antidepressants, based on opium, and addiction arises. Although they indulge in methamphetamine.
          1. 0
            22 August 2021 22: 54
            so england canada and australia is one country, which is entoy old woman and is ruled by
  13. 0
    16 August 2021 11: 14
    * Editorial note: The Taliban is a terrorist organization banned on the territory of the Russian Federation

    If the Taliban do not try to bite off more than they can chew, then soon this phrase will contain the word "earlier". Exactly between "organization" and "forbidden". And the word before "organization" can disappear altogether.
  14. +7
    16 August 2021 11: 57
    Why is the Taliban hitting the well-armed and trained army of Afghanistan so easily?

    Because the Afghan army is the very same Talibi, disguised and armed with American money and who see themselves as a government army.
    In 1989 it didn't beat like that. Soviet troops fled in February 1989, and the DRA troops fought until April 1992. And they were defeated only when the USSR collapsed and "democratic Russia" severed all ties with the communist government of Najibul. The Talibi won then only because their enemies were in a complete international blockade, and they received help from the "free world".
  15. +5
    16 August 2021 12: 04
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Why is the Taliban hitting the well-armed and trained army of Afghanistan so easily?

    Because the Afghan army is the very same Talibi, disguised and armed with American money and who see themselves as a government army.
    In 1989 it didn't beat like that. Soviet troops fled in February 1989, while DRA troops fought until April 1992. And they were defeated only when the USSR collapsed and "democratic Russia" severed all ties with the communist government of Najibul.

    Unfortunately, there is a fact-Free Russia threw the DRA.
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 20: 29
      And yugov and Donbass. What about yourself?
  16. +2
    16 August 2021 13: 06
    No guys, it's not that simple. The agreement between the striped and the Taliban is clearly traced, otherwise there would already be B-52 echelons going on schedule. Apparently, the striped strengths are running out both financial and human, but there is no hope for these of their Tobaccos, some themselves look in their mouths in anticipation of handouts, while others apparently begin to think, but what the hell is that to them. So the Taliban are going to meet the Westerners in their evacuation and are not touching them yet.
  17. 0
    16 August 2021 13: 49
    the rapid capture of Afghanistan is caused not by the weakness of the Afghan soldiers, but by the unwillingness to fight

    If there really is no desire to fight, then you will have to build relationships with your neighbors. Let them now try to build relationships between the clans within the country. If it works out, then it will be possible to negotiate with the new leaders. And if it works out as always, then they will fight each other endlessly.
    1. +1
      17 August 2021 11: 58
      If there really is no desire to fight, then you will have to build relationships with your neighbors.
      Further on the agenda is a war for power, taking the capital is not the end.
  18. +2
    16 August 2021 15: 38
    About the strategic mistake of the US administration I am tormented by vague doubts, as the famous house manager Bunsch used to say in the comedy of E. Ryazanov.
    Yes, the tactical miscalculation of the Americans is obvious - the Taliban turned out to be much stronger than the thoroughly corrupt Afghan army, whose fighters, moreover, did not have much motivation to put their heads on the block in order to save their "fat cats".
    This is mainly due to the rapid success of the Taliban and the tactical miscalculation of the Americans in the amount of time they have to calmly withdraw their troops and other citizens, as well as their assistants from among the local residents.
    But whether the United States made a strategic mistake is a big question. And the answer to this question may be due to the fact that the strategic goals of the United States and its allies have seriously changed recently due to the fact that the confrontation with China and Russia has come to the fore. Moreover, the Chinese threat at this point in time is assessed by American analysts as the most serious and requiring a prompt response. Therefore, the United States and its allies are strengthening their military capabilities in the APR and deploying their forces and resources there.
    And the main task that the United States set itself before the invasion of Afghanistan, that is, the elimination of bin Laden and the neutralization of ISIS, they consider completed, especially since the Taliban and ISIS have never been friends.
    In addition, high-ranking Americans are well aware that it was not Afghanistan, but Saudi Arabia, who was behind the September 11 attacks, and that bin Laden was not an Afghan, but a Saudi.
    But at that time, the United States needed Afghanistan as one of the strategic footholds from which it was possible to act against a number of countries in the Middle East. Now the priorities of the United States have changed in connection with the growth of the power of Russia and China, and the fact that the Taliban took power in Afghanistan into their own hands may well turn out to be beneficial to the United States, since the Taliban can draw off a significant part of the forces of the Russian Armed Forces. It may even come to an armed confrontation or even to the need to bring a "limited contingent" of the Armed Forces of Russia and other Asian republics into the border regions of Afghanistan.
    So it is possible that the shameful flight of the United States from Afghanistan may well hide the far-reaching plans of the United States and its allies.
    I emphasize that this is just my hypothesis and the reality may turn out to be completely different.
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 20: 29
      The reality is: they wanted to shit, but they shit. And paper, very expensive, spent a trillion + -.

      If you produce a lot of paper, inflation will trample and you will have to turn on the machine, and then buy machines.
      I see an active brainwashing in the media + 100500 messages like yours, like that they didn't get fucked up, and this is such a plan.

      Cons:
      * Fall of US authority among allies and potential assistants. Well, they threw many of those who worked for them.
      * Loss of a foothold, near China, Russia, and other players. It's a good place.
      * We will have to spend resources on the media, which will push ideas in the style of "The United States did not lose, this is such a plan, the Afghans themselves, etc.", these ideas will be picked up by people and spread. But all the same, this is a waste of the media resource so that no one sees that the pants are in something brown, but it was possible to write about bad Russia or China.
      * EU dissatisfaction that the refugees will be trampled and not consulted.
      * Loss of spies, loss of drug revenue and other little things.
      * Trump will pick up, and this is a split, you have to spend money to say that they still won.

      On the plus side, there will be less money to spend there.

      ps
      You can be sure that there are plans. And they will shit further 100%.
      It is a 100% explosive mixture. But Russia has little authority there (or rather, no one at all), now it will grow, many will want such a powerful ally. At the very least, to keep your warm spots. But to the United States .... well, they are unlikely to go, after all, they do not read the media, but more analytical notes.
    2. -1
      17 August 2021 19: 41
      next in line to enter Afghan, this is our sworn narrow-eyed "friend". And his run can be successful. The Chines are locust people. They will simply begin to squeeze out the local population in the provinces and replace it with their own. And then they will establish their authority. Afghan is a lot of resources.
  19. +1
    16 August 2021 17: 43
    The Taliban will need both money and economy and much more to run the country. So it's not a fact that American advice won't come in handy. And that the Taliban will break with them completely. I would not flatter myself. Unless the PRC seizes the initiative.
    1. 0
      16 August 2021 19: 43
      The Taliban, like the American friend Saudi Arabia, will soon make friends with American capital for money received not by oil like the Saudis, but by drugs collected from huge plantations. Who always supports the principle - money does not smell! Well, the Russians brought up on communist and Orthodox principles will traditionally condemn them, as our population now fashionably condemns the proletarian country - the United States! It is proletarian, because competent engineers and workers have the main success there, translating their inventions into working devices. Well, businessmen who earn money on their labor have created such conditions for them in the world that America is always right, including the Americans. In our country, the Kremlin is always right and the former Soviet lieutenant colonel put there by our hucksters, to whom, as usual, the entire Russian people prays. You can't drink up national traditions!
  20. 0
    16 August 2021 18: 26
    and what great warriors. we, that we worship them now. Blocher's title is not ponten
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  22. -1
    16 August 2021 19: 40
    Everything seems to be true, but the persistent desire to equalize the USSR and the USA in Afghanistan is alarming. This is an all-for-money Varlam marker at once. Compare the USSR, which had 60 years of experience of friendly cooperation with Afghanistan, a huge number of students in universities, a lot of infrastructure projects, with the USA - "KE PASA?" Half the world took up arms against the DRA and Soviet troops, no one interfered with the United States. After the withdrawal of the 40th Army, Najibullah held out for almost three years, would have held on further - now everyone can see what is happening.
    The main idea of ​​the article is that Afghans are Untermensch, and they do not need the gifts of freedom. This is fascism in its purest form.
    1. +2
      16 August 2021 23: 47
      Quote: Simasima69
      The main idea of ​​the article is that Afghans are Untermensch, and they do not need the gifts of freedom. This is fascism in its purest form.

      did you notice too? I have a feeling of the renaissance of fascism in Russia. look at the comments in the adjacent topic. even the members of the forum openly say that there, in Afghanistan, they say savages ... recently there was a panegyric to Ivan Ilyin published here, and only Hitler was a bigger fascist. and the comments under that article amazed me. many of the permanent members of the forum unsubscribed there in the spirit of "yes, we are special Russians", etc. and only a couple of people noticed that the article was filled with maxims about the superiority of the white race.
      Of course, they are not familiar with the work of Ilyin, but the idea of ​​the superiority of Russians by the fact that they are Russians suits them perfectly request
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        1. 0
          17 August 2021 15: 42
          And by the way, you are right. Enemies and subhumans. It is very rightly said. I don’t think that many people on VO regularly read news on BBC, CNN, Sky, etc. ( in English) . And well, there is so much enmity and slander that there is no doubt that it was composed by the enemies. And aimed at subhumans.
  23. +1
    17 August 2021 07: 08
    But it seems to me that everything is going according to the American plan.
  24. +1
    17 August 2021 10: 10
    The author is right. The struggle only begins in Afghanistan. These, differently thinking forces, were united by one thing - to break the pro-American government. What next, time will tell.
  25. sen
    +1
    17 August 2021 11: 00
    In the news on "Russia 24" aired. Forgotten Ukrainian soldiers in Afghanistan. The Taliban caught them, disarmed them, and interned them. Their further fate is unknown.
  26. DDT
    0
    12 September 2021 22: 35
    In general, comrades, the situation is strange. this fucking Taliban spits in our souls. We negotiated with Barodar. As a result, it turns out that there is NO Barodar in the government. They invited the useless and uninteresting Qatar, but they did not invite either Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan or Tajikistan to the inauguration. Countries that border Afghanistan! Could it help revive the northern alliance? Since IMHO, the packs and the Chinese are pulling the whole blanket over themselves. What is this "message"? am