A life devoted to hieroglyphs. Jean-Francois Champollion - the beginning of the journey

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A life devoted to hieroglyphs. Jean-Francois Champollion - the beginning of the journey
"Ani's Papyrus" c. XIII century BC e. Book of the Dead. British Museum, London

"In science there is no wide pillar road, and only he can reach its shining peaks, who, not fearing fatigue, climbs along its rocky paths."
Karl Marx

History great civilizations. Our story, dedicated to deciphering the ancient Egyptian writing, continues. And today we will continue it with the biography of a truly great man, who, through his work and talent, has revealed a whole ancient civilization to mankind. The name of this man is Jean-Francois Champollion Jr. - because that is what he called himself, to distinguish himself from his older brother - Jacques-Joseph. Although later, of course, no one called him "younger". He was born on December 23, 1790 in the small town of Figeac in the south of France and, like many other people whose life path was clearly predetermined for him from birth, from an early age he demonstrated simply amazing abilities. He was not even five years old when, without the help of adults, he learned to read and write.


Leon Conye. Portrait of Champollion (1831)

True, here Fate itself helped him. The fact is that his father was a bookseller, so there were not just a lot of books around little Jean, but a lot. Both in the shop and at home. So he grew up, one might say, in the world of books and very early began to prefer their society to the society of noisy peers.



But his ability to speak foreign languages ​​stood out most strikingly. Already at the age of nine, he knew Latin and Greek so well that on long winter evenings he could act out whole scenes from Homer and Virgil with his household. And seeing his obvious talent, the family tried to give him the kind of education that his parents, and also his older brother and sisters were deprived of. By the way, his elder brother Jacques-Joseph was also a very extraordinary person. As an adult, he studied a number of sciences, became a linguist, and was even able to get a place as professor of Greek literature at the Lyceum in the city of Grenoble. And it is not surprising that it was to him in Grenoble that ten-year-old Jean-Francois moved to study.

There Champollion the younger was assigned to two schools at once - a city and a private one, which belonged to a certain scholarly abbot. But ... neither of them, nor both of them at once satisfied the boy. Moreover, he was suddenly possessed by a passionate desire: to restore (and describe!) The entire world history in chronological order - “from Adam to Champollion the Younger", As he often liked to say. But how can this be done without knowing the ancient languages? And Jean-François began to independently study the Hebrew language so that the books written in it could be read in the original. And he learned it, and quite quickly. And immediately after that he began to learn Arabic, followed by Syriac and Aramaic. And, perhaps, he would have become just a famous historian, the author of his "World History", but here, again, Fate itself sent him a meeting that changed his whole ... biography.



Thanks to the discovery of Champollion, not only the inscriptions on the walls of temples and shards were read, but also the papyrus scrolls that have come down to us. And not only the Egyptians wrote on papyrus. Here is a private 36,19th-48,89th century Arabic script on papyrus, XNUMX x XNUMX cm.Los Angeles County Museum of Art

He met the famous physicist and mathematician Fourier, who had just returned to France from Egypt and, of course, brought with him a large collection of various Egyptian antiquities. Jacques-Joseph brought his inquisitive eleven-year-old brother to him, and now Champollion was visiting him and saw with his own eyes genuine Egyptian papyri, and amulets in the form of scarab beetles with mysterious letters inscribed on them.

All this, coupled with Fourier's stories about Egypt, made an indelible impression on the receptive boy. And it ended with the fact that he ... made a solemn oath - to devote his life to the study of ancient Egypt and to read hieroglyphic inscriptions.

To begin with, he cut up the books of his elder brother, containing information about Egypt, gleaned from the ancient authors Herodotus, Strabo, Diodorus and Plutarch, and arranged them at his discretion. What to do if copiers did not exist then, and a twelve-year-old boy simply could not rewrite dozens of pages.


Blanking papyrus and weaving mats on a painted bas-relief from the tomb of Puemra. New Kingdom, circa XNUMXth century BC e. Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York

In 1804, Champollion Jr.was assigned to the Lyceum, where he studied for three years. The choice of the place of study was unsuccessful, although it was prestigious to study at the lyceum. The pupils' time was subject to a strict schedule. Even in their free time, students of the Lyceum had no right to engage in extraneous matters that would go beyond the curriculum. And since neither Coptic nor Ethiopian language was listed there, Champollion could not study them either. Meanwhile, he read about the relationship of the Coptic language with the ancient Egyptian and decided that in the matter of deciphering hieroglyphs, he could not do without his knowledge. And the Ethiopian language was spoken in Abyssinia (Ethiopia), close to Egypt, and it could also be useful to him.


Thanks to the finds of many papyri, we today know a lot about the past. For example, the Epistle to the Galatians, rewritten in the papyrus code between 150 and 250 years. Manuscript 6238, 158 r. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan

The strange hobbies of a thirteen-year-old boy did not delight the authorities, but Champollion's passion was stronger than prohibitions, and he began to engage in them at night. All these night vigils ended with the fact that he began to have health problems. But then influential acquaintances of his older brother intervened in the boy's fate, and the administration of the lyceum allowed him to study these languages ​​in his free time.


The famous mathematical "Papyrus of Rind". Also referred to as British Museum Papyrus 10057 and pBM 10058, it is one of the most famous examples of ancient Egyptian mathematics. It is named after Alexander Henry Rind, a Scottish antiquarian who acquired the papyrus in 1858 in Luxor, Egypt. It appears to have been found during illegal excavations at or near the Ramesseum. End of the second interregnum (c. 1550 BC). British Museum, London

At the age of 16, he finished his studies at the Lyceum and was immediately elected ... a member of the Grenoble Academy, which included the most educated residents of this city. The fact is that by the end of the Lyceum Champollion had already written several chapters of his work: "Egypt under the Pharaohs." And he not only wrote them, but also drew up a detailed geographical map of ancient Egypt, which he presented to the Grenoble Academy along with ready-made texts. At a public meeting of the Academy, he read an introduction to his book and spoke about plans for the future. And all this amazed the audience so much that they unanimously awarded him the title of academician.

Well, then the young academician moved to Paris and already there for two years studied Sanskrit, as well as Zend and Pahlavi languages, and also worked in the Paris Library on Coptic manuscripts. He wrote to his brother about his life in Paris that “poor as a poet, and even poorer". However, he endured all this, overcame, and already in 1809 he returned to Grenoble as a professor of history, having received this title at the age of 18!


They wrote on papyrus not only by the Egyptians and not only in hieroglyphs. Here is the bilingual text of Cicero's speech "To Catiline" - the original Latin and the Greek translation. XNUMXth century papyrus scroll. University of Manchester Library

Here he continued to work on his book "Egypt under the Pharaohs." The first two volumes were published in 1814. It would seem that life is getting better and there is not so much left to success. However, it was at this time that Napoleon returned to France and headed for Paris via Grenoble. The Champollion brothers were among the zealous Bonapartists. The elder soon followed Napoleon to Paris, and the younger… became the editor of the Grenoble newspaper, which supported Napoleon.


A papyrus containing data on food supplies to workers involved in the construction of the Cheops pyramid. As you can see, accounting documents have always been similar ... Papyri from the time of Cheops' reign in wadi el-Jarf (Gulf of Suez). Pierre Tallet, University of Paris-Sorbonne (Paris IV). BULLETIN DE LA SOCIÉTÉ FRANÇAISE D'ÉGYPTOLOGIE N ° 188 Février 2014

And then the Hundred Days ended, and the returning Bourbon supporters remembered all their Bonapartism to the brothers. No, they were not imprisoned in the Chateau d'If, like Edmond Dantes, but for a whole year and a half they were sent into exile in their hometown of Figeac. Then, however, they were allowed to return to Grenoble, but both of them were constantly persecuted there, and moreover, in 1821 they achieved the dismissal of Champollion Jr. from the local lyceum in order to deprive him of his livelihood.


On the back of this papyrus there is such a laconic inscription: "Bread count"

And again he had to go to Paris to see his older brother. However, perhaps it was for the best that Champollion Jr. was kicked out of Grenoble. Now nothing distracted him from the main goal to which he planned to devote his life.

To be continued ...
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  1. +8
    25 June 2021 05: 33
    Hope to continue with Saturday morning coffee!
    Thanks Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +4
      25 June 2021 06: 38
      Good morning Vladislav! The continuation of Champollion has already been written and is under moderation. But in a row, this is the 6th material. It may not be in time for Saturday coffee ...
    2. +6
      25 June 2021 06: 38
      The beginning of the history of Champollion the Younger is full of charm and somehow subtly refers to the later heroes - the real Evariste Galois and the generalized Stendalevsky Julien Sorel. Apparently, in different manifestations then all were like that. Or a lot of them. People of manic passions, greatness.
      1. +5
        25 June 2021 07: 39
        Quote: depressant
        The beginning of Champollion Jr.'s story is full of charm

        So it seemed to me too!
      2. +6
        25 June 2021 07: 49
        Apparently, in different manifestations then all were like that. Or a lot of them. People of manic passions, greatness.
        Obsession alone is not enough; luck is still needed. Goodyear, for example, was out of luck.
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 09: 40
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Obsession alone is not enough; luck is still needed.

          And brains. There are a lot of possessed people, yes, even on VO.
          1. +4
            25 June 2021 11: 58
            You are an evil person, Misha. hi "And to people it is necessary to soften and to look wider at life." laughing
            1. +6
              25 June 2021 13: 59
              Why am I suddenly angry? I'm kind, I never even beat my wife ... smile
              But even from school, from the lessons of CWP I remember that only a fool with initiative is worse than a fool. So spoke our military commander, but he knew what was what in this matter.
              And our mathematician at the same school said the following:
              - Children, what does it take to become a brilliant mathematician? The ability to multiply five-digit numbers in your mind by nature? Not necessary. Know all the formulas? Not at all. A wish? Yes, but that's not the point. And most importantly, you need to have brains, because everything else is a superstructure.
              And our historian added to this: You can be smart and not become great, but to become great, being stupid, is impossible.
              All three maxims are, of course, controversial. But today they seem to me just the ultimate truths. smile
              1. +5
                25 June 2021 14: 09
                ... only a fool with initiative is worse than a fool.


                Once again, I was convinced of this by jumping on the article "The American destroyer URO USS Laboon DDG58 leaves the Black Sea." laughing
    3. -1
      25 June 2021 06: 49
      Champollion's biography is similar to the biography of A.T. Fomenko. Both geeks, one started with the study of languages ​​and came to history, the second started with mathematics and geometry and realized that the main applied area of ​​any science is history and its main part chronology.
      1. +4
        25 June 2021 07: 33
        Pavel, good morning!)))
        Once you showed me a video in which a scientist substantiates a new chronology. It was Fomenko, right?
        1. +6
          25 June 2021 09: 02
          Colleagues ... Why dislike Ordynsky? Below I have given a short history of the Academy of Grenoble - how changeable everything is! And how it looks like.
          Where is the truth?
          1. +2
            25 June 2021 17: 53
            And the truth is, it is considered good form to condemn Paul here.
            I really don't know why. Indeed, unlike some of them, he does not engage in direct historical falsifications, but simply points out the discrepancy between the generally accepted knowledge of official history and some real maps and documents. Is it bad?
            IMHO, it seems to me here a "disservice" he is rendered by the biased attitude of the members of the forum towards Nosovsky and Fomenko.
            Bar in his comments should just write - not "according to Fomenko that ...", but "the hypothesis holds that ...". And then there will be much less minus.
            1. +3
              25 June 2021 19: 50
              Quote: Richard
              Baru in his comments should simply write - not "as Fomenko asserts that ...", but "there is a hypothesis that ...". And then there will be much less minus.


              I am not interested in the local payment system for falsehood, I have said and will say what I think, it’s easier for me to live for sure.
              1. +5
                25 June 2021 20: 07
                In vain you got excited with a minus, I never minus you.
                Do as you see fit, I am not teaching you, but only made my assumption on how you can avoid losing points. It will be a pity if you are "zeroed" again, because you are one of the "oldest" on "topwar.ru" hi
        2. +2
          25 June 2021 19: 45
          Quote: depressant
          Once you showed me a video in which a scientist substantiates a new chronology. It was Fomenko, right?


          Yes.
      2. +6
        25 June 2021 10: 06
        Quote: Bar1
        Champollion's biography is similar to the biography of A.T. Fomenko. Both geeks, one started with the study of languages ​​and came to history, the second started with mathematics and geometry and realized that the main applied area of ​​any science is history and its main part chronology.

        Uh-huh! Timur, did you not think that in your commentary on "Fominkovschina" there will be more than in the works of Fomenko and Nasonov?
        That is, only two logical conclusions are identical! Both were born and both wrote !!! The rest is an owl and a globe !!!
        My regards, hi
        However, if they do not come up with a pill for immortality, time will find another identity. However, everyone can be included in this galaxy.
      3. +4
        25 June 2021 10: 45
        Quote: Bar1
        Fomenko A.T. .began with mathematics and geometry and realized that the main applied area of ​​any science is history and its main part chronology.

        Naturally. The main part of any science is the theory of Marxism-Leninism, inextricably linked with the history of the class struggle.
      4. +3
        25 June 2021 11: 43
        Colleague Bar, do you remember who said that they were not enthusiastic about Fomenko?
        1. 0
          25 June 2021 19: 47
          Quote: Astra wild2
          Colleague Bar, do you remember who said that they were not enthusiastic about Fomenko?


          who spoke?
    4. +4
      25 June 2021 18: 08
      Hope to continue with Saturday morning coffee!

      hi Greetings, Vladislav
      how good the phrase is. Took into service Yes
      Voiced it at breakfast to my wife. She almost dropped the kettle from surprise laughing
      1. +3
        25 June 2021 18: 21
        Good evening Dmitry, I met the morning at work. With one hand he held a phone with an article in the other iron ironed trousers (hushed up for a day). Tomorrow I have my first day off from May 28, I hope in the morning for coffee with milk, pulled it on the veranda !!! I won't go on, my salivation has already begun to flow, I don't even know from what more, from anticipating the continuation of Vyacheslav's essay or the aroma of coffee !!!
  2. +9
    25 June 2021 06: 31
    This is passion.
    Many people can.
    Especially when it goes beyond the usual framework.
  3. +9
    25 June 2021 06: 33
    A talented young man. Plus dedication and will, as a result, an excellent result.

    And today, knowledge of African languages ​​for him would be very useful for communicating with many inhabitants of modern Paris ...
    1. +7
      25 June 2021 06: 42
      Yeah. There they constantly attached to us with an offer to buy a keychain with an eiffel tower ... Moreover, some of them spoke Russian quite well. In the center of Paris! But when we asked one Frenchman to help us find our way to the hotel, he shied away from me like the devil from incense. Mistook for a Syrian or Afghan. Well, my wife and granddaughter were there and explained that we are lost Europeans.
      1. +8
        25 June 2021 07: 23
        Moreover, some spoke Russian quite well. In the center of Paris!
        As Albert (Krasnodar) says: "I will learn Swahili if business needs it."
        Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
        1. +10
          25 June 2021 07: 36
          There was more than enough importunity.
          And realizing the futility of the attempts came: "Russian mafia!"
          1. +9
            25 June 2021 07: 44
            Quote from Korsar4
            And realizing the futility of the attempts came: "Russian mafia!"

            Exactly! And yet - "Racist!"
            1. +7
              25 June 2021 07: 55
              Don't say in the center of Paris: "We don't buy from non-Russians!" laughing
              1. +6
                25 June 2021 08: 00
                It is better to ask a question: "Do you have Molvo sugar?" (from).
              2. +2
                25 June 2021 18: 36
                And there was no need to say in the center of Paris: "We don't buy from non-Russians!"

                So Vyacheslav didn’t say that, he just politely asked a street vendor in his ear, “You don’t sell a Slavic wardrobe?”.
                Then all the merchants and bystanders screaming "Save yourself who can! Petroff et Bosharoff" scattered in horror lol
          2. 0
            25 June 2021 13: 03
            They probably don't have the warmest relationship with the Russian mafia?
            1. 0
              25 June 2021 15: 08
              Most likely just a stamp.
              And the fish fell off.
      2. +8
        25 June 2021 08: 02
        Yeah. They were constantly attached to us with an offer to buy a keychain with an eiffel tower ... Moreover, some spoke Russian quite well. In the center of Paris!

        Moreover, all key rings, without exception, are made in China in some kind, judging by the quality, gateway. An attempt to find a French of decent quality led to success in two hours.

        True, the price of forty euros is not particularly attractive to purchase.
        1. +6
          25 June 2021 08: 28
          Quote: Undecim
          True, the price of forty euros is not particularly attractive to purchase.

          And then the price was in cents ... and even at a discount!
        2. +8
          25 June 2021 09: 58
          The best souvenir from Paris is the Laguiole knife (approx. 100 €) I've had it for about 20 years.
          1. +7
            25 June 2021 10: 21
            It's good that you have 100 euros for a knife ...
            1. +9
              25 June 2021 10: 31
              It is better to buy a knife for 100 € and for a long time than an Eiffel Tower keychain made of duralumin from a Negro for 5 € and soon throw it away or give it to someone.
              The question is not about the amount of money, but how to dispose of it. laughing
              1. +5
                25 June 2021 11: 52
                Good afternoon, Sasha. hi
                I agree with you - "We are not rich enough to buy cheap things." smile
                1. +4
                  25 June 2021 12: 02
                  Hi Kostya!
                  We didn’t come up with this! Maybe I was wrong, but only blacks sell keychains in Paris. I don't remember Arabs with key chains.
                  How are the crop views?
                  1. +7
                    25 June 2021 12: 11
                    Of all the foreign capitals, I have only been to Vilnius, Riga, Kiev and Birobidzhan. laughing
                    We have been cracking our own, fresh green onion for a long time, and we will look with the rest in the fall. The heat has finally gotten out already, I can hardly bear it, and this is in the village, I can't imagine how you are in the cities.
                    1. +4
                      25 June 2021 12: 20
                      Everyone wanted warmth, so they got it!
                      I am at my son's dacha near Vsevolozhsk along the Road of Life. Somewhere 25 km from Ladoga. There is a full house on the shore of the lake! Yesterday a light rain passed, and today in the morning there are clouds, but not rain. Maybe it will.
                      Midges and mosquitoes devour in the evening. And so everything is fine!
                      1. +6
                        25 June 2021 12: 55
                        We only dream of rain. smile
                      2. +3
                        25 June 2021 13: 10
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        We only dream of rain.

                        We have heat and thunderstorms with rain, lightning and thunder. The Ministry of Emergency Situations has already been warned - tomorrow there will be another thunderstorm and 18 m / s wind.
                      3. +2
                        25 June 2021 13: 21
                        A thunderstorm in the village, this is also not very good, with a strong wind, electricity is cut off, although we have a good repair. team, quickly put everything in order.
                      4. +2
                        27 June 2021 11: 15
                        We turn off the electricity for the entire thunderstorm!
                      5. +6
                        25 June 2021 22: 43
                        We have heat and thunderstorms with rain, lightning and thunder.

                        Does a thunderstorm happen without lightning?
                      6. +5
                        25 June 2021 22: 51
                        There are dry thunderstorms. It's just without rain.
                      7. +6
                        25 June 2021 23: 22
                        There are dry thunderstorms. It's just without rain.

                        To be precise, they are also with rain. The rain just evaporates before it reaches the surface of the earth.
                      8. +3
                        25 June 2021 23: 33
                        I agree. More correct wording: "Almost no precipitation."
                      9. +4
                        26 June 2021 05: 17
                        Once I got into a winter thunderstorm. A phantasmagoric spectacle. And creepy.
                      10. +2
                        26 June 2021 05: 26
                        In which region?
                      11. +4
                        26 June 2021 05: 38
                        In Murmansk. Note that thunderstorms are generally not typical for the Kola Peninsula. Having lived there for 19 years, I can only remember a few cases.
                      12. Fat
                        +1
                        26 June 2021 06: 40
                        hi Observed (missed ...) a thunderstorm in Kostroma in mid-February. At the end of the XNUMXs Everything is as it should be: flashes, thunder, heavy clouds and ... No precipitation. request
                        As a "bonus" from what he saw - the loss of the ability to be very surprised and the words "this cannot be" began to be used very rarely.
                        Anything can happen Yes
                      13. +2
                        26 June 2021 07: 28
                        (missed ...)
                        I didn't have much choice: either to stomp through this thunderstorm to the barracks, or to spend the night at the communications center
                        Andrew! hi
                      14. +2
                        27 June 2021 11: 22
                        It happens that it rumbles around like the main caliber of a battleship, and around it is dark like a black man's ... in the stomach, no outbreaks.
                      15. +4
                        25 June 2021 13: 27
                        Gismetio predicts afternoon rains and thunderstorms in the Ryazan region.
                      16. +3
                        25 June 2021 13: 31
                        Thanks for that, I'll go check the generator. smile
                    2. +5
                      25 June 2021 15: 09
                      That's it: this is how Riga, Minsk, Tbilisi and Dushanbe become abroad.
                      1. +6
                        25 June 2021 15: 17
                        As well as Zhmerynka and Mariupol. fellow
                      2. +3
                        25 June 2021 21: 55
                        Have not been to these worthy points.
                        And I like the Black Sea more than Azov.
                      3. +3
                        26 June 2021 07: 45
                        I also like the Black Sea, but if the White Sea was a little warmer, I would not get out of there, under the water of the beauty. True, underwater archeology and "black diggers" have nothing to do there, because there are no artifacts under water.
                      4. +1
                        26 June 2021 09: 40
                        Our favorite place is to put up a tent near Belomorsk.
                      5. +1
                        26 June 2021 09: 46
                        Except for Poyakonda and BBS, I have not been anywhere else, although they walked like the WFD on the sea and climbed the islands.
                      6. +1
                        26 June 2021 10: 00
                        What are the familiar names. But I communicate less with the Biological Faculty of the University than I would like.
                      7. +1
                        26 June 2021 10: 09
                        We there, in Velikaya Salma, together with divers from Kandalaksha, erected a monument to all the "scum" on the ground, which led to the complete frustration of the BBS chief Comrade. Pertsov. laughing
            2. +6
              25 June 2021 16: 08
              It's good that you have 100 euros for a knife ...

              A very profitable purchase. And with such a knife in the evening in Paris, you can easily work back your 100 euros Yes
              I hope our Alexander from Paris is not at a loss returned smile
              1. +4
                25 June 2021 16: 16
                Quote: Richard
                And with such a knife in the evening in Paris, you can easily work back your 100 euros

                Well, I don’t know, it seems to me that there is too much competition for this business in Paris. We need to look for quieter cities, like Arbatov ... wassat
                1. +2
                  25 June 2021 17: 09
                  We need to look for quieter cities like Arbatov.

                2. +3
                  25 June 2021 18: 00
                  Père-Champenoise is also suitable, but not Russian. laughing
              2. +2
                25 June 2021 23: 43
                Dmitry!
                You have to go to Paris to spend! drinks
                Yes, in general, as in the classics.
                "We are not supporters of robbery.
                A knife doesn’t need a bouncer:
                ......
                A knife is not needed for greedy:
                ......
                A fool doesn’t need a knife:
                ....... "
                A good knife, color the appetizer, and uncork the wine!
                And the most important thing is the memory of the trip. hi
                1. +3
                  26 June 2021 00: 10
                  hi Good night, Alexander.
                  The same does not sleep?
                  1. +2
                    26 June 2021 00: 13
                    Good!
                    Guests are with my son, you can't sleep here, although they are sitting in the courtyard.
                    1. +4
                      26 June 2021 00: 20
                      My youth stopped by during the day - they threw their granddaughter for the weekend and took it to their place in Pyatigorsk
                  2. +2
                    26 June 2021 00: 19
                    All have already left. We sat and chatted. Mosquitoes and midges seize.
                    1. +2
                      26 June 2021 00: 26
                      We do not have them here, thank God. But a fumigator with pills, not every firefighter in the house is available
                      1. +2
                        26 June 2021 00: 32
                        We processed the site. Fewer, but still fly. Damp, near the forest, the soil is swampy.
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                      3. +2
                        26 June 2021 01: 00
                        It is near the city of Vsevolozhsk. Probably came to visit. Last year we bought a dacha. And they practically moved. It was a bit chilly in winter and they returned to the apartment. And since April they have been living in the country again. The granddaughter goes to the kindergarten in Vsevolozhsk. From St. Petersburg about 10 km. If without traffic jams - quickly, and so 40-50 minutes.
                        It became boring in Tallinn, so let's go. Now the weather is favorable.
                        They thought to return to the first, but the wife persuades to stay.
                        There is at least some movement. Tired of going to St. Petersburg together.
                        There are many friends there. Mostly classmates.
                        We will go to St. Petersburg on Sunday morning (due to traffic jams) and we will be there for 3-4 days
                        Met with Nikolay (pane.kohan) Anton (nickname 3x3 something like that love ) and Mikhail (household trilo.) The reason - a tour of the Priyutino estate. We drank coffee and parted, Russia and Finland played.
                        Hope to see you again.
                        Ask, and I will answer.
      3. +5
        25 June 2021 10: 46
        Quote: kalibr
        In the center of Paris!

        Our tour group in Saint Denis was robbed in front of the police station.
        1. +3
          25 June 2021 14: 49
          In Barcelona, ​​a guy from our group had a shovel washed. But the hotel guide warned: Barcelona is the European capital of pickpockets!
          1. +5
            25 June 2021 14: 59
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            In Barcelona, ​​a guy from our group had a shovel washed. And the hotel guide warned: Barcelona is the European capital of pickpockets!

            In Barcelona, ​​we had such a case: behind the "Sagrada Familia" on the opposite side, my wife and I stopped to take a picture from there, a little from afar. We stopped under a 3-4-storey building with a balcony and suddenly a wallet falls on top of us, such a thick beautiful "shovel" made of leather. My wife says: "Oh, someone dropped it, I have to give it back," but somehow I didn't quite figure it out, rather I felt that something was wrong here, well, wallets usually don't fall from the sky, and from the balconies too. I say don't touch. We stepped aside, looked around and saw that a couple of people were watching us closely: one type was reading a newspaper, and he was looking at us. Then I looked on the Internet: such a layout of tourists: thanks for returning the wallet, but something from it 500 euros was lost, could not be returned. hi
            1. +4
              25 June 2021 15: 21
              I was only offered to buy Sensimilia, well, I probably have such an erysipelas, which is very conducive to its acquisition. wassat laughing
              1. +3
                25 June 2021 15: 27
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                I was only offered to buy Sensimilia, well, I probably have such an erysipelas, which is very conducive to its acquisition.

                And a piece of the Holy Cross: naturally original and inexpensive wassat
                1. +5
                  25 June 2021 15: 37
                  This is a different story, from St. Petersburg. It was 20 years ago. Jehovah's family got to the bottom of me, and they got to the bottom so importunately! He endured for about five minutes, then took off his glasses, made a disgusting face and growled: "Alla akbar!"
                  1. +3
                    25 June 2021 15: 49
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    Jehovah's family got to the bottom of me, and they got to the bottom so importunately!

                    "- Give me a girl, beautiful, I'll guess!
                    - Do you love God as I love him?
                    And for three days the gypsy camp fought off Jehovah's witness. wassat
                    Now I remembered: they also "copied" a credit card with us, or rather with my wife. A day later, as we arrived, in the evening already at 12 o'clock a message comes that 1 euro was paid from the card at the car park in Madrid - ????? We are near Barcelona, ​​and where is Madrid? The wife called the bank: they say - yes, there is such a transaction, it looks like the data of your card got to the scammers, you need to block it: they checked it, now they will withdraw. In general, the card was blocked and we were left without money "insurance". We usually travel with cash, and the card is insurance, if not enough. I remember when we got on the return flight, we had 10 cents left.
                    Moreover, we paid only 2 times with this card as we arrived: on the auto-rent, when we took the car and on the toll road. Somewhere in these two places, I think on the author. hi
                    1. +2
                      25 June 2021 17: 32
                      I remember when we got on the return flight, we had 10 cents left.
                      Extremals, damn it! No, I can't do that. You can't think about money on vacation!
              2. +2
                25 June 2021 16: 21
                I'm even afraid to say what the kids in the Egyptian Bedouin village offered me in exchange for my "Fendy" sunglasses, ..... and - with a box and a pouch smile
                Well the guide helped out, saying that Russtourist already has one
                1. +3
                  25 June 2021 18: 07
                  I had to take it! laughing
                  1. +2
                    25 June 2021 18: 22
                    That's it! Now we would discuss the photo. It would be fun! good drinks wassat )))
                    1. +1
                      25 June 2021 18: 33
                      I will offer another photo.

                      For a long time (within three days) I was looking for an original souvenir from Barcelona, ​​and I found it. In the bookstore. Ten minutes walk from Barcelonetta beach.
                      1. +2
                        25 June 2021 18: 41
                        I thought for a long time ... I was straining ... Anton, what is it? laughing )))
                      2. +2
                        25 June 2021 19: 04
                        Do not strain yourself on every occasion, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. Especially with regard to me.
                      3. +2
                        25 June 2021 19: 09
                        In this case, about the subject)))
                        You won't leave me in the dark, will you?
                      4. +2
                        25 June 2021 19: 18
                        I will not leave. This souvenir is a copy of street signs, one of the central streets of Barcelona.
                      5. +4
                        25 June 2021 19: 33
                        Well, you see how simple it is! love ))))
                        And then I already decided that you are trying on with a boot in my snout wassat
                      6. +3
                        25 June 2021 19: 49
                        A sign on someone's door
                        And this someone - to the end ...
                        Shouldn't we send us a messenger
                        Soothe the sadness of the last note
                        A bottle of strong wine?
                    2. +2
                      25 June 2021 21: 08
                      I had to take it! laughing

                      That's it! Now we would discuss the photo. It would be fun! good laughing wassat

                      What picture? My arrest with the RPD at the airport? Yes, I can imagine how you would have fun here angry
        2. +1
          26 June 2021 01: 32
          Our tour group in Saint Denis was robbed in front of the police station.

          But the Russo-tourist quickly got their bearings, and in order not to return from Paris without souvenirs, they together robbed the police station laughing
      4. 0
        25 June 2021 12: 59
        Was your pronunciation awful or why did you scare the Frenchman?
      5. +5
        25 June 2021 16: 01
        when we asked one Frenchman to help us find our way to the hotel, he shied away from me like the devil from incense. Mistook for a Syrian or Afghan.

        Anyone would have shied away! - you shouldn't have walked around Paris in a camel wool pacola and with a Winchester under your arm Yes laughing
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 16: 54
          Quote: Richard
          you shouldn't have walked around Paris in a camel wool pacola and a Winchester under your arm

          and with a pair of scalps on my belt ... wassat
          1. +2
            25 June 2021 17: 04
            and with a pair of scalps on my belt ...

            These are souvenirs for the memory of a trip to Paris.
            Anything more exclusive than cheap Chinese Eiffel Tower keychains smile
            1. +2
              25 June 2021 18: 15
              Scalps? Fuuu! What wildness and lack of spirituality! Enlightened and civilized people prefer other souvenirs! laughing
              1. Fat
                +5
                25 June 2021 19: 26
                Is it really tsantsa? feel
                1. +3
                  25 June 2021 20: 18
                  How many centuries do I have to live to finally learn everything?!?
                  I thought, they say, a joke, but it ...

                  - Tsantsa (tsantsa) - a specially dried human head. Facial features are preserved, but she becomes the size of a fist. Tsantsa Pitt Rivers Museum, Oxford. Since ancient times, people have adorned themselves with necklaces from the claws of predators, their skins, made headdresses from bird feathers, '' Wikipedia told me and nodded to me with tsantsa as a sign of persuasiveness.
                  1. +3
                    25 June 2021 22: 08
                    Think of Moby Dick, an outstanding book.
                    1. +2
                      25 June 2021 23: 21
                      There is no book for every new life event! More and more skeletons crawl into their heads in their own closet with the remains of dried meat from past brutal experiments on their own being and consciousness.
                      1. +2
                        26 June 2021 01: 43
                        More and more skeletons are crawling into the head in their own closet with the remains of dried meat.

                        Lyudmila Yakovlevna hi
                        bearded joke on the topic:
                        granddaughter asks grandmother:
                        - Grandma, have you ever had a lover?
                        Grandmother rolls her eyes languidly:
                        - Lover, ah lover! Yes, of course, I had a lover in the 80s!
                        then with a cry -Ah, damn sclerosis !!! He rushes to the closet and opens from there .... a skeleton falls out laughing
    2. +8
      25 June 2021 07: 18
      And today, knowledge of African languages ​​for him would be very useful for communicating with many inhabitants of modern Paris ...
      Andrew! hi
      Of the 14 states that have designated French as their official language, 12 are located in Africa. I think Champollion would have done with his native language.
      1. +5
        25 June 2021 09: 04
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Andrew!
        Of the 14 states that have designated French as their official language, 12 are located in Africa. I think Champollion would have done with his native language.

        hi
        in Paris, and especially in the suburbs, there are many enclaves where they do without the French language at all and even ask the President of France to show a real French boy named Pierre (isn't that just a character in fairy tales)
        1. +7
          25 June 2021 09: 21
          in Paris, and especially in the suburbs, there are many enclaves where they do without French at all
          Exactly as in Moscow and St. Petersburg - without Russian.
          By the way, there is a good film on this topic, with E. Mironov in the title role, "Norway".
          1. 0
            25 June 2021 11: 27
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Exactly like in Moscow and St. Petersburg - without Russian


            for example, where is St. Denis in St. Petersburg?
            1. +3
              25 June 2021 11: 42
              Quote: Olgovich
              for example, where is St. Denis in St. Petersburg?

              For example, the area near the Lomonosovskaya metro station received the nickname "Harlem"
            2. +2
              25 June 2021 12: 33
              Analogue in the Peter and Paul Fortress.
              1. -1
                25 June 2021 21: 23
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Analogue in the Peter and Paul Fortress.

                does someone live in Petropavlovskaya? They slaughter the rams and bleed them into the storm drain / neva?

                The last house number 15 was resettled in 2011
                1. -1
                  25 June 2021 22: 13
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  They slaughter the rams and bleed them into the storm drain / neva?


                  On Eid al-Adha in St. Petersburg, it will be possible to slaughter sheep in four places

                  IGOR KARASEV SEPTEMBER 24, 2015, 08:49

                  Eid al-Adha.

                  Today, the rite of sacrifice can be performed in four places.
                  Traditionally, more than 60 thousand Muslims will come to the Cathedral Mosque on Kronverksky Avenue for the festive prayer on the holiday of Eid al-Adha. About 20 thousand more will gather at the Kolomyazhskaya Mosque on Repishcheva Street. Also, believers are expected in prayer rooms at the addresses: Bering Street, 23/3 and 6th line V.O., 35b.

                  In accordance with tradition, a sacrifice ceremony will be performed on the holiday, during which the believers will slaughter a ram.
                  .....
                  Recall that a ritual performed by believers on November 27, 2009 caused a wide public outcry.
                  Then in the very center of the city, in Apraksin Dvor, several dozen people staged a massacre. In front of many people, among whom were children, rams were slaughtered.


                  This year, the authorities of St. Petersburg have identified four places where you can perform the rite of sacrifice on the holiday of Eid al-Adha:
                  • Shushary village, Shkolnaya street, on the territory of the former state farm.

                  • Koltushi village, Tokar street, equestrian center.

                  • The village of Novosergeevka.

                  • The village of Maloe Karlino (Lomonosov district).




                  A terrifying picture could be observed in the very center of St. Petersburg. People walked along Apraksin Dvor and between the 34th and 36th buildings they saw a terrible picture: several dozen persons of "Caucasian nationality" were dragging the bleating rams. Right there on the asphalt, they laid out the cardboard boxes and began to cut them. Blood gushed in all directions, the severed heads fell under their feet. Accidental witnesses are terrified. Other participants in the massacre looked at the chaos and ... smiled.

                2. 0
                  26 June 2021 04: 13
                  Sheep were slaughtered in Apraksin yard, a couple of years ago.
                  1. 0
                    26 June 2021 08: 57
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    s, a couple of years ago.

                    12 years ago is not a couple of years.

                    In San Denis it happens massively and always and there is simply no one to be surprised - all the wondering ones have long fled.

                    so what about Petropavlovka-where there are massive migrants living and cutting, as in San Denis? Nowhere.
                    1. 0
                      26 June 2021 09: 14
                      Andrew! hi
                      Let's point by point.
                      1. Yes, I was wrong with the date, but the fact was correct. After all, I am not the archive of the Fontanka.ru news agency.
                      2. Above, a colleague gave you addresses in St. Petersburg, officially announced by the city authorities, as places for ritual sacrifices.
                      3. The fact that the St. Petersburg authorities deal with the problem better than the Parisian ones is obvious, but the St. Petersburg solution is also palliative.
                      4. Peter and Paul cited as an example by analogy with the abbey of Saint-Denis.
                      1. 0
                        26 June 2021 11: 31
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Andrew! hi
                        Let's point by point.
                        1. Yes, I was wrong with the date, but the fact was correct. After all, I am not the archive of the Fontanka.ru news agency.
                        2. Above, a colleague gave you addresses in St. Petersburg, officially announced by the city authorities, as places for ritual sacrifices.
                        3. The fact that the St. Petersburg authorities deal with the problem better than the Parisian ones is obvious, but the St. Petersburg solution is also palliative.
                        4. Peter and Paul cited as an example by analogy with the abbey of Saint-Denis.

                        Anton hi ,

                        all is clear, thank you
  4. +7
    25 June 2021 07: 38
    Quote: depressant
    Or a lot of them.

    Many things were not revealed. And new discoveries did not require devices worth a million ...
  5. +6
    25 June 2021 08: 02
    Some overweight papyrus purveyor. Probably a student priest in seasonal agricultural work.
    1. +5
      25 June 2021 09: 59
      Guest workers from Tartary.
    2. +2
      25 June 2021 14: 01
      Quote: Aviator_
      Probably a student priest in seasonal agricultural work.

      An image from the tomb of a high-ranking priest of Puemra, and no matter how he himself as a collector of papyrus, in the Egyptian spirit - the pharaoh himself reaped the first sheaf of the new harvest, the priest collected papyrus for sacred texts, and moved his son, - the young man is nearby, with a successful coincidence he could take his place.
      Egyptian art is very iconographic, especially in tombs, it cannot be just an everyday scene, it is always some kind of sacred rite, and the priest is a participant in it.
  6. +5
    25 June 2021 08: 31
    He was not even five years old when, without the help of adults, he learned to read and write.
    True, here Fate itself helped him. The fact is that his father was a bookseller, so there were not just a lot of books around little Jean, but a lot.

    Here it would be more correct to write that the Lord himself helped, since despite the abundance of books, Champollion learned to read from the Catholic prayer book of a parishioner.
  7. +4
    25 June 2021 08: 42
    Thank you, very interesting and informative
    1. +1
      25 June 2021 16: 37
      I liked the article. thank
  8. +7
    25 June 2021 08: 42
    As always, I was interested in the details. What is Grenoble? There seemed to have once been an Olympiad in winter sports, and once I came across this information, I perceived Grenoble as a small mountain village suitable for skiing. And then suddenly a university appeared, about which the locals, out of old habit, say: Academy! And visiting scientists call Grenoble a cool mixture of Dubna and Silicon Valley.
    It turned out that not everything is so simple. There are Roman ruins. However, where they are not in Europe - Roman ruins! Perhaps in Germany.

    The last independent ruler of the Dauphiné, a state within the Holy Roman Empire, Humbert II Venyoni founded the University of Grenoble on May 12, 1339 with the aim of providing the population with knowledge of civil and canon law, medicine and liberal arts. The established university quickly gained a reputation as a Renaissance leader in the development of the humanities.
    The actions of the already middle-aged Humbert were inspired by his grandson Robert, King of Naples, known as the Wise. The latter developed Naples from a small port to a wealthy city and had a reputation as a cultured man and a generous patron of the arts.
    Humbert's desire to create a university in his own state forced him to visit Pope Benedict XII to get his own idea approved. Received and created. And, having created, he deeply delved into the concerns of his students, offering generous help, protection and even providing a hundred of them with free housing. However, the financial losses of Humbert during the Crusades and the attachment of the Dauphini state to France also significantly reduced the activity of the university, which led to its closure, since a small mountain town could not support the activities of its science without additional financial support from outside.
    A new university instead of a closed one was created by Louis XI in 1475, but in Valencia and under the name of the University of Valencia, and the original university was restored in Grenoble in 1542 by Count Francis de Bourbon. The two universities were finally reunited in 1565, and Grenoble became an important center of legal practice in France, as legal science, for some reason, found itself at the center of university education in general.
    Because of this, the French Revolution, with its goal of excluding hereditary privileges, resulted in the suppression of most universities in France. Universities were seen as bastions of corporatism and the defense of feudal interests. And the university lands used to support the activities of the universities themselves were a source of wealth and were therefore confiscated as property belonging to the Church.
    In 1805-1808, Napoleon, already out of personal interests, restored the faculties of law, literature and science, and the restoration of the Bourbons temporarily suppressed the literary and legal faculties as the ideological heirs of the Napoleonic era.
    Is this a war of ideologies familiar?)))

    And only since 1850, the activities of the university began to develop rapidly in a normal way.
  9. 0
    25 June 2021 08: 57
    Q. Oh, you have an interesting job, but "I started learning Arabic, followed by Syrian", but he did not learn American?
    NEVER HEARED ABOUT SYRIAN
    1. Fat
      +8
      25 June 2021 09: 12
      hi Syriac is a dead language of the Aramaic group, in general, look at Wiki ...
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 12: 44
        I heard about the Aramaic group of languages, but was not particularly interested
    2. +6
      25 June 2021 09: 38
      NEVER HEARED ABOUT SYRIAN

      You open this book here.

      You are reading.
      1. +9
        25 June 2021 10: 10
        Edessa, with his Syrian language, is not in Syria now, but in Turkey. But it happened historically. Erdogan is out of business here.
        1. +6
          25 June 2021 11: 58
          Recently, under the articles of Shpakovsky, a group of some minus goblins has been on duty from around the corner. This was not the case before.
      2. +3
        25 June 2021 12: 49
        Vic. Nick, I'm convinced that you have information on almost everything.
        For this we appreciate you, but there are individuals that will minus you for this.
        1. +2
          25 June 2021 16: 40
          What's the point? With the epaulettes of the general-letenant VikNiku, it doesn't matter laughing
          1. 0
            26 June 2021 09: 02
            Actually, he is our honored field marshal, and your humble servant: Lieutenant General
            1. +1
              26 June 2021 09: 07
              Actually, he is our honored field marshal

              all the more, the minuses can be ignored at all.
              With the lieutenant general, it is no longer possible to get cons
              1. 0
                26 June 2021 10: 20
                The Major General has a similar situation. Unless a new denomination is arranged
  10. +9
    25 June 2021 09: 29
    He was born on December 23, 1790 in the small town of Figeac in the south of France

    This town hasn't changed much since those times.

    Place Champollion.

    Place des ecritures
    1. +8
      25 June 2021 10: 25
      The entire next article will be illustrated with photos from Figeac!
  11. +7
    25 June 2021 10: 01
    Figeac is a tiny provincial town. I drove through those parts more than ten years ago. Puppet, with a museum of its great native, with some kind of river, forgot the name, which regularly floods there ...
    Even today there are 10 thousand population, and at the time of Champollion, it was generally a hole a hole.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich will undoubtedly tell us a lot about this man. It is customary to talk about such people with pathos - "he put his life on the altar of science." But in essence, this is so! Continuous learning of different languages, writing scientific papers, traveling through the most abandoned and neglected places at that time without the minimum, in our understanding, comfort. Lousy food and water, working 20 hours a day, malaria, fevers, chronic pneumonia, asthma, gout and rheumatism brought him to apoplexy and death at 41. How much more he could do in his life, how much benefit to bring to science ...
    By the way, many Egyptian researchers passed away barely reaching the age of forty ...
    1. +6
      25 June 2021 10: 50
      It turns out that the portrait of Champollion, painted by Léon Cognier in 1831, was created on the eve of the scientist's death? And I looked at this portrait and thought: "What a handsome Champollion was!"
    2. +5
      25 June 2021 11: 02
      Quote: A. Privalov

      By the way, many Egyptian researchers passed away barely reaching the age of forty ...

      In 1967, underexamined
  12. +4
    25 June 2021 10: 07
    And yet I'm curious.
    To the story with Fomenko. I have to find out something for myself. On that video ... The man speaks with a very strong South Russian accent. I have never seen such an accent in the Kuban. Visiting Ukraine - too. Some kind of hardened villageism in a figure of high science, coming from an intelligent, educated family. Moreover, her mother is a teacher of Russian literature. The guy from the moment he graduated from school is found at Moscow State University. It was possible, after such a long time, to get rid of the pronunciation, which is generally incomprehensible where it came from among the Donetsk intelligentsia. Unless it was cultivated by its bearer himself. As an additional career bargaining chip? I don't think a really talented person needed this. Why did all my classmates from Ukraine, deeply rural, by the way, speak pure Russian? Why did actress Gurchenko allegedly make a titanic effort to get rid of the South Russian accent? Whereas in Kharkov, where she comes from, absolutely all the people on the street before the age of 91 spoke pure Russian. And at the village aunts in handkerchiefs, from some western hinterland, at the sound of their speech, they turned around in fright. Despite the fact that many actresses from Ukraine were filmed at Mosfilm, they were not completely burdened by the local pronunciation.
    This is not me for nationalism. This is me about respect for others. And most importantly - about trust in a person, therefore, in his business. Subtle details that can cause alertness through an indirect association with the famous Lysenko figure - both useful and harmful. I don't know if Lysenko had an accent. Maybe just a similar sounding of surnames.
    1. +5
      25 June 2021 10: 28
      Quote: depressant
      And most importantly - about trust in a person, therefore, in his business. Subtle details that can cause alertness through an indirect association with the famous Lysenko figure - both useful and harmful.

      I constantly said this to my students. "You will not have a dossier on every person you need to manage. So look at the little things, how he walks, how he talks, how he opens a book and looks into it. All this will reveal a lot of information about him!" Well, and you are smart!
      1. +6
        25 June 2021 11: 07
        Vyacheslav Olegovich ... Please don't praise me. For some people, it hurts. This is when someone is praised in front of others. I will not even name the complex they suffer from. Such a complex - yes, for peaceful purposes. For example, after reading your article, go to the Internet, type materials on the topic of the article and, having studied them, express your own opinion or, at worst, provide additional information that expands the topic. Everything is very simple! But no, although one decent commentary takes a maximum of an hour. But on the accumulation of ill-will - a whole life. Let them do with their lives what they want, but the unkind, though not expressed, arrives at me with an electromagnetic wave - I feel it! wassat ))))
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 11: 19
          Quote: depressant
          arrives at me with an electromagnetic wave - I can feel it!

          This is bullshit! They write more negative messages to me than to you, but I don't feel anything.
      2. +3
        25 June 2021 11: 22
        And on the cues - to determine how to manage the forum?
        1. +2
          25 June 2021 11: 32
          Quote from Korsar4
          And on the cues - determine how to manage the forum

          Very easy, Sergey! Chosen "stupid", but ... "talkative" and in response to him "against the grain." Such a person needs to have the last word with him. Therefore, then ping-pong goes - you to him, he to you ... As soon as the arguments end, the person switches to "you", he thinks so offensively. In fact, this is an indicator that the client can be guided further, you just need to indicate his mentality and origin. Here comments are already pouring in as if from a cornucopia: "he himself is like that." Other "supporters", "neutrals" are connected, they write "I did not like how you answered ...". Well, you have to show your own virtue. And here you can develop a whole vector of "debates". That's all!
          1. +3
            25 June 2021 15: 04
            "A braggart does not need a knife" (c).
        2. +2
          25 June 2021 17: 21
          how to manage a forum?

          Quite simply - you just need to buy a website. Create a couple of hyip bots .. and manage your health Yes
          1. +3
            25 June 2021 21: 59
            “There are more interesting things than carrying suitcases with jewelry” (c).
    2. +4
      25 June 2021 16: 56
      Fomenko is obsessed with fame. The fact that he became an academician for work on topology is known only to mathematicians, and there are few of them. I have a suspicion that he is no longer involved in topology for 40 years. As for the accent - we also had students from Ukraine (then still Soviet), there were also from the villages, but no one had an accent. The specifics of the specialty. And Fomenko is probably looking for supporters among Svidomo. Vasily Lanovoy wrote in his memoirs that for a long time he could not get rid of the Ukrainian accent, but there is nowhere to go - once you play in the Vakhtangov theater, then a pure stage speech should be delivered.
      1. +5
        25 June 2021 17: 16
        Fomenko is obsessed, fans are sick, we have a subject for thought ...

        Maybe the heat will cool everyone? wassat )))
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 17: 21
          Yes, here we already have a haze, it has become not so hot. Recently I came back from an exam - I didn't even give a single deuce. I'm getting old. And only one top five. In Moscow, all exams are on-line, but in our village it is still the same as before.
          1. +5
            25 June 2021 18: 01
            We, in the suburbs, are the same: the sky is white, luminous, the air is stagnant. A breeze will pull a little, well, not even a breeze, but a small, barely noticeable turbulence will arise and freeze, and immediately other people's smells begin to hover in my Khrushchev, moving from apartment to apartment. And this impossible heat. They do not leave +35, only at 10 in the evening they drop to +31.
            In general, you can't live like that, you can only slowly evaporate)))
            1. +4
              25 June 2021 18: 05
              My village is also in the Moscow region, only on the other side of Moscow.
              1. +5
                25 June 2021 18: 35
                Ah, so we are geographic colleagues in misfortune! )))
                Think about it, what is actually happening? Some say that because of the Chinese reservoir, the Earth's axis tilted towards the Sun by an insignificant fraction of a degree relative to the ecliptic, and this was enough for our summer to become so hot, and winter - long and cold. And God forbid, the Chinese will still increase the mass of water in that reservoir. wassat )))
                1. +4
                  25 June 2021 18: 39
                  And if they still jump there, there will be a new flood! laughing
                  1. +5
                    25 June 2021 18: 59
                    But there is no need to submit such ideas, because they can do it! I happened to see a photo of a Chinese beach. There is no sea, only solid Chinese about a hundred meters - where there should be water. It looked as if they had forced her out into the ocean and followed her along the entire coast.
                2. +4
                  25 June 2021 22: 02
                  Which place is better than the Moscow region?
                  Remember the song from Cheburashka:

                  “And in the suburbs there are bream” (c).
                  1. +5
                    25 June 2021 23: 09
                    Bream is not only a valuable dry fish intended to arouse excessive thirst for beer consumers, but also a way to deal with a drinking companion who stuck a full bottle under the table.
                    1. +3
                      25 June 2021 23: 30
                      And there is also a version that hazel is a derivative of the word "bream".
                      1. +5
                        25 June 2021 23: 53
                        Probably, in an ancient era, about which modern biologists have little idea, full-weight bream ripened on this plant as fruits. With some patience of the surrounding residents, they salted out in the salty rain, dried up in the meager autumn sun, and then were ready for use.
                      2. +3
                        26 June 2021 05: 07
                        Beautiful version. Rivers of milk, acidic banks.

                        And so in a leaf of hazel they found a resemblance to a bream.
                      3. +2
                        26 June 2021 07: 37
                        Residual memory of humanity.
                      4. +3
                        26 June 2021 10: 32
                        And there is also a version that hazel is a derivative of the word "bream".

                        good
                        Estessno, and it was in Italy, where Russians lived (Etruscans are Russians)
                      5. +1
                        26 June 2021 11: 48
                        Alas. The Latin name - Corylus avellana - is just in honor of the Italian city of Avellano.
                    2. +3
                      26 June 2021 10: 31
                      Bream is not only a valuable fish

                      Rabbits are not only valuable fur ...
                      1. +4
                        26 June 2021 11: 35
                        About rabbits - this is unforgettable!)))
                        She relied on this reminiscence when she described the properties of the original hazel wassat )))
          2. +3
            25 June 2021 22: 00
            And with us - in the old way. What pleases.
            More haze. The mood is better.
            1. +3
              25 June 2021 23: 12
              More haze. The mood is better.


              Smoke more. The mood is worse.

              By the way, he is already sipping from somewhere.
              1. +3
                25 June 2021 23: 31
                The more days without rain, the higher the danger of forest fires.
                1. +4
                  25 June 2021 23: 47
                  But the soil is still saturated with moisture - so much of it came in winter and spring. Therefore, the leaves on the trees still sparkle in the sun. If only this brilliance did not become a consequence of the anomalous activity of the sun itself, which is gaining strength. Something like deceiving the usual notions. The plum is under the window - it dries up!
                  1. +3
                    25 June 2021 23: 54
                    Moisture saturation - very good.
                    1. +4
                      26 June 2021 00: 05
                      Well, you know, depending on what to feed. Moisture-laden bladder is not very comfortable to wear in an area not abundant in toilets. And human blood should not be water.
                      1. +3
                        26 June 2021 05: 12
                        It's easier for men.
                        And in the forest, such problems do not arise.
                      2. +3
                        26 June 2021 07: 35
                        A person has a lot of problems. Women have more of them.
                      3. +3
                        26 June 2021 09: 37
                        Can not argue. Therefore, they usually live longer.
                      4. +2
                        26 June 2021 11: 24
                        Aha wassat )))
                        Try to die, when there are a lot of unresolved problems, and someone insists: "What is it that started to die? Let's decide! And then what!"
                      5. +2
                        26 June 2021 11: 43
                        You see - what a motivation.
                      6. +1
                        26 June 2021 12: 33
                        See - I see. But, in addition to the organs of zenia, I also have other senses that produce laziness, relaxation and very reasonable considerations that justify these states, as well as excessive caution and rationality, hammering in the crown: you cannot overcome the laziness of others with your activity!
    3. +3
      26 June 2021 02: 25
      The person speaks with a very strong South Russian accent. I have never seen such an accent in the Kuban. Visiting Ukraine - too

      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, the South Russian accent is not only Ukraine and Kuban. In 1969. we moved from near Pyatigorsk to Ivanovo, the father-pilot was transferred to the VTA "Severny" airfield. How much my first teacher Sofia Ivanovna fought with me as a first-grader in Ivanovo! Well, I just could not read a simple poem by A. Fet:
      The sky is drawn with swift wings
      At the pond, a gloomy verba looks into the water

      And all the time I got it -verbA. Well, and accordingly - churches, carrots, go. Yes, just the yanking was worth it smile
      1. +2
        26 June 2021 05: 13
        Good story!
      2. 0
        26 June 2021 07: 52
        And yet ... Though it’s giggly, even tsykai, it is not a sign of Fomenko, in the Kuban it is a sign of ancestors who migrated to the Kuban outback from Ukraine. Have such people still remained unconverted there? I watched a lot of videos about my grandmother's village. Old people speak pure Russian, wordy, figuratively - Cossacks!
        1. +4
          26 June 2021 08: 02
          it is a sign of ancestors who migrated to the Kuban outback from Ukraine

          The Terek Cossacks are ancient Zaporizhzhya and especially the Kuban Cossacks, and they have absolutely no ethnic relation to them, all the more so to the ancestors-migrants from Ukraine mentioned by you. But there is a dialect. And so they said in Russia not only here, but also in the Kuban, and on the Don, and in the Urals and near Orenburg. And in many non-Cossack Russian regions. Now this is already rare. But in the 60s and 70s it was still common
          1. +2
            26 June 2021 10: 41
            But there is a dialect. And so they said in Russia, not only here, but also in the Kuban, and in the Don, and in the Urals and near Orenburg.

            Himself from there, however, lived in a military town (13 town), but visited the vicinity. In the Cossack settlement Vorstadt, which adjoins the city and entered it since 1917, in the 60s there were no differences from the city dialect at all (although I did not communicate with the old people), in Byrd (Pugachev's headquarters during the siege of the city) I did not notice anything, and in Nizhinka (now there is an airport nearby, in addition, this is the birthplace of the All-Russian matchmaker Larisa Guzeeva) - there are also no differences. Probably, only very old people, who were then strongly over 70, had a dialect.
        2. +3
          26 June 2021 08: 17
          Old people speak pure Russian, wordy, figuratively - Cossacks!

          The stanitsa stanitsa is different, there are stanitsa where they speak pure Russian, and some more with Ukrainian shades. They resettled to the Kuban not only the Cossacks from the Poltava region, the Chernigov region, but also from the Don. After the Cossacks did not justify the trust of Catherine II in protecting the borders of the state due to their indiscipline, the Don Cossacks were sent there. Well, I will add an interesting fact, in the villages with the Russian population there was no "Holodomor", but with the Ukrainian population, the innate Ukrainian mentality played to outwit everyone. And now the name of such "local" as cubanoids is popular. Last year I myself spent almost a month in the village of Starotitarovskaya on a business trip and did not hear the Ukrainian dialect.
          1. +2
            26 June 2021 08: 34
            "Cubanoids" ...
            Fragmentation sign. It's like Zamostyanskie. Oh, time! ... Oh, tribe! ...
  13. +1
    25 June 2021 11: 33
    Good day. Just now there was a minute to write. An amazing human talent. Can you name a lot of people to independently master so many languages ​​and become an academician at the age of 16?
    He was probably very attached to his older brother. How else to explain what he emphasized: Champelien Jr.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, do you know: was he happy in family life?
    1. +4
      25 June 2021 13: 12
      Quote: Astra wild2
      Vyacheslav Olegovich, do you know: was he happy in family life?

      I do not know. I was never interested in this ...
      1. +2
        25 June 2021 16: 58
        In the biography of the Champollions brothers, published by their son and nephew Aimé, it is described as follows:
        Champollion was married to Rosine Blanc, they had one daughter, Zoraid Heronnet-Champollion. Despite the fact that he was a happy family man, especially adoring his daughter, Champollion often moved away from his family for months or even years. Known for his many years of "dismissal" by the Italian poet Angelica Palli, to whom he often traveled to Italy, actually living in two houses

        Let's not condemn him - here everyone decides for himself how he is best
  14. +1
    25 June 2021 11: 49
    At school I heard about a girl at 4,5 who learned to read. The mother read out loud to the elders, and she listened. She could read books upside down. As I looked into the book, I learned to read and write.
  15. +1
    25 June 2021 11: 53
    Champollion's "Life", like the whole genre, is an IQ test
  16. +8
    25 June 2021 12: 37
    The photograph in the article presents the mathematical "Rind's Papyrus" ...

    Here was such an outstanding person - Demetrios of Phaler, born between 354 and 348 AD. e. And, like most of these people, he was quarrelsome. In 297 BC. e. Pharaoh Ptolemy persuaded him to settle in Alexandria, that Demetrios, who was experiencing another collapse of his political career in Athens at that time, did - he settled, immediately became famous as a patron of sciences and arts and, taking advantage of the location of the pharaoh, urgently founded a library. Ptolemy I died in 283 BC. e., and his son Ptolemy II sent the scandalous Demetrios to the Egyptian city of Busiris. There Demetrios died of a poisonous snakebite, but the Alexandrian library already existed and lived its own life.
    Over the next centuries, many librarians, whose list is known, expanded the collection, adding parchments, papyri and even, according to legend, printed books. Thus, the library contained absolutely invaluable documents. Surprisingly, she began to have enemies, mostly in Rome. After all, a library of this magnitude is not just a collection of texts, but a collection of collaborating scientists, that is, people who are closer to the truth are much more than any Roman politician.

    When Caesar arrived in Alexandria, there were at least seven hundred thousand manuscripts in the library. Among them were extremely rare, extremely valuable Indian manuscripts, of which not a trace remained. As for the scrolls, there were five hundred thirty-two thousand eight hundred before the destruction of the library began. It is known that there were departments that could be called "Mathematical Sciences" and "Natural Sciences". There was also a common directory, which was also destroyed.
    Caesar is credited with starting the destruction of the library. Allegedly, he took some of the books for himself, others burned. Until now, no one can say for sure what happened then. And two thousand years after the death of Julius Caesar, he still has supporters who claim that some of the books intended for export to Rome were burned in a port warehouse set on fire by angry locals.

    The Library of Alexandria has been destroyed for a thousand years! Even the Arabs took part in this business.

    Has the Rinda Papyrus, an ancient Egyptian textbook on arithmetic and geometry from the 1985th dynasty of the Middle Kingdom (1795-33 BC), rewritten in the 1550rd year of the reign of King Apopi (c. XNUMX BC) visited the Library of Alexandria? .) by a scribe named Ahmes on a papyrus scroll? No, this is unlikely, there were the same lists. And there - who knows!
    The Ahmes (Rinda) papyrus was discovered in 1858 in Thebes and named after Alexander Henry Reind, an antiquarian who acquired the papyrus in 1858 in Egypt itself, in Luxor. It is believed that the scroll was apparently found during illegal excavations at or near the Ramesseum.
    In 1887, the papyrus was deciphered, translated and published by G. Robinson and K. Shute. Yes, most of the manuscript is now in the British Museum. It consists of two parts: BM 10057 (32 cm × 295,5 cm) and BM 10058 (32 cm × 199,5 cm). Between them there should be a piece of about 18 cm long that has been lost. However, some fragments that partially fill this gap were discovered in 1922 in the museum of the New York Historical Society.

    Now imagine how much scientific knowledge, some of which was already at the level of the 17th - 19th centuries, gradually perished and perished in the Alexandria Library.
  17. +1
    26 June 2021 05: 49
    Quote: Bar1
    Quote: Astra wild2
    Colleague Bar, do you remember who said that they were not enthusiastic about Fomenko?


    who spoke?

    Yes, you yourself: "I haven't read Fomenko for a long time ..... there is nothing to fool people into their heads"
  18. 0
    30 July 2021 20: 47
    "However, he endured all this, overcame, and already in 1809 he returned to Grenoble as a professor of history, having received this title at the age of 18!"

    Both then and now in France, teachers of the gymnasium were also called professors.