El Cid Campeador, a hero little known outside of Spain

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El Cid Campeador, a hero little known outside of Spain
Monument to Sid Campeador, Buenos Aires, sculptor - Anna Hayat-Huntington. Copies of this sculpture can be seen in Seville, Valencia, New York and San Francisco

It must be admitted that medieval Spain was very unlucky with its image. Tommaso Torquemada alone is worth something with him with the "sadistic inquisitors." In Germany, over a comparable period of time, more people were burned at the stake than under the "Grand Inquisitor" in Spain. But who now remembers the names of the bishops there?

And Cortez? He was able to conquer Mexico only with the help of numerous local tribes, whose people were already unable to climb tens of thousands of the terrible pyramids of the Aztecs and irrigate them with their blood. And they cannot forgive him in any way for the destruction of this bloody civilization.



Or the "iron duke" Alba ", who"drowned in blood the Netherlands". This was stated by the Dutch Protestants who were never suspected of Christian charity by their contemporaries. They themselves drowned everyone they could get in blood with the greatest pleasure. On both sides in the "Lowlands" then people fought, completely unlike the angels. But what do you know about the atrocities of the goodies in Charles de Coster's novel? A fair bastard, by the way, the main character there is Till Ulenspiegel. And this despite the fact that the Bonfire ennobled this character with all his might. The real Til of folk legends, by our standards, is some kind of animal that accidentally took on a human form.

Gloomy and haughty Don Juan? Also a very unpleasant character. Giacomo Casanova, the jovial and upbeat Venetian playboy, looks much prettier. Because I was not too lazy to imagine myself in this way in my memoirs that have become famous.

And now Christopher Columbus was found guilty of all the sins of the future European colonists. Mad BLM activists race to knock down and disfigure the statues of the great navigator.

And even the knights of Spain were not lucky. In other countries, the "frontmen" of the chivalrous era are heroes like Arthur, Parzifal, Tristan, Siegfried, Roland, Bayard and others. And in Spain - a pitiful parody Don Quixote. Meanwhile, there was a real knight in medieval Spain, an epic hero, whose life and deeds are described in the poem Cantar de mío Cid. And what do you think? Very serious attempts were made (and are still being made) to belittle his image, to declare him only a petty dishonest adventurer, an unprincipled condottieri, most of all thinking about his own benefit.

Outside of Spain, this man is not well known. Some consider him a literary character - like Merlin and Lancelot. Meanwhile, Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, better known as Cid, is a completely historical... And even the heroic poem dedicated to him compares favorably with other works of this genre by the high historical accuracy of the content. The authoritative Spanish researcher Ramón Menéndez Pidal (Director of the Royal Academy of the Spanish Language) considered this poem

"A necessary source for any work on the history of Spain in the eleventh century."

There is no fantasy in it, as in the novels of the Breton cycle. And, unlike the fictional exploits of Roland, who died in a minor skirmish with the Basques (and not with the Saracens), the achievements of our hero are quite real.

Let us first say a few words about this source - Cantar de mío Cid ("Song of my Side").

Sing of my Cid



It is believed that the first verses of this poem were written during the life of the hero. And the full version, according to Pidal, was created in the 40s. XII century somewhere near the border Castilian fortress Medina (now - the city of Medinasem). The oldest surviving manuscript dates back to 1307. It was found in 1775 in one of the Franciscan monasteries by a certain Thomas Antonio Sánchez.


Page of the first copy of "Song of my Side"

Three leaves of this manuscript (the first and two in the middle of the poem) have been lost, but their content was possible to restore from the Spanish chronicles of the XIII-XIV centuries, which give a prosaic retelling of the "Song of Side".


Title page from the sixteenth-century Cronica del muy cauallero el Cid Campeador

Due to the loss of the first sheet of the manuscript, the original title of the poem is unknown to us. The first words of the second sheet are as follows:

"Hic incipiunt gesta Roderici Campi Docti"
("This is where the business of Rodrigo Campeador begins")

The existing and now generally accepted name was proposed in the XNUMXth century by the aforementioned R. M. Pidal.


Spanish postage stamp with a portrait of R. M. Pidal

Another, less well-known version is El Poema del Cid (Poem of Side). The proponents of this name point out that this work is not one "Song" (cantar), but a collection of three separate ones.

The stylistic features of the work make it possible to assert that the Song was written by one author who knew the laws of Castile well in those years. This man clearly sympathized with the caballeros - ordinary nobles, whose honesty and justice he opposes to the treachery and greed of the representatives of the upper strata of the nobility of Castile. Some consider the "Song" to be a work of scholarly monastic poetry. The oldest extant text of the poem even ends with an indication of a certain abbot:

"Written in May by Pedro Abbot."

The abbot at the end of the poem puts the date 1207, although he himself wrote this manuscript a century later. This can be considered proof that he was not the author of the poem, but a scribe: he copied the text of an older manuscript, automatically transferring the previous date to his version.

Others, on the other hand, believe that the poems of "Song of Side" were created by a talented huglar (Spanish folk singer). And they say that this is precisely why it ends with a call to serve wine to the person who read it:

"Es leido, dadnos del vino."

The first part of this "Song" tells about the expulsion of the hero by King Alfonso VI and his successful war with the Moors. In fact, he was then in the service of the emir of Taifa Zaragoza. He fought with Muslims of other typhoons, and with Christians, in particular, defeating the army of Aragon in 1084. Then he received the nickname "Sid" from the Moors subordinate to him, but more on that later. Many of his associates became so rich that the foot soldiers later became caballeros. This fact is not surprising: the mortality of the nobles in constant wars was high, and therefore a warrior who could afford to buy a war horse and equipment easily received the title of caballero (literally - "horseman") - but nothing more. The further way up was closed for him. There was a saying:

"El infanson nace, el caballero se hace"
("Infancon are born, caballeros become")

The second part tells about the conquest of Valencia by Sid, the conclusion of peace between him and the king, and the wedding of the hero's daughters with the Carrio infants.

And the plot of the third was Sid's revenge on the insidious infants, who insulted, beat and, having tied them up, left the hero's daughters married to them to die on the road.


Ignacio Pinazo. Las hijas del Cid ("Sid's Daughters")

In fact, this is the most fabulous and unreliable plot of the poem. The author just once again shows us the meanness, cowardice and worthlessness of the aristocrats, opposing them to Sid and the warriors loyal to him, who achieved everything thanks to their courage and abilities. And the hero's daughters, abandoned by unworthy husbands, marry the kings of Navarre and Aragon. The names of the hero's daughters in the poem and in life do not coincide. The eldest, Christina, did end up in Navarre, but she did not marry the king, but his grandson. But her son became king. The youngest, Maria, was married to the Count of Barcelona.

But notice what real, and not idealized, bookish "noble" knights lived in Europe in the XNUMXth century. P. Granovsky even wrote once that

"Honesty and truthfulness were not considered in the Iberian Peninsula in the era of Sid the necessary accessories of a feudal warrior."

The contemporaries of these Infants were Vseslav Polotsky, Vladimir Monomakh, Oleg Gorislavich, Harald Hardrada, Wilhelm the Conqueror, Omar Khayyam and Macbeth (the same one).

Time heroes


Let us now digress a little and see what was happening in the world at a time when Sid Campeador lived and heroized on the territory of the Iberian Peninsula.

In the year of his birth (1043), the Russian-Varangian fleet, led by Vladimir Novgorodsky (son of Yaroslav the Wise), voivode Vyshata and Ingvar the Traveler (brother of Yaroslav's wife Ingigerd), was defeated in a naval battle near Constantinople.

In 1044 Novgorod-Seversky was founded, and in 1045 the Cathedral of St. Sophia was built in Veliky Novgorod.

Somewhere between 1041-1048 in China, Pi Sheng invented typesetting for typography.

In 1047, Konstantin Monomakh allowed the Pechenegs to cross the Danube and settle on the territory of the empire.

In 1049 Anna Yaroslavna became Queen of France.

In 1051, the Zenkunen War began in Japan, which ended with the victory of government troops in 1062 and led to the strengthening of positions at the imperial court of the Minamoto samurai family.

In 1053, after the Battle of Civitate, the Normans captured Pope Leo IX and released them only after he recognized their conquests in Calabria and Apulia.

In 1054 Yaroslav the Wise died. And the Patriarch of Constantinople Michael Cerularius and the papal legate Cardinal Humbert in the same year anathematized each other, which was the beginning of the division of the Churches.

In 1057, King Macbeth of Scotland died in a battle with the British (the Scottish Parliament in 2005 called for the historical rehabilitation of this king, slandered by Shakespeare).

In 1066 in England one after another the Norwegian king Harald the Severe and the Saka king Harold Godwinson perish, and the Norman Wilhelm becomes the master of the country.

In 1068, the emperor Go-Saijo came to the throne in Japan, relying on the Buddhist clergy in his power.

In 1071, after the defeat at the Battle of Manzikert, Emperor Roman IV was captured by the Seljuks, and the Normans captured Bari, the last Byzantine city in Italy.

In 1076, the Seljuk Sultan Malik Shah conquered Jerusalem.

In the same year, the Chinese organized a campaign against the newly independent North Vietnam (Daviet), but were defeated.

1077 - Kanos humiliation of Emperor Henry IV.

In 1084, Rome was captured by the Normans of Robert Guiscard.

In 1088, the first university in Europe was founded in Bologna.

In 1089, David the Builder came to power in Georgia.

In 1090 the Ismailis built the first citadel of the Assassins in the mountains.

In 1095, Pope Urban II at the Clermont Cathedral in Auvergne called for the release of the Holy Sepulcher, and in the next 1096 Ryazan was mentioned for the first time in documents.

In 1097, a congress of Russian princes was held in Lyubech, the crusaders captured Nicaea and defeated the Seljuks at Doriley.

And finally, the year of El Cid's death - 1099: the crusaders took Jerusalem.

And on the Iberian Peninsula it was the time of the Reconquista. It passed, as they say, neither "wobbly, nor roll" and stretched for more than seven centuries (the time of the beginning of the Reconquista is usually called 711, the end date - January 2, 1492). The fight against the Moors did not prevent the Christian kings from entering into alliances with them, as well as fighting with their fellow believers and even the closest relatives.


Mauritanian typhoons of the Iberian Peninsula, 1080

From 1057 until his death, Sid Campeador fought all the time - both with the Moors and with Christians.

El cid campeador



So, Rodrigo Diaz de Bivar, much better known throughout the world as El Cid Campeador. One often reads about the nobility of his family, which supposedly belonged to the highest nobility of Castile. In fact, the nobles were then divided into three categories. Representatives of the highest nobility were called ricos-hombres - "rich people." Those could be considered nobles who had at least the title of count. They were followed by the infansones, who also received the nobility by inheritance and could own estates. The lowest category was the caballeros, many of whom received this title for personal merit.

The Infants of Carrión, who called themselves "counts by birth," mockingly said that the daughters of Rodrigo Diaz, who had already conquered Valencia, was Sid and Campeador, a very rich man, finally, unworthy to be their wives - only concubines. So the nobility of our hero is greatly exaggerated. He was an Infançon, but was not part of the elite of the Castilian kingdom. He achieved success and high position thanks to his personal abilities and courage.

Sid managed to serve both Christian Castile and Moorish Zaragoza, and ended his life as the ruler of Valencia. Where did he get such a sonorous and beautiful-sounding nickname? And what does it mean?

El Cid and Campeador


El Sid (originally Al Sayyid) means "lord" in Arabic. Most likely, this was not the name of the hero by the enemies, but by those Arabs who served in his troops during the period of the hero's stay in the Mauritanian kingdom (typha) of Zaragoza.

The word Campeador in modern Spanish means "winner". It comes from the phrase campi doctor, the literal translation of which is "master (master) of the battlefield." He is often translated into Russian as "fighter". This nickname for our hero appeared earlier - even before the service with the Moors. He received it for his exploits in the service of the Castilian king Sancho II during the battles against his brothers - King Leon Alfonso VI and King Garcia II of Galician. According to one version, the hero got it after defeating the Navarre knight in a duel for the controversial castle. He then fought not for himself, but for Castile.

During the life of Rodrigo Diaz, some called him Sid, others - Campeador. The combined use of these nicknames was first recorded in the Navarro-Aragonese document Linage de Rodric Díaz (circa 1195). And here the hero is already referred to as "My Cid Campeador" (Mio Cid el Campeador).

Sid's constant epithet is "glorious with a beard." And he himself, threatening the offenders of his daughters, threatens unworthy infants:

"I swear by my beard not torn by anyone."


El Cid on a Spanish postage stamp

A beard in Spain of those years, as in pre-Petrine Russia, is a symbol of dignity. To touch someone else's beard with your hands (let alone grab hold of it) was a monstrous insult. And they didn't just swear by their beard.

Another characteristic feature of Sid, constantly mentioned in the "Song" - "blood on the elbows". No, this is not an indication of cruelty: his hands are in the blood of enemies - not executed, but personally slain in a personal duel.


Jaime Lorente as Sid, 2020 Spanish TV Series

Hero's weapon


Like any other respected (and self-respecting) hero, Sid had swords with special properties (in Russian epics, such blades were called kladenets).

The first of these was a sword called Colada, which he inherited after defeating the Count of Barcelona, ​​Berenguer Ramon II. Sebastian de Covarrubias suggested that the name of this sword comes from the phrase "acero colado" ("cast steel"). The Song of Sid states that Colada, raised by a brave warrior, frightened his opponents and cut any armor. Now this sword is kept in the royal palace of Madrid, but its authenticity is in doubt due to the hilt. Some argue that the blade itself is real, just the hilt was replaced in the XNUMXth century. However, most researchers still believe that this sword was forged in the XNUMXth century.

The second sword was called Tizona. Most likely, this name comes from the word tizon - "cutting off the head." But there is also a version according to which the name of the sword may originate from the word τύχη (happiness, fortuna). Sometimes its name is translated as "fire smut". But this is not true: the word tyzon at a later time began to be used in the meaning of "sword" (any - that is, it became a kind of kenning).

According to legend, this blade (Tizona) previously belonged to the Moorish ruler of Valencia Yusuf, who was defeated by Sid. According to another version, he was taken in a battle with the Moroccan emir Boucard - after the conquest of Valencia by Sid. The sword is 93,5 cm long and weighs 1,15 kg. Ephesus, again, was replaced during the reigns of Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon. On the blade itself there are two inscriptions on both sides. First: "Yo soy la Tizona fue hecha en la era de mil e quarenta" ("I am Tizona, created in 1040"). Second: “Ave Maria gratia plena; dominus mecum "(" Hail Mary, blessed; may the Lord be with me ").

In 1999, analysis of a fragment of its blade by metallurgists proved that it was made in the 2001th century, probably in Cordoba, which belonged to the Moors. A XNUMX examination carried out by researchers at the University of Madrid also showed that the manufacture of the blade can be dated to the XNUMXth century.

The strength of both Tison and Colada depended on the owner: they did not reveal their properties to the weak and did not help. And therefore the cowardly and insidious Carrio Infants, who received these blades from Sid as a wedding gift, returned them to him without regret. And only when they saw Tizona and Colada in the hands of their rivals in a duel, they were horrified and hastened to admit defeat.

An ancient legend claims that after his death, El Cid's body, fully armed, was placed in the tomb of the convent church of San Pedro de Cardena. When a Jew tried to rip out the dead hero's beard, Tysona struck him to death. The monks revived the Jew, he was baptized and became a servant at this monastery.

The alleged Tizona for a long time belonged to the family of the Marquis Falses and was kept in their family castle. An ancient tradition says that one of the members of this family chose a sword as a reward from Ferdinand of Aragon.

In 2007, the authorities of the Autonomous Community of Castile and Leon managed to buy the blade for 1,6 million euros. Today it can be seen in the museum of the city of Burgos.


We see Tysona's replica with an inauthentic hilt (like in a museum) in the hands of Charles Heston, who played Sid in the 1961 film:


El Cid's Warhorse



Sid's horse bore the name Babieca (Bavieca), and, according to the most common version, it meant ... "Silly" (!). According to legend, the godfather of the hero, Pedro El Grande, decided to give him an Andalusian stallion for his majority. He did not like the choice of the godson, and he shouted to him: "Babieka!" (stupid!). According to another version, it was King Sanchez II who gave the hero a stallion from his stable - for a duel with the best Aragonese knight. And this horse got its name from the province of Babia in Leon, where it was bought. The poem "Carmen Campidoktoris" states that Babek is a gift to Sid from a certain Moor. That is, his real name is "Barbeka": "Barbarian" or "Horse of the Barbarian". And in "Song of my Side" it is said that Babek is the horse of the former Moorish ruler of Valencia, found in his stable after the conquest of the city: again "The Horse of the Barbarian". These versions are better and more logical than the first, but less well known. It is simply amazing how readily all sorts of "popularizers" grab any nonsense, sometimes choosing the most ridiculous version of all possible.

In folk songs, it is said about Sid's love for his horse and the fear that this stallion instilled in his enemies.


Babek, by the way, is mentioned not only in songs and fairy tales, but also in some historical documents.

The following fact speaks eloquently about the relationship between the horse and the owner: El Cid ordered the burial of his "comrade in arms" on the territory of the San Pedro de Cardena monastery, in which he studied in his youth, and which he himself chose as a place for his tomb.


Tomb of Babeka in the Monastery of San Pedro de Cardena

In the next article, we will continue the story about Side and talk about his life and exploits.
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  1. +11
    5 August 2021 04: 55
    Sorry for the pun and irony. Such a volume of text is a well-deserved plus !!!
  2. +13
    5 August 2021 05: 03
    There are no words! Honestly, before this article, Valery had never even heard of the hero Side by the corner of his ear!
    Good day everyone, thank you Valery!
    1. +13
      5 August 2021 07: 50
      Good morning! )))
      Out of the corner of my ear I heard it, somewhere in some book flashed, but nothing more. Then I was not even interested. Now Valery gave such a seed that curiosity aroused.
      I liked the "overview of world events" that took place during the life of the hero of the story.
    2. +8
      5 August 2021 10: 16
      Greetings, Vlad.
      I don't know, but if I were asked to name the three most famous knights, I would, without a shadow of a doubt, name Arthur, Roland and Sid. The top five would include Beowulf and Siegfried. It's even surprising to me that Sid's persona aroused such interest from the audience, especially since we mentioned him in previous discussions. I myself posted a photo of his swords in the comments, I remember exactly.
      I'm not showing off, it's really strange to me.
  3. +12
    5 August 2021 05: 19
    Live and learn. The hero is really little-known, and the article is really very interesting!
  4. +16
    5 August 2021 05: 19
    Valeria muchísimas gracias for the material, we look forward to continuing!
    An ancient legend claims that after his death, El Cid's body, fully armed, was placed in the tomb of the convent church of San Pedro de Cardena, which he himself chose as the site for his tomb.
    And grateful descendants in 1919 the bodies of Sid and Jimena were solemnly reburied in the most beautiful monastery in Spain - the Cathedral of Our Lady of Burgos.
    It was a tribute to the great hero and his companion, recognition of his contribution to the greatness of Spain. Their grave is very beautiful, it is indicated in a separate line in all advertising brochures as a must-see tourist attraction. By the way, there are a lot of photos here. Tizona is also located there.
    This is a sword that supposedly belonged to the same Sid. Thanks again to the author, all have a nice good day!
  5. +15
    5 August 2021 05: 31
    Until this morning, I sincerely believed that Sid was an exclusively literary character with no real prototype. Thank you, Valery, now I know. smile
    Special thanks for the "lyrical digression" from the theme of the main Hero:
    Time heroes
    Let us now digress a little and see what was happening in the world at a time when Sid Campeador lived and heroized on the territory of the Iberian Peninsula.

    Gerard Philippe also played the role of Sid; the older generation remembers this actor well.
    1. +11
      5 August 2021 09: 09
      And then, on "Fanfan-Tulip" (and that's why they made it colored) I don't remember anyone who would not run away from school. Guys, of course, look at Gina Lollobrigida, but how could it be otherwise. Girls, of course, at Gerard Philippe.
      A beautiful couple was ..
      1. +12
        5 August 2021 09: 26
        And the couple is good and the film is great. But I really liked the sergeant (?) Fier-a-Bra performed by the incomparable Noel Ricover. laughing
        1. +10
          5 August 2021 12: 14
          sergeant (?) Fier-a-Bra
          By the way, in the novel "Fanfan-Tulip"
          Pierre-Gilles Weber does not have such a character, in the cavalry (then at that time there should have been sergeants, not sergeants - those in the infantry) regiment Royal-Cravat Fanfan was brought by the recruiter Sergeant La Rame
          Suddenly, around a bend in the road, Fanfan saw an extraordinary procession. Four flutists and four drummers marched in front of a huge bruiser, dressed in the magnificent uniform of the French guard - a blue uniform, like the royal guards, with red lapels and gold lace on the shoulders and back, a white waistcoat and white leggings; his dapper cocked hat, worn over a horsehair wig, was adorned with a white, gold-embroidered cockade. A saber striking his calves, a forged mustache, and a reed cane with a copper knob gave him a majestic appearance. Behind him, three soldiers carried long poles on which fried rabbits, geese, ducks were strung ...
          In the film, Rickover's character is Sergeant
          Sergeant Fier-a-Bra, scratching his back, turns around and spits.
          Narrator: Guichard Jr., nicknamed Fier-a-Bra ... Fencing teacher ... brawler ... braggart ... impudent ... Instills fear in the whole regiment ... Brave like a lion ... Stupid like a donkey ... Jealous like a tiger ... Feels for Adeline ...
          Fier-a-Bra smiles at Adeline, who, unhitching her horses, greets him in a friendly way.
          Narrator: Well, you get the idea ...
          And Gerard Philippe reminded me of our Oleg Strizhenov alone?
      2. +8
        5 August 2021 14: 30
        "Fanfan" was the most beautiful film.
        Comrades, perhaps I am mistaken, but besides the black-and-white version of "Fanfan" there was also a color version. I can't say for sure: I've watched for a long time
        1. +7
          5 August 2021 17: 58
          there was also a colored one.
          . Glory, good evening! Fanfan, was filmed on black and white film, I don't know if there was a colorized version, but it was in color, filmed somewhere in the 90s of the last century, by maestro Luc Besson, a remake, but filmed superbly, it exactly repeats the first film, to the smallest detail, there are some additions, but this is not essential and the film does not spoil
          1. +4
            5 August 2021 19: 02
            Lesh, hello. So I was not mistaken that there is also a color version? I remembered that it was black and white. Someone on TV flashed something familiar and colorful. So I began to doubt
    2. Fat
      +11
      5 August 2021 10: 15
      hi Konstantin. I would like to thank the author. The article turned out to be gorgeous and Ryzhov style ... Yes
      Now the sequel is eagerly awaited. While it is formed, I hope not a big pause, I will waste my hands and wipe my glasses smile
  6. +10
    5 August 2021 05: 57
    How the plots are repeated:
    "They tied Galya to the pine tree with braids" (c).

    An inner feeling that Don Quixote is more popular with us than Roland and the Knights of the Round Table combined.

    And if you also remember Lope da Vega.

    In general, there are more than enough cute Spaniards in world history.
  7. +11
    5 August 2021 06: 01
    The glow of the moon illuminated people who rushed about in terror, ran, not knowing where, with one goal - to escape death. The wounded screamed, almost invisible under the horses' feet. Several tents caught fire - the flame split the night darkness into pieces, highlighting the scurrying figures.

    Enough, Rui Diaz told himself. Lesson taught.

    He pulled on the reins, stopped the horse. Then he barked as loud as he could, overlapping the noise of reprisals:

    - Feles!

    - I'm here, Sit!

    Yes, my nephew, as always, was there, half a body behind. He blindly followed him at a gallop and was ready to obey any of his orders.

    - Let's retreat! Blow off the retreat!

    The horn sang: twice - shortly and once - long. Rough, rough sounds echoed over the shouts and clang of weapons. Everywhere riders began to hold their horses, turn them back to the stream. Rui Diaz, without moving, with sharp jerks of the reins forced the horse to rotate around its axis. A well-known remedy to calm an animal if, by ruthless spurring, brought it to a frenzy.

    - All back! He shouted again. - Back! Let's go!

    He knew that the riders, flushed by the race and the wheelhouse, did not listen to him. And the blood pounds deafeningly in the temples, drowning out all other sounds. However, the plaintive call of the horn, obedient to his will, conveyed the order, and little by little even those soldiers who had already broken through to the very core of the camp began to turn their horses. And then black shadows swiftly flashed past him in the fractional and booming clatter of hooves.

    Rui Diaz scrolled in place for the last time, pulling alternately one or the other reason, making sure that everyone seemed to have moved away. Then he turned to the flaming tents, looked at the confusion and panic that reigned in this part of the camp, stood up on the stirrups and shouted at the top of his throat:

    - I am Rodrigo Diaz from Vivar! Did you hear my name ?! I am the one they call Sid Campeador, and this is my hello to the King of Aragon.

    Then he sheathed the sword, touched the horse with his spur, and set off at a slow trot after his own. And then I noticed that blood, which had already stained the glove, was dripping down the hand, from the right elbow to the wrist and further, to the palm. But it was someone else's blood.

    Arturo Perez Riverte, "Sid".
    One of the favorite passages in the novel.
  8. +9
    5 August 2021 06: 25
    Valery! Five plus!
  9. +12
    5 August 2021 06: 26
    I remember that under the "totalitarian regime", a whole series of medieval literature was published, the Song of Roland, Side, The Word about the Regiment, the Scandinavian sagas and not just, but with comments. In addition to this series, there was a collection in one book, but there are fewer and shorter comments. The author, an interesting topic began, it will be interesting. But you don't need to compare who is better, who is worse. What are Catholics, what are Protestants of different nationalities were worth each other, the Taborites, for example, happily burned their supporters at the stake, but they were a bit radical.
    1. +3
      5 August 2021 17: 57
      Probably, this episode came across to me ... For me, Arthur, Roland and Sid are characters equally familiar and equally significant. Apparently, sometimes something interesting can be found in the school library - I dragged these books out of it, if my memory serves me right. As well as "Kalevala".
  10. +7
    5 August 2021 06: 32
    Interestingly, of course I read about Sid, but only in terms of the general history of Spain, they say that Valencia was captured.
  11. +5
    5 August 2021 07: 23
    In other countries, the "frontmen" of the chivalrous era are heroes like Arthur, Parzifal, Tristan, Siegfried, Roland, Bayard and others. And in Spain - a pitiful parody Don Quixote.

    Here the author, according to the tradition already established in his articles, misleads the reader, because the "frontmen" of the Spanish knightly era are in no way inferior to others - these are Siphar, Curial, Tirant, Amadis and others.
    1. VLR
      +10
      5 August 2021 07: 51
      And many people know the heroes you listed? Unlike Arthur, Tristan, Roland? If someone saw out of the corner of his eye and glimpsed the names of Amadis or Tyrant, then, almost 100%, in Cervantes' novel "Don Quixote", where they are written about them with undisguised and poisonous irony.
      1. +7
        5 August 2021 09: 28
        Well, Cervantes has it written. In 2006, the Spaniards filmed a film (and with an English voice acting) based on the chivalrous novel by Juanot Marturel about Tyrant the White. He even was in the Russian box office, under the name "Byzantine Princess". In general, not everything is so sad with the promotion of Spanish culture.
        Thank you, Valery!
        1. VLR
          +5
          5 August 2021 09: 51
          Well, I haven't even heard of this movie. smile
      2. +5
        5 August 2021 09: 45
        If we proceed from the thesis "do many people know?", Then the majority has a very vague idea about Arthur and Tristan.
        1. VLR
          +7
          5 August 2021 09: 53
          But do they have an idea? And about Sifar and Kurial they do not even have a vague one.
          1. +5
            5 August 2021 11: 29
            Quote: VlR
            And about Sifar and Kurial they do not even have a vague one.

            Why not? I know about curials:
            Curial is a member of the city council of the Italic and provincial city of the Roman Empire, representing the upper class of the urban population. wassat
  12. +7
    5 August 2021 08: 43
    The text of the first page was restored from various sources, including the prose of The Chronicle of Twenty Kings.
    Indeed, the king sent Sid, then not yet Sid, to collect tribute from the vassal kings of Cordoba and Seville, who were terribly at odds with each other. But as soon as Sid was equipped for a business trip, word reached him that Sevilla was preparing a campaign against Cordoba. It is clear that this could interfere with Sid's plans, and he sent letters to both warring parties calling for prudence and threatening military punishment in case of disobedience. But the messages were ignored with contempt, Seville attacked Cordoba and ravaged it. And then the angry Sid moved his army against the invading army.
    AND...

    Sid defeated them and forced them to flee from the field. And in this battle Cid filled Count García Ordoñez and tore a piece of his beard from him, and (captured) also Lope Sanchez, and Diego Perez, and many other knights, and other people without counting. And Sid kept them captive for three days, and then released everyone. When he captured them, he ordered his own to collect all the goods that remained on the battlefield. Then Sid returned with all his retinue and with all his wealth to Almutamid, king of Seville, and gave him and all his Moors what they recognized as their own, and even from other things as much as they wished to take. And since then, the Moors and Christians called this Rui Diaz de Bivar Sid Campeador, which means Rathoborets.
  13. +4
    5 August 2021 08: 56
    And Cortez? He was able to conquer Mexico only with the help of numerous local tribes, whose people were already unable to climb tens of thousands of the terrible pyramids of the Aztecs and irrigate them with their blood. And they cannot forgive him in any way for the destruction of this bloody civilization.
    So in tens of thousands? The hand of the priests, did you get tired of cutting? smile Yes, the Aztec Empire, like most European empires, was ethnically highly diverse. But it was rather a unified system of collecting tribute than a unified management system. Although the cities under Aztec rule were taxed heavily, excavations show a steady increase in the well-being of the commoners after the subjugation of these cities. The Aztecs are not a people, but a community of peoples who inhabited the Valley of Mexico City until 1521. Among these tribes, undoubtedly, the tenochki were the main ones, and they are often called "Aztecs". Also, the Aztecs mean a triple alliance created by: the tenochtitlna tenochtitlna, the acolua Texcoco, the Tlacopan tepanecs. But the modern use of the word "Aztecs" as a term uniting peoples connected by trade, customs, religion and language was proposed by Alexander von Humboldt and borrowed by Mexican scientists of the XIX century, as a means of distinguishing contemporary Mexicans from the indigenous Indian population. The Aztec empire led to one of the largest population explosions - the population of Central America increased from 10 to 15 million people and by the time of the arrival of the "liberator" Cortez, the Aztec state occupied the territory from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean, from the estuaries of the Balsas and Panucodo rivers to the Mayan lands. Separate colonies existed on the lands of Guatemala. Cortez and his comrades, who arrived in the lands of the Aztecs, were delighted with the level of architectural projects and buildings. Floating villages, houses erected on stilts, majestic temples, monumental buildings with lush roof gardens. Settlements supplied with running water with a developed urban infrastructure. Hairdressers, pharmacies, inns, taverns - all this was present in the settlement and spoke of a high level of development of civilization. On the basis of their writing, the Aztecs created a mature literature, mainly represented by religious and historical prose. Epic stories told about the origins of the Indians, the wanderings of their ancestors, wars and floods. Well, there were costs in carrying out the cult, who denies, they killed, yes, but certainly not in tens of thousands, and then the only people who won a victory over the Aztecs - the Purepecha - were the main manufacturer of copper axes. So this people, too, did not differ in bloodthirstiness. And then, scientists agreed that the scope of sacrifices among the Aztecs was unmatched in all of America. By the way, not only people, but also animals were sacrificed. Sacrifice, including people, was in due time and during the formation of European peoples. And last, about the culture of the same Aztecs, we would have learned more if the "cultured" Spaniards would not have burned their books.
    1. VLR
      +5
      5 August 2021 09: 49
      The pre-Hispanic civilization of Mexico (Aztec Empire - Tenochka Empire) was brutal beyond improbability. The "Flower Wars" were practiced - only to capture prisoners for sacrifices, since the Aztecs believed that without human blood, the Sun and the Moon would fall to Earth. Moreover, they even attacked the tribes that had expressed submissiveness. Aztec chronicles claim that during the accession to the throne of the Tlatoani (ruler) of Auisotl in 1487, 80 captives were sacrificed to the god Huitzilopochtli. So the hands of the Aztec priests did not get tired. And if they got tired, they didn't show it.
      In the tribes subordinate to the Aztecs, uprisings broke out every now and then, which were suppressed with inhuman cruelty. On the side of Cortes were the Totonac tribes from the city of Sempoala and the Tlaskalans. In his army there were: about 300 Spaniards, 1300 Totonacs and 10 Tlaxcalans.
      1. +2
        5 August 2021 10: 37
        80 400 prisoners were sacrificed
        such a number of prisoners is like the Persian army of 600 thousand at Justin in the battle of Marathon. Human sacrifices were made, there is no doubt, but not such numbers. The Tlaxcalans were not conquered by the Aztecs, there were constant wars between them, the purpose of which was to capture captives for sacrifice to the gods. They were not better than the Aztecs in this regard. And then, "and who does not drink? Name it!" bloody sacrifice, they strangled several babies and roosters, drowning them in the waters of Istria. " What is the difference? Some sacrificed several thousand, others several hundred, and the first more bloodthirsty than the second?
        1. +2
          5 August 2021 11: 52
          there were constant wars between them .. missed.
      2. +5
        5 August 2021 11: 07
        Add.
        The Aztecs had a complex pantheon of gods, consisting of hundreds, and according to some sources, of thousands of gods, responsible for everything. But the Aztecs believed that the gods needed to feed on blood. One way to feed the gods was through bloodletting. Why did people make incisions on their faces. And this was not a gesture of respect, people were obliged to donate their blood to the gods! At the same time, an important way by which the Aztecs fed their gods was not just the killing of enemy soldiers, but ritual murder. Consequently, capturing enemies alive was of paramount importance. They were needed for sacrifices!
        The death of the enemy on the battlefield was explained by the clumsiness, ineptitude of the warrior, who was obliged to capture the enemy alive in order to deliver him to the capital of Tenochtitlan for sacrifice.
        Capturing the enemy alive is a difficult task, it was the measure of a warrior's skill, determining his career growth and the degree of authority. To become a Jaguar Warrior or an Eagle Warrior, you had to capture four enemies alive. And so that many thousands of sacrifices took place at the right time, the Aztec tribes continuously waged wars among themselves.
        And it's really funny that such wars for getting trophies in the form of people for subsequent sacrifice in the capital of the empire had a cute name - Floral. Somehow I immediately remember "Dunno in the Flower City".
        1. +2
          5 August 2021 12: 00
          The Tlaxcalans, they fought similar wars with the Aztecs, for the extraction of captives, they also blew blood, brought human sacrifices. Their religion was not yet developed, they had not yet come to monotheism. At the time of the arrival of the conquistadors, they did not have their own Akhenaten, Jesus, Mohammed
      3. +1
        6 August 2021 20: 27
        The suppression of the uprisings could well have been for economic reasons - these are the same agricultural civ-s, like the Spartan, famous for its helots.
        Another thing is that the same economy prevented everyone there from mowing down to 80 thousand at zero - people do not multiply so quickly to replenish and these empires have existed for centuries. Therefore, with the consecration and approval of the priests, in a nodular letter they could carry out a "sacred operation of multiplication with replacement", reckoning for people cattle, fruits, cereals and other rabbits.

        I will add a little - today's Spain also has the most preserved and non-public class of the upper aristocracy, much more complete than the English one. And, as I understand it, in those days, formally Christian aristocrats also practiced harems.
  14. +9
    5 August 2021 08: 57
    Jaime Lorente as Sid, 2020 Spanish TV Series
    In chain mail, but without a helmet. It's all the same that without pants, but with a tie. But the viewer can immediately see who the hu is.
    And, I remember, Sid even tied his beard with a rag so that they would not grab.
    Still - in the 16th century there was such a Diego Paredes. He was a hero in the same place as Bayard, but incomparably less famous.
  15. +8
    5 August 2021 09: 00
    The beginning of Sid's story forced him to think again about inertia, about the transfer of consciousness, mentality. How difficult it was to build a state!
    Production technologies have already gone ahead, trade routes between the regions have long been established, business relations and cultural ties are being established, and the primitive tribal consciousness is boiling in the brain, forcing not only to hate neighbors, but to believe that the war of a neighbor against a neighbor with the subsequent robbery of one another is quite a worthy and even respected occupation, a revered way of improving the well-being of one's own subject area.
    It’s the same as if the head of my Moscow region decided that they didn’t give enough funds from the federal budget to the regional budget, and called on the regional military garrison to go to war in the neighboring area in order to take trophies.
    1. +5
      5 August 2021 09: 49
      "The head of my suburban area."
      Comrade Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
      It's scary, scary to live today!
      Even in history, we reluctantly "go" into today! What is this? And this is that "being determines consciousness."
      1. +6
        5 August 2021 10: 05
        Good morning, Seryozha!)))
        I don't promise you a good day, practice shows that a bright, sunny morning by noon turns into an unpleasant cloudy day, and that, in turn, ends in rain in the evening.
        And a pleasant circumstance. You have finally lost your revolutionary fervor. It would be nice if this happened to Kostya. There is nothing to put life on the altar of a revolution that does not exist. One journalist set herself on fire, so what? Does anyone remember?
        The times of Sid, when justice was established by fire and sword, in a quarrel with one another, - such times are over. This is the age of well-trained brainstorming. How to beat the nimble and mean? To do this, they, these optimizers of our life, must be studied. Find the weak point and then the antidote. The main thing is no casualties among the population. But this is no longer a task for our generations, although we are obliged to help with experience.
        That's it, Seryozha wassat )))
        1. +3
          5 August 2021 10: 16
          Stop it! One today. Two tomorrow. And? Here it is a link between generations!
          But a passaran !!!
          1. +4
            5 August 2021 10: 32
            Stop it, my friend! )))
            "But a passaran!" in our era should look different. In any revolution, the population is a consumable, I do not agree with that. Every person is a value. In Sid's time, he was not. What can I say! In the 20th century, he was not! It is not like that now - just a consumable that is shuffled like cards, discarding unnecessary ones - they optimize us, and oil is squeezed out of the rest. How to show that we are valuable?
            This is what we need to think about.
            But anger strikes in the head, sweeping away the arguments of reason, the hand reaches for the Kalashnikov's "sword" or for something else with a firearm, sentencing the owner of the outstretched hand to death with a shot from someone else, and that is how it all ends.
            And the time of creation of secret societies has passed, they have learned to neutralize them.
            Means something else.
            I have not thought about this question.
            1. +3
              5 August 2021 10: 35
              No! Absolutely no! Any revolution is made by individuals! And? Those who have joined it !!! Give a personality !!!!
              1. +1
                5 August 2021 16: 03
                I agree, "give a personality"
            2. +2
              5 August 2021 10: 42
              Don't you believe in young people? Damn! I contradict myself! But there must be a prospect ??? No ??? Sad. Although I do not observe Che Guevard among my entourage. Absolutely. Sad? Yes!
              Hope for us?, We are old!
            3. +2
              5 August 2021 10: 51
              There is only one hope. Controversial? Perhaps. But I will voice it! "Each generation gives birth to at least one personality, which will be followed." Who is she? Is he? This person? Question! Question of questions, no ?!
            4. +2
              5 August 2021 10: 56
              What is worth pondering? OOPS! And here is a topic for the author! The role of secret societies in the history of states.
            5. +3
              5 August 2021 11: 43
              And why bother? They should be created by young colonels ... dreaming of becoming marshals! And ...? Thinking about the greatness of the Motherland.
        2. +1
          5 August 2021 10: 22
          We can ... survive. Draw conclusions? For the future? Problem! We are very fond of .... slogans.
        3. +2
          5 August 2021 15: 58
          "turns into an incomprehensible cloudy day" Lyudmila Yakovlevna, if you like us dream of a cloudy day. The heat has already taken hold. Yesterday I hardly found a fan for 5. The seller said: in the spring they took fans for 000-1,5, and now they are raking it out in the price category of 2000-3,500
    2. +5
      5 August 2021 10: 20
      And when Troitsk and its environs were cut to Moscow, both heads agreed in unison. And on the air, everyone promised happiness.

      And the boundaries are flexible.
      1. +5
        5 August 2021 10: 31
        "You can't choke this song, you can't kill ..."
        But passaran, amigo!
        1. +5
          5 August 2021 10: 45
          All that remains is to defend your trench.

          “I had a customs office - there were smugglers” (c).
          1. +4
            5 August 2021 10: 58
            "So it's a shame for the state!"
            And you can't say better! Only .... we are old!
            And? Heroes are ... in memory.
            1. +2
              5 August 2021 15: 00
              There are also young people. And it's not easier for them.
          2. +5
            5 August 2021 13: 36
            All that remains is to defend your trench.


            And it is not known what will come out. laughing



            Hello, Sergey! drinks
            1. +3
              5 August 2021 15: 01
              Hi Constantine!

              You can't escape fate.
              1. +5
                5 August 2021 15: 46
                Sometimes she can laugh. smile
                1. +3
                  5 August 2021 16: 26
                  Are these the same heroes? While they were sitting in the trench, autumn had come.
                  1. +2
                    5 August 2021 17: 16
                    This is a Chinese herb, it is always yellow. request
                    1. +3
                      5 August 2021 17: 23
                      Ephedra is called pinyin - "yellow hemp".
                      But since 2004, its cultivation has been prohibited in our country.
                      1. +2
                        5 August 2021 17: 58
                        So these are not our soldiers, Belgian rifle and machine gun, Italian submachine gun, one word - NATO. laughing
                      2. +3
                        5 August 2021 18: 10
                        Then it's not a pity.

                        If the terrain is also determined in this way, all that remains is to take off your hat.
                      3. +3
                        5 August 2021 18: 33
                        You can partially.
                      4. +1
                        5 August 2021 18: 40
                        Judging by the eyes: did not expect.
                      5. +1
                        5 August 2021 19: 02
                        "Here the bullet flew, and yeah ..." (c)
                      6. +1
                        5 August 2021 19: 06
                        "It's a pity for the saber and the buck horse" (c).
                      7. +2
                        5 August 2021 19: 12
                        And I myself, happily, went to bed, on my feet for more than a day. Everything. Ready!
                        And Shpakovsky laid out the tanks, but I pass.
        2. +4
          5 August 2021 11: 06
          Seryozha, come, I'll give up the Aurora for a while! Only, please, not in St. Petersburg, he already had enough ...
          1. +1
            5 August 2021 11: 15
            How ??? !!! "Aurora" is not that ???? Like a mausoleum, no? Omission! The memory is still .... about the revolution. laughing
            Eh! The Putin Sabians missed, and yours too ... slept! I thought it was probably a Russo-Japanese war! And that's it! laughing
            1. +4
              5 August 2021 11: 34
              "Aurora" is listed on the balance of the Navy, the Ministry of Defense is extremely reluctant to part with real estate (the example of "New Holland" is indicative), this is not a mausoleum for you.
              1. 0
                5 August 2021 11: 52
                I’ll add some kind of mausoleum! laughing And the devil! Enemies of the Communists! And their enemies! The Tatra did not wake up, I wonder? That's my firm opinion, if the Union collapsed, it is the fault of such stubborn, stubborn, stupid! Not capable of changes, allowing development!
                .
          2. +6
            5 August 2021 11: 28
            I was with you, in St. Petersburg. In the 86th, it seems. Trio. Ya. One unrecognized artist, Sashka Fomichev / worked in DK ZIL, like me / and his .... well, like a nature, a model, a feminine. In short, three of us! How I ended up with them, I don’t remember. The month of May. It’s cold. With a hangover. Nevsky. Some side street. We took it. With difficulty. We fix our health, all three of us. And here!

            - Guys, are you from Moscow?
            - Well, how did you find out?
            Govorok prompts. Pour, eh? Petersburg.
            Petrograd bum!
            1. +4
              5 August 2021 13: 52
              Give a pour to my nephew, he will stop biting right away. laughing drinks
          3. +2
            5 August 2021 11: 37
            "What are you dreaming about, cruiser * Aurora * ?? laughing
            Guys, all the events in our country come from you. Start, huh? Hyperbole, exaggeration, not an appeal to extremism, just an opinion. winkLike ... an opinion.
            1. +4
              5 August 2021 11: 56
              You still remember Rurik! laughing
              1. +2
                5 August 2021 12: 14
                Yes! I'm not some ... Asian Russian! A descendant of the free Slavs! Rurik, we are! And we live .... in the wards !!!! wink
                1. +7
                  5 August 2021 12: 29
                  And we live .... in the wards !!!!
                  Number six? wassat
                  1. +3
                    5 August 2021 13: 39
                    Fu, it's a sin to laugh at a good person. And he himself, you might think ... laughing
                    1. +4
                      5 August 2021 13: 52
                      "In our madhouse,
                      Open door day! "(C)
                      1. +4
                        5 August 2021 13: 54
                        So it’s in yours, but we don’t let you out without a muzzle. laughing
                      2. +4
                        5 August 2021 13: 56
                        In ours, they are usually not allowed in, for the last year and a half.
                      3. +6
                        5 August 2021 14: 07
                        So you have "the head physician Margulis banned the TV" laughing
                      4. +3
                        5 August 2021 14: 32
                        No dirty innuendo! Everyone knows that Margulis is a rock musician!
                      5. +4
                        5 August 2021 15: 52
                        Argue with Vladimir Semyonich. laughing

                        "There he is, a snake, looming in the window -
                        Behind the plug hides,
                        Gave a sign to someone - it means
                        The paramedic will pull out the wires. "(C)

                    2. +2
                      5 August 2021 15: 39
                      "And you yourself can think of .." from the counts?
                      1. +3
                        5 August 2021 17: 30
                        Slav, the fact that I'm not from * graffiti *. One hundred percent! But! I studied in the Soviet school. And then I tried to learn something. But .... Anarchism, my friend!
                      2. +1
                        5 August 2021 19: 17
                        Sergei, I also studied in a Soviet school and not a count, but according to family tradition, from a minor nobility. From somewhere in Mazovia. Like Bushkovsky Mazur.
                        Not an anarchist. Here we disagree: you and the Anarchists, but no
                  2. +3
                    5 August 2021 15: 51
                    That's right, my friend! It's a sin for you !!!! And I almost got burned! am
            2. +5
              5 August 2021 13: 45
              Hold on, Seryoga, ours are abeam! soldier drinks
          4. +1
            5 August 2021 12: 30
            According to Novikov-Priboi, Admiral Zinovy ​​Rozhestvensky, swearing on the bridge, called the 1st rank armored cruiser "Aurora" only as "a prostitute":

            "- Where are you?

            Symbolic prophecy. laughing
            1. +1
              5 August 2021 15: 47
              Perhaps it is true: Rozhdestvensky was a peculiar person.
              Although, Novikov-Priboy is not the most reliable source.
            2. +1
              5 August 2021 15: 57
              Some denier did not agree with you! It happens! Anonymous, sir!
              1. +2
                5 August 2021 15: 59
                And masturbators are always sneaking around in the corners. laughing
            3. +1
              5 August 2021 18: 40
              In general, the admiral was not so wrong. According to Novikov-Priboi ...
              1. +1
                5 August 2021 19: 04
                As he looked into the water ... standing on the bridge.
                1. +1
                  5 August 2021 19: 10
                  He was lucky to have died earlier.
                  1. +1
                    5 August 2021 19: 13
                    "If the bride leaves for another,
                    It is unknown who was lucky "(c) request
                    1. +1
                      5 August 2021 19: 19
                      Hmm, Nepenin was less fortunate ... However, he himself is to blame.
                      1. +1
                        6 August 2021 10: 27
                        it's his own fault.

                        "You are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat ..." (c)
                        The drunken sailor, who was enraged with impunity, killed everyone in a row. Earlier it was necessary to shoot, earlier.
  16. +6
    5 August 2021 09: 18
    The "Song of Side" in Russian translation is a huge poem, set out on one hundred and fifty-two pages (152), and this is how it ends (I am not giving the last page in full, but only the text that summarizes Sid's deeds.

    Now their husbands are better than before.
    Born in the good hour became known everywhere.
    His children reign in Aragon with Navarre.
    Spanish monarchs - Sidovo seed.
    They are proud of their glorious ancestor.
    My Sid parted with this mortal world
    On Trinity day, heaven forgive him!
    May God grant the same to all of us sinners.
    This is what Sid did for the feat.
    On this our story came to an end.
    Amen! May the one who wrote be worthy of paradise.

    Written in May by Pedro Abbot
    In the year one thousand three hundred and forty-fifth.
    Who has read the book, let him put the wine,
    And if there is no money, pawn the dress.

  17. +5
    5 August 2021 09: 49
    Not a fig to yourself UNKNOWN, one 1961 film with such a great selection of actors is what it's worth

    And now the series has also been released in 2020.
    1. +1
      5 August 2021 14: 10
      Cool he dealt with them
  18. +5
    5 August 2021 10: 07
    The valiant knight Roland, too, whatever one may say, had a "fighting" relation to the Spanish Moors. If I am not mistaken, in the legend he saved the king at the cost of his own life, with a detachment he covered the passage in the mountains of the returning army of Charlemagne.
    For a very long time I read the stories of Washington Irving, incl. a series of short stories and short stories "The Alhambra (or Legends of the Alhambra), if I am not mistaken, there was one story about a hero whose prototype was Sid Campeador."
    Washington Irving, traveling and serving in the US government in the first quarter of the 19th century. lived in Spain, became interested in the period of the Reconquista, eventually wrote a series of short stories, more with a bias in fantasy and legend.
    Relatively recently, a cycle of historical films (BBC) on the history of Spain was filmed.
    1. VLR
      +5
      5 August 2021 10: 11
      We will also talk about "Songs of Roland" and what actually happened there. I didn't intend to, but related topics, so I had to work with this material. In my opinion, it turns out no less interesting than here - about Side.
      1. +5
        5 August 2021 10: 17
        In Roland, as they say, a romantic image was formed (reflected), which they wanted to see a knight, noble and loyal to the king until his death. Sometimes, it is thought that PR has existed since the ancient times of Sumer and Egypt (Early Kingdom) ...
        We are waiting ... We will "see" ... Yes
  19. +3
    5 August 2021 11: 44
    It should be noted the uniqueness of the political situation of that time, the result of which was the emergence of "Song of the Side", as well as its relevance as a propaganda project.

    In the XNUMXth century, as a result of the struggle between León and Castile, Castile managed to gain political independence. The laws and orders of the Castilians changed significantly. This especially affected the knights. Now a knight was considered one who went on a campaign against the Moors on horseback, despite the fact that he was of low origin. With the coming to power of Alphonse VI, a supporter of Leonov's ideas, anti-democratic tendencies gained momentum. French knights and clergy flooded into Castile. The knights behind the mask of helping the Spaniards in the fight against the Moors seized the best allotments, and the clergy, under the pretext of building a church on the lands reclaimed from the Moors, took the richest parishes for themselves. Both those and others oppressed the local population, and also used them for their own purposes. All this led to uprisings, and the confidence of the interventionists was undermined. It was these events that formed the basis for the themes of the Spanish epic, which include:

    1) Fight against the Moors as the return of their native land;
    2) The strife of the feudal lords as evil and treason to the motherland;
    3) Achievement of the freedom of Castile as a symbol of victory over the Moors and the desire to unite all of Spain.

    It is worth noting that the Spanish epic is similar to the French, which is also characterized by short episodic songs, oral unformed legends and a sense of the unity of the nation.


    I don't think you could say better!
  20. +2
    5 August 2021 13: 43
    So the nobility of our hero is greatly exaggerated. He was an Infançon, but was not part of the elite of the Castilian kingdom. He achieved success and high position thanks to his personal abilities and courage.

    This is just one of the versions of the origin of El Cid, belonging to the Spanish historian Ramon Pidal, a representative of the "generation of the 98s", people with rather peculiar views.
    There are more modern versions of the origin belonging to no less authoritative historians, in particular, Margarita Torres, according to which El Cid is a representative of an ancient noble family.
    1. +3
      5 August 2021 14: 04
      Vic. Nick, greetings. I think Valery is also familiar with the Torres version, but if you mention this version, you will have to rewrite half of the work
      1. +5
        5 August 2021 14: 26
        You don't need to rewrite anything. Just add one paragraph mentioning the alternate version.
        Judging by the minuses, the lemmings have already dirtied the "History" section with their presence.
        1. +2
          5 August 2021 15: 34
          Vic. Nick, lemmings migrate, when the food supply in News or Opinions shrinks, they migrate. Fortunately, their "fathers-breadwinners" are here: Samsonovs, Apukhtin, Kharluzhny
        2. +6
          5 August 2021 16: 15
          Quote: Undecim
          lemmings have already dirtied their presence and the section "History"

          Well, what do you swear at them, look how cute they are: hi
          1. +5
            5 August 2021 16: 20
            This is for those who have not seen how they migrate. Was a witness twice. An eerie sight!
            1. +2
              5 August 2021 16: 24
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              This is for those who have not seen how they migrate. Was a witness twice. An eerie sight!

              Honestly: I haven't seen it. Is it so awful? hi
              1. +4
                5 August 2021 16: 29
                In some places they run "like a living carpet". They will die in hundreds, but they run. Cats shy away, dogs howl, women screech.
                Sergei! hi
                1. +2
                  5 August 2021 16: 36
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  They will die in hundreds, but they run. Cats shy away, dogs howl, women screech.

                  Apocalypse now!
                  Yes, the power of nature, but you are right: it is better not to look at it. hi
            2. +1
              5 August 2021 20: 15
              I once saw the flight of locusts .. That was a terrible sight: the sun was not visible. My late grandmother used to say, "Schaub the war did not happen." I remembered in childhood: the locust invasion before the GW, I lost my parents, then. And in 1941 locusts and war
    2. VLR
      +5
      5 August 2021 14: 08
      Here, and Pidal is not needed: "Song of the Side", created in the 40s. The XNUMXth century directly states that the Counts of Rodrigo Diaz were no match. And the wife's father considered his daughter's marriage to be a misalliance, and the Infants of Carrion said that Sid's daughters were only suitable for them as concubines. It can be argued that in the XNUMXth century El Cid was not considered a high-born.
      1. +3
        5 August 2021 14: 24
        Here and Pidal is not needed: "Song of the Side", created in the 40s. XII century directly states that Counts Rodrigo Diaz was no match.

        To begin with, the original is unknown to us. The oldest copy is from the XNUMXth century. This is the first thing. And the second - at present, historians dealing with this issue believe that in terms of the origin of caballero castellano Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar el Campeador El Cantar de mio Cid does not correspond to reality.
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          +4
          5 August 2021 14: 32
          Well, we have a lot of historians who think they know everything much better than medieval authors. The most striking example is the anti-Normanists, who "refute" the author of the Tale of Bygone Years, who brazenly claims that the Varangians were of Scandinavian origin.
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            5 August 2021 14: 39
            This is not with "us", this is with "them", with the Spaniards. For them, he is a significant historical figure.
        2. +1
          5 August 2021 15: 03
          "does not correspond to realities" Viktor Nikolaevich, do you want to say that El Sid is equal to kings?
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            5 August 2021 15: 09
            One of his daughters became the mother of the king.
            1. +1
              5 August 2021 16: 31
              And then "accidentally" the first husband hurt. The girls were outraged: to tie and throw out outside the city. Each fantasized: how to "thank".
              1. 0
                5 August 2021 16: 50
                You're not trying to think, are you? Before you write a comment with the girls? What the hell is healthcare?!?!?! am
                Go-work !!! I'm on vacation !!!!
                1. +1
                  5 August 2021 20: 32
                  Sergei, be careful not to take offense at you. They are vengeful like cats.
                  In 1987 we had a case: one went through and took the girl by force. She did not declare, and after 1,5 years. Somewhere he was treated to klofelinchik and .... Something was deleted, and he had a registration the next day
                2. +2
                  5 August 2021 20: 45
                  By the way, I am also formally on vacation, but in reality I am working. Unlike others, I cannot afford to go on vacation
                  1. -1
                    6 August 2021 09: 05
                    Well, get to work!

                    With girls! laughing
              2. 0
                5 August 2021 17: 53
                Vera! Are you really stupid ??.
                1. +2
                  5 August 2021 18: 32
                  Sergei! You will be ashamed tomorrow.
                  1. +2
                    5 August 2021 20: 34
                    , Anton! Yes! But this ???? With girls ?????? Right! Not funny and ...
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                      5 August 2021 20: 44
                      Trust me, it will be a shame.
                  2. 0
                    5 August 2021 20: 44
                    Yes! Perhaps! But when will it be ashamed to write to this person? And try to show something?
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                      5 August 2021 20: 52
                      Sergei, you are not the second, after me, recognized Vera as an equal interlocutor, now you give up your words? Moreover, you publicly insulted a woman, do you think this is normal?
                      1. 0
                        5 August 2021 21: 14
                        How offended?
                      2. +1
                        5 August 2021 21: 26
                        Frank rudeness addressed to her. Didn't notice?
                      3. 0
                        6 August 2021 15: 05
                        Is it really rudeness? Read, learn, learn new things! No! But to climb with your girls? Why? Teach life? Whom? Why?
                      4. -1
                        6 August 2021 15: 13
                        Just read the comments of this person. And her "girls". And think. Why? hi I'm certainly not a VikNik, but I have my own opinion!
                      5. +3
                        6 August 2021 21: 02
                        ... but I have my own opinion!


                        "The trouble is with these intellectuals, there is zero sense from them, but everyone has their own opinion." (with)

                        Seryoga, do not judge and you will not be judged, but in general, see below.

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                        7 August 2021 13: 20
                        I am not an intellectual, I have a profession! On the whole, I agree! Got to frolic. Too much So I have something to work on. I made a conclusion! hi
                      7. 0
                        7 August 2021 13: 39
                        Well, okay, we're friends. smile drinks
                      8. +2
                        6 August 2021 15: 19
                        The truth can be presented in different ways.
                        And I didn’t see people coming to you with lectures. If you want to discuss a topic, let's call WhatsApp in the evening. In ten minutes I have to fill the floor with a leveler. Sorry.
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                        6 August 2021 16: 14
                        Fill in amigo! And what kind of company? The manufacturer? I had a terrible allergen to, damn it, I don’t remember! Such gray barrels!
                      10. +1
                        6 August 2021 17: 43
                        This is not a finishing polymer, but just a self-leveling compound, Vetonit 3100
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                        7 August 2021 12: 52
                        Anton! Hi! I'll go to work, let me know. I just don't remember the name, but! Flooded floors. Soil-allergy! Top coat! Horror! Face muzzle-like after a fight with Tyson !!!!! True!
                        Yes! I will add! On that day, as a sin I shaved, and .... a drop hit my face! In the process.
                      12. +2
                        7 August 2021 12: 56
                        OK, deal good
                      13. +1
                        7 August 2021 13: 14
                        The most interesting thing! I had a carpenter, a good man. On a pension. But after working with these floors / and what to do, there is simply no one to work !!!!! / - he abruptly quit!
                      14. +1
                        7 August 2021 13: 32
                        In general, I probably understand what this is about ... For what purpose was the work carried out?
                2. +1
                  5 August 2021 20: 40
                  Yes, to please you.
                  Р
                  S.
                  I'm from the last films, "Centipede" I admit a little
                  1. -1
                    5 August 2021 21: 22
                    Actually, die, eh! Zhenshinda? When a man says, no?
                  2. -1
                    6 August 2021 16: 05
                    From you, dear lady! I had a fight with a good man! Women !!!!! Is this ... a diagnosis? It definitely applies to you! Yes, s !!!
              3. 0
                5 August 2021 20: 46
                Damn! Yes, you think !!!! And girls! ;; Got it !!
              4. -1
                6 August 2021 16: 09
                Your fantasies. Keep to yourself, and ... with the "girls *!
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    5 August 2021 13: 55
    Valery, however, you like to tease: did you mention the Dutch Protestants or Ulenspiegel, but tell about them?
    You have actually listed several interesting topics. And if you tell us in more detail in the future, it will be great
  22. +1
    5 August 2021 14: 54
    Colleagues, Valery, good afternoon. Thank you very much for the story.
    I once came across a passage and I remembered: "El Sid", I thought it was a literary character. Zulka, I watched a 1961 painting in Utah.
  23. +1
    5 August 2021 15: 20
    Valery, Tommaso Torquemada was a clever fanatic, and his followers were not distinguished by their intelligence and made up for their lack of intelligence with stupid fanaticism.
    Stupid fanatics are capable of FAILURE EVERYTHING.
    1. 0
      5 August 2021 16: 08
      Which one of you? What is smart? And what is dumb? Fanatic, let's at least think before we write! laughing
  24. 0
    5 August 2021 16: 22
    Comrade, Paganel, when he was learning Spanish and confused Spanish with Portuguese. Does anyone remember which piece he confused with?
    1. +3
      5 August 2021 16: 29
      Camões "Lusiada".
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        5 August 2021 19: 23
        It is possible that he
    2. +1
      5 August 2021 16: 37
      Svyatoslav! This is Paganel! By the way, "Fifteen-year-old captain", and this! This is a whole harem !!!! I'm just horrified that they write to patients !!!!
      1. 0
        5 August 2021 19: 54
        Sergei, you're wrong: "Fifteen-year-old captain" is Benedict there. Do you remember when the negro brought him a spider: he wanted to call him by his own name - "Benedict six-legged"?
        I love the film of the same name since childhood, but I did not like the book.
        Actually, with Jules Verne, I only liked: "Children of Captain Grant", and everyone liked the film adaptations. "Captain" and the old film adaptation: "Treasure Island" I recently revisited.
        They write in such a way that you and I don't want to get sick. Murashko paid them, so they are weird
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          6 August 2021 15: 07
          Slav, you're right, I was wrong! hi
          1. +1
            7 August 2021 07: 30
            However, you remember many other things well
  25. 0
    5 August 2021 19: 39
    Recently, Arturo Perez-Reverte's book "El-Sid, or the Knight without a King" has been published.
  26. +1
    6 August 2021 17: 34
    I watched a whole program about him on the channel "365 days". A colorful character, and indeed in Spain this period and before the 14th century there are so many events! It was striking how the separate Arab states in Spain, which had disintegrated into a bunch of caliphates, were often stronger friends with Christians than with other co-religionists.
  27. 0
    22 October 2021 17: 44
    The classic translation of Sid's nickname is Warmaster! The modern ones are somewhat damaging ... smile