The US press spoke about the "national fun" of the Swedes - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines

The Swedes constantly dream of Russian submarines, and not without reason. As the author of an article for the American magazine The National Interest, Sebastien Roblin, writes, this was initiated by the case of a Soviet submarine in 1981.

Sweden, a neutral country, has nevertheless encountered Soviet and Russian submarines cruising along its coast on more than one occasion. The first case occurred back in 1981, when two local fishermen at the end of October noticed a Soviet submarine run aground off the island of Torumskar.

As it turned out, the Soviet submariners were able to approach a distance of 6 miles to the Swedish naval base in Karskrona. As the commander of the submarine explained, the submarine went off course due to problems with the navigation system. After ten days of negotiations and confrontation, the Soviet submarine was floated and put out to sea.

This incident, the author writes, marked the beginning of a 10-year period of intense "hunting" for Soviet submarines, which allegedly constantly entered Swedish waters. Despite all attempts, not a single submarine could be found.

After the end of the Cold War, hidden penetrations of Russian submarines seemed to have stopped, at least until 2014 there were no reports of the discovery of foreign submarines in Swedish waters. However, everything changed after Russia "occupied" the Ukrainian Crimea and finally spoiled relations with the West, as Roblin writes.

It was in 2014 that Sweden was again seized by hysteria over the search for a Russian mini-submarine, allegedly seen by civilians in Swedish waters. The weekly activities carried out by the Swedish Navy to locate the submarine did not bring success, but Sweden does not intend to abandon their "national fun" - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines, and therefore continue to search for submarines from time to time.

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[Boris Ivanov]

this has been clear since Soviet times. that this is their tradition, such a custom)

[Finches]

According to the professor at the University of Southern Denmark, Magnus Wahlberg, the sounds that the Swedish military for many years perceived as the sounds of Russian submarines are actually made by herring - shoals of which hang out in the water area! That is, the combat readiness of the Swedish troops for tens of years was based solely on the "fart" of herring, which, however, did not prevent the Swedish generals from making loud statements about the Russian invasion and constantly squeezing the money out of the budget!

[Egoza]

Quote: Finches

the sounds that the Swedish military for decades were perceived as the sounds of Russian submarines are actually made by herring - shoals of which hang out in the water area!

This is how I imagine the Swedish generals watching closely ... and at the same time they also sing a song!
"I love in the summer with a fishing rod
Sit over the river
A bottle of vodka with a glass
Have a reserve with you.
A bottle of vodka with a glass
Have a reserve with you.

Here you pull out the cheat,
Put it on the hook
Throw in, drink a glass
And lie down on the sand.
Throw in, drink a glass
And lie down on the sand.

You lie, and the fish bites,
Doubt is far away.
Sometimes you get so fucked up
It's too hard to get up!
Sometimes you get so fucked up
It's too hard to get up!

The midnight clock strikes
And you yourself are glad, not happy
With the unfortunate prey
You are dragging yourself back.
With the unfortunate prey
You are already trudging back. "

[AUL]

Quote: Egoza

"I love in the summer with a fishing rod
Sit over the river
A bottle of vodka with a glass
Have a reserve with you.
A bottle of vodka with a glass
Have a reserve with you ....

Yes ... not Agnia Barto ...

[Egoza]

Quote from AUL

Yes ... not Agnia Barto ...

Yes, this is a song from the film "Youth of Maxim" and is most likely taken from folklore. Performed by Boris Chirkov.

[Gennady M]

The people simply did not watch the Soviet classics "Maxim Trilogy"

[tihonmarine]

Quote from AUL

Yes ... not Agnia Barto ...

But about vodka and a fishing rod is rightly said.

[AUL]

Quote: tihonmarine

Sometimes you get so fucked up
It's too hard to get up!

To do this, it is not necessary to drag a fishing rod to the river - either you break it, or you lose it, or someone is a spioneer. Well, yes, this is a topic for a separate dispute, you should not flood here. There is a desire to argue - write in a personal.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

NOT about vodka and a fishing rod. On this topic.
Yes, it seems that the Swedes have bigger and stronger brakes than the Estonians: ONCE a Soviet submarine ran aground in their waters - and now they will be afraid for the rest of their lives and will catch Russian submarines in their waters! Although, perhaps, it's all about a good reason to knock out money for your military budget ...

[bk0010]

Quote from AUL

Yes ... not Agnia Barto ...

Who tears paws of bears,
Bunnies are blowing in the rain
Tannin threw the ball into the river,
Did the bull break the board?
Everyone knows who:
This is Agnia Barto!

[AUL]

Quote: bk0010

Who tears paws of bears,

They dropped the bear on the floor,
tore off the bear's paw,
hit in the teeth twice,
gouged out both eyes,
kicked in the kidneys with a boot,
they put a sharpener in the liver,
they drove their muzzle on the ground,
even infected with AIDS!
I won’t leave him anyway,
because he is good!
(Full text of the poem)

[Peak]

The US press spoke about the "national fun" of the Swedes - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines

So how's the catch? Is there something to brag about in the "peculiarities of the national fishing"?

[SERGE ANT]

There was such a Karl Bildt. As a young politician, in the 80s he built his career on the fear of submarines. In the 90s, already as prime minister, he sent an official note of protest to Yeltsin. By the time Yeltsin was supposed to write an answer, the specialists of the Swedish Navy had already realized that these were martens playing next to the hydrophone. Between 1980 and 1995 alone, 6437 sightings of Russian submarines were recorded (none, of course, was confirmed). In 2014, during the last incident, there were about 300 signals from the public in one week. I would say that in total there will be about 10 thousand observations. This is a huge deal. If you count according to the theory of "six handshakes", it turns out that every Swede knows someone who has seen a Russian submarine. That is, it is a great cultural phenomenon. National fun, which has been going on since the fifties of the last century.

[AUL]

Quote: SERGE ant

specialists of the Swedish Navy have already realized that they were martens, who played next to the hydrophone.

Martens? Near the hydrophone ?!
Maybe, after all, sea otters?

[AUL]

Quote from AUL

Martens? Near the hydrophone ?!

Those who put downsides (for general development).
Martes [1] (lat. Martes) are a genus of carnivorous mammals from the mustel family (Mustelidae).
...
Martens have a slender body 40 to 80 cm long. The body color is usually brown or brown with a light spot on the throat and chest. The exception is harza, which has a bright color from a combination of white, black, yellow and brown colors. The muzzle is broad at the base with large, rounded ears. The limbs are fingertip. The hair on the tail is elongated. There are two pairs of nipples in the groin [1].
...
They live in forests. Each individual occupies a permanent site throughout its life. Depending on the species, the season of the year, the feeding capacity of the plot, the individual territory ranges from 4 to 50 km². They feed on small rodents, hares, pikas, less often birds and their eggs,

So, are the Swedish Navy specialists going to catch Russian boats with their hydrophones in their forests? A useless occupation, our boats rarely call in there!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: SERGE ant

There was such a Karl Bildt. As a young politician, in the 80s he built his career on the fear of submarines.

Fear is fear, and the planned cuts in the Ministry of Finance of Sweden did not take place, and the budget was corrected.

[Silver bullet]

It was in 2014 that Sweden was again seized by hysteria over the search for a Russian mini-submarine, allegedly seen by civilians in Swedish waters. 
Everything is simply explained by comrades, the Swedes have just watched the "secret" documentary of the GRU General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation "Features of national fishing", and raised the alarm

[Uncle lee]

These guys are smart ...

And this one is not very ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Silver bullet

It was in 2014 that Sweden was again seized by hysteria over the search for a Russian mini-submarine, allegedly seen by civilians in Swedish waters. 

The main reason is there, you can ask the government for money, 30 years on this and left. Tolya Gushchin and Lesha Avrukevich helped them.

[Anachoret]

Here they are) they cannot distinguish a herring from a submarine, but still there - "they are looking for a Russian trace"))) Purely for whipping up hysteria out of solidarity with small British crowned relatives?))
And even if they find it? What's next? As in a joke about a two-meter lover in the closet))
The submarine commander asks, playing with the warhead, "Well, what have you found?"
To which the Swedes will answer, no, I haven’t looked in the neighboring bay yet)

[Lionnvrsk]

Despite all attempts, not a single submarine could not be found.

The author of the article at NI says: “This episode marked the beginning of a decade of intensified spearfishing by the Swedish Navy. However, despite the use of many torpedoes, depth charges and mines on dozens of contacts, Soviet submarines, apparently have not been destroyed."

but they do not intend to give up their "national fun" - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines in Sweden and therefore from time to time continue to search for submarines

And in the original, the article ends like this- Spearfishing has sparked controversy within the country. The Swedish right saw the submarine incident as evidence of the Soviet Union's ill-intentioned intentions and the need to step up military deterrence. Some left-wing Swedes hinted that the Swedish fleet was shying away from its shadows, and suggested that the discovered submarines were in fact NATO submarines, provoking the Swedes against the Soviets.

Submarine infiltration ended with the end of the Cold War - but not forever. As relations between Russia and the West deteriorated sharply in 2014 with Moscow's seizure of the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine, the Swedish Navy spent a week trying to track down a mini-submarine that was reportedly sighted several times in Swedish waters.

[rocket757]

This is a birth trauma. He hears / dreams of the cannonade of Peter's cannons. It's forever.

[aszzz888]

rocket757 (Victor)
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This is a birth trauma. He hears / dreams of the cannonade of Peter's cannons. It's forever.

their pants haven't dried out from Poltava yet ...

[rocket757]

Memories of the past "greatness, victories, defeats" poison many of the present, calm existence.
History should be remembered, read and .... just not obligatory to spoil your life, repeating previous mistakes.

[Reptiloid]

Hail Victor!

Quote: rocket757

Memories of the past "greatness, victories, defeats" poison many of the present, calm existence .......

Swedes are certainly not allowed to sleep well they think, they regret the defeats at Poltava and Gangut, the loss of Finland, the non-Baltic states, Karelia in favor of Russia ...... however, they lost Norway without our help. And that would be Sweden "from moz to mozha", How w Poland.

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

Swedes are certainly not allowed to sleep well

This is not our problem .... let them drink vodka or sleeping pills, at night ....

[Peak]

Quote: rocket757

This is a birth trauma. He hears / dreams of the cannonade of Peter's cannons. It's forever.

This is ... They are not only is heard but is seen

They will never forget the Russian cavalry at the walls of Stockholm (Stockholm) on March 7, 1809 ...

[rocket757]

If you understand, remember, in geyrope, and in many other places, the possessed people there should remember how it always happened !!! How it is when "they are going, going, in Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Warsaw .... and in other places, OUR COSSACKS !!!"

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

If you understand, remember, in geyrope, and in many other places, the possessed people there should remember how it always happened !!! How it is when "they are going, going, in Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Warsaw .... and in other places, OUR COSSACKS !!!"

Surely, these all, beaten by Russia, think that their defeats are pure coincidence and they still scratch their turnips ---

...... if only ...... if only ......

[rocket757]

Those who are supposed to do not scratch their turnips, they know how to count ... that is why they do not fly, do not swim and do not climb where they are not supposed to.
For the layman, a separate "truth, history, reality" is created ... it was like this before, it will always be like this.

[Reptiloid]

Well, yes, so that the layman would be busy, there was a topic of reflection

[rocket757]

The layman should not have a choice, and even free space "in the attic" is an axiom!

[alex neym_2]

No enemy? So come up with it and squeeze the loot under the hysterical screams! Russia in the Baltic has more worthy "opponents" than Sweden - these are tribals with very dangerous, heavily armed, rafts and kites, Poles with a single rotten submarine. Rumor has it that the Swedes, on the guise of a Russian threat, are trying to shove a couple of Poles already worn out, PL ... money, gentlemen's money and nothing personal ...

[rocket757]

Quote: aleks neym_2

money, gentlemen's money and nothing personal ...

The majority, people, at least educated, know how to count ... that is. 2 * 2 = not 5 - 7, of course.
But, fear overshadows the mind, to anyone, if fear is inflamed and "fed" with terrible stories, regularly.

[aszzz888]

Maybe it's better to offer the Swedes to play Russian roulette? They will get much more impressions))

[tralflot1832]

Back in 1981, I was struck by the professional reaction of the commander of the Karlskrona base. In the first hours he offered the commander of the Soviet boat "Swedish Komsomolets" a tug, almost at his own expense. I’ll show the USSR with my hand!

[Docx2032]

Swedes' unhealthy interest in Russian submariners is highly suspicious

Translated: "The flag that must be protected."

[rocket757]

The US press spoke about the "national fun" of the Swedes - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines

... Nothing happens just like that ... it is clear that specific circles need to "warm up" hysteria in Sweden, and in the world in general.
Events, reasons, actions to you, as before .... the scales are different / different. That's all.

[marchcat]

And how much Sweden is a "neutral" country, we know. So, let them look for our boats, the flag is in their hands.

[Flashpoint]

Tantrums again ...

[Victor Tsenin]

There it seems like 99% of the time "tracking" turns out to be farting of fish, yes, yes, it happens

[rotmistr60]

about the "national fun" of the Swedes - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines

"National fun" has long turned into incurable paranoia. It would be better to play rounders while relieving stress and getting a boost of vivacity.

[Lynx2000]

The Swedes constantly dream of Russian submarines, ..... this was initiated by the case of the Soviet submarine in 1981.

Sweden does not intend to give up their "national fun" - tracking down Soviet and Russian submarines, and therefore from time to time continue to search for submarines.

A good friend told (from a young age) a story:
About 23 years ago, he served in the Kamchatka detachment of the BPSS, among other things, they worked out the passage under water to a warship, surfacing, covert boarding, seizure.
One day, on a missile boat, one midshipman secretly told the crew a military secret: they say today there will be a sudden exercise of "combat swimmers" with the aim of capturing their boat, and the neighboring one, in general, to keep watch for everyone!
They watch for an hour, watch for two, do not attack. Suddenly, from the port side (moored aft to the pier) we heard two gurgles ... Stomp on the deck, almost shouts of "Polundra", everything that was heavy, including a couple of crowbars, flew into the water. And there was no attack. Maybe the sea lion regurgitated pollock ...

Likewise, the Swedes heroically repel the attacks of the "enemy from the depths".

[Max PV]

This Swedish "fun" is somewhat reminiscent of wearing a foil hat to protect against "cosmic rays" emitted by reptilians and black humanoids, or grandmothers spying on Kolka from apartment 35, who is "a drug addict and injecting with his marhuanaai."

[White man]

If someone does not find something, then one thing: either the seeker is bad (minus the Swedes), or the hiding one is good (plus our sailors)!

[Alf]

Quote: White man

If someone does not find something, then one thing: either the seeker is bad (minus the Swedes), or the hiding one is good (plus our sailors)!

Most likely, both races .. dolby.

[Gennady Zavalov_2]

The Swedes are not grateful people. They could have erected some kind of monument to our submarines. How many people they feed. Some write about them, others talk, others are making a career, again there is a reason to milk the budget, and you won't even hear a thank you from them. God sent the neighbors.

[saint06]

Once crap I will vilify all my life.

[bk0010]

Yes, let them look: once they found a farting herring, the second - a NATO boat. Dvizhuha! It's nice that at least someone thinks that the Russian Navy has so many boats that it is possible to pay their attention even to the Swedes.

[Glagol1]

The closer the adoption of the defense budget is, the more interesting it is. If a cost cut is being prepared, another Russian boat immediately appears and there are no cuts.
Our boats are the best friends of the Swedish warriors! More precisely, they seem to be somewhere nearby.

[Seld]

A big map before my eyes ...
I am very hesitant, sho our Navy is a specialist sticking out in the Baltic puddle ... By the way, it's shallow water. Insidious shoals. Skerries. Active dry shipping! As far as I have read, any eyeliner tends to go as quickly as possible through the straits into the North Sea. For it is more expensive for itself. By the way, the width of the Baltic Lake is comparable to the size of ... Lake Ladoga ... It is precisely in width. Do not believe me - open the map. What kind of foul vodka is there !!!!!
Contrary to who is there to dive? Any podsklya will be instantly and naturally noticed. And then what is the point in such a discovered "elow sabmarin"?
From the first link, we have this:
The Baltic Sea is located within the continental shelf. The average sea depth is 51 meters. In the areas of shoals, banks, near the islands, there are shallow depths (up to 12 meters). There are several basins in which depths reach 200 meters. The deepest basin is Landsort (58 ° 38 ′ N 18 ° 04 ′ E HGЯOL) with a maximum sea depth of 470 meters.

[Spring fluff]

The level of the article is somewhere in the area of ​​the baseboard. In fact, our boats are quite common there. The article somehow casually reports only about the case in 1981 with the Swedish Komsomol member :), which in itself is worthy of a separate article. For example, last year's case - our boat in the area of ​​the Øresund bridge. It's easy to even find videos on the Internet, young people filmed them on their phones. https://topwar.ru/173510-shvedy-v-vostorge-ot-gigantskoj-rossijskoj-podvodnoj-lodki.html