Poland and Russia react to the proposal of the head of the Polish Ministry of Defense to place Abrams tanks in the Smolensk Gate

Russia and Poland are commenting on the statement of Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak about "strengthening the eastern flank of NATO." According to the head of the Polish defense department, the country intends to increase its own defense potential, including through the acquisition of American tanks... Recall that earlier Poland decided to purchase Abrams tanks from the United States of America.

Talking about the prospects for this acquisition, the Polish minister allowed himself to express the following words:

There is a proposal to place Abrams tanks in the Smolensk Gate. If such a deployment takes place, then it will be carried out on the plain, which means that our infrastructure, roads and bridges will not suffer from heavy American tanks.

It should be noted that the Smolensk Gate refers to the flat terrain on the border of Poland with Russia and Belarus.

Blaszczak's statement was commented on in Poland itself. Representatives of opposition parties note that ministers from the ruling Law and Justice party "are constantly engaged in adding fuel to the fire, which they themselves kindle." The head of the Polish Ministry of Defense was also criticized by ordinary Poles for his proposal to place tanks in the Smolensk direction, pointing out that "the minister apparently wanted to please the American administration."

In Russia, experts, assessing the words of Mariusz Blaszczak, note that it is difficult to imagine what emotions the Polish authorities would have if the Russian Defense Minister allowed himself to announce the deployment of Russian T-90 or T-14 "Armata" tanks on the "Warsaw direction" ...

It is also indicated that the Smolensk direction does not give rest to the Polish authorities.

Comments

[Cat Alexandrovich]

I would say more simply: "In the Vladivostok direction" ... Clever guy.

[alex neym_2]

Are you preparing for an operation under the secret code "AntiBagration"?

[Shurik70]

Freudian slip.
They are preparing, preparing and dreaming of attacking Russia.
Only the Master does not give it yet. Understands that missiles will fly not only in Warsaw, but also in the USA

[Fantazer911]

The fact that there is a systematic preparation is understandable to a fool, and all the attempts they make, the mongrels do at the behest of fascington, a gradual build-up of equipment, manpower, nothing more than the creation of a massive shock fist!

[Thrifty]

The Poles will buy a destroyer, for example, from the USA, it will be based in Kaliningrad ???

[xorek]

There is a proposal to place Abrams tanks in the Smolensk Gate. If such a deployment takes place, then it will be carried out on the plain, which means that our infrastructure, roads and bridges will not suffer from heavy American tanks.

Now it is clear to the article below that ours have developed the latest anti-tank suspension for all types of turntables .. Cheap, simple, effective ..!
I can imagine how these "Abrms" and other group centers in Ukraine are going ...

Here's what will happen to them.

[max702]

Let the logs have Bundesian Leoperds., And they exploited the T-72 because Leoperd is expensive, but here they wanted Abrash .. He will obviously become more expensive in operation .. Oh, they will lick the hegemon one place tightly ..

[Installer]

Nothing new. An ordinary suck on mattresses. And a desire to put oneself at the forefront with Russia.

[hohohol]

And the desire to put yourself at the forefront with Russia.

Doggy style or in a beaver pose, as you like.

[Blackbeard]

Square will surpass them in this desire)

[avg]

Quote: Installer

Nothing new. Ordinary suck on mattresses.

The Poles are in business. They knock out subsidies from the European Union and share them with the Americans. If the Sumerians are also pulled up to the trough, the gamerope will howl.

[xorek]

Quote: avg

Quote: Installer

Nothing new. Ordinary suck on mattresses.

The Poles are in business. They knock out subsidies from the European Union and share them with the Americans. If the Sumerians are also pulled up to the trough, the gamerope will howl.

Germany is milked .. Merkel, gives everyone .. heh heh

[Akuzenka]

In Russia, experts, assessing the words of Mariusz Blaszczak, note that it is difficult to imagine what emotions the Polish authorities would have if the Russian Defense Minister allowed himself to announce the deployment of Russian T-90 or T-14 "Armata" tanks on the "Warsaw direction" ...

Why ?! It seems to me that a tactical nuclear charge, 150 Kt, would be very nice to be placed in the center of Warsaw, on the pedestal of the monument, instead of Pilsudski. For half an hour to admire, but did not have time to escape.

[Alien From]

There are enough birches for all the peshek!

[Prisoner]

Not enough, the pioneers will plant.

[A.K.]

Iskanders are already waiting in Kaliningrad when you place them there

[URAL72]

Iskanders are expensive. Let them put it closer so that Acacia and the Grad get it.

[paul3390]

Let's be logical - in Poland there are not enough bridges to allow a fool of 60 tons to pass. I don’t think that there are much more of them on the territory of Belarus. Total - here is a bunch of tanks. There is no way forward for them, for there are no bridges. Back - too, because again there are no bridges. AND? Where is common sense ??

[Bradley]

I think the Poles know a little more than you do.)

[paul3390]

Well - who am I to argue with the powerful strategic minds of the representatives of a great military nation!

[Bradley]

So I mean, too, who are you? This is the case for most VO commentators. They don't even know where Poland is, but they know everything about its bridges.
Wherever you spit, expert on expert. Have you even been to Poland?

[carstorm 11]

The officers study the maps of all border areas with possible opponents down to the streams. You at least served in the army, huh?)

[carstorm 11]

That tactical ammunition will fly to the place of accumulation?) Of course they know. The concentration on the border of the armored forces will immediately be regarded as dangerous. You have to be finished to go for something like that.

[Bradley]

Will not arrive, read the terms of use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation.

Of course they do. The concentration on the border of the armored forces will immediately be regarded as dangerous.

Who will regard you? It's good that you are not at the General Staff.

You have to be finished to go for something like that.

Yah?
And what will we do to place 250 Abrams at our border? Nothing. What are they afraid of?

[carstorm 11]

Are you normal?) Any concentration of offensive weapons near the country's borders is a threat. The General Staff will react to it immediately. Tactical complexes will be transferred. What we can do? There is a tank army if that. Why should they be afraid?) Die quickly.

[Bradley]

I? Normal. And you?
Well, let's transfer tactical complexes. So what?
Do not forget, the Poles in their land do whatever they want. And according to your logic, the 3rd World War would have been long ago.

[carstorm 11]

And where did you get the idea that they will not go forward? Once again, the location of large forces near the borders without notification, for example of exercises, will be regarded as preparation for war. Nobody is going to repeat 41 years. This means that there will be prompt preparation for the most negative scenarios. Let's transfer what? Are you serious?) Lord ... How I love to argue with those who generally have zero in the subject ...

[Bradley]

And where did you get the idea that they will not go forward?

Where is it forward, to Russia? They have nothing else to do?

Once again, the location of large forces near the borders without notification, for example of exercises, will be regarded as preparation for war.

This means that there will be prompt preparation for the most negative scenarios.

AND? Are we going to attack a sovereign state that has its troops on its territory?

[Edward P.]

Don't you really understand? There is no question of our attack, we are talking about preparation in the event of an enemy invasion, secondly, the transfer of our forces takes place on our territory

[Bradley]

Don't you really understand? There is no question of our attack, we are talking about preparation in the event of an enemy invasion, secondly, the transfer of our forces takes place on our territory

So the Poles do not seem to be installing 250 tanks near Moscow, but at their border, on their territory. What is the problem?

[carstorm 11]

Counteraction is not necessarily an attack. And they must understand this. The very essence of the enemy's understanding that such a blow can be inflicted in the event of any stupid decisions.

[Bradley]

Counteraction is not necessarily an attack.

A double-edged sword. For us - opposition, for the Poles - attack.

And they must understand this.

They understand, that's why not 2500 is like that, but 250.

[carstorm 11]

I do not overestimate abrashka. Moreover, I think this choice is stupid. The car is excellent but in our theater of operations there is little that can. But 250 tanks is power. And if their goal is RB, then the force is extremely significant. Therefore, there will be no underestimation. Why all this to the Poles, I have no idea. For admiring their own significance, apparently.

[Bradley]

Belarus is in an alliance with us, so the Poles will not attack it, because we will fit in. Poles know it, Old Man knows it and we know it.
Everything will be fine.

[carstorm 11]

I'm not saying that it will be bad. But the inadequacy of Poland's political leadership is quite obvious. Georgians in '08 also knew this and climbed anyway.

[Bradley]

The Georgians attacked our peacekeepers, not just put tanks on the border. The difference is significant.

[polar fox]

Quote: Bradley

And what will we do to place 250 Abrams at our border

so this ... Masha will express concern!

[carstorm 11]

Warn. MO will follow its own scenario.

[Prisoner]

The militant pshek jumps out of the calzones, so he wants to fight Russia. Only scary to the rabid. So chatting, poking for a fool will do. And what is the demand for a fool?

[svp67]

That's right, collect them all together so that you can cover them in one volley, and not chase all over Poland

[paul3390]

Actually, this is exactly what they recently practiced in exercises. They drove a bunch of troops into the Suvalkinsky ledge, received a blow on the flanks and - a complete defeat. We cried for a long time. Actually, in order to foresee such a result, it was not necessary to conduct exercises, it would be enough not to skip the history of the wars with Hannibal at school.

Apparently, their teachings and schools are not at all for politicians.

[EEE226]

Well, yes, let them gather in a heap in one place! And then they will hide like bugs in the cracks, look for them, knock out each one! And so at once! Slippery!

[Vladimir61]

All this pack should be reminded more often that out of those "gloves" that they throw out to us, we will sew ourselves a ceremonial tunic.

[Eug]

From the history of the Great Patriotic War, he believed that the "Smolensk Gate" is an impeccable area between the Western Dvina (Daugava) and the Dnieper. What does Eastern Poland have to do with it? I'm going to study geography ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

There was no sadness until the Poles bought Abrams and F-35))).

You should not approach the Smolensk gate with a weapon, they can shoot from the fortress, with a large caliber))).

[Astra55]

And how is he going to deliver them there?

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Dreams, dreams! Suddenly someone will attack! And there such tanks will disappear idle! And no one needs a cowboy!

[Split]

Another provocation to the recent exercises? Let's have another one! And to bring a couple of hundred tanks to the Polish border, we have a lot of grub .... I think it won't be a problem to come to an agreement with Old Man. Already tired of their stuffing

[Alt 22]

As the events in Yemen showed, "Abrams" burn well even from old ATGMs ...

[Split]

Well, I wrote about this situation, in the forehead of his RPG-7, even modern grenades cannot be taken ... most likely they were substituted by the sides. I repeat - Abrams is a self-propelled gun with a turret. The sides of the tower and the sides themselves make their way with a bang with everything possible. I recall the T-72 from the Terrible (1 assault), pierced from above into the turret and hull 7! RPG. EMNIP The commander was killed, the jet hit him (but this is not certain), the driver was concussed. The tank was patched up and he fought further.

The frontal of the Abrams right now, in my opinion, is the strongest, due to the use of depleted uranium 235. In fact, what's the difference, either the tank flies at the speed of a projectile and or a projectile towards it according to general relativity. Therefore, the armor itself essentially reproduces the effect of ablative cutting, thereby destroying the scrap flying into it, although I find it difficult to say against the cumulative jet ... all the same, it is liquid and due to its speed (in fact, it is practically equal to the speed of propagation of the shock wave in the explosive, and there it can be up to 10 km / s) exerts tremendous pressure and, in fact, plastic deformations occur. The jet essentially pushes the metal with this pressure and how uranium works at the same time - I have not seen information in the public domain

[rocket757]

There is a proposal to place Abrams tanks in the Smolensk Gate. If such a deployment takes place, then it will be carried out on the plain, which means that our infrastructure, roads and bridges will not suffer from heavy American tanks.

That's really "joy" ... bridges, infrastructure will not suffer! And this is said by the military ???

[White man]

It seems that, among other things, the Poles are still trying to maintain the primacy of the military stand in Europe against Russia. Under this it is good to knock out pennies from Europe and the states. The terrible dream of Poland is an independent country in NATO and, accordingly, the main competitor for good loans.

[albert]

Smolensk is a grave for Poles. Apparently psheks have forgotten this proverb.

[Klingon]

Do they seriously think that Russia will happen that will attack such wedges as in WWII? If anything goes to the Poles, then it will fly from heaven, even where you place the tanks, Iskander does not care ... Well, except to bury 200 meters in the ground, so they would buy an underground version

[Klingon]

Quote: carstorm 11

That tactical ammunition will fly to the place of accumulation?) Of course they know. The concentration on the border of the armored forces will immediately be regarded as dangerous. You have to be finished to go for something like that.

So many things can fly, from FABs and Tornadoes to Iskander, here we have a wide choice, we will scrupulously calculate based on economic feasibility, so that it means cheap and angry

[Castro Ruiz]

This vyskazanie bravado is not a very smart person.

[dub0vitsky]

Something no one paid attention to the fact that this hussar wants to place tanks ON THE PLAIN, so that they do not spoil bridges and roads. Rather, why he so desired it. The answer is simple. He does not intend to take them with him when he retreats. And he understands well what will happen to them in the event ... Apparently, while studying at the academies, he learned the experience of the ancient commanders who ferried their army across the river to the enemy's bank. So that their warriors do not have the temptation to shake off the massacre.

[Cat]

Recall that earlier Poland decided to purchase Abrams tanks from the United States of America.

Please announce the number of purchased tanks - I would like to estimate how many tanks will fall on 1 km of the "Smolensk Gate"

[Vitamin]

There, a fluffy animal with valuable fur will come to these tanks.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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Abrams tanks in the "Smolensk Gate" are waiting for their Susanin ...
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[Maikcg]

The secret wunderwaffe "Ivan Susanin" has already been placed on the "Warsaw direction".

[Rusnemez]

Well, that's fine ... heavy Abrams will hang out there in the hands of pshek ... and what? Don't give a damn ... missiles ...

[Ross xnumx]

It is hard to imagine what emotions the Polish authorities would have if the Russian Defense Minister allowed himself to announce the deployment of Russian T-90 or T-14 Armata tanks in the Warsaw direction.

Enough guessing and guessing. You need to post and respond appropriately. Let it go to the bile. It's time to take Russophobia for granted and teach to love Russia and the Russian language by all available means, regardless of sanctions and sour mines in the West and overseas.
Examples in our world are darkness!

[Joker62]

Quote: Captive

Not enough, the pioneers will plant.

There were pioneers in the past, even under the USSR ... And now, instead of pioneers, Boy Scouts are being produced ... And what exactly will be planted is still a question ... But in any case, birches will definitely be planted ...

[Yaro Polk]

They have Russia as an aggressor, don't mix it up.

[Yaro Polk]

They f35 ftyuhali without missiles, and Abrams apparently will ride through the swamps without shells.

[victor_47]

Psheks should be notified that when they try to drive through these "gates" on the Abrams, they will immediately receive N-megatons in Warsaw.

[Borisych]

Figs with them, Warsaw is within reach of Iskander, 250 Abrams will not help here. The Panamas were told that they would hit the decision-making centers.

[1536]

Well, it remains only to wait for the appearance of Napoleon / Hitler 2.0 in Europe, who will move the entire accumulated military Euroarmada to the East? Maybe the Poles hope that this time it will be a Polish citizen? So they want to be "in charge."

[lelik613]

The pan of Smolensk birch is in a hurry to subscribe for himself.

[saint06]

Phantom pain across Smolensk.