Autumn escalation: the United States prepares for parliamentary elections in Russia

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Intervention policy


History the appearance of the American hand in the affairs of sovereign Russia took shape in the mid-90s. In his National Security Strategy, President Clinton directly called the democratization of the Russian Federation the sphere of interests of his country. If you look at this from the side of the owner of the White House, you can understand him - Moscow has the second most powerful nuclear potential on the planet.

The well-being of American citizens and confidence in the future directly depend on whether the US government controls the Russian nuclear triad or not. By the end of the 90s, the congressmen declared the internal affairs of Russia to be the sphere of national interests and noted that they were ready to use political, military, economic and information levers of influence for control.

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In 1996, the United States faced a real threat of Russia's return to its Soviet past. Before the presidential elections, Gennady Zyuganov's rating was approaching 60%, and while maintaining the existing status quo, Yeltsin was not re-elected for a second term. The Sovietization of Russia was not at all profitable for the Americans, since it returned the countries to the days of the Cold War with unpredictable consequences.



The revival of the USSR, at least within the borders of Russia, threatened Washington with considerable material losses, primarily for the next rearmament and reduction of Russian sales markets. That is why political consultants R. Drensner, J. Gordon and D. Showmate flew to Moscow, among others. First of all, they held negotiations with the regional elites, guaranteeing them, in case of Yeltsin's support, a warm attitude from Moscow. And it worked! As the Doctor of Political Sciences, Professor of Moscow State University AV Manoilo writes in his report "Invasion", by June 1996, out of 89 heads of regions, 49 supported the incumbent president. And only four months earlier there were only 22 people loyal to Yeltsin.

The second leverage in the 1996 elections was the brainwashing of ordinary voters. The main thing in unscrupulous propaganda is not to appeal to critical thinking, but to put pressure on the most basic fears. This is how the slogans “Vote or lose” and “Buy food for the last time” appeared, hinting at the return of the troubled times of the late 80s and the risk of civil war in the country. The fact that Yeltsin with his mediocre rule actually unleashed a civil war in the North Caucasus, overseas political strategists kept silent.

Professor Manoilo also mentions opinion leaders who set the public in the right direction for the United States. So, the actress Natalya Selezneva from the screen promoted:

“I remember coupons for sausage and soap and I don’t want that for my children and grandchildren.”

The effect of the crowd and involvement in a common cause was realized in concerts organized by Yeltsin's campaign headquarters. Of course, under the strict guidance of overseas puppeteers.

Large news agencies such as CNN and The Washington Post have actively joined the program to discredit Gennady Zyuganov. In the event of his victory, the Americans predicted for Russia a return to deficit, the oppression of freedoms and the flourishing of totalitarianism. The Americans had to spend money. From the IMF exactly 10,2 billion dollars came to the elections for payments to state employees.

In general, the United States not only openly interfered in the sovereign processes of Russia, but also treated citizens as second-class people. The country has many months of debts to state employees, rampant crime, a bloody war in Chechnya, a destroyed army and the threat of another "parade of sovereignties". But the US administration is quite satisfied with these obvious failures, and they do not shun large-scale propaganda to promote Yeltsin.

Moscow could not cope with governing the country without external funding, but ordinary people, as if ignorant, were assured that if Zyuganov was elected, it would be even worse.

First failures


Everything turned upside down in 2000 with the appearance on the political arena of Vladimir Putin. Here, several unsuccessful puzzles have formed for the American administration at once.

Firstly, Yeltsin's resignation was not particularly expected, and secondly, the United States itself entered the phase of the 2000 election race. After Putin began to resolve the Chechen issue, an active anti-government propaganda was launched in Washington. It was simple - at that time, there were a bunch of news agencies and various foundations affiliated with the United States working in the country. It was then that overseas political strategists tested a new tool for Russians - the Internet. The World Wide Web seemed to be an excellent lever of influence on the expression of the will of the electorate. We can say with confidence that the Russian political training ground has become a kind of training ground for the upcoming "color revolutions" around the world.

In 2004, it didn’t bring anything fundamentally new to the manuals of the guardians of world “democracy”. The tone towards Putin was still negative, and this was broadcasted extensively on the Internet and controlled media. Attempts to pressure and bribe officials in Moscow and in the regions have been added. By 2008, Washington apparently despaired of finding a common language with the political elites in the country and switched to total discrediting of the entire government.

Pseudo-independent international agencies such as Freedom House and Transparence International have consistently lowered Russia's rating in the world freedom index. Russians have ceased to be treated as second-class people, they have ceased to appeal to the basic instincts of hunger and material well-being. Making citizens feel guilty and ashamed for their country has become the main message from the United States.


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By 2012, the Americans were on the real offensive. The internal systemic and non-systemic opposition provided active assistance in this. Nemtsov, Navalny, Yashin, Kasparov became real guides of "democratic" values ​​from the White House. Now they have become opinion leaders for young people and an active electorate. The massive proliferation of smartphones, social networks and instant messengers made it possible to spread information at lightning speed.

The propagandists from the State Department made the main emphasis not on the formation of public opinion before the elections, but on the targeted impact on young people. It was now decided not to re-elect the government, but to overthrow it or force it to leave in an amicable way. All controlled news agencies - CNN, BBC, Voice of America and Radio Liberty worked for this purpose. In the minds of citizens, the opinion began to be raised that the local flaky polyclinic and the school that was not painted on time was a direct consequence of state policy. In the course of subsequent elections, this concept of interference in the internal affairs of Russia only intensified.

Hot Autumn 2021


Given the gradual evolution and tightening of the United States' policy in shaking Russian statehood, large-scale provocations can be expected in the fall.

The White House is unlikely to be able to influence the expression of the will of citizens now, but it is quite capable of diverting attention. At the same time, the instrument of influence through the controlled media is practically blocked - everyone who is in solidarity with Washington has already received the coveted status of foreign agents. The threat definitely comes from social media, messengers and YouTube video hosting. Russia is now in an unenviable situation - most of the servers are located abroad. There is information that from June 15 to July 15, large-scale exercises were held in the country to disconnect the Runet from the World Wide Web.

They say they were successful. Incidentally, this is a serious tool in the fight against foreign propaganda. Many giants of the IT industry will think seven times before imposing biased content on Russian users. In the event of a physical disconnection of Runet from the external network, several tens of millions of consumers of advertising and paid content will leave the business plans. Some might say that a little, given the global traffic. But for Russian companies this will be a real gift, they will occupy the vacant niche and, in the event of a reverse connection, they will not return.


Source: perunica.ru

The State Department also works according to the old scheme, providing financial support to the notorious FBK and the "Headquarters of Protest Actions".

The focus of attention will be on alleged and actual violations in the elections, which should become triggers of mass protests in the country. In order to compromise the parliamentary elections, the lists will include candidates who will not pass in advance, in the hope that they will be removed. The goal has been achieved - the "real democrat" is not allowed into power.

The message will become important - if such chaos is happening now, then what will Putin do in the elections in 2024? Actually, all the upcoming hype is aimed precisely at discrediting the presidential elections.

The danger is that the State Department is carefully preparing for the Russian elections and, apparently, is 100% ready to work out the "Fas!" from Biden. The Americans have no external irritants, except for the coronavirus - the troops have been withdrawn from Afghanistan, and everything allows them to concentrate on Russia. Provocations on the border of the country are not ruled out, to which Moscow will have to react militarily.
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  1. -17
    2 August 2021 04: 27
    ***
    Chubais is to blame for everything ...
    ***
    1. +16
      2 August 2021 06: 35
      Yeltsin's resignation was not particularly expected,
      the author is seen by an employee of the State Department. he is told there what they are waiting for, and what they themselves are organizing.
      As for Putin and his United Russia. compare what was done from 1918 to 1939 and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021. But then Soviet Russia had much more enemies.
      1. +12
        2 August 2021 06: 51
        - First of all, they held negotiations with regional elites,
        Since then, the Russian "elite" has ceased to be Russian.
        Thousands of years have passed. And the local authorities continue to consider themselves "appanage princes".
        They are worried about some changes in the legislation before the elections to the State Duma, in particular, if they find illegal campaigning, the department will block the resources on which it applies.
        There are fewer and fewer loopholes.
        1. +14
          2 August 2021 07: 04
          Aaaa the State Department is to blame for the fact that prices for everything have skyrocketed and pensions have fallen. Biden dropped the ruble on purpose. This is a US special operation. Well then, everything is clear, United Russia was framed. laughing
          1. +14
            2 August 2021 07: 34
            Against this background, news stories are very noteworthy: Like, 1. Putin's team during Medvedev's presidency until 2012 allegedly fought with his team and criticized in every possible way ... 2. Zhirinovsky said that he had very bad relations with Putin and EDRO.
            It is obvious - an attempt, on the one hand, by a part of the pro-Putin forces to put a good face on a bad game by making provocative throw-ins. On the other hand, an attempt by the systemic opposition to draw out the votes of the United Democratic Republic at the expense of empty and loud statements ...
            In past years, he voted for EDRo and Putin, saw no alternative. But you can't put your mind to who to vote for now. EDRo finally canceled itself, the pro-Putin games with the admission of liberals to the regulation of the economy with endless "inconvenient" reforms - zadolbalo. Prices are rising as in the 90s, salaries are not a dime.
            1. +5
              2 August 2021 08: 43
              For an ordinary citizen, nothing will change for the better. Vote, do not vote, you will still get ... Puck, puck.
              1. -10
                2 August 2021 09: 16
                Quote: bandabas
                For an ordinary citizen, nothing will change for the better.

                What should change for an ordinary person if an ordinary person has not bothered to nominate his ordinary person on the lists of candidates for the Duma?

                Quote: bandabas
                Vote - do not vote you will get it anyway ...

                The lists of candidates have almost been approved. Our choice will consist only in which bourgeois will receive more of its deputies in the Duma, and which - none.

                We choose from what the bourgeoisie will provide us. Who can tell which bourgeois which party promotes (finances), what would it promote its interests through the laws?

                When the elections in Ukraine were going on, we knew this, but what about us - who stands behind whom, who finances which party, which deputy, which oligarch will be motivated by interests?
            2. +5
              2 August 2021 20: 42
              Quote: mojohed2012
              In past years, he voted for EDRo and Putin, saw no alternative. But you can't put your mind to who to vote for now.

              Vote do not vote .. if you still have faith in voting .. even despite the fact that voting can now be infinitely long and in electronic form .. then vote for the Communist Party .. it is clear that there will be no sense .. but at least the vector will be clear ...
          2. +6
            2 August 2021 20: 39
            that prices for everything have skyrocketed and pensions have fallen

            Pensions have not fallen .. they are indexed by three kopecks ... and inflation by 1000 .. but it became very difficult to live before retirement ..
            This is a US special operation.

            I regularly have the feeling that a show is arranged for the layman .. in the form of an enemy of the United States G and the guardian of the Russian people, the tsar .. naked .. The tsar fights with the United States for life and death .. but for some reason the citizens of the Russian Federation are dying out as a result. and the Tsar's friends are getting richer every day .. As it is not logical .. as a result of the battle, the USA should have withdrawn money, real estate and other sweets from the Tsarev's friends .. but for some reason the USA does not do this ..
      2. -20
        2 August 2021 09: 26
        Quote: Gardamir
        ... compare what was done from 1918 to 1939 and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021.

        compare: from 1918 to 1939, from the terrible, hitherto unseen in the history of mankind, famines of 1921-22 and 1932-33, from 9 to 12 million people died - during mass cannibalism / corpse-eating. We were dying of hunger and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Eastmath

        For ONE year 09.37-08.38 shot about 700 fellow citizens, previously exiled a million CHILDREN, millions of uncondemned peasants, and prisoners in the Sov. the camps of 000 were in thirty times more than in concentration camps in Germany.
        Where, in what country did THIS happen? Nowhere and never.

        At the same time, a rapid decline in the birth rate and a wild increase in abortions.

        The top leadership of the country, army, party, according to the decisions of the Supreme Court of the USSR, turned out to be ... traitors to the Motherland, spies of England, the USA and Germany with Poland, etc.

        in 2000-21, no one died of hunger: meat, milk, eggs e3-4-5 times more chicksthan in the blessed 1937, they live twice as long, and they have several times more housing per person. , and a year later: "Death to X!"

        The question is simple: WHO wants to live in the Kuban village // Russian village in 1933? What? Here is the answer.
        1. +9
          2 August 2021 09: 47
          Mr. Olgovich, I understand that you do not know either the imperialist war or the so-called civil war, in which citizens of many countries, Czechoslovakians, Germans, British, French and Japanese participated. The British even sent their baron.
          You wrote about the executions, but you forgot that Stalin ate babies in the morning.
          By the way, about meat and milk, God bless them collective farms, but where are the farmers? And how would you comment on the ever increasing purchases of palm oil?
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 18: 53
            And how would you comment on the ever increasing purchases of palm oil

            Gardamir, tell us about the oil.
            And then your lying colleague (do not think anything bad to yourself), although maybe not a colleague (Ingvar) accuses me that I support this delivery.
            And I have neither ear nor snout laughing .
            What kind of oil, where is it used, why, is it good or bad?
            By the way, it will be bad in sunflower this year. The staff is a sunflower in the European part, I saw it myself when I returned from vacation ...
            1. +2
              2 August 2021 19: 11
              What kind of oil, where is it used, why, is it good or bad?
              I think you all know.
              In April, the import of palm oil and its fractions amounted to 109 thousand tons. Russia has sharply increased purchases of this product, they soared by 58,9 percent compared to April 2020, according to Rosstat materials. Meanwhile, Russians have begun to switch to cheese substitutes due to falling incomes. Cheese products are an inexpensive alternative to cheese (they cost a third less) and can be produced using vegetable fats such as palm oil.
              1. +3
                3 August 2021 07: 06
                Quote: Gardamir
                In April, the import of palm oil and its fractions amounted to 109 thousand tons.

                In 1983 the USSR imported 188 thousand tons of oil palm trees, i.e. firmly climbed on a palm tree
                1. -1
                  3 August 2021 08: 36
                  How then did Russia climb on a palm tree with half the population and imports of a million tons? feel
                  PS There is nothing wrong with palm oil, ordinary vegetable fat.
                  1. +2
                    3 August 2021 09: 02
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    How then did Russia climb on a palm tree with half the population and imports of a million tons?

                    the USSR rapidly climbed the palm tree, already in 1983, having imported almost TWO MILLION tons with a population of only twice as large, which is 324 times largee than 1961.
                    1. -1
                      3 August 2021 09: 39
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      USSR in 1983 imported 188 thousand tons of palm oil

                      Quote: Olgovich
                      USSR, already in 1983, having imported almost TWO MILLION tons

                      wassat
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                      2. 0
                        3 August 2021 09: 58
                        In April 2021, 108,8 thousand tons were imported

                        1) What does this have to do with this:
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        USSR in 1983 imported 188 thousand tons of palm oil

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        USSR, already in 1983, having imported almost TWO MILLION tons

                        wassat
                        You just need to somehow get out now? laughing
                        2) Yeah, that is, you were not able to understand that you are comparing an annual import with a monthly import? belay
                        fool belay lol

                        You deny that Russia has imports of palm oil fractions in 2020 million tons, in 2019 - a million tons. With a ponytail. Are you sure you are ready to continue like this?
                    2. 0
                      3 August 2021 11: 37
                      which is 324 times more

                      By the way, the "source" where did you get it from (and it was not difficult to find one of its hypostases) does not know that FAOSTAT and foreign economic activity have different nomenclature of goods, and therefore he gets the wrong number (and such a misunderstanding of the essence of the questions is the hallmark of your "sources ").
                      Again, not a single thought, everything borrowed.
                      1. -1
                        4 August 2021 08: 45
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        By the way, the "source" where did you get this from (and it was not difficult to find one of its incarnations) does not know that FAOSTAT and FEA have

                        what does it have to do with ... FAOSTAT and foreign economic activity? fool

                        to:

                        talking nonsense again
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        wrong

                        и
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        (This misunderstanding of the essence of the questions is the hallmark of your "sources").

                        и
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Again, not a single thought, everything is borrowed
                        -
                        all evil delirium and nonsense.
                        Exactly
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        ready to continue like this?
                        fool

                        And the speed with which the USSR climbed onto the palm tree, any monkey will envy, yes ...
                      2. -1
                        4 August 2021 08: 59
                        what does it have to do with ... FAOSTAT and foreign economic activity? fool

                        to:

                        Have you decided to keep showing your ignorance?
                        Well, you showed from the collection of the volume of imports of palm oil. AND? What does this have to do with my message that the figure in "324" times is received incorrectly. What do you - do not know, because you just ripped it off from the Internet, not suspecting that your "source" received it incorrectly. Thinking and analyzing is somewhat more difficult than sniffing Internet nonsense. Why did you receive it wrong, it is written to you - FAOSTAT and FEA have different nomenclature of goods.
                        A short excursion into mathematics:
                        188 825 / x = 324
                        This is how 324 turns out. But you forgot to provide X. I suspect because in your "source" it is also not provided in the form of a picture from a collection of foreign trade, but is written in a figure without confirmation wassat tongue
                        And when you figure out what kind of X it is, then you will understand where FAOSTAT and foreign economic activity have to do with it.

                        PS In the picture you have given, the number 84115 is the code for the foreign economic activity nomenclature. So, for an educational program.

                        And the speed with which the USSR climbed onto the palm tree, any monkey will envy, yes ...

                        Children's manipulation. Explain why?
                      3. -2
                        4 August 2021 09: 45
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Well, you showed the volume of palm oil imports from the collection. AND?

                        but the fact that the figure is proven and is correct, as opposed to your stupid statement about its incorrectness.

                        In 1989, already 273 thousand tons of oil were imported.

                        The monkey choked with envy for the conscientious take-off speeds to the palm tree.
                      4. -1
                        4 August 2021 09: 52
                        What figure is proven? 188 thousand tons? Did anyone argue with her? Well, except for yourself:
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        USSR, already in 1983, having imported almost TWO MILLION tons

                        wassat
                        This is what it says to you:
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        figure in "324"times - received incorrectly.

                        Can you confirm it? lol
              2. +2
                3 August 2021 12: 25
                I didn't ask about that.
                Since you are in the subject, I asked
                What kind of oil, where is it used, why, is it good or bad?

                I understood from your comment that it is cheap.
                But this is about nothing cheap actually does not mean bad.
                If this is where the differences end, what is the hype about
            2. +1
              2 August 2021 19: 45
              Quote: bk316
              (Ingvar) accuses me of supporting this import.
              And I have neither ear nor snout

              Well, yes, it's easy to pretend to be an eccentric. laughing I have repeatedly inserted Arkady Mamontov's video about palm oil. This is a serious investigation.
              And I blamed you for this because you are too loving to the current government, and no matter what byaka it comes up with, you either keep silent or justify.
              It is easy to check.
              Quote: bk316
              By the way, it will be bad in sunflower this year
              It will be bad with everything. Because of the heat, you should not wait for the potato harvest in the middle lane, with wheat in the Volga region is also worse than last year. And given the fact that the State Grain Reserve began to be used in the summer, and not in the winter, as usual, there will be problems with this. The other day I bought fodder, corn 20000 per ton, barley at 16000, + 25% compared to last year.
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 10: 25
                I have something to do with the business of selling various goods for the production of homemade sausages, cheese, rolls, smoked meats, fish, various delicacies. Sales are growing. People are increasingly switching to subsistence farming where possible, seeing quality and prices in stores.
              2. +2
                3 August 2021 12: 33
                repeatedly inserted a video of Arkady Mamontov about palm oil.

                Well, a liar (this is me about you), then asking about something is useless.
                I fully trust Gardamir in such matters.
                And until I saw nothing terrible in his answers ...
            3. 0
              2 August 2021 20: 48
              And I am not laughing with an ear or a snout.
              What kind of oil, where is it used, why, is it good or bad?

              Have you tasted butter for a long time? You don’t see any changes .. or has the taste of the present been forgotten? We made "Vamin" tolerable oil .. but every year the percentage of palm oil there is clearly growing .. I worked for food manufacturers for a long time and was always in touch with technologists .. and so, every year, the quality only decreases .. and will fall with such an economy and the "care" of the state for its citizens ..
              Are you buying a melon and watermelon? And there nitrates are 200 times exceeded .. and Rospotrebnadzor does not care about this .. he fights with covid, vaccinates the population ..
              1. +1
                3 August 2021 12: 31
                Have you tasted butter for a long time?

                In the morning, I did not notice any changes, I eat Belarusian, but generally not a fan.
                Are you just saying palm oil is harmful, or is it just a scam?
                Here are melons and watermelons, I love addicted when I started to go to the Volga.
                I always check watermelons for nitrates. Not a single time in 10 years has been exceeded.
                Although seeing how they are raised should be ...
          2. +1
            3 August 2021 07: 03
            Quote: Gardamir
            Mr. Olgovich, I understand that you do not know neither the imperialist war, nor about the so-called civil war, in which citizens of many countries, Czechoslovakians, Germans, British, French, Japanese participated. The British even sent their baron.

            I will remind the "expert" that Russia in WWI is the ONLY country where there was no famine.

            Deadly hunger is the achievement of the VOR and the Thieves and their PERMANENT companion until 1947, as well as the intervention - before the servants of the German occupiers VORs and there was no talk of it

            And yes, the "expert" does not know that thanks to the cap. NEP, by 1928 the production and consumption of food was restored, and the worst famine at that time in the history of mankind in 1932-33 cannot be justified by the legacy of the Civil War unleashed by the Bolsheviks.
            And yes, Stalin said that the harvest of 1932 is NOT worse than 1931: so where did the bread go, why did millions die and your party didn’t say a word about it to its beloved people, cynically calling the dying peasants ... wealthy people?
            Quote: Gardamir
            You wrote about the executions, but you forgot that Stalin ate babies in the morning.

            MILLIONS of children of peasant and repressed peoples were exiled without trial. People's Commissar of the NKVD Tolmachev reported in 1933 that 80% of deceased exiles are CHILDREN... You hear?!
            Quote: Gardamir
            By the way, about meat and milk, God bless them collective farms, but where are the farmers?

            And you Russian peasants, where did you get it, huh? Russian village depopulated with you
            Quote: Gardamir
            And how would you comment on the ever increasing purchases of palm oil?

            Ask the USSR, which from 1961 to 1983 increased the supply of this in 324 times, widely using it in baby food, confectionery, etc.
            1. -2
              3 August 2021 07: 27
              The ONLY country where there was no hunger.
              The first food detachments were not red, but tsarist.
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 08: 05
                Quote: Gardamir
                The first food detachments were not red, but tsarist.

                nonsense. and answer to:
                Deadly hunger is the achievement of the VOR and the Thieves and their PERMANENT companion until 1947, as well as the intervention - before the servants of the German occupiers VORs and there was no talk of it

                And yes, the "expert" does not know that thanks to the cap. NEP, by 1928 the production and consumption of food was restored, and the worst famine at that time in the history of mankind in 1932-33 cannot be justified by the legacy of the Civil War unleashed by the Bolsheviks.
                And yes, Stalin said that the harvest of 1932 is NOT worse than 1931: so where did the bread go, why did millions die and your party didn’t say a word about it to its beloved people, cynically calling the dying peasants ... wealthy people?
                Quote: Gardamir
                You wrote about the executions, but you forgot that Stalin ate babies in the morning.

                MILLIONS of children of peasant and repressed peoples were exiled without trial. People's Commissar of the NKVD Tolmachev reported in 1933 that 80% of the deceased exiles were CHILDREN. You hear?!
                Quote: Gardamir
                By the way, about meat and milk, God bless them collective farms, but where are the farmers?

                And you Russian peasants, where did you get it, huh? Russian village depopulated with you
                Quote: Gardamir
                And how would you comment on the ever increasing purchases of palm oil?

                Ask the USSR, which from 1961 to 1983 increased the supply thereof 324 times, widely using it in baby food, confectionery, etc.
                1. -2
                  3 August 2021 12: 37
                  People's Commissar of the NKVD Tolmachev reported in 1933

                  belay To whom? A bunk neighbor in the barracks?
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2021 09: 14
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    To whom? A bunk neighbor in the barracks?

                    for WHAT he wrote in a letter to the Deputy Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR D.Z. Swan, he was there.
                    From his letter:

                    In the North-Dvinsky District: on 12.IV-30

                    Total died 784
                    Of them CHILDREN 634


                    "Gentlemen! You beasts, gentlemen!"
                    ((c) "Slave of Love")
                    1. -1
                      4 August 2021 09: 30
                      for WHAT he wrote in a letter to the Deputy Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR D.Z. Swan, he was there.

                      belay fool
                      And how will you confirm your words? Well, the fact that he ended up in the camp because of this letter?
                      Why are you writing this to me if I just wrote to you that the message about the report in 1933 year can't be true. Will you deny it?
                      1. -2
                        4 August 2021 09: 55
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And how will you confirm your words? Well, the fact that he ended up in the camp because of this letter?
                        Why are you writing this to me if I just wrote to you that the report about the report in 1933 cannot be true. Will you deny it?

                        I am deeply indifferent to your writings.

                        It is shown that out of the total, and so wild number of deceased uncondemned exiled conscientious citizens, EIGHTY percent were deceased CHILDREN (mainly of younger ages).

                        Do you know WHAT are "children"? No. negative
                      2. -1
                        4 August 2021 10: 16
                        Yes, I know what children are and how they love to manipulate on emotions through appealing to children.
                        If you knew mathematics at least at the school level, you could evaluate the figure you quoted in order to understand that not even in special settlements, but in an ordinary village in the European part of the RSFSR, the number of children who died per year will be more than half of the total number of deaths due to the high infant mortality and high fertility in comparison with mortality of older ages in the period under review.
                        You, as always, tore out only a convenient piece in order to "catch up with the creepiness" on the layman. There it is beautifully written below - the mortality rate of children to the total number of children is 7-8%. To make it easier for you to estimate the mortality rate, I recommend comparing it with the infant mortality rate in the first decade of the century.
                      3. -2
                        4 August 2021 12: 11
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Yes I know what children are

                        no
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        in an ordinary village in the European part of the RSFSR, the number of children who die per year will be more than half of the total number of deaths

                        don't you (lie)
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You, as always, tore out only a convenient piece,

                        ON more:
                        Out of 8.000 children

                        6.007 people fell ill

                        Of which: scarlet fever 199
                        measles 1.154
                        influenza, lung inflammation 4.238
                        diphtheria 21

                        Is there anything human in you at all? :

                        In the North-Dvinsky District: on 12.IV-30

                        Total died 784
                        Of which CHILDREN 634

                        NO.
                      4. -1
                        4 August 2021 12: 56
                        in an ordinary village in the European part of the RSFSR, the number of children who die per year will be more than half of the total number of deaths

                        don't you (lie)

                        What? Breaking the pattern? laughing As Mikhailo Vasilyevich used to say, mathematics must be taught only then, that it puts the mind in order.
                        ON more:

                        What for? Do you think I have not read all these documents? The only difference is that I think about what I read. And what you have brought here "for more" naturally shows your manipulation of several messages earlier, when you ripped out just a convenient piece to show the figure of 80%. And if you take these of yours "for more", then the infant mortality rate is 587/8 = 73 per 1000. I have already answered you:
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        To make it easier for you to estimate the mortality rate, I recommend comparing it with the percentage of infant mortality in the first decade of the century.

                        Here you should evaluate not even the mortality rate as such in this special settlement and in the first decade of the century, but your "unbiased" attitude by two periods.
                        Is there anything human in you at all?

                        Using your example, you can read lectures on the topic "Types of logical errors used in manipulations". This one is called an appeal to feelings (argumentum ad passiones).
                        In the North-Dvinsky District: on 12.IV-30

                        Total died 784
                        Of which CHILDREN 634

                        NO

                        Have you decided to disprove yourself? wassat
                        And why did you decide to inflate it with just this:
                        People's Commissar of the NKVD Tolmachev reported in 1933

                        belay To whom? A bunk neighbor in the barracks?

                        Here, too, Yaroslavna's crying is not necessary to answer this question.
                        You are wrong with the date. And you just have to admit it. And not to spread the thought along the tree.
                      5. -2
                        4 August 2021 13: 28
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        What? Breaking the pattern? As Mikhailo Vasilievich used to say, mathematics must be taught only then, that it puts the mind in order.

                        math hasn't touched you
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        What for? Do you think I have not read all these documents?

                        poke your nose into your oh
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        a handy piece to show the figure at 80%.

                        this is a CRIME, if it did not reach: the overwhelming number of the dead are CHILDREN.
                        ON more:
                        In the Vologda District from March 29 to April 15 children were sick - 4850, of them died - 677, including only on April 12-13, 162 people died [sheep]
                        it is for... TWO weeks died... TEN percent of the total number of children. And for a month the mortality rate is ... 20%. and FOR A YEAR? !! angry

                        I ask again, is there anything human left in you?
                      6. -1
                        4 August 2021 14: 01
                        poke your nose into your oh
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        a handy piece to show the figure at 80%.

                        And in what I am wrong - you gave this figure initially, without giving other figures, since this was the highest.
                        this is a CRIME, if it did not reach: the overwhelming number of the dead are CHILDREN.

                        Once again I tell you, not even in the conditions of Siberia in special settlements during a period when there is a high birth rate and high infant mortality, all the same, half of the deaths will be children EVEN ON THE AVERAGE across the country, not to mention considering some specific areas. Just do not take half literally as exactly 50% and not a percentage more or less. I have to warn you right away, because I had the pleasure of repeatedly observing your "achievements" in the perception of information.
                        this for ... TWO weeks died ... TEN percent of the total number of children. And for a month the mortality rate is ... 20%. but FOR A YEAR? !!

                        belay fool
                        I can answer with your own words
                        math hasn't touched you

                        1) Not from the total number of children, but among the sick
                        2) Well, continue over the year with the same Makar as you calculated for the month, mathematician lol
                        0,5 months - 10%
                        1 month (2 to 0,5 months) - 2 * 10% = 20%
                        1 year (12 for 1 month) - 12 * 20% = 240%. (apparently they will rise and die again, and some for the third time)
                        I can't even comment on this kind of thinking of an ADULT person, it is so stupid.
                      7. -2
                        4 August 2021 15: 33
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And what am I wrong - it was you who originally brought this figure

                        DOCUMENTED HORROR figure
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Once again, I tell you, even not in the conditions of Siberia in special settlements in a period when there is a high birth rate and high infant mortality, all the same, half of the deaths will be children EVEN ON THE AVERAGE across countries

                        I say again: stop CREATING and CURVING on SUCH topics (nothing human):
                        1.there are no such numbers
                        2. All the weak died en masse even when transporting in your livestock trucks during long hauls in winter.
                        So the reality is even worse
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        I can answer with your own words
                        math hasn't touched you

                        then read again: math has not touched you
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        1) Not from the total number of children, but among the sick

                        with the indicated disease among children in 85%, counting the TOTAL number of children is a riddle only for vile fool
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        0,5 months - 10%
                        1 month (2 to 0,5 months) - 2 * 10% = 20%
                        1 year (12 for 1 month) - 12 * 20% = 240%.
                        Я like that, so it is dumb.

                        for stupid everything is "stupid": 100% / 20% = 5.

                        EVERYONE will die in 5 months (at the same mortality rate as in those two weeks)
                        dawned not? No.
                      8. -1
                        4 August 2021 16: 06
                        DOCUMENTED HORROR figure

                        I asked you
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        And where am I wrong

                        Maybe it's worth answering the questions? Well, for a change. Maybe learn something
                        I say again: stop CREATING and CURVING on SUCH topics (nothing human):
                        1.there are no such numbers

                        Who? You? No doubt. You can't find anything like this in the Internet garbage dumps. And with your mind you will not get to this, you need to know at least a little mathematics.
                        with the indicated disease among children in 85%, counting the TOTAL number of children is a riddle only for vile

                        Twist yourself. Because this is a pathetic attempt to get out - The overall incidence rate is not the same as the incidence rate in the specified county. Which is easily verified in the city of Arkhangelsk for which more complete information is given (and the total number of children, both sick and dead)
                        for the dumb, everything is "dumb": 100% / 20% = 5.

                        EVERYONE will die in 5 months (at the same mortality rate as in those two weeks)
                        dawned not?

                        pathetic attempt to get out
                        1)
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        this for ... TWO weeks died ... TEN percent of the total number of children. And for month MORTALITY ... 20%... but FOR A YEAR? !!

                        You "calculated" the MORTALITY rate for the period. Well so calculate it for the year, just like you calculated it for the month wassat fool Or explain why you then received 20% for the month? How did this figure come about? tongue
                        2) Even now, trying to get out, you continue to show mathematical illiteracy - with a 20% mortality rate, the number of months before everyone's death is not calculated as 100% / 20% = 5. I explain for "mathematicians"
                        There are 100 people and the mortality rate is 20% every month
                        1st month - 80 people left
                        2nd month - 64 people left
                        3 months - 51 people left
                        4 months - 41 people left
                        5 month - 32 people left
                        6 month - 25 people left
                        etc.
                        Moreover, there can be no fixed mortality while maintaining the same conditions that are responsible for these very 20%. Therefore, in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. months it will be a different indicator - 25%, 33%, 50%, etc.
                        Therefore, do not show anyone else your 100% / 20% = 5 months, do not disgrace yourself once again.
                      9. -2
                        4 August 2021 16: 35
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Maybe it's worth answering the questions? Well, for a change. Maybe learn something

                        maybe you should keep your advice to yourself? You are answered as deemed necessary. and the Land of the Soviets for a long time bye-bye, yeah.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Twist yourself. Because this is a pathetic attempt to get out - The overall incidence rate is not the same as the incidence rate in the specified county. Which is easily verified in the city of Arkhangelsk for which more complete information is given (and the total number of children, both sick and dead)

                        I'll twist it for you, because you need it more: from a letter:
                        The total percentage of morbidity among children - 85

                        from the number of cases, get the total number of children in the district.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You "calculated" the MORTALITY rate for the period. Well, calculate it for the year, just as you calculated it for the month. Or explain why you then got 20% for the month? How did this figure come about?

                        10% died in half a month, 10 + 10 = 20% in a month (roughly)
                        Even now, trying to get out, you continue to show mathematical illiteracy.
                        Even now, trying to get out, you continue to show mathematical illiteracy: 6000-1200-1200-1200-1200-1200.

                        I think SO correct.

                      10. -1
                        4 August 2021 17: 52
                        You are answered as deemed necessary.

                        I understand that you consider it necessary not to answer the direct questions posed, because by answering them, you will expose yourself at the same time, to put it mildly, from the bad side.
                        The total percentage of morbidity among children - 85
                        from the number of cases, get the total number of children in the district.

                        Once again, it might work:
                        The overall incidence rate is not the same as the incidence rate for the specified county. Which is easily verified in the city of Arkhangelsk for which more complete information is given (and the total number of children, both sick and dead)

                        Since it will not work anyway, and in order to prevent another round of stupidity, you will have to explain right away
                        If you are claiming that 1) the total% incidence is the same as the% incidence by individual admin. units that are mentioned in the letter (since you accept it for a separate admin.unit), then 2) the incidence of 85% will be for the city of Arkhangelsk. We check on the basis of the data on Arkhangelsk specified in the letter.
                        3) 6007 out of 8000 children fell ill. The incidence of children 6007/8000 = 75%.
                        4) Since 75% is not equal to 85%, then statement (1) is not true.
                        10% died in half a month, 10 + 10 = 20% in a month (roughly)

                        And who else thinks mortality, besides you? wassat
                        1) First, "died" is identical, but not equal to "mortality"
                        2) Secondly, well, continue to calculate MORTALITY and further in the time interval - stretch this month to a year in the same way as you stretched half a month to a month lol
                        And it will be exactly what I showed above
                        0,5 months - 10%
                        1 month (2 to 0,5 months) - 2 * 10% = 20%
                        1 year (12 for 1 month) - 12 * 20% = 240%. (apparently they will rise and die again, and some for the third time)

                        Since mortality (the ratio of the number of deaths to the total population per unit of time) cannot be more than 100%, it is clear that your "method" of calculation is wrong.
                        Even now, trying to get out, you continue to show mathematical illiteracy: 6000-1200-1200-1200-1200-1200.

                        I think SO correct.

                        Well, it's bad that you think so right. Because this is not right. You are not arguing with me now, but with logic and mathematics.
                      11. -1
                        5 August 2021 08: 12
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        I understandthat you consider it necessary not to answer the direct questions posed,

                        You DO NOT understand: I am expressing my point of view and exactly as I think it is right and necessary.

                        Your questions are not interesting to me: I don’t know you, I don’t respect you, I think, um, and that is why I don’t want to hear or talk to you (which you have been repeatedly pointed out to), but you constantly impose on your "communication".

                        Something else is not clear?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Once again, it might work:

                        You definitely did not understand the meaning of the word GENERAL - under the ALL message, i.e. percentage to the edge in WHOLE: somewhere more, somewhere less, but on average, such. And to estimate the number of children in the Vologda District, it is applicable. General the percentage of morbidity among children - 85 and
                        from the number of cases, we get the total number of children in the district.
                        and get absolutely WILD ELEVEN percent of child deaths in ,,,, half a month. ... And in one DAY ... 162 died the child of 5707, almost 3%
                        Are you ... human? No.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        0,5 months - 10%
                        1 month (2 to 0,5 months) - 2 * 10% = 20%

                        exactly like this: 4850 / 0,85 = 5707
                        677+((5707-677)*01)=1180
                        1180 / 5707 = 20%
                        Did it get there?

                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        , it is not right. You are not arguing with me right now.


                        This is absolutely correct, for
                        : Tolmachev: in two to three weeks we will be eyewitnesses even MORE aggravated phenomena
                        and therefore there is nothing to argue about with those who have neither knowledge, nor logic, nor common sense, nor conscience.

                        Fiiiii, ... negative
                      12. -2
                        5 August 2021 09: 09
                        I express my point of view and exactly as I think it is right and necessary.

                        If you cannot confirm it or if it contradicts the exact sciences, then the price is zero.
                        but on average, so. And to estimate the number of children in the Vologda District, it is applicable

                        No. If you wanted to, this does not mean that mathematics agrees with it. Anecdote about cabbage, meat and cabbage rolls to remind? The failure of your approach is verified by testing it against the overall mortality rate. Which is listed immediately after the overall incidence rate. If you claim that overall morbidity applies to individual admin units, then the same applies to overall mortality. So, you "counted" that there are 4850 / 0,85 = 5707 children in the Vologda District. This means that, with an overall mortality of 7-8%, 5707 * (0,07 ... 0,08) = 400 ... 457 people died. Which is not true (677). This means that the total number of children is determined incorrectly. This means that the total mortality rate cannot be transferred to individual admin units. Which is what you are told already what message in a row.
                        And in one DAY

                        You could not even resist here so as not to lie, arbitrarily reducing April 12-13 to a day.
                        exactly like this: 4850 / 0,85 = 5707
                        677+((5707-677)*01)=1180
                        1180 / 5707 = 20%
                        Did it get there?

                        That you don't know mathematics and logic? I have been communicating with you for a long time, so of course this is not a discovery for me.
                        And what did you count? You just translated the percentage record into natural, but you use the same erroneous method of determination. It is incorrect regardless of the form of its recording. Why did you ignore the request?
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        stretch this month to a year in the same way as you stretched half a month to a month lol

                        Because the absurdity of your "calculation" is immediately revealed.
                        This is absolutely correct, for
                        : Tolmachev: in two or three weeks we will witness even MORE aggravated phenomena

                        Tolmachev's assumptions do not conflict in any way with the fact that you do not know mathematics and this is
                        6000-1200-1200-1200-1200-1200.

                        I think SO correct.

                        Not the correct way of calculating. Because it started with this
                        for the dumb, everything is "dumb": 100% / 20% = 5.

                        And now to 100% / 20% = 5 (that is, to your mat. Illiteracy) you will not fasten Tolmachev's words in any way.
                        WILD ELEVEN percent of child deaths

                        On what basis did you decide that they are just that, just wild? Yes, this is a lot, it is more than it would be in other conditions. This is understandable and understandable. But an attempt to manipulate this to demonize will fail exactly at the moment when you stop ripping out these numbers and considering them separately from the mortality of children in general in the country, and even more so if we consider them with the period about which you sing laudatory odes. You are pointing at 80%. In the north, in a special settlement. Given that the letter clearly states that this is not considered normal and correct, and measures are prescribed to change the situation. And what about the figures of 75-77% in the first decade of the 20th century in ordinary counties 500-600 kilometers to the south? Sounds normal for you?
                      13. -1
                        5 August 2021 10: 49
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        If you cannot confirm it or if it contradicts the exact sciences, then the price is zero.

                        everything is confirmed and proven as I see fit, your "estimates" are ZERO, I urge you not to litter them.

                        your questions are not interesting to me: I don’t know you, I don’t respect you, I think, um, and that is why I don’t want to hear or talk to you (which you have repeatedly pointed out to), but you constantly impose your "communication".

                        Something else is not clear?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        No.

                        Yes, hack to death on your forehead:
                        General the percentage of morbidity among children - 85. [/ B]
                        on the EDGE - somewhere more, somewhere less. Those. it is applicable, but its pathetic differences, which do not affect a single grain for understanding the HORROR that is happening, shove it, yes.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You could not even resist here so as not to lie, arbitrarily reducing April 12-13 to a day.

                        fool 13-12 1 =
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And what did you count?

                        didn't get it? The calculated number of deaths per MONTH is TWENTY% of the total number of children.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        That you are I have been communicating with you for a long time,

                        you don't know mathematics and logic. I have been communicating with you for a long time, so of course this is not a discovery for me.
                        to school, ignorance! lol
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Tolmachev's assumptions do not conflict in any way

                        trend Tolmacheva is in conflict with your post and disability to understand that the number of deaths of 20% per month is still a fairy tale in comparison with the future calculated by him.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Yes, this is a lot, it is more than it would be in other conditions. This is understandable and understandable.

                        for NON-people "understandable and understandable".
                        But for normal people, no.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        rip off these figures and consider them separately from child mortality in general in the country

                        not torn out, but given - with wild numbers of CHILDREN mortality.

                        You stubbornly do not want to KNOW and read to you the indicated, liar, that a huge number of the weak died in cattle trucks during the "journey" in the terrible winter along the way to the Arkhangelsk SHALASHI, i.e. 20% of deaths are already among the SURVIVORS. And so the numbers are even more WILD.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        this is not considered normal and correct and measures are prescribed to change the situation

                        it is normal WITHOUT COURT to get children out of bed from a warm house in 30-degree frost, rob them, undress them and throw them to the north in ... huts? fool
                        For non-humans only
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And what about the figures of 75-77% in the first decade of the 20th century in ordinary counties 500-600 kilometers to the south? Sounds normal for you?

                        AT 1932
                        The Ust-Yagilyat paramedic point is still reminiscent of the previous report, no results have been received, and therefore I add: lately patients have increased, diseases are progressing in the majority, general swelling of the body, bloody diarrhea, boring abdominal pain, catarrh, simple diarrhea, constipation, bloating and peritonitis - all ages suffer, children and adults, children swell and die from malnutrition. 75% of the population have the appearance of a depleted, earthy-colored body.

                        Mothers, women in childbirth and breast-feeding children suffer excruciating suffering, after childbirth they feed on steamed unrefined rye, after which diseases of the digestive organs and female diseases are obtained, the baby is fed with surrogates, which he soars and gives, and there is no milk in the breasts. In the food reinforcement, give out flour or cereals of some kind or something else, this is all missing. On the basis of which the strong flight of settlers in whole areas intensified.
                        Seeing such a painful picture before our eyes - hunger and starvation, I especially ask you to give an answer on what measures have been taken in relation to the above diseases,
                      14. -2
                        5 August 2021 12: 16
                        everything is confirmed and proven as I see fit

                        A simple single example - how did you confirm this figure:
                        which from 1961 to 1983 increased the supply of this to 324 times

                        Or these words:
                        and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                        ? Show confirmation of this figure and these words in this article? You can not? How then do you say that everything is confirmed? Lying again.
                        Yes, hack to death on your forehead:
                        The overall incidence rate among children is 85. [/ B]
                        on the EDGE - somewhere more, somewhere less. Those. it is applicable, and its pitiful differences, which do not affect any granny for understanding

                        The overall incidence rate in the region is 85%. Yes
                        Does anyone argue with this? No
                        Can the total edge percentage be used to calculate the total population of individual admin units? No.
                        Does the person who does this have common sense? No
                        13-12 1 =

                        Ooooh, that everything is so bad, I had no idea.
                        April 12-13 is 1 day (April 12) +1 day (April 13) = 2 days.
                        The calculated number of deaths per MONTH is TWENTY% of the total number of children.

                        You have been asked repeatedly:
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        stretch this month to a year in the same way as you stretched half a month to a month lol

                        What is stopping you? Understanding (after being shown this to you) that you will reach the impossible figure of 240%?
                        To make it perhaps clearer, let's take the case when we have complete statistics that you trust.
                        Mortality from coronavirus on January 14.01.2021, 2021 (first two weeks of 69940) in Russia 3520531/1,8 = 31.01.2021%. As of 2021/73182/3850439 (the second two weeks in January 1,9 or after a month has passed) - 1,8/1,8 = 3,6%. Not 86122% + 4246079% = 2%. Mortality at the end of February - 3,6/3,6 = 7.2%. Not XNUMX% + XNUMX% = XNUMX%.
                        trend Tolmacheva conflicts with your post and disability to understand that the number of deaths of 20% per month is still a fairy tale compared to calculated by him the future

                        belay Demonstrate these calculations, and at the same time figure out what conditions must be met in order to be able to talk about a trend, and for this, first it would be nice to understand the mathematical basis underlying this concept. There is nothing in the letter that can be passed off as a trend, since there is no data in it that allows you to get the function of changing some indicators from others.
                        And so the numbers are even WILDER

                        As long as you are guided by one letter, you can use only its contents for conclusions. Everything else will be unsubstantiated. Even if they are logical, they will not allow the actual figures to be estimated. And only actual figures will allow us to estimate the scale. There is no doubt that you want to inflate it to the maximum and that is why you prefer a minimum of initial data.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        fine... ?

                        Don't ignore the answers of others.
                        AT 1932

                        1) It's about 1930.
                        2) And? I've read more of your various documents. I don’t understand what you want to prove with this? What if people are placed in difficult conditions, then they are more likely to die than in other conditions? Everyone knows this. That people found themselves unwillingly in such conditions? This is also not a secret. Again you ignore what they write to you.
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        But an attempt to manipulate this to demonize will fail exactly at the moment when you stop ripping out these numbers and considering them separately from the mortality of children in general in the country, and even more so if we consider them with the period about which you sing laudatory odes. You are pointing at 80%. In the north, in a special settlement. Despite the fact that the letter clearly states that this is not considered normal and correct, and measures are prescribed to change the situation. And what about the figures of 75-77% in the first decade of the 20th century in ordinary counties 500-600 kilometers to the south? Sounds normal for you?
                      15. -1
                        5 August 2021 13: 03
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        A simple single example - how did you confirm this figure:
                        which from 1961 to 1983 increased the supply thereof 324 times

                        Or these words:
                        and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                        so read ISTMAT, ignoramus,
                        which you "read" and what LIEED about here
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Is it possible to use the total percentage at the edge to calculate the total population of individual admin units

                        what ... population? fool
                        and yes, you can, should and should for the district

                        Your insignificant "conclusions" are in a landfill.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You have been asked repeatedly

                        P 1. Repeatedly answered: I am not interested in your requests, questions, assessments and judgments.

                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Ohhhh,
                        12-13 April

                        13-12 = 1 day
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Demonstrate these calculations, and at the same time figure out which terms must be fulfilled in order to be able to talk about the trend,

                        Tolmachev: "It will be WORSE"
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        That you want to inflate it to the maximum

                        once again, unseeing: in your cattle trucks, a huge mass of people have ALREADY died and the figure of 20% of the deaths is among the SURVIVORS after the mass death.
                        Got it?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        fine... ?

                        Don't ignore the answers of others.
                        AT 1932

                        1) It's about 1930.

                        don't tell me what to say.
                        And remember that throwing CHILDREN out of the house in 30 degrees frost, robbing them, undressing them and throwing them to the north in ... huts is normal
                        only for non-humans.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        what do you want to prove by this?

                        That this is a blatant INHANE that is "normal and understandable" for you
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Again you ignore what they write to you.

                        see P. 1
                      16. -2
                        5 August 2021 14: 15
                        so read ISTMAT, ignoramus,
                        which you "read"

                        Yes, I read it. You lied, in the source you indicated there are no documents for all the years you wrote.
                        what ... population?

                        amendment - children. This is perfectly clear from the context of previous messages and does not affect the conclusions.
                        and yes, you can, should and should for the district

                        Your insignificant "conclusions" are in a landfill.

                        I didn’t come up with mathematics and logic, so these are not only my conclusions.
                        No you can not. The results obtained will not show the real figure. This can be verified mathematically in an elementary way.
                        P 1. Repeatedly answered: I am not interested in your requests, questions, assessments and judgments.

                        That is, you are not able to confirm your words.
                        13-12 = 1 day

                        April 12-13 is 1 day (April 12) +1 day (April 13) = 2 days
                        If you continue to persist even here, then answer 2 simple questions:
                        1) How many days is April 12?
                        2) How many days is April 13?
                        laughing
                        Tolmachev: "It will be WORSE"

                        Is this a trend? fool
                        Once again, your twisting by looking for and squeezing out words from the text of the letter, in order to catch at least something, will not make your "calculations" correct in any way
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        for stupid everything is "stupid": 100% / 20% = 5

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        6000-1200-1200-1200-1200-1200.

                        I think SO correct.

                        negative
                        once again, unseeing: in your cattle trucks, a huge mass of people have ALREADY died and the figure of 20% of the deaths is among the SURVIVORS after the mass death.
                        Got it?

                        AND? This also does not make your calculations correct (see above). Exactly as there is no 20% figure - you are shown why it is incorrect. Even with an example from the present.
                        don't tell me what to say.
                        And remember that throwing CHILDREN out of the house in 30 degrees frost, robbing them, undressing them and throwing them to the north in ... huts is normal
                        only for non-humans.

                        1) Do you disagree that the letter is from 1930, not 1932?
                        2) Copy me my words where I say that it is normal.
                        That this is a blatant INHANE that is "normal and understandable" for you

                        1) You have distorted my words. Copy my text where I write "normal and understandable".
                        Clearwhat causes affect the mortality rate and understandablewhy in those conditions the mortality rate will be higher than in others. Don't you understand?
                        see P. 1

                        And what happened? Is the question too difficult? Or uncomfortable? wassat
                      17. -1
                        6 August 2021 10: 14
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        I didn’t come up with mathematics and logic, so these are not only my conclusions.
                        No you can not..

                        Yes, you can, should and should apply for the district.

                        An example with numbers for the month is chewed for you, put in your mouth and pushed further

                        Your ratings are negligible - see Clause 1
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        That is

                        P 1. Repeatedly answered: I am not interested in your requests, questions, assessments and judgments.
                        I am completely indifferent to what you think of me and how you assess me
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        April 12-13 is 1 day (April 12) +1 day (April 13) = 2 days

                        if it is hard with the thought process, then work with your hands: take 13 nuts and set aside 12: 13-12 1 = Yes
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Is this a trend?

                        undoubtedly:
                        Tolmachev: in two or three weeks we will be eyewitnesses even more aggravated phenomena,

                        Not satisfied? -cm. P 1
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Once again, your

                        see P. 1
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        AND? This does not do exactly the same (see above)

                        makes the fact of inhumanity towards children even more terrible.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Exactly as there is no 20% figure - you are shown why it is incorrect.

                        there is deathb 20% of children in ... one month and it is chewed for you, put in your mouth and stuffed inside.

                        See Clause 1
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        2) Copy me my words where I say it's ok

                        To:
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        Yes, this is a lot, it is more than it would be in other conditions. This is understandable and understandable.

                        This is understandable and explicable only for non-humans.

                        But something like this is inexplicable and incomprehensible for NORMAL people:
                        1.
                        throwing a million CHILDREN out of the house in a 30-degree frost, robbing them, throwing them into cattle trucks and to the north in ... huts


                        2.
                        In the Vologda District from March 29 to April 15, children were ill - 4850, of which died - 677, including 12 people died on April 13-162


                        3. When 80% of the dead are CHILDREN,
                        and so forth

                        My goal was to find at least something human, but alas ...

                        PS to make it clearer: your example:
                        To make it perhaps clearer, let's take the case when we have complete statistics that you trust.
                        Mortality from coronavirus on 14.01.2021/2021/69940 (first two weeks of 3520531) in Russia 1,8/31.01.2021 = 2021%. As of 73182/3850439/1,9 (the second two weeks in January 1,8 or after a month has passed) - 1,8/3,6 = XNUMX%. Not XNUMX% + XNUMX% = XNUMX%
                        just stupid: the virus takes its 1,8%, and the rest survive and it does not affect them anymore , but the frost arranged by your children could take both 20 and 50 and all 100% at the same time, and it kills further - there is no immunity from it for the survivors in the first month.

                        don't thank.

                        And that's all.
                      18. -1
                        6 August 2021 11: 39
                        Yes, you can, should and should apply for the district.
                        An example with numbers for the month is chewed for you, put in your mouth and pushed further

                        Stretch this month to a year in the same way as you stretched half a month to a month tongue
                        What is stopping you? Understanding (after being shown this to you) that you will reach the impossible figure of 240%?
                        if it is hard with the thought process, then work with your hands: take 13 nuts and set aside 12: 13-12 = 1

                        April 12-13 is 1 day (April 12) +1 day (April 13) = 2 days
                        If you continue to persist even here, then answer 2 simple questions:
                        1) How many days is April 12?
                        2) How many days is April 13?

                        certainly

                        Certainly not.
                        makes

                        Certainly not. This is not true:
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        for stupid everything is "stupid": 100% / 20% = 5


                        Quote: olgovich
                        6000-1200-1200-1200-1200-1200.

                        I think SO correct.

                        negative
                        there is a death of 20% of children in ... one month and it is chewed on you, put in your mouth and shoved inside

                        There is no 20% figure - you are shown why it is wrong.
                        Copy me mine wordswhere i say it normally

                        On the:
                        Yes, this is a lot, it is more than it would be in other conditions. This is understandable and understandable.

                        There is no word normal in the text you copied. You distorted my words and lied.
                        This is understandable and explicable only for non-humans.

                        It is clear what causes affect the mortality rate and it is understandable why mortality in those conditions will be higher than in others. And such things are understandable to any person who knows how to think. Don't you understand?
                        When 80% of the deceased are CHILDREN

                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        an attempt to manipulate this to demonize will fail exactly at the moment when you stop ripping out these numbers and considering them separately from the mortality of children in general in the country, and even more so if we consider them with the period about which you sing laudatory odes. You are pointing at 80%. In the north, in a special settlement. Despite the fact that the letter clearly states that this is not considered normal and correct, and measures are prescribed to change the situation. BUT How do you like the figures of 75-77% in the first decade of the 20th century in ordinary counties 500-600 kilometers to the south? Sounds normal for you?

                        the virus takes its 1,8%, and the rest survive and it does not work on them anymore, but the frost arranged by your children could take both 20 and 50 and all 100% at a time and kills and further - there is no immunity from it for survivors in the first month.

                        1) fool This has nothing to do with the fact that it is not mathematically correct to transpose the value of the indicator over time. by multiplying this indicator.
                        2) fool Understand what was written to you in my message. At the same time, you will learn how the mortality rate is calculated. The denominators in the message above are the number of cases, that is, those who do not have immunity. Therefore, your stupidity "it does not affect them" has nothing to do with the numbers above. And since the numbers above have a range of 1,8-1,9-2, and not 1,8-3,6-7,2, this refutes your absurd calculations in previous messages.
                        3) Don't distort the letter. Mortality from viral diseases. One of the reasons for their development is low temperature. But low temperature in itself is not the cause of death. She is the cause of the disease. And already the disease ends in death or recovery. And since the diseases are VIRAL, the mathematical model of their spread is the same as for other viral diseases, including coronavirus.
                      19. -2
                        4 August 2021 10: 18
                        Quote: A vile skeptic
                        And how will you confirm your words? Well, the fact that he ended up in the camp because of this letter?

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        I am deeply indifferent to your writings.

                        That is, they lied again for a catchphrase.
        2. +2
          2 August 2021 12: 45
          and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

          We read exactly the same way as you recently "read" about Korolenko's "Hungry Year" from Istmat?
          Or is it a calculation that there will not be anyone willing to shove through 30 thousand documents to show that you have "arbitrarily expanded" the list? Or can you give a link from history and mathematics to each year you write? Well, can you? Or, again, will it be like with the recent "links" to the WHO report? winked
          1. +1
            3 August 2021 07: 18
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            We read exactly the same "?

            read as you like, it won't work anyway.
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Or is it a calculation that there will not be anyone willing to shove through 30 thousand documents to show that you have "arbitrarily expanded" the list?

            on the contrary, I welcome the foundling in every possible way! Yes
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Or can you give a link from history and mathematics to each year you write? Well, can you?

            The source is indicated for the foundling.
            After shoveling them 30 thousand docks, I will point out others.
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Or, again, it will be like with the recent "links" to the WHO report

            what, fool belay request still haven't got it?
            1. -2
              3 August 2021 08: 39
              Found a source indicated

              That is, you cannot show links. Not surprising
              what, fool belay request still hasn't been received?

              Of course, it didn’t come to what a person who is periodically caught on manipulation, ignorance or lies, relying on a fictitious link is counting on? That they won't check her? laughing
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 09: 10
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                That is, you cannot show links. Not surprising

                go to and on the SPECIFIED source site. Tired of. And
                Read a CONTRACT about the crimes of your "successful people", in which in Peacetime in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century , in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.

                Let me remind you that ANYWHERE in the world, and even more so in Europe, this was not the case then. Hack it on your forehead!
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Of course, it did not come to what the person who is periodically caught on manipulations is counting on

                you only catch yourself for lol .

                To freedom, yes! Yes
                1. -2
                  3 August 2021 09: 42
                  Again, empty chatter and zero specifics. There are no links from, in vain, you mentioned, Istmath for each year indicated by you from you.
                  1. -1
                    3 August 2021 09: 51
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    Again, empty chatter and zero specifics. Links with,

                    Again, idle chatter and zero specifics from Nobody.

                    go in and outsite of the SPECIFIED source... Tired of. And
                    Read CONTRACT about the crimes of their "successful people", during which in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.

                    Got it, no?

                    Let me remind you that ANYWHERE in the world, and even more so in Europe, this was not the case then. Hack it on your forehead!

                    To freedom, yes!
                    1. -1
                      3 August 2021 10: 06
                      How in a frying pan wassat
                      We are talking about specific your words
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                      Can you confirm them with links to specific documents from the specified source for each written year?
                      Well, can you? Or as always? wassat The answer to this question is very simple and does not imply the collateral "laments of Yaroslavna". There are only two possible answers:
                      1) I can (and give links)
                      2) I can't, I'm just an evil windbag and for our tribe the confirmation of my words is a sign of bad taste.
                      1. -1
                        4 August 2021 08: 57
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        How in a frying pan

                        yes, they "cooked" you, yes. lol
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        We talk about your specific words
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                        1.belay"We talk"? fool
                        It is YOU that sticks and sticks with your "conversations", although you It has been repeatedly said that with individualconsidering Crimea illegally occupied by Russia, I say, um, unpleasant (disdain).

                        2. Source SPECIFIED.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        There are only two possible answers:

                        in fact, there are three options.

                        And here's the third one for you: go to the Istmat site.

                        Read a CONTRACT about the crimes of their "successful people", in which in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.

                        Got it, no? No.
                      2. -1
                        4 August 2021 09: 08
                        although it has been said to you that it is unpleasant for me to say, um, with an individual who considers Crimea illegally captured by Russia (disdain).

                        Have you entered with the trump cards? lol
                        Show me the link to the article and my message, where I say this and in the form that you wrote here? And see tongue
                        And here's the third one for you: go to the Istmat site.

                        Read a CONTRACT about the crimes of their "successful people", in which in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.

                        Got it, no?

                        laughing
                        You know, but I’m only from the Istmat website, I didn’t sleep at night, I read all day long. All 30 thousand documents. And you know, there are no documents for all those years that you wrote.
                        Therefore, you - deceived all readers of the Military Review request
                        Ay-yay-yay, how bad of you. wassat tongue
                      3. -2
                        4 August 2021 09: 48
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Have you entered with the trump cards?
                        Show me the link to the article and my message, where I say this and in the form that you wrote here? And see

                        "By herself, by herself!" (C) Yes
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You know, but I’m only from the Eastmath website, I didn’t sleep at night, read all day long. All 30 thousand documentsin. And you know, there are no documents for all those years that you wrote.
                        Therefore, you - deceived all readers of the Military Review
                        Ay-yay-yay, how bad of you.

                        you lying и you know this.

                        Fiii, disgrace ... negative
                      4. -1
                        4 August 2021 09: 58
                        By herself, by herself

                        Then you are a slanderer. But only.
                        you lie and you know it.
                        Fiii, disgrace .... negative

                        But you can only prove it by providing the documents about which I say that they do not exist, and you say that there are. Until then, you have deceived all readers of the Military Review. Ay-yay-yay, how bad of you. Do you know what this is called in chess? wassat
                      5. -2
                        4 August 2021 12: 27
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Then you are a slanderer.

                        then you are a liar.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        But you can prove it by providing

                        it's not up to you to decide what the evidence is. Source SPECIFIED.

                        Your assessments ("not good", etc.) are deeply indifferent to me. When will it come?
                        Rid me of this rubbish of yours
                      6. -1
                        4 August 2021 12: 35
                        then you are a liar.

                        How funny you are.
                        it's not up to you to decide what the evidence is. Source SPECIFIED.

                        I suppose. that it is obvious to you that only you, the king-father, are deciding something here wassat
                        The source after the indication was checked and it was found out that your phrase with the listing of specific years does not correspond to reality.
                      7. -2
                        4 August 2021 13: 06
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        How funny you are.

                        not a vile clown, yeah
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        I suppose. that it is obvious to you that only you, the king-father, are deciding something here


                        Not satisfied?

                        and no one is holding you, yes
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        The source after the indication was checked and it was found out that your phrase with the listing of specific years does not correspond to reality.

                        you lie and KNOW it
                      8. -1
                        4 August 2021 13: 17
                        Not satisfied?

                        On the contrary, it allows you to compose your psychological portrait. good
                        you lie and KNOW it

                        An unsubstantiated statement, have you thought of slandering again?
                        It is written to you how you can show my lies. Until this is done, you have deceived all readers of the Military Review.
                        As a matter of fact, why does it bother you so much? Well, if it hadn't been deceived. Then it's a shame. But you yourself know that you have cheated. For the first time or something. lol
                      9. -2
                        4 August 2021 16: 47
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Quite the opposite, it allows make up your psychological portrait

                        belay fool lol
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        An unsubstantiated statement, have you thought of slandering again?
                        It is written to you how you can show my lies. Until this is done, you have deceived all readers of the Military Review.
                        As a matter of fact, why does it bother you so much? Well, if it hadn't been deceived. Then it's a shame. But you yourself know that you have cheated. For the first time or something

                        An unsubstantiated statement, have you thought of slandering again?
                        It is written to you how you can show my lies. Until this is done, you have deceived all readers of the Military Review.
                        As a matter of fact, why does it bother you so much? Well, if it hadn't been deceived. Then it's a shame. But you yourself know that you have cheated. For the first time or something fool lol
                      10. -1
                        4 August 2021 16: 50
                        Everything, the "comrade" merged, began to parrot negative
                        Moreover, it is so stupid that he does not understand that my repetition of the text in this case cannot be redirected to me - it simply will not make sense in this case
                      11. -2
                        4 August 2021 17: 05
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Everything, the "comrade" merged, began to parrot
                        And so stupidly that he does not understand that my repetition of the text in this case cannot be redirected to me - it simply will not make sense in this case

                        everything, merged goods liar, exhausted. lol

                        Together with the stupidity about the "impossibility" to redirect MY (not his fool lol ) repetition of the text on the merged. lol

                        And yes): Read on ISTMAT CONTRACT website about the crimes of their "successful people", during which in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.

                        Maybe at least THAT human will wake up?
                      12. -1
                        4 August 2021 17: 11
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                        You deceived the readers of the Military Review.
                        In addition, you were dragged into a conversation in which you made a lot of stupid to the extreme.
                        And this nonsense is now available to all readers for review.
                        And the fact that you continue to clown around at the same time is also in the piggy bank of your psychological portrait.
                        Clown around further.
                      13. -1
                        5 August 2021 06: 38
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You deceived the readers of the Military Review.

                        FACTS of mass permanent famine in the period from 1918 to the mid-1950s were presented with the years of hunger deaths in 1918,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,28 biennium

                        At the same time, the years 1920-23,32, 33-XNUMX are generally years of multi-million starvation deaths unprecedented in the world with mass cannibalism and corpse-eating. ...

                        What is proven by the DOCUMENTS of Istmath and a number of other sources

                        You are outright lying that you have read 2 thousand documents of the History of History in 30 days and you will never swear to it.
                        A disgrace.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        you navaliya now
                        And what you while continuing p.

                        you are repeatedly told: get rid of your empty verbal rubbish "estimates" of my modest person (FLUDA) butfocus on the TOPIC of the discussion, about which in your comment - NO WORDS.

                        Spiteful negligible assessments from Nobody are of interest to anyone.

                        Therefore, I urge you to stop clowning, but carefully cut down on your forehead the testimonies from the ISTMAT website about how in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal. Maybe at least something human will wake up in the Russophobe ..
                      14. -2
                        5 August 2021 08: 33
                        and in 1918,19,20,23,24,25,28,30,34,36,37 we read Istmat

                        You are deceiving the readers of the Military Review
                        FACTS presented ... with the years of hunger deaths in 1918,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,28.

                        You continue to deceive the readers of the Military Review.
                        When you were asked to confirm your words with documents from the specified source, you were blown away.
                        And that's just this - FACT.
                        focus on the TOPIC of the discussion

                        wassat
                        Find your first post in this thread and explain how it relates to the US and parliamentary elections in Russia.
                        Maybe at least something human will wake up in the Russophobe ..

                        The standard trick for liars when they are caught in a lie is to pass on the identity of the one who exposed their lie.
                      15. -1
                        5 August 2021 11: 08
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You are deceiving the readers of the Military Review

                        you are a liar: the source is given
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic

                        When you were asked to confirm your words with documents from the specified source.

                        who asked? You? You are nobody for me, the instructions of the Istmat Source are enough for you, and these documents are there.

                        Note that the vile one does not want to swear to read all 30 thousand docks, as he cheekily lied here.
                        For a liar's ear and into the sun! lol
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Find your first post in this thread and explain how it relates to the US and parliamentary elections in Russia.

                        direct. Didn't get it? Your problems.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        The standard trick for liars when they are caught lying is to switch to personality addition,.

                        belay what kind of ... "personality"? How can you go to what ... is not ?! belay .

                        And such "accusations" are a standard technique for liars, when they are caught in a lie - to go over to the identity of the one who revealed their lie.
                        disgrace ...

                        I urge you to carefully hack into your forehead the testimonies from the ISTMAT website about how in PEACEFUL time in the middle of Europe in the middle of the 20th century, in terrible agony, many MILLIONS died of hunger when people ate their children, corpses and patal.
                      16. -1
                        5 August 2021 12: 42
                        you are a liar: the source is given

                        wassat cited source to source? lol
                        You are a liar in that the source you indicated allegedly contains documents for all those years that you indicated.
                        the instructions of the Istmat Source are enough for you and these documents are there

                        I checked - no. You lied.
                        does not want to swear to read all 30 thousand docks, as he cheekily lied here.

                        Leave the kindergarten with vows to others, even on the little fingers "make up-make up" offer laughing
                        Normal adults do not swear, but prove, confirm. So prove it. How this can be done is also written.
                      17. -1
                        5 August 2021 13: 11
                        [quote = Nefarious skeptic] cited source to source? [/ quote]
                        belay SOURCE Eastmath [quote = Vile skeptic] You are a liar in the fact that in the source you indicated there are supposedly documents for all those years that you indicated. [/ Quote]
                        you are a liar in that you allegedly read 30 thousand docks.

                        there are documents there, as well as in a bunch of other sources.

                        If a person offers to show them, I will show them, but the specified is enough for you to DRIVE the terrible truth [quote = Vile skeptic] I checked - no.
                        you are lying, there is [quote = Vile skeptic] Kindergarten with vows leave to others
                        . [/ Quote]
                        weakling. Yes
                        Rather, you lied.
                      18. -2
                        5 August 2021 13: 43
                        SOURCE Istmath

                        You are told - after checking it turned out that in the source you indicated there are no documents for all those years that you wrote. You lied.
                        you are a liar in that you allegedly read 30 thousand docks

                        Prove it. You can not? Then who are you to blame me?
                      19. -1
                        5 August 2021 13: 47
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You are told - after checking it turned out that in the source you indicated there are no documents for all those years that you wrote

                        you are answered: you lied that you checked 30 thousand docks in two days, and the documents are there.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Then who are you to blame me?

                        I am your conscience Yes
                      20. -2
                        5 August 2021 14: 21
                        you are answered: you lied that you checked 30 thousand docks in two days, and the documents are there.

                        1) It takes two hours to check 30 thousand documents on Istmat, what two days are there laughing What, in your head does not fit how can this be? tongue
                        2) After checking the Istmath, it turned out that there were no documents for all the years you indicated. You lied.
                        3) If you claim that there are documents, submit the documents. For each specified year. tongue
                        I am your conscience

                        Thank God no.
                      21. -1
                        6 August 2021 07: 30
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        1) It takes two hours to check 30 thousand documents on Istmat, what two days are there

                        A.1 To check, it is necessary read the content of each document.
                        Therefore, you are again a liar.

                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        2) After checking the Istmath, it turned out that there were no documents for all the years you indicated. You lied.

                        See A1. You're lying..
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        3) If you claim that there are documents, submit the documents. ...

                        A.2 The source is indicated.

                        PS I see that it will not reach you in any way and you, like a parrot, have been repeating the same thing for days.

                        Therefore, if you again decide to write this, then immediately read P 1 and P 2, but you are tired of me.
                      22. -1
                        6 August 2021 10: 44
                        To check, you need to read the contents of each document.

                        Only for a person who does not know about the existence of html code editors and descriptors in hypertext markup languages lol
                        You're lying

                        Unsubstantiated statement. Personal character. In other words, slander.
                        Source indicated.

                        Source verified. After checking the source, it turned out that there were no documents for all the years you indicated. You lied.
        3. -4
          2 August 2021 14: 35
          I read the article. The article is accurate, balanced, wonderful and timely, relevant. Many thanks to Evgeny Fedorov for her! good smile Perhaps, I disagree only with the fact that “Russians have ceased to be treated as second-class people,” I believe that the dismissive attitude has remained. Yes, it cannot be otherwise with constant American snobbery!

          I also read the comments. He was not particularly surprised either. There are few positive comments from smart, sober and objective people. Basically - various nagging, speculation, distortion and false accusations of constant critics of everything Russian. Unless they were surprised by their small number and some restraint. I believe this is due to the ongoing - as they say - now undergoing a VO audit. Apparently, the most zealous are warned, sent to the ban (I wonder which one: temporary or permanent?), And the majority hid, hiding in caches, holes, corners, from where they fly out from time to time, in order to silently throw minuses to the unwanted and hide again.

          This relative silence is somewhat surprising: after all, even last year before the voting of amendments to the Constitution of Russia and the election of the President of Belarus, many VO activists acted extremely actively and openly. And then the elections to the State Duma are on the nose - and silence ...

          To be honest, I am amazed at either the passivity or the laziness of the Russian counterintelligence officers. After all, when attentive studying the comments on some articles of the VO, one can identify so many members of the Russian "fifth column" and agents of the Western special services! I emphasizeI'm not talking about Russian patriots acting for Russia, Russians and speaking with reasonable and objective criticism of weaknesses and authorities. It's about enemies of Russia and Russians.

          Returning to the last part of the article, I want to note an interesting feature of today's US policy against Russia: today they support those against whom they opposed in the 90s - leftists (not to be confused with the left!). Paradox? Not at all - Americans always support those who go against the unwanted power and weaken it. And those who act today against the Russian government, willingly or unwillingly, are acting in concert with the Americans.
        4. 0
          3 August 2021 22: 07
          And who then fought with Germany in 41-45? Apparently the NKVD officers, in between shootings. And the atomic bomb and Gagarin Yu.A. were launched into space by the bloody tyrant Stalin and Beria personally, washing down the campaign with the fresh blood of young children. Do you want to remember the reign of Labeled and EBN?
      3. +5
        2 August 2021 09: 33
        Quote: Gardamir
        As for Putin and his United Russia. compare what was done from 1918 to 1939 and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021.

        Please answer frankly and directly: in what period would you personally prefer to live, in 1918-1939 or in 2000-2021?
        1. -3
          2 August 2021 09: 57
          An interesting question I like to read books about the priest.
          1. +6
            2 August 2021 09: 59
            Quote: Gardamir
            Interest Ask

            The answer to which you have not yet given.
        2. +13
          2 August 2021 10: 48
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Please answer frankly and directly: in what period would you personally prefer to live, in 1918-1939 or in 2000-2021?

          What was the choice? In 1918 there was a Civil War and complete devastation. There was no war in 2000. The gold-oil rain began. From which the people got a little more than nothing.

          But the starting positions were diametrically opposite. The Bolsheviks created a superpower from an agrarian country that won the Second World War. And the tsarek, without any war, happily ate the Soviet legacy, warmed his hands in the rain, profiled sports, space and steadily rolls the country downhill.

          When the king is so good, even children will not be born!
          But for the uryaklov, this is not a problem at all. They generally believe that this does not depend on welfare at all, referring to some sick countries of Europe. They say that blue children will not be born either! And the "whining" about the problem of poverty of Russian families and single mothers is, for the Zaputins, an attack on their permanent idol. No more.
          1. +2
            2 August 2021 10: 50
            Quote: Stas157
            In 1918 there was a Civil War and complete devastation. There was no war in 2000. The gold-oil rain began. From which the people got a little more than nothing.

            That is, you would prefer to live in the period 1918-1939? Or is it 2000-2021?
            1. +1
              2 August 2021 10: 58
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              That is, you would prefer to live in the period 1918-1939? Or is it 2000-2021?

              Do you only send people back to the past? Is there an option - to the future ?? Where there is no tsar and his friends, and in Russia again a just society, moving towards socialism?
              1. 0
                2 August 2021 11: 00
                Can you answer? In what period would you personally prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021? Is this such a difficult question?
                1. 0
                  2 August 2021 11: 06
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Can you answer? ... Is this really such a difficult question?

                  For me, yes! I am very interested in details. Do you send only one or can the whole family and relatives and friends take it? I can't fade without them! From Putin's paradise!
                  And as an option - with the future? It would suit me better. But this is under discussion!))
                  1. -2
                    2 August 2021 11: 07
                    I have no more questions.
                    Superfluous confirmation that how to reason, so only EdRo can be accused of demagoguery, and as it comes to specifics, so few people will get a clear answer from anyone.
                    1. -4
                      2 August 2021 11: 09
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      as it comes to specifics, so few people will get a clear answer.

                      Oh, let's be specific! When do we start?))
                      1. +3
                        2 August 2021 11: 10
                        I have already asked you my question.
                2. +2
                  2 August 2021 16: 05
                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  Can you answer? In what period would you personally prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021? Is this such a difficult question?

                  In my opinion, they have already answered repeatedly, or are you all so narrow-minded in the EP?
                  1. +1
                    2 August 2021 16: 09
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    In my opinion, they have already answered repeatedly, or are you all so narrow-minded in the EP?

                    Probably for the same reason that all hyperpatriots are so boorish.
                    Until now, no one except paul3390 answered me anything intelligible. Maybe you will be honored?
                    What period would you prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021?
                    1. +3
                      3 August 2021 10: 33
                      Good question. With one question you put many VO commentators in a very uncomfortable position. They cannot answer honestly, convictions do not allow, so they spin like snakes in a frying pan.
                3. 0
                  2 August 2021 20: 55
                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  Can you answer? In what period would you personally prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021? Is this such a difficult question?

                  Of course, I can answer you ... it is always better for a person to live ... in more comfortable conditions ... and the current period is more comfortable ... but it was not Putin who created this comfort, but the Soviet regime ... and the general world progress ... Putin, on the contrary, headed for Tsarist agrarian Russia, where the percentage of literate citizens was extremely low and did not exceed 14% ..
            2. 0
              2 August 2021 18: 56
              That is, you would prefer to live in the period 1918-1939? Or is it 2000-2021?

              Why are you asking such uncomfortable but obvious questions?
              For example 1980-2000 or 2000-2021?
              And even more interesting 2000-2021 or 2021-2040? laughing
              1. 0
                2 August 2021 19: 17
                Quote: bk316
                And even more interesting 2000-2021 or 2021-2040?

              2. 0
                2 August 2021 20: 20
                Quote: bk316
                For example 1980-2000 or 2000-2021?

                Are there no other dates? For example 1965-1985?
                In addition, all zaputintsy stupidly ignore scientific and technological progress, in which the life of the next generation should a priori get better. But for some reason, the food basket has become worse than 40 years ago. Yes, the label got brighter, as did the ads, but the products got worse.
                And so yes, just a little more, and in the era of serfdom you will begin to send. laughing
                1. +3
                  2 August 2021 20: 44
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  But for some reason, at the same time, the food basket has become worse than 40 years ago.

                  I remember the shops 30 years ago and did not dare to dream of what is now then.
                  1. -3
                    2 August 2021 21: 20
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    I remember shops 30 years ago

                    Yes, it happened 30 years ago. But this was not because the system was bad, but because the USSR fell into the systemic trap of the West. And he directed all his resources to the arms race. And you need to compare not with decline, but with years of prosperity, this is the end of the 60s, 70s and the beginning of the 80s.
                    1. +1
                      3 August 2021 07: 55
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And you need to compare not with decline, but with years of prosperity, this is the end of the 60s, 70s and the beginning of the 80s.

                      what, in, "dawn"? belay
                      By the beginning of 1980, people had nothing to eat - this was recognized by the party itself, FORCED to announce the "Food Program" and this despite the fact that the import of grain for foreign currency increased by TEN times!

                      The trap of the West did not allow the country with the largest arable land in the world to feed itself and not lose a THIRD his harvest?
                    2. +1
                      3 August 2021 19: 14
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      But this was not because the system was bad, but because the USSR fell into the systemic trap of the West. And he directed all his resources to the arms race.

                      The West also armed itself, so what?
                      1. -2
                        3 August 2021 21: 14
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The West also armed itself, so what?

                        The West was arming itself at the expense of the dollar emission, did you not know? wink It is necessary to learn history, and not to earn your 30 pieces of silver for drowning Putin here.
                        The West won the arms race with bucks, for which the whole world was paying, and skillful show-off.
                      2. +2
                        3 August 2021 21: 23
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The West was arming itself at the expense of the dollar emission, did you not know?

                        The USSR was printing as much money as it wanted, they didn’t know?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The West won the arms race with the bucks, for which the whole world was paying

                        AND? The fact that the USSR invested a lot of resources is unknown what is whose problem?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        and not for drowning Putin here to earn their 30 pieces of silver

                        Have you already spent yours for Navalny?
                      3. -2
                        4 August 2021 06: 31
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The USSR was printing as much money as it wanted, they didn’t know?

                        If you don't be blunt, but think, then any person will understand what I mean. All world settlements are in dollars, while the ruble has always been only the domestic currency.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Have you already spent yours for Navalny?

                        I have repeatedly said that I am not a supporter of the pedal, although I like his investigations.
                        But it doesn't matter to you, does it? wink
                      4. +3
                        4 August 2021 19: 32
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        All world settlements are in dollars, while the ruble has always been only the domestic currency

                        AND? These are the problems of the USSR, which agreed to this.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I have repeatedly said that I am not a supporter of the pedal, although I like his investigations

                        That is, formally against, but in fact for.
                2. +1
                  3 August 2021 07: 29
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In addition, all zaputintsy stupidly ignore scientific and technological progress, in which the life of the next generation should a priori get better.

                  voto: even in 1933, people should not have eaten their children a priori, if this did not even exist in 1900
        3. +2
          2 August 2021 13: 14
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Please answer frankly and directly: in what period would you personally prefer to live, in 1918-1939 or in 2000-2021?

          Then you will answer frankly and directly: "Could you have been born if it were not for the period from 1917 to 1941 in the USSR?"
          And you do not mind the fact that for 30 years the population of Russia cannot even approach the size of 1990, and will never approach the ethnic composition?
          And there is one more question, but the topic is so delicate that, perhaps, I will not ask it.
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 13: 55
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Then you will answer frankly and directly: "Could you have been born if it were not for the period from 1917 to 1941 in the USSR?"

            The answer is: unlikely.
            In what period would you prefer to live, 1918-1939 or 2000-2021?
        4. +3
          2 August 2021 15: 26
          In 1939. Without a doubt.
          1. 0
            2 August 2021 15: 43
            Quote: paul3390
            In 1939. Without a doubt.

            On the eve of the war, that is? But why not 1918?
            1. +4
              2 August 2021 15: 49
              In 39 it was somehow easier .. But there is a reasonable counter question - will I get there with my modern knowledge, or from scratch? The choice depends on this ..
              1. +2
                2 August 2021 16: 04
                If you were born only in 1939, then no amount of modern knowledge will help you. It's another matter if in 1918.
                1. +5
                  2 August 2021 16: 08
                  You asked about living, not being born? Actually - I mean not some technical knowledge that can influence history, but knowledge of how the future will develop .. I would like to catch certain events and some periods of our history .. In particular, post-war. I think it was the happiest and most optimistic time .. We won a terrible war, and it seemed that a bright future was already very close .. Created by our hands ..
                  1. +1
                    2 August 2021 16: 13
                    Quote: paul3390
                    You asked about living, not being born?

                    You asked about modern knowledge.
                    Actually - I mean not some technical knowledge that can influence history, but knowledge of how the future will develop .. I would like to catch certain events and some periods of our history .. In particular, post-war.

                    If you, as you yourself indicated, would like to be born in 1939, then by the end of the war you would be only six years old.
                    Would you like to be personally involved in the war?
                    What kind of post-war events would you like to see, given that by the end of the war you would have been only six years old?
                    1. +5
                      2 August 2021 16: 16
                      You completely confused me .. Initially I asked what year I would like to live - I answered. Then state the questions more clearly ..

                      In the war - of course I would take part. For the Soviet Motherland - how not to fight?
                      1. +1
                        2 August 2021 16: 33
                        Here is your comment
                        In 1939. Without a doubt.

                        In response to my question
                        in what period would you personally prefer to live, in 1918-1939 or in 2000-2021?

                        How can you get confused in this?

                        I would like to clarify, at what age would you like to live in 1939?
                      2. +3
                        2 August 2021 16: 39
                        Once again - you did not specify at what age I would like to be in what year? If the year of birth - then 1918. If the year where I was transferred in today's form - 1939.
                      3. +1
                        2 August 2021 16: 48
                        Gardamir's Initial Commentary
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        As for Putin and his United Russia. compare what was done from 1918 to 1939 and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021.

                        I meant when you, at your current age, so to speak, would prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021?
                      4. -1
                        2 August 2021 19: 18
                        I meant when you, at your current age, so to speak, would prefer to live: 1918-1939 or 2000-2021?
                        That is, a modern person accustomed to television. smartphone. postponed to 1939? I hope you will not prove that Stalin banned the Internet.
                      5. +1
                        2 August 2021 19: 44
                        Sapienti sat.
                      6. +1
                        2 August 2021 19: 52
                        Sapienti sat.
                        Come on, come on. For your trolling, have you forgotten how it all started? It was about the fact that the current, the best ruler of the millennium. And if I choose this time, not 1939, thereby I admit that now is better. This is so funny.
                      7. +1
                        2 August 2021 19: 54
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        Come on, come on. For your trolling, have you forgotten how it all started? It was about the fact that the current, the best ruler of the millennium. And if I choose this time, not 1939, thereby I admit that now is better. This is so funny.

        5. +1
          3 August 2021 07: 26
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Please answer frankly and directly: in what period would you personally prefer to live, in 1918-1939 or in 2000-2021?

          Yes, he will not answer, like other adherents of 1918-1939, so as not to look like a complete otom: they are ready to sacrifice the necessary sacrifices from here, their warm apartments, with freedoms and full shops and, of course, only ALIEN's lives.
      4. +9
        2 August 2021 09: 55
        The message of the article. The homeland is in danger! All to protect the king from the insidious State Department! Let's help our breadwinner get re-elected (who the hell knows what time) in 2024! (Maybe the retirement age will also raise!) Restriction of citizens in their rights and in obtaining information is good !! This is salvation from America's evil democratic values!

        Nothing new, everything is like in an old, worn-out training manual.
        1. +2
          2 August 2021 14: 21
          They write that last Saturday in Doha, a secret meeting of representatives of the German authorities and the Taliban, organized by the German special services, took place.
          Interestingly, radio "Echo of Berlin" will tell you that the German authorities met with terrorists? Or is it different?
      5. +10
        2 August 2021 10: 04
        Quote: Gardamir
        Yeltsin's resignation was not particularly expected,
        the author is seen by an employee of the State Department. he is told there what they are waiting for, and what they themselves are organizing.
        ..... let's compare what was done from 1918 to 1939. and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021. But then Soviet Russia had much more enemies.
        How can you compare, dear, positive and negative? But I agree with you in principle. I would say otherwise. Compare the 30 years of the Russian Federation from the beginning of the establishment (as Medvedev said --- Russia is a young country) and 30 years from the creation of the USSR. But you can take for comparison and other 30 years of the USSR. 1945 to 1975.
        In any case, the comparison is in favor of the USSR. And if you take into account the different points of reference ...
        1. +6
          2 August 2021 10: 12
          I agree, your dates are more accurate.
          1. +8
            2 August 2021 11: 04
            I like reading about post-revolutionary times. And I am always amazed --- such an upsurge! After all, hunger, typhus, everything was destroyed, an absolute shortage of everything --- food, housing, building materials ...
            There were not enough workers, specialists, engineers ... ... railway workers. They rejected the idea of ​​a world revolution, where Russia is a raw material appendage. They began to build socialism in a separate country. Built!
            We survived, got up, knew that there would be war and prepared for it.
          2. 0
            3 August 2021 14: 43
            hi Greetings! I thought that I could quote lines from the poem KOMSOMOLIYA, Bezymenskooo. But he hasn't returned to the city yet. This poem is about the years after the revolution, how they lived, worked, studied. And Bezymensky conveyed that horror, those hardships. Although, of course, he did not think about it. He wrote about youth. How they live and win every day
      6. +2
        2 August 2021 11: 06
        But there was an ideology ...
        1. +1
          2 August 2021 11: 29
          Quote: Tank jacket
          But there was an ideology ...

          So it is now! Is not it so?

          Fursenko announced that the goal of Russian education is to raise the ideal consumer. Egoist. And you don't have to go far for examples. In the power of others, there is no such thing. And Putin declared patriotism as a national idea.

          But the main thing here is the correct understanding of this. The main Russian patriots have clearly understood this. Really - the more you love the king and closer to him, the more you are a patriot. And accordingly - more benefits are transferred. The second person in the state especially knows a lot about this.
          Cast in stone: "Oil and gas are not our advantages (and what is connected with the Motherland). Our advantage is Putin, and we must protect him."
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 13: 15
            Where then is the Russophobia of Akhidzhakova in Sovremennik, Venik on Matza's Ukhe, Serebrennikov and others? Or is this below?

            1. +3
              2 August 2021 14: 13
              “The Insider editor-in-chief Roman Dobrokhotov was searched in the libel case. opposition journalists who head the "investigative" publication "Insider" in a pronounced opposition to the Russian authorities. After all, this resource has long been known as a "flushing tank" of Western special services, through which they throw anti-Russian disinformation materials into the Russian-speaking environment, as, for example, in the case of the Buk provocation in Donbass. I have a question: “Why is such a committed anti-Russian resource and its employees continued to function freely on the territory of the Russian Federation for so long? "(c)
          2. +3
            2 August 2021 13: 23
            Quote: Stas157
            The second person in the state especially knows a lot about this.

            The speaker of the State Duma is the fourth person in the state after the prime minister and the head of the Federation Council (if you mean that):

            It turns out that oil and gas may fall in price ... lol
          3. +2
            2 August 2021 19: 08
            Quote: Stas157
            Fursenko announced the goal of Russian education

            The gangster chaos of the 90s was staged by people who studied in the USSR.
            1. 0
              2 August 2021 20: 23
              Quote: Dart2027
              The gangster chaos of the 90s was staged by people who studied in the USSR.

              And those who won this lawlessness are now in power. wink
              1. +3
                2 August 2021 20: 42
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And those who

                born in the Soviet Union, made in the USSR. Everything, all the top.
      7. 0
        2 August 2021 19: 03
        Quote: Gardamir
        But then Soviet Russia had much more enemies.

        Show the USSR on the map?
    2. +5
      2 August 2021 11: 50
      About Yeltsin:

      The main thing in unscrupulous propaganda is not to appeal to critical thinking, but to put pressure on the most basic fears. This is how the slogans "Vote or lose" and "Buy food for the last time" appeared, hinting at return of the troubled times of the late 80s and the risk of civil war in the country.

      About Putin. The main underlying fear is return of the 90s and the loss of the current coveted stability. Why is the stabilizer valuable? Nothing. There is simply no success. Yes, in general, it is not necessary. The dubious "stability" idea doesn't work badly at all!
    3. +1
      2 August 2021 14: 33

      A member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and blogger-hypozhor Nikolai Bondarenko, it turns out, does not consider Crimea a part of Russia. To a simple and clear question in a video interview: "Whose Crimea?" - at first he freezes for five seconds, depicting with grimaces the intensified work of thought, and then gives out that the question put him in a dead end. Further quote: “Do you want me to say: Crimea is ours? I won't say no. "
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 19: 10
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Further quote: “Do you want me to say: Crimea is ours? I won't say no. "

        He also argues later that the annexation of Crimea is very bad, because it increases patriotism, and this is bad for revolutionaries

        (from 1:50)
  2. +4
    2 August 2021 05: 31
    ..... By the end of the 90s, congressmen declared the internal affairs of Russia to be the sphere of national interests ...
    They have such areas all over the world. On this basis, they interfere in absolutely everything.
    1. -1
      2 August 2021 09: 22
      Quote: Reptiloid
      They have such areas all over the world. On this basis, they interfere in absolutely everything.

      Quite right. Personally, I have no doubts about the words of the head of the SVR (video from the 8th minute):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu9jB7iVtB4&t=480s
      1. +3
        2 August 2021 09: 54
        hi hi I have not watched the video yet. It always infuriated me that how many times other countries far from them would proclaim their zone of interests am am and believe that everyone should agree and tremble.
        1. -2
          2 August 2021 10: 12
          Quote: Reptiloid
          and believe that everyone should agree and tremble.

          Only strength is respected in the World. Russia announced its red lines. The British immediately decided to check it out (incident in the Black Sea). They were rebuffed and concluded that Russia has a red line, but how strong it is will be constantly checked ...
          Ours is what we can protect, and what we cannot - is not ours.
          This applies to both us and them.
  3. +5
    2 August 2021 05: 57
    Sometimes, you come to the site and drink a beer. Talk to your friends. Everyone is funny. Now everyone is gloomy. And immediately with the question, "For whom did you put the bird?" How many times did I put the bird, and then make an appointment with him. And then once he put a bird for one respectable person, but if you don't look on TV, he is asleep. Summer has come. Many fighters for the construction of a new state have dispersed to the place where everything has already been built, and it is comfortable.
    1. -2
      2 August 2021 09: 23
      Quote: nikvic46
      Sometimes, you come to the site and drink a beer.

      On the territory of the RSFSR, only there it was possible to drink this very beer, it was even possible to eat, unprecedented, a sandwich with ham.
      The Union republics were snickering, and they were not surprised with such treats.
      1. +1
        2 August 2021 09: 45
        Quote: bober1982
        On the territory of the RSFSR, only there it was possible to drink this very beer




        1. -1
          2 August 2021 09: 53
          You, Boris, did not live in the "homeland" of Zhiguli beer, in the city of Kuibyshev (now Samara), you do not know what it was like to drink beer.
          You, Boris, have not seen life!
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 10: 01
            Quote: bober1982
            You, Boris, have not seen life!

            Before the army, I lived in Belarus (Balbasovo - the flyers know). There were no problems with beer, but I didn’t like it - any, and now I don’t drink alcoholic beverages for 10 years already.
            1. -2
              2 August 2021 10: 14
              To close the beer topic, in Belarus in those years there was a little communism, as well as in other republics.
              Where did they get such hatred for Russia.
              1. +1
                2 August 2021 10: 16
                Quote: bober1982
                Where did they get such hatred for Russia.

                Maybe because communism in the former Soviet Union ended at the expense of Russia?
                They tore the little one away from the tit, so they are offended.
                1. +4
                  2 August 2021 11: 10
                  ..... tore the little one away from the chick ...

                  They took away adults, able-bodied, quite mature children ... It's a shame for them, yes.
  4. +9
    2 August 2021 06: 10
    The author, do not worry, our people are conscious, they will vote for the United Russia Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the SR, they will receive an approximately equal number, the Liberal Democratic Party, a little less, but everyone will pass the 5% barrier, there will be no "newcomers" in this pool. Believe me, the efforts of the Americans We all understand perfectly well that the Americans are to blame for the rise in prices and for the rest of the troubles too. Let us rally, defend the gains of democracy. And American provocations will not pass. You can not agitate. smile
    1. Cat
      +2
      2 August 2021 08: 43
      You don't have to agitate.

      Come on. We don't care - but the author is pleased ...
  5. +12
    2 August 2021 06: 13
    Mmm ... judging by what I have read, the autumn aggravation of the Solovievskys is already gaining momentum. lol Do not fuss under the client, the State Department here is perhaps the last in line ..! laughing
    1. 0
      2 August 2021 08: 19
      Will we have "Pasaremos"?
    2. AUL
      +1
      2 August 2021 08: 38
      Quote: Pilot
      Judging from what I have read, the autumn aggravation of the Solovievskys is already gaining momentum.

      And I'm surprised that election articles began to appear so late! Look, burned-out lamps in streetlights on the street and then began to change! lol
      1. +4
        2 August 2021 09: 16
        Quote from AUL
        And I'm surprised that election articles began to appear so late!
        Duc was at the top of the thought to cancel / reschedule the elections because of kovidischa, apparently I did not let go to the last ... The pretext is what a convenient one with a deplorable rating, but apparently the couple did not grow together (or grow together) once their propagandists were released from the chain.
        1. +1
          2 August 2021 13: 34
          Quote: Pilot
          Duc was at the top of the thought to cancel / postpone the elections because of kovidischa, apparently I did not let go to the last ... The pretext is what a convenient with a deplorable rating, but apparently the couple did not grow together (or grow together) once their propagandists were released from the chain

          If you can see, the inflation rate in the country is higher than projected. Food prices jump like ... on the Maidan, and the dollar froze at 73-74 rubles per dollar. Let's see how he climbs up after the elections. Therefore, there are many prepositions, and even more (obscene) words.
          ==========
          Maybe it was worth canceling the three-day clownery, granting amnesty to the guilty without guilt and holding the elections on September 19 under the supervision of cameras and observers?
          I'm just wondering what Mr. Volodin can say to his potential voters?
  6. +5
    2 August 2021 06: 21
    In order to compromise the parliamentary elections, the lists will include candidates who will not pass in advance ...

    Who must pass will pass!
    Who should not, he will not pass!
    A straight reinforced concrete slogan turns out ...
  7. +11
    2 August 2021 06: 28
    In a system where only the rich can be engaged in politics (what do they have that we have), there is no question of serving the interests of the people. We are only a labor resource and a slave force for them. So you can even tear your throats until you blue in the face for the PR of the dignity of the next moneybag, he will forget about you the next morning, because you need to work out the interests of those who give money to (elections). Moreover, there will definitely not be a tick against everyone.
    1. +6
      2 August 2021 10: 26
      Quote: evgen1221
      In a system where only the rich can engage in politics ...

      of course not. That is why we hear later from the chosen ones
      the state owes you nothing
      or about the fact that someone has a small pension - bezdelniki and tune-eaters. Or as in the Altai Territory
      .... for the poor to turn off the electricity for the night ...
      or about teachers
      .... do not deserve more than 9000 .....

      True, then it turns out that this is all taken out of context ...
      I wonder if it will be possible to say again in September
      ..... EP zhahnula everyone .....
  8. +3
    2 August 2021 06: 48
    And what surprised the author so much about the US interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation? ... The powers have been fighting for influence in other countries for more than 2000 years. The usual routine of geopolitics.
    Previously, counterintelligence fought against "vorozhin". Now - "counter-propagandists":
    Everything turned upside down in 2000 with the appearance on the political arena of Vladimir Putin
    bully
    If there were fewer anonymous "difficult decisions" in the Russian Federation and more undoubted successes, then the Americans would be "more modest" on the borders of the former USSR.
  9. +3
    2 August 2021 07: 52
    It was then that overseas political strategists tested a new tool for Russians - the Internet.
    It's funny. I already saw it somewhere on the net, now I remembered it, I decided to try it myself: I entered the phrase "spring in Russia" in Yandex and Google. And then he introduced the phrase "spring in the USA". And figs to me who will now prove that Google is out of politics))
  10. +6
    2 August 2021 08: 01
    It turns out, if during Yeltsin's time, the USA was "drowned" against the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but now it's the other way around? Meaning, for all sorts of "apples and pears" to "drown", whose "yield" is below 5%?
    1. 0
      2 August 2021 19: 13
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      It turns out, if during Yeltsin's time, the USA was "drowned" against the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but now it's the other way around?

      Biden said it bluntly. And when there were recent riots with the bulk, the fans of the USSR unanimously drowned for them and were outraged by the police.
      1. 0
        7 August 2021 15: 58
        The question is that those who allegedly drown for the communists on the site are not at all real communists, but adherents of Baba Yaga, who is always against. - they themselves did not realize. And now they are stepping on the same rake, drugged or paid for!
        1. +1
          7 August 2021 16: 03
          Quote: VORON538
          If only they were against

          There are those too.
  11. +10
    2 August 2021 08: 51
    The article competently takes the reader into the area of ​​confrontation between the US elite and ours, but in fact, neither one nor that one does not reflect the interests of 95% of Russian citizens. Our government is working no worse than the State Department is already underway to clean up the Duma from pro-people's deputies: Grudinin, Platoshkin, Bondarenko. So Putin's team is just as anti-people.
    1. +6
      2 August 2021 09: 40
      Quote: Alex66
      cleaning of the Duma from pro-people's deputies: Grudinin, Platoshkin, Bondarenko.

      Common folk sirudinin ???
      1. +4
        2 August 2021 10: 36
        Quote: Lesovik
        ..... Grudinin common people ???

        His personal fortune is about 10 billion rubles.
      2. +5
        2 August 2021 13: 54
        Quote: Lesovik
        Common folk sirudinin ???

        Quote: Reptiloid
        His personal fortune is about 10 billion rubles.

        Right on Vysotsky:
        Comrades scientists, associate professors with candidates!
        You are worn out with X's, tangled in zeros ...

        And here it is - the declaration of income from the CEC:

        And here is the minister with a hoarse voice:
        The income of the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov in 2018 more than doubled - to 443,38 million rubles from 213,6 million a year earlier ...
        The highest income among members of the government at the end of 2019 was declared by the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov, who earned more 586 million rubles ...
        The highest income among members of the government was declared at the end of 2020 by the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov, who earned 740 million 413 thousand 415 rubles and 65 kopecks...
        He has neither a state farm nor an enterprise. They have not built schools with kindergartens and do not live in the same house with their employees ...
        1. 0
          2 August 2021 14: 20
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Income of the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov

          I don't remember Manturov among the candidates for any elective post ...
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Right on Vysotsky:

          Exactly. When they discussed here some kind of palace, or not a palace, the owner of which is either Putin or not Putin, no one took into account his income statement. But Grudinin's declaration is an argument ...
        2. +1
          7 August 2021 16: 01
          Let's say there are such incomes there. But Manturov is not a candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but Grudinin-communist-billionaire-capitalist? Although yes, I voted for Grudinin. But we must be honest, not the same communists that a hundred years ago. And the second - = the poor will not get into power in Russia.
  12. +1
    2 August 2021 09: 16
    Yes, there is nothing to steam about. Neither the State Department, nor even the Apocalypse can interfere with the choice of the next thieves and bandits ...
  13. +7
    2 August 2021 09: 37
    Given the gradual evolution and tightening of the United States' policy in shaking Russian statehood, large-scale provocations can be expected in the fall.

    About how! belay Never before, and now again?
    Wet dreams of our "reformers" on equal rights with the sovereign, to rob the controlled peoples have not come true? Are American "colleagues" squeezing out "overpriced"? Despite all the instructions for the destruction of Soviet industry, energy, science, education, medicine and other spheres of life? What a shame!
    Well, now, yes. It is necessary to protect the plundered national property from "business colleagues" from the American branch. Who is to defend the Russian oligarchy? Get in line, carrots are temporarily cheaper! lol
  14. +1
    2 August 2021 09: 53
    In the minds of citizens, the opinion began to be raised that the local flaky polyclinic and the school that was not painted on time was a direct consequence of state policy.

    And, excuse me, whose policy, then, should the aforementioned phenomena be?
    Well, it goes without saying - the whole article is a foul-smelling propaganda "vyser", which there is neither time nor desire to analyze point by point.
  15. -4
    2 August 2021 09: 54
    The trolls were overexcited again. After an enchanting failure, they ended up with a fighter's trip to the zone that had been crying for him for a long time, they quieted down. And here - a wealth of topics, sarcasm, knowledge of the secret. it means that the money entered the battle again: "And Biden - such a young and young Chubais is ahead." Ahead is another batch of intelligent sarcastic questions - How long ?! and the same dull result.
  16. +1
    2 August 2021 11: 07
    What influence the State Department will have on the elections. If on August 1 the US Embassy went into the regime, diplomat, electrician, plumber, and general public sewer. They have no time for our elections.
  17. 0
    2 August 2021 11: 09
    Quote: Gardamir
    Yeltsin's resignation was not particularly expected,
    the author is seen by an employee of the State Department. he is told there what they are waiting for, and what they themselves are organizing.
    As for Putin and his United Russia. compare what was done from 1918 to 1939 and what was destroyed from 2000 to 2021. But then Soviet Russia had much more enemies.

    But there is one caveat ...
    There was an ideology. Sabotage and sabotage were punished.
  18. -1
    2 August 2021 11: 37
    And, another election campaign.

    Allegedly, it was not Chubais with the CIA agents in the environment that brought VVP to power.
    Allegedly, the Amerovsky and other presidents did not ride cars with GDP until the age of 14, did not take pictures with the Hamburgs, did not keep the oil price for GDP 3-4 times higher than for Boris ... they did not defiantly drain the opposition .. ..

    The memory is short, it's all "forgotten" now ....

    Now "all the upcoming hype is aimed precisely at discrediting the presidential elections" - they have been repeating for many years now.

    Do not let the Core immortalize calmly for life. But money, bribes, corruption - everyone loves silence ... so that 99,9%, and remotely ...
  19. +3
    2 August 2021 13: 29
    It is clear that the Americans do not respect us and can do anything, up to organizing a mess in the Black Sea, for example, similar to a provocation in the Gulf of Tonkin, after which the United States began a war against Vietnam (today is the anniversary of this provocation, committed by the Americans on August 2, 1964 of the year).
    However, Russia is not Vietnam, and can transfer the war from the Black Sea to the Gulf of Mexico, and therefore the emphasis is probably on the covert work of holding "its own" in the State Duma, including them in the so-called "party lists" (generally incomprehensible to anyone), etc. .p. in order to further cultivate popular discontent already in the direction necessary for the Americans and their ilk within the framework of the "elected government". Let's recall the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, when rumors about the superiority of the German army, disinformation about the provocative actions of Germany first spread in the border western regions of the USSR, agents of influence, spies and hidden saboteurs penetrated, breaking communications with the center, up to the spread of false directives and orders, etc. .NS. actions. And only a few hours before the start of hostilities, the Germans launched regular reconnaissance units of the Wehrmacht into the territory of the USSR, disguised as border troops and units of the Red Army. Uncertainty and incomprehensibility of what is happening around gives rise to fears and suspicions, demoralizes and discourages people.
    At least the names of these deputies were published somewhere with their "track record", their achievements, statements, etc., who are they, what are they? Only one hype around the bush. Here we are no longer talking about personal data, but about people going into big politics, in fact, into the leadership of the entire country. In my opinion, our people, unlike the United States, are literate people and can figure out what's what and why, what they need and why. In the end, the tragedy of 1991, the events that preceded it and those that followed it, many remember and understand what can happen due to choosing the wrong path of development.
  20. +2
    2 August 2021 14: 34
    What kind of Americans? What provocations? Nobody is interested in these elections .. Even the VTsIOM-controlled one declares this.
    VTsIOM saw a decline in political activity to a minimum in 17 years
    In 2021, only 22% of Russians declared participation in the elections, in 2004 there were 55% of them.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/02/08/2021/61052d699a7947d73c58f35b?from=newsfeed

    Those. less than a quarter of the population is interested in these clowns from the State Duma. The function of a deputy in modern Russia has been reduced to the formal approval of the leader's decisions.
    in '24 there will be more interest, but I am sure that it is also minimal, the clearing has been cleared anyway, and if not Putin, then who? There is not a single worthy, intelligent, decent person in a country of 150 million who would love the Motherland.
    1. +1
      4 August 2021 08: 39
      if not Putin, then who? There is not a single worthy, intelligent, decent person in the country of 150 million who would love the Motherland.
      In a country with a population of 150 million, many people can be found, including those who are worthy, smart, decent, and who love their Motherland.
      The problem is different, how to find someone who would be able to consolidate these 150 million, and especially to consolidate those who have influence on these 150 million. Under the conditions of total pressure (economic, political, psychological, informational) on our country, this is extremely difficult to do.
  21. +3
    2 August 2021 19: 41
    This is how the slogans “Vote or lose” and “Buy food for the last time” appeared, hinting at the return of the troubled times of the late 80s and the risk of civil war in the country.
    There is nothing new under the sun. Now they are frightening with the return of the 90s, if we do not elect to go along with Putin.
    Nemtsov, Navalny, Yashin, Kasparov became real guides of "democratic" values ​​from the White House. Now they have become opinion leaders for young people and an active electorate.
    I doubt that young people know who Kasparov, Nemtsov and Yashin are. Navalny sits in a slammer, and his hamsters did not qualify for a serious protest, either when he was trashed or "trashed", or when he was shut down. So why bet on them, as on Carbonari?
    But for Russian companies this will be a real gift, they will occupy the vacant niche and, in the event of a reverse connection, they will not return.
    And what will the Russian companies advertise? Oil, gas, timber, metal or products from beyond the hillock, including the western one?
    Actually, all the upcoming hype is aimed precisely at discrediting the presidential elections.
    How can you discredit something that already looks like a circus?
  22. +2
    2 August 2021 23: 21
    yandex zen level statics
  23. +1
    3 August 2021 01: 10
    The focus of attention will be on alleged and actual violations in the elections, which should become triggers of mass protests in the country.

    Come on.
    The trigger will be compulsory vaccination.
    A split has already occurred within those who are considered patriots. Some are in favor of vaccination, moreover compulsory - others are against, moreover, because of compulsion.
    ---
    The overwhelming majority of the vaccinated (as well as the unvaccinated) are not specialists in virology, and therefore one part of the vaccinated simply believed the authorities, and the other part (and most) of the vaccinated were forced (which made them unheard of).
    Once again, citizens simply believed or trusted the authorities.
    ---
    And now what will happen to the consciousness of those who trusted (and especially those who were forced) if health problems begin among the vaccinated and their relatives, if vaccination does not help against new mutations, if mass publications about the futility of vaccination begin on the Internet (in the media) (even worse - its harm)? And already publications of this kind are beginning.
    ---
    What will be the reaction of those who trust, and even worse, those who are forced to be vaccinated?
    ---
    Putin everywhere talks about the voluntariness of vaccination, and the government, represented by Mishustin, Golikova, Popova, Murashko, carry out compulsory vaccination.
    Do they not understand that with this coercion they embitter the population? Or are they doing it deliberately?
  24. +1
    3 August 2021 12: 50
    Given the gradual evolution and tightening of the United States' policy in shaking Russian statehood, large-scale provocations can be expected in the fall.
    I hope that we already have a sufficient number of antibodies for striped actions, especially after a striking example of the Square and RB - the vaccine is what we need!
  25. 0
    3 August 2021 12: 57
    Quote: flicker
    Do they not understand that with this coercion they embitter the population? Or are they doing it deliberately?

    You have repeated this statement convincingly several times in various forms. The fact is that all the hype around the crown was created artificially, so you definitely shouldn't take it seriously! The disease exists and will not go anywhere, like the flu, in the past called "Spanish flu", a hundred years ago, which claimed 50 million lives in the world, which is much more than today from the corona! But we do not scream and discuss whether we will be vaccinated against the flu or not, right? We decided to go - let's go. So it should be with the crown, do not give in to the calls of narrow-minded bureaucrats, or ultimatums of owners to their employees - either vaccination, or dismissal! This is stupid and looks like a provocation.
  26. +1
    3 August 2021 13: 00
    Quote: Karabin
    And what will the Russian companies advertise?

    Most likely, we are not talking about advertising as such, but about the entire IT niche in Russia - search engines, maps, etc.
  27. +1
    3 August 2021 13: 03
    Quote: Mishka78
    Those. less than a quarter of the population is interested in these clowns from the State Duma.
    Nevertheless, our life in Russia directly depends on these "clowns from the State Duma"! And what do you suggest in the case you described? Or are you so, as a cue to the public, for the general noise? wink
  28. -1
    7 August 2021 03: 16
    A lot about 33 years and infant mortality ... Famine on the territory of the Russian Empire (USSR) is a regular occurrence every 10-20 years and usually in peasant families they stopped feeding their younger children .. These are the realities of our country. The last famine in 1946 was smoothed out by trophies , and then - the massive replacement of the horse with a cheap technological tractor DT-54 and the plowing of the southern regions of the Kurgan Omsk regions (then for some reason in Kazakhstan) of the Baraba steppes and Altai stopped this series of deaths ... In the future, regularly continuing crop failures led only to the regulation of bread sales Yes, there is a queue of one or two hours in villages and small towns, and two kilograms of bread in hand (for clarity, five modern Russian loaves), alas, a third of the bread for fodder for livestock in a personal backyard ..
  29. +1
    7 August 2021 03: 28
    About politics, excuse the banality, if you do not engage in politics, she will take care of you herself .. Our infantilism in the elections (a general global trend) and leads to the power of various condom.