"We'll have to crawl on our knees and ask Russia for gas": Ukrainian political scientist spoke about the situation with gas in the country

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A shortage of hydrocarbon fuel was predicted in Ukraine. Even if the Russian Federation maintains the transit of gas through Ukraine, then these volumes will clearly not be enough to actually meet Ukrainian energy needs. Accordingly, the needs of the energy sector, which is already experiencing difficulties, will inevitably decrease along with the country's WFP.

Political analyst Dmitry Korneichuk made such forecasts on the Ukrainian NewsOne channel. He noted that the Ukrainian authorities have been "hanging noodles" on the ears of citizens for the seventh year, declaring that they are buying European gas. According to the Ukrainian expert, it is well known that this is still the same Russian gas, the supplies of which are provided only because Russia maintains its transit through the territory of Ukraine.



Korneichuk:

This is Russian gas from a transit pipe. The fact that this is European gas is a myth that we have been promoting for six years.

According to Korneichuk, he will have to crawl on his knees and ask Russia for gas.

At the same time, he noted that this is not even so much advice as an objective reality, a necessity.

Without this, Ukraine will simply freeze.

Ukrainian political scientist:

The authorities don't tell us anything about it. She simply deceives us, not wanting to admit the obvious. We can be left without gas at all if Russia will reduce transit.

Recall that at the moment Russia is ready to keep the volume of transit through the Ukrainian GTS at a level of no more than 20 billion cubic meters. This is several times less than it was a few years ago. It is also worth recalling that in the near future it is planned to send the first cubic meters of gas to Europe via the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.
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  1. +12
    28 July 2021 06: 11
    Not enough, they steal the European share, for the first time or what?
    1. +5
      28 July 2021 06: 36
      "We'll have to crawl on our knees and ask Russia for gas"
      Still not all maydanutye on the whole head ... A sensible idea appeared!
      1. +6
        28 July 2021 06: 41
        No matter how Korneichuk the SBU gets busy ... they say seditious thoughts, he works for Muscovites, Putin's agent ... they quickly hang labels.
        1. +9
          28 July 2021 06: 44
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          SBU was not engaged

          Shpigun Moskalsky ... feel
      2. +6
        28 July 2021 10: 57
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "We'll have to crawl on our knees and ask Russia for gas"
        Still not all maydanutye on the whole head ... A sensible idea appeared!

        Where did they get their sane thoughts? It's just that the instinct of self-preservation works well.
        They will sit by our fire and hait our firewood and matches with which it kindled. This is the essence of this people.
    2. +8
      28 July 2021 06: 43
      Not enough, they steal the European share, for the first time or what?

      If the transit becomes less than critical, then there will be nothing to steal.
    3. +5
      28 July 2021 06: 57
      gas should be given to the Cossacks, Cherkassians and Darians, but not to the Ukrainian ones.
    4. +2
      28 July 2021 07: 19
      If I am not mistaken, then the minimum gas pumping takes place in the volume of about 15 billion cubic meters (t.s. technological occupancy), the rest of the cubes according to the purchased coupons, that is: ordered, paid and received ... but how to steal - too much no
      1. +4
        28 July 2021 07: 34
        For the seventh year now, the Ukrainian authorities have been "hanging noodles" on the ears of citizens, declaring that they are buying European gas

        In fact, Ukrainians have been “hanging noodles” for thirty years of imaginary, fake “independence” ...

        Noodles of various varieties, from - "We are the greatest" to - "The whole world is with us"
      2. +5
        28 July 2021 11: 19
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        If I am not mistaken, then the minimum gas pumping takes place in the volume of about 15 billion cubic meters (t.s. technological filling)

        And profitability starts closer to 40 .... Well this is an ambush. Yes, the Europeans themselves will ask them to be excluded from the process
    5. +15
      28 July 2021 07: 32
      To get on your knees, you first need to get up from them
    6. 0
      28 July 2021 07: 39
      Quote: ASAD
      Not enough, they steal the European share, for the first time or what?

      And Germany will pay for this theft. It is not for nothing that according to the memorandum on Nord Stream 2, the Americans tipped Germany to invest and support the energy sector of Ukraine. Yes
    7. 0
      28 July 2021 23: 55
      They don't steal, Nikolai. it won't work now.
  2. +10
    28 July 2021 06: 13
    This is Russian gas from a transit pipe.
    The open secret is revealed.
    if Russia will reduce transit.
    I wonder how they will sing, if you completely block it.
    1. +11
      28 July 2021 06: 19
      Quote: SERGE ant
      I wonder how they will sing, if you completely block it.

      Yes, even if you block it, don't block it, the "achressor" will be to blame anyway. And the screams at the whole universe! "They want to freeze us! They don't give us money for transit, so that we don't strengthen our army, America will help us with liquefied gas, though it will be more expensive, so we raised the price" and so on, so forth. Sorry, I don't have enough imagination to foresee what else they will come up with!
      1. +20
        28 July 2021 06: 39
        Yes, even if you block it, don't block it, the "achressor" will be to blame anyway.

      2. +2
        28 July 2021 06: 57
        Quote: Egoza
        Yes, even if you block it, don't block it, the "achressor" will be to blame anyway. And the screams at the whole universe! "They want to freeze us!

        The failure of the "Ukraine - an independent state" project is becoming more and more obvious. There is no prospect of people seeking power to work for the interests of the state and its people. And the people themselves, for some unknown reason, are promoting the most indecent of all possible options to the heights of power. After all, they themselves think in the style of "everyone except us is to blame for our troubles." The same Ukrainian Armed Forces (I do not mean the nationalist virtuosos) were not brought from outside. They are called from the people and they are hammering their own people in Donetsk with artillery! Some kind of massive madness. I think in the end we will come to the division of the country into several parts. They themselves will not fix anything. They can only scatter in different directions on an individual basis. Already today they have a noticeable problem (they themselves talk about it) with the replacement of jobs with the simplest professions, such as a tractor driver, welder, turner, etc. Only pensioners come. The hysteria of the upper circles of Ukraine will only grow. Unfortunately...
        1. +7
          28 July 2021 07: 02
          Quote: Hagen
          The same Ukrainian Armed Forces (I do not mean the nationalist virtuosos) were not brought from outside. They are called from the people and they are hammering their own people in Donetsk with artillery! Some kind of massive madness.

          High-quality brainwashing. They are sure that the Russian army is there, and they pound it. And civilians - well, they are accomplices of the occupiers, it means that they should also be used for consumption. Yes, and the artillery will shoot, but you can't see that he got into the house with a child, so conscience does not torment. That would be to lead these Armed Forces along the streets that they fired at, so that residents in the Ukrainian language (which is not alien to them) spoke to them ...
          1. +9
            28 July 2021 08: 13
            Quote: Egoza
            High-quality brainwashing. They are sure that the Russian army is there, and they pound it.

            Those in the trenches know perfectly well who is in front of them. A lot of people passed through the trenches. I do not think that information about the realities on the contact line is closed so tightly that the people are not at all aware. It seems to me that there is no brainwashing being carried out, but a complete methodical "desecration" of the population. This is even worse. With such a joint living in a single space is impossible. It must be admitted that the West has qualitatively torn Ukraine away from Russia. Even if joined, it will be an unbearable stone on the feet of Russia's already tense economy. Do we need it (Ukraine) in full in this state?
            1. 0
              28 July 2021 10: 53
              Quote: Hagen

              Those in the trenches know perfectly well who is in front of them.

              To be honest, I doubt that. How many videos were there, when some in all seriousness repulsed the attacks of the hordes of Armata. Others shot down the Apaches, repulsed the attacks of the Abrams and Negro battalions. In fact, on one side and on the other, there are frightened boys with adrenaline-fueled guns. In the presence of any one trench truth, I strongly doubted when I read and tried to connect the memories of different commanders of the DPR / LPR. How many participants there are so many different versions of the same events.
              1. +4
                28 July 2021 12: 01
                Quote: moscowp
                How many participants there are so many different versions of the same events.

                There can be any number of opinions, but they know for sure that the Russian Army is not there. This can be said to journalists by hordes of armatures. Otherwise, you can not see any military or other preferences in service. And for themselves, not for the press, they understand why there they can roam in full growth on the construction of fortifications, and do not cross the Crimean border.
          2. +2
            28 July 2021 14: 48
            Everything is trite simpler - serving in the army is perhaps the only way to earn at least some means for living.
        2. +6
          28 July 2021 11: 27
          Quote: Hagen
          today they have a noticeable problem (they themselves talk about it) with the replacement of jobs with the simplest professions, such as a tractor driver, welder, turner, etc.

          Well, what are you talking about, how can you lol : you dunked not only the 404 country, but also the Balts with the Poles. How could supporting ”democracy” do not share the experience with 404s, that plumbers, turners, toolmakers ... and even long-range drivers magically disappear. But there are "lawyers", "designers", "sociologists" and other companies, who are dreaming of dumping the waiters in london
          1. +5
            28 July 2021 12: 05
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            you dunked not only the 404 country, but also the Balts with the Poles.

            The Poles are doing well so far. There, the Ukrainians settled down in free places near the toilet bowls. The ones you can't find at home. I have read the revelations of a Western banker in the Baltics for a long time that it is useless to send investments to the Baltics, because there is no one to master them there.
  3. +2
    28 July 2021 06: 20
    SP-2 has not yet started working, and the hysteria is no longer childish. In general, the situation is awful for them. Not for Ukraine, no. For Ze and the company. By and large, it's time for them to tick over the hill.
    1. -15
      28 July 2021 06: 51
      You wrote about Poroshenko for 4 years, now you will be talking about Zelensky? What do they have so bad, tell me?
      1. -12
        28 July 2021 07: 24
        There is nothing awful there. Another "news" in the series, how "bad in Ukraine" - to distract from the "revolution" of price tags in Russia and from thoughts of an alternative government. Yeah, look again "how is the kaklov" - once again Ukraine freezes, goes bankrupt, sells everything, goes hungry, goes around the world, etc. (underline the necessary).
        1. +1
          28 July 2021 07: 38
          Why stress. I am waiting for confirmation that the states will send Mr. Butidzic to the Crimean platform. Instead of the coveted Mr. Biden for the pianist. Although if Butidzic comes, it will be pleasant for Zeli on the contrary…. wassat
        2. -2
          28 July 2021 08: 05
          "There is nothing awful there."
          Most likely it is. We are told how Ukraine is freezing and falling apart, they are told how we eat up the last hedgehogs from the sanctions. As far as I remember, Ukraine's revenues from the transit of Russian gas are about $ 5 billion. This is a significant, but not critical amount in terms of GDP. 1% maybe. I see quite a lot of Ukrainian families vacationing in Europe in good hotels. These are not oligarchs, but, conditionally, the middle class, which can spend 10k euros on family vacations. So everything is normal with them in general, maybe on average they live more poorer than we do.
          1. NKT
            +4
            28 July 2021 08: 30
            What are 5 billion? Now they receive $ 1.5-2 billion for transit (provided that the additional capacities are not booked by Gazprom). Pipe maintenance costs about $ 400 million per year. The main problem is in the concept of the pipeline system itself - it also serves to supply gas to the population and enterprises. There is no gas flow from the east - there is no gas for consumers in Ukraine. They will have to invest huge amounts of money to rebuild the entire pipeline system in Ukraine. And, of course, she does not want to lose the status of a "transit country", which allows her to be on the "political arena" of Europe and do the next nasty things to Russia.
            The Ukrainian cut-off is 15-20 billion cubic meters of gas, only the operating costs of the pipeline pay off, and you still need funds for overhaul.
            1. +2
              28 July 2021 09: 47
              we still need funds for overhaul.
              If I am not mistaken, Miller announced a "possible" continuation of gas transit through the GTS of Ukraine, under several conditions: economic benefit and the most interesting - "if the GTS itself is in good working order."
              I am not a gas worker, but I suppose that the last "TO" pipes were made in the years 80-85 ....
              Otherwise, the pipe can be used to make an "underground passage" to the EU for the passage of Ukrainian laborers to the EU.)
          2. +4
            28 July 2021 08: 56
            Judging by the way they are hysterical, they have lost something very significant than $ 5 billion - 1% of GDP .. although 1% of GDP, I think, this is significant for the country's economy .. and if things go like this, the pipe will not will you throw it out and have to pay extra for its maintenance? It’s so very disappointing ..
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          3. +4
            28 July 2021 10: 31
            Ukraine's GDP is less than 150 billion dollars, which is 1%, where does the figure of 5 billion dollars come from, or just to write nonsense?
            1. -7
              28 July 2021 10: 56
              GDP PPP..500 billion
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            2. -4
              28 July 2021 11: 07
              “According to the Minister of Energy of Ukraine Yuriy Vitrenko, the country's revenues in 2020 from gas transit amounted to $ 7 billion. The expected decrease in the volume of gas transit through the country is 30%, and this is just the beginning. "
              7 billion minus 30% is about 5 billion.
              Ukraine's GDP at PPP for 2020 amounted to $ 544 billion.
              I do not expect any gratitude or apology from you.
              1. +3
                28 July 2021 15: 45
                The net profit of the Ukrainian GTS Operator at the end of 2020 amounted to UAH 20,4 billion.
                At the same time, income from activities in international markets amounted to UAH 47,5 billion, income in the domestic market - UAH 10,1 billion, the company said. Course remind? Let me remind you, perhaps, about $ 26.68 per hryvnia. TOTAL TOTAL INCOME - about $ 2 billion, by the way, only 14.9 billion hryvnia in taxes went to the state (God forgive me to write this about 404) Ukraine, then, and GDP in PPP, the profit is considered NOMINAL, so if you translate in PPP to multiply the same coefficient and profit. I do not expect any gratitude or apology from you, only common sense.
                1. 0
                  28 July 2021 18: 20
                  Well, I have nothing to apologize to you for that, I'm not rude to you. You were rude to me, but as I already wrote, it does not bother me, you can not apologize to me, your rudeness is your problem.
        3. -1
          29 July 2021 07: 42
          And what good has happened there over the past 6 years? Come on bomb. PPP GDP is 3 times lower than in the Russian Federation, and in our country it is far from being the top one.
      2. 0
        28 July 2021 08: 04
        You, like "snail number 6", no one will tell you anything. Because nobody needs you and nobody cares about you ...
        You are not significant here.
      3. +3
        28 July 2021 10: 06
        Can you read? Google helps. And yes, YouTube is full of videos of the kaklov themselves on this topic.
  4. +7
    28 July 2021 06: 29
    only after hanging self-styled and Bandera members on poles and entering Russia as regions, gas on a general basis
    1. +5
      28 July 2021 06: 34
      Quote: datura23
      only after hanging self-styled and Bandera members on poles and entering Russia as regions, gas on a general basis

      I completely agree with the first, but "gas on a general basis" ... well, first the pipe will need to be repaired, so that not a single hole in it is preserved, through which it will be possible to steal, at least put security! Although there will be new jobs. But take it to the guard with a check! )))
      1. +1
        28 July 2021 17: 19
        in the sense of stealing, there will be no such misunderstanding - Ukraine
  5. +3
    28 July 2021 06: 35
    Well, the current kids from the authorities are unlikely to crawl, because they personally do not care how much gas is for the population. And for the industry, they are ready to buy it and it is three times more expensive - they will rip the cream off the business. The main thing is not a question of price or transit, it is a measure designed to convince the population that “fraternal Russia” is to blame for everything, which, despite anti-Russian propaganda, continues to be in demand for the citizens of Ukraine. And they are confident that it is the position of the United States, with the support of the Balts and Poles in the EU, that will allow them to continue to beg and receive financial assistance, only if the anti-Russian rhetoric is preserved.
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  7. -15
    28 July 2021 07: 15
    another tale that Ukraine will be left without gas.
    Is the memory of the people short? Russia has already overclocked and nothing came of it. Ukraine will calmly receive gas in reverse, as it was before. There is generally an abundance of gas. I think an article for domestic Russian consumption, Russia needs to extend the transit agreement (which has already been written on VO more than once), and Ukraine in its current form does not agree, just the agreement will of course be signed and most likely both sides will have to make concessions, so that would justify these concessions on the part of Russia in the eyes of the population - they would present the case in such a way that Ukraine crawled on its knees, and Russia generously agreed.
    No one will leave Ukraine without gas - this has not happened before, especially since it will not happen now.
    1. +7
      28 July 2021 07: 32
      You have now discovered a new law of the market economy. With an excess of gas, can its price rise? And I thought - competition ... And yes, they will not leave without gas. But there will be no opportunities for theft from the word at all. And how is there “only fuckers pay taxes”…. And they will do without Russian gas, as well as without electricity, which is glad to have forbidden to buy until October of this year. A strange decision, especially in terms of timing. So that's it. I’m glad I don’t know what to spit on its decrees ... The flow to Ukraine is 266 MW at the moment. Data from the WECM website. Crimea 113 MW.
      1. -9
        28 July 2021 07: 52
        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        You have now discovered a new law of the market economy. With an excess of gas, can its price rise?

        Of course. With an increase in cost, which is generally observed. Do you feel a lack of bread in the store (as an example)? Nevertheless, the price for it is growing.

        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        But there will be no opportunities for theft from the word at all

        well it will not be so it will not be. But that is gas.
        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        And they will do without Russian gas, as well as without electricity, which is glad to have forbidden to buy until October of this year.

        Well, how did you manage before? and now they will manage. Ukraine has where to buy and not only Ukraine

        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        The current flow to Ukraine is 266 MW. Data from the WECM website.

        Do you know what 266 MW is? This is nothing at all.
        The power of a standard TPP generator (one generator !!!) - only one, I emphasize --- 550 MW
        Is there anything to talk about?
        Installed capacities at power plants of Ukraine - 42,8 GW.

        in order for you to understand --- 42800 MW
        1. +8
          28 July 2021 08: 04
          Thanks for the unit conversion. Who's stopping to deploy another bloc and punish the damned Muscovites? It is not a question of ethics and aesthetics. A question of fact. I'm talking about electricity. As you hope, I understand I have to do with energy. Concerning the increase in cost. Look at the time lag for the price increase, do you think that mining and transportation costs have tripled during this time? Well, tada oh ... By the way, I confirm. There was a request for emergency booking from the dispatcher of Ukrenergo.
          1. -5
            28 July 2021 09: 24
            Quote: Russian quilted jacket
            Thanks for the unit conversion. Who's stopping to deploy another bloc and punish the damned Muscovites? It is not a question of ethics and aesthetics. A question of fact. I'm talking about electricity. As you hope, I understand I have to do with energy. Concerning the increase in cost. Look at the time lag for the price increase, do you think that mining and transportation costs have tripled during this time? Well, tada oh ... By the way, I confirm. There was a request for emergency booking from the dispatcher of Ukrenergo.

            Expand the power unit?
            This is not a tent for you, especially since we are not talking about the lack of installed capacity - summer is usually the time for planned preventive repairs, most of the capacity is under maintenance.
            Then did the production rise in price?
            I'll tell you this, in the last half of the year absolutely incomprehensible crap has been going on.
            All building materials, oil, metals rise in price like crazy, this was not even before the Beijing Olympics - as an example, cables have risen in price by almost 3% in 30 months
            1. +7
              28 July 2021 10: 12
              Don't be funny. The block, depending on the power, is deployed over a period of time from 8 hours, if it is working properly. Medium pressure stations are even faster. Each station has a planned capacity reserve, for which it receives a payment and undertakes to turn on the equipment at the CO command. And there are also cross-linked stations. Specifically, we have the minimum duration of the generator from turning on to stopping from 36 hours. From the time of stopping to the next start from about 40. And bypasses, according to the calculation of the system operator, go even in summer. And no one cries about the tent. There is a word for the absence of energy deficit - planning. I say again that it is a matter of fact. About costs. At the moment, the cables have been purchased and their rise in price will come back to haunt later. At the moment, an oversupply of gas should lead to its reduction in price, especially since you wrote that there is a lot of it. To sell, you need to compete in price, since the buyer has the opportunity, picking his nose, to choose between the cheapest molecules of freedom and the expensive Mordorian gas. Or do I not understand the type of free market? But ... this is not observed from the word at all.
              1. -5
                28 July 2021 10: 35
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                Don't be funny. The block, depending on the power, is deployed over a period of time from 8 hours, if it is working properly

                Of course, gas turbines are even faster.
                But I'm back again 266 MW (if you are in the energy sector) - you understand - this is nothing at all
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                And no one cries about the tent

                Don't tell me common truths - I've been in the energy sector for 35 years
                I thought you meant to build a new generator.
                Once again I tell you, pumping 266 MW is about nothing.
                This does not mean a lack of capacity at all, it was just that this peak was cheaper to go through the purchase of electricity than to accumulate steam for 8-12 hours, and then waste the energy down the drain.

                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                At the moment, an overabundance of gas should lead to a reduction in its price, especially since you wrote that there is a lot of it

                Doesn't the example with bread mean anything to you?
                The prime cost has risen in price, no one will sell at a loss.
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                picking your nose, choose between the cheapest molecules of freedom and expensive Mordorian gas

                Do you think there is no gas other than Mordovia?
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                Or do I not understand the type of free market?

                No, the market price consists of many indicators and related costs are one of the main components of any price, and the fact that it has risen in price is beyond doubt
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                But ... this is not observed from the word at all

                Of course, it is observed, therefore there is a lot of gas on the market, countries choose and gas becomes cheaper and more expensive - this is a free market
                1. +5
                  28 July 2021 10: 58
                  I have been in the energy sector for 33 years. And you began to tell me the common truths. Convert giga to mega. Thank you taught hi The question was not about volumes, but about the fact of punishment of the damned, which nothing prevents. With such reserves. But about increasing the cost by three times .... Let's see. When prices go down, I’ll ask how much the cables have become cheaper.
                2. 0
                  2 August 2021 10: 42
                  I repeat the question. How much have cables risen in price again, or there is nothing to answer?
                  1. 0
                    3 August 2021 04: 36
                    Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                    I repeat the question. How much have cables risen in price again, or there is nothing to answer?

                    why are you clung to the cables?

                    Quote: atalef
                    I'll tell you this, in the last half of the year absolutely incomprehensible crap has been going on.
                    All building materials, oil, metals rise in price like crazy, this was not even before the Beijing Olympics - as an example, cables have risen in price by almost 3% in 30 months

                    it was written to you in black and white
                    Quote: atalef
                    the market price consists of many indicators and related costs are one of the main components of any price , and the fact that it has risen in price is beyond any doubt



                    Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                    At the moment, an oversupply of gas should lead to its reduction in price, especially since you wrote that there is a lot of it.

                    I gave you an example.
                    The wheat harvest in Russia in 2020, harvested by mid-September, has already become the second largest after the record set in 2017, the Ministry of Agriculture of the Russian Federation said on September 28.

                    According to the government of the Russian Federation, in 2020 the price for granulated sugar increased by 71,54%, for sunflower oil - by 23,78%, for pasta - by 10,45%. for bread - by 6,34%.
                    1. 0
                      3 August 2021 04: 49
                      Thanks for learning wassat wassat As for the cables, you started the explanation. Rise in price three times and in three months reflected on the price .... And about the clung - I take an example from you. I emphasize the post on what cannot be refuted. Your tactics. Catch on to the bug and hammer into it. Do not consider others more stupid. hi
                      1. 0
                        3 August 2021 04: 59
                        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                        Thank you for learning. About cables, you started the explanation.

                        wow, do you have problems reading comprehension?
                        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                        I'll tell you this, in the last half of the year absolutely incomprehensible crap has been going on.
                        All building materials, oil, metals rise in price like crazy, this was not even before the Beijing Olympics - as an example cables for 3 months have risen in price by almost 30%


                        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                        ... And about the clung - I take an example from you. I emphasize the post on what can not be refuted

                        refute what? What is the rise in price?
                        Well refute if you can
                        Construction materials began to rise in price noticeably in the spring of 2020. Most of all in the past year the price of rolled metal has risen. According to the National Association of Builders (NOSTROY), prices for some types of rolled metal in certain regions rose up to 100%. The Intersectoral Association of self-regulatory organizations in the field of construction and design "Synergy" speaks about the increase in prices for rolled ferrous and non-ferrous metals (aluminum, steel, cast iron) in 2020 by 50-150%. According to the Ministry of Construction, the metal rose in price in 2020 by an average of 70-80%.

                        Read more at RBC:
                        https://www.rbc.ru/spb_sz/22/06/2021/60d187969a7947a9ffa962d6
    2. +1
      28 July 2021 07: 57
      So it seems like this fairy tale is not spoken in Russia and not for Russians? This is Ukrainian and on Ukrainian TV ... no?
      1. +2
        28 July 2021 08: 13
        And there is. uk r tv. But the atalef writes about the article itself, as I understand it. hi
        1. +1
          28 July 2021 08: 48
          Did this fact take place on UkrTV? He had ... there he was not discussed for the Russians ... he does not want to explain anything to the Ukrainians, about the statements of the Ukrainian expert? ...
          1. -4
            28 July 2021 10: 03
            Quote: vitvit123
            Did this fact take place on UkrTV? He had ... there he was not discussed for the Russians ... he does not want to explain anything to the Ukrainians, about the statements of the Ukrainian expert? ...

            Unlike Russian channels, Ukrainian channels are free to express different opinions, which may or may not coincide with reality, and even more so not to be a spokesman for the officialdom.
            Well, the expert expressed his point of view, are these experts small?
            Listen to the expert Leonid and Kiselev - according to their prophecy, America should have died yesterday, and Ukraine the day before.
            1. +4
              28 July 2021 11: 45
              Quote: atalef
              Unlike Russian channels, Ukrainian channels are free to express different opinions, which may or may not coincide with reality,

              laughing laughing
              On the evening of Tuesday, February 2, 2021, many Ukrainian journalists and ordinary citizens were able to get rid of illusions about a democratic society and freedom of the media in their country. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in one fell swoop, without a court decision, closed three TV channels at once: NewsOne, ZiK and 112.ua

              All three TV channels have so far been distinguished by their opposition and criticism of the Ukrainian authorities. Naturally, all this time on other TV channels criticized "suppression of freedom of speech in the Russian Federation."
              https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20210203/1030436087.html
            2. 0
              29 July 2021 08: 43
              Today I looked at the spot gas prices. Interestingly, cables have risen in price again overnight? Or is there still not enough gas?
            3. 0
              29 July 2021 08: 45
              Listen and watch EHO and Rain. In addition to the first and Russia 24, there are many more channels where the authorities are criticized. And how many times has Gordon buried Russia, sharing his insights. And not a single one to the point .... And what about the closed channels in ukrain? I understand that this is freedom in Ukrainian and tyranny in Russian in your understanding ...
  8. +5
    28 July 2021 08: 28
    Recall that at the moment Russia is ready to keep the volume of transit through the Ukrainian GTS at a level of no more than 20 billion cubic meters.


    This is not just a figure, this is the minimum volume at which it is practically impossible to steal, if the increase in transit will be banal theft ...
  9. -1
    28 July 2021 08: 33
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    No matter how Korneichuk the SBU gets busy ... they say seditious thoughts, he works for Muscovites, Putin's agent ... they quickly hang labels.

    Tobaccos would learn from the sherkhan. Just a little bit, and there appear offended old rotten and released in "circulation", just ducks with accusations of harassment of an unwanted character. Everything is decent and beautiful.
    PS It turns out that the word denoting a corrupt woman is banned on the resource winked
  10. 0
    28 July 2021 08: 51
    Well, here is the crisis of power in all its glory. They knew that there was a problem in the energy sector, but instead of solving it, they shared power and made political scandals.
  11. +4
    28 July 2021 09: 01
    Why worry, until 2025 is still far away. You get 1 billion 360 million for transit per year, we jump further, we don't need to think about tomorrow. We should have thought about this in 2014. We can't cope with the plan, the spot price is $ 461, up to 800 It’s still a long way away. We have to work. In general, Ukraine is not very affected, the post-sale will be their friends - Poland from 2022, when the contracts end. That’s what Gazprom is choking, Ukraine’s choking is so self-indulgent. in the manner of Ukraine to cut it after 2022, while Gazprom has other plans, monthly contracts for Poland and at a different price. Rusophobia should be expensive.
  12. +3
    28 July 2021 09: 43
    The time for gas blackmail will soon be over. The Ukrainian people will have to realize their stupidity and shortsightedness. It is possible that not everyone in Ukraine is as stupid and naive as the Seluk. But everyone will have to be responsible for the actions of their government and the majority of their fellow citizens. It is unlikely that they will become smarter from this and draw conclusions. I do not believe. I am sure that they will begin to hate us, Europe and the United States even more. All those who turned out to be smarter. I feel sorry for them, a little. But nothing more. I don’t want to look like a bloodthirsty and heartless person, but the people who have chosen as their "heroes" - sadists and traitors, the people who have banned Victory Day - will face a time of reckoning. It's time. It is high time. The people of Ukraine honestly deserve what awaits them.
    1. 0
      28 July 2021 20: 40
      I would not say that everyone is so stupid there, most likely there the corrupt government led these people into a swamp.
  13. -6
    28 July 2021 09: 47
    How will they crawl if they all froze back in 15 ...

    Some are raving about the fact that the bridge will sink and the rash will fall apart, others are still waiting for the pipe to rot and the kakly to die out ..
    Truly, two worthy people ..))
    1. -3
      28 July 2021 10: 49
      Or rather "one people" wink
    2. -5
      28 July 2021 11: 00
      One people)
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  15. +1
    28 July 2021 14: 28
    They will not freeze, they have 20 billion cubic meters of gas of their own production, they will buy ten more, and the need for a year is 30 billion, from transit they received a lard one and a half forever green, now they are liver
  16. -1
    28 July 2021 20: 35
    Well, all gentlemen are thieves square, the freebie is over.
  17. -1
    28 July 2021 23: 56
    Not only Ukraine, but the whole of Europe will have to crawl on their knees for gas to Russia.