In the USA: Teachings simulating war against China fail

After a failure in an exercise simulating a military clash between the United States and China, America is changing its strategy of a potential conflict with China. The methods used by the American military over the past 20 years have not worked against such powerful adversaries as the PRC or Russia.

According to Insider, this statement was made by the deputy head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States, John Hayten, during his speech at the Institute for Emerging Technologies.

The American military leader noted that the exercises held at the end of last year "failed miserably" and suffered a fiasco. This happened due to the fact that the conditional adversary, having excellently studied the strategy and tactics of the actions of the US Armed Forces, acted ahead of the curve and won.

Aggressive Red Team that has studied the US for the past 20 years has put us in the back

- declared the military leader.

According to Hayten, the US military operations in China and Russia are being studied even more thoroughly. Thus, in a real conflict, the result will be the same. This is forcing the US military to fundamentally change its approach.

As noted by the media, Hayten called the new strategy “extended maneuvering. It provides for a change in attitudes towards logistics, coordination of firing, command and control, as well as "establishing an information advantage."

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[aybolyt678]

Hayten called the new strategy “extended maneuvering. It provides for a change in attitudes towards logistics, coordination of firing, command and control, as well as "establishing an information advantage."

I put my main strategy and tactics, information sabotage, last ...

[KAV]

As the media notes, Hayten called the new strategy “extended maneuvering. It provides for a change in attitudes towards logistics, coordination of firing, command and control of troops, as well as “establishment of information advantage».

In terms of information, they have an advantage, yes. As for the rest, today, "they are tortured to swallow dust" ...

[knn54]

Well, it didn't work out The main thing is to BURN OUT, BOMB

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aybolyt678

Hayten called the new strategy “extended maneuvering. It provides for a change in attitudes towards logistics, coordination of firing, command and control, as well as "establishing an information advantage."

Look, you do not hesitate to admit the most serious failure.

[URAL72]

You do not understand, - this is a subtle hint to Taiwan, - "further on, but while you are alive, give money, we will throw you a weapon." The Chinese should kill the Chinese, and the Russians should kill the Russians. This is America's golden dream, it is a pity that Kiev does not understand this.

[Ros 56]

Why, they just understand, Ukrainians are killing Ukrainians.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

They are not Ukrainians, of course, but these feverish American attempts at change are VERY reminiscent of the clown's frantic last attempts to change and improve at least something. And I remember the immortal words of the fabulist Krylov ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Look, you do not hesitate to admit the most serious failure.

Or maybe the purpose of the exercises was different? verification of our awareness or misinformation?

[alystan]

Today (or yesterday) there was information about the unsuccessful tests of the anti-missile by the Americans.
So, out of habit, they accused Moscow of setting up electronic jamming, which was the reason for the unsuccessful shooting. Of the two missiles fired, only one hit the training target, and the second supposedly didn’t hear anything. How wretched they are! They learn to shoot down and they are helped to "create" conditions as close as possible to combat conditions, and for free, and they are fools, instead of thanking them, they complain and cry !?
But the most interesting at the end from the press statement:
"We did blah blah blah ... with 50% blah blah blah ... We are delighted with the results shown ... This is to support our partners and friends around the world and to showcase our achievements and capabilities. ... in order to intimidate our enemies. "
Maybe where I made a mistake (I write from memory), but not much.
The first thing that came to my mind was "Is it really the text of Psaki's work?"

[Real Pilot]

Teachings simulating war against China fail

It's like losing to yourself at chess. I know, the arrester ...
Don't turn the board over, but still one of the opponents will win ... And both of you! That is, you can say at the same time: "I won" and "I lost". Therefore, such a PR on the need for money can be carried out with any sounded result!

After all, there was no China in this duel, the Americans quietly "fought" with themselves.

But the fact turned out to be a fact: the United States is not ready for a war with China.
This understanding is also the result of the teachings! And this result is not a failure, but a timely warning.

[Tuzik]

in short - give me some money!

[t-12]

In short: "Chinese, you are incredible, you will easily defeat us, attack us as soon as possible."

[lucul]

In the USA: Teachings simulating war against China fail

Well, that's done with China)))
With the Russians they managed - even as soon as they began to conduct the first simulations)))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lucul

Well, that's done with China)))

So they did it with their "reds", and what will happen if you have to wage a real war, with the real Chinese?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, that's done with China)))

So they did it with their "reds", and what will happen if you have to wage a real war, with the real Chinese?

And they dealt with our construction battalion?

[alex neym_2]

In addition to a sledge hammer, do they (construction battalions) have anything in service? I offer from my personal stocks (second-hand, of course) a gasoline car for wood with a tender name "FRIENDSHIP", as well as a nail puller "DENTAL'S DREAM". I don’t propose a cultivator from OTORVINOGA - it’s a very lethal weapon ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: tihonmarine

, and what will happen if you have to wage a real war with real Chinese?

unacceptable loss is called

[Ros 56]

No, real Americans will run out.

[nonsense]

But a really smart person would ask: what will happen if you have to wage a war with Russia, which has never had such maneuvers before, and all those operetta performances what in the Russian Federation are called "maneuvers" invariably end in complete success according to the script (clearly written and rehearsed)? Can the troops, which in their "exercises" have not learned anything to resist in a real large-scale clash with such troops of the US Armed Forces, repeatedly "beaten" in their exercises? And to win?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nespich

and what will happen if you have to wage war with Russia ...

Armageddon, however, will be. Because we are not going to be modest and will certainly move a vigorous loaf into a brazen face ... The Yankees, I must admit, will not remain in debt either ... Well, everyone else will have to SWALLOW DUST, radioactive, naturally ...

with Russia, which has never had such maneuvers before, and all those operetta performances that are called "maneuvers" in Russia invariably end ...

To spew out the fullness of stupidity ...
1. SCST are carried out on a regular basis. SKSHU with the indicated forces (with the removal of standards and the conduct of experimental activities) - are held every 2-3 years. After them, the obligatory analysis and analysis of the actions of the parties ... with organizational conclusions ...
2. About operetta performances (maneuvers) of the RF Armed Forces. When NATA swallowed the transfer of 160 thousand troops from weapons and military equipment to the Zap of the theater of operations within 2 days ... she was horrified and began to convulse ... USS so simply sang about the aggressive RASHU "old song about the main thing", because they coalition troops were collected within a MONTH !!! This is the question of operetta performances ...
3. Do you think why the TRIBALTIC tigers are fighting in epilepsy, bitching with their legs and screaming that everything is lost !? Yes, because they know for sure that in 48 hours they will sink into oblivion as NATA's limitrophes. And no one can save them, because they will not have time to change diapers from a child's surprise ...

can the troops, who have not learned anything on their "exercises", to withstand a real large-scale clash

Is this about the troops of NATA? No, they cannot.
And our troops are constantly learning. And the results of studies (do not bring the Almighty) can enlighten any adventurer, curing nuclear and any other power dependence ... the leadership of any country in this world.
But most importantly, our Armed Forces, with their level of preparedness, equipment of weapons and military equipment, leave no chances for fans of "shooting from afar" to stay alive after they press the red button.
AHA.

[nonsense]

I don't need to repeat fairy tales from TV - I did serve in the Russian Army and saw ... What I saw, I sing ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nespich

I did serve in the Russian Army and saw it.

Dmitry, but besides STROYBAT there are other types and types of aircraft!
And besides the trench, there is also the STRATEGIC CONTROL CENTER of the RF Armed Forces of the RF Ministry of Defense. And the General headquarters is also there, not only "Roly-platoon for war suitable."
Therefore - "there are other frogs in our swamp" ...

[nonsense]

I do not believe! All these KSHU boil down to officer / general drunkenness! - that's your whole "STRATEGIC CENTER" ... And these "strategists" only know how to steal on a strategic scale ...

[poquello]

Quote: nespich

I do not believe! All these KSHU boil down to officer / general drunkenness! - that's your whole "STRATEGIC CENTER" ... And these "strategists" only know how to steal on a strategic scale ...

funny, but Jews and Americans told the same stories to Georgians in 2008?

[nonsense]

Well? Judging by how ineptly the Russian troops acted in 2008 in Georgia, these "fairy tales" were very close to the truth ...

[alex neym_2]

Guys! "Nespich" is a sent Cossack girl from the series "... and Baba Yaga is opposite ..."

[nonsense]

"Cossack" is your grandfather. And dementia is your generic disease, apparently ...

[alex neym_2]

Looks like it hurt a sore spot, if you started to offend ...

[nonsense]

the word "Cossack" and even "sent" is an insult ... But for the above reasons, you simply did not understand it ...

[Dart]

let's minus it together!

[poquello]

Quote: nespich

Well? Judging by how ineptly the Russian troops acted in 2008 in Georgia, these "fairy tales" were very close to the truth ...

how clumsy? ))))))))))))))) Did the Georgians beat them? ))))))))))))))))))))))
"judging by the ears and eggs, this hare is 300 years old"

[KAV]

Quote: lucul

just started to carry out the first simulations

Simulations they still have. What the Millennium Challenge 2002 Exercise is worth. Read it. It is simply impossible without laughter there.

[Simon]

Yes, now let the Americans wash. If they failed in the exercises, then in this case, it is better not to start any military actions at all, or even the states will disappear from a litt of earth.

[prior]

What an interesting topic: Black Americans versus Chinese.
Apparently they forgot in America about the coffins from the jungle of Vietnam and how they fled from Saigon leaving everything ...

[Vadim Ananyin]

More from Georgia.

[rocket757]

The methods used by the US military over the past 20 years have not worked against such powerful adversaries as the PRC or Russia.

... Yes, yes, tell me against whom their methods, their warriors, worked so, Schaub win in general. Without a "donkey with a bag of gold," they generally have nothing to catch and nowhere.

[rotmistr60]

The methods used by the American military over the past 20 years have not worked against such powerful adversaries as the PRC or Russia.

It is one thing to bomb with impunity those who do not have not only air defense, but sometimes also MANPADS, and another to risk unleashing an armed conflict with a country that has a combat-ready and well-armed army. That is why they try to inflict damage with someone else's hands (there are enough grunts) by staying aside, and when they start hitting these hands they make a surprised face and invite their "allies" to figure it out themselves. Superfluous confirmation that it doesn't matter what your military budget is, but how you know how to fight and whether you are ready for it is important.

[iouris]

There are too many Chinese in the US Army.

[Wolf]

In Vietnam, among all the White peoples, the majority were Irtsi, Polaki, Rus, Serbia, and they perished so that democracy would expand. Today most of the Latino Americans and Negri so nothing has changed.
One of the capetans of the ship that bombed the Serbs with Tomahawks from the Mediterranean was a pure Serbian, this creature bombed the people to establish the American Tyranny!

[Ros 56]

So saboteurs in the rear are also needed.

[Wolf]

The article is actually good. One ode of generals in the US UNDERSTOOD that BATTLE TACTICS in the US have completely changed with the advancement of technology. No strategy, or tactics and operations, yes.
It is good for the rest of the world that they have just begun to realize that EVERYTHING THEY KNOW ABOUT THE WAR AND HOW THEIR ORGANIZED ARMY PASSED A CENTURY, THERE WILL NOT BE SUCH FIGHTS !!!
But the God of War was not an Anglo-Saxon !!!

[askort154]

In the USA: Teachings simulating war against China fail

This is understandable even without teachings. Your "teachings", unnecessary wear of the printing press resource.
Russia and China are not Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan.
With an open visor, you have no victories. Your victories are only in "color revolutions". But here, too, do not last long, in Belarus they have already "slipped".

[nobody75]

There will be no open-ended wars. There will not even be a large-scale high-tech conflict (although it is necessary to prepare for it). The war with Russia will be outsourced to Turkey. It is not just that the Turks climb into Afghanistan and talk about the army of the great Turan.
Sincerely

[u-345]

the conditional adversary, having excellently studied the strategy and tactics of the actions of the US Armed Forces, acted ahead of the curve and won.

Where would I find out the details.
It is one thing that the teachings failed. the capture of Russia and China failed, because the enemy snapped back hard.
And it is quite another matter "the enemy won the victory." In Russia's understanding, to win is to hoist an assault flag over the capital of the aggressor in general.

[voyaka uh]

If they failed, their teachings were realistic.
On the contrary, the teachings in which the enemy finds himself are alarming.
utterly defeated.

Exercises of the type: a barrage of artillery and MLRS fire, waves of attack aircraft.
Scorched earth, journalists are shocked, politicians are delighted.

[bk316]

If they failed, their teachings were realistic.

Absolutely optional.
Imagine that China used the death star in the teachings, the Americans failed, but the teachings are unrealistic.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: voyaka uh

On the contrary, the teachings in which the enemy is utterly defeated are alarming.

Alexey, what is shown to the public is pure propaganda: no one has canceled propaganda anywhere in the modern world.
All serious things happen on the SKSHU - pure or with designated forces. If troops are involved, then they are called "maneuvers". Here there is the scope (theater) of the operation, the pace of the offensive, the depth of defense, logistics and maintenance of the database, and other gadgets for OI and strategy. And what we are shown on TV is the essence of tactics and the implementation of group BU.
Therefore, the real military thought is in the headquarters of the Army-Front level. And in order to better understand where it is narrow and can break - computer modeling or bilateral exercises of "blue" - "red" ... And according to the standards of the adversary, with his tactics and methods of organizing the database.
There are methods, there is a calculation of potentials and other crap ...
It's not as simple as the box broadcasts and the sweet-voiced troubadours of military TV are singing.
But.

[poquello]

Quote: voyaka uh

Exercises of the type: a barrage of artillery and MLRS fire, waves of attack aircraft.
Scorched earth, journalists are shocked, politicians are delighted.

)))))))))))))))))))))))))) Would you go "Return move" watch

[APASUS]

Of course, if we consider the war with Iraq or Afghanistan, then you can completely and completely immerse yourself in the shooting of houses and Neanderthals. But Russia and China will not work that way. You can also get it in everyday life, not to mention how the logistics, bases, weapons depots, an air defense system, a space grouping, everything requires enormous forces to cover

[Lech from Android.]

The Chinese monkey tore off the feathers of the American kite ... the Russian bear, as always, did not come to the war.

[Atlant-1164]

there is not a single chance today .. not a single state, or a group of states against the PRC. solve the military conflict in your favor.

[dauria]

solve the military conflict in your favor.

Easy. The United States is waiting for the moment and is helping to play off China and the Russian Federation. After sitting out, they come and skin both the winner and the loser. Anglo-Saxon policy of "equality on the mainland". They will even start helping us soon, when they see that China is becoming much stronger than Russia ..

[Simon]

Quote: belroe

This is called deceptive propaganda in order to impose on the enemy the idea of ​​their invincibility, this is the whole trick.

What invincibility can be when little Vietnam gave them a good butt.

[Yrec]

I could just say - give me money!

[GBG_Belarus]

Yes, the United States is specifically preparing for a war with China, because they have less and less time. As long as the United States can strike at China and practically go unpunished, the main strike potential, like the anti-missile one, is located on the ships of the United States. China has basically the entire industrial area off the coast. Even if China, in response to aggression, decides to launch a nuclear strike, then China does not have so many carriers and they are not as perfect as those of Russia - they can intercept and in response to bang already specifically - all of China to dust. Provocation with Taiwan and rushed. But if you wait, then China will bring up both conventional and nuclear weapons and then you will not be at war with it.

[tralflot1832]

And the "Reds" than the entire US Pacific Fleet sunk? That Taiwan is already the PRC is obtained by the results of the exercises.

[alystan]

Quote: alystan

Today (or yesterday) there was information about the unsuccessful tests of the anti-missile by the Americans.
So, out of habit, they accused Moscow of setting up electronic jamming, which was the reason for the unsuccessful shooting. Of the two missiles fired, only one hit the training target, and the second supposedly didn’t hear anything. How wretched they are! They learn to shoot down and they are helped to "create" conditions as close as possible to combat conditions, and for free, and they are fools, instead of thanking them, they complain and cry !?
But the most interesting at the end from the press statement:
"We did blah blah blah ... with 50% blah blah blah ... We are delighted with the results shown ... This is to support our partners and friends around the world and to showcase our achievements and capabilities. ... in order to intimidate our enemies. "
Maybe where I made a mistake (I write from memory), but not much.
The first thing that came to my mind was "Is it really the text of Psaki's work?"

I decided to add myself a link to the news about the unsuccessful tests of the Aegis missile defense system:
https://free-news.su/interesnoe/53766-amerikanskaya-sistema-pro-aegis-snova-oblazhalas
I really don’t know if it’s possible or not to do this?