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A year before Chernobyl. Disaster in the Chazhma Bay

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Project 675 submarine, photo: Wikimedia Commons


В stories In our country, the disaster at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant occupies a special place. The accident, which became the largest in the history of nuclear energy, attracted the attention of the whole world. To eliminate the consequences of the Chernobyl disaster, colossal forces of people and technology were thrown. Hundreds of thousands of people from all over the USSR became the liquidators of the accident.

Today, films and books are still being made about the events at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in April 1986. At the same time, the Chernobyl disaster attracted all the attention of people for many years. Although even in the USSR there were other tragic accidents and incidents associated with human attempts to use the peaceful atom, including for military purposes.

So, a major radiation accident occurred on August 10, 1985 on a submarine of the Pacific fleet... A year before the events at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and 40 years after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a nuclear reactor exploded on board the Soviet submarine K-431 in Chazhma Bay.

Submarine K-431


The submarine K-431 belonged to the submarines of the 675th project and was a nuclear submarine armed with cruise missiles. The nuclear submarine belonged to a fairly large series of Soviet submarines, which were built from 1960 to 1969. In just nine years, the Soviet industry handed over 29 boats of this project to the fleet.

Specifically, the K-31 submarine (renamed K-431 in 1978) was laid down at the shipyard in Komsomolsk-on-Amur on January 11, 1964. Already on September 8 of the same year, the boat was taken out of the workshops and launched. Factory tests of the nuclear submarine lasted from December 1964 to May 1965. State tests were successfully completed on September 30, 1965, after which the boat became part of the Pacific Fleet. Until the accident, the boat had been in service for almost 20 years.

During the years of active service, the boat managed to make 7 autonomous voyages for combat service, including the waters of the Indian Ocean. In 1974-1975, the procedure for reloading the reactor core was carried out on the submarine without any incidents. Also, during its service at the Pacific Fleet, the boat managed to undergo repairs twice. By 1985, the submarine K-431 managed to cover 181 miles, spending 051 sailing hours on this.


Scheme of the nuclear submarine project 675, image: war-book.ru

On the boats of the 675 project, a power plant was installed, which produced 35 hp. The power of the installation was enough to provide the ship with an underwater displacement of 000 tons with a maximum speed of 5760-22 knots in the submerged position and 23-14 knots - on the surface. The heart of the boat's power plant were two VM-A reactors (15x2 MW).

The VM-A reactors belonged to the first generation of reactors designed for installation on Soviet submarines of projects 627 (A), 658, 659, 675. The VM reactors created at NII-8 in Kurchatov were a series of pressurized water nuclear reactors using thermal neutrons. Uranium dioxide, highly enriched in the 235th isotope, was used as fuel for the reactors of this series.

Radioactive accident in Chazhma Bay


On the day of the accident, August 10, 1985, the submarine was at pier No. 2 of the Navy shipyard in Chazhma Bay, Strelok Bay in the Sea of ​​Japan. The defense enterprise of the Pacific Fleet was located near the Danube village (then called Shkotovo-22). The shipyard No. 30 located in the village was engaged in reloading the cores of nuclear reactors, as well as repairing Pacific Fleet ships.

The procedure for replacing the cores of the two VM-A reactors installed on the boat was planned. The specialists of the shipyard had to replace the spent nuclear fuel with fresh rods of fuel elements. The starboard reactor was reloaded without incident. But after the reboot of the left side reactor, it turned out that the reactor cover did not withstand the tightness tests. On the night of August 10, experts discovered a leak here.

By that time, all 180 rods had already been replaced, but the cover from the left side of the reactor had to be removed and reinstalled correctly to ensure tightness. As it was possible to establish, between the reactor lid and the gasket, a cinder of a welding electrode accidentally fell, which blocked the hermetic closure of the lid.

The submariners and the personnel of the coastal technical base, in violation of the instructions, did not draw up any acts and did not notify their higher authorities about the identified emergency situation and the results of hydraulic tests. The sailors also did not resort to the help of the Technical Directorate of the Fleet, whose representatives could monitor the situation and monitor compliance with the necessary protocols.

Obviously, the sailors and the staff of the enterprise did not want unnecessary problems and proceedings, so they decided to cope on their own. On Saturday, August 10, a floating workshop with a crane began lifting the reactor lid. The ensuing accident was a series of events, each of which was not critical, but in the aggregate led to a disaster. If the work was carried out on the basis of the established requirements and in compliance with all technologies, the explosion would have been avoided.

A year before Chernobyl. Disaster in the Chazhma Bay
Sectional view of the VM-A reactor, image: biblioatom.ru

As the commission later established, the work on the boat on August 10 was carried out in violation of nuclear safety requirements and existing technologies. For example, to lift the reactor lid, conventional slings were used instead of shock absorbing standard hard stops. In order not to waste time, the sailors and the personnel of the coastal technical base decided not to fasten the compensating grid with slings. To do this, they would have to additionally cut off the interfering knit, located in the reactor compartment of the boat, with gas cutters.

Realizing that lifting the reactor lid would also result in the lifting of the compensating grid, which could trigger the process of an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, the officers in charge of the work calculated the maximum height to which it would be possible to lift the lid without any consequences.

The lifting of the reactor lid by the bow crane of the floating workshop PM-133 began closer to lunchtime on August 10. At that moment, a torpedo boat entered the bay, which ignored the warning signs at the entrance, limiting the speed of movement. The boat sailed along the bay at a speed of 12 knots, raising a wave. The wave lifted by the torpedo boat reached the shores and quay walls, rocking the floating workshop, which was not stabilized in any way. The reactor lid was not secured with rigid shock-absorbing stops.

As a result of the pumping, the crane lifted the reactor lid above the target level. At the same time, the cover pulled the compensating grille, from which it was not disconnected, and the absorbers. The reactor went into startup mode, a nuclear reaction began, which led to a powerful thermal explosion. The disaster, which claimed the lives of at least 10 submariners, occurred at 12:05 pm local time.

Elimination of the consequences and victims of the accident


In a matter of seconds, a huge amount of energy was released. A powerful explosion completely destroyed and burned the reloading house, which was installed on the hull of the boat above the reactor. In the outbreak of the explosion, the officers who were engaged in the refueling of the reactor were almost completely burned out. The whole shift in the amount of 10 (according to other sources, 11 people). Only insignificant body fragments remained from them, which were then collected in the bay and in the adjacent territory.

The explosion lifted the multi-ton reactor lid into the air for about 1,5 kilometers, after which it fell onto the boat again and damaged the ship's skin below the waterline. Water from the water area of ​​the bay began to flow into the reactor compartment. The crane, which lifted the reactor lid, was torn off from the PM-133 floating workshop, lifted into the air and thrown into the water area of ​​the bay.


In a matter of minutes, everything that was thrown into the air from the exploded reactor turned out to be on the K-431 boat, floating workshop, pier, in the water area of ​​the bay, on local hills and a factory. It also covered the neighboring K-42 nuclear torpedo submarine of Project 627A "Kit" with radioactive emissions. The boat was subsequently decommissioned.

According to the found gold wedding ring of one of the submariners who died at the time of the explosion, it was possible to establish that in the epicenter of the explosion the level of radioactive radiation reached 90 thousand roentgens per hour, which is about three times higher than in a year it will be in Chernobyl. In the rest of the territory, the level of gamma radiation was tens and hundreds of times higher than the permissible sanitary standards.

To extinguish the fire that began after the explosion, the crews of neighboring submarines, as well as workers of the shipyard itself, were involved. These people did not have any special protective clothing and equipment, as well as special equipment for working in such conditions. Despite the complexity of the situation, the team of liquidators was able to cope with the raging fire in 2,5 hours.

Almost instantly, the information blockade mode was activated at the scene of the accident. In a nearby village, communication with the outside world was cut off, access control was increased at the shipyard, and the territory of the plant itself was cordoned off. At the same time, there was no explanatory work with the population, which was the reason that many people received a serious dose of radiation. It is noteworthy that even then the explosion of a nuclear reactor on a submarine that took place in the bay was called "cotton" in official documents.

In total, according to 1990 estimates, as a result of the accident, 290 people were recognized as victims, 10 died immediately at the time of the explosion, another 10 people were diagnosed with acute radiation sickness, and 39 people had a radiation reaction - reversible changes in the body. Already in the mid-1990s, the number of people officially recognized by the government as victims of the accident in the Chazhma Bay increased to 950 people.

For obvious reasons, this tragedy remained little known for many years, and the disaster at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant eclipsed it many times. The "top secret" stamp from the events that took place on the nuclear submarine K-431 on August 10, 1985 in the Chazhma Bay was removed only in the 1990s.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 July 2021 04: 50
    +14
    Was there really no protection against human error on such reactors?
    You read the description of the disaster and you understand that the human factor in the maintenance of the reactor must be taken into account in the strictest way ... no action should be taken until 100% safety of the workplace is ensured ... which was not done in this disaster.
    1. Coward
      Coward 12 July 2021 05: 48
      +11
      You cannot foresee all cases. Who knew that the torpedo commander would ignore the prohibition signs.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 12 July 2021 07: 23
        +24
        Quote: Coward
        You cannot foresee all cases.
        A very weak excuse for every conceivable violation of the instruction.

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        do not take any action until the workplace is 100% safe ...
        In the instructions it is all written that way, but when it comes to reality, it begins "the seamen and the staff of the enterprise did not want unnecessary problems and proceedings, so they decided to cope on their own.".
        1. sidoroff
          sidoroff 12 July 2021 08: 51
          +21
          It is indicative that the main claims to the torpedo team are. but the fact that all the instructions for carrying out the work were violated, and by all those involved from top to bottom - "You can't foresee all cases. Who knew ...". it's not even "Maybe".
        2. Coward
          Coward 12 July 2021 09: 08
          +2
          Where did you see the excuse? I wrote that the designer is not clairvoyant and could not have foreseen such a case when calculating "for a fool".
          1. sidoroff
            sidoroff 12 July 2021 10: 02
            +11
            "For example, to lift the reactor lid, ordinary slings were used instead of shock absorbing standard hard stops. To save time, the sailors and the personnel of the onshore technical base decided not to fasten the compensating grid with slings."
            if everything was done - do not care torpedoes.
            1. Coward
              Coward 12 July 2021 10: 21
              +5
              And that too. In general, as I was told by a person who worked at the Zvezda at that time, the reactor should be reloaded only on the slipway deck.
              1. Cananecat
                Cananecat 12 July 2021 11: 30
                +16
                Quote: Coward
                the reactor should be reloaded only on the slipway deck.

                PTB, like the Charters, is written in blood ... unfortunately
                1. not main
                  not main 12 July 2021 23: 26
                  +8
                  Quote: Canecat
                  PTB, like the Charters, is written in blood ... unfortunately

                  Quite right! But in the army, the charter is the charter, but in civilian life ... What is PTB for? and a safety and health engineer is generally a bum! I know not by hearsay ... I worked as an engineer for safety and labor protection. Interesting post! You can "lie" on it and be "good" to everyone, or you can work, but then you put a spoke in the wheels of everyone and, accordingly, just an enemy for production! PS It was a long time ago, but when I quit the Armed Forces, my father (a purely civilian) asked a year later: "Well, where is better?" Immediate response: IN THE ARMY!
                  1. Motorist
                    Motorist 13 July 2021 22: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: non-primary
                    worked as a health and safety engineer

                    Safety safety should be in the head of the work manager: if the arrow is, then do not stand under it, if the sling is intact and marked, if the eye is twisted all the way, etc. And if the risk is only for your personal fifth point!
                    1. not main
                      not main 13 July 2021 23: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: Motorist
                      Quote: non-primary
                      worked as a health and safety engineer

                      Safety safety should be in the head of the work manager: if the arrow is, then do not stand under it, if the sling is intact and marked, if the eye is twisted all the way, etc. And if the risk is only for your personal fifth point!

                      I do not understand this claim to me? In my opinion, I explained everything. And if the work manager did not give a damn about safety, sorry, but a safety and health engineer cannot be at all facilities! Something like this. On fingers. PSy when EVERY manager realizes that there is nothing more expensive than human life, then you can fire the safety and health engineer!
                      1. Motorist
                        Motorist 13 July 2021 23: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: non-primary
                        I do not understand this claim to me?

                        No, you just did not understand.

                        Quote: non-primary
                        when EVERY manager realizes that there is nothing more expensive than human life, then it is possible to fire the health and safety engineer!

                        I'm just about the same.
        3. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 12 July 2021 20: 29
          -3
          Quote: military_cat
          Quote: Coward
          You cannot foresee all cases.
          A very weak excuse for every conceivable violation of the instruction.

          Quote: Lech from Android.
          do not take any action until the workplace is 100% safe ...
          In the instructions it is all written that way, but when it comes to reality, it begins "the seamen and the staff of the enterprise did not want unnecessary problems and proceedings, so they decided to cope on their own.".

          And what, an occupational safety engineer is not provided for in such operations? Perhaps there was, is and will be ...
        4. Edvid
          Edvid 23 July 2021 03: 36
          0
          In China, March 15, 1978 after a nuclear experimental explosion in the atmosphere, a radioactive cloud was carried out to the Primorsky Territory. At night, a small wet snow layer of about five cm fell out. To the surprise of the residents, it was orange in color. The colored snow melted during the day. The answer to the questions of citizens. on television, the announcer announced an official message that colored snow does not pose a danger to residents, it is the removal of dust from the Gobi Desert. They were satisfied with this, although knowledgeable people knew that at this time of the year the Gobi was still covered with meter-long snow ... I then went on the scientific ship "PRILIV" and our work, among other things, consisted of round-the-clock analysis of the atmosphere wherever we were ... At this time "PRILIV" was in Vladivostok at the pier ("sands" - in the Churkin area). The orange snow was radioactive from a dirty explosion in China. The crew members, who became aware that the precipitation was radioactive, were strictly warned about the non-disclosure of this information ... In the USSR, everything was kept secret, even to the detriment of people.
      2. NIKN
        NIKN 12 July 2021 07: 43
        +21
        Quote: Coward
        Who knew that the torpedo commander would ignore the prohibition signs.

        Not for nothing for Russian drivers, the double solid should be at least 1,5 meters .. request
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 12 July 2021 11: 50
      +8
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Was there really no protection against human error on such reactors?
      You read the description of the disaster and you understand that the human factor in the maintenance of the reactor must be taken into account in the strictest way ... no action should be taken until 100% safety of the workplace is ensured ... which was not done in this disaster.

      The Charters and RBRs were written in the blood of our predecessors. But periodically there is a person who ignores the norm. Once I saw a soldier with his arms torn off (up to the elbows) and a lacerated wound - the chest and abdomen, who switched the IM-100 into a circuit with an equipped electric detonator (that is, did not act according to the rules). Died on the way to the hospital ..
      1. your1970
        your1970 13 July 2021 11: 38
        0
        He will say this - the case of the death of soldiers from the locking rings of trucks were one of the most common causes of death in the SA of the USSR
    3. Alexander Trebuntsev
      Alexander Trebuntsev 12 July 2021 20: 06
      +7
      What protection if bosses are splashing urine out of impatience? A very detailed article about this case was on the website warspot.ru/. Eyewitnesses of those events also spoke out there. As far as I remember, the violations were continuous. As in Chernobyl. And it seems that this is a common story for us, only it is usually somehow bypassed, and when it is not bypassed, everything is classified, so that later something like this will happen again ..
    4. 210ox
      210ox 12 July 2021 21: 41
      +1
      Thirty years ago, he worked at a power plant in the heat automation and measurement department. Thermal, non-nuclear power plant. So there were control units on the boards - they opened and closed various valves. By regulating the supply of steam, fuel, air, etc. So there are two buttons - more and less. To press them, you had to make an effort, the thumb was bent. Here's an example of some kind of foolproofing
    5. ABC-schütze
      ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 12: 10
      +7
      What "human error" are you talking about? ..

      A CRIME was committed, not a "mistake". Operators and maintenance personnel, CONSCIOUSLY VIOLATED, literally EVERYTHING that "can" be violated.

      In everything described, a conditional "error" (negligence) can only be called a weak control over the conduct of welding, upon acceptance of the reactor, which led to a loss of tightness. But EXACTLY THE EXISTING SYSTEM OF TECHNICAL CONTROL (events + EQUIPMENT) made it possible to reveal this negligence of the personnel during acceptance. Moreover, open IN TIME ...

      AND ALL THIS was INTENTIONALLY IGNORED. What 100 "guarantees of exclusion" can we talk about if the PERSONNEL, whose OFFICE DUTY IS TO ENSURE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE guarantees, INTENTIONALLY Ignore their responsibilities? ..
    6. Dimon-chik-79
      Dimon-chik-79 14 July 2021 10: 30
      0
      Immediately, it is written in black and white, they violated EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING they could! There is only one reason here, the weakening of control and discipline at all levels! And in this regard, it can be argued that the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was a natural consequence of the general sloppiness in the country! It seems to me that this was a consequence of the political situation in the country, when it was in a fever with the mass death of the Kremlin elders. The economy was left without an owner and chaos began! And for this special thanks to Leonid Ilyich, who did not ensure the transfer of power to a worthy successor.
  2. Toucan
    Toucan 12 July 2021 05: 00
    +16
    One of the tragic incidents in the domestic nuclear industry. The author did not say anything about the conscripts who liquidated the consequences of the accident for several months. I knew a guy who was demobilized for health from the army at the end of 1985, after which the unit was thrown to clean up the area with contaminated radiation. In the summer of 1986, this guy passed away.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 July 2021 05: 54
      +9
      Quote: Tucan
      I knew a guy who was demobilized for health from the army at the end of 1985, after which the unit was thrown to clean up the area with contaminated radiation. In the summer of 1986, this guy passed away.

      I, too, was familiar with a brow who suffered in the army from radiation ... we were friends a little ... I don’t remember the details ...: and he didn’t tell a lot, and I was not very interested ... because. there was some distrust of what he was saying ... He said that he was receiving a pension for that "radiation incident" ... (though, as I understood, rather modest ...). And then he "suddenly" died ... (and we were very young then!)
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 12 July 2021 09: 50
        +5
        I also knew two people who had been under the explosion in the Totsk camps.
        They both "used" daily.
        Once I talked to one, he said bluntly: if I quit drinking, I won't last long.
        One really abandoned in the time of Gorbach, a little over a year later he died.
        The second died much later, but did not quit.
        Probably no wonder they say that vodka saves from radiation, and in Chernobyl soldiers were given daily.
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 12 July 2021 13: 09
          +1
          "the soldiers were given daily" alcohol stimulates the production of: red blood cells.
          Submarines rely on red wine. I was told that rogues replace high-quality cinema with all sorts of: "ink".
          Perhaps you remember the anecdote: there is 35 *% ink in the blood, no blood was found in the ink "
        2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 12 July 2021 19: 14
          0
          My friend, a Chernobyl survivor, says - never before or after I drank so much good red wine with caviar. Alive, smoking room ...
        3. Maxim Shalak
          Maxim Shalak 18 July 2021 18: 09
          0
          I heard it too. But I did not see those who escaped the radiation with vodka. If anything, I have been working for the third decade in the radiation safety service at one of the Rosatom enterprises. I saw a lot. I don't believe in vodka miracles.
  3. Coward
    Coward 12 July 2021 05: 06
    +15
    I don't know how about the little-known and classified, but there was information about her in Vladivostok. I then studied at secondary school No. 64. We, who were not in the pioneer camps, were urgently gathered home and the teachers in each class held explanatory conversations with the students about the accident on a nuclear submarine with the release of radiation. It was forbidden to swim in the bays of the Ussuri Bay. I remember very well the information board on the Ermine beach that swimming is prohibited due to the radiation accident. Camp "Ocean" was closed, the children were taken out immediately.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 July 2021 05: 29
      +6
      Vladik was a closed city. Nothing went beyond it. I remember my father found out about it so freaking out in the nineties. And this is in Khabarovsk. And he simply did not have a higher tolerance.
      1. Coward
        Coward 12 July 2021 05: 42
        +2
        The city is closed, but as the saying goes, “what two know, the pig knows,” and here there are eight hundred thousand inhabitants. And besides Vladik, there are other not closed cities, the same Nakhodka.
        Although in this case it is possible to clearly track the influence of the media on the dissemination of information, either at the level of rumors it did not go beyond Primorye, or central newspapers and television, as in the case of Chernobyl.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 12 July 2021 11: 58
          +3
          Without any Internet, rumors ran like a fly, do not forget, the enemy voices immediately notified ... then we canceled the trip to Shamara
        2. Stepan S
          Stepan S 14 July 2021 00: 05
          0
          And besides Vladik there are other not closed cities, the same Nakhodka.

          The find was also a closed city. At that time he lived in Nakhodka. In Strelok Bay, near Chazhma, a pier for aircraft carriers was being built. Left shortly before the accident. I learned about the accident many years later. Although later he often visited the Danube, at the shipyard.
          1. andrey-ivanov
            andrey-ivanov 14 July 2021 12: 25
            0
            The find was NOT a closed city. The regime of the border zone was in effect, if I am not mistaken.
            When traveling around the region of southern Primorye, border guards could enter any bus and check documents, questions could arise for nonresidents. Although relatives from Buryatia in the late 80s came freely, they did not require any permits or passes. Big Stone, Texas, maybe Vladivostok, yes. Find - no.
      2. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 12 July 2021 09: 54
        +5
        Well, to tell the truth that Nakhodka was a closed city (I myself am from there). Shkotovo-17, Big Stone too, and was discovered relatively recently. I don't remember about Vladivostok. But it didn’t seem to have been so-called. closed. So that one of the relatives could come to us in Nakhodka, it was necessary to issue a special pass (or something like that) through the KGB. How do I know? ) Well, first of all, as already mentioned, I myself am from there. Secondly, my mum worked in the same structure) and was directly involved in such matters. And yes, after the accident, everything was classified, but rumors still reached.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 July 2021 10: 05
          +2
          Was. Almost 40 years old. In the nineties they only removed it.
        2. Coward
          Coward 12 July 2021 10: 24
          +1
          Vladik was closed. And about Nakhodka, I always thought that it was an open port, which was allowed to enter ships under a foreign flag.
          Regarding the passes, do not you confuse? I saw a statement from my mother and it was written to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Primorsky Territory.
          If everything is classified, then how do you explain the shields on the beaches of the Ussuri Bay about the ban on swimming due to radiation pollution?
          1. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 12 July 2021 11: 22
            0
            no, I don’t confuse))) Maman was definitely engaged in passes. But I don’t remember from my office or through the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Apparently just if everything accelerated directly between the departments)) hi But the city was closed! And foreign ships ... why not? They just didn't open the border, that's all. I remember in 1995 we were in Maizuru, and a dry cargo ship from North Korea was standing nearby. Well, the crew did not go ashore. Local dockers came to replace them, they smashed the ladder, they got up, the ladder was unloaded)
        3. Popandos
          Popandos 12 July 2021 16: 19
          +2
          B. The stone was so closed that my passport indicated the place of birth of the village. Bolshekamensk, Primorsky Territory.
          Father and mother worked at "Zvezda", in the 80th they moved to the CCM, they knew about this accident in the family, so something like that.
      3. Kisa
        Kisa 13 July 2021 13: 40
        +1
        ugums ... I remember exactly in 89m for bison navaga from the ice, we caught in Chazhma - a lot of people, a thousand people there, the depth is under 30m. the only obstacle to bypass the checkpoint. at the level of rumors, everything was. the more cautious did not fish there. Strelok Bay itself is a very filthy place, neither civilian ships nor greenpeaces are allowed to go there. and the lawlessness in Pavlovsk was noble with this heavy water. they drowned these barrels right there instead of burial grounds until the Japanese began to fade
  4. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 July 2021 05: 38
    +11
    (((The explosion lifted into the air a multi-ton reactor lid approximately 1,5 kilometers, after which she fell back on the boat and damaged the hull of the ship below the waterline. ))) ??
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 12 July 2021 06: 57
      +3
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      ??

      And nothing surprising. 70MW in armored volume with one open end. Almost a mortar.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 12 July 2021 07: 05
        +8
        Quote: NDR-791
        And nothing surprising. 70MW in armored volume with one open end. Almost a mortar.

        I'm talking about something else ... If the lid is thrown to a height 1,5 km , then how she with sniper accuracy hit right "on target" ... into the submarine !?
        1. SERGE ANT
          SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 07: 23
          +17
          This is what Yuri Tkachev, the former flagship chemist of the Pacific Fleet's rescue ship brigade, says about the fate of the cap that excited you so much
          The multi-ton reactor lid flew up to a great height and fell off the coast of the bay, plunging its edge into the seabed, not far from the boat. So she stuck there while we worked on the boat.
        2. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 12 July 2021 07: 25
          +3
          The same was noted by this moment. But maybe, really, a series of facts? Why invent some nuances when the disaster is already terrible ...
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 12 July 2021 09: 47
            +3
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Why invent some nuances when the disaster is already terrible ...

            There is a saying ...: "if you have lied in small things, you can lie in more things!" That is, if the author makes one "inaccuracy", then where is the confidence that he did not admit other, more significant "inaccuracies"?
        3. Captain45
          Captain45 12 July 2021 11: 01
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          (((The explosion lifted the multi-ton reactor lid about 1,5 kilometers into the air, after which it fell onto the boat again and damaged the ship's skin below the waterline.))) ???

          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          I'm talking about something else ... If the cover was thrown to a height of 1,5 km, then how did it hit the target with sniper accuracy ... into the submarine !?

          So it hit me in the eyes 1,5 kilometer... Most likely a typo of 1,5 meters or 15 meters? And then just some kind of sniper reactor, a bomber just ...
        4. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 12 July 2021 20: 32
          -1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          how she hit the target with sniper accuracy ... into the submarine !?

          Sometimes shells fall into one funnel. Probability theory
          1. Serg koma
            Serg koma 14 July 2021 14: 12
            0

            The cistern flew 300-400 meters away. "Wall" thickness 12-14mm.


            Violation of TB at a gas station in Novosibirsk 14.06.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX am
        5. ABC-schütze
          ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 12: 21
          0
          Vertical start. Nothing unusual. After all, if you read carefully, the cover "started", practically, from vertical "guides", not "free" space ... And it was also unrealistic to "demolish" it by the wind when it reached such a height, with such a mass. ..
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 13 July 2021 12: 43
            0
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            Vertical start. Nothing unusual

            Does "vertical start" in this case explain everything? I don't think so ... And besides the "wind", a number of other factors are involved in this situation! And okay, when the lid "takes off" by 20-30 m ... and another, when the lid is "sent" for 1,5 km ... By the way, in the end, it turned out that the notorious lid in the submarine, nevertheless, is not hit!
          2. Lynnot
            Lynnot 13 July 2021 15: 42
            0
            Considering that the cover was hanging on slings under the boom of the crane, then, naturally, during the "takeoff" hit it, threw the crane and flew to the side.
        6. Motorist
          Motorist 13 July 2021 22: 59
          0
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          If the cover was thrown to a height of 1,5 km, then how did it hit the target with sniper accuracy ... into the submarine !?

          Didn't the stub of the electrode left under the reactor lid confuse you? I will more believe in the remnants of the old gasket (and even then - with difficulty), but - an electrode ?!
        7. Archon
          Archon 14 July 2021 18: 03
          0
          It happens. Thousands of videos of an object hitting the camera or in the face of a person kicking, throwing, throwing this object are on the Internet. Or how the gas in the sewers is set on fire and the hatch flies up and falls into place.
    2. Undecim
      Undecim 12 July 2021 09: 04
      +14
      The explosion lifted the multi-ton reactor lid into the air for about 1,5 kilometers, after which it fell onto the boat again and damaged the ship's skin below the waterline.

      Obviously, some unknown journalist threw the lid to such a height, with the light hand of which this height and walks on the net.
      “Approximately the same height (about 20-30 m) was thrown out the reactor lid with attached remnants of the destroyed core with a total weight of about 6-7 tons, which then fell back into the reactor compartment, breaking through the strong hull of the nuclear submarine. The boat began to fill with water , which required, after extinguishing a fire in extremely difficult radiation conditions, to organize its retention by a floating crane on the surface of the water and move it to shallow water. "
      This is from the article NUCLEAR ACCIDENT ON A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE IN CHAZHMA BAY (BULLETIN OF THE RUSSIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, 2018, vol. 88, no. 7, pp. 599-618).

      K-431 after the explosion.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 12 July 2021 10: 48
        +4
        Quote: Undecim
        Obviously, some unknown journalist threw the lid to such a height, with the light hand of which this height and walks on the net.

        20-30 m? With this I, perhaps, "willingly" agree! But to throw a "multi-ton" cover to a height of as much as 1,5 km ...? It's not just about doubts about "sniper accuracy", "return" of the cover; but also in "something"! To throw a "multi-ton" cover to such a height, the explosion must be "almost nuclear"! In any case, a thermal explosion of such power is capable of blowing the submarine's hull into "chips" (!) (Ie, into fragments ...) If the author, it turns out, simply "snatched" a fragment from some publication without checking it; then why should I not doubt that other "fragments" may turn out to be unverified, that is, inaccurate?
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 12 July 2021 20: 35
          -1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          To throw a "multi-ton" cover to such a height, the explosion must be "almost nuclear

          In Chernobyl, too, the lid was thrown. And there it weighed more. But in Chernobyl, the explosion was in a closed volume and the power was higher, but here the lid was not fixed
          1. Lynnot
            Lynnot 13 July 2021 15: 44
            0
            In Chernobyl, a reactor of a different system and, accordingly, a design.
        2. ABC-schütze
          ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 12: 35
          0
          I have a case not from the "article" ...

          In our CWP lesson, one fine day, the sound of an "awesome explosion" sounded outside the window. In our auditorium, frames and glass only "trembled". In the next one, - the glasses flew out ...

          Classes were not interrupted. But the "messenger" was sent to the duty officer.

          It turned out that, in broad daylight, the steam boiler "exploded". Buried in the ground. And its "cover", having flown over the roof of a 4-storey building, "landed" from the side of the yard, on the roof of the smoking room. It struck, of course, and smashed a lot inside the smoking-room. Fortunately, there was no one in it during classes ...

          The power of a steam boiler is less than that of a nuclear reactor, and so is the mass of the lid. And much ... But the lid was "thrown" at 12 meters, at least ...

          The article clearly shows that the nuclear reaction has already begun. The intensity of heat release, presumably, in general, is not lower than in an explosion in the volume of "ordinary guarantors". So, I do not exclude 1.5 km, with a power of 70 Mt ...
          1. ABC-schütze
            ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 12: 39
            0
            "Believe not believe" is a personal matter for everyone ...

            But the point is not in the technical details of the "flight of the lid" and not in the description of the destruction. The bottom line is, it was INTENTIONALLY committed, an OFFICIAL CRIME. And the "nuclear industry" has nothing to do with it ... The reliability of the reactor and the design of the submarine has been proven for TWO TEN years of its NON-EMERGENCY operation ...
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 13 July 2021 13: 01
              0
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              So, even 1.5 km, with a power of 70 Mt, I do not exclude ...

              Alas ... I still "risk" excluding! If only because .... and who and how measured these 1,5 km?
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              But the point is not in the technical details of the "flight of the cover

              I will not argue ... but if the Author "wrote" an article, "posting" unverified information pulled from Internet publications; why shouldn't I assume that this information may be distorted (not entirely reliable)? And here the question arises: is the essence of the "service crime" so reliably stated? Maybe real events are somehow different from those presented in this article?
              1. ABC-schütze
                ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 13: 14
                0
                "...: Is the essence of the" service crime "so reliably stated? Maybe real events still somehow differ from those presented in this article?"
                ************************************************** ********************
                The initial ESSENCE of a service crime, in this case, in INTENTIONAL CONSIDERATION by the operator and personnel, of the FACT OF A TECHNOLOGICAL FAILURE in the course of welding.

                In short, they "did not report", neither "in form", nor "on time" ...

                And "everything else" is already a "subsequent chain" ...

                I think that "if" it turned out that "in fact" was reported. Then after removing the bar, we would know about it, in the same detail as about the "technical details" ...
          2. ABC-schütze
            ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 12: 45
            0
            Sorry, with a power of 70 MW ...
    3. Cananecat
      Cananecat 12 July 2021 11: 36
      +2
      Most likely, the recoil of the explosion hit the boat against something that was below the water line or corny the hull could not stand it. But they did not talk about this and investigate, in order to avoid unnecessary questions to the manufacturers of the boat.
    4. Split
      Split 12 July 2021 12: 06
      +1
      Well, yes, they were measured there, and at what height it will fly up and where it will fall drinks
  5. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 06: 57
    +19
    Captain 3rd rank in reserve Yuri Tkachev, former flagship chemist of the Pacific Fleet's rescue ship brigade
    Now many people write about that old tragedy, even those who have nothing to do with it, having heard enough "details" from those who were not at the scene of the accident, add their own fabrications. God is their judge.
    I, at that time, the flagship chemist of the 34th brigade of rescue ships, was directly involved in the elimination of the consequences of the explosion of a nuclear reactor from August 12 to August 26, 1985. It was "my" accident, as a chemist. At the very peak of the rescue work, on August 13, in a blue “hebashka” with the “RB” brand, in rubber shoe covers and a respirator on his face, in the zone of radioactive contamination, he “celebrated” his 33rd birthday. Not everyone has met the "age of Jesus Christ" in such an environment!
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 06: 58
      +19
      In short, the history of a nuclear accident is as follows.
      The nuclear-powered ship stood in a shipyard in the Chazhma Bay, near Vladivostok. Preparing for military service. One of the main tasks of the pre-cruise preparation was the replacement of the spent core in the nuclear reactor of the submarine. The work was successfully completed on Friday, August 9, but at the final stage, during hydraulic tests, the reactor compartment lid began to let the coolant pass through.
      The work of replacing the core was done by highly qualified specialists, not for the first time. It was decided that an electrode for welding (according to other sources - a bolt) got under the cover of the reactor compartment. It was decided to detach and lift the cover to remove a foreign object the next day, Saturday, August 10th. They did not report to the command of the fleet about the work on the day off.
      When the lid was disconnected from the hull of the boat and began to lift the lid with the help of a crane from the floating workshop standing next to the boat (slowly, trying to avoid skewing so as not to hook the compensating grid - otherwise a chain uncontrolled nuclear reaction and explosion would start!) torpedoes swept by. The rising wave rocked the floating workshop with a crane, the cover was skewed and the compensating grid was pulled out to a supercritical level. There was a chain reaction and a reactor explosion.
      The multi-ton reactor lid flew up to a great height and fell off the coast of the bay, plunging its edge into the seabed, not far from the boat. So she stuck there while we worked on the boat.
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 06: 58
        +19
        A powerful explosion scattered ten officers - specialists of the reloading team over the water area and the coastline. They died instantly. Three to five days later, their bodies, dressed in chemical kits, began to surface.
        I saw how they were hooked and taken to the shore on a towing rope. The radioactive background from the dead was such that it was unsafe to get close to them.
        The explosion caused a fire in the reactor and adjacent compartments. Our fire-fighting boat PZhK-50 was on duty at Strelok Bay (Primorskaya Flotilla). He was the first to arrive at the scene of the accident and began to extinguish the fire.
        No one told people that this was not just a fire, that within a radius of fifty meters from a burning boat, the radiation background is incompatible with human life.
        Civilian men put out the fire and were irradiated. At this point, there was a peak in the radiation power due to short-lived isotopes.
        Nowhere and none of the authors who wrote about Chazhma mentioned that later all members of the crew of the fifty-kopeck piece either died or became disabled for the rest of their lives.
        Hiding the truth, the command of the fleet, including the chief of staff of the rear of the fleet, captain 1st rank Guryanov, on the first day of the accident did not even notify the chemical service of the fleet.
        I, the brigade's flagship chemist, were sent there two days after the accident on the Mashuk rescue ship. Before that, they said that there was just a fire and it had already been extinguished.
        Radiation safety services were deployed in Chazhma only three days later. The entire territory of the plant was contaminated with radioactive substances. The people - workers and military men wandered wherever they wanted, until the radiation safety service set up dosimetric control posts.
        1. SERGE ANT
          SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 06: 59
          +20
          My job was to go to an emergency boat every four hours, measure the level of radiation and report the situation on command. This information went to Moscow. Why was it necessary to irradiate people in order to map the residual radiation?
          Moscow, both now and then, in Soviet times, did not spare people. Ask those "eggheads" why were we even sent to the boat in the first three days, when the short-lived isotopes decayed and the decline in activity went exponentially? Yes, you evacuate people, wait two weeks and proceed to decontamination! You see, they wrote dissertations, scientific reports.
          But our scientists did not use their knowledge, obtained in such a barbaric way, when Chernobyl exploded after 8 months.
          Do you know what radiation smells like? Nothing? No, it smells like electricity when wires spark somewhere. Penetrating radiation breaks oxygen molecules into atoms, and the atoms combine to form either ozone or atomic oxygen, the greatest oxidizing agent.
          There was a smell of radiation over the boat, and Yura Astankov and I, at a fast pace, measured the radiation power with instruments every meter. He walked on the left side from the stern to the reactor compartment, and I went to the right. Dosimetric devices were different, then we interpolated the readings, gave averaged numbers.
          1. SERGE ANT
            SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 07: 01
            +20
            I want to mention the benefits of “shila” in some extreme situations. Alcohol, or in the navy - "shilo", is an excellent radioprotector, that is, a substance that removes radioactive isotopes - alpha and beta emitters from the body.
            The alcohol was delivered to us personally by the chief radiologist of the Pacific Fleet, Colonel of the Medical Service, Abaskalov. Every day he handed me an awl canister.
            - Yura, this is for everyone who goes to the boat, - this noble man told me, - be sure to take it inside before work.
            Apart from me and my colleague, the chemist Captain 3rd Rank Astankov, the boat went to the boat under the command of Lieutenant Minakov. I literally forced non-drinkers to drink undiluted alcohol. Those who could not physically use it subsequently fell ill with radiation sickness in varying degrees. What happened next? The remains of the dead were burned, the ashes were placed in a capsule and buried on the territory of the plant, erecting a modest monument.
            According to the former commander of the nuclear submarine Viktor Zhilin, in the early 90s, Major General of the Medical Service Leonid Grishaev, who took an active part in all stages of eliminating the consequences of the explosion, died in full bloom. After him, the colonel of the medical service Yevgeny Abaskalov and the captain of the 2nd rank Vladimir Pustovit left for another world. Many of the former liquidators suffer from oncological diseases, disorders of the central nervous system and still prove in various instances that they belong to special risk units.
            1. SERGE ANT
              SERGE ANT 12 July 2021 07: 02
              +20
              By the way, I received a certificate of a veteran of special risk units by accident. In 1992, I was on a business trip in Vladivostok (by that time I was serving in the brigade for the protection of the water area on Sakhalin) and, having arrived at the chemical service of the fleet, I saw Captain 1st Rank Danilyan, the new chief chemist of the fleet, and other management officers with such a certificate.
              All the command of the Pacific Fleet received them from the hands of the chairman of the committee of special risk units Bentsianov. Only 70 "crusts" were issued, giving modest benefits upon transfer to the reserve.
              I did not see many of them at the accident.
              - Well, now you will have to prove for a long time that you were there, - they told me in the technical department of the Pacific Fleet.
              They were instructed to collect lists for the rest of the liquidators.
              But, in spite of various bureaucratic obstacles, I collected all the papers, extracts from the logbooks of the Mashuk ocean rescue ship, etc. and three years later, in the Sakhalin regional military registration and enlistment office, I was solemnly presented with a well-deserved certificate.
              1. Split
                Split 12 July 2021 14: 18
                +1
                Starley not assigned. He refused himself .... but not during liquidation .... they took 200 cargo ... The result ... 8 wounded and I saved almost everyone, the column came under fire .... 20 years later my ears are ringing. And they didn't give me anything. YES, I'm not offended! soldier New Gadari right now, just remembered with Gagarin
  6. Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 July 2021 07: 32
    -2
    The wave lifted by the torpedo boat reached the shores and quay walls, rocking the floating workshop, which was not stabilized in any way. The reactor lid was not secured with rigid shock-absorbing stops.

    As a result of the pumping, the crane lifted the reactor lid above the target level. At the same time, the cover pulled the compensating grille, from which it was not disconnected, and the absorbers.

    what a BARDAK! People have forgotten that there are waves on the sea ... there are no words

    To extinguish the fire that began after the explosion, the crews of neighboring submarines, as well as workers of the shipyard itself, were involved. No special protective clothing and equipment, as well as special equipment for work in such conditions, these people did not have.

    Taking care of people is "good".
    Almost instantly at the scene of the accident, the mode was activated. information blockade... In a nearby village, communication with the outside world was cut off, access control was increased at the shipyard, and the territory of the plant itself was cordoned off. At the same time, explanatory work with the population not conducted, what caused many people to receive a serious dose of radiation

    What kind of trust can there be in such authorities that are SO about people?

    After all, Chernobyl tried to shut up, took people to the demonstrations on May 1.

    An attitude like non-humans ...
    1. glk63
      glk63 12 July 2021 08: 30
      +4
      Yes ... sorry, you weren't there. You would definitely do everything right ...
    2. Coward
      Coward 12 July 2021 09: 06
      +6
      Nobody hushed up anything. Above, I already wrote how it was. And you only bite into the joy of power.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 12 July 2021 11: 15
        -1
        Quote: Coward
        Nobody hushed up anything. Above, I already wrote how it was.

        lying: on the table of the Pravda newspaper, Izvestia, etc. - with information about the accident and the measures taken and recommendations for the population

        What? Not? When you find it, come.

        And yes - in Kiev, with wild radiation, on May 1, a huge demonstration took place - this is about the attitude of the so-called "power" to people.
        1. Coward
          Coward 12 July 2021 12: 06
          +2
          Of course, you can only believe what you want to believe. But I already wrote that schoolchildren were dragging us out of our houses and the teachers were holding conversations with us. And the shields were on the beaches.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 12 July 2021 13: 31
            -1
            Quote: Coward
            Of course, you can only believe what you want to believe. But I already wrote that schoolchildren were dragging us out of our houses and the teachers were holding conversations with us. And the shields were on the beaches.

            do not care about the shields: WHERE is the information in the press, TV about the NUCLEAR accident with victims and the threat of infection?

            Let me remind you that people are not life and they did not give anyone the right to hide something like that from them
            1. Coward
              Coward 12 July 2021 14: 01
              0
              Well, if the information boards installed in crowded places are not a means of informing the population for you, then there is nothing more to talk to you about.
              1. your1970
                your1970 13 July 2021 11: 47
                +1
                Quote: Coward
                Well, if the information boards installed in crowded places are not a means of informing the population for you, then there is nothing more to talk to you about.

                Well informed and? Was the distribution of anti-radiation drugs? Evacuation?
                Or all levels: "It exploded, but not much. Sit quietly, watch a movie? !!."?
                1. Coward
                  Coward 13 July 2021 13: 56
                  0
                  That's all wrong for you. First, you say that the accident was classified and that people were not thought of. Then, when they tell you that there was no secrecy, you start to play around and give other arguments for the bloodthirstiness of the USSR.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 13 July 2021 15: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: Coward
                    That's all wrong for you. First, you say that the accident was classified and that people were not thought of. Then, when they tell you that there was no secrecy, you start to play around and give other arguments for the bloodthirstiness of the USSR.

                    And what does this have to do with "bloodthirstiness" or not?
                    Question MY stood a little wrong - something was MADE (drugs, evacuation, some kind of help) or everything was limited to information
                    Quote: your1970
                    "It exploded, but not much. Sit quietly, watch a movie? !!."?
                    and conversations with schoolchildren
                    1. Coward
                      Coward 14 July 2021 00: 52
                      -1
                      Apparently I misinterpreted your question. My apologies!
                      As for the drugs, I don’t remember what I don’t remember. Perhaps the mother at the enterprise was given something, but she did not force me to accept. And given that the boys and I went to bathe in the Ermine, which is why I remember the information board, I obviously did not take the drugs.
            2. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 12 July 2021 14: 40
              -2
              do not care about the shields: WHERE is the information in the press, TV about the NUCLEAR accident with victims and the threat of infection?

              Why don't care about the shields if they inform the population in the immediate vicinity of the scene? Or are you worried about grannies thousands of kilometers from the accident? Well, so that they have something to talk about on the bench.
            3. Lynnot
              Lynnot 13 July 2021 16: 11
              0
              Then there will be panic, the consequences of which can be much worse.
          2. motorized rifle
            motorized rifle 12 July 2021 13: 35
            +7
            I don’t know how it was in Kiev, but I know how it was in Pripyat as an eyewitness.
            Then I lived according to Lenin 1a. On the night from Friday to Saturday, my future wife and I walked on the street, we did not hear a flash or the sound of an explosion. On Saturday morning, my friend and I went by train "Yanov-Chernigov" to his parents' dacha, between the rivers Pripyat and the Dnieper (BSSR). Opposite the nuclear power plant there was a stop "Semihody", where people went and went to work at the nuclear power plant. Already on the train there was talk about the accident, but there was no exact information, only rumors and speculation. I saw the ill-fated fourth reactor clearly from the window. Not a lot of light smoke or steam was coming out of the building in which it was located. Any damage, at least on the side facing the railway. , I did not notice. In the evening of the same day, at about 18 pm we returned to Pripyat on the same train. The train did not stop at Semihody. That same evening we gathered at a friend's place to watch "TASS is authorized ...". During the screening, women from the GO rang the doorbell and entered and offered everyone to take anti-radiation drugs. It was then that we had our first suspicion of a nuclear accident. On Sunday morning, an impending evacuation was announced on local radio. The readiness for it was appointed at 12.00. In reality, they took us out of the house at about 16.00. A bus with a civilian driver and an explosives officer was brought to each entrance. Yes, here's another touch, at that time I worked on a rotational basis and on Sunday, the first bus (at six in the morning) was supposed to go to Kiev, and then to the Borispol airport to the rotational plane. So when the passengers gathered at the bus station, they saw the following announcement:
            THE BUS STATION IS CLOSED BECAUSE THE BUSES DO NOT GO
            The shift workers in the administration of the airport were given certificates for presenting to work:
            "In connection with the civil defense exercises, leaving the city of Pripyat is temporarily prohibited."
            Before the evacuation, they officially said that it would not be for long, they say, you will live for several days in sanatoriums and rest homes.
            I flew away from work on Tuesday, "on my own."
        2. ABC-schütze
          ABC-schütze 13 July 2021 13: 39
          +3
          Sorry, about the level of "wild radiation" in Kiev, is it possible in more detail ...

          And don't talk about the "background". Dangerous to life, namely the so-called. "absorbed dose" ...

          Someone from the participants of the demonstration in Kiev, ever assessed it? .. To raise hysterical cries about some "wild danger"? ..

          Specifically, how many people in Kiev actually suffered from the "multiple" excess of the permissible dose in May 1984? ..

          I personally would not hold demonstrations during such a period. But he also did not use the fact of their holding for primitive opportunistic anti-Soviet hysterics ...
    3. zenion
      zenion 12 July 2021 21: 47
      -2
      Do you think other people are in control now? They did not want to continue to be servants of the people and made a revolution, stole everything from themselves and from the people at the same time.
  7. north 2
    north 2 12 July 2021 08: 38
    +5
    The actions of the torpedo boat commander once again confirmed that the Charter of the Navy was written in the blood of sailors and officers. Among other things, the blood of those who have already died a hundred or more years ago, and
    That sad experience added another paragraph to the Navy Charter that it is forbidden to do this and that, this and that ... However, the Charter and instructions were also neglected on the submarine ..
    1. zenion
      zenion 12 July 2021 21: 49
      +1
      On land, there are plenty of signs on the roads around, which recommend and prohibit, and there are more fools every time, more and more. But if in Soviet times transport was called a weapon and it was necessary to go through a lot of commissions in order to have a permit for this weapon, now only money is needed.
  8. spbdweller
    spbdweller 12 July 2021 09: 58
    +6
    And 5-8 years before Chernobyl, there was another accident with a Soviet nuclear submarine. Also nuclear. I was friends with the former officer of this boat for quite a long time. I will not name the name - we broke off relations. He was a navigator on the boat and was on watch when the alarm sounded. To save his life, he climbed under / behind the leaded remote control of something where he was before the arrival of the rescuers. He was treated for radiation sickness. Fortunately, even the male potential was preserved - the remote control helped. I did not show much interest in history, that is, I did not elicit details and details, I just regularly raised a toast "to miraculous salvation," just before the toast "to beautiful ladies," and then he traditionally sang the song "When I am drunk, and I'm always drunk ... and on the assaultаI received my education at the faculty ... ". I do not know the name of the boat, nor the place of the accident, nor even the exact year, but there could not have been many such accidents. Maybe the author of the article will remember-find out-tell?
  9. moreman78
    moreman78 12 July 2021 10: 00
    +7
    Quote: Coward
    You cannot foresee all cases. Who knew that the torpedo commander would ignore the prohibition signs.

    Before that, the SEAFARERS HAVE IGNORED THE INSTRUCTIONS!
    So the article correctly says -
    the accident was a series of events, each of which was not critical, but in the aggregate led to a disaster. If the work was carried out on the basis of the established requirements and in compliance with all technologies, the explosion would have been avoided.
    1. Coward
      Coward 12 July 2021 12: 09
      0
      I don't argue with that. Why do you think I am justifying them? I only condone constructors who design foolproof. Well, they cannot foresee everything. There will always be someone who will try to bypass the protection "in the name of a good purpose."
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 12 July 2021 12: 31
        +3
        At the same time, forgetting that the road is paved with good intentions to hell
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 12 July 2021 20: 46
        0
        Quote: Coward
        Well, they can't foresee everything

        The reactor cannot be made indivisible, but during routine maintenance there must be responsible people who are subordinate not to the base commander, even to the head institute.
        1. zenion
          zenion 12 July 2021 21: 56
          0
          In Russia, all people are experts on any issue. When they don't know how to do it, there will always be a person who will say - look right. It was such that out of the three only one survived, quite by accident. In general, they found an unexploded bomb from the time of the war and decided to disassemble it in order to get explosives. We tried to unscrew it with a screwdriver and pliers. And then one decided, the Bulgarian is at home, I run after her. Accidentally he brought it home from the garage. When I ran with her to the guys, an explosion hit. Garages were scattered, he was knocked down. I woke up in the hospital. There he was told that he could not find any of his friends.
  10. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 12 July 2021 10: 17
    +11
    Quote: Coward
    You cannot foresee all cases. Who knew that the torpedo commander would ignore the prohibition signs.

    As follows from the article, torpedoes were far from the only reason for the emergency. The main reason is flagrant violations of technical requirements for carrying out work of this kind. Unfortunately, until we achieve absolutely iron discipline and bring up German accuracy, pedantry and a culture of handling technology, until then similar accidents will repeat ... A joke is recalled: During the Great French Revolution, an Englishman, a Frenchman and a German were caught. All were sentenced to beheading with a guillotine. The Frenchman is asked whether to lay you face down or up on the cutter? The Frenchman answers: of course down! the guillotine is a humane instrument of execution. they put the Frenchman down, started up the cutter, and he stopped a centimeter from the Frenchman's neck. They say to the Frenchman - a rare case, you cannot be executed a second time, you are given life! They ask the Englishman. He replies, we, the British are a courageous nation, we are not afraid to face death! Put me face down on the cutter! They put it down, started up the cutter, and he again stopped a centimeter from the Englishman's neck. They say to an Englishman - unprecedented! But you can't execute a second time! Life is granted to you! A German is asked: how do you put you, face up or down? The German replies: and I refuse to talk to you at all until you adjust the car!
  11. vladcub
    vladcub 12 July 2021 10: 29
    +2
    Although they blocked the village, the "voices" already knew about it
  12. dgonni
    dgonni 12 July 2021 12: 18
    +2
    Yes, this is a series of accidents, but the main reason (the sailors and the personnel of the enterprise did not want unnecessary problems and proceedings, so they decided to cope on their own)
    The boat was getting ready to go into line!
    If the headquarters of the fleet is notified, then immediately the darkness of the staff specialists will arrive. Which will muck up the crew and the factory writings.
    Plus there will be organizational conclusions, etc.
    Since the operation is routine, they decided to carry it out on a quiet Saturday without advertising.
    Apparently, this method of slinging was used at the enterprise many times!
    The top speed sign was displayed.
    But apparently he was ignored due to the fact that everyone knew that no one spends weekends and overloads of reactors.
    All this partisanism led to sad results.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 12 July 2021 20: 48
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      Quote: dgonni
      The top speed sign was displayed.

      Do you always keep your speed on the road?
      1. your1970
        your1970 14 July 2021 10: 08
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        Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        ! Life is granted to you! A German is asked: how do you put you, face up or down? The German replies: and I refuse to talk to you at all until you adjust the car!

        Quote: Pilat2009
        Quote: dgonni
        The top speed sign was displayed.

        Do you always keep your speed on the road?


        difference in approaches ...
    2. zenion
      zenion 12 July 2021 22: 08
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      dgonni. It's amazing what happened. He served in aviation. If something happened somewhere, then immediately there was a construction and everyone was read out what happened in some part and why. A radio station of unlimited power and communication. Before opening the unit for inspection, although she herself gave out data about her health and well-being, she had to press a button that opened a box with a service recommendation. I opened it and read how you can open a department, what you need to have with you, how to do it. In 1960, it cost about a million rubles. Everywhere, on every pillar, there was an inscription - do not get in, he will kill! Each car had an inscription - I'm not sure, don't overtake! But it was all to the light. Near the entrance to one city there was a tower on which the wrecked cars of that day stood and there were many of them. And the famous - it is easier to prevent a fire than to extinguish!
  13. vladcub
    vladcub 12 July 2021 12: 27
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    Because of one breakdown and unwillingness to unnecessary pieces of paper. 2 nuclear submarines, 11 people died immediately, but how many will suffer?
  14. Ivan Biryukov
    Ivan Biryukov 12 July 2021 15: 50
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    On this day, as an urgent one right now, I was in Shkotovo in the state hospital in (Texas) 17 I was treated so we were sent to the emergency room to help, they took the sailors from the accident, and we unload the snot tears from the car in some hospital pajamas, and what do you think someone told us. yes no one even changed their clothes the mess was so then they were sent someone to St.
  15. Andrey VMF
    Andrey VMF 12 July 2021 18: 48
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    Everything is as usual: they wanted the best, ignoring everything and everyone ... Also in Chernobyl: to complete the experiment at any cost ...
    In 1990, I served as deputy. com-ra AE on IAS and disrupted the 1st sortie of the squadron, tk. refused to violate RTE and NIAS. For which later he was repeatedly persecuted by all the chiefs. As a result, I left the Armed Forces (naval aviation, 100th KIAP), but endured the main thing: for me the highest law was NIAS and RTE with the inscription "APPROVED" in the corner and the signature of the general designer below. When this is neglected in the name of something high there, and Chazhma, Chernobyl, "Nakhimov", "Lermontov", etc. occur.
  16. Azimuth
    Azimuth 12 July 2021 21: 29
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    I don't know how about the little-known and classified, but there was information about her in Vladivostok. I then studied at secondary school No. 64. We, who were not in the pioneer camps, were urgently gathered home and the teachers in each class held explanatory conversations with the students about the accident on a nuclear submarine with the release of radiation. It was forbidden to swim in the bays of the Ussuri Bay. I remember very well the information board on the Ermine beach that swimming is prohibited due to the radiation accident. Camp "Ocean" was closed, the children were taken out immediately.

    Was in the "Ocean" camp in 1993. They were taken out of Belarus. I had a portable dosimeter of 0.14-0,15 mR / h with me. I was also surprised in Minsk the norm is 0.13, Moscow is the same. It was after the locals told about Nakhodka that there was an accident on the boat.
  17. alsoclean
    alsoclean 12 July 2021 21: 35
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    Well, in general, it was not even close to Chernobyl. On K431 the fuel was "fresh", in Chernobyl it was pretty well spent. Therefore, in Chazhma, the infection was very, very small. And the Chernobyl nuclear power plant presented the world with a whole "bouquet" of isotopes.
    By the way, the K42 nuclear submarine standing next to it was also so spoiled that it went to write-off along with the K431.
    By the way - the reactor lid did not fly into space. And fell into the water and not back into the boat.
    There is a good source: Boyko, V.N. Tragedies of the Pacific submarine / V.N. Boyko. - M .: Horizon, 2016 - Read and you will be happy
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 July 2021 22: 10
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    Here it is not clear. If there was an explosion of the indicated force, then how could it be determined that the cinder of the welding electrode got into the joint of the reactor lid? The rest, as he sends the covers for 1.5 km and landing at the same place ... I saw a similar accident. With a flying heavy cover, a meter in diameter. But where there. The aerodynamics of such a cover carried it about 20 meters, although it took off vertically ... And it did not hit the roof of the workshop.
  19. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 13 July 2021 08: 11
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    There is excellent video graphics of these events on the profile channel
    https://youtu.be/3XrWa4D7u8s
  20. napalm
    napalm 13 July 2021 08: 16
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    Enchanting irresponsibility. They did not want unnecessary problems and proceedings. And what is the bottom line.
  21. DenVB
    DenVB 13 July 2021 09: 08
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    The reactor went into startup mode, a nuclear reaction began, which led to a powerful thermal explosion.

    Already from the description it is clear that the explosion was the most nuclear. Fortunately, very weak.
    1. Lynnot
      Lynnot 13 July 2021 15: 29
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      It is thermal.
  22. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 13 July 2021 10: 10
    +1
    1. In March, Gorbachev became the general secretary and already in August, having mounted the reactor on a submarine. Then Chernobil hit, Matias Rust sat down on Red Square, the ship Admiral Nakhimov sank - and so on. The impression that all this did not beat from negligence.
    2. The most severe accident of a nuclear reactor did not lead to apocalyptic consequences, which was later proved by both Chernobil and Fukushima. Severe industrial accident and no more.
  23. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 13 July 2021 10: 13
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    Quote: DenVB
    The reactor went into startup mode, a nuclear reaction began, which led to a powerful thermal explosion.

    Already from the description it is clear that the explosion was the most nuclear. Fortunately, very weak.

    Of course it's nuclear, where is the other energy in the reactor. And of course the weak one. If it is possible to get a full nuclear explosion, it would not be necessary to develop complex implosion devices for bombs.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 13 July 2021 17: 56
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      Of course it's nuclear, where is the other energy in the reactor.

      In Chernobyl, it is believed that the most severe damage is caused by the explosion of an explosive mixture. Although, of course, the explosive mixture was produced by the energy of nuclear fuel. Still, the explosion was not directly caused by the fission energy. But in Chazhma, it turns out that it was the fission energy, without any intermediaries like an explosive mixture, that blew up the reactor.

      If so it would be possible to get a full nuclear explosion without needing to develop complex implosion devices for bombs.

      The explosion was "defective" because only a small fraction of the nuclear fuel had time to react. Probably hundredths or tenths of a gram. But a nuclear explosion does not have to be "full-fledged" in the sense of full use of fissile matter. And it can't be that way.
  24. Lynnot
    Lynnot 13 July 2021 15: 24
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    The explosion lifted the multi-ton reactor lid into the air for about 1,5 kilometers, after which it fell onto the boat again and damaged the ship's skin below the waterline.

    - 1,5 km?
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  26. aries2200
    aries2200 13 July 2021 16: 35
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    The accident, which became the largest in the history of nuclear energy, attracted the attention of the whole world. === It was a sabotage of the US CIA, like the motor ship NAKHIMOV as well as the disaster near UFO
  27. Naval
    Naval 13 July 2021 17: 29
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    I heard this story from a friend in 1985, including about the reactor lid. He served as a hydrograph, I think, "Vice-Admiral Vorontsov", although I could be wrong. After the accident, on alarm, they were sent to the bay to take samples and scout out the radiation situation.
  28. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 14 July 2021 17: 25
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    Quote: aries2200
    The accident, which became the largest in the history of nuclear energy, attracted the attention of the whole world. === It was a sabotage of the US CIA, like the motor ship NAKHIMOV as well as the disaster near UFO

    In the USSR, there were quite enough enemies of the authorities and they could do what the CIA never dreamed of.
    Look how many communists remained in the USSR after 1991.