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Whose will the Arctic be?

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Another congestion has begun - they say, we have more rights to the Arctic, we build icebreakers for the full presence, etc. All this is of course good for the northern sea route and no more. The root of the problem lies in the inadequate response to the actions of our overseas friends, who have been rattling steel around the world for 20 for years, and at the same time as the legal norms, which, in turn, Russia does not neglect! As long as we look at the delicate women's bodies and share the shelf with the Norwegians and other countries, friends from overseas have once again shown the world, and most importantly, how they can spit on everything that goes against their development strategy. In this case: “The fundamental document regulating the conditional division of maritime space (including the Arctic), which is the“ United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea ”, is a kind of“ set of rules ”according to which all coastal states agreed to define their own boundaries. However, the United States did not ratify the convention, which, on the one hand, does not allow Americans to claim their rights to the continental shelf north of Alaska, and, on the other hand, it “unleashes” in relation to the whole of the Far North. ” earlier, Asashai “untied his hands” and try to say something against ...

A very interesting point is where the current development of the north by the imperialists begins ... of course with the increase in military power in Alaska: "A vivid example: March 26 2012 terrain, to identify enemy ground targets for further targeting of SDB 22 kg bombs on them). Not surprisingly, the first updated aircraft received the 113 squadron of the 525 th wing of the combined base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska. There is no reason to worry, because bombs are needed for making ice holes in multi-meter ice, aren’t they?

Interestingly, in the light of recent developments around missile defense and in general of the American presence around the world, i.e. around Russia, we have already asked America to confirm that the increase in the military contingent in Alaska is in no way directed against us ...? Or, anyway, we’ll stop scaring, as it is American-style, American's ass kissing friends in the form of Poland and others. place? So can we move on to the practice of our Far Eastern neighbors and simply squeeze what we want in the Arctic, until the same neighbors are ahead of us, not to mention Asashai? And what about the renaming of the Arctic Ocean?
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  1. vladeinord
    vladeinord 6 September 2012 06: 56
    +12
    I remember the map of the USSR, from one end of the country to the other there was a border to the North Pole, and no one once blabbed. And now what's the matter, ayuu guide- "edrit madrit" !!!
    1. Igorboss16
      Igorboss16 6 September 2012 07: 25
      -1
      our arctic and point
      1. yak69
        yak69 6 September 2012 09: 36
        0
        In order for the point to become bold and final it is necessary (the point) to argue it with the Iskander, S-400 and additional air bases in Chukotka.
        1. nikoli25
          nikoli25 6 September 2012 13: 37
          0
          can also poplars
    2. predator
      predator 6 September 2012 07: 30
      +7
      “... The President flew over the Ob on a motor hang-glider, leading a flock of Siberian Cranes, and after that he told Izvestia why it was easier to fly the fighter.

      Vladimir Putin took part in the Flight of Hope experiment, which is taking place on the banks of the Ob in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. Every year, 150 km from Salekhard, ornithologists release the nestlings of white cranes (cranes) raised in the nursery and teach them how to fly. ... "
      The leadership has more "important" tasks than some northern borders!
      1. esaul
        esaul 6 September 2012 07: 55
        +3
        I remember very well the phrase of Mikhail Leontyev from yesterday’s Internet

        THE BEST IMAGE IN OUR COUNTRY WAS Perestroika, with Gorbachev!

        Do you want a repeat?

        Probably you, HYSHNIK, give you a good pleasure to try the current smear the prestige of Russia on the wall ...

        Personally, I do not see anything wrong with the fact that the president flew on a hang glider. Obama is fighting for a healthy lifestyle, eating vegetables from his personal garden and no one tells him - "Found something to do! There are other things to do!"
        Raised differently. Although - again - not everything, like ours.
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 6 September 2012 08: 09
          0
          Quote: esaul
          Obama fights for a healthy lifestyle by eating vegetables from a private garden

          My friend! I wonder what Obama is watering his beds with. Maybe his honey beer, which he treats everyone !? laughing
          1. esaul
            esaul 6 September 2012 08: 19
            -1
            Quote: tronin.maxim
            Maybe his honey beer, which he treats everyone to.


            Hello buddy! Cool question and, as an addition to my words. Well, Obama is watering his garden beds (as one of the members of the forum put it - "Our agent is Obama"!), Most likely a derivative from drinking beer ...
            Logically, based on the words of the Predator

            it would be better to plant a garden ...

            - Our same should be engaged in watering the beds in this way? ... laughing
        2. predator
          predator 6 September 2012 08: 17
          -1
          It was said about one French king that he would like to be a baby at birth, at a wedding, a bride, and at the funeral, a dead man!
          It’s not a royal thing, to fly with birds, it would be better to plant a garden ...
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 45
            +1
            Quote: predator
            It’s not a royal thing, to fly with birds, it would be better to plant a garden ...

            I agree! I won’t look that they’re either walking around the yards or wandering somewhere else; I am offended by our power! Should you do this? request
        3. NICK
          NICK 6 September 2012 08: 36
          +9
          Quote: esaul
          Obama is fighting for a healthy lifestyle, eating vegetables from his personal garden and no one tells him - "Found something to do! There are other things to do!" They were brought up differently. Although - again - not everything is like ours.

          Your ESAUL sincere admiration for the American president and the American way of life causes some bewilderment. Of course, I also would like Obama to not be engaged in politics and state administration, but to sit on the beds, like our gardeners are summer residents, but it’s somehow immoral to transfer the American way of life to Russian soil. When the next time Putin picks up a chick and personally feeds the homeless or personally climbs to eliminate a blockage in the sewage system, you will probably get out of it. My opinion is that everyone should do their job - a plumber to eliminate blockages, an ornithologist to deal with birds, and the president to lead the state. Only when everyone will carry out their work professionally (and will not go there in which he is clearly not an expert) can something be achieved.
          1. esaul
            esaul 6 September 2012 09: 10
            -2
            NICK,

            I am making amendments to your post in order to neutralize the offensive negativity in it and to avoid "escalation of tension" and delete a few words.
            I think you should teach Putin how to rule the state. Then you go out with oil ...
            1. NICK
              NICK 6 September 2012 09: 33
              +1
              esaul,
              What kind of words? Everything seems to be in place.
              Quote: esaul
              I think you should teach Putin how to rule the state.

              Why not? (if the top picks are trying to replace professionals) By the way, Putin in an interview thanked the cranes for their action - GOOD FELLOWS! Interestingly, if he hadn’t been followed by (cranes), would he call them the orange-swamp scum paid by the US State Department?
              And I don’t run out of oil, if only then at work.
              1. esaul
                esaul 6 September 2012 10: 19
                -1
                Quote: NICK
                What kind of words? Everything seems to be in place.


                This suggests that you "do not know what you are doing", colleague, if you do not remember what you wrote a minute earlier belay

                Quote: NICK
                And I do not leave oil


                And where did you get the idea that I proceed? Because you wanted to express your thoughts more poignantly? So - a flag in your hands, colleague!

                Quote: NICK
                only then at work.


                Sweat on health, I only welcome when a person is working. I don’t hit the buck.
                I wish you success. hi
                1. NICK
                  NICK 6 September 2012 11: 01
                  0
                  esaul,
                  You probably have a lot of experience doing a good face in a bad game. In my published comment, there weren’t any words or signs (which you supposedly deleted). And why do you think that oil is obscene? Does the communist past not let go?
          2. Z.A.M.
            Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 09: 37
            0
            NICK (2)
            Esaulu -
            Quote: NICK
            When next time Putin picks up a cook and personally feeds the homeless or personally climbs to eliminate sewage clogging, you’ll probably go out of oil

            ... an erection and ... ejaculation will occur.
            I do not insult, and I do not scoff. So clearly positive, to erect, in a very out of place, promoted "flight", this is something.
            What else, Esaul, wants answers addressed to him. And, Putin himself, leading the flight of "cranes", what kind of responses are waiting for? ...
            Get it, Mr. President ...
          3. Z.A.M.
            Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 09: 58
            +4
            NICK (2)

            10 minutes ago, joined your comment and ADDED -

            Z.A.M. (1) Today, 09:37 ↑ ↓ new
            NICK (2)
            Esaulu -
            Quote: NICK
            When next time Putin picks up a cook and personally feeds the homeless or personally climbs to eliminate sewage clogging, you’ll probably go out of oil

            ... POLUTION will come, in the night ...
            I do not insult, and I do not scoff. So clearly positive, to erect, in a very out of place, promoted "flight", this is something. What else, Esaul, wants answers addressed to him. And, Putin himself, leading the flight of "cranes", what kind of responses are waiting for? ...
            Get it, Mr. President ...
            I was "erased". Nothing, I'll write again.
            negative
            1. esaul
              esaul 6 September 2012 10: 11
              +1
              Quote: Z.A.M.
              I was "erased". Nothing, I'll write again.

              Quote: Z.A.M.
              satisfaction will come.

              ZAM, I erased Esaul because the last time was written in other words. If this comment were a repetition of the same verbatim, then I would have erased it or would raise before the Admin the question of the bath for your person.
              And this comment, although in your best traditions, has the right to life. Now I can even see the depth and subtlety of your worldview ...
              1. Z.A.M.
                Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 10: 33
                0
                esaul

                Quote: esaul
                ZAM, I erased Esaul because the last time was written in other words. If this comment were a repetition of the same verbatim, then I would have erased it or would raise before the Admin the question of the bath for your person.
                And this comment, although in your best traditions, has the right to life. Now I can even see the depth and subtlety of your worldview ...


                Look, you even got + from me.
                But ... let's not curse ... strongly, why? The world is peace, the soldier is demobilized.
                Quote: esaul
                would raise before the Admin the question of the bath for your person.

                Scare the hedgehog's boot, have you decided? ... drinks
                1. esaul
                  esaul 6 September 2012 10: 48
                  -1
                  Quote: Z.A.M.
                  But ... let's not curse ... strongly, why? Peace - peace, soldier - demobilization

                  Anton, I like these phrases more ... drinks Plus
        4. nycsson
          nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 42
          +4
          Quote: esaul
          Obama is fighting for a healthy lifestyle, eating vegetables from his personal garden and no one tells him - "Found something to do! There are other things to do!"

          Incorrect comparison! Obama has everything under control! The USA is doing its dirty deeds according to plan. And they succeed in everything, unlike us ......... So he can plant beds, and our "figures" need to work 25 hours a day, trying to pull the country out of the cesspool into which they put it ..........
        5. tan0472
          tan0472 6 September 2012 10: 29
          +1
          Quote: esaul
          Personally, I do not see anything wrong with the fact that the president flew on a hang glider.

          And I can't see. Only there are things that are more important and less important. It seems to me that building shelters for dogs at public expense, when large families huddle in small apartments, is idiocy. If there are no more important problems in the country than "teaching" cranes to fly, then of course it is possible, of course, and "deltoplan". IMHO.
        6. klimpopov
          klimpopov 6 September 2012 11: 18
          +1
          Yeah, and brews beer. In general, I would have been the president, and would have flown into space, but why just 4, sorry, you’ve been living for six years (just kidding)
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 38
        +2
        Quote: predator
        The leadership has more "important" tasks than some northern borders!

        Do not speak! As if the president and the prime minister have nothing more to do ?! request
      3. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 09: 24
        +2
        predator
        Quote: predator
        "... The President flew on a hang-glider over the Ob,

        Yes, yes, yes ... Also, in the morning, I looked ... In addition to a bitter grin, those who still STILL believe in him did not cause what they saw.
        1. slas
          slas 6 September 2012 12: 06
          -2
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          In addition to a bitter grin, over those who still believe in him, what he saw did not cause.

          Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix? ;-) How many birds are there talking? 20 individuals? Well, he bought a hang-glider for his own. Is it good or not? (talk about what kind of money is left for later or you tell me that if you lived in his place like a traffic policeman from the TV series "Our Russia" ??? Did he help scientists or not? And so on You can talk and argue a lot defending your opinion But who didn’t say anything during his presidency, at least wearing the symbols of the country and the words RUSSIA on clothes, at least NOT ashamed as it was at the end of the Union and then throughout the 90s This vision from my bell tower I don’t expect an answer and don’t have to sulk then so
          1. Karabin
            Karabin 6 September 2012 12: 25
            0
            Quote: slas
            minimum NOT ashamed as it was at the end of the Union

            Here you are wrong, at the end of the Union, wearing Soviet symbols on clothes was not shameful, moreover, it was fashionable. However, this did not prevent the collapse.
            1. slas
              slas 6 September 2012 20: 39
              0
              Quote: Karabin
              Here you are wrong, at the end of the Union, wearing Soviet symbols on clothes of shame

              Nah, uv Karabin was just ashamed they loved their homeland, but openly with the wearing of symbols, except for the SA, it can be different, but in the late 80s I traveled a little along the Union Western did it, and even salivating flowed Someone had less somewhere but
          2. Z.A.M.
            Z.A.M. 7 September 2012 08: 39
            0
            slas


            Quote: slas
            and the words RUSSIA on clothes
            lol

            Do you understand what you wrote? What language is Russia written in? In Russian? You are proud when you see - RUSSIA? Me not.
        2. cool.cube2012
          cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 14: 09
          +1
          Moscow, September 05 (New Region, Svetlana Petrova) - The upcoming flight of President Putin on a hang glider led by a flock of captive-raised Siberian Cranes - cranes listed in the Red Book, became the object of ridicule and mockery by Runet users.

          Bloggers honored this next PR event, demonstrating Putin’s concern for the flora and fauna, a sea of ​​evil and vicious comments: “ё * any pi * dec! He has nothing more to do ?! ”; “All problems in the country have been resolved, now it's time for fun”; “I see no reason for delight. All this is very sad. A new stage of insanity ”; “So this is his main occupation - to work as the main clown, jumping and jumping, while serious people are busy with business - they steal”; "The next action will be" Vladimir Vladimirovich and members of the Federation Council nest with eagles and scavenger condors on the mountain peaks of the Caucasus ", as well as" on a submarine (at the helm, of course) will go to the shores of Antarctica to adopt cubs of emperor penguins. "

          “It seems that with his behavior he (Putin) is trying to show everyone that it’s better not to mess with him, they say he’s so unpredictable, he can create any unknown x *** th,” comments Nave.

          Dissatisfied sarcastically predict that "Medvedev and a flock of beavers will soon go out to extinguish forest fires."
          1. slas
            slas 6 September 2012 16: 37
            -2
            Quote: cool.cube2012
            "E * any pi * dec!

            Quote: cool.cube2012
            A new stage of insanity

            Quote: cool.cube2012
            can create any unknown x *** y

            Quote: cool.cube2012
            work as a main clown

            Speaking the same language with them, I want to say: With you clowns zapadlo in the same field is not something to talk fool
      4. Karabin
        Karabin 6 September 2012 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: predator
        .President flew on a motor hang glider over the Ob

        Over the gray-haired Ob plain
        Proudly roars B To Putin.
        Type of lightning similar!
        1. cool.cube2012
          cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 13: 56
          -2
          Employees of the Oka State Nature Reserve, where Siberian Cranes are growing chicks, said several birds were crippled or died due to Putin’s Flight of Hope. According to biologists, it turned out that the birds suffered as a result of transportation to the flight site with the president.

          In addition, as reported by a biofaca student Maria Goncharova, one crane fell into the hang glider propeller, on which they forgot to install protection. “Another broke his beak and tore off its claws on a curved aviary net (and many simply peeled into blood and slivers),” Goncharova writes on the Vkontakte page,
          1. tan0472
            tan0472 6 September 2012 14: 51
            -1
            Quote: cool.cube2012
            “Another broke his beak and tore off its claws on a curved aviary net (and many simply peeled into blood and slivers),” Goncharova writes on the Vkontakte page,

            Please tell me who is Goncharova from "Vkontakte". She really knows it or so "Internet balabolka". If the latter, then quoting it does not paint you. I doubt that bird watchers who have been breeding Siberian Cranes for many years allowed everything that you described.
            1. cool.cube2012
              cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 15: 15
              -1
              tan0472 here is the link http://www.nr2.ru/ekb/402556.html on this subject are already many info
              1. tan0472
                tan0472 6 September 2012 15: 29
                -1
                "Mnogoinfy" is not an argument for me. These "mnogoinfy" reported that during the flood in Krymsk, the victims amounted to tens of thousands, "and the authorities are hiding everything."
                Moreover, specific blogs were named where these "witnesses to the crimes of the bloody regime" described facts that were not subsequently confirmed. And if someone organizes a "multi-information" that you are a pedophile - will you believe it or will you demand specific facts?
      5. bamboo
        bamboo 6 September 2012 12: 50
        -3
        huh))) it is better to take penguins by the wing in the Arctic for a walk, and stroked a white bear than taught to fly parrots)))
      6. cool.cube2012
        cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 17: 50
        0
        Putin's journey with wild cranes is a prime example of power inadequacy
        11:21 September 6.09.2012, XNUMX, Pavel Svyatenkov


        People who believe that the country is waiting for insanity, received new arguments

        The most important thing in the crane is its long nose. The blogosphere exploded with comments when people found out that President Vladimir Putin intends to lead a flock of Siberian Cranes in the Flight of Hope project. For this purpose, he was given a white robe and a special beak (on the video of the Russia Today television channel, however, the beak was not visible). It was assumed that the cranes recognize the head of the Russian state as the leader ...

        No, the author of these lines is not a drug addict, and did not drink anything stronger than tea. The president did indeed fly a hang glider yesterday, and majestic white birds barely kept up with him. Cranes, by the way, in Soviet poetry it was customary to extol: "It sometimes seems to me that the soldiers, who did not come from the bloody fields, once fell into our land, but turned into white cranes." I wrote these lines from memory. People of my generation are known by heart. Putin clearly had in mind her when he sat on a hang glider. Say, the leader communicates with the spirits of their ancestors.
        1. cool.cube2012
          cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 17: 54
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          extension

          However, bloggers soon recalled the famous fairy tale Caliph-Stork. Let me remind you that her hero was able to turn into different animals thanks to the witching potion, presented by an evil wizard. It was necessary to smell the powder, pronounce the magic word "mutabor" - and the ruler became a fish or a spider. There was only one condition - do not laugh. But in the image of a stork, the caliph became amused, watching the bird dance, and forgot the magic word.

          Why should the modern Harun al-Rashid take the form of a crane? In fact, there is nothing complicated about this. The caliph took the form of a stork for fun: the ruler suffered from boredom. And Putin kills two cranes at once. Firstly, the ruler, whose country will celebrate his 60th birthday this year, demonstrates that he is still “young and healthy.” In Russia, 60 years is the age at which men retire. Putin wants to show that he’s not going to rest. It is with this purpose that they increase the length of tenure of senior officials in the civil service. Soon, the highest posts can be held up to 70 years, so that no one could say that it is time for the ruler to retire.

          Mao Zedong in a similar situation swam across the Yangtze River to show the people: there is gunpowder in the powder flasks. True, the great helmsman was already over 80 years old.

          The second crane is a demonstration of leadership, even among animals. After all, Siberian Cranes should have recognized Putin as the leader of the pack. Say, the birds obey the president. Against such a background, people are ashamed to go to protest demonstrations, when even cranes see that Putin is our president.

          The many years of Putin’s PR campaign has been brilliant until now. The President rides in powerful cars - airplanes, submarines. Posing against a background of beautiful, strong animals - tigers, sturgeons. Now - the cranes. He had not flown with birds yet.
          1. cool.cube2012
            cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 17: 56
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            continued Why is this needed? The answer is banal. In sociology, there is a common trick: respondents are asked to compare a leader with an animal. And it’s immediately clear how people relate to him and what the ruler’s image problems are.

            For example, if a deputy is called a rat - he is pathetic, mean, crayon and bite in the eyes of people. And if they say that he is a tiger or a dragon, it means that citizens believe that power is behind him.

            At one time in Moscow, a survey was conducted of what people consider Luzhkov to be. Personally, it seemed to me that the mayor should be perceived as a bear. Strong, economic, home-made ... It turned out not. Respondents answered that Luzhkov was a beaver. A beaver is a rodent. Everything drags into the house, everything for the family. Bottom line: the Moscow mayor does not work for the capital, but for himself personally.

            The image of the mayor has been sharply revised. It was then that a sticky honey theme arose. The beekeeper mayor, the mayor is a lover of honey. "Мёёёёёёёёд", "мёёёёёёёёд"! .. Why all this nonsense? Yes, then, to adjust the image from the greedy “beaver” to a more acceptable “bear”. The bear is big, strong, kind (albeit a little stupid). Of course, this is not about a real animal, but about a fairy tale character. On this image Luzhkov lasted a decade.

            Putin does not associate himself rigidly with a particular animal. Previously, he always tried to pose against the backdrop of powerful representatives of the fauna. The tigress is a powerful animal. Associating with a tiger is always a plus. Sturgeon - “king fish”. Good too.

            Cranes on this background stand out for their absurdity. If we continue the line of Putin’s PR, the president needs to fly exclusively with eagles or, in extreme cases, falcons. In Russian fairy tales, the crane is poorly represented. I recall only the “Fox and the Crane”, where the latter treated the fox with potatoes located at the bottom of the jug with a narrow neck. Naturally, the crane ate everything and the fox did not leave anything. She, however, did not remain in debt, having treated the Kumanka with semolina, spread on a plate. The crane could not peck the porridge, but the fox smartly licked the plate. It is impossible to extract any specific image of a crane from this story.

            The only clear image of a crane can be extracted from the old adage “Better a tit in a hand than a crane in the sky”. That is, the crane is a symbol of an unattainable dream.

            In the Soviet world, crane is a vivid symbol of the afterlife, ancestors, and those who died in the war. “I remember we fell silent in the middle of the lesson: a white wedge was floating in the window in the distance. Apparently, cranes serve man as hope and reproach. ”

            Therefore, the transformation of Putin into a crane should be considered unsuccessful. If this is communication with the spirits of Soviet ancestors, then it is painfully pagan. If the demonstration of idealism is too sophisticated. And the status of the leader of cranes is strange for the president of Russia. Mowgli, a human cub, led a wolf pack. But Kipling's wolves are a free people, the embodiment of nobility ...
            1. cool.cube2012
              cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 17: 58
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              extension

              In short, the president’s PR service did not think of all the consequences of a crane flight on Putin’s image. Of course, the head of state was ridiculed before, even for posing against the backdrop of tigers, but now it seems that laughter is getting nervous. Obsessive tales that Putin will be given a special beak, which even the official media dabbled in, show that the line that distinguishes good PR from schiza has been crossed in Putin’s “animalistic” position.

              However, this is natural. In any Western film about a superhero (for example, Spider-Man), one rule is always strictly observed: a positive character should not mutate. What does it mean? Spider-man does not become a spider. It only acquires the conditionally "spider" ability - to quickly run, jump, climb walls, etc. Even the "spider web" of Spider-Man is the result of the operation of special devices on his wrists, and not spider glands, as one might think, based on the pseudonym of a superhero.

              And the opponents of Spider-Man are always mutants in the literal sense, that is, monsters and

              Putin’s PR people, against their own will, positioned Putin not as a superhero, but as a “bad guy”, giving him a “beak” and “wings”. Therefore, the mass consciousness is heavily frustrated, which causes laughter in blogs and ridicule in the media.

              Instead of a planned demonstration of leadership and good physical fitness, Putin showed dangerous inadequacy - so far of his own environment. Of course, flying with cranes is just an episode, and it will be forgotten, but the sediment will remain. People who say that insanity awaits the country will receive new arguments, and the educated part of society, who has always considered Putin a rational person and a rational ruler, will look at him with caution. After all, the persecution of the opposition and flights with cranes are about to begin to develop into a single puzzle.
              1. Igarr
                Igarr 6 September 2012 19: 04
                -1
                Much has been written, cool.cube2012.
                Well written.
                ..
                Investigators will not have to do anything special.
                Zer Gut.
                Write ... ischo.
                1. cool.cube2012
                  cool.cube2012 6 September 2012 23: 50
                  -1
                  Igarr, you flatter me the source from here http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/09/06/puteshestvie-putina-s-dikimi-zhuravlyami-ya
                  rkii-primer-neadekvatnosti-vlasti
      7. Ilyich
        Ilyich 6 September 2012 19: 59
        -1
        Quote: predator
        Vladimir Putin took part in the Flight of Hope experiment, which is taking place on the banks of the Ob in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. Every year, 150 km from Salekhard, ornithologists release the nestlings of white cranes (cranes) raised in the nursery and teach them how to fly. ... "
        The leadership has more "important" tasks than some northern borders!

        ... and no one thought about why Putin did this. Given the APEC summit, and given how important this symbol is for Far Eastern civilizations.
        The main thing is to shout louder that the power of nichrome does not winked
        Use your brains! In politics, nothing happens by chance!
        In China and Japan they attach great importance to symbols. They have such a civilization wink
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 September 2012 07: 55
      0
      Quote: vladeinord

      I remember the map of the USSR, from one edge of the country to the other there was a border to the north pole and no one had blown away

      They simply did not know then that there was oil and gas. Yes, and the leadership is not particularly silent, there are enough submarines for all their tricks, and the Amers have no money to develop the Arctic, so no more chatter.
      1. starpom
        starpom 6 September 2012 08: 26
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        there are enough submarines for all their tricks

        The fact of the matter is that it will not be enough. Better ask how many boats are ready to go to sea at the moment. For example, in the near future they are trying to shove a 20-year-old girl onto the BS (she has never been repaired in the middle). Therefore, they fussed with construction. But this is not a tank or even a spaceship to build.
    4. vadimus
      vadimus 6 September 2012 08: 20
      +1
      No need to crush the female organs, it is necessary to show the bolt, in Russian, as before ....
    5. nycsson
      nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 36
      0
      Quote: vladeinord
      And now what's the matter, ayuu guide- "edrit madrit" !!!

      The incompetence of this guide! I am sure of this in all 100 .....
    6. vadimus
      vadimus 6 September 2012 09: 11
      0
      Of course, it’s not worthwhile to knock on the podium with a slipper, but the bruises of the time have passed. Let it be firmly understood that we won’t give it back, otherwise these sharks will not only chop off their hand ...
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 6 September 2012 09: 16
        0
        Quote: vadimus
        Of course, it’s not worth it to knock on the podium with a slipper, but the bruises of the time have passed.

        This time has passed since the bombing of Yugoslavia!
        Quote: vadimus
        Let it be firmly understood that we won’t give it back, otherwise these sharks will not only chop off their hand ...

        Well, who's stopping? Let them make it clear .......... Only in practice, we observe a completely different ...........
    7. Ataturk
      Ataturk 6 September 2012 10: 24
      -2
      ]
      Quote: vladeinord
      I remember the map of the USSR, from one end of the country to the other there was a border to the North Pole, and no one once blabbed. And now what's the matter, ayuu guide- "edrit madrit" !!!


      The answer is this.

      1. The Arctic does not need Russia
      2. An order or something like that was given so that Russia would not touch the Arctic
      3. Russia is not able to fight for the Arctic.

      Where the truth is, God alone knows.
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 10: 37
        -1
        Ataturk

        Quote: Ataturk
        Where the truth is, God alone knows.

        Putin, tried to ask God for this ... on a hang glider ... accompanied by cranes ... lol
        At least the crane thanked: "Well done!"
        1. urzul
          urzul 6 September 2012 10: 50
          +1
          You know once, well, twice, but 10 times you’re not tired of repeating the same thing yourself?
          Or you toad strangling you did not take;)
      2. urzul
        urzul 6 September 2012 10: 43
        0
        Can you support your thesis with arguments?
    8. urzul
      urzul 6 September 2012 10: 44
      +2
      At that time, that oil was of no interest to anyone, and the Americans were swimming in the Arctic without any hesitation.
      Only the fact is that only we had this line.
      1. esaul
        esaul 6 September 2012 10: 51
        -1
        Quote: urzul
        Can you support your thesis with arguments?

        Quote: urzul
        At that time, that oil was of no interest to anyone, and the Americans were swimming in the Arctic without any hesitation. Only the fact is that only we had this line.


        I am very sorry that I can’t deliver yet another plus, colleague! A plus.
        The necessary arguments and sensible questions.
    9. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 6 September 2012 10: 49
      0
      Yeah, now it’s also painted like that, called the polar possessions of the Russian Federation. It is necessary to plant poplars in this garden, so that it would be clear that they were watching the summer cottage!
  2. Normal
    Normal 6 September 2012 07: 04
    +2
    In order to be reckoned with, you need to be strong. And we thought that we should be rich. So they correct us.
    The old song will begin now; "not all at once" "funds have been allocated for the purchase of weapons" "increased attention is paid to the military-industrial complex" "The leadership is concerned about the defense capability" and so on. But in fact, GDP teaches birds to fly. This greatly contributes to the advancement of our interests in the international arena. Can you imagine that Stalin would do something like that?
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 6 September 2012 07: 16
      -2
      People, can you even think constructively?
      There are official borders of the Russian Federation and they do not extend in any way to everything beyond the Arctic Circle.
      Invading the borders of a sovereign state means automatically declaring war on that state, with all the ensuing consequences and nuclear capabilities ...
      1. Andrei.B
        6 September 2012 09: 31
        -1
        Lev Ponomarev, is that you ???
  3. sv-sakh
    sv-sakh 6 September 2012 07: 04
    -5
    Quote: The author of this nonsense writes:
    After all, bombs are needed in order to make an ice hole in ice many meters high, aren't they?

    After these lines I did not read.
    Author, can you read Murzilka’s magazine?
    Raptors bomb the ice with precision bombs ... Yes, it doesn’t fit my head !! laughing fool
    An article of a thousand minuses ...
    1. travels
      travels 6 September 2012 07: 13
      +4
      Tovarisch sarcasm in the phrase quoted by you would distinguish even a child of 11 years old !! Do you judge the author's mental abilities?
      1. sv-sakh
        sv-sakh 6 September 2012 07: 22
        -1
        So much the worse for the author. Which believes that with the help of several squadrons of Raptors in Alaska, the balance of power in the region can be shifted. laughing
        After all, this is a universal conspiracy !!)) All this is directed precisely against Russia :) A raptor is a doomsday weapon.
        1. slas
          slas 6 September 2012 07: 47
          0
          Quote: sv-sakh
          So much the worse for the author. Which suggests that with the help of several squadrons of Raptors in Alaska, it is possible to shift the balance of power in the laughing region
          After all, this is a universal conspiracy !!)) All this is directed precisely against Russia :)

          On the one hand, I agree with you, it seems like there is a lot of panic (Aaaa right now we are all captured). And on the other hand, in some places satiro-humorously reminds that "raslabon" will be expensive)
          1. esaul
            esaul 6 September 2012 08: 22
            -2
            Quote: slas
            "raslabon


            What kind of relaxation are you talking about, colleague ?! If you have a desire, I will once again throw off the links ...
            1. slas
              slas 6 September 2012 12: 20
              -1
              Quote: esaul
              If you have a desire, I will once again throw off the links.

              With pleasure, but I don’t remember the first time on the links ;-)))
      2. esaul
        esaul 6 September 2012 07: 33
        -1
        Quote: gezer
        Tovarisch sarcasm in the phrase quoted by you would distinguish even a child of 11 years !!


        Gennady, I welcome you. Yes, Sergey, just understood this poisonous irony
        Quote: gezer
        The author?


        In addition to irony, "The Author" tried to simply squeeze an anti-Russian article under the sauce of the author's heartache. But, if we take into account the fact with what hatred, in his howling, the "Author" spoke about the riot police who dispersed the white-ribbon procession and called them "defenders of the bloody" (what words! Already trembling on the back!) article does not cause surprise ... I "irony" "author" very well "glanced".
    2. esaul
      esaul 6 September 2012 07: 20
      +2
      Quote: sv-sakh
      An article of a thousand minuses ...


      Greetings, Sergey and support your indignation. It’s a pity, in this case, that I can’t put one more plus to your comments now - I’ll do it later, after the allotted time limit.
      Thank you.
  4. esaul
    esaul 6 September 2012 07: 16
    0
    I’m very clear about Andrei’s desire with the feeling of a sadomasochist to quit his native country (About love for which he does not tire of ranting) across his back and to act as someone who knows how to react! But, thanks to him that he at least does not deny that

    for a full presence we build icebreakers, etc.

    Only in this case, "Etc." has much more content than Andrei wants to present him. This is the construction of icebreakers (in the technology of which Russia is ahead and this is not questioned by potential "friends"), and numerous measures to reanimate polar airfields and the creation and development of border posts.
    It’s impossible not to see all this, but the one who simply doesn’t want to see it ... Well, you won’t add brains forcibly. These guys have only a lasting desire to spew another tale from the OBS and powerlessly rape the government.
    Here’s what surprises me ... Once again they try to impress on us that

    "The fundamental document governing the conditional division of the sea space (including the Arctic), which is the" United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea ", which is a kind of" set of rules "according to which all coastal states agreed to define their own boundaries ...
    But

    However, the US has not ratified the convention, which, on the one hand, does not allow the Americans to claim their rights to the continental shelf north of Alaska, and on the other hand, “unties their hands” in relation to the entire Far North. " As simple as it was written earlier, Asashay “unties his hands” and try to say something against...

    They try to hammer us at what is done (criminally!) Not enough! With a show, Andrei knows who can do more! Do not tell, Andrey, and try to continue in articles Avoid words and phrases such as

    conjugation

    While we wrinkle delicate female organs


    This is not serious for a person who studied for seven years at the VVU and being a handshake by the teaching staff .... And yet - the editor ...

    And yet, I want to note that no one is already asking America for concessions and is not bending. The USA itself is now looking for opportunities to bend nicely and get out of stalemate situations into which it has been driven.

    Good morning to everyone and good luck to everyone, colleagues.
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 6 September 2012 07: 35
      +1
      And once again "not in the eyebrow, but in the eye."
      Already, I myself truly hate the current government of our Motherland and, by and large, I consider the current state of affairs in the country to be extremely unsatisfactory.
      However, such articles are a sarcastic "stuffing ... on the ventilator".
      Here are some times you read stuffing, because they are even correctly written and even somehow respect such traitors and instigators. But that ... is no good.
      PS "Asashay" - Well, you can write anything in the comments, but in the text of the article ... I would ban for such a vocabulary.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 35
      -1
      Quote: esaul
      And yet, I want to note that no one is already asking America for concessions and is not bending. The USA itself is now looking for opportunities to bend nicely and get out of stalemate situations into which it has been driven.

      Yes, they did not drive themselves anywhere, everything is going according to plan. The Arctic in the distant future .............
      Quote: esaul
      Good morning to everyone and good luck to everyone, colleagues.

      Mutually......
    3. NICK
      NICK 6 September 2012 08: 48
      -1
      Quote: esaul
      I really understand the desire of Andrei with a sense of sadomasochist to quit his native country

      Personally, for some reason I don’t understand such a yellow one (maybe because it’s not a sadomasochist). I wonder what other wishes do you understand?
    4. UAZ Patriot
      UAZ Patriot 6 September 2012 11: 47
      -1
      I was too lazy to write koment and lo and behold, you did it for me! lol
  5. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 6 September 2012 07: 42
    +6
    I don’t even know if it is possible to evaluate an article with 4 warnings in its “asset”?
    It is better not to recall the renaming of the Arctic Ocean - this proposal is not from a great mind ...
    I am generally surprised at what a hangover the border in the Arctic began to run differently from in our old geography textbooks - first they abandoned this border, then they gave up near Kamchatka, now they gave way to Norway! The further, the smaller the "character" looks, to which Russia should yield ...
    Soon, some islands of Tong will be presented with a show - but what, everyone can, but not the Papuans?
    The same teachings in the North - is it right now in the North? Or have Somali pirates advanced so far north? It was a matter, they showed the Germans how to go along the Northern Sea Route, then they themselves soon regretted it very soon - did historical experience teach anything?
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 6 September 2012 09: 50
      -1
      Brother Sarych

      Your comment - PLUS! I caught the irony.
      Join.
  6. taseka
    taseka 6 September 2012 07: 56
    0
    If we remove the sarcasm about the bombing in the ice, then the article itself about the northern geopolitics of the United States makes us think about the natural resources of the Arctic shelf which in the future will become a big contention in the foreign policy of the Russian Federation and America.
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 6 September 2012 08: 27
      +1
      And why there is no such contention, let’s say, in the Shtokman field? Or any other field in the Russian Federation?
      There are still good disputes over the border territories, when it is not clear from what to measure the border (the water area is so specific).
      But to say this about the northern water areas as a whole is to say that America plans to capture Kamchatka or the Kola Peninsula, and at the same time, dozens of other subjects of the Russian Federation are ruffled.
      All this is so absurd that it looks more like an attempt to divert to the North, forces that really should be in the South, and very ineptly.
      1. esaul
        esaul 6 September 2012 08: 34
        -1
        Quote: sv-sakh
        in general, it’s like saying that America plans to seize Kamchatka or the Kola Peninsula and, at the same time, snapping up a dozen more subjects of the Russian Federation.

        Quote: sv-sakh
        an attempt to divert to the North, forces that really should be in the South, and very ineptly.


        Sergey, now - you - not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! You will not be denied the ability to beat for sure, I am glad to congratulate you on this. Plus, a colleague.
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 6 September 2012 08: 52
          0
          Valery, I personally am very concerned about what is happening in the North Caucasus and south of these territories ...
          But it’s too late to worry about the Arctic .. in the 97th we lost the exclusive rights to the north (not without reason) and only those studies of the origin of the Lomonosov and Mendeleev ridges will help us return these very exclusive rights. Otherwise, we can only rely on territories that we sovereignly belong to in accordance with the Convention on the Law of the Sea and it is simply ridiculous to worry about these territories. There are so many hydrocarbons in these territories that it will be enough to feed all of Europe for a very long time ...
          To master the deeper north while no one in the world has the technology - you should not forget about it, but throwing all your strength into exploration of the north, forgetting about the rest - is criminal.
          And who knows, maybe an alternative source of energy will be found earlier than technologies for the development of the polar territories ...
          All this hysteria with the north is nothing more than hysteria, and as proof of this, the USA does not take any REAL development actions (well, except for laughter about the Raptors ... here without comment).
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 6 September 2012 08: 56
            +3
            The passion of sv-sakh is not quite clear.
            Shtokman field, any other ???
            Is it not known to whom and to what extent these deposits belong? Where does the "production" of these deposits go?
            You can, for the sake of interest, look at the Board of Directors ... whether Gazprom, Rosneft ...
            And in the article, even if I took out from it only a new expression for me (wrinkle delicate organs) - this is not about deposits.
            It's about the territory. Territorial integrity .. North latitudes.
            and here, with this integrity - really stress.
            That is, if there is no integrity, then the goods are valued differently.
            It is believed that soon the North will be ice-free in summer.
            And where will we be? With our best icebreakers in the world?
            At the South Pole?
            ...
            The border is locked until the intruder is afraid to get his teeth.
            Will cease to be afraid - will climb.
            We saw this picture perfectly in the Caucasus.
            ...
            So ... a distraction to the south I see with Mr. sv-sakh
            1. sv-sakh
              sv-sakh 6 September 2012 09: 14
              -2
              Why do not you be embarrassed by the heated debates in other topics in which I do not participate? If you read my words with hysterically-passionate intonation - these are your problems since I am absolutely calm.
              As for the problems of the North and the South, well, probably just this is my vision of the current moment, when, with the escalation of large forces in the southern region, more and more frequent injections about the POSSIBLE interests of the main participant in the "southern" events in the north occur ... Well, these are overt attempts to distract) ) Straight classics of the genre.
              If you worry about borders in general, then why focus on the north? in those territories that are not so easy to capture?
              It would be worth worrying just for the West, the Southwest and the Far East.
              Z.Y. Remind me when these U.S. submarines learned to walk under the ice?
              1. Igarr
                Igarr 6 September 2012 09: 30
                +1
                Well, here it is again - ".. my words with hysterically-passionate intonation - these are your problems because I am absolutely calm. "
                Did I write like that?
                US submariners began to walk under the ice of the Arctic Ocean before us, among other things.
                Another thing is that they did not want to continue to go there - it is dangerous.
                While we got comfortable there.
                .....
                The border is the beginning.
                We push the borders of the Russian Federation to the Arctic Circle - and the question of deposits will disappear by itself.
                And we can move to the border with Kazakhstan, right? Let the SLO question be a headache for Kazakhstan, right?
                Or Uzbekistan? Or Afghanistan? And there, already the USA. So let their head hurt?
                ...
                Set the flag at the bottom!
                Very good.
                But without the support of ice class warships, this is a PR move. No more.
                ...
                Squandering the borders and territories of the Russian Federation is not a state approach.
                1. Brother Sarych
                  Brother Sarych 6 September 2012 09: 37
                  0
                  And what is the state approach to in the country now?
  7. nycsson
    nycsson 6 September 2012 08: 48
    0
    People, be sure to watch this movie by Marat Musin!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SRjxPG0RQPM&NR=1
    Especially pay attention to how we will be removed from the gas market .........
  8. Igarr
    Igarr 6 September 2012 08: 54
    +1
    The passion of sv-sakh is not quite clear.
    Shtokman field, any other ???
    Is it not known to whom and to what extent these deposits belong? Where does the "production" of these deposits go?
    You can, for the sake of interest, look at the Board of Directors ... whether Gazprom, Rosneft ...
    And in the article, even if I took out from it only a new expression for me (wrinkle delicate organs) - this is not about deposits.
    It's about the territory. Territorial integrity .. North latitudes.
    and here, with this integrity - really stress.
    That is, if there is no integrity, then the goods are valued differently.
    It is believed that soon the North will be ice-free in summer.
    And where will we be? With our best icebreakers in the world?
    At the South Pole?
    ...
    The border is locked until the intruder is afraid to get his teeth.
    Will cease to be afraid - will climb.
    We saw this picture perfectly in the Caucasus.
    ...
    So ... a distraction to the south I see with Mr. sv-sakh.
  9. John from the USA
    John from the USA 6 September 2012 09: 28
    +2
    I have a SIMPLE question - what do you, you, maybe your children have from gas deposits in the Arctic region, nickel in the far north. Hydrocarbon deposits in the Arctic.

    Maybe I don’t understand something!
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 6 September 2012 09: 35
      0
      Quote: John from USA
      I have a SIMPLE question - what do you, you, maybe your children have from gas deposits in the Arctic region, nickel in the far north. Hydrocarbon deposits in the Arctic.

      The fact of the matter is that the Russian population does not have nichrome !!! For this thought you are only a plus!
      Quote: John from USA
      Maybe I don’t understand something!

      You all understand correctly. He has a president with oligarchs, and they throw us gnawed bones so that we would not die of hunger ....... crying
      1. John from the USA
        John from the USA 6 September 2012 11: 51
        -1
        It must be understood that the struggle for the Arctic is, first of all, a war for the money that provides raw materials, with the involvement of politicians of the highest echelon, military concerns and industrial oligarchs.
    2. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 6 September 2012 09: 42
      0
      Well, until 1917, the population also had little, and those who did, thought that this would go on forever - everything would change, it could very soon change again, and if "sworn friends" were strengthened there, then it would be somewhat more difficult to change ...
      I think that the current powers that be will most likely fuse everything to the West at a reactive pace - there are not very many chances to sit with such approaches to state interests, the only hope is that the West will stand up for its newly acquired "its" ...
      1. tan0472
        tan0472 6 September 2012 10: 48
        -1
        Quote: Brother Sarich
        Well, until 1917, too, the population had little,

        But the "having", fixed capital was kept in Russia, and not abroad. They bought "rembrants" and brought them to Russia. hi
    3. Фокус
      Фокус 6 September 2012 11: 57
      -1
      All states that climb into the northern shelf, also do not share with their people, but this does not mean that their people do not support them. And if you specifically answer the question, then the people receive income growth (because the economy is growing) and social benefits. And at the expense of that for each sold cube. gas or kg. nickel transfer to the accounts of citizens is complete nonsense (any competent economist can confirm). Communism is a more real idea than this one, this nonsense is protested by those who want a change of power, but they themselves never implement it, remember the popular slogan - "Land for peasants, factories for workers" is from the same "opera".
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 6 September 2012 14: 56
        -1
        Quote: Focus
        All states that climb into the northern shelf, also do not share with their people
        ........
        I do not agree with you ..... All citizens of the kingdom of Norway, from the moment of their birth, have rents from all the mining of this kingdom .... and nothing else ......
  10. baltika-18
    baltika-18 6 September 2012 10: 41
    +3
    Russia is slowly losing ground in the Arctic. Suffice it to recall the agreement with Norway in September 2010, according to which it lost about half the disputed zone in the Barents Sea (the total area of ​​the disputed zone is 175000 sq. Km). To this we should add that the treaty is drawn up so that in fact, it is a disguised denial of rights over the island of Spitsbergen (Paris Treaty of 1920) .This is another 200000 sq. km. All this was done under the statements about large Norwegian investments in the development of offshore deposits. In August 2012, the Norwegians announced their withdrawal from the project. Question: kidalovo? Betrayal? Both that and another?
    1. urzul
      urzul 6 September 2012 10: 57
      0
      Something you have a map and so on shows Svalbard on the Norwegian side.

      And here is a quote from Gazprom:
      The Norwegian company Statoil decided not to renew the joint agreement with Gazprom over the joint development of the Shtokman field in the Barents Sea expired in June. This actually means Statoil’s exit from the project, who once had high expectations from both company executives and Norwegian politicians, notes the Norwegian television channel NRK.
      In the 2007 year, when the shareholder agreement was concluded, Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg noted the importance of the project to strengthen energy cooperation between Russia and Norway, and the prospects for developing the field seemed truly fabulous.

      However, according to The Financial Times, it was "not the time, the wrong place, the wrong Statoil." Statoil Information Director Yannick Lindbeck in an interview with NRK said that the Norwegian company could not agree with Russian partners on the business case for the investment project. The role was played by technical conditions, financial considerations, and the tax specifics of Russia, Lindbeck said.

      According to political commentator Tom Hetland, the most important factor in the overall cost of the project was the reduction in gas prices. As a result, Statoil transferred its 24 percent of shares to Gazprom, having lost a billion kroons on the 2 project (about 335 million US dollars).

      But the Norwegians do not want to lose Shtokman - according to NRK, perhaps the largest gas field in the world. Yannick Lindbek emphasized that Statoil does not exclude the possibility of returning to the field in one way or another and continues to discuss this with Gazprom.
  11. sapulid
    sapulid 6 September 2012 11: 30
    +4
    A hackneyed topic. All the riches of the Arctic will be owned "de facto", another money bag, regardless of citizenship and the country to which "de jure" the territory will belong. Damn, the bowels belong to the people, according to the Constitution, however, only a few are getting rich on them. We are nothing but draft animals, worthy to shed our blood for the interests of the "chosen few." Centuries change, however, society remains unchanged.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 6 September 2012 12: 44
      -1
      Quote: sapulid
      A hackneyed topic. All the riches of the Arctic will be owned "de facto", the next money bag, regardless of citizenship and country, which "de jure" will own the territory.

      I agree about the money bag. At least if the riches of the Arctic belong to Russia, there is little chance of nationalization. But I have a strong suspicion that modern Russian authorities will not leave such a chance.
    2. Andrei.B
      6 September 2012 12: 50
      -2
      Damn, bowels, belong to the people, according to the Constitution, however, few get rich on them
      whose people will be ??? according to whose constitution ??? it is about securing Russia’s right to the Arctic (as soon as possible, until it’s been snapped up) and maintaining such a status.
  12. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 6 September 2012 12: 28
    +2
    What to do? .. What to do? .. The answer to this eternal Russian question has long been known - to build up military power in the Arctic. And you need to do this in three ways:
    1. Creation, equipping and training of units and subunits capable of performing combat missions in the Arctic. And here we are great behind Finland, Norway and even Holland. Sad but true. And it is necessary to reduce this lag in the shortest possible time with maximum results ...
    2. Construction of icebreaker class warships. It is already easier here, because there is experience. However, the ships in service are already outdated, if not outdated. And they need to be replaced anyway. The most suitable "candidate" for the ICR base of the icebreaker class is the expedition ship "Akademik Treshnikov" ...
    3. Increase the number (and preferably quality) of patrol aviation units ...

    And finally, not directly related to the military component - the maximum possible presence of Russian citizens in the Arctic territories. If there are no problems with the mainland, then with the island they are. And moreover, considerable. Other islands are completely uninhabited. And this in the current situation is not good ...
    I believe that in such uninhabited territories it is necessary to place at least temporary (shift) personnel - weather stations for example (will not be superfluous) or other scientific and research stations ...

    Naturally, all this requires three things - money, money, and again money. But the most important thing is political will and determination to defend our interests in the Arctic. But just the same, the current leadership of Russia (alas, ah! ..) I don’t see ...
  13. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 6 September 2012 12: 33
    +4
    Svezhachok !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It was just reported on Khabarovsk TV that Ishaev announced the construction of a new shipyard with a dry dock in the town of Bolshoy Kamen (this is between Vladivostok and Nakhodka), probably on the basis of Zvyozdochka ...
    The plant will build container ships with a displacement of more than 100 thousand tons, tankers with a displacement of more than 350 thousand tons, icebreakers and ice-class drilling platforms ...
    The cost of building the plant is more than 150 billion rubles.

    Such ships have never been built in the Far East - V. Ishaev

    So there!
    1. sapulid
      sapulid 7 September 2012 08: 47
      +1
      150 mm? You are not mistaken? For this money, you can only build an office, unfortunately. If we are talking about a DRY DOCK, then, at a minimum, this is excavation work with the digging of a huge foundation pit and the construction of workshops with equipment and an appropriate infrastructure.
      If possible, a link to the source.
  14. collapse
    collapse 6 September 2012 12: 57
    +1
    Whose will the Arctic be?

    Answer: OUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. sapulid
      sapulid 7 September 2012 09: 11
      0
      And who are you?

      If the Arctic is for Russia, who will have it? I AM? No. My family? No. Gazprom offshore country (without going personal)? Yes. Another oligarch in power? Yes.

      The question is: "Why should I or someone who will not receive ANY preferences from the Arctic spend OWN taxes on the development of the Arctic?"

      You know, I'm tired of carrying chestnuts for another "refugee" in London. How much did Birch and Abrashka give to lawyers in London for bickering about protection? Where do the taxes of enterprises developing resources go? Google the main ones and you'll have less excitement.

      Before you start spending money, you need to decide who will have what with it. The joke with the "redhead" vouchers will no longer work. We saw an example of the ravaging of the country by crooks who took away everything created by the hands of our fathers and grandfathers, leaving them to die of hunger.