"Johnson is doing everything right, returning the global status to the fleet": the British comment on the violation of the Russian borders by the destroyer Defender

Discussion continues on the details related to the fact that on the eve of the British Navy destroyer Defender violated the Russian maritime borders in the Sevastopol region. The British Defense Ministry confirmed the information that a missile-armed warship was approaching close to the Crimean Peninsula. The same information is confirmed by the BBC reporter on board the Defender. The British journalist noted that the coast of Crimea was visible from the destroyer.

At the same time, as already reported by Voennoye Obozreniye, in London, commenting on the situation, they said that the warship was making "a peaceful transition through the territorial waters of Ukraine in full compliance with international law."
At the same time, Britain recalled that Ukraine and “earlier provided an opportunity for NATO warships to use their territorial waters in the Crimean Peninsula region, as well as the airspace over Crimea. We will remind that earlier in Kiev NATO countries called on "to use the airspace of the Crimea during exercises." Then none of the NATO members dared to take advantage of the appeal of the Ukrainian authorities.

At the same time, Britain refused to admit that the Russian Coast Guard ship opened warning fire and that the Su-24M was bombing along the course of the HMS Defender. The Ministry of Defense of the United Kingdom, commenting on eyewitness testimony that there was both warning shooting and bombing, issued the following:

We believe the Russians were conducting artillery exercises in the Black Sea and warned the international community in advance of their activities.

Against this background, attention is drawn to how Western experts and ordinary media readers comment on the incident in the Black Sea. Opinions, it should be noted, were divided. While they call for "punishing Russia at the international level," others believe that the British military command "sent sailors to death." It is also discussed why the Russians should be “punished”. So, in the comments of the British themselves, bewilderment is expressed:

So what to punish for if the Ministry of Defense declares that there was no shooting by the Russians?

Other comments:

Boris (Johnson) is doing it right by returning the British the fleet global status.

Michael Mackay:

These are not Ukrainian boats that Putin seized a few years ago. No such measures were taken against a stronger enemy. Putin got scared ...

Meanwhile, the British press drew attention to a tweet from the Russian embassy, ​​which contains the following words:

HMS "Defender" (translation of the name of the British ship - approx. "VO") was turned into HMS "Provocateur" and forced to violate the Russian border. Not an ordinary transit, is it?

In Britain, they claim that "the situation was provoked by the Russian side", and "the British ship complied with international norms."

Disparos de advertencia fueron lanzados por cazas rusos y un barco patrullero contra el destructor británico HMS Defender el que segun Moscú violó la frontera del país en el Mar Negro. La Gran Bretaña global de Boris qué haría si Rusia envía barcos a Gibraltar, por ejemplo. pic.twitter.com/5HRL4HPttZ

- Infolliteras (@infolliteras) June 24, 2021

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, since the BBSpomoyka journalist "accidentally" was on board, it was clearly a provocation.

[vl903]

it was necessary to wait for the departure of the destroyer from the coast and ships and accidentally go beyond the sound above it. although this is almost a war, but one could apologize, as if by accident

[Civil]

This is undoubtedly a provocation, to which there was, in principle, an adequate response. Another question is why it was arranged? The USA themselves did not climb but sent their mongrel, which means this is probing some of the following actions.

[mikh-korsakov]

Vadim! IMHO. It was a provocation, but not just to annoy the Russian bear, but in order to determine the speed of the passage of commands with us. Let's say ours detected the passage of MHS Defender at time T1 .. A message about this was sent along the chain of information-executive commands in the prescribed manner. The NATO military needed to know the time T2 of the offensive of the force reaction, which was reflected in the conduct of warning firing. Time T3 also happened - the time from border violation to bombing. ... All other considerations about a peaceful passage, non-recognition of the Crimean territorial sea as a Russian one are public, they are all well taken into account. By the way, judging by the data of the published maps, they turned only a few degrees, because the bombing took place when the ship was already moving away from the coast of Crimea.

[Civil]

All other considerations about a peaceful passage, non-recognition of the Crimean territorial sea as a Russian one - this is for the public, they are all well taken into account.

Including, including the reaction of the public was assessed.

[Tatyana]

It is noteworthy that in London recently named the conditions under which the UK-Russia summit could take place following the example of the meeting held in Geneva between Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin, but only under certain conditions.
In this case, according to British Defense Minister Ben Wallace, for this supposedly it is imperative for Russia to end its "malicious acts."

Well, since without Boris Johnson - with the agreement of him with the Pentagon / Washington - such actions of the "Good Old England" Navy do not take place near the Russian borders, then we are talking about a JOINT provocation of Great Britain and the United States against the Russian Federation near the borders of the Russian Crimea.

This provocation of the British Navy pursues not only political, but UNSIGNIFICANT military-technical intelligence goals of the Pentagon / NATO in terms of preparation of the US and NATO war with Russia.

And as for Johnson himself, Johnson is on a tight leash off Washington, which even Spiegel has already written: "This is not the first time Boris Johnson has put his country in a stupid position!"

[llsamsonll]

At first it seemed to me that he had blades on his helmet like a helicopter

[Tatyana]

Quote: llsamsonll

At first it seemed to me that he had blades on his helmet like a helicopter

Well no! It's just that Johnson is for the demand of the local public high from the ground - in the heavens - along a tightrope in a direction laid by someone on BEARINGS with UK flags, like a dog on a leash, proudly glides and rides towards its British national goal.

[Barberry25]

well, they can forget about the summit .. or they will be purposefully dynamited ..

[Tatyana]

Quote: Barberry25

well, they can forget about the summit .. or they will be purposefully dynamited ..

That is why they partly climb with their British ships to the Russian Crimea, thereby filling their own worth in front of Russia! They bully themselves out of the doorway like a spaniard when they are not paid attention to.

[Barberry25]

Well, I think that Putin will not go to any summits anymore ... because he needed to wipe everything with the Can, he wiped it off, realized that he was and what he was with ... but it makes sense to go and meet with the Europeans, no ... They really have nothing to offer him .. They will not cancel the sanctions .. They will not go to war .. but the point is to meet?

[Barberry25]

and yet ... one thing is when Putin and Beadon met in a third country, and another is all sorts of "EU-Russia or Great Britain-Russia summits." There, like, Putin should fly to HIM, like he needs it, not them ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Barberry25

and yet ... one thing is when Putin and Beadon met in a third country, and another is all sorts of "EU-Russia or Great Britain-Russia summits." There, like, Putin should fly to HIM, like he needs it, not them ...

This is very logical and rightly noticed by you!

[keeper03]

Friends, all this of course great ! But what are we going to do with general vaccination ? !!
Why nobody writes anything on VO about biological weapons ?! Here you can quietly remove millions and billions of people without any war!
What is happening, why are we silent? !!

[llsamsonll]

Take the horse by the horns Write an article, do not forget about well-founded facts, documentary confirmation of scientific laboratories of virology. And we will read, discuss

[AVA77]

Livestock breeders advise that if the horse cannot be taken by the horns, then it should be taken by the udder.

[Charik]

Because TVs with newspapers trumpet that it is necessary - now they have hammered their heads with vaccinations

[mikh-korsakov]

Alexander! Sorry for the indiscreet question. Are you a virologist?

[keeper03]

No, not a virologist! I'm in other sciences. I used to think with my head more than others!

[dedusik]

And what does your head think about this? Just wondering

[Albert1988]

Quote: keeper03

Friends, all this is certainly great! But what are we going to do with the general vaccination? !!

So that's the problem, that there is no it, universal and obligatory, as from smallpox everyone in infancy is spanked ... From that, nothing prevents the spread of the virus and therefore more infectious strains constantly arise. Had we now had a "universal" vaccination, as you put it yourself, there would be no such horror as now in Moscow ...

[Barberry25]

already billions, well, ok, about 35 million injections have already been made in the country ... following your logic, the mortality rate should be at least 20% ... then we are talking about 7 million dead ... so at least 15-30 links to the dead you can lead ...

[Edward P.]

Go vaccinate, I have already been vaccinated and everything is fine, otherwise it will be bad for everyone, but if you don’t want to, don’t do it, but don’t muddy the water

[lucul]

By the way, judging by the data of the published maps, they turned only a few degrees,

There is no need to look at fake maps - watch the last seconds of the video from the drone, there it is clearly visible on the destroyer's wake, how many degrees he turned away.

[vl903]

Quote: Civil

This is undoubtedly a provocation, to which there was, in principle, an adequate response. Another question is why it was arranged? The USA themselves did not climb but sent their mongrel, which means this is probing some of the following actions.

answer Inadequate, but this is what we can do now. Shame is the lot of the weak, we must face the truth. The Englishwoman did everything she wanted and calmly left. This is what distinguishes warships from civilian ships - I do what I want, I do not agree to shoot, if I know that the opponent will shoot, I do not violate the border of his country. This is de facto international law. The rest for the ladies and the first channel of TV. The adequate answer, in addition to shooting to kill, was the daily anchorage of Peter the Great, at the main village of the Falklands, at the invitation of Argentina.

[mikh-korsakov]

What is the lot of the weak? In this case, you understand that on the part of NATO there was a reconnaissance of the speed of passage of commands to the Black Sea Fleet and nothing more. I do not exclude that we have entered the game from our side as well. Why? Because earlier, during such provocations, we did not answer them. I do not exclude that in this case, too, we entered the game so that the chain of information-executive commands would be a little slower. Like, Comrade Captain is sitting in the latrine and cannot sign in the logbook of receiving the order to fire. Joke! It does not matter that this would give NATO "experts" a reason to laugh at the sluggishness of the Russian bear, and once again sprinkle ashes on their heads for VO commentators. But someone in NATO would be disoriented.

[vl903]

a ship of a country that declares that it does not recognize the right of England to the Falklands and will violate the border every year at the invitation of Argentina will be able to get away with impunity? Well, the reaction time is nice little things. everything else is Gorbachev

[Thompson]

Throwing beads is the lot of stupid people.
The question is simple: what would you personally do if you had such powers?

[vl903]

Quote: Thompson

Throwing beads is the lot of stupid people.
The question is simple: what would you personally do if you had such powers?

1. anchorage at the Falklands at the invitation of Argentina. 2 dropping of manure and training bombs on the destroyer. 3 launch of the target missile over the destroyer. 4 aircraft pass directly above the destroyer. 5 bulk, but it is necessary in advance to adjust the desired board in the right place, which is not a pity. 7. training torpedoes. The main task is to set the sailors to wean the impudent ones. Moremans would have come up with it.

[Thompson]

Damn ... like a little child. And maybe a little.
They were given a TASK. They DONE it !!!
It's like a slap in the face of a naughty person and a warning that it just won't work and it will be worse next time.
Tactics and strategy are not your strong point

[vl903]

Quote: Thompson

Damn ... like a little child. And maybe a little.
They were given a TASK. They DONE it !!!
It's like a slap in the face of a naughty person and a warning that it just won't work and it will be worse next time.
Tactics and strategy are not your strong point

if I didn’t understand. who gave someone a slap in the face. I saw that the Angles quietly passed. Russia, like a pug, barked after me. all neighing. or I misunderstood. decipher pliz

[Thompson]

You have an inflamed, inadequate perception of reality.
You see a black cat in a dark room. And the cat is not there!
We walked calmly, calmly got excited, calmly began to prepare for the rush, quickly calmly turned it away and restlessly quickly washed away

[your1970]

P. 2,3,7 - could entail retaliatory actions. For example, shooting down Su-shki.
What's next?
The point of dumping manure (where, by the way, will you find it in less than 10 minutes?) - if further it will immediately be necessary to beat nuclear weapons on the USA ???? !!!

[vl903]

Well, if you are afraid of retaliation, then it is better to immediately surrender and become a colony. at least the standard of living will be the same as in other colonies. and if he called himself a load, then do not be afraid. Churchill seems to have said that choosing shame instead of war will get both shame and war. the next step, this English will go along the Volga to Moscow, interested persons will lament, if only there was no war! the history of our inhabitants does not teach anything? can take away the cartridges from the military and the border guards, well, what if there was no war? p. 8 - it is possible to throw depth charges under the bottom, though I don’t know whether the boats remained like that or not

[your1970]

Quote: vl903

churchill

lived in those days when nuclear weapons were a piece of rarity.
Personally, you are ready for the fact that in the event of a war during half an hour will die least 10-15 million? Old women and children?

Quote: vl903

this English will go down the Volga

You may not have noticed that it was in our water for less than 20? And quickly overseas after the bombs urged on the course?

[vl903]

I noticed that under your songs, as planned, openly declaring this, the United States is strangling us, breaking into parts and making them unusable for life, where by shelling and death, where by impoverishment. and they say so, the main thing is that Russia does not reach the level of an aggressive response, but slowly suffocates. no one is hiding anything. And you sing to us about Hiroshima. Do you work for the State Department or what? Have you seen these bombs? Or is there a map showing that the destroyer has veered off course? but a couple of bent shpaungout and broken sonar will make you think. and nothing more. until June 22, too, sang - the main thing is not to succumb to provocations !!! it cost us probably 5 million soldiers and 15 million civilians. Well, in the news, even our Defense Ministry has already moved on the topic of the visibility of fire)))

[your1970]

Quote: vl903

until June 22, too, sang - the main thing is not to succumb to provocations !!! it cost us probably 5 million soldiers and 15 million civilians.

that is, based on your position - Stalin should was to attack Germany (and no later than 10.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX !!!!) ????? !!!!!!!! Vaughn what ...
Apparently if I would have attacked, then there were no victims at all, right ???

[vl903]

either attack or immediately meet with hostility, as the fleet and border guards met. the losses would have been great but less in the first months, which means that later the development could have gone according to a different scenario. but what was not returned, but to learn the lessons would not be bad. and if the military then took into account all this, but our man in the street lives under the slogan - to endure! do not respond to provocations! let them choke, blast, kill, if only not my house, if only there was no war

[your1970]

Quote: vl903

either attack or immediately meet with hostility, as the fleet and border guards met.

AND? How long did the border guards last for 2 days? How long was the staffing of the Red Army - for a little over 2 months and that's it?
In your version - they would run out two or even three times faster - the Wehrmacht would be on the defensive !!!!

Everywhere you look - some commanders of the districts, at least, generalissimos ...

[vl903]

the border guards and the regular army have worked for 200 percent. however, since Germany deployed its troops not to defense, but to throw, a preemptive strike could lead, if not to defeat, then to a war on an equal footing. Given the larger mob resource of the USSR, Germany would not have had a chance without the help of the United States and England and Japan. It is true that Japan was tied to the war with the United States only in December. But before that, on KhalkhinGol and Khasan, the titties did not crumple and Japan did not show any desire to help Germany. but all if only if only, but the experience of Khalkhin-gol should tell us something?

[VOEVODA]

Damage the chassis with a "mine of the Second World War", tow it to Sevastopol, and then follow the scheme of the Iranian comrades

[Barberry25]

and now examples in the studio of "adequate reactions" ..

[vl903]

Quote: Barberry25

and now examples in the studio of "adequate reactions" ..

please first give examples of how Americans or Angles in such situations "boobs crumple"

[Barberry25]

not not not ... if you think the actions are inadequate ... give examples of adequate actions against the destroyer

[vl903]

1. Do you think if the destroyer we need legs to the top?
2. you don't want to broaden your horizons and google border incidents?
3.Do you consider it normal for an enemy destroyer to pass by our beaches with a loaded weapon and a finger at the descent?
4. Do you want to convince me that the enemy fled and in half a year will not do the same again or even more impudently? - please convince me, I myself want

[Barberry25]

those. There is no answer, just a Jewish approach, to answer questions to the question? Oh yes .. it is necessary to throw ancient depth charges ... so the answer will be, who there we have destroyers scaring "adequately"?

[vl903]

Quote: Barberry25

those. There is no answer, just a Jewish approach, to answer questions to the question? Oh yes .. it is necessary to throw ancient depth charges ... so the answer will be, who there we have destroyers scaring "adequately"?

so far from you only questions and not one well-grounded answer. By the way, the Jews in such situations behave in an exemplary manner. they are people not of words but of money and deeds.

[Barberry25]

and when the Jews there stopped the destroyer without consequences?

[vl903]

and when they were afraid of the consequences?

[Barberry25]

So examples will be or will we pull the ox by the tail?

[vl903]

examples from me will not be for you until you substantiate your position and give examples of similar toothlessness on the part of the USA and England

[Barberry25]

I thought so - the drain was counted

[vl903]

like

[ufpb]

Brita are losing their weight in the World completely. The EU is ruled by the Germans and the French. The war between the heavyweights (China, Russia and the United States) suits them perfectly. Stir up the water and fish. The USA succeeded in the two World Wars, and why should they try it this way?

[fruc]

RF recognized Malvinas (Falkland) Islands for Great Britain? If it is recognized, then this is not a far-sighted policy. If not, you can send to the Atlantic along a similar route, entering the territory. water survey vessel, accompanied by a Russian warship and train the British to respond. How will they cope there or not?

[YOUR]

4 FAB 250 dropped NOT RANDOMLY on the course completed the turn acceleration faster.

[Achilles]

At the same time, Britain refused to admit that the Russian Coast Guard ship opened warning fire and that the Su-24M was bombing along the course of the HMS Defender.

Of course they refused, because the pilots were world-famous agents

[vl903]

Quote: YOUR

4 FAB 250 dropped NOT RANDOMLY on the course completed the turn acceleration faster.

this passage is for Russian ladies, unfortunately. Angles did not lift an eyebrow

[YOUR]

Tell me what they led

[vl903]

nothing. fully completed their task. showed that they do not recognize our borders. for historically the border is only what the cannons of your frigate protect. and no more. only those boundaries are recognized, the violation of which is expensive and painful

[YOUR]

Based on what did you make this conclusion?

[vl903]

based on the history of naval and land wars. (I’m not a historian right away, I’m a sofa expert) just don’t talk about international law (or what the Angles or our hats mean by it)

[YOUR]

Those. knowing neither the tasks facing the crew of the ship, nor about the events about which you know only from short media reports, only based on the history of wars, and here they are not clear, especially since you yourself admit that you know history too much, you concluded that the Angles are theirs They completed the task and did not pay any attention to the fire and bombs ..
But you know about something I agree with you. Here you don't need a great mind to define the task. Provoke and see the reaction. They provoked, looked. The reaction is quite tough. They immediately turned around and left.

[vl903]

Well, if it's easier for your psyche to hide your head in the sand, do so. The destroyer didn't even turn. as it was a year ago. as promised by England it will always be. (until it actually becomes too expensive and painful for them)

[YOUR]

How do you know that "he didn't even turn."
And how far I went 10 - 15 - 20 ..... km, walked along the coast.

[vl903]

on those maps that are in the tyrnet, it is clear that the English passed approximately in a straight line, as if cutting off the protruding semicircle of the border. that is, they showed they walk without going around our borders. video from us that the English did not like something and he "respected" our border so far, unfortunately.

[Barberry25]

Well, what you can see, you know better, but in fact he wanted to go much further north and closer to the coast, but he began to maneuver and eventually went south ..

[vl903]

in fact, apart from intelligence, of course, he wanted to dunk us. what would make a propaganda effect at home, in the Ukrainian province occupied by amers and in Russia. Until they succeeded, there is no effective video of the bombs and the destroyer's lapel. But our Ministry of Defense, unlike you, made conclusions. The next call will probably, as usual, be near Vladivostok amer. They are already going to meet him with NURS. It will be effective and safe. And clearly

[Barberry25]

well, do not dip yourself into the toilet and you will be happy ... and given that the British in fact only contradict themselves, and ours confirmed their words, then ours did everything right, although the "topvar's experts" are already yelling that it was necessary to "drown, capture or throw networks "...

[vl903]

Quote: Barberry25

well, do not dip yourself into the toilet and you will be happy ... and given that the British in fact only contradict themselves, and ours confirmed their words, then ours did everything right, although the "topvar's experts" are already yelling that it was necessary to "drown, capture or throw networks "...

than ours confirmed?

[Barberry25]

They showed it a long time ago, and ours showed that they are ready to defend Crimea with the help of force .. so the maximum that the British can now is to cheer up and crow that they are the coolest, although in fact they screwed up.

[vl903]

Quote: Barberry25

They showed it a long time ago, and ours showed that they are ready to defend Crimea with the help of force .. so the maximum that the British can now is to cheer up and crow that they are the coolest, although in fact they screwed up.

Of course, from the angles this is pure cocksucking, but it looks like we screwed up. I don’t understand, there are no high-speed boats with depth charges left in Sevastopol? would have thrown it under his nose, would not turn it away, the bottom would bend. safe and expensive! Or are there no such boats now, in principle, are they outdated?

[Barberry25]

those. throw off 4 250 kg of ingots at the rate - not comme il faut, but throwing hundreds ... it's cool)

[vl903]

please expand the answer. I suggested throwing depth charges in front of your nose, which are both safe and the body is bent and on the video you can poke the angels with your nose

[Barberry25]

it’s already your IMHO gone ... ofabs are quite effective and indicative than perversions in the form: go to the warehouse, take old bombs, load and drop them in front of the destroyer ... and all this must be done in 20 minutes ...

[vl903]

near Crimea and Vladivostok, the United States and their mongrels dispute the border at least once every six months, there is time to prepare for the next time. OFAB 250kg with a fragment of an allegedly connected tank in the side over 25 meters was destroyed during the Second World War. therefore, if ours threw them far away and the video is nowhere to be found. Vaughn now our VKS recommend to themselves NURSs next time to shoot what would be clearly. The depth charge is relatively safe and will inflict moderate damage to the destroyer. a couple of times to do and the angles will say, repairs will be expensive.

[Barberry25]

thanks, laughed ...

[vl903]

Quote: Barberry25

thanks, laughed ...

please

[Thompson]

I'm too lazy to tell you an eyebrow.
The Angles put the ship on alert for what purpose?
Did the crew also put on combat uniforms for the defile?
However, they immediately turned, gave a dyro, and were even afraid to fart in response.
Oh yeah ... but now they yapping like mongrels

[vl903]

Quote: Thompson

I'm too lazy to tell you an eyebrow.
The Angles put the ship on alert for what purpose?
Did the crew also put on combat uniforms for the defile?
However, they immediately turned, gave a dyro, and were even afraid to fart in response.
Oh yeah ... but now they yapping like mongrels

there is a video where they turned away? what they went through with a loaded weapon and ready to open fire and it cost them nothing only adds shame to us. so we are in the position of mongrels. I don’t understand why not break off diplomatic relations with England now? except for our billionaires and their children, no one cares about England or not, am I not right?

[Thompson]

not right. And even the disadvantages are not mine.
... There is a video where they turned away. The wake is very visible. But you don't need it.
... And what's the shame? They are the same warriors as ours. do not take off their panties.
... The mongrels only bark, and ours also drove them away.
...Not right. For this there is diplomatic relations, so that later these problems can be resolved.
Wrong ... in everything

[vl903]

believe me, if I'm wrong, I'll just be glad. if turned off, the tracker would have a 90 degree flap. if we scared them, they won't come again. while Crimea and Vladivostok come on average once every six months. There is no beautiful video either. There is no damage or casualties either. we have no complaints about the military. they follow instructions from Moscow. to English, too. they were given the task of provocation, they understood what they were risking, but they completed the task. and they listen to diplomats only when they are tired of fighting. while the Angles and Americans do not listen to diplomats ... I wish I was not right, in fact ...

[Thompson]

What are you talking about 90 degrees? This is the Sea. And they're on a BIG ship. It's not a motorboat.
We walked along the border after breaking it. They just had to turn a little, which they did, and they came out of our waters! You don't have to be completely pessimistic or, even worse, urapatriot

[vl903]

it is in the sea that there is a general direction, a general course, a general course, and constant maneuvering due to various reasons. and so it is not visible that the English would change course. Moreover, if he wanted to show that he had taken our not contentment into consideration, he would have turned it 90 degrees. He also showed us that although he was waiting for a missile on board he would not turn off course and would prove Britain's ability to go wherever he wanted. In any case, if you are right, violations of our border will not be repeated in Crimea and Vladivostok during the year. If you repeat yourself, they wanted to chhat what you thought. For my part, I admit that I am wrong if there are no violations

[Thompson]

Quote: vl903

For my part, I admit that I am wrong if there are no violations

Like a man! Agreed!

[sanja.grw]

It must have been something like this

[Mylenef]

It is better to go to supersonic not with a fighter, but with a White Swan, so it will be more intelligible

[vl903]

white swans we have only seems to be about 30 pieces. they are needed for total war. their flight is very expensive and they themselves are literally a piece of the account. swan = approximately an aircraft carrier. it hurts a lot of honor even for a destroyer to chase a swan for her sake. a fighter is enough. in addition, going over the top of the sound is equivalent to shooting. then the English would try to shoot down our plane. at least the fighter has a chance to dodge.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Well, since the BBSpomoyka journalist "accidentally" was on board, it was clearly a provocation.

You are right, in our fleet all the talkers are called "Air Force" first, second .... tenth.
Where this audience is - there is nonsense.

[Finches]

The British write everything correctly, it was necessary to plant a torpedo in the side ... To finally return the power of the British fleet for a single tub!

[prior]

Gentlemen.
You were warned that the Russian bear will not like rudeness.
You can't do it in our taiga.
Teddy bear he is clumsy only for the time being.
Be glad he just growled at your insolent trick.
And I could have ..........
Apparently without coffins, words are empty words for you. In vain.

[hagen]

Quote: Finches

it was necessary to plant a torpedo in the side ...

Probably a bit early. But I think it's high time to develop and install REP equipment on watchdogs so that the violator's radio-electronic equipment can be irrevocably burned out. I am not an electronics engineer, but I think that this is possible and necessary.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Finches

, it was necessary to plant a torpedo in the side ...

Greetings, Eugene
necessary.

you can also install mine banks (controlled incl.) in that area (in their waters you can do anything) and let them try to pass.

It's probably time!

[Finches]

Greetings! And go to the Falklands, walking along the coast, and then declare that everything was done correctly in the territorial waters of Argentina!

[lucul]

And go to the Falklands, walking along the coast, and then declare that everything was done correctly in the territorial waters of Argentina!

It is necessary to take Gibraltar from them through Spain.

[lucul]

The British write everything correctly, it was necessary to plant a torpedo into the side ...

I support - 100% would have rubbed off.

[aszzz888]

Chief of the Redskins (Nazarius)
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Well, since the BBSpomoyka journalist "accidentally" was on board, it was clearly a provocation.

And what were the doubts?

[Tank jacket]

One hundred percent of the British are great for taking the journalist with them on board the destroyer.

- The Russians believe that these are their territorial waters and therefore can behave belligerent. - says the young assistant commander.
“They may think that you are acting belligerent in these waters. - answers the bibisical murzilka.
- If you cross the borderline, isle bee fire. If u dont change ze cors, isle bee fire. Do you read mi? Ovar. - the walkie-talkie informs them with a characteristic accent.

And from the voice it is clear that the interlocutor on the other side on the combat rocket spun the coordination of tenses, cases and endings in English.

[smart ass]

Formally, there was no violation

[lucul]

Formally, there was no violation

Borders may not be recognized until then - until you defend your borders. As you begin to destroy everything that has gone beyond OUR border, so everyone immediately recognizes your borders.

[smart ass]

Destroyed? Happened?

[lucul]

Destroyed? Happened?

Let it come closer - 3 km is nothing, it can always be attributed to a malfunction of the navigation equipment.

[smart ass]

Or did you just set fire to your sofa))

[Real Pilot]

HMS "Defender" turned into HMS "Provocateur"

That is how it was!

With blackjack and BBC reporters ... They went boldly and unceremoniously, and then hurriedly retreated.
The fact of the use of weapons was attributed to exercises, which is generally stupid and strange - why, if these are previously announced artillery exercises, even swim into the firing zone?

[yehat2]

Babchenko, who fled to Ukraine, says that this destroyer could have wiped out Sevastopol and this is close to the truth. In St. Petersburg there is Aurora, who was also able to very quickly turn most of the city into the Moon.
To whom it is funny, I want to remind you that this is not a joke. Even 1 ship is capable of doing a lot of troubles.
Let me give you another example - the small battleship Väinämäinen and his partner Ilmarinen. They managed to do a lot of harm.
I mean, the ship is not a rubber duck, but a serious threat.

[provergatel]

This is an air defense destroyer !!!

He has almost nothing stupid to shoot at ground and surface targets.

There is a 114-mm cannon, a pair of Falanx 20-mm direct missile defense rapid-fire guns, and a pair of Oerlikon 30-mm anti-aircraft guns. There are also missile launchers and two quadruple harpoon launchers (all of which have long been rotten with age and are almost completely decommissioned, and new ones are not being purchased, since the British are expecting a new wunderwaffe from the developers, which they are desperate to roll out by 2025; there was one ship's set of "Harpoons", with an extended period, which was passed from ship to ship, like a passing banner, just for campaigns where they might be needed, and the jester knows if that set is still alive).

And what do you think this piece of piece will wreak havoc on? You are a destroyer, imprisoned under the cover of an aircraft carrier order from air threats, with battleships capable of firing shells with a car weight, do not equal!

[yehat2]

Quote: oprovergatel

He has almost nothing stupid to shoot at ground and surface targets.

The 252mm projectile is not the size of a car, but just the size of a tactical missile.
And as for the defender's weapons - hell knows what he actually has. They could have shoved something else instead of missiles.

[provergatel]

Quote: yehat2

The 252mm projectile is not the size of a car, but just the size of a tactical missile.

I wrote about the weight of the projectile, not about the size.

Quote: yehat2

They could have shoved something else instead of missiles.

Could not. There are UVP SYLVER A-50 (5 m long) SAM PAAMS. Only missiles can fit into it. There is also the A-70 version (7 m long), which Axes and promising SKALPs can fit in (this is the same uber-wunderwaffe, the Javrop analogue of the Ax, due to the expectation of which the Naglov HranadFleet was left without " Harpoons "), but there is no such modification on the Defender. And, as far as I know, there is no missile defense targeting system for ground targets either. Only the Sampson radar, sharpened for air defense / missile defense.

So, pure air defense. Well, maybe if they got the last not completely rotten set of "Harpoons" in this exit on the general fleet lottery, then another 8 shots at surface targets. True, the subsonic "Harpoon" is not a big problem for a modern ship missile defense system.

[yehat2]

Quote: oprovergatel

subsonic "Harpoon" for modern ship missile defense is not a big problem.

the harpoon itself is really not a big problem. The problem is the number of launchers in NATO fleets. Now you won't surprise anyone with a 40 rocket salvo, and "not a problem" has a strength of about ten. And if it really became a little easier to shoot down 2-3-4 even 7 subsonic ones in comparison with the Soviet fleet 40 years ago, then we are still not ready to solve the problem of quantity adequately. We do not have URO destroyers similar to the Burkes, nor mass fire systems like the iron dome. A typical brigade for protecting the s-400 object, which our warriors really hope for, has only 2-5 launchers of 3 (or 4 tubes for each. Approximately for response - only 15 missiles, you can reload them, but you are unlikely to have time to shoot more time.
Even now, the standard is 2 missiles per target. Those. potentially you will proudly shoot down 7 harpoons. Even the defender, which, as you say, is sharpened for air defense, PU harpoons 8, i.e. it has the potential to break through the defenses of our modern air defense brigade.
I say all this so that you do not throw rash statements about "no problem".
Unfortunately, we have a lot of problems, because the military-industrial complex has been drying up and dormant for more than 20 years, and NATO continued its development.

[provergatel]

Firstly. It is far from the fact that in the "Harpoon" launcher the "Defender" has something capable of flying out of the parahet hull bypass. The situation with anti-ship missiles in the British Navy is now very bad.

Secondly. With what fright subsonic "Harpoons" (so, this is an anti-ship missile system, sharpened to destroy ships) someone will shoot down the S-400 (so this is a land air defense system)? To counter subsonic missiles, we have a huge number of air defense systems, including rapid-fire small-caliber artillery, which, just on warships, is sharpened to counter subsonic anti-ship missiles.

Quote: yehat2

We have no URO destroyers similar to Burke

We have RTOs "Karakurt" and "Buyany".

Quote: yehat2

A typical brigade to protect the s-400 object, which our soldiers really hope for, has only 2-5 launchers of 3 each (or 4 tubes for each. Approximately for response - only 15 missiles

Where did you get this heresy?

"The main tactical formation of anti-aircraft missile forces of the Aerospace Forces is a brigade, which consists of several military units and subunits. Depending on the objects under cover, the brigade is equipped with 2-5 air defense missile systems (anti-aircraft missile regiments!) And support units.

Simple calculations make it possible to determine the firepower of the S-400 regiment, i.e. how many launchers and missiles it will be. A deployed regiment consists of 2-4 divisions, each of which is armed with 8 to 12 launchers. The installation is equipped with four long-range missiles. In total, the regiment's armament can consist of 16 to 48 launchers, equipped with longer-range missiles, in the amount of 64 to 192 units. (and this is only one air defense system!) ".

In addition, on-site air defense / missile defense is built on the principle of separation. There is not a S-400 regiment standing in an open field! And included in the object air defense / missile defense are many different air defense systems of different classes and ranges, united into a single radar space, dispersed around the object so as to overlap each other's sectors (the principle is that two neighboring subunits cover the firing sector of a subunit located between them, on the case of its reloading) and located in prepared positions.

Quote: yehat2

Unfortunately, we have a lot of problems, because the military-industrial complex has been drying up and dormant for more than 20 years, and NATO continued its development.

Have you spent the last 20 years in suspended animation and were you awakened only a week ago?

[yehat2]

Quote: oprovergatel

including rapid-fire small-caliber artillery, which, just on warships, and sharpened

Stop lying. There are statistics on the use of such funds. Yes, in theory they can hit the target and in practice this happened, but with what probability?
I could go over other theses, but I will only say about one thing.
We cannot tightly defend each object with static parts - the number of launchers is banally limited by economic capabilities. And mobile installations of attack missiles can be concentrated whenever and wherever it is convenient, so the numerical superiority will almost always be on the side of the striker. It's not even tactics, but economics.
Look at Israel and its iron dome. The Israelis made a good system, but even it was choked by an avalanche of homemade products, and this despite the fact that they did not touch 70% of the missiles flying by.
Before you arrogantly talk about suspended animation and simple calculations, you should think a little. I brought the S-400 because it is the most advanced system that has been adapted for the fleet and is not installed on every ship.
And on RTOs, frankly, the air defense is very weak. It will be a great success if 1 MRK knocks down 1-2 missiles from a rocket swarm. They rely much more on electronic warfare and other tricks. You should be ashamed of your splurge.

[933454818]

There were two journalists there (BBC and Daily Mirror), apparently just in case.

[yfast]

on the eve of the British Navy destroyer Defender violated the Russian maritime borders in the Sevastopol region.

Boris was forgotten in the international arena. Lit up.

[rotmistr60]

HMS "Defender" (translation of the name of the British ship - approx. "VO") was turned into HMS "Provocateur" and forced to violate the Russian border. Not an ordinary transit, is it?

The Russian embassy has correctly played the name of the ship to the incident. Indeed, the "defender" is not clear why he instantly became a provocateur by violating the Russian border and at the same time naturally including "d.urak". Amused English commentary

... Putin got scared ...

Preventively using the weapons of a border boat and a Su-24 bomb? The British probably really wanted their ship to be sunk by the insidious Russians. And then they would ... Better ask your team how they felt when 4 bombs exploded along the course.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: rotmistr60

Better ask your team how they felt when 4 bombs exploded along the course.

In response to this question, the acoustician "Zashchitnichka" will answer: Shta? Speak louder, or better write.

[Fungus]

If this destroyer violates the border for the second time, make a hole in it for a fancy.

[D16]

make a hole in it to the edreni give a damn

Not. It is necessary for the MCHPV to build a patrol boat with a reinforced ice hull and a short-term speed of 30+ knots. I understand that each other's Wishlist are mutually exclusive, but we must strive. One heap is enough to stop such provocations once and for all. Put a pair of 630x on it to work on the body at close range if that. And he will not do anything from his high side.

[knn54]

The first and foremost sin, the root of ALL sins, is Pride.
PS Return the Falklands to Argentina!

[From Tomsk]

Judging by the UK report, there was nothing. If so, it was necessary to drown the trough, and then report that he ran into a bottom mine, placed during the Second World War.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Think wrong, comrade! Mina WWII is a reality of some kind ... Now in the west there is a new, old trend - UFOs! Everyone is told to believe in him!

[yehat2]

why lie? It was fair to say that from the very beginning the ship's behavior was inadequate and therefore its self-detonation did not surprise anyone.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Why lie? UFOs exist - recognized at a high (true American) level!

[Pravodel]

In Britain, they claim that "the situation was provoked by the Russian side", and "the British ship complied with international norms."

Who would doubt that. Every time the British lion attacks a country or begins to kill the natives, it does so only to protect democracy, protect the people from the barbaric regime and educate the people themselves. Moreover, the British lion always destroys peoples in compliance with all international norms. So it was in India, where the British shot the sepoys from cannons, in South Africa during the Boer War, in Russia during the Russo-Turkish wars. Only now the British have forgotten that Russia is not a native state and not their colony, and that evidence of this from the 19th century. rest on Balaklava. Let them visit Crimea and refresh their own memory as R. Churchill once did during the Yalta conference. Maybe then there will be less desire to send warships into our waters, into the territorial waters of Russia.
PS
During the Russian-Turkish wars, the British and French also considered the Crimea as the territory of Turkey ..

[atalef]

Quote: The Truth

Who would doubt that. Every time the British lion attacks a country or begins to kill the natives, it does so only to protect democracy, protect the people from the barbaric regime and educate the people themselves

Well, actually at that time everyone had colonies. but if you face the truth - the only empire that left behind a developed infrastructure. law and order is the British empire - everyone else was just plundering their territories.

[Professor]

Quote: atalef

Well, actually at that time everyone had colonies. but if you face the truth - the only empire that left behind a developed infrastructure. law and order is the British empire - everyone else was just plundering their territories.

They just understood that it is easier to plunder when the natives are trained in your language and the infrastructure is developed, including railways and ports.

[atalef]

Quote: professor

Quote: atalef

Well, actually at that time everyone had colonies. but if you face the truth - the only empire that left behind a developed infrastructure. law and order is the British empire - everyone else was just plundering their territories.

They just understood that it is easier to plunder when the natives are trained in your language and the infrastructure is developed, including railways and ports.

this is understandable, but after they left - the countries belonging to the colonies of Great Britain are strikingly different from the countries belonging to the colonies of the same Belgium. Holland or France.

[Far B]

Are they different? You are probably talking about Zimbabwe. Or Botswana? Oh, not - about Burma!
Order in the former British colonies exists only where the British managed to ensure the predominance of the white population: Australia, New Zealand, Canada. And in the same India and Pakistan there is about the same order as in the former Dutch Indonesia or French Indochina. Something like this.

[yehat2]

I will only add that Britain plundered in the same way as others and even set standards like concentration camps. The difference was that she owned very rich colonies and in order to earn money, it was not always necessary to squeeze out literally everything, it was enough just to methodically rob. But I want to draw your attention to the opium wars in China, which were mainly waged by Britain. Nobody could come up with such a policy of sophisticated genocide.

[Revolver]

Quote: Dalny V

Order in the former British colonies exists only where the British managed to ensure the predominance of the white population: Australia, New Zealand, Canada.

Not to mention the fact that Her Majesty Elizabeth II is still the head of state in these countries. I had to hold Canadian money in my hands, and Her Majesty's profile was minted on it.
Unlike Burma and any other Zimbabwe and India with Pakistan.

[mikh-korsakov]

Michael! Well, about Botswana - it's you in vain. Given the low density of the Zulu, it is one of the richest countries in Africa thanks to the development of natural resources. Otherwise, I agree. I was on a business trip in India - it is impossible to leave the hotel so as not to get into the ring of beggars offering rickshaw services. And it is within walking distance from Rajpath. And as during the parade, the elephant began to smack the gag - everyone saw it.

[yehat2]

Well, tourists in many countries are perceived as cash cows.

[mikh-korsakov]

I was not a tourist there, but spoke at a conference - but in Europe no one bothered.

[yehat2]

for them you are a real vigorous cash tourist

[Revolver]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

And how during the parade the elephant began to smack the gag - everyone saw it.

Poor gag ...

[BARKAS]

Come on, the British even have a crown of stolen stones.

[tlauicol]

The burden of the whites

[Revolver]

Quote: atalef

the only empire that left behind a developed infrastructure. law and order is the british empire

But wherever the Britons left, there is a complete mess and there is no peace. Africa, India-Pakistan, Southeast Asia, the Middle East (however, on the spot it is much better for you )
The only place where this did not happen is America, and that is only because the Britons did not leave on their own, but they were kicked out with wicked rags.

[yehat2]

Quote: Nagan

this is America, and that is only because the Britons did not leave on their own, but they were kicked out with rags

the essence of the US War of Independence is not secession from England, but only a reduction in predatory demands. The United States was and remains the dominion of Great Britain. In the ww2 process, Great Britain itself was made small Britain, but the United States remained the heir to the predatory behavior of Great Britain and still a significant part of the US elite goes to study on the island of impudent people.

[Wolf]

And the capitalists came up with warm food for workers at work, because they lost that the hard worker works better then.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

The Boers do not know that! They tested the concentration camp and the scorched earth tactics!

[Free wind]

So the sepoys happily served with the British. The British and Americans defend their interests. I would love to destroy a couple of nations. without observance of any norms, a pair of hydrogen bombs.

[tihonmarine]

At the same time, as already reported by Voennoye Obozreniye, in London, commenting on the situation, they said that the warship was making "a peaceful transition through the territorial waters of Ukraine in full compliance with international law."

Everything is clear as "god's day", the island daughter of the mongrel was forced to play the role of a "decoy duck". It seems a kingdom, but the same as Nigeria with its 50 kings, but in life now it is not "the queen of the seas and oceans" (remember "rule Britain, rule the seas"), but that was a long time ago and our grandfathers do not remember this. And now the "Big Master" said to the little kingdom "Well, you are a kingdom, Tuzik FAS!"
And Tuzik barked "There will be fas, SIR!"

[usr01]

So what to do with such? You will answer - it is not far from the war, you will not answer - they consider it "tedious" ...
And there are more and more provocations, but there will be even more ...

[Alexander Seklitsky]

answer "half a bump" To detonate a bomb next to their side is heavier. To stun the slegonets.

[mark1]

Quote: usr01

So what to do with such?

To do with them everything that should and come what may - we already let them to the center of Russia at a distance of spitting, so the war is just a postponed event (you are not for an "alternative" solution in the style of Katz and Gorbachev?)

[Sasha from Uralmash]

If the bully is not kicked in the mordas at once, from impunity he will then spit in the face with pleasure!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

All right, praise be to Allah, we figured it out. There was no shooting, no incident. The Britons swam, the Russians studied, the Ukrainians rode to the shore. All right. The topic is closed.

[Moonsund]

The Turks shoot down the plane, no war happened, only more tourists went. Nobody paid. It is necessary to answer adequately, for some reason everyone starts yelling: do you want to start a war? On the proposal to fire a volley at the target. Is Johnson-Pizhonson not afraid to start a war? It can be seen that there is absolutely no, so who has more will? I mean that the situation will repeat itself, there was no need to heat, it was necessary to make holes for the crew to come to their senses.

[Professor]

At the United Kingdom Department of Defense, commenting on the evidence eyewitnesses that there was both warning shooting and bombing,

Well, let's already see the video release of the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense. Tired of blah blah blah.

[tlauicol]

No shooting is visible on the MO video release.
The British say they heard the teachings, but then it turns out that they were going through a closed area.
Both sides muddy the waters

[Professor]

Quote: Tlauicol

No shooting is visible on the MO video release.
The British say they heard the teachings, but then it turns out that they were going through a closed area.
Both sides muddy the waters

No, not both. One side accuses of violating the state border, declares warning shooting and bombing. She and bring the doc-va. The other side does not have to prove that something WAS NOT.

[tlauicol]

The other side does not recognize the Russian terrorists, therefore it recognizes that the Black Sea Fleet is firing in the Ukrainian terrorists. And passes by, the guarantor of democracy. They themselves do not seem to know which version to choose: Mida Gr Br or the journalist Bibisi from the ship. And he announced the shooting and other persons from the destroyer too

[Professor]

Not only the other side, but the whole world, with the exception of a few rogue countries, does not recognize these waters as Russian, but this does not make any difference to the alleged incident. The Russian side brings charges of violating the state border, declares warning shooting and bombing. She and bring the doc-va.
For example, in the case of Marvi Marmara, the IDF press service published a recording of negotiations with the captain of the steamer, a video of the approach to the steamer and a ton of video with shooting and capture. Where are similar materials from the RF Ministry of Defense?

They also explained the shots in the British report. Now it is the turn of the RF Ministry of Defense evidence.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 08: 38
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Not only the other side, but the whole world, with the exception of a few rogue countries, does not recognize these waters as Russian,

we wanted to write on them! They poke their attention further - they will find out how ALL electronics are smoking and burning (this is at best ), and at worst, the last small-shavens on the boat may have time to see how their pelvis breaks in several places. And as the beaten klitschko used to say many times over the head: "not only everyone can look into tomorrow"

[Okolotochny]

but the whole world, with the exception of a few rogue countries, does not recognize these waters as Russian

Spit. But this: "The UN by a majority of votes condemned the revision of the status of Jerusalem." How many countries have recognized it as the capital of Israel?

[Professor]

Quote: Okolotochny

How many countries have recognized it as the capital of Israel?

The RF admitted that the rest is not important. Is not it?

[Okolotochny]

RF admitted

Has the UN recognized it or not?
USA, Guatemala, who else? Do most of the UN countries with the exception of a few recognize it or not?

[Professor]

Quote: Okolotochny

Has the UN recognized it or not?

Sure. However, what does the UN do for us if the Russian Federation has recognized it?

Quote: Okolotochny

USA, Guatemala, who else? Do most of the UN countries with the exception of a few recognize it or not?

RF recognized

Quote: sheet

Western (!) Jerusalem. Is not it?

I somehow missed that Jerusalem is divided by a wall. I was there 100 times and did not notice the wall. Have you seen a wall or a fence dividing Jerusalem into west and east?

[El Chuvachino]

Quote: professor

RF recognized

So be guided by the opinion of the Russian Federation regarding Crimea

[sheet]

Quote: professor

The RF admitted that the rest is not important. Is not it?

Western (!) Jerusalem. Is not it?

[Revolver]

Quote: professor

The RF admitted that the rest is not important.

Actually, the recognition by the US of the kagbe is even more important.

[Professor]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: professor

The RF admitted that the rest is not important.

Actually, the recognition by the US of the kagbe is even more important.

Come on, come on. It is clear even to a child that the RF is the center of the Universe.

[Okolotochny]

Professor, you are balabol, the Russian Federation has published footage of the opening of fire by a border ship of the Russian Federation.

[Professor]

Quote: Okolotochny

Professor, you are balabol, the Russian Federation has published footage of the opening of fire by a border ship of the Russian Federation.

Duc show us the video once you are not balabol.

[Revolver]

And also the homeland of elephants.

[Okolotochny]

Yes, do not care about the recognition of the United States, with what joy "as it were more important?" Are they exceptional? So what are you on the Russian resource, and not on the "most important"? How did you get it, the sausage bearers?

[Revolver]

Quote: Okolotochny

Exceptional such

Are you jealous? Very well, keep envious.

Quote: Okolotochny

sausage hangers

Believe it or not, we finally don't buy sausage, from the word "absolutely", and Coca-Cola too. And at McDonald's I ate only 2 times, the first one and the last one. And not because sausage is expensive, but because it is not the most healthy food, and treatment here is expensive and not always successful. And in general, as Churchill once said in his hearts, "Whoever loves sausage and respects the laws should not see how they are made." True, he was referring to the House of Commons.

[provergatel]

This is when the Russian Federation recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

Don’t give a reference?

You are completely lying there!

[Professor]

Quote: oprovergatel

This is when the Russian Federation recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

Don’t give a reference?

You are completely lying there!

https://www.mid.ru/ru/press_service/spokesman/official_statement/-/asset_publisher/t2GCdmD8RNIr/content/id/2717182
I accept your apologies.

[provergatel]

Well, that's when the state institutions and authorities of the Palestinian state will be located in East Jerusalem, then come

These two points I work ONLY in conjunction with each other. Not individually.

[Professor]

Quote: oprovergatel

Well, that's when the state institutions and authorities of the Palestinian state will be located in East Jerusalem, then come

These two points I work ONLY in conjunction with each other. Not individually.

Where is East Jerusalem? East of the great Jewish Jordan River? Jerusalem is one and cannot be divided. In the meantime, the Russian Federation is considering "western" Jerusalem as Israeli. This is where your ambassador goes to present his credentials to our president.

I accept your apologies.

[aszzz888]

Roundabout (Alexey)
Today, 09: 01

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but the whole world, with the exception of a few rogue countries, does not recognize these waters as Russian

Spit. But this: "The UN by a majority of votes condemned the revision of the status of Jerusalem." How many countries have recognized it as the capital of Israel?

Shut up immediately! Excited here they look ... give them proof. In his own Israel, let him demand who, and to whom presents the docks. When Palestine is razed to the ground, the Jews do not need "proof", they know everything more than anyone else!

[Revolver]

Quote: aszzz888

When Palestine is razed to the ground

Where is it? If you are talking about the former Roman province, then it was razed to the ground by the Arab invaders in the year 637 AD, and since then there has been no such independent national-territorial unit, except for the mandated British territory in the interwar period.

[aszzz888]

Nagant (Revolver of the Nagant system of the sample of 1895)
24 June 2021 11: 06

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Quote: aszzz888
When Palestine is razed to the ground

And where is it?

for the gifted)) who do not get out of the tank -

State of Palestine - Wikipediahttps: //ru.wikipedia.org ›wiki› State_Palest ...
State of Palestine (Arabic: دولة فلسطين, English State of Palestine) - de jure independent partially recognized state in the Middle East,...

[tlauicol]

By the way, in the report from the destroyer you can hear shots and comments on this matter.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Where are the shots? In the cabins of the mate captains?

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 07: 33
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Quote: Tlauicol
No shooting is visible on the MO video release.
The British say they heard the teachings, but then it turns out that they were going through a closed area.
Both sides muddy the waters

No, not both. One side accuses of violating the state border, declares warning shooting and bombing. She and bring the doc-va. The other side does not have to prove that something WAS NOT.

What kind of legal procedure is this? Hebrew? Tady yes!

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 07: 18
NEW .. Well, let's see the video release of the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense. Tired of blah blah blah.

To whom, to you? If you don't like it, don't read it !!! It's not for you to prove what was and what was not.

[lucul]

Well, let's already see the video release of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Who walks with trump cards right away? ))))
They will show everything, in due time)))

[Professor]

Quote: lucul

Well, let's already see the video release of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Who walks with trump cards right away? ))))
They will show everything, in due time)))

Is it the first time that they merge?

[lucul]

Is it the first time that they merge?

Israelis? I do not argue .

[Professor]

Quote: lucul

Is it the first time that they merge?

Israelis? I do not argue .

No, not once.



We are waiting for video materials from the RF Ministry of Defense.

[lucul]

No, not once.

Just a drop in the sea of ​​lies.

[Professor]

Quote: lucul

No, not once.

Just a drop in the sea of ​​lies.

For example?

[Tank jacket]

Interestingly, USNI News reported tampering with the location of the British destroyer HMS Defender and the Dutch frigate HNLMS Evertsen. According to the online service AIS MarineTraffic, the ships were heading towards Sevastopol, but the webcams of the port of Odessa recorded their presence at the pier. During the incident, the NATO ships were no longer on the cameras of the port. Coincidence?

"In addition to the" journalists "of SkyNews, similar statements were made ironically by the British Ministry of Defense itself - allegedly, Russian ships simply conducted planned exercises, and if they fired somewhere, somewhere far away and untrue.

However, bad luck, but at the time of the incident, BBC journalist Jonathan Beale was present on board the HMS Defender. In his report, he confirmed that he had heard warnings from Russian ships about the need to change course under the threat of the use of weapons, and then the shooting itself.

In addition, the journalist refers to the words of the captain of the "Defender" about the discovery of more than 20 aircraft near the destroyer. Jonathan Beale suggests that this action by the UK was deliberate. "(C)

[Wedmak]

Jonathan Beale suggests that the UK action was deliberate.

I don't understand then who this Bill is playing for? If he speaks the truth, then he contradicts the statements of the ministry. If he was lying, then why? Strange rhetoric of officials and a journalist.

[Tank jacket]

Boris Johnson (the circles that nominated him) desperately need to meet with the GDP, they need a summit of the Russian Federation-Small Britain, so they are jumping out of their pants. But before the summit, you need to swim in your own fikaly (disavow the story with the Skripals and Litvinenko), they also cannot do this, so they arrange provocations.
Do not wash like this by skating ...
"The Spectator (UK): Biden and Putin Left Britain Overboard"
https://inosmi.ru/politic/20210621/249953885.html

[Tank jacket]

The situation with the British Navy destroyer Defender near Crimea is a planned provocation by the British. The specified ship is part of an aircraft carrier strike group (AUG), which left Portsmouth for the coast of China, where similar actions are planned. The diagram published back in April 2021 shows the plan for two ships from the AUG to enter the Black Sea. According to the Western classification, what happened in our waters fits the definition of "Freedom of Navigation Operations (FONOPs)", which is practiced near China.
Also, the presence of a BBC News journalist on board the destroyer Defender, whose screams about Russian aircraft have already spread on the Internet, also points to the non-random nature of the actions of the British. Curiously, the biography of reporter Jonathan Beale begins with a job as an assistant to a British parliamentarian. We are waiting for this citizen to come ashore and start a new information campaign against Russia.
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Perhaps we are witnessing a war between two groups in the United Kingdom, conditionally May and conditionally Johnson ...

[aszzz888]

Tank jacket (Ruslan)
Today, 08: 19
Perhaps we are witnessing a war between two groups in the United Kingdom, conditionally May and conditionally Johnson

Majee was rotten during her lifetime, when she tried to rule the Brits. There is another zakazuha, and striped ears are visible from afar.

[Tank jacket]

Maybe...
May is just the top of the group ... and so is Johnson.

[Tank jacket]

"In an old joke, as you know, it was recommended not to scratch Honduras for a quiet life. But they did not say what to do with England, but she somehow began to show extremely high activity. Here and Turkey and Azerbaijan (one involuntarily recalls the great interest of this country in Baku since the century before last, right up to the preparation of plans for a war with the USSR), there was a sudden desire to talk to Putin (although twice, with the lips of both Lavrov and Peskov, she answered “no” rather harshly), then there was a destroyer, which obviously went to the provocation ...
 
And the question arises, why? As always, there are objective reasons for this - the growing economic crisis and the collapse of the currency zones, but they clearly only exacerbate the effect of the main reason. About which I have also spoken many times, but there are certain nuances that I want to discuss. So, the main reason is the need, following the crisis, to get its own currency zone, which is directly subordinate to London. The economic situation only confirms the fact that it will definitely not be able to get out of the crisis on its own, at the expense of internal resources, as China, the USA, even, perhaps, Germany, England can do!
 
If ten years ago, when London launched the operation (which failed because of Trump) to unite the Arab world under itself, there were still illusions about an independent resource, today they are completely lost. Let us not forget, in addition, that if then London was part of the "Western" global project, then a couple of years ago, after Johnson came to power, the elite of the Judean project returned to power, which controlled the British Empire until 1936 (and which the frontman of the "Western" project Churchill successfully liquidated). In any case, today London has only one option, to destroy the European Union.
 
This can be done only economically. The covid quarantine almost worked (and in this sense, one can seriously suspect London in its organization; China is clearly dangerous, it needs open world markets, and the United States is useful as a "excuse" for the authorities from the global crisis, but not necessary), but not until end. If a new infection appears by the end of the summer, then the "hand of London" will be almost obvious, but there is one more circumstance: without the support of Russia, it will be almost impossible to destroy the EU.
 
The “green” revolution is lagging behind, due to the crisis, traditional sources of hydrocarbons will be more and more in demand. And Nord Stream 2 in this sense is a colossal source of support for EU stability. In addition, there are serious reasons to believe that Biden will not unequivocally support the disintegration of the EU, the threats of instability are too great. This is evidenced, in particular, by promises to seriously support the Kurds in Iraq with military equipment - this is obviously directed against Turkey's alliance with Britain. And this means that it is becoming too risky for England to launch Islamist militants across Western Europe - they can be given a hard hand.
 
And in this situation, when Merkel and Macron are going to invite Putin (with the threat of finally agreeing, in fact, against London), the attack of the cruiser in the waters of the Crimea may be the last test of how tough Moscow is. It turned out to be tough. But then it is necessary to make very serious proposals and it is possible that the ambassador (or, there, the attaché), who was summoned to our Foreign Ministry, will bring these proposals. And what will happen there ... In any case, it is already clear that the 30s are repeated here and it is Putin who will determine the future of the world in the coming decades. Whether someone likes it or not.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Wedmak

Jonathan Beale suggests that the UK action was deliberate.

I don't understand then who this Bill is playing for? If he speaks the truth, then he contradicts the statements of the ministry. If he was lying, then why? Strange rhetoric of officials and a journalist.

There is a video on the BBC. Just take a look.

[Avior]

Given that the plane was alone, where he saw 20 is a mystery.

[Tank jacket]

Fear has big eyes...
And then the radar sees farther than the eyes, don't you think?

[Tusv]

And say that there was a fire on the destroyer

[aszzz888]

Tusv (Vladimir)
Today, 07: 39

+5
And say that there was a fire on the destroyer

"That is not, so and boolean!" (from)

[usr01]

With tongue removed !!!
The issue must be resolved "in general", and entered into the Charter (of the Ship-Guard Service) !!!!
So that "Roly-platoon" (no offense to the ship commanders) knows HOW to act in case of a border violation! And he did not agree every time with the Kremlin !!! (otherwise it will be like a rustic cat, the cat sat down on Red Square) !!!
And with shit - well thought out! Did you want to dip us? Here you will get it yourself !!!

[Esaul]

And then tell the kids in Evpatoria - go take a dip in some water

[AshPoseidon]

The RF Ministry of Defense did everything right, according to the military doctrine. She showed her intentions with warning shots and bombing. The provocateur left. All right. Now, if the warning had not been properly taken, then they would have had to fire to kill.

[Egoza]

Quote: Ash Poseidon

Now, if the warning had not been properly taken, then they would have had to fire to kill.

Alas! I suppose that the "partners" do not stand on this, and fire to kill will still need to be fought.

[aszzz888]

Fidget (Elena)
Today, 07: 44

+5
Quote: Ash Poseidon
Now, if the warning had not been properly taken, then they would have had to fire to kill.

Alas! I suppose that the "partners" do not stand on this, and fire to kill will still need to be fought.

Yes! And this is where everything goes. the hyena will not back down until he gets it in full.

[your1970]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: Ash Poseidon

Now, if the warning had not been properly taken, then they would have had to fire to kill.

Alas! I suppose that the "partners" do not stand on this, and fire to kill will still need to be fought.

All so formidable, already smoke from the ears ... the USSR piled up as much as possible ... Even the USSR did not allow itself to bomb NATO warships at the rate

[Egoza]

Quote: your1970

Even the USSR did not allow itself to bomb NATO warships along the course

And what are they? Violated the borders of the USSR? Can you announce the dates when it was?

[your1970]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: your1970

Even the USSR did not allow itself to bomb NATO warships along the course

And what are they? Violated the borders of the USSR? Can you announce the dates when it was?

Here is Tikhonmarine, who claims that he himself carried out this while violating the borders of the USSR (and I believe him).
Video - how ours piled on their ships - squeezing out of the tervod - is on the Internet. This has happened many times.

[syndicalist]

Curious if there were actually bombs? There are a lot of high-quality videos of a moving ship and a flying plane on the network, but nowhere are there any explosions.

[tech3030]

I have not seen it anywhere either. It turns out empty "patriotic" chatter is sent to us from the screens. They hang noodles for us, and they themselves sign that they are powerless to respond harshly to the provocation. It looks simple - creepy!

[Wedmak]

It is unlikely that the navigator-operator would be engaged in filming simultaneously with aiming bombs.

[syndicalist]

He had time to watch beautiful videos of the destroyer fly-over, but he didn't have time for filming after dropping bombs? It's all strange.

[faiver]

and on the set after the bombs were dropped? It's all strange.

- and what will you see on the shoot after dropping bombs if the plane was alone? no explosions are left on the water

[Avior]

Bombs explode unnoticed in the water?

[faiver]

you fly in a Su-24 and drop bombs at the rate of an English destroyer, how will you do the filming? bombs explode below and behind you

[Max PV]

I readily believe that the English team might not have noticed the warning firing. Was in England in 2007. I can't even imagine such drunkenness here. We went with a friend who was there for permanent residence in a pub, so after closing, when we were going home, it was a natural massacre - you had to look at your feet so as not to step on the body. Yes, and it often happens in our country that a man or a woman over forty or fifty, from among the "professionals" in this matter, is lying on the road, and there just like girls and boys of twenty years old in puddles of "bodily fluids" lie in packs. I saw more drunk women there in one Friday evening than we have in 37 years of life.

[1536]

There is a photo where the team of the "Defender" in full combat is ready for any development of events. And the stories about drunken British sailors and drug addiction in the Royal Navy are akin to the statements of the same British about Ukrainian territorial waters. Britain had been preparing for this provocation for 7 years and the ship was there not by chance.

[anjey anjey]

It's not entirely clear - are you talking about this photo?

[Alexander 3]

NATO is curious, what will happen if we violate Russian airspace? Our fighters were kicked out. The maritime borders were checked, our attack aircraft showed them bombs, and the gunners of the ship's accuracy at the course showed them, or could miss right on the hull.

[Evil 55]

They are trying to turn the "global status" into "disastrous" .. And the presence of a journal once again confirms the provocative nature of the destroyer's maneuvers.

[Prisoner]

"Rule Britain over the seas ..."? Wait! Four minutes to escape, and for a long time they will "scoop out the calzones", making a surprised face and claiming that they have not received any luli. Here are the swindlers.

[Tagan]

Quote: atalef

Well, actually at that time everyone had colonies. but if you face the truth - the only empire that left behind a developed infrastructure. law and order is the British empire - everyone else was just plundering their territories.

And often you face the truth?)))
About law and order in all seriousness? Tell the Chinese. Have you heard of the Opium Wars?
It will take a long time to look for such scoundrels as the British.

[1536]

We are waiting for the next provocations. The good news is that there is at least an order to ANSWER provocations. Let it be so, not for real, but to answer. And the British should get a tough asymmetrical answer. Next time, their ships should be detained in case of violation of the Russian borders. Black Sea - Russian Sea. And it always is and always will be.

[Tagan]

Quote: syndicalist

Curious if there were actually bombs? There are a lot of high-quality videos of a moving ship and a flying plane on the network, but nowhere are there any explosions.

Vidos would certainly put everything in its place. But the florid and bizarre explanations of the brit are interesting.
To wash these comrades, it was after their interpretation of the situation that it would be worth posting a video recording.

[demo]

To prevent such insinuations, which can be regarded as "casus belli", that is, a pretext for war, you need to do the only thing possible.
Denounce the border treaty with Ukraine.
From this point on, foreign states will be deprived of "justified claims".
But the pygmies in the Kremlin will not dare to take such a step.

[Oleg Aviator]

I completely agree. And less to make excuses in the UN. And preoccupation with business reinforces.

[DmSol]

Evidence can be provided by either party. 20 minutes of video from the destroyer would clarify a lot (unless of course they do it). It's just that if there really were bombs, then a terrible howl will rise in Britain and it will be much more difficult to resolve this situation. The local inhabitants will not forgive such a slap in the face. It is much more profitable for the British to hush up this situation.

Quote: professor

Quote: Tlauicol

No shooting is visible on the MO video release.
The British say they heard the teachings, but then it turns out that they were going through a closed area.
Both sides muddy the waters

No, not both. One side accuses of violating the state border, declares warning shooting and bombing. She and bring the doc-va. The other side does not have to prove that something WAS NOT.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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Boris, you're wrong! ...
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[aszzz888]

"Johnson is doing the right thing to bring the fleet back to global status."

They run into rudeness, and concrete with the result - the surface will become underwater. Crabs don't mind.

[Esaul]

So can the MoD post a video of the warning bombardment and bombing to shut up the mongrel?
And of course it was a provocation, you have to learn to react to them outside the box in order to get them into a stupor. For example, it would be possible to expel several British oil companies from the Russian Federation.

[Oleg Aviator]

so what is the problem?

[Oleg Aviator]

And so) ... He does everything right) ... In foreign waters.) And does not ask anyone.) I wonder how they would behave with our boat in their waters)?

[Tank jacket]

The United States is draining Britain ...
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WASHINGTON, June 23 - RIA Novosti. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken called Germany the best friend of the United States in the world.
"The United States does not have a better partner, a better friend in the world than Germany," Blinken said at a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Blinken said that, among other things, he plans to discuss Russia and China with the head of Germany.
He stressed that US President Joe Biden is looking forward to seeing Merkel in Washington next month.
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The EU is dumping Britain too
"The circus left and the clowns stayed ..."
German Chancellor Angela Merkel proposed to hold a meeting between the leaders of the EU countries and Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was announced on Wednesday, June 23rd, by the Financial Times, citing diplomatic sources.

It is noted that the initiative to invite the Russian leader to the summit with the heads of the alliance countries was supported by French President Emmanuel Macron.

Pysy
"In time to betray is not to betray, it is to foresee"
"Push the falling one"
"Save yourself, others will save themselves"

[Tank jacket]

Against the backdrop of small British attempts ...
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The Germans advised the British military to stay away from Crimea
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Germany wanted to invest billions of euros in Russia
Almost half of German companies (47 percent) operating in Russia wanted to invest in the country in the next 12 months. This is stated in the study of the Russian-German Chamber of Commerce (VTP).
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In South Africa, the two founders of a cryptocurrency investment platform disappeared, and with them 69 bitcoins worth $ 000 billion. This could be the largest cryptocurrency scam in the world. @banksta

[your1970]

Quote: Tank jacket

The EU is dumping Britain too

The EU cannot merge absent Britain ...
By yourself, all by yourself ...

[Tank jacket]

That's right, the EU doesn't care about the Skripals and Litvinenko. They are in a hurry to negotiate with Putin after the Geneva division of the world.

[Dikson]

The British once again dunked Russia .. Here is what it is called .. Look at the recent articles about last year's violation of the maritime border of the Crimea .. - What did the British say? - What will they repeat without asking permission from Russia .. And they repeated .. And how many planes were flying over them, flapping their wings, how many coast guard boats were spinning around, bursting with useless threats on the international channel - what's the difference? And then, looking at the map and route of Defender, - well, they correctly lit that .. As he walked along a tangent, he passed .. Course deviations are not considered .. .. if they really shouted, he would have left with an overstag, indeed naklav full pants .. And you can fantasize further .. - on the course there bombs were thrown, at what distance from the ship, where they fired, and who .. Why does no one call our guard number? The bombs, even in this square, or in the neighboring one, 15 miles away, but "along the course" of the intruder? A muddy story in which, in fact, ours do not really have much to be proud of ..

[Asad]

A video from a patrol boat would have clarified a lot, I do not believe that it is not.

[Tank jacket]

There is a photo in balaclavas, everyone is sitting ...
She senses a cat whose fat has been dropped ..

[Asad]

Why did they put them on?

[JonnyT]

This equipment allows the skin not to burn in the event of a fire, keeps small fragments and protects against mechanical injuries.

[Asad]

Thank you very much for your reply!

[Tank jacket]

Quote: ASAD

Why did they put them on?

They burned ... They all saw the warnings and maneuvers of our border guards and the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

[mikh-korsakov]

More diapers. but they are not visible.

[lucul]

The British once again dunked Russia ..

This is in your alternate reality.
Because if the Naglo-Saxons really dunked, they would have entered the Sevastopol Bay, and not

As he walked along a tangent, he passed.

A short-term call can always be referred to as a malfunction of the navigation equipment.
But if the destroyer entered Sevastopol, then yes, then I would agree with you.))))

[Dikson]

To enter the water area of ​​even a civilian port, you need to ask for "good" from the coast .. let alone go into the naval base, but without permission? This is not a provocation, but utter nonsense would be .. have you seen the photo from the wheelhouse? The British knew exactly what they were doing and were ready to fire on their ship .. - So they worked for this .. I repeat once again - they said that they would go wherever they wanted. - THEY GONE ..))) And our Border Guards and the Red Banner Fleet are not decree to them .. Well, okay .. actually, what is the fuss about? A mile and a half ... - this is not Rust on Red Square .. - there is still room to fall .. As always, while they called Moscow, "Elvis has already left the building" ..

[lucul]

I repeat once again - they said that they would go wherever they wanted. - THEY GONE ..

I repeat once again - if they consider Crimea to be Ukraine, then they may well enter Sevastopol, with a friendly visit - Ukraine, isn't it? What is the problem, they go wherever they want, in your opinion, not?

[rocket757]

"Johnson is doing everything right, returning the global status to the fleet": the British comment on the violation of the Russian borders by the destroyer Defender

What's not clear here ... "the uprising of a sluggish carrot" is contagious ... Boris just wants to demonstrate this to everyone at once! He needs it.

[cniza]

After all, they can finish badly ... but if they play an independent game it will be very interesting ...

[rocket757]

They are playful on the wrong scale ... everyone understood this a long time ago, they are more or less thinking, and nothing can be predicted for finished deb / B / ilov, there are not thoughts, there are reflexes that were instilled in them.

[cniza]

Not Mi 6 serious guys, by the way, in Ukraine they are developing a project - the Crimean platform and will shit for us if they are not stopped ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Not Mi 6 serious guys

Any petty dirty trick turns into a serious problem when a lot of specific resources are thrown into it ...
And you have to have them, it won't work by itself ...

[cniza]

So it seems that there are no problems with finances, the senior Boss is typing non-stop ...

[rocket757]

There are RESOURCES that can not be replaced by any candy wrappers.
It did not start yesterday and the process continues.

[cniza]

"Johnson is doing everything right, returning the global status to the fleet": the British comment on the violation of the Russian borders by the destroyer Defender

Something has gone wild in earnest ...

[aszzz888]

cniza (Victor)
Today, 09: 14
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"Johnson is doing everything right, returning the global status to the fleet": the British comment on the violation of the Russian borders by the destroyer Defender


Something has gone wild in earnest ...

Sprinkle them with water, and preferably outboard!

[cniza]

Apparently they will not understand otherwise.

[sabakina]

I read the comments, and this is what I dreamed about:
prosecutor:
- It was!
Lawyer:
- Did not have!
Accused:
- I do not remember.
Judge:
- The court session is postponed.

[tralflot1832]

The British do not recognize the fact of warning shots? Yes, because for everyone else, to whom the British are in the throat, they ask the question: And what could have been so !!!

[Bez 310]

And where is the video (photo) of shooting and bombing?
Something our warriors are stirring up ...

[Asad]

I will support the question.

[akropin]

And I will assume that the British were brought into our waters, interfering with the navigation system. If suddenly so, then this is trolling of the highest standard.

[Yellow bubble]

When the war starts who will go to fight? Young people, apart from a keyboard and a mouse, did not hold anything in their hands, just chatter, and in general the rich will watch the war on TV, and the poor will fight and die !!!

[GREG68]

Hmm ... and in the 60s and 70s of the last century, violators, for example, of the air borders of the USSR, got lost. After that, NATO no longer wanted to violate it. And now they openly violate it in a blatant, and even take reporters on board. We played with our "partners" ..

[Oleg Aviator]

I just tried to say it this way, the experts taught me the minuses)))

[your1970]

Quote: GREG68

60-70s of the last century, violators, for example, the air borders of the USSR, got lost. After that, NATO no longer wanted to violate it.

What year do you say lost? In 1983 with a Korean?
And yes, the USSR never sank NATO warships - moreover, it never fired or bombed. The maximum piled on ...

[Alsur]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: Finches

, it was necessary to plant a torpedo in the side ...

Greetings, Eugene
necessary.

you can also install mine banks (controlled incl.) in that area (in their waters you can do anything) and let them try to pass.

It's probably time!

And who will the death of a civilian ship by a mine be attributed to, what do you think? The WB will thank us for such a gift.

[vl903]

Quote: ALSur

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: Finches

, it was necessary to plant a torpedo in the side ...

Greetings, Eugene
necessary.

you can also install mine banks (controlled incl.) in that area (in their waters you can do anything) and let them try to pass.

It's probably time!

And who will the death of a civilian ship by a mine be attributed to, what do you think? The WB will thank us for such a gift.

the man was talking about guided mines. Ie included under the destroyer. the torpedo jumped out of the box and followed the destroyer. but it is still dangerous and expensive. depth charges would be thrown under his nose. would not be drowned, but the body would be bent, and maybe the sonars would be damaged.

[JonnyT]

These 2 boats (no offense to the FSB) could do nothing to the Britt frigate.
It is necessary to strengthen the fleet and then the Britons will not behave so arrogantly

[t-12]

The task of the boat (in combat conditions) is to provide target designation for an anti-ship missile (launched from the coast or from the air). Nothing else is required from the boat.

[lucul]

These 2 boats (no offense to the FSB) could do nothing to the Britt frigate.
It is necessary to strengthen the fleet and then the Britons will not behave so arrogantly

The Black Sea is all studded with Bastions, which will instantly vaporize that destroyer))))

[Serhi]

Why didn’t they suppress their radars with our electronic warfare, they would have piled up kalachiks like Donald Cook and asked to go out on the nearest shore.

[vl903]

Quote: Serhi

Why didn’t they suppress their radars with our electronic warfare, they would have piled up kalachiks like Donald Cook and asked to go out on the nearest shore.

because life and cartoons are somewhat different. Electronic warfare is a good tool, but not magic

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

In Britain, they claim that "the situation was provoked by the Russian side", and "the British ship complied with international norms."

And what right was the British government guided by when declaring the 200 mile zone around the Falkland Islands banned from navigation in 1982?

[DominickS]

A perfect example of the fact that half measures with the "51st US state" are not applicable. It was necessary at least to give a burst below the waterline.

[iouris]

This is a consequence of the unprincipled policy towards Crimea: on the one hand, on the other. In politics, it is impossible to eat a fish and climb on a tree at the same time. Ate a fish - ride a tank. The state of Ukraine should not exist. Otherwise, the question of the existence of the Russian Federation will arise. "Why do we need a world without the Russian Federation?" (almost a quote).

[Awaz]

I watched the BBC report. The video demonstrates that entering the waters of Russia was a systematic armed invasion. THERE clearly show that the British began to load weapons in combat. That is, the trough could be easily drowned ..

[Job74]

Our Tu-160 must fly peacefully over Britain a couple of times.

[Burtas]

These globalists-worms ... need to show once and for all - go in ... seriously shelling ... Second, arrest, block ... and more often off the coast of the Anglo-Saxons ... fly and swim ...

[Ros 56]

When the funeral for the English Marimans comes, there will be other comments. For now, let them bark.

[xomaNN]

previously provided NATO warships with the opportunity to use their territorial waters in the area of ​​the Crimean Peninsula, as well as the airspace above Crimea.

In the next act of the play, will the Anglo-Saxons try to fly over the Crimea? You can not lift our fighter, but launch a couple of missiles. And then say that the air defense exercises were over their own (!) territory.

[Oleg Salov]

Stupid day, your Johnson is not returning your fleet to global status, but is reducing the number of its ships, since this madman said that such raids will continue, and ours said that next time they will shoot to kill, so the British fleet will be systematic decrease.

[Alsur]

Quote: JonnyT

These 2 boats (no offense to the FSB) could do nothing to the Britt frigate.
It is necessary to strengthen the fleet and then the Britons will not behave so arrogantly

Now it has become clear even to amateurs that our fleet is not full-fledged, even for the defense of Crimea.