The Czech Ministry of Defense will replace the Soviet air defense systems "Kub-M2" with the Israeli air defense systems Spyder

The Czech Ministry of Defense intends to purchase Israeli-made Spyder air defense systems. According to Armadni Noviny, negotiations are already underway.

According to the newspaper, the Czech military department has begun negotiations with the Israeli company Rafael on the supply of Spyder anti-aircraft missile systems, which in the future should replace the Soviet-made medium-range anti-aircraft systems 2K12M2 "Cub-M2" in service. At what stage are the negotiations Armadni Noviny does not know.

The fact that the Czech Republic intends to modernize its air defense forces was reported last year. In early autumn 2020, the Minister of Defense of the Czech Republic Lubomir Metnar announced plans to purchase four batteries of the Spyder air defense system. The choice on the Israeli anti-aircraft system fell on the results of a tender held by the Czech Ministry of Defense for several years.

Four batteries of Spyder air defense systems (four launchers in each) will replace four batteries of Soviet 25K2M12 “Kub-M2” air defense systems purchased in the 2s of the last century as part of the 60th Tobruk anti-aircraft missile regiment. Previously, it was assumed that the contract for the supply of complexes will be signed in early 2021 with the delivery of the first complexes in early 2023.

To date, the Spyder air defense systems are in service with Georgia, Singapore, India, Vietnam and the Philippines.

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[rocket757]

The standard, routine process of replacing an old one with a new one ... and what is there to discuss? we state a fact and EVERYTHING.

[Fedor M]

It would be better to look at the BUK

[alch3mist]

It would be better to look at the BUK

Why do they need a BUK? They know that nobody needs nafig, they can at least order slingshots for air defense.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: alch3mist

Why do they need a BUK? They know that no one needs nafig, you can at least order slingshots for air defense

That's it ! Militant countries like the Czech Republic can afford to buy a certain amount of weapons advertised as "super duper" and, accordingly, very expensive! Because they won’t buy much, knowing that they won’t be attacked and they don’t need much! But show Ponta ...! As they say, show-off is more expensive than money! Still would! They have a "super-duper-weapon", but the Russian "rogue" does not have that! ...

[Zx_spectrum]

BUK was created by Soviet scientists. After the collapse of the USSR, part of the defense scientists left for Israel.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Zx_spectrum

After the collapse of the USSR, part of the defense scientists left for Israel.

Wash floors and check bags at the supermarket entrance. They were not allowed to go to the defense industry for a cannon shot, they have their own mafia since the 50s, and they don't need extra ones there. Yes, and they feared espionage. And today 90% of these "defense workers" are very old people.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: And Us Rat

Wash floors and check bags at the supermarket entrance.

Not certainly in that way. a certain part was able to take its rightful place. But of course, not all ... Who studied what, as they say

[And Us Rat]

Quote: andreykolesov123

a certain part was able to take its rightful place

Who? Is there any example? All Russian-speaking people working in the defense industry came as children and studied in Israeli universities.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: And Us Rat

Who? Is there any example? All Russian-speaking people working in the defense industry came as children and studied in Israeli universities.

I heard about one of the Sorek. but I will not give anyone's data, of course.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: andreykolesov123

I heard about one of the Sorek

This is called a rumor.

[knn54]

An excellent complex, but not capable of firing directly on the move.
The installation, which is placed on a chassis with a 6x6 wheel arrangement, is not very good in terms of cross-country ability.
For some reason, they abandoned the rapid-fire cannon, as on the "Shell".

[Romario_Argo]

SAM Spyder with SAM Rafael Derby has ARGSN, speed 1,44 km / s, range up to 35 km.
the cost of missiles is $ 300
SAM Python 5, 2-mode optical and IR head, speed 1,44 km / s, range 15 km.
did not find prices
It would be better to buy a Buk-M2 or M3 air defense system from us, they intercept targets with a speed of 3 km / s.
We don't sell S-350 yet

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Romario_Argo

It would be better to buy from us

Who is better? US?
Yes.
But why would they?
They are no longer our allies.

[Fedor M]

Of course for us. What does allies have to do with it, they are not anywhere, only on paper and in words

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Fedor M

What does allies have to do with it?

Despite the fact that they are members of NATO, and there is discipline.
And in general, now we are terrible enemies for them, they are fighting with us on all fronts, so your Wishlist, that they can buy something from us there, to put it mildly, are ridiculous.

[Fedor M]

What discipline are you talking about? And what are the fronts? Are you drunk or what ????

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Fedor M

What discipline are you talking about? And what are the fronts? Are you drunk or what ????

Well, for example such.

The Czech Foreign Ministry admitted that it could expel about 60 employees of the Russian embassy from the country.

Or

Deputy Foreign Minister of the Czech Republic Martin Smolek handed Russian Ambassador Alexander Zmeevsky a note demanding full compensation for the damage caused by the explosions in Vrbetica

Well and so on.
So who of the drunken ns still needs to be figured out.

[Fedor M]

It's just a policy and you can put on their presentation

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Fedor M

on their presentation you can put

Yes, this is understandable that it is possible, and actually put it.
But then we are discussing the hypothetical probability of their purchase of our weapons, which, due to this simple politics, is not just zero, but minus 100 percent.

[Fedor M]

Yes, there is no such probability that it is to be discussed. They live according to the principle that I will frostbite my grandmother's ears. Yeah and * er on them

[Romario_Argo]

But why would they?
They are no longer our allies

You simply do not take into account the system transfer of data from our export radars to our ACS
than the United States, by the way, is very dissatisfied with the sale of our air defense systems to other countries

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Romario_Argo

SAM Spyder with SAM Rafael Derby has ARGSN, speed 1,44 km / s, range up to 35 km.

There is also a "Python-5" with a thermo-optical seeker, the launch containers can always be replaced with the SPYDER-MR and SPYDER-LR models. The range is 50 and 80 km, respectively.

Quote: Romario_Argo

It would be better to buy a Buk-M2 or M3 air defense system from us

Apparently they liked the radar.
EL / M-2106 ATAR (Advanced Tactical Acquisition Radar) is a semiconductor three-coordinate medium-range L-band radar with an active phased array (AFAR) in elevation. The radar detects a wide variety of low RCS targets, including low speed and unmanned targets.

The radar can track up to 500 targets simultaneously, has a 360 ° azimuth viewing sector, all-weather at any time of the day, and includes modern electronic counter-countermeasures for operation in conditions of dense enemy electronic warfare.

Detection range:
Maximum - 180 km
Fighter - 70-110 km
Hovering helicopter - 40 km
Unsllot machine - 40-60 km
Coordinate accuracy:
Range - 30 m
Azimuth - 0,5 °
Elevation - 1,0 °
Review sector
Elevation - 60 °
Radial speed selection:> 10 m / s
Peak power: 1,6 kW
Range: L

Quote: Romario_Argo

intercept targets with a speed of 3 km / sec.

These are tracking parameters, not interception parameters.
Detection and target designation station 9S36M - tracking targets in the range: range from 2,5 to 70 km; heights from 0,005 to 35 km; speed up to 3000 m / s.

[Gori]

Quote: And Us Rat

Peak power: 1,6 kW

There is no concept of peak power in radar. There is a concept of impulse power.

Quote: And Us Rat

The radar detects a wide variety of low RCS targets, including low speed and unmanned targets.

What is the minimum target RCS that the EL / M-2106 ATAR (Advanced Tactical Acquisition Radar) can still detect? Speak to the end of the expression. Can you name which radar parameter is determined?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Gori

There is no concept of peak power in radar.

It is possible in Russian-language terminology, but in Israel they use Hebrew-speaking or English-speaking terminology.
In the English brochure it is called "Transmissin: 1600W Peak".
So all claims to the translator of the article on Wikipedia.

Quote: Gori

What is the minimum target RCS that the EL / M-2106 ATAR (Advanced Tactical Acquisition Radar) can still detect?

The manufacturer does not announce the numbers, only guarantees the detection of small UAVs (Ultra Lights) at a distance of 40-60 km.
The Ultra Lights category is roughly like this:

Quote: Gori

Speak to the end of the expression. Can you name which radar parameter is determined?

I did not understand the essence of the question.

[gregor6549]

As for the combination of cannon artillery with SAM "in one bottle", for example, in Pantsir, I am personally plagued by vague doubts.
To begin with, enemy air forces can carry out raids from different angles. In this case, some targets may be more likely to be hit by missiles and others by cannons.
In addition, the algorithms for controlling the guns and missiles are completely different, which adds a load on the Pantsir operators in the process of deciding on which targets to fire and what.
Further. Turning the massive Carapace turret to different azimuths requires both decent energy costs and turnaround time. I'm not even talking about the complexity and weight of the servo, which rotates this "head" in different directions.
As a result, the effectiveness of the Carapace in a stellar strike compared to a raid from one direction or in a narrow sector can seriously decrease. Not up to the baseboard, but still
And further. The installation of an active radar over the cockpit of the Pantsir operators can significantly complicate their life, up to the loss of it when the enemy uses anti-radar homing missiles (PRR) from distances where neither the Pantsir's guns nor missiles can reach their carrier.
There are also great doubts about Pantsir's ability to destroy these missiles. modern PRR can go to the intended target using different flight profiles (including extremely low altitudes) and guidance methods. Hope for "trickery", i.e. on the radar simulators of the Pantsir designed to lure the PRR on itself, it is also very ghostly, tk. modern PRR can carry out a fairly fine analysis of radiation sources and weed out false targets.
Somehow, in the mid-70s, I tried to discuss these issues with the developers of Tunguska (the forerunner of Pantsir) at the Donguzsky test site, but they referred to the indisputable authority of the Chief Designer and the discussion went into the clay soil of the test site.
Of course, where the Carapace can be placed along the perimeter of the protected object with a cut for each of them a narrow zone of responsibility, then the Carapace can be quite effective. But where a single Armor is involved, for example on ships, there arises a big question how long it can hold out with a massive raid from different angles and angles.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: gregor6549

t where a single Shell is involved, for example, on ships, there arises a big question how long it can hold out with a massive raid from different angles and angles.

Yes, no question at all, until the second rocket.

[gregor6549]

By the way about the birds, uv. Konstantin.
The Americans were able to integrate the CIWS Phalanx s sensors with the Ci-RAM missile launcher.
But at the same time, they did not include in this complex the six-barreled cannon that was originally part of the CIWS Phalanx https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/capabilities/products/searam-ship-defense-system
And purely artillery CIWS Phalanx were on the ships. and did not go anywhere.
The solution looks (in spite of Armor, Tunguska and other Chestnuts) quite logical and economical.

[Gori]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Yes, no question at all, until the second rocket.

Not properly. And how many missiles do you need to hit one target of the Pantsir-S2 air defense missile system and Israel's Iron Dome?

[Gori]

Quote: gregor6549

To begin with, enemy air forces can carry out raids from different angles. In this case, some targets may be more likely to be hit by missiles and others by cannons.
In addition, the algorithms for controlling the guns and missiles are completely different, which adds a load on the Pantsir operators in the process of deciding on which targets to fire and what.
Further. Turning the massive Carapace turret to different azimuths requires both decent energy costs and turnaround time. I'm not even talking about the complexity and weight of the servo, which rotates this "head" in different directions.

Write, as always, a lie.

The Pantsir differs from world analogues of short-range air defense / missile defense systems primarily by the use of the latest target detection and tracking devices. This includes three radars, one of which has a phased antenna array, that is, there is not a mechanical but an electronic deflection of the scanning beam. There is also an optical location station operating in the visible and infrared ranges. The reaction speed is record-breaking - 4 sec. Guidance of the missile and artillery mount is carried out at a speed of 100 degrees per second.

The rocket is also unique, it is bicaliber. The caliber of the first stage is larger than the second: 170 mm and 90 mm, respectively. This is necessary in order not to lose energy when shooting the first stage, in this mode the speed of the second (non-motorized) stage is reduced by only 40 m / s per kilometer.

The artillery mount uses a 30 mm twin anti-aircraft machine gun that fires 5000 rounds per minute.

[Alexander Pseudonym]

Old Israeli complexes Barak 8 shot down Russian missiles fired by Iskander in Azerbaijan. It is a fact. After the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, Israel increased the number of orders.

[Dym71]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

Old Israeli complexes Barack 8 shot down in Azerbaijan

Did Azerbaijan buy old stuff from Israel?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

After the war with Azerbaijan, Armenia, Israel increased the number of orders.

Are you hinting at the old truth - Cui prodest?

[Fungus]

Stop posting this old fake about Iskander. Two Iskander were fired at Shushi and no one shot them down. Moreover, the Azerbaijanis did not even shoot down the old Elbrus ...

[Bat]

Quote: Fungus

Moreover, the Azerbaijanis did not even shoot down the old Elbrus ...

Not shot down or could not shoot down? That is the question. And that's another story.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Fungus

Stop posting this old fake about Iskander.

Right! Better to put the video.

[Fungus]

Armenians launch Iskander during the day. Azerbaijanis their Barak at night. Kapets logic. The Azerbaijanis found fragments of two missiles near Shusha with shot cassettes. It is not said in Baku how many Azerbaijani soldiers died from these strikes ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Fungus

Armenians launch Iskander during the day. Azerbaijanis their Barak at night. Kapets logic

Duc maybe Iskander was with Estonian components.
I flew very meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Polyssenator]

everything is correct. at night, comrade Kim Il Sung allowed to launch rockets into the Sun

[Bat]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

Barack 8 was shot down in Azerbaijan by Russian Iskander missiles. It is a fact.

As soon as I come home, I will send you a video where Russian diplomats and military personnel say with their own mouths that they control Russian Iskander in Armenia and if ARMENIA, I quote, IF ARMENIA without RUSSIA'S PERMISSION fires with Iskander, the missile will not explode.

If you need a video, I can provide !!!!

[Flooding]

Quote: Yarasa

If you need a video, I can provide !!!!

the citizen wrote briefly and clearly: "it is a fact"
do you think he needs your proof?

[Pytnik]

We've read about air

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

Old Israeli barak 8 complexes shot down Russian Iskander missiles in Azerbaijan. It is a fact.

How many Iskander were shot down ??? Well, the fact is in the studio, iskanders shot down photos !!

[Fedor M]

What have you smoked? Give contact

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

Old Israeli complexes barrack 8

Well, they are not that shy.

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

shot down Russian Iskander missiles in Azerbaijan

Well, the Barak series was originally created as a ship missile defense system, which means it should be able to shoot down ballistic missiles. I don't understand the excitement around this event.

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

After the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, Israel increased the number of orders.

It is true that it is, that is.

[Alexander Pseudonym]

Israel has newer complexes than barrack 8, but even barrack 8 was shot down by the vaunted Iskander.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Alexander Pseudonym

Israel has newer complexes than barrack 8, but even barrack 8 was shot down by the vaunted Iskander.

Where did you get this from? Continuous OBS. Such statements can be made on the basis of minimal material evidence, but there are no such statements.

[Bat]

The article says that

To date, the Spyder air defense systems are in service with Georgia, Singapore, India, Vietnam and the Philippines.

But this Spider is in service with Azerbaijan, but for some reason it was not indicated in the article.

[Fedor M]

This is on the Wiki, but not on the Article. Well, how to be ?!

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Yarasa

But this Spider is in service with Azerbaijan, but for some reason it was not indicated in the article.

And also forgot Ethiopia and Peru.