Information about the beginning of work on the prototype of The Checkmate fighter was announced

The new Checkmate fifth-generation single-engine fighter, which was presented at the MAKS-2021 air show, will be assembled at the aircraft plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (KnAAZ). This was announced by the head of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Yuri Slyusar.

Answering the question InterfaxSlyusar confirmed that the Checkmate fighter will be assembled at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant, which is a subsidiary of the Sukhoi company. Currently, the aircraft plant is assembling Su-57 and Su-35S fighters.

It is emphasized that the company has already begun work on the creation of the first prototype of the new aircraft, which will be used for static tests. It is also noted that the aircraft plant is already familiar with the new fighter, since it was at KnAAZ that a full-size demonstrator of Checkmate technologies was assembled, which was presented at the MAKS-2021 air show.

As earlier during the presentation of the new aircraft, which took place on July 20, the head of the United Aircraft Corporation Yuri Slyusar said, the corporation intends to enter serial deliveries of the new fighter in 2026-2027. The aircraft will make its first flight in 2023, prototypes of the aircraft will appear in 2024-2025, and an installation batch in 2026.

The fighter was developed taking into account deliveries to both Russian Aerospace Forces and foreign customers. The declared characteristics: speed - up to 2M, flight range - up to 3 thousand km, payload weight - 7,4 thousand kg. A radar with AFAR, a circular optical and electronic reconnaissance system, a built-in electronic jamming system, an optical sighting system, and a wide-range communication system were installed.

Comments

[Invoce]

The declared LT characteristics are simply excellent. They will also be equipped with a dual-circuit engine with an afterburner ..! It would be nice for this project now to start developing new, more reliable components. PNK, ACS, REO ...
Go Russia!

[Gardamir]

Ten-year-old boy Styopa was convicted of rape, as he said that in ten years he was going to have several girlfriends.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Invoce

The declared LT characteristics are simply excellent.

don't wave your high spirits here

[Invoce]

Don't you send! You mean something to wave? Do you have anything to do with aircraft construction?
If not, then you should not enter into controversy, and if Yes, then everyone should see
The more we swing, the more we have!

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Invoce

Don't you send!

and I see you like to give advice, and even though he grew up in the country of advice, but I don’t give it to anyone, and I see you love to do it, but what else can you do? well, except for tips?

[Invoce]

This is not advice, but an answer to your remark!
What other questions will you have for me? Besides what I can ...

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Invoce

Besides what I can do ..

but I still do not understand what else you can do besides giving advice

[Vladimir Mashkov]

INVOICE
I know that, like you, I will call the vicious attacks of all the scummers, leftists, and other spiteful critics of the "fifth column", BUT I FULLY support you and I also REALLY like this future new bird and I believe in the genius of Russian designers and the golden hands of aircraft manufacturers! Go Russia!

And de ... mo can minus!

[venik]

Quote: Invoce

The declared LT characteristics are simply excellent.

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Directly "gorgeous"? No need for inappropriate emotions! Good - yes! Very close to the flight characteristics of the MiG-35 .....
But the EPR should be very small! At least much less than the 35th .....

[rocket757]

Information about the beginning of work on the prototype of The Checkmate fighter was announced

... This is already a concrete statement that the product will be made ... not right tomorrow, of course, but there are already prospects.
What it will be in real life, over time, everything will become clear.

[Lech from Android.]

We are looking forward to the first flight ... I hope we will see the chick in a year and then it will be clear what kind of bird it will be.

[YOUR]

The Su-57 began development during the Soviet era, in the 90s the program was terminated in 2001, the first flight in 2010. There is only one aircraft in service so far. 20 years have passed since the beginning of development.
At this rate, you can and will see retirement.
And it is still not clear the plane is the Russian name why some kind of English - Checkmate

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: YOUR

At this rate, you can and will see retirement.

and taking into account the increase in retirement time, you may not see

[rocket757]

And who came up with the idea that we cannot sleep / eat, because all sorts of plans of the responsible / irresponsible rush around, clogging the background, without their real embodiment?
If we wait a long time on the couch, it's quite comfortable ...
And regrets, annoyances and other specific words have long been expressed / written, why will it be repeated?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: YOUR

The Su-57 began development during the Soviet era, in the 90s the program was terminated in 2001, the first flight in 2010. There is only one aircraft in service so far. 20 years have passed since the beginning of development.

In Su57, everything was developed from scratch.
In the shakhimat, all the filling is already ready, only the glider is new. And it seems that in the Su57m the main brake was not at all in the glider, but in the filling.

[YOUR]

Naturally, a lot in the creation of an aircraft is new. But to say that everything was created from scratch is wrong. For example, the AL-41F1 engine, in reality it is a modernized AL-31F. Ditto for avionics. AFAR also has "parents"

[Alex777]

Quote: YOUR

For example, the AL-41F1 engine, in reality it is a modernized AL-31F.

The AL-41F1 engine is actually a modernized AL-41F. The dimensions were reduced. And the cravings dropped.

[El Chuvachino]

Yes, this logic itself is flawed. It might just as well be said that the PW F135 is an upgrade of the PW F119, which in turn is an upgrade of the PW F100 from the 70s.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: YOUR

The Su-57 began development during the Soviet era, in the 90s the program was terminated in 2001, the first flight in 2010. There is only one aircraft in service so far. 20 years have passed since the beginning of development.

In Su57, everything was developed from scratch.
In the shakhimat, all the filling is already ready, only the glider is new. And it seems that in the Su57m the main brake was not at all in the glider, but in the filling.

How can everything be ready?
Radar AFAR - it is still unknown whether it is produced, at least piece by piece.
There is no D-30 engine in serial form and it is not yet known when it will be.

The theme of the production of the Su-57.
Do you think the "brake" was.
And the news and the realities say that the brake Yes.

we still do not have the equipment for the complete assembly of the Su-57 ...

The modernization of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant (KnAAZ) for serial production of Su-57 fighters will be completed by 2024, said Alexander Pekarsh, deputy general director of Sukhoi, director of KnAAZ.
"Under the program of rearmament for a fifth-generation aircraft, all the planned facilities should be commissioned by 2024," Pekarsh said in an interview with the factory newspaper Krylya Sovetov.
According to him, the plant is systematically equipping the assembly and assembly shops with additional stands and equipment for assembly, including unique swivel slipways designed specifically for the construction of the Su-57.

It turns out that before the age of 24 - about any serial and high-quality assembly - there is no talk?
On the knee, bypass technologies ???
As usual?

Plans for 13 cars (we delete one) by the end of 2025 - is this normal?

And why such a small production rate and, accordingly, the schedule?
Because there is nothing .. No engines, no AFARs ...
They are also done on the knee and bypass techniques ...
And before the 25th year, the rate of production of components will not change ..
The KnAAZ plant is not in a hurry to urgently change its production and assembly equipment for nothing. What's the use if the accessories "another 3 years to wait"...

[Invoce]

Su-35 is being assembled at KnAAZ! For the Su-57, additional shops, assembly lines are needed, additional equipment needs to be purchased. equipment, etc. The process of manufacturing components, not to mention the purchase of stands, presses, lines, from "WANT" to "Received, ready to use" takes a long period. Allocation of funds, approval of contract documents, production of these stands, presses, lines, finally. Delivery and installation ... Not a quick process, especially in conditions when there is uncertainty about the payback of these measures

[apricot]

For some reason, no one says that the public procurement tender system is killing production in the country. often you have to take not the best, but the average, passing by the parameters ...
I work under Federal programs, and I am faced with this constantly. Designers are given a task and financing parameters that they must meet; manufacturers, in turn, are looking for suppliers who can offer the lowest price, and there is no way to look for suppliers that give the best performance characteristics, since you are bound by the estimate given by the designers (and the project is crude and requires a lot of improvements). As a result, we get an unfinished spaceport, workshops for the production of SU57 by 2024 (at least 1,5 years will be spent on knocking out additional funding), equipment of average quality, and at the same time heavy fines, bank ghouls and a "glorious" fiscal system ...

[Alex777]

Quote: SovAr238A

How can everything be ready?
Radar AFAR - it is still unknown whether it is produced, at least piece by piece.

Even when it is produced, we will not immediately know about it.

There is no D-30 engine in serial form and it is not yet known when it will be.

The tried and tested AL-75F may be enough for the Su-41.
Those who have seen the "technology demonstrator" close up suspect him. The MiG nozzle is mentioned.

[El Chuvachino]

I hope the moderator will not pass by and remove this blatant lie.

[YOUR]

You can chat as much as you like, but you specify what is the lie?
Do not be shy.

[Zhan]

The indicated mass of the payload is 7.4 tons. Is it normal or maximum? If normal, then regarding its size, this is just a fairy tale. But, its weight and fuel weight are not indicated.

[Genry]

Quote: Zhan

The indicated mass of the payload is 7.4 tons. Is it normal or maximum?

All characteristics are indicated as maximum.
In real applications, a total weight compromise is already being created, the maximum of which is determined by the take-off conditions (runway length, air density).

[Invoce]

Quote: Zhan

combat load 7.4 t

"Combat load" is ASP!
Fuel, own weight have nothing to do with this.
All you mean is "Maximum takeoff weight", which includes EVERYTHING!

[rocket757]

We will see.
Our military-industrial complex is one of only a few, which CAN make high-class aircraft, from nose to tail!
Of course, I want to see / believe that the statements of responsible leaders are made for a reason ...
Boom wait and see.
What other options do we have?

[Alex777]

I decided to give a little "left" example. Aurus.
I didn’t believe at all that something good would come of it.
We haven't made any decent cars for a long time.
The result has exceeded all my expectations.
How exactly the deadlines were met is a separate issue.
So I have no doubt that the Su-75 will fly on time.

[rocket757]

The question is, who will control and, if necessary, give a stimulating kick?
In our reality, this is important.

[Marachuh]

Interesting countries - customers of the new aircraft. India, Egypt, Algeria? Will China take a few to copy? Does Vietnam have the money? Will the UAE purchase despite the shouts of the United States?

[Andr Kravzov]

Until it is done, there may be completely different geopolitical layouts. Maybe the Texas Republic will order. Or independent hong kong

[Cosm22]

Until it is done, there may be completely different requirements for modern aircraft.

[surok1]

Wishlist, they are always like that.

[Alexander 3]

Have you already started selling airplanes?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Marachuh

Interesting countries - customers of the new aircraft. India, Egypt, Algeria? Will China take a few to copy? Does Vietnam have the money? Will the UAE purchase despite the shouts of the United States?

The UAE signed a contract back in 2017 for the creation of the Su-75. By their order, the car is being created.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Quote: Marachuh

Interesting countries - customers of the new aircraft. India, Egypt, Algeria? Will China take a few to copy? Does Vietnam have the money? Will the UAE purchase despite the shouts of the United States?

The UAE signed a contract back in 2017 for the creation of the Su-75. By their order, the car is being created.

Don't believe the news with military contracts ...

Here is the news of the same 2017.
"Russia signed an agreement on the supply of Su-35 to the UAE"
https://rostec.ru/news/4519916/

[Invoce]

Where does the information come from ??? About the signed contract with the UAE ???? From JSC "Rosoboronexport" or State Corporation "Rostec" ??? The aircraft has just begun to be delivered to the RF Armed Forces, only the "E" modification has been released .. but it turns out that the contract has already been signed since 2017. Can the letter of intent consider the aviation equipment presented at MAKS 2017, 2019, 2021 as an option for procurement? The US won't let them buy anything! UAE is the main ally after Israel in the states in the Middle East

[bayard]

Quote: Marachuh

Will China take a few to copy?

Will they sell him?
To date, even ordinary AL-41F-1S are not sold to him. Only as part of finished products and in an amount of at least 1 - 2 squadrons.

Quote: Marachuh

Does Vietnam have the money?

Vietnam is a fairly solvent client with a healthy economy and developed trade. Moreover, Vietnam has long been persuading the UAC of the Russian Federation to develop and offer a light single-engine fighter to replace the MiG-21. Dreams Come True .

Quote: Marachuh

Will the UAE purchase despite the shouts of the United States?

The modern world is so changeable and sudden that by the time of US purchases, as a single state, it may not be on the world map. An example of the Slvetsky Union is their guarantee .- fell asleep in the USA, woke up in Oklahoma ... sovereign and independent. Or in the chaos of a civil war. Or in the pit of the economic crisis ...
Few are afraid of a dead and terminally ill lion.
And the UAE is our long-time partners in military-technical cooperation.

[PROXOR]

Why are they to China. They have their own J31. An almost complete copy of the penguin from the glider.

[Mountain shooter]

As soon as the "product 30" became a reality, the plans for a single-engine aircraft also became reality. Well, we have not forgotten how to make airplanes ... How did you manage not to lose your qualifications?

[Alex777]

AL-41F is quite enough for external sales, IMHO.
"Product 30" when it appears - it will go to the Su-57 for us.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Alex777

"Product 30" when it appears - the Su-57 will go for us

So it has already appeared. The tests are in full swing. And it is more profitable to make the engine serially, how many of those 57's are planned? And then there's such a market! Yes, I, too, somehow at a loss why the AL-41 is not planned for this plane. It is not so "weaker" that it really is. However, the interest of the engine builders is understandable. For the new engine, they will give more money, and for development ...

[Alex777]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So it has already appeared. The tests are in full swing. And it is more profitable to make the engine serially, how many of those 57's are planned?

Hello Eugene!
Scheduled 72, you know. There are already 144 engines.
There is always a reserve for the aircraft life cycle.
I don't know the exact numbers. But I can assume that at least another 288 will be required. A decent series of KMK.
And this is the cutting edge of our technology.
IMHO, while you can not sell - I would not sell.

Yes, I, too, somehow at a loss why the AL-41 is not planned for this plane. It is not so "weaker" that it really is.

AL-41F is not weaker at all, at afterburner 18000 kgf.
It did not fit the Su-57 in size, so the "Product 30" is being cut, but for the Su-75 it may well do. And then the puzzle comes together.
Of course all IMHO. We are waiting for the exact info.

[Maks1995]

That's the end of the debate over whether it was a plastic model or a flight prototype.
And the rest has already been promoted many times, you don't need to read it.
Better somewhere they laid out the specifics - the dimensions of the layout, etc.

[prior]

Stop shaking the carrot in front of the patriotic donkey's face.
An airplane is, at least, something that flies, and not something that is shown in cartoons and models.

[Yrec]

But the afterburner supersonic speed is not declared. Not taken into account for the 5th generation.

[bayard]

It is stated and very well founded. With a maximum take-off weight of 18 tons and an engine thrust at maximum non-afterburner mode 11 kg.f. , supersonic speed is not likely, but required.

[Ross xnumx]

said the head of the UAC Yuri Slyusar, the corporation intends to enter serial deliveries of the new fighter in 2026-2027. The aircraft will make its first flight in 2023, prototypes of the aircraft will appear in 2024-2025, and an installation batch in 2026.

What can I say?

Our goals are clear, tasks are defined. To work, comrades!

[Igor Tikhomirov]

Quote: YOUR

The Su-57 began development during the Soviet era, in the 90s the program was discontinued, the program continued in 2001, the first flight in 2010.

Your lies. In the USSR, the 5th generation was occupied by the design bureau im. Mikoyan and Gurevich. The work resulted in the projects MFI (multifunctional heavy fighter) and LFI (light front-line fighter). The MFI prototype (1-44) was built in the late 80s. Due to the lack of flight models of engines, the prototype stood on the ground until 2001. Then, after several flights, the topic was closed. The reasons were named - oversize (too large and expensive), the need to adopt two types of aircraft at once (MFI and LFI), poor stealth due to the peculiarity of the aerodynamic layout (EPR was estimated as at least 1 sq. M), etc.
Further, a new competition was announced, not a single fighter for the Air Force of an intermediate dimension. Since KB MiG was "pushed back" by this time, the winner was clear without a competition. As far as we know, the results of the first stage of the competition did not satisfy the customer. After the revision of the project, the winner was, as expected, the design bureau of SU. Further, somehow, the requirements of the technical specification were adjusted, as a result of which an equally monstrous aircraft appeared as the MFI (1-44), known as the SU-57. Moreover, without normal engines, the specifications for the development of which were apparently forgotten to be adjusted in time.
Now the Aerospace Forces are faced with the need to adopt a new light-class aircraft (they are apparently unable to formulate requirements for which they are apparently unable to), since the Russian budget is unable to handle a lot of SU-57s.

[alexmach]

It is emphasized that the company has already begun work on the creation of the first prototype of the new aircraft, which will be used for static tests.

Which is to be expected. Prototypes are being produced.

[senima56]

"The head of the UAC, Yuri Slyusar, said that the corporation intends to enter serial deliveries of the new fighter in 2026-2027." Here is interesting: And where will Yu. Slyusar be in 2026-2027 ?! "The main thing is to crow!"

[ccsr]

since it is at KnAAZ a full-size demonstrator was assembled Checkmate technologies, which and was presented at the MAKS-2021 air show.

And here some "experts" on this demonstrator have already discussed flight and combat characteristics foaming at the mouth. In general, the circus and only, for those who understand how all this really happens, because so far we are talking (judging by the title of the article) only about the creation of the FIRST prototype. But judging by the fact that they are starting to work on it, I am more and more convinced that the technical documentation for it is already available and it was taken out of our stockpiles, because the development of this aircraft was carried out much earlier in my opinion.

[Karabin]

As earlier during the presentation of the new aircraft, which took place on July 20, the head of the United Aircraft Corporation Yuri Slyusar said, the corporation intends to enter serial deliveries of the new fighter in 2026-2027. The aircraft will make its first flight in 2023, prototypes of the aircraft will appear in 2024-2025, and an installation batch in 2026.

Who can argue with a bottle of Armenian brandy that there will be no series in 2027?

[Teador]

Quote: Andr Kravzov

Until it is done, there may be completely different geopolitical layouts. Maybe the Texas Republic will order. Or independent hong kong

Or there will already be sixth generation aircraft. Because in many countries there are sixth generation models and designs

[amr]

Quote: Gardamir

Ten-year-old boy Styopa was convicted of rape, as he said that in ten years he was going to have several girlfriends.

))))) and fuck the penis which he will have 60-70 centimeters!

[amr]

Quote: Karabin

Who can argue with a bottle of Armenian brandy that there will be no series in 2027?

With me! what are you betting on? I bet there won't be any series in 2027!

[Baron pardus]

The work on the working prototype of the Tie Fighter was announced after the demonstration model was shown to potential customers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTvY9Llqtms

[Azat Mambetov]

The name hurts the ears. It is pathetic. It does not exist yet, and already "check and checkmate" to someone. A new generation of managers has come to the industry.