Who is Agrippa

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Who is Agrippa

Caligula's grandfather, Nero's great-grandfather, Augustus' best friend and faithful deputy, Mark Vipsanius Agrippa is a man whose closeness and relationship with some of the most famous names of the Ancient stories adjoins the fact that his name is little known to the public. Many have heard about the madness of Caligula or Nero, about the "greatness" of Augustus, but the name of Agrippa is often overlooked.

This is even more surprising when you consider the fact that the rebirth of the Roman Republic into an empire under Augustus might not have happened if Agrippa had not been with Augustus. And if it did, then, of course, it would not have reached such a scale.



Agrippa was a warrior, general, and best friend of Augustus. But, most importantly, on the bloodthirsty political scene of Rome, exacerbated after the Civil War during the time of Julius Caesar, Agrippa was betrayed to the limit: never striving for fame, power or wealth for himself.

Youth


Our story begins in the Ides of March 45 BC.

Julius Caesar lies dead, stabbed to death by the senators, at the feet of a statue of Pompey the Great. His heir, then known as Octavian, but from that moment referred to simply as Augustus, was in Apollonia (Macedonia), acting as a kind of local governor, as well as helping the Roman armies prepare for the upcoming invasion of Parthia.

Augustus received the news of the death of Julius Caesar in a letter from his mother Atia, she told him to return to Italy and warned of new acts of violence. After consulting with Agrippa and some other people, Augustus left Greece and landed in Brundisium, where he received two more letters: one from his mother, and the other from his stepfather Philip. Both informed him that he was heir to his great-uncle's immense fortune, and both advised him to be careful.

It is worth going back a little at this stage.

It is not known exactly when and where Agrippa was born. But that was between 64 and 62 BC. e., which makes him roughly the same age as Augustus. The two are believed to have known each other from a young age, although Agrippa came from a family of horsemen, while Augustus was from a senatorial family.

It is believed that during the war of Julius Caesar against Cato in Africa, Agrippa's older brother, who fought on the side of Cato, was captured by the troops of Julius Caesar. The story goes that Augustus asked his great-uncle to release Agrippa's brother, known for his mercy. Julius Caesar agreed and Agrippa's brother was released. This is often seen as a turning point in the relationship between Augustus and Agrippa.

After Augustus secured his fortune and stabilized power in Rome, it was time for him to go on the warpath and crush the conspirators who killed Caesar.

Battles


In the struggle of Augustus with the so-called "republicans", Agrippa did not particularly stand out either as a military leader or as a soldier. However, after the end of this struggle and the division of the Roman Republic, his peculiar path to glory began.

After suppressing some of the Galician tribes and crossing the Rhine for a brief skirmish with some German rebels, Agrippa was called back to Italy to help Augustus. At this moment, Augustus and Antony were in a difficult alliance: Augustus commanded Rome and the eastern half of the empire, and Antony - the west. The conspirators who killed Julius Caesar were dead, but Augustus had another "splinter" - the son of Pompey.

After the death of his father, Sextus Pompey fled to Iberia, where he used money and family ties to create a personal fleet... A pirate king who called himself the son of Neptune, Sextus raided shipments of grain destined for Rome and any ships he could find. He controlled Sicily, Corsica and Sardinia.

After a brief truce between Sextus and Augustus in 39-38 BC. NS. Sextus again began to raid merchant and other Roman ships, in connection with which the stocks of grain in Rome quickly dwindled, which increased the rebellious mood of the townspeople.

Something had to be done.

However, there was a problem: Sextus had been raiding for years, his fleet was huge and, more importantly, experienced. Augustus borrowed several ships from Antony and used his considerable wealth to build several dozen more additional ships, but he was unable to bridge the experience gap. In fact, the only capable general and admiral that Augustus had was Agrippa.

The western part of Italy was not the best place to train a fleet - there were no natural ports there. However, in the Gulf of Naples, Agrippa ordered the digging of a canal that would open the way to Lake Avern, which would allow the crews of the ships to learn, and the fleet itself remained hidden. Also, the slaves were offered freedom in exchange for service, training on mock ships, where they could practice rowing under the command of Agrippa while warships were being built.

This proves that Agrippa was not only incredibly resourceful, but also adept at managing, coordinating, and waging war. Instead of just building and teaching somewhere else, he simply ordered an entire canal to be built.

And this strategy really worked. The entire naval campaign against Sextus ended with the Battle of Navloch in 36 BC. Augustus watched from the shores of Sicily as Agrippa and Sextus fought, each with about 300 ships. With ships of better quality, Agrippa defeated most of Sextus's fleet, allowing the invasion of Sicily.

Sextus was captured in 35 BC. NS. and executed without trial, possibly by order of Antony.

Later, Agrippa also led Augustus' fleet at the Battle of Actium in 31 BC. e., and also, most likely, led the ground forces of Augustus during the campaign against Antony and Cleopatra.

The Battle of Actium is often considered simultaneously one of the most important battles in history and one of the most anti-climatic. It was a real massacre, partly because of the terrible tactical decisions of Antony and Cleopatra, but also partly because of Agrippa's ability to take advantage of their mistakes.

Power


Agrippa fought in many other battles of Augustai, including the Battle of Alexandria in 30 BC. e., in which Antony was killed. Many of Augustus' military victories can be attributed solely to the genius of Agrippa.

This is not to humiliate Augustus - this man was a genius in his own right, but he was a genius of propaganda, administration and behind-the-scenes deals, not war.

Augustus' propaganda talents are actually one of the reasons so few people know about Agrippa. August simply attributed all his victories to himself. This is also one of the reasons Agrippa was so valuable - he didn't seem to mind it.

Agrippa was inundated with money, which he used to build a significant number of public structures, including aqueducts, sewers, baths, and the Pantheon itself. He was loved by the Roman people, but never used it to try to elevate his name or gain additional credentials.

It is believed that he went into a kind of self-imposed exile due to the machinations of Livia, Augustus's wife, who was worried about Agrippa's influence on her husband.

In 18 BC, Agrippa's power was almost equal to that of Augustus, making him the undisputed second most powerful person in the empire. He could veto any decision made by the Senate, even without holding the post of consul.

When he died in 13 BC. e., August declared a month of mourning and ordered the body of Agrippa to be placed in the mausoleum of the emperor himself. Augustus then prepared Agrippa's children for a life of power and wealth, and is believed to have even considered his sons, Lucius and Gaius, as potential heirs. Unfortunately, both died before the emperor himself.
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  1. +12
    1 August 2021 05: 47
    ... even considered his sons, Lucius and Gaius, as potential heirs.

    Then he decided that it was still too much and the children suddenly died. laughing
    ... both died before the emperor himself.

    request Talis est vita ...
    1. +11
      1 August 2021 06: 22
      ... With ships of better quality, Agrippa defeated most of Sextus's fleet, allowing the invasion of Sicily.

      Is this all about Agrippa's "first" fleet?
      Least:
      In the victory over Pompey, ships of increased displacement were used, with an underwater ramming belt made of wood, armed with Agrippa shells.
      Although no one wrote better than A. Stenzel:
      Both fleets stood for a long time, watching each other, and only tried their hand at small skirmishes; finally, Agrippa decided to act. After reconnaissance, he decided to attack the enemy and marched on him with his entire fleet lined up in a deployed front. The enemy, apparently, was only waiting for this, and immediately went out to meet him with the same intention and in the same formation.
      This time, the Roman fleets fought on both sides, and therefore there was no deep or complex combat formation, but there was just that formation that has long been used by all seafaring peoples who have never studied tactics.
      The number of ships involved in the battle is unknown, but the superiority in numbers was on the side of Agrippa; his ships were larger and heavier, partly due to the belt armor, but they were less fast than the ships of Pompey. On deck they had towers, various throwing machines, and their crew was more numerous. Their ramming blow, with their greater mass, was stronger than the enemy's. The hostile ships were smaller and lighter, and therefore faster and more agile, as a result of which they were more suitable for ram attacks and for breaking off oars and rudders; however, the action of their ram was perfectly resisted by the protective belt, and they themselves, due to their lighter design, were less resistant to ramming; for boarding, in view of the smaller number of their crew and the lower height of the sides, they were also less adapted.
      Thus, on the side of Agrippa was not only superiority in the number of ships, but also in their defensive strength and in the power of weapons. Despite this, the outcome of the battle was uncertain for a long time; the commanders of Pompey's ships skillfully took advantage of their maneuvering advantage and managed to disable several of Agrippa's ships, but against their attempts to ram, which was the most dangerous technique, the armor belts proved to be excellent protection. On the other hand, Agrippa and his assistants achieved significant results when they managed to launch a ram, but they harmed the enemy even more with all kinds of throwing projectiles: stones, logs, arrows, spears, which they threw onto the enemy deck from their higher deck. and from even higher deck towers; in addition, they had grappling hooks and stronger crews.
      Finally, Agrippa managed to sink the enemy flagship. Demohar and his crew swam to another ship (boats from the squadron of Pompey went between the battling ships to pick up the sailors), but, nevertheless, he was forced to start a retreat, in which he, apparently, was almost not pursued - information contradictory on this matter. Agrippa lost only five ships, and his enemy - thirty, and was forced to leave the battlefield. Thus, Agrippa won the victory in his first sea battle.

      Hello to Uncle Kostya and all members of the forum!
      1. +11
        1 August 2021 06: 51
        No one wrote better than A. Stenzel:
        A matter of taste ... Shigin Vladimir Vilenovich "Kings of Boarding"
        September 3, 36 BC e., on the appointed day, the fleets converged for the battle. This battle, known as the Battle of Navloh, was distinguished by the use of various types of means of remote destruction, unprecedented in mass scale, the fleets converged, lining up in correct frontal lines. Even in the phase of approaching from their decks and towers, the opponents opened a hurricane of fire at each other, throwing incendiary shells, spears, arrows and stones both with cars and with their own hands. After a short time, the formation of the ships collided. Ramming strikes were inflicted with tremendous force - some fell on the side, others in the epotides, and still others were frontal. These latter did not destroy, as a rule, the hull of the ship, however, from the strongest push, the warriors, as a rule, simply flew from the towers, like many rowers and sailors, who were thrown from their places. As a result, many ships became temporarily incapable of combat - tens and hundreds of people randomly climbed all ship structures, trying to take the proper place for battle or ship control. The role of small auxiliary ships and liburn was very clearly manifested. They darted between the fighting ships and became the main rescue means: many people who found themselves in the water were picked up by them. Many ships deliberately or accidentally missed in a frontal attack and, sailing past each other, literally showered the enemy with spears and projectiles. In some cases, it came to a boarding fight.
        Sextus Pompey moved his fleet towards the Romans from the east along the Sicilian coast. Agrippa, having learned about the movement of the enemy, moved towards him from the west. Realizing that a collision was inevitable, both opponents marched, lining up in advance in battle formations, with a deployed front in two lines. In the early October morning, finding each other, the opponents began a decisive rapprochement, and then, with deafening shouts under the roar of war horns, they rushed into the attack. The first to engage in the catapult, then, as the distance closed, archers, slingers, throwers of spears and burning darts. After that, a general dump began, where each tried to ram the other, break off his oars, and then board.
        1. +10
          1 August 2021 06: 51
          The battle historian writes: “The ships of Pompey went so closely that they could not take advantage of their speed and agility, while the new boarding shells turned out to be very convenient in those cases when ordinary boarding hooks could not reach the enemy, especially since the Pompeians did not have a peak with curved knives at the end, with which it was possible to cut the ropes. The old Roman way of fighting at sea - boarding hand-to-hand combat in connection with the hinged firing of incendiary shells - this time decided the fate of the battle, and of course, in favor of the taller and more powerful ships of Agrippa. "

          During the battle, the Roman leader himself also demonstrated outstanding military talent and the ability to calculate the situation several moves ahead, that is, exactly what distinguishes an outstanding naval commander from a mediocre naval commander.

          Already at the very beginning of the battle, he, having looked around the enemy battle formations and seeing that their front was very constrained and much shorter than his own formation, ordered his left wing to immediately attack the enemy in the flank in order to cover it. The decision is extremely timely and correct! Then, seeing that the coverage of the enemy flank is advancing more slowly than he would like, he timely reinforces the attackers at the expense of the ships of the second (reserve) line.
          1. +9
            1 August 2021 06: 52
            The historian A. A. Khlevov in his work "Sea Wars of Rome" writes: "Within the framework of the battle, all methods of fighting were used. However, as the participants in the battle said, the harpax turned out to be the most effective means of destruction. Agrippa's invention was extremely successful. Means of dealing with it did not exist - this weapon was too unusual and new. It was simply impossible to cut the log with all the desire because of the iron binding. Also, it was not possible to cut the ropes on which it was attached - they began more than one and a half meters from the side, and not a single weapon was able to reach them. Then, however, special "anti-harpax" means in the form of sickle-shaped blades mounted on long handles will be invented and introduced on warships. However, in the battle of Navloh, they, of course, were not yet on the ships.

            However, in a purely empirical way, a certain palliative was found: the Pompeians realized that if you back up, you could prevent the ships from being attracted to each other. However, the Caesarians rowed with all their might, and since the ships, as a rule, had quite comparable power, expressed in "human strength", this equalized the chances. The forces extinguished each other, and the machines pulled the enemy ship with a harpax, after which the boarding followed.

            The first encounter is over. Soon, after rebuilding and putting themselves in order, the fleets converged again. There was a certain difficulty in this - the war was a civil war, so the opponents were, first of all, fellow tribesmen. Appian writes about this: “The approaching ships fought in every way, their crews jumped to enemy ships, and it was equally difficult on both sides to distinguish the enemies, since everyone had the same weapon, and almost everyone spoke Italian (the ships could only be distinguished by the color of the battle towers. - V.Sh.). The agreed password in this mutual dump was made known to everyone - a circumstance that served for many different deceptions - on both sides; they did not recognize each other both in battle and in the sea, filled with the bodies of the dead, weapons, and shipwrecks. "
            1. +10
              1 August 2021 06: 53
              The first battle taught the opponents to use incendiary shells more carefully - with close contact of ships, the fire was equally dangerous for both sides. Both armies watched the battle from the shore with mixed interest and fear. They understood that the outcome of the war was being decided, but for a long time nothing was clear: “plaintive cries were heard alternately from one side and then the other.”

              Again, there was a short break in the battle. Before the start of the third battle, Agrippa, having counted the number of disabled and sinking ships by the colored towers in the general pandemonium, realized that the enemy ships were killed significantly more than his own. He pointed this out to his commanders and the flagship's sailors, and then relayed the message to other ships. It is unlikely that it reached all the ships, but the next onslaught of the winged Caesarians was especially strong. They began to press the enemy continuously, increasing the pressure. Part of the ships of Pompey, which had a particularly difficult time, resorted to extreme measures: dropping the towers to get rid of excess weight, they rushed to the side of the Strait of Messana. However, only seventeen ships managed to escape in this way, the rest of Agrippa cut off with a detour and began to press against the shore. Some crashed - as, incidentally, some of the Caesarian ships that were too zealously pursuing them, others, trying to hide under the rocky coast, anchored, where they were either taken on board or burned. Now the few ships of Pompey, who were still fighting, surrendered to the mercy of the victor.

              The outcome of the battle was also very indicative. Agrippa lost only three (!!!) ships, while Pompey had 28 ships sunk, he also lost most of the others: except for seventeen that escaped from the encirclement, all the rest were burned, smashed against the rocks or captured by the Caesarians. "

              As a result of a vigorous flank attack, the Pompeian fleet was soon almost surrounded and pushed to the shore. Amazingly, the experienced naval commanders of Pompey in this situation did not even try to take any counter-maneuver, or even try to seize the initiative. From that moment on, Pompey's fleet was already doomed. The battle quickly turned into a massacre, and by the end of the day it was all over. Only seventeen Pompeian ships managed to break through the encirclement and go to the open sea. There was so much panic in the ranks of the Pompeians that Apollophanes surrendered with a whole detachment of fully combat-ready ships that had every chance of breaking through the encirclement. 28 Pompeian ships were launched to the bottom by battering rams, the rest washed ashore or were burned by their crews. As for Agrippa's old rival Demochara, he preferred death to captivity and stabbed himself with a dagger, seeing the inevitability of defeat.

              Regarding Agrippa's fleet, historical records state that its losses amounted to only three ships. True or not, it is difficult to say, but, however, it is not so important. The main thing is known - the victory in the general battle for the Mediterranean Sea remained with Agrippa. So, despite the large role of the land armies, the decisive defeat of Pompey was inflicted on the sea by Agrippa. In the first of two battles, he inflicted a decisive defeat on the enemy, and then in the second he completely destroyed him.
              1. +6
                1 August 2021 20: 19
                Delicious, juicy description .. Thank you! good
        2. +4
          1 August 2021 10: 24
          SERGE, what's the difference, what's in the forehead, what's spelled.? Pompey was torn apart
    2. -1
      7 August 2021 11: 58
      Yes Koteika) ... It seems that it was so.
      1. +1
        7 August 2021 12: 02
        It is very pleasant when an old tattered cat is called a "cat". laughing
  2. +7
    1 August 2021 06: 05
    The Battle of Actium is often viewed simultaneously as one of the most important battles in history and one of the most anticlimatic.
    And this is like an anti-climatic battle BC? Even the 2nd World War, with its burned cities and atomic bombings, was not called anticlimatic by anyone.
  3. +10
    1 August 2021 06: 06
    About ancient pirates there is a wonderful book by AVSnisarenko "The Lords of the Ancient Seas", which is very informative and interesting. I recommend!
  4. +9
    1 August 2021 06: 08
    I have a question here - are there any other sites similar to Voenniy Obozreniye (historical, general scientific ...) where articles can be published?
    If anyone knows, please tell me.
    1. -1
      1 August 2021 07: 06
      Greetings Vladimir, I am like from the cartoon "we are fed well here too!"
      However, thank you for understanding the topic!
    2. 0
      1 August 2021 07: 42
      On Zen, there is already a "solid" blog you can start
    3. -1
      1 August 2021 08: 32
      here: http://alternathistory.com/
    4. +7
      1 August 2021 09: 13
      I have a question here - are there any other sites similar to Voenniy Obozreniye?
      https://warspot.ru/
    5. +6
      1 August 2021 09: 51
      Good afternoon, dear Author!
      Go to Kadrof.ru.
    6. +1
      1 August 2021 12: 15
      I have a question here - are there any other sites similar to Voenniy Obozreniye (historical, general scientific ...) where articles can be published?
      If anyone knows, please tell me.

      You, judging by your flickering on this site. mislead the audience. There are many sites where you can publish articles and they are widely known. The same "Samizdat", where 95 percent - the same untalented graphomaniac, like you.
      But you are interested not only in the opportunity to present your opuses to the audience, but in the opportunity to earn money with your writing. There are also a lot of resources here and, imagine - decent fees. The same Great Escape Publishing pays between $ 50 and $ 200, depending on the length and type of your article.
      New Scientist hosts content that covers science and technology. Their payment depends on the number of words.
      You can find article writing jobs on All Indie Writers.
      But you don't need all this - there is nothing to do with your level. Samizdat, LJ, VO, Yandex-Zen are for you.
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 04: 09
        In LiveJournal, with all the haphazardness, there are very interesting fragments. Everything depends on the author.
    7. 0
      1 August 2021 12: 53
      I think you currently need to think about how to improve the quality of your creations, and not produce quantity, in the hope that it will be interesting to someone. By offering to read what you are proposing now, you are rather disgusting the reader. In any case, as a consumer of information, having seen your signature under another article, I am already absolutely skeptical about it and do not expect anything useful or interesting from it.
      Engage the reader here and now, show that on the topic that you have chosen for research, you really know more than Wikipedia and than most of us, take the trouble to find a texture that does not lie on the surface. Finally, show respect for the reader, otherwise it seems that we are for you - just wineskins with a nutritious liquid, to which you can and should stick to without giving anything in return. People come here to have fun and replenish their knowledge. You do not offer them either one or the other.
      1. -1
        1 August 2021 17: 38
        that we are for you - just wineskins with nutrient liquid
        Food base.
        1. 0
          2 August 2021 10: 40
          As for the wineskins, I remembered "The Tale of the Troika" by the Strugatskys. smile
    8. 0
      1 August 2021 13: 52
      Quote: Vladimir Zyryanov
      I have a question here - are there any other sites similar to Voenniy Obozreniye (historical, general scientific ...) where articles can be published?

      About anti-climatic battles? Well try it on some climate forum / site. for example weather forecast on RenTV. They love it there
    9. 0
      9 August 2021 05: 38
      The author wishes to be more careful with biographies.
      Guy Octavius ​​became August not after the death of Guy Julius Caesar, but at the age essentially after 40 years, when the Senate proclaimed Octavius ​​(Octavian) "Sacred" (Augustus)
  5. +12
    1 August 2021 06: 19
    He was loved by the Roman people, but never used it to try to elevate his name or gain additional credentials.
    How is it that modern politicians lack, where to find such ..
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  6. +7
    1 August 2021 06: 28
    Author.
    In the struggle of Augustus with the so-called "republicans", Agrippa did not particularly stand out either as a military leader or as a soldier. However, after the end of this struggle and the division of the Roman Republic, his peculiar path to glory began.

    A.Shtenzel.
    Agrippa's outstanding multilateral talent is proved by the fact that at the age of 20 he already acted publicly in Rome as an accuser against Cassius, Caesar's assassin, at 22 distinguished himself in the war against Fulvia, and at the age of 25 successfully commanded the army in Gaul and Germany. From there he was summoned to Rome to take over the command of the new fleet to act against Sextus Pompey. Dio Cassius calls Agrippa the best man of his time; in any case, he was undoubtedly the only Roman with a talent for naval wars.

    As they say in Odessa - as if the same thing, but two big differences.
  7. +13
    1 August 2021 06: 35
    Agrippa was a warrior, general, and best friend of Augustus.
    There is such a thing, Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa was devoted to Octavian like no other, and was with him to the end. These two
    have been close friends since childhood. Both served in Caesar's legions when he went against Pompey, and both achieved military glory. During the struggle for power after the assassination of Caesar, Agrippa's skillful military actions literally elevated Octavian to the imperial throne and helped him to stay there. During his reign, Octavian Agrippa served him faithfully, married Octavian's daughter Julia, and, in the end, made as much effort as the emperor, to maintain the integrity and strengthen the influence of the empire.
    In gratitude for Agrippa's military and political achievements, a pantheon was erected, which can be considered the second most famous piece of ancient architecture in Rome after the Colosseum.
  8. +9
    1 August 2021 07: 05
    By the way, I also have such articles on the history of Ancient Rome:
    Battle of Alesia or how Caesar conquered Gaul. Part 1.
    Barbaric invasion of Europe. Part 1. - https://paypress.ru/varvarskoe-invasion-to-europe-part-1-7058
    How Caesar nearly lost everything. - https://paypress.ru/as-caesar-b bit-not- lost-all-6853
    1. +2
      1 August 2021 07: 33
      Barbaric invasion of Europe

      One article on this topic is indispensable.
      Volumes of essays cannot be dispensed with here ...
    2. +2
      1 August 2021 10: 32
      slaves were offered freedom in exchange for service
      And how could a slave, being someone's property, make a personal choice and enter the service?
      1. +3
        1 August 2021 14: 10
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        slaves were offered freedom in exchange for service
        And how could a slave, being someone's property, make a personal choice and enter the service?

        In Roman law, a freedman.
        By the way, in the Roman navy, they often achieved command of not only ships, but also often commanded squadrons and fleets.
    3. +3
      1 August 2021 10: 33
      And why are they still not published here?)))
  9. +2
    1 August 2021 07: 17
    After suppressing some Galician tribes

    The author clearly reported it. Can the Gali people still?
    1. +4
      1 August 2021 07: 45
      Also noticed. Galicians instead of Gauls, only Meehan can find laughing
    2. -2
      1 August 2021 11: 09
      Quote: Undecim
      Can the Gali people still?

      As well as a stubborn desire to turn Caesar into great uncle Augustus
      1. 0
        1 August 2021 14: 45
        Isn’t that so?
        1. 0
          1 August 2021 15: 11
          Caesar was a great uncle
          1. 0
            1 August 2021 15: 30
            Hmmm ... I understand that Wikipedia is still a source, but it says that Octavian is the son of Attia, daughter of Julia the Younger, sister of Gaius Julius ...
            Maybe there is something confused in the Russian version?
            1. 0
              1 August 2021 16: 06
              In the Italian (and Roman) tradition, it is called prozio.Zio is Uncle.
              1. 0
                1 August 2021 16: 49
                Interesting. But I read something about it ...
                1. -2
                  1 August 2021 16: 51
                  And in Russian it was also called that. Great uncle
            2. +1
              1 August 2021 17: 09
              Caesar was Octavian's grand-uncle or great-uncle. Octavian's grandmother is Caesar's sister. Everything is correct with the author.
              1. +1
                1 August 2021 17: 35
                Michael! hi
                As far as I understand, there is no disagreement over the degree of kinship. From the explanations of a colleague, I understood that in Latin and Italian any indirect older relative is called "uncle."
                1. +1
                  2 August 2021 10: 38
                  The article is written in Russian and the discussion is in Russian.
                  In Russian, however, the concepts of "grand-uncle" and "great-uncle" are not identical. A cousin is a cousin of one of the parents, a grandchild is a brother of a grandmother or grandfather. Different generations. Caesar to Octavian was precisely the grand-uncle or, like the author, the great-uncle.
                  In terms of indicating the degree of relationship between Caesar and Octavian, the author is right, that's all. hi
  10. +3
    1 August 2021 07: 47
    Hmm, "Galician tribes", anti-climatic battles, the author, you somehow re-read what was written. Especially the latter, is it like the emission of harmful substances into the atmosphere exceeded the world norm?
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 10: 42
      Probably, the author was in a hurry to hand over to become, and the rush is needed only in case of intestinal upset
  11. +6
    1 August 2021 07: 49
    After the death of his father, Sextus Pompey fled to Iberia

    He did not flee to Iberia. He fled to Tire, then to Cyprus. And he got to Celtiberia three years later, after the Battle of Mund.
    1. 0
      6 October 2021 21: 26
      Yes, I remember that he was running somewhere, while I was present, but I forgot where I was present when he was running somewhere, and there were about a few darkness in sacks.
  12. +2
    1 August 2021 07: 58
    The Battle of Actium is often considered simultaneously one of the most important battles in history and one of the most anti-climatic.

    The topic of the influence of the Battle of Actium on the climate was not disclosed in the article.
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 10: 38
      Vic. Nick himself thought, what does the climate have to do with it? Perhaps he was going to reveal the topic, and then forgot?
      1. 0
        1 August 2021 15: 51
        The topic of the influence of the Battle of Actium on the climate was not disclosed in the article.


        Victor Nikolaevich!
        The author just put it casually.
        It was necessary to write "the influence of the NATURAL environment on the outcome of the Battle of Actium."
        For two thousand years, historians have puzzled over how it could have happened that Antony lost. I shouldn't have!
        And the following happened. Antony, with his powerful fleet, entered the bay, which was connected to the sea by a narrow strait. He did this because a short way to Rome opened from the gulf by land. But then it turned out that the troops of Octavian were capturing or had already captured those areas in which Antony intended to send his troops. So it was necessary to leave the bay, there was no point in staying there.
        But then something else was discovered! The fleet of Octavian, led by Agrippa, had already managed to position itself opposite the exit from the bay to the sea. By the way, Octavian Augustus himself was present at this, but, suffering from seasickness, he sat in the cabin without getting out.
        Antony's fleet was blocked. And it is understandable that in order to break the blockade, Antony's heavy ships had to rush to Octavian's triremes and, crushing them, break through the blockade.
        This is to rush ...
        The entire fleet of Octavian watched as Anthony's ships, entering the strait, tried to pick up speed, but nothing came of it. The ships seemed to be frozen in place. As we would say now, they "stalled". It never occurred to anyone to attribute such a slippage to Antony's cowardice.
        So what kept Antony's ships from breaking through the blockade? Only not so long ago, historians turned to physicists, and they, having studied the terrain and characteristics of Anthony's heavy ships, modeled the situation.
        And then a curious thing came to light.
        The strait was very shallow. Nevertheless, Anthony's ships passed it calmly in order to penetrate the bay. And back it was necessary to break through at high speed. And it turned out that the thickness of the water layer between the bottoms of heavy ships and the bottom of the strait was exactly the same, at which the higher the speed of movement, the greater the resistance of the water. This led to the slipping of deep draft vessels.
        But who then understood this!
        Apparently, Anthony decided that there was an intervention of higher forces, the gods were not supportive of him, and was demoralized by this circumstance.
        1. +5
          1 August 2021 18: 19
          And it turned out that the thickness of the water layer between the bottoms of heavy ships and the bottom of the strait was exactly the same, at which the higher the speed of movement, the greater the resistance of the water.

          Water resistance increases with speed, regardless of depth.
          And the phenomenon that you described is an increase in wave resistance in shallow water. The ship will not "slip", it simply will not be able to develop more than critical speed. But in order for the ancient ships with their scanty speed to be influenced by such an effect, you need a lot of "luck".
          1. +4
            1 August 2021 18: 57
            Probably, Anthony had it, that "luck" ...
            Or maybe it really is the will of the gods. In any case, Antony stormed. And according to a Spanish proverb, waiting leads to despair.
  13. +6
    1 August 2021 08: 39
    By the way, the fate of Agrippa a thousand years later echoed with some similarity in Russia.
    After the death of Agrippa Marcus Vipsanias, his friend Augustus Octavian did not adopt the youngest son of Agrippa, who was named Agrippa Postumus, which meant that he was born after the death of his father. So Augustus Octavian hoped for the continuation of the dynastic family of Agrippa, But Tiberius adopted Agrippa Postumus, after he married Agrippa's mother Postumus. But then Octovian adopted Agrippa Postumus along with his stepfather Tiberius, after he drove Agrippa Postumus' mother from the palace further for a riotous lifestyle. But after the death of Octavian, Tiberius kills Agrippa Postumus, fearing a rival to power.
    So, the slave of Agrippa Postumus Clement was strikingly similar to Agrippa Postumus. And he, like Pugachev in Russia many centuries later, will declare that he is the escaped Agrippa Postumus and will make similar claims to power, which Pugachev also made, stating that he is the escaped Peter the Third ...
  14. +2
    1 August 2021 10: 31
    Comrades, it was an interesting time: the generals were generalists both at sea and on land.
    Now put a general in charge of the fleet, what will happen?
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 14: 15
      Quote: vladcub
      Comrades, it was an interesting time: the generals were generalists both at sea and on land.
      Now put a general in charge of the fleet, what will happen?

      Fleet of Ukraine! laughing
      1. +3
        1 August 2021 14: 20
        And I forgot about the tank admiral.
      2. -4
        1 August 2021 14: 25
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Fleet of Ukraine!

        How funny ... or the RF Air Force

        Sergey Vladimirovich Surovikin (born October 11, 1966, Novosibirsk, RSFSR, USSR) - Russian military leader, Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation since October 31, 2017

        ... In 1987 he graduated with a gold medal from the Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command School named after MV Frunze. After graduation, he served as commander of a motorized rifle platoon, commander of a motorized rifle company in the 2nd Guards Motorized Rifle Division
        ...
  15. +1
    1 August 2021 10: 43
    The Battle of Actium is often viewed simultaneously as one of the most important battles in history and one of the most anti-climatic.
    Which ones? O_o
  16. +4
    1 August 2021 11: 27
    After the suppression of some Galician tribes and the crossing of the Rhine

    By the way, these same "wild Galician tribes" really would not hurt to suppress)))
  17. +1
    1 August 2021 11: 45
    "Galician" - federates from Galicia; "anticlimatic" - the first post-nuclear winter in history, obviously laughing
  18. +2
    1 August 2021 11: 59
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    He was loved by the Roman people, but never used it to try to elevate his name or gain additional credentials.
    How is it that modern politicians lack, where to find such ..

    Man was spiritually developed, there was no egoism in him.
  19. +3
    1 August 2021 13: 49
    Caligula's grandfather, Nero's great-grandfather, August's best friend and loyal deputy

    It seems that Agripp was engaged in wrestling (Greco-Roman), as if his ears were broken.
    He was a grandfather and great-grandfather through his daughter Agrippina, although Caligula and Nero belonged to another branch of the family - the Claudian Nero.
    It turns out during his childhood and adulthood in Rome there were so-called. "social elevators".
    Nobilet gave the opportunity to enter into power and plebeians, the new citizens of Rome. Agrippa's father or grandfather (if I am not mistaken) received the citizenship of Rome. Equites (horsemen), sort of like in the era of kings and the Republic, were originally from among the patricians.
  20. -1
    2 August 2021 21: 36
    But if the author is familiar with the New Chronology of Fomenko and Nosovsky and at the same time writes such articles, then what is the name of such an activity? Can this be called fantasies on phantom descriptions of the history of the Middle Ages?
  21. 0
    18 August 2021 09: 31
    thank you ... well written
  22. 0
    4 October 2021 17: 42
    Why is the Battle of Actium called "anticlimatic"?
    And who are the "Galician" tribes?