"The Russians are a little carried away by speculation": in Britain the incident with the destroyer HMS Defender is commented on by the head of the Ministry of Agriculture

Discussion of the incident involving the British destroyer HMS Defender continues in Russia and Britain. The main topic for discussion among military experts and political scientists of various levels was the following: did the Russian side use weapons or not?

Recall that on the eve of the United Kingdom Navy destroyer violated the Russian maritime borders in the Sevastopol region, entering the waters of the Russian Federation for 3 km. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation spread reports that the crew of the British warship did not react in any way to the warnings, after which the Coast Guard ship had to open warning fire. After a while, the Su-24M bomber of the Russian Black Sea Fleet's naval assault regiment used the SVP-24 Hephaestus sight and carried out the bombing of OFAB-250 at the rate of the British destroyer. As a result, the warship, which initially began approaching the shores of the Crimea, changed course and made an exit from Russian waters.

An interesting point: the British media asked for additional comment on the incident from government representatives, and volunteered to comment (as modern youth say - "suddenly" ...) Minister of Environment, Food and Agriculture George Eustice (George Eustice). The head of the British Ministry of Agriculture on Times Radio:

I think the Russians got a little carried away by some speculation about this.

It is strange in itself that the incident with the British warship is being commented on by an official from the Department of Environment and Agriculture. Or in Britain, for some time now, destroyers are equated with agricultural equipment? ..

Meanwhile, the British are calling on their country's military to provide unequivocal evidence that statements about the bombing of the Su-24M and warning firing from the Russian Coast Guard ship "have nothing to do with the passage of the destroyer and were caused by training in Russia."

Comments

[For example]

Did the Russian side use weapons or not?

A video for such cases was invented.

Show how they shot and how they bombed.

And we will be proud of the courage of the leader who gave the order.

And the Agriculture Secretary of England will continue to quietly grow oats.

[Volodin]

Quote: For example

Show how they shot and how they bombed.

We have a video, but, as our democratic partners teach us, we will not show them to you, because they are secret.

[For example]

What you, Alexey, have, does not cause any doubts.

But we also want confirmation that this is not chatter before the elections, but real protection of the borders.

[Alex777]

The captain of the British ship has already admitted to having fired on.
An Air Force correspondent acknowledged combat readiness and firing.
One thing is not clear - that the British are stupid, what was not on them?

Captain of the British destroyer Defender Vincent Owen confirmed that a Russian coast guard vessel opened warning fire during an incident in the Black Sea off the coast of Crimea.

https://vz.ru/news/2021/6/24/1105672.html

[Achilles]

Quote: For example

But we also want confirmation that this is not chatter before the elections, but real protection of the borders.

I personally believe our military, if they say that there was bombing and warning shots, then there was, and there will be evidence when the time is right.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Volodin

We have a video, but, as our democratic partners teach us, we will not show them to you, because they are secret.

[Dikson]

Thank you for posting the BBC plot here .. maybe this will sober up a little hurray-patriotic apofigey ..

[sabakina]

A question from an urya-crack! Why did the "courageous" sailors of the "GREAT BRITAIN" wear white hats? So that, if something happens, then blame everything on the chief mate?

[For example]

Quote: Dikson (Eugene)

Thanks for posting ...

And in your video "thank you BBC" there is no bombing or gunfire.

A lot of chatter.

In general, continuous chatter on both sides.

Quote: Dikson

maybe it will be a little sober ...

Why should this chatter "sober up" you?

So, Eugene, I suggest you limit your ardor by setting a minus to my comment.

[Dikson]

I don't have the habit of putting pros and cons on adequate criticism and remarks .. But in the plot from the Britts, you can still hear the shooting .. but who and where shoots is unclear ..)) And to sober up from incomprehensible enthusiasm from unconfirmed information about the "heroic expulsion" of the offender ...

[Dikson]

Your question resembles a quote from a letter from the Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan .. - "Are you a knight if you can't kill a hedgehog with a naked asshole?" .. Do you know the charter of Her Majesty's Royal Navy? I - no .. It is possible that when the "Battle Alert" team plays on the bridge and on open decks, the crew puts on these masks. there, besides them, there is something else hanging on the neck .. And the masks themselves may have non-combustible properties .. In the end, if fragments from equipment and glazing as a result of enemy firing fly into the heads, there will be less damage .. they put them on so that they don't cling to the ceiling with their horns?

[sabakina]

Quote: Dikson

And why do the tankers put on their helmets, so that they don't cling to the ceiling with their horns?

And sho, is there as little space on a destroyer as in a tank?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Dikson

Your question resembles a quote from a letter from the Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan .. - "Are you a knight if you can't kill a hedgehog with a naked asshole?" .. Do you know the charter of Her Majesty's Royal Navy? I - no .. It is possible that when the "Battle Alert" team plays on the bridge and on open decks, the crew puts on these masks. there, besides them, there is something else hanging on the neck .. And the masks themselves may have non-combustible properties .. In the end, if fragments from equipment and glazing as a result of enemy firing fly into the heads, there will be less damage .. they put them on so that they don't cling to the ceiling with their horns?

This is a piece of protective equipment. The fabric is non-flammable.

[Dikson]

Why are you explaining this to me? This is Mrs. Sabakina, aka Vyacheslav Kostroma, she plays in confusion here .. and in exchange for the pros and cons ..)) And, by the way, why no one writes about British missiles, which the sailors obviously loaded into the installation demonstratively .. And about the fact that in the radio exchange, in response to our "change course or we will open fire" the Englishman replied - "I have a couple of missiles prepared for you" ..? .. - There was not one journalist on Defender, but a whole brigade. different media ..- it is obvious that the British are very offended by the situation ..

[seregatara1969]

It seems to me that this is protection against fire when attacking a ship. They knew what they were doing

[sabakina]

Quote: seregatara1969

It seems to me that this is protection against fire when attacking a ship. They knew what they were doing

Maybe. The video shows that they brought weapons into combat readiness.

[dedusik]

Quote: sabakina

A question from an urya-crack! Why did the "courageous" sailors of the "GREAT BRITAIN" wear white hats? So that, if something happens, then blame everything on the chief mate?

The June 24 video was posted on the BBC website.

According to the journalist, the British ship intentionally invaded the sea space of the Russian Federation and the Russian patrol ship immediately demanded in a harsh manner that the British change course, and also warned them about opening fire.

“If you cross the border, we will shoot! If you don't change course, we'll shoot. How did you understand me? Welcome, ”the Russian border guards warned the Defender ship management.

At the same time, the command of the British destroyer was not stopped by the Russian sides, and they put on special asbestos fireproof suits.

And only after the Russian aviation joined the expulsion of the Defender from the territorial waters of the Russian Federation and the Su-24M bombers began to fly a few meters above the deck of the British destroyer, the latter, realizing the seriousness of the intentions of the Russian border guards, changed its course and left the territorial waters of Russia.

"This contradicts statements by both the British Prime Minister's Office and the Department of Defense, which deny any confrontation," the BBC explained.
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3304449.html

[fruc]

Because then they will come to Russia on a tourist visa to spy. Although it is immediately clear that the British have prepared: journalists, television on the deck, perhaps there were still "trainees" from Ukraine. And when they were in Odessa, they conducted training on boarding a sea vessel. They knew that they would go to the territory. waters of the Russian Federation and were preparing to counter the "bulk". It would be cool if they hooked our coast guard ship in our own territories. waters, together with the crew and dragged to Odessa. Surely the British were herded for a long time and information on it was at the command post of the Sevastopol and Novorossiysk naval bases. In addition to the navy, it was tracked by air defense systems. I bow to the fact that our the forces on duty did not cope with the task, but they showed an enviable "composure" and "restraint".

[Thompson]

Well, nonsense. Following your logic, it was necessary to shoot and bomb them in neutral waters, or how ??? Checker

[fruc]

It is you, dear, write nonsense. I did not write that it should have been bombed in neutral waters. Drink cold kefir from badun.

[seregatara1969]

Badun - what is it?

[fruc]

If you do not understand something, please read this document-Law of the Russian Federation of 01.04.1993/4730/1 N 11.06.2021-XNUMX (as amended on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) "On the State Border of the Russian Federation"
Article 3. Protection and protection of the State Border.

[Rudauto]

Actually, they should have put on white slippers.

[Captain45]

Quote: sabakina

A question from an urya-crack! Why did the "courageous" sailors of the "GREAT BRITAIN" wear white hats? So that, if something happens, then blame everything on the chief mate?

Along the way, so that the riot police are not recognized or that in case of something the brains on the deck are not scattered, if they are, of course

[tralflot1832]

It's funny, a solitary trough, in visibility from the shore. There the calculation of the Bal and the radar station does not need, the operator of the Bal can show the direction with his hand where to shoot.

[sabakina]

Andrey S. agrees. Make an X-ray and show how bad they are. True, as the cat Matroskin said, you will have to run after them for half a day.

[tralflot1832]

The Anglican poslikha was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry to present a tough march. While diplomat Lavrov is working, military diplomat Shoigu is at the ready.

[For example]

Quote: tralflot1832

While diplomat Lavrov is working, military diplomat Shoigu is ready.

In this case, diplomat Lavrov works after Shoigu's work.

[For example]

I wonder who is driving there in the Crimea.
Bykov - FSB.
Aircraft - VKS.

Who makes the decision?

[fruc]

And the decision is made by the Civil Code of the Navy

as they write, “The main headquarters of the Navy is currently deployed in the historic center of St. Petersburg in the Admiralty. The structure of the General Staff of the Navy and its structural subdivisions today meets all the requirements for the system of combat control of the ocean-going naval fleet. A clear organization of the work of the General Staff of the Navy allows you to effectively organize the activities of the Russian Navy at the interspecific and general fleet level, to carry out tasks of any complexity. "

[tralflot1832]

I apologize, but the tandem is not bad.

[For example]

Well, you are not guilty of anything.

It was the English sailors who lured the coast. In the truest sense of the word.

[fruc]

Called ..... so what. We saw anxious faces. This is clearly not enough.

[tralflot1832]

Let's strike with all the capitalist hatred on England. We can humiliate England on the world level. Johnson on the expulsion of the provacateur: I remember the times when relations with Russia were even worse. A clear signal, we must end, this is not an incident from which to start the third world war.

[fruc]

I'll give you another phrase:

"How difficult it is to live in the world when no one is at war with Russia"- These became famous words were pronounced by the Prime Minister of Britain, Lord Palmerston. It happened shortly before the Crimean War of 1853-1856, during which the Anglo-French troops, trying to weaken Russia, captured the Crimea and Sevastopol. By the way, if you look at the numbers of losses, then it becomes obvious: the British, who were the ideologists of that campaign, fought with someone else's hands, while France lost almost 22 thousand people in the battles for the Crimea, Turkey - about 21 thousand, then Britain ... less than 5 thousand troops.

This is what they want now.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The fact that in small-scale Britain it was the Ministry of Agriculture that commented on the incident with the Defender was brazen, despite warnings by radio that climbed into Russian territorial waters, it is NOT surprising: in Brytaniya, all politicians know perfectly well that Russia is always to blame for everything. And the fact that the military department is silent is NOT surprising: they can expose lies (the Russians probably have a video that they DO NOT show YET), but admit to obvious provocation I really do not want to.

[Zug]

The fact that they used the English Michurin and not off. Face for this is just their desire to show the uselessness and routine of the situation. Like, yes, let the agricultural minister make a mistake, we already have a lot of things to do without it. A bomb strike, like firing a cannon, does not seem it was, so the sailors would not sit quietly, you would be boiling over anybody.

[Letun]

Quote: For example

Did the Russian side use weapons or not?

A video for such cases was invented.

Show how they shot and how they bombed.

And we will be proud of the courage of the leader who gave the order.

And the Agriculture Secretary of England will continue to quietly grow oats.

I'm also curious if the British officially, at the highest level, declare that there was no bombing, perfectly aware of the fact that if it was, then most likely there was a video recording and they could be caught in a lie by the hand ... They are fools or bombs really did not throw?

[Roman070280]

Are they fools or bombs and really didn't throw?

Throwing .. but far away ..
Nobody thinks that the bombing was actually hundreds of meters from the ship ..

[bk316]

Nobody thinks that the bombing was actually hundreds of meters from the ship ..

There, fragments of about 300 meters fly.
I already wrote if the destroyer had been dropped for repairs 50 meters away.

[Roman070280]

I'm talking about the same thing ..
They dropped it somewhere in a few kilometers .. so it is quite possible to interpret it as you wish ..

[bk316]

They dropped it somewhere a few kilometers away.

Well, like this. Precautionary shooting according to the charter is carried out so as not to inflict defeat.
Even though the Kalash is on guard at least su-24.

[Roman070280]

Though on guard from Kalash

The sound of a Kalash shot in the forest can be attributed to an exercise ..

so as not to be defeated.

For example - at a distance of 10 km from the ship ..))

[bk316]

The sound of a Kalash shot in the forest can be attributed to an exercise ..

Definitely.

[For example]

Quote: bk316

There, fragments of about 300 meters fly.

On Bykov there is a 57 mm cannon.
What are the fragments of 300 meters?

A warning shot is not shooting to kill with all World Cup barrels.

Or, as Tymoshenko suggested - to shoot from atomic weapons!
But, damn it, there are no atomic pistols on Bykovo.

Quote: Roman070280

Throwing .. but far away ..

Definitely.
In the Vladivostok area.

Quote: Roman070280

Nobody thinks ...

And that's true. Let the horse think it has a big head.
And why should the rest think?
Believe what has been said!

Your remark reminded an anecdote of how the map rolled to Rzhevsky.

[Roman070280]

On Bykov there is a 57 mm cannon.
What are the fragments of 300 meters?

Probably, it was about AFAB ..

[bk316]

AFAB

O Roman O, ShrapnelHigh ExplosiveAircraftBomb

[bk316]

On Bykov there is a 57 mm cannon.
What are the fragments of 300 meters?

OFAB-250 - didn’t not hear, don’t know?

[swan49]

I read somewhere that the polygon safety zone for the five hundred is 2,5 km. Hence, for 250 kg, it is probably 1,5-2 km. You won't really see anything without binoculars.

[Asad]

And how many kilometers can you see the explosion of this bomb?

[Roman070280]

I have not seen..

[Gardamir]

I have not seen.

And the Kremlin's posons do not know about the existence of the Internet. They need to get their rating up to the elections. This is how they will defend Russia in words, but in deeds?
Thank you for the video! And let the haters of Russia minus. The truth is one.

[bk316]

Depends on the type of fuse. On the water it can be 5 km and 100 meters.

[Gardamir]

No, really, there is a video where they shoot and bomb suddenly, it's all classified

[sabakina]

Quote: For example

Show how they shot and how they bombed.

And also, how they overtook, how they cut ... the traffic police vaasche animals!

[Charik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_gAmHF-Fk&t=572s

[knn54]

- "They have nothing to do with the passage of the destroyer and were caused by the training that took place in Russia."
Joint training of the border service of the FSB and the Aerospace Forces?
One plane and one boat, respectively
It is good that the "eco-farmer" did not think of saying the following - one suppresses the fish, and the other picks up ...

[alex neym_2]

The navigator clearly graduated from the agricultural vocational school after the 8th grade, if he paved a course from Odessa to Georgia through Cape Fiolent - the HIGHEST achievement of the Anglerepean school ... well, what can't you do for the sake of the owner ...

[Nitarius]

oats were mixed with cannabis ... oh, this one has eaten! if the donkey is drawn to the bear! )

[Tank jacket]

On board the destroyer was also a correspondent for the Daily Mail.

Here are his impressions: “The roar of volley fire is heard on the left side of the HMS Defender and I crouch in my hastily donned fire-resistant gloves and balaclava. We are pursued by Coast Guard vessels, and every couple of minutes planes crash overhead.

The deafening roar of a supersonic plane filling my ears is a disturbing but exciting experience. After the second burst of shots from the enemy cannon, I heard the message that we have "two effective missiles with a high degree of destruction."

The drama began about an hour ago when we approached the territorial waters of Crimea to carry out what the Royal Navy calls a freedom of navigation patrol.

Despite the fact that today's passage is completely legal and justified in accordance with the UN charters and international conventions on shipping, there is no doubt that we are poking a Russian bear. "

This is another confirmation that there was a provocation.

[Victor Besedin]

"Show how they shot and how they bombed."
Watch: FSB has published a video of warning firing at the course of the destroyer Defender in the Black Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYNKKb6eJtE&t=20s

[Legionista]

Absolutely correct reaction of the Russian Navy. Absolutely correct actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Enough already "to pile on the sides of the ships-intruders." Bombs are designed to be thrown at enemies.

[Asad]

Who can argue? Nobody just saw the bomb.

[APASUS]

An interesting interpretation of what is happening. One day a British warship was sailing past the Black Sea and came under fire, and then under bombing, almost hit it. It turned out that the Russians were training.

[bk316]

It turned out that the Russians are training.

Moreover, the FSB patrol is training in conjunction with the Su-24

[Uncle lee]

Quote: APASUS

Russians are training.

On an English destroyer! Here are the barbarians zhezh ... And the destroyer had no idea, poor fellow!

[rocket757]

Or in Britain, for some time now, destroyers are equated with agricultural equipment? ..

And sho, okay, we also "passed it! Let's remember the old Soviet jokes about the peaceful Soviet harvesters / tractors!

[cniza]

There is something in this, we are joking, but they are really commenting on the military provocation, a person who has nothing to do with it ...

[rocket757]

No, no, that's humor, they, we don't get fed up !!!
It is difficult to perceive .... we will look at their clowns from the side, very from afar.

[cniza]

Their jokes for them, they smell unpleasant ...

[rocket757]

And what else can come from the other side.

[Bear]

Smiled. The Ministry of Agriculture of the small britain comments on the actions of the Navy.
The Ministry of Agriculture of the Russian Federation answered "colleagues" from Britain
Soviet work about the "peaceful tractor":

We inform you of a flagrant fact:
On the banks of the Amur River in the midst of native fields
Our simple Soviet peace tractor was exposed
The shelling of six Chinese batteries.

Hearing the wild cry of the Chinese landing
Soviet tractor driver, by the title of starley,
Answered the fire with one powerful salvo
And destroyed six Chinese batteries.

And then, draining the gas and starting the reactor,
He plowed all of them and quickly introduced manure.
Our Soviet peace tractor rose into the sky
And he flew home to his beloved state farm.

The next day in an interview with special editors of their editorial offices
The Soviet foreman, by the rank of captain,
He said that in the case of the second such provocation
Instead of a tractor, we will release a harvester on the field!

[Flashpoint]

And let the small British Selpo be wiped out!

[Cananecat]

Secretary of the Environment, Food and Agriculture George Youstice

Never before has the encryption from the Angian Cabinet of Ministers been transmitted to Cent so openly ...

[sabakina]

It is strange in itself that the incident with the British warship is being commented on by an official from the Department of Environment and Agriculture.

Nothing strange. Since the release of the film "Beware of the Car" their training manuals have not changed.

By the way, as an employee of the environmental prosecutor's office, I can safely say: the British destroyer destroyed the virginity of the tulka!

[Wedmak]

Should have been aiming at a destroyer? To say the evidence was on the face?
AA .... I seem to have found a use for combat lasers in the fleet - to write obscene words on board the enemy when intercepting. 100% proof!

[tralflot1832]

The Saxons will resist to the last, they did not shoot at them, they did not bomb, a single pelvis of the fleet of his "old lady Lizka." Do not forget, the destroyer from Lizka's escort, the one that is the ship. And this united squadron is going to the South China Sea. And the Chinese will think that the Russians can, but we cannot.

[Silhouette]

So far, the video has shown a frontier TFR, trailing in the tail of an English destroyer with a lag of about a mile and drying, flying parallel to the course of the intruder. Precautionary bombing is carried out at the intersection of the course. If it were, then the slave aircraft would have recorded it. And the border guards must have filmed the video, albeit from afar.

[Wedmak]

Their BBC journalist was broadcasting about 20 planes ... Looks like while 19 were arguing who would bomb and who would shoot, the 24th slipped through and did everything himself. Now he will give the video only for gesheft.

[tralflot1832]

There is a video of the Air Force, where our border guard goes side by side with a provocateur. Between the ships a hundred meters, along the sides. On the bridge they are calm, but at the central post they are cheerful. They even showed a screen with the novigational situation. ...

[Fungus]

What a tail! The border ship caught up with the destroyer and walked alongside him opposite.

[bk316]

What a tail! The border ship caught up with the destroyer and walked alongside him opposite.

Well, fighters see not what they are but what they want.
As it turned out now (even if the communists) and take the gentlemen at their word.

[strength]

The British destroyer reaches a speed of over 30 knots. They, according to the commander of the destroyer, were moving at such a speed, and our patrol ships tried to catch up by periodically accelerating, but resigned themselves and then went at a speed of 21 knots.
His words just coincide with the information he knows of our ships: 10 knots (patrol), 21 knots (cruising) and 28 knots (full)

[bk316]

Precautionary bombing is carried out at the intersection of the course.

Why would you? At the very least, warning firing is being conducted accurately from a parallel course. I think bombing too.

[sabakina]

Silhouette, when the bulk of our TFR occurred, there were not, let alone telephones with video cameras, there were no digital cameras. Nevertheless, the footage was from both sides. It remains to wait.

[Orkraider]

Quote: Silhouette

So far, the video has shown a frontier TFR, trailing in the tail of an English destroyer with a lag of somewhere in a mile and drying, flying parallel to the course of the intruder.

At least side by side.
The sound of the AK is heard at 2: 15-2: 22 video.
For me, personally, warning shots from the TFR have been proven.
In the photo I left time with the BBS video, you can see:

[Victor Besedin]

"Yes, and the border guards must have filmed the video, albeit from afar." - look ... Video full - FSB post FSB published video and negotiations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl9A0q9XBbs&t=25s

[Ruslan Sulima]

The British have to go to hell. What is there to discuss the Russian message?
By the way, there is a good subparagraph in the appeal of the Russian Foreign Ministry on the request to refuse to participate in the next exercises in the Black Sea.

[vl903]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

The British have to go to hell. What is there to discuss the Russian message?
By the way, there is a good subparagraph in the appeal of the Russian Foreign Ministry on the request to refuse to participate in the next exercises in the Black Sea.

our message was peeing on the bear's face right next to the vaunted missile battery Utes, and the bear pee and did not even get out of the den. Not the first and not the last time. Why do we need such an army and navy? to protect someone's oil and gas interests, that's all. they do not protect our borders. and us (you can see it in Donbas). and they cannot defend themselves (how many pilots were beaten with impunity?) for how we puff out our cheeks! already takes pride!

[Ruslan Sulima]

I cannot comment on your message, there is little information.
And the British have to go to hell, why comment on the Russian message?

[vl903]

so far we were sent to hell at home like last year and said that they would come and send next.

[jncnfdybr]

Where do you live? In Ukraine?

[vl903]

Quote: jncnfdybr

Where do you live? In Ukraine?

if I lived in Ukraine, I would be happy. and I am very annoyed, but I can not do anything from my couch

[vl903]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

And that's awful! Ass off the couch and go! Like me!

how are you? sat on su27 and walked on shaved at a height of 10 meters? or how else can you influence the layman on this situation? or did you go to Donbass?

[vl903]

Respect !!! I'm 50, no vision. such as me cannon fodder only for total conflict and probably can do

[Ruslan Sulima]

I'm 46, I didn't immediately become a sniper.
I was just not indifferent to all the bullshit going on around. The death of loved ones at the hands of ukrokaratels who call themselves liberators forced them to make a choice ... Something like that.

[jncnfdybr]

And who does not allow you to leave for your beloved country? Like a tablecloth.)) If something did not suit me, I would have left my place of residence long ago.)

[vl903]

well, go, potential immigrant))) why should I give the land for which my grandfathers fought in the Crimean, World War I, Civil War, WWII to such as you, the hats (who thanks for the shame of 1905 and the defeat of June 22) and the Gorbachevites (thanks for surrendering Afghan and donated by the United States on a silver platter to the people of the USSR)?

[jncnfdybr]

And here it is not correct. I don’t betray my Motherland. And he served (protected) her 28 calendars. And now I will not betray. And you are apparently young?

[vl903]

I am 50, did not serve (by sight). I do not consider Ukraine a separate state, I consider it a temporarily occupied province of Russia. in the incident with the destroyer I saw the consistent impunity of the Angles and the toothlessness of our army (there are no complaints about the army itself, but about the political elite ...) something like this

[Ruslan Sulima]

So you are an idiot, neither kinship nor family remembering ...

[jncnfdybr]

Am I looking at you 50? And you still haven't got your mind? But if only they would go to the garrisons with mine. You look and you would grow wiser. I'm 64. But for the idiot- Hear Svidomo scum you can keep quiet.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well, God forbid that you in your 60s did something other than la-la in the fight against Svidomo. I've already seen enough of idiots from my Donetsk side ...

[jncnfdybr]

By the way about the family. I have a big family. Three children, five grandchildren (granddaughters). I am very happy with life.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well done! And I am fighting for the opportunity to live for my family. And God forbid, I will wait for my grandson or granddaughter and I can not only kiss them, but also ensure safety, protection from persons with an unstable psyche ...

[jncnfdybr]

I don’t understand, Ruslan? I didn't write to you. I was talking to v1903. There are no complaints about you. I wish you happiness and victory. I was in Donetsk in 2015.I’m from the Kuban.)

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well xs, your phrase about the opportunity to spit on everything and dump, somehow does not add positive emotions)
You see, this is where it all starts, this was the reason why the Donetsk people will dump it ... But fuck it, how will I look my grandfather in the eyes in the next world in this situation?)

[jncnfdybr]

Well, you do not understand me. It happens. Good luck to you.)

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

So you, neither kinship nor family, remembering ...

Oh, damn it! Fighter, it's all over! I won all of them. Would.
Here is this:

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

our message was peeing on the bear's face right next to the vaunted missile battery Utes, and the bear pee and did not even get out of the den. Not the first and not the last time. Why do we need such an army and navy? to protect someone's oil and gas interests, that's all. they do not protect our borders. and us (you can see it in Donbas). and they cannot defend themselves (how many pilots were beaten with impunity?) for how we puff out our cheeks! already takes pride!

Poor you, unfortunate! So sorry for you, so sorry! To tears!...
Here you are not lucky with the country: they wrote and described themselves, did not get far the first time; the army and the navy are not like that, they are defending something wrong ...
We celebrated my birthday here with the whole family, but the middle granddaughter read out your cry from the heart - she learns recitation and vocals - and we all felt so bitter that we decided to immediately curtail this event. It’s not good to have fun when, you know, it’s written and described! To what extent, do you understand, they have brought a person, if he is so agitated that Donbass cannot write correctly ?!
And come on, I'll throw off two hundred scars for you, eh? It should be enough for a jersey. Or what are you pouring in your unreasonable melancholy?
I myself am nasty, but your words touched me so much that I knocked over a pile for the first time in my life! I’ll go, or something, to the nearest landfill TBH, admire the seagulls. There and a swamp nearby ... Have you ever heard how the toads sing in chorus? Very soothing, I recommend it. Eh! ..
What are you saying? What are the toads in this heat? So we have a cinder block plant not far from here. The sky is only occasionally seen, when the rain and wind are strong, and now there is a shade. For toads what you need.

[vl903]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

our message was peeing on the bear's face right next to the vaunted missile battery Utes, and the bear pee and did not even get out of the den. Not the first and not the last time. Why do we need such an army and navy? to protect someone's oil and gas interests, that's all. they do not protect our borders. and us (you can see it in Donbas). and they cannot defend themselves (how many pilots were beaten with impunity?) for how we puff out our cheeks! already takes pride!

Poor you, unfortunate! So sorry for you, so sorry! To tears!...
Here you are not lucky with the country: they wrote and described themselves, did not get far the first time; the army and the navy are not like that, they are defending something wrong ...
We celebrated my birthday here with the whole family, but the middle granddaughter read out your cry from the heart - she learns recitation and vocals - and we all felt so bitter that we decided to immediately curtail this event. It’s not good to have fun when, you know, it’s written and described! To what extent, do you understand, they have brought a person, if he is so agitated that Donbass cannot write correctly ?!
And come on, I'll throw off two hundred scars for you, eh? It should be enough for a jersey. Or what are you pouring in your unreasonable melancholy?
I myself am nasty, but your words touched me so much that I knocked over a pile for the first time in my life! I’ll go, or something, to the nearest landfill TBH, admire the seagulls. There and a swamp nearby ... Have you ever heard how the toads sing in chorus? Very soothing, I recommend it. Eh! ..
What are you saying? What are the toads in this heat? So we have a cinder block plant not far from here. The sky is only occasionally seen, when the rain and wind are strong, and now there is a shade. For toads what you need.

Get out and you, dear one, from your swamp, at least to the coast of Gagra (Abkhazia), to the place where the Shevardnadze's men shot Russian vacationers from machine guns (oh yes, they probably don't tell you this in your swamp, about Donbass, Transnistria, Odessa, the Baltic states, I’ll just keep quiet so that you have an appetite do not spoil, flies and mosquitoes you probably are greasy now. Be careful not to sleep until the heron bites you. But do not think that your swamp is always safe. Someone protects it, someone serves. But only because of your fat there is nothing around I even envy you. Eat calmly, sleep and the heron, if suddenly you don't even have time to say meow. A man in the street .... I should have been in your place !!!! fingers are thick for the phone and in Russian it was 3)

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: vl903

I even envy you. Eat calmly, sleep and the heron, if suddenly you don't even have time to say meow to eat you.

So all the same thanks to you, yacht! You for us, for everyone, including me and that guy, were worried with all your liver! Defend us, unreasonable, without leaving the couch. So we will win! That is, you will win, of course. So I went out for a walk. What is the weather!

[vl903]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: vl903

I even envy you. Eat calmly, sleep and the heron, if suddenly you don't even have time to say meow to eat you.

So all the same thanks to you, yacht! You for us, for everyone, including me and that guy, were worried with all your liver! Defend us, unreasonable, without leaving the couch. So we will win! That is, you will win, of course. So I went out for a walk. What is the weather!

I do not hide that I am a sofa expert. But to say that the English was scared is a common lie. He clearly did his job of humiliating Russia. There is no video of his intimidation or defeat. And so yes. Victory! Feast on in your swamp. On people like you, the fortune of the owners of the largest yachts in the world is held as well. They did not even shoot to kill because of them.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: vl903

I do not hide that I am a sofa expert. But to say that the English was scared is a common lie. He clearly did his job of humiliating Russia. There is no video of his intimidation or defeat.

And where does the sofa expert get the deep conviction that Russia has been humiliated? Just because there is no video of intimidation? Does the couch expert sing only about what he sees? Although it is unlikely ... After all, the sofa expert has already pulled out from there, where the sun never looks, all the ins and outs of what happened and smeared it with her from head to toe.
That they didn't shoot to kill? Probably, the sofa expert rushes with his fists at any oncoming-cross, in order to forestall. And preempted many? Thunderstorm of any enemy or just your sofa?
I am sure that your life credo is: "It is harmful to think, you have to think it over."

[vl903]

the border at sea is what your fleet protects. some 3 miles, some 12 miles, sometimes more. an economic zone is where your warships drive out civilian competitors from. a warship inspects any civilian vessel at sea if it is not afraid to be shocked by other warships. The Angles show every year that they can walk wherever they want, and the Americans near Vladivovostok are also welcome. Our civilian ships are easily inspected. These are facts. You read that ours would inspect an American or British ship. What would our people dispute the Falklands or Hawaii? I don't remember, although of course I want to hope that I'm wrong

[Tagan]

Why did the Brita get so nervous, as if they were deprived of their virginity?

[vl903]

Quote: Tagan

Why did the Brita get so nervous, as if they were deprived of their virginity?

because they practically put it on our heads, and we present it as our victory. it certainly pisses them off)))

[Paranoid50]

Quote: vl903

because they practically put on our heads,

This is noticeable - it smells of comments. And who else besides you - who to stay away from?

[vl903]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: vl903

because they practically put on our heads,

This is noticeable - it smells of comments. And who else besides you - who to stay away from?

I don't like it either, but the video so that it would be seen that the English changed the course set his tail between his legs and said that he would no longer be uploaded. while the video shows that Angle's tail is upright, unfortunately

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

one thing is clear, the Angles went on a provocation and they completely succeeded

[Bez 310]

I have one question - if the bombs were used, then at what distance from the intruder ship?
In the meantime, based on the fact that our side does not provide a video (photo) of the bombing, we can conclude that we screwed up again.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Bez 310

In the meantime, based on the fact that our side does not provide a video (photo) of the bombing, we can conclude that we screwed up again.

The blind will not see, the deaf will not hear, but this is due not to their mental disabilities, but to their physical ones. The footage presented by the BBC shows at least one column of water raised by the explosion, 3-4 cables along the course.

[Bez 310]

Quote: Vladimir61

a column of water raised by an explosion, 3-4 cables at the course

Could you please point me clearly to the "column of water raised by the explosion"?

[Yuri V.A]

The height of the sultan from the FAB-250 gap would be about one hundred meters and would take a third of the frame at a distance of 3-4 cabs. Judging by the weak splash in the video, it was either thrown off a barrel of holes, or bombed much further.

[Bez 310]

Quote: Yuri V.A

The height of the sultan from the FAB-250 gap would be about one hundred meters

The fact is that I had to work on a surface target with FAB-250 bombs, and I have a good idea of ​​what should be happening there on the water.
Here, for example, I drop 12 FAB-250 on a surface target:

[Yuri V.A]

Great, but the height is three kilometers?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Yuri V.A

the height of three kilometers?

900 meters.
The radius of the scattering of fragments did not allow below.
The target - a pontoon (raft) measuring 4x6 meters was destroyed.

[Yuri V.A]

From level flight? It really hurts for sure ... in fact, put it in the tank for sure.

[Bez 310]

Quote: Yuri V.A

From level flight? It really hurts ...

Sometimes ...
We had an old transport as a target at the test site, so I saw the photo control of the bombing, where the bomb enters the tube.

[Yuri V.A]

Such shots are exclusive, cool!

[Prisoner]

Everything! So agriculture has improved. It was necessary to heat it. Then there would be no disputes. And what about a Gly cap full of loshara? Apparently yes. They fired at him for nothing, he was neither sleep nor spirit. The crew to disband, the captain as an agronomist or livestock technician on land.

[Kushka]

[quote = Novel070280] [quote] ..
[quote] so as not to defeat. [/ quote] For example - at a distance of 10 km from the ship ..)) [/ quote]
Persuaded. Only 10, no more! So the high-rise building in Miami fell.

[Asad]

Who is strong in English, translate what adversaries basl?

[From Tomsk]

For the British, Crimea is a very sore subject, since the Russian tsar there unwound their cavalry from noble families with artillery, so it hurts ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: From Tomsk

For the British, Crimea is a very sore subject, since the Russian tsar there unwound their cavalry from noble families with artillery, so it hurts ...

for us, it’s not very healthy

For the heroism shown in battles in England, the highest military award was established, called the "Victoria Cross". It was awarded to soldiers and officers of the army and navy of Great Britain, as well as the allied armies that fought in the interests of the empire. The award is made of bronze, which was smelted from Russian cannons captured in Sevastopol as trophies after the end of the Crimean War of 1853-1856.

[Tagan]

Quote: vl903

Quote: Tagan

Why did the Brita get so nervous, as if they were deprived of their virginity?

because they practically put it on our heads, and we present it as our victory. it certainly pisses them off)))

Yeah, like kakli in harem pants on Red Square.

[sannyhome]

Our ships must pass along the northwest coast of Small Britain and declare that they did not violate the borders of England, but sailed through the territorial waters of Scotland.

[farm2009]

And they nafig will sink and say that it should be so.

[Horon]

It will be a pity for Britain after that!

[farm2009]

Quote: Horon

It will be a pity for Britain after that!

Why? What serious thing can we do to her for this?

[Horon]

You are nothing specifically, but the targeted destruction of a combat unit without warning is an incident. On the other hand, if you have to go for such a provocation, then I do not think that one of the planning options will not take into account such development, and hence the use of this fact in your own interests.

[Ravik]

A bucket of shit should have been drained onto the deck ...
This is where England would have wiped off ...

[Vladimir61]

Meanwhile, the British are calling on their country's military to provide unequivocal evidence that statements about the bombing of the Su-24M and warning firing from the Russian Coast Guard ship "have nothing to do with the passage of the destroyer and were caused by training in Russia."

Exactly! Why be indignant? We do not have NATO standards. How would your provocateurs not be on the list of allowable losses of equipment, and possibly personnel, during our exercises.

[Roman070280]

Video......

[Horon]

Did the British also shoot video from the plane?
This is propaganda from the other side, and you are like flies!

[Roman070280]

Did the British also shoot video from the plane? fool
This is propaganda from the other side, and you are like flies!

Write a complaint to the BBC if you don't like something, and do not bang your head ..

PS .. I just posted a video .. without any comments .. but still there were a couple of completely sick idiots who also managed to put a minus here ..))

[Horon]

Such a video has already been posted above, why the hell to duplicate it? And yet it was necessary to somehow indicate their opinion once already posted, so as not to produce entities in the comments!

[Roman070280]

Such a video has already been posted above, why the hell to duplicate it

I can post it again .. will it change something ??)

yet I had to somehow express my opinion, since already posted

It is designated - "Video" .. I mean - the video of the incident ..

so as not to spawn entities in the comments!

Here again I am to blame for you breeding entities ..))

[Horon]

Sorry, are you feeling okay?
Here is also a video, with a set of individual episodes, but it does not repeat yours and the earlier ones. Instead of admitting your mistake, you try to troll. This is a collection of different episodes of this incident, some of which were shown in the BBC program, in order to give the atmosphere of credibility necessary for propaganda.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DV7i1TOOV3mg&ved=2ahUKEwjA07K0oLDxAhVos4sKHUhvBcMQFjABegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw0jj5r_pSXA1Nfg5HMFMJQP

[Roman070280]

Sorry, are you feeling okay?

Perfectly..
But you wanted to hesitate to the post ..))

Instead of admitting your mistake

My oversight ??) Do you feel okay ?? I ask without any apologies ..))
(what is the oversight - I won’t even be interested .. for some, the oversight is simply the very existence of the video)

This is a collection of different episodes of this incident.

AND?? Would you like to complain to me about the BBC or what ?? Or maybe write to Sportloto right away ??

[Silhouette]

What is there to say? The provocation was a success. The Brits fulfilled their task. Now we should expect not a single ship, but a group. They will definitely include "Sagaidachny" in the group, for this they will allocate money to repair it. Russia has two points of such traditional provocations - the Gulf of Peter the Great in the Sea of ​​Japan and Fiolent on the Black Sea. In the spring of 1982, the Tashkent submarine fired its RBU-600 at the rate of an American destroyer that had entered our thervodes in the Peter the Great Gulf. Prior to that, a border boat also tried unsuccessfully to stop him. The destroyer raised the signal "I am unable to control" and silently walked on its course, without leaving the 16 channel. But when water columns from depth charges rose along the course, then, not lowering the flag signal, he turned in the opposite direction. The commander of the Tashkent battalion, Captain 2nd Rank Zdesenko, was first thanked for the successfully completed task, and then, after notes of protest from the American Foreign Ministry, they began to spread rot at all party activists of the 10th squadron and fleet for nearly starting a new world war. Since then and until now, the Americans did not go there, until the incident occurred with the destroyer McCain and the BOD Admiral Vinogradov, when the Vinogradov forced the McCain out of the territory by dangerous maneuvers.

[tralflot1832]

The British have a long tradition with Russia. Remember Lord Pound and the convoy PQ 17. A little in the bushes and silence!

[Reserve buildbat]

And who knows why, after our warning that we will shoot, the shaved ones put on all the muzzles at once? So that the frightened muzzles are not visible or is there some real goal? Can it just start to cut your eyes from the stench, how did you get shit?

[Silhouette]

These are fire-fighting equipment. Dress up on alarm.

[Reserve buildbat]

Synthetic cloths on the face - fire-fighting agents? Can you tell me how they work, what is their meaning? I just can't imagine.

[Silhouette]

Non-combustible cloths. They protect the most vulnerable places in case of fire - hands and head.

[Reserve buildbat]

Got it. I always believed that protection from fire should be more reliable, including protection of the respiratory system.

[tralflot1832]

After the provoker was kicked out of the Russian terrorist drive, they immediately invited Putin VV to the EU summit. Macron and Merkel stood up. Guess at once who is against it.

[BAI]

1. The British Department of Defense announced that the ship was in Odessa.
2. The BBC showed a report (there was a correspondent on board "by accident"), from which it follows that the British Ministry of Defense is lying, and the ship deliberately went into the waters "which the Russians consider theirs."
3. Nobody in the world considers these waters to be Russian. Legally, for the whole world Crimea is Ukraine and these are Ukrainian waters. Many interesting events on this topic await us.

[markant1970]

Judging by the video, the British were going to seriously fight the aviation.

[Horon]

??? Judging by their stupidity, they should have put on life jackets before this! In the event of a real destruction of this vessel, the crew would not even have time to cross themselves. The proverb "one in the field is not a soldier" is just for such a case.

[Stas1973]

On the vidosik from the BBS - about 2,58 - ours clearly says that fire will be opened if they do not knock it down, at 2,58 - a combat alert was announced on the destroyer, they wear fire capes, at 3,05 the sounds of shots are clearly audible and visible boiling on the bridge. But there are no sounds of detonation of bombs, as well as bursts.

[1536]

These "fire-proof capes" are reminiscent of terrorists' balaclavas.

[Charik]

and the head of the Ministry of Labor or the Ministry of Sports, what do they say?

[1536]

It is not surprising that the United Kingdom Secretary of Agriculture should comment on the provocative actions of the British Navy. The British need a fleet only to provide manufacturers or buyers in Britain with protection on the trade and caravan routes of the oceans. The British will never "forgive" Russia that Crimea has once again become a subject of its Federation, because the peninsula is the key to the entire Black Sea, to the Black Sea straits. For Russia, this is the only quick exit to the Mediterranean Sea, to bases in Syria, to trade and caravan routes, and the so-called Ukraine would certainly transfer Crimea for free use to NATO countries, primarily the United States and Britain. That the British have forgotten in the Black Sea, which "trade routes" important to them, they are guarding, this question should also be asked to our economists. One thing is clear, it is impossible to negotiate with the British about any joint actions or mutually beneficial partnership, in particular on agricultural issues.
Thank God that we have the Black Sea Fleet!

[Jacket in stock]

The Brita said that there was no incident at all.
The same as last year.
Their ship was just sailing its course.
And the fact that there was some kind of vanity of the aborigines, they type did not notice at all. They are beyond that.

[DmSol]

Quote: Bez 310

Quote: Vladimir61

a column of water raised by an explosion, 3-4 cables at the course

Could you please point me clearly to the "column of water raised by the explosion"?

Will not indicate. For on all the cuts there are no pillars of either salt or water. But you shouldn't rush to hang labels either.

[wandlitz]

It is strange in itself that the incident with the British warship is being commented on by an official from the Department of Environment and Agriculture. Or in Britain, for some time now, destroyers are equated with agricultural equipment? ..
So maybe this destroyer became a supplier of fertilizers, i.e. manure, formed after the flight with the bombing of the SU-24M.

[Kapkan]

Well, in this situation, I can say this:
1. I have no doubt that ours were shooting.
2. I have no doubt that ours carried out the bombing.
However, if you look at the infographics of their different news, how the ship's course ran, it turns out that it passed through the sea border. I entered on one side of the border and left on the other.
And there was just such a calculation that according to the schedule the trajectory would be straight in order to invade and then exit painlessly.

And ours perfectly understood their maneuver. If this movement was towards land, then there would be fire on the target.
Thus, I draw the following conclusion:
The British groped for a working scheme of penetration into our territorial waters and realized that in this case, they would have nothing.
Provocations will continue and even intensify.
Hopefully ours have drawn conclusions too.
I would be in the leadership place - I would stop the ship. I would force you to go to our port. I would have arrested everyone.

[cniza]

Or in Britain, for some time now, destroyers are equated with agricultural equipment? ..

Uh-huh, a sea-based harvester ... completely gone too far ...

[xomaNN]

If now the policemen do not approach the citizens without seeing the registrar. That on PSKR that video registration should be. Moreover, the case will clearly be controversial. Where is the video?

[Uma palata]

Selpo was thrown into the voice acting.)))

[Rambiaka]

Good afternoon, dear, yesterday we posted a video of the shooting https://ru.rt.com/it73

[aszzz888]

Head of the British Ministry of Agriculture

Ehsperd!))

[Eugene 102]

apparently a more competent official was not found, and the head of the Ministry of Agriculture and in defense fumbles