Turkish forces use artillery to strike at SAA in Idlib

From Syria, there are reports of rising tensions in the south-east of Idlib province. Some time ago, illegal armed groups tried to regroup in the area of ​​the settlement of Al-Bara and start moving in the direction of Maaret al-Nuuman. However, the plans of the militants were violated by the forces of government troops. But now, as it turns out, help has come to the militants. And it is provided by the Turkish military contingent, which in Idlib has been present at the so-called "observation posts" for many years.

According to the latest reports, Turkish forces are using artillery, shelling the positions of the Syrian government army in several directions at once. The blows were inflicted on Serakib, Maaret-an-Nuuman, Kafr-Batikhe and others.

The most massive artillery shelling of the Turkish forces was carried out on the aforementioned city of Serakib, which is located at a key road junction in the immediate vicinity of the demarcation line. The attacks targeted the western parts of the city, as well as the section leading to the M5 motorway, which connects Idlib with Hama, Homs and Damascus.

In turn, the pro-Turkish militants, actually hiding behind Turkish observation posts, used barreled artillery to strike at the SAA troops in the area of ​​the city of Khan al-Sabil, which is located at a considerable distance from the demarcation line.

Earlier, the Turkish president said that he wishes prosperity to neighboring Syria and the entire Syrian people.

Comments

[Gardamir]

Well, which partner is the partner?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Gardamir

Well, which partner is the partner?

Waiting for the "miss" of our videoconferencing. To mix with the ground the position of the Turkish artillery in Idlib. With the help of unidentified drones, for example ...

[URAL72]

In turn, the pro-Turkish militants, actually hiding behind Turkish observation posts, used barreled artillery to strike at the SAA troops in the area of ​​the city of Khan-al-Sabil "

As I understand it, the fire is not fired by the Turkish army, but by the "pro-Turkish forces" hiding behind posts

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: URAL72

As I understand it, the fire is not fired by the Turkish army, but by the "pro-Turkish forces" hiding behind posts

Judging by the article, the fire was opened by both Turkish troops and pro-Turkish militants. Depending on the territory and direction of the strike. There is still aviation and UAVs to use and in general there will be a full-scale war. But judging by the clear sky, the Russian Aerospace Forces are tightly holding Erdogan in this direction for one place.

[Bykov.]

After Karabakh, the Sultan got a little crazy. Thinks he keeps God by the beard?

[vegan]

And before Karabakh you were quiet? Kurdistan, Libya, Idlib ...
"Something has become of my memory ..."

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Bulls.

After Karabakh, the Sultan got a little crazy.

In general, Erdogansky is weird - they lost to Italy and Wales (moreover, yesterday in Baku in front of him), and the batch again went to Syria. Some kind of Infantile ...

[Zaurbek]

You can't use MLRS anymore ... you need to use more accurate systems. The presence in some battle formations of soldiers - proxy bandits ... is the reality of the latest local conflicts. Whoever has such means moves on. They need an American approach with reconnaissance, wiretapping and UAVs with weapons "hanging" around the clock. And all this nudity Su35S, providing a "no-fly zone" over Idlib and the border with Turkey.

[Lycan]

Quote: Zaurbek

American approach

I know one very effective "American approach" (or rather British-American):
https://www.dw.com/ru/fakty-i-mify-o-bombardirovkah-dresdena/a-52352495

[Zaurbek]

If the Russian Federation is ready for a conflict with the Turks ... then yes. But it seems to me that we do not need it. Therefore, it is necessary to "cut out" the bandits .... and put the Turks themselves in an awkward position in front of their PROXY ........ and the absence of aviation (Turkish) over Idlib will make their thoughts easier.

[Rageee]

Turkish aviation may well operate in Idlib and the surrounding area from its airspace, without entering the Syrian one. It's just that there are some agreements, apparently, and the Turks are not using their main combat aircraft against the Assadis.

[Zaurbek]

It will not be able to ......... there are no such goals ... they are quite coping with air defense issues

[Rageee]

The fact of the matter is that the Turks, as a rule, do not throw cast iron, they even use analogs of the American JDAMOV and Paveway against the Kurds, and besides them they also have controlled gliding bombs, which they plan for tens of kilometers. and more .. and from the border of Turkey to the same Sarrakib is not more than 50 km, and even less to Idlib itself.

by the way, the Turks have made their own analogue of the American SDB (GBU-39) and it is already flying 100 km ..

[Zaurbek]

There are no stationary objects in the SAA in Idlib .... who will they bomb there? And if the videoconferencing will arrange a zone without flights there ... then no one there will throw anything there

[Rageee]

so they not only work on stationary, some of these ammunition can hit moving targets this time. Secondly, even these bombs hitting stationary targets will be enough to cover artillery positions and places of concentration of troops and equipment of the Assadites.
I wonder how the VKS will arrange a no-fly zone for the Turks in their own airspace?)
In Syrian, the Turks do not fly anyway. They wounded the same Assad Su-24s with their F-16s while in Turkish airspace ..
So I think there is some kind of agreement between Ankara and Moscow so that Turkish f-16s do not work on the Assadites and do not fly into Syrian airspace unnecessarily. And the Turks have the opportunity to kill the Assadites without flying into the Syrian airspace.

[Zaurbek]

Idlib is not the territory of Turkey .... and after the shooting down of Su24m ... they staged it. although it was necessary to burn around the airfield

[Rageee]

Idlib is the territory that borders Turkey, and where the Turkomans live. The Syrian civil war directly affected Turkey, which had to host millions of Syrian refugees, and foreign armies and other Kurdish armed groups began to accumulate near its southeastern borders. It is very naive to think that with such a development of events, the Turks would sit silently on the sidelines, when the Americans, Russians, Iranians rule in Syria, who do not even border on this very Syria ... Therefore, yes, the Turkish army is now sitting in Idlib and does not give the Assadis and their curators in the person of Iran and Russia to cleanse this territory from the population hostile to Assad. For the Turks do not smile to receive another couple of hundred thousand refugees, to the couple of million who are already sitting there.

And what did Turkey do there after the shooting down of the Su-24M, is it possible in more detail? Onishchenko suddenly discovered that Turkish tomatoes are rotten, and Turkish beaches are dangerous for recreation?) Yes, there was a case ..
well, they would zhahnuli at the airfield, and then they could forget about the passage through the straits, and the Turks could well zhahnul in response to Khmeimim, and then the conflict would get out of control, no one needed this, including Russia, therefore everything was limited to economic sanctions ..

[Zaurbek]

They did not arrange anything .... Su35 and Su30 were in the air ... Su24 was bombed under cover, the Turks were not around either. But the Turks did not really answer for the downed plane.
And for good, an OTRK ..... with a cluster warhead was supposed to shoot at the airfield with the F16.

[Rageee]

I don't understand, but before that, supposedly, the Turks flew in the Syrian airspace and bombed the Assadites?) that before the shooting down of the Su-24, that after the Turks did not fly there. In this regard, nothing has changed much.

[Zaurbek]

They stopped flying and near

[Rageee]

and Russian planes stopped flying into Turkish airspace ... but yes - the Turks did not want escalation, so they did not once again irritate Russia, which was, as it were, a victim in this situation ..

[Zaurbek]

I agree ..... but they added whoever they wanted. But it was necessary to zhahnat on the airfield.

[Lycan]

Quote: Zaurbek

If the Russian Federation is ready for a conflict with the Turks ... then yes

Second "American Approach":
https://politikus.ru/events/87658-pentagon-opyat-promahnulsya-vvs-ssha-sluchayno-razbombili-soyuznikov.html
Please pay attention to the word "accidentally" in the title of this article.

[Marachuh]

Never mind, ours will again accidentally drop something heavy on their checkpoint and Erdogan will fly to Moscow again.

[A. Privalov]

An earnest request to those present: do not be distracted by Erdogan, do not pay attention to the massive artillery shelling, do not relax, but continue to drive against Israel.

I would be very grateful for any possible help in creating such a squabble that is so familiar to VO and dear to my heart.
Thank you in advance!

[vegan]

Dear A. Privalov, an urgent request to you, for the sake of better preserving your health, to stop trying to reach out to the minds of hurray-patriots and destroy their black-and-white idea of ​​our world. After all, for them all other colors are associated exclusively with their worst phobia - the rainbow.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: A. Privalov

do not pay attention to the massive artillery shelling, do not relax, but continue to drive on Israel.

And what to drive against Israel, he has enough of his worries even without "rut".

[kapitan92]

Quote: tihonmarine

And what to drive against Israel, he has enough of his worries even without "rut".

Yes, they get bored when they "forget" about Israel.
Jews sir!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: kapitan92

Yes, they get bored when they "forget" about Israel.
Jews sir!

Yes, the Jews can only be envied, in 1948 it was a scanty territorial Jewish entity, only similar to the country. And now it is a self-sufficient state in the world, with a powerful economy, a strong army, and keeps the entire Arab East in check.

[kapitan92]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, Jews can only be envied,

You see, Mr. Privalov's goal has been achieved. Now, instead of Idlib, we will discuss how good it is in Israel!

[knn54]

-A .. Privalov; continue to drive to Israel.
The riot police dispersed the action of masochists. BOTH sides got a unique pleasure.
And Erdogan, apparently, got the go-ahead for Syria ... from Biden.

[d1975]

Don't give it a fever! Be in the subject - get it, it will not rust! In the meantime, just breathe, breathe deeper!)))))

[Zaurbek]

This is from the series "Very likely" in relation to the Russian Federation ...... it's time to get used to it. And take it for granted that Israel has already for a generation or two moved away from repatriates-emigrants from the USSR and connections are becoming less and less. Although the anti-Israeli agitation is also becoming less (due to the departure of the Arabists from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who have made a career on this) ... and the Arabs no longer evoke sympathy, as in the USSR.

And Turkey is at the same distance from Israel as from the Russian Federation .... and Turkey is armed and nourished not by the Russian Federation, but by NATO ... and the US is holding TNW there.

[APASUS]

Quote: A. Privalov

do not pay attention to the massive artillery shelling, do not relax, but continue to drive on Israel

As they say, throw on the fan ................

[Avior]

not to relax, but to continue to drive on Israel.

Should people be torn apart, or what? :)))
So many things were thrown, here you and Tokyo, and Mariupol, and Geneva, Erdogan again.
So in turn, please, for the familiar atmosphere :))))

[sabakina]

Quote: A. Privalov

I would be very grateful for any possible help in creating such a squabble that is so familiar to VO and dear to my heart.
Thank you in advance!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: A. Privalov

We kindly ask those present:

Runners are still very useful, if only because thanks to them, more than one myth has already been destroyed.
And now we have a clear example of the fact that among the Jews (?) There are very narrow-minded individuals.

[Klingon]

Borzeet Edukhan, maybe it's enough to turn a blind eye to all this ??

[vegan]

Why only through your fingers? For example, through tomatoes, through Antalya, through the Turkish Stream, through the Akkuyu NPP, through Karabakh, through Libya, etc.

[Klingon]

And these were the very "fingers"

[vegan]

Uh, dear man, fingers, then everyone needs them. After all, if we chop off Erdogad's finger (Idlib), then this bastard, because of the pain caused to him, may also bite off some finger (Turkish Stream, straits ...), or at least pinch it. And this, you see, is an unacceptable feeling.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: vegan

if we chop off Erdogad's finger (Idlib)

This is physically impossible. The Turkish army has dug in in Idlib. The outbreak of hostilities will mean a declaration of war on Turkey. In this case, the so-called SAR army and our expeditionary corps will be defeated in less than a month. The balance of forces in the Middle East, Transcaucasia, the Black Sea is in Turkey's favor, and the difference is multiple. However, Turkey won't get off easy either.
Nobody needs the new Rusko-Turkish, therefore, hybrid wars continue.

[K-50]

Quote: vegan

can we bite off some finger (Turkish stream, straits ...), or at least pinch it.

And what will he do with the straits? will it fill them up?
And who will let him?
The Turk Pasha can howl and bark as much as he wants, but something weighty with the straits is unlikely, too small, however.

[Rageee]

if Turkey declares martial law and closes the straits - what exactly will Russia do?)

[K-50]

Quote: Rageee

if Turkey declares martial law and closes the straits - what exactly will Russia do?)

You can't just declare martial law. I need a reason. If this happens, the losses for the Turks will be tens of billions of dollars, because not only Russia uses the straits. if the ban is only for Russia, then this is a declaration of war, with all the ensuing consequences for Turkey as a country of residence of some population. Former, coals can hardly be called a population.

[Rageee]

well, they will not just close them, but if Assad and his supporting Russia start an aggression against the Turkish army (which is what the commentators are calling for), and this is a more than justified reason to cover the straits, given that it is through these very TURKISH straits that it goes the main supply for Assad's warriors and Russian bases in Syria.
What other losses? you do not confuse the straits with the Suez Canal? as far as I know, the treasury of Turkey gets zero from the donut from the use of its straits by foreign countries ..
excerpt from the Montreux convention:

In the event of Turkey's participation in the war, as well as if Turkey considers that it is directly threatened by war, it is given the right to authorize or prohibit the passage of any military ships through the straits.

also

The International Straits Commission was abolished, allowing the full resumption of Turkish military control over the straits and the redistribution of the Dardanelles. Turkey was authorized to close the straits to all foreign warships in wartime or when it was threatened with aggression. It was also allowed to refuse transit from merchant ships belonging to countries at war with Turkey. The convention abolished the international commission on the straits provided for by the Lausanne Convention and transferred its functions to the Turkish government.

Do you know what this is about? if Russia, supporting the Assadites, will threaten the Turks and enter into a confrontation with Turkey, then the latter, even under the convention, have every right to close the straits for Russian military ships.

with all the ensuing consequences for Turkey as a country of residence of some population. Former, coals can hardly be called a population

Well, what kind of kindergarten is a chamomile, supposedly if the Turks close the straits then Russia will deal a nuclear strike on them?) it would be suicide for Russia as a state with all the consequences ..

[Klingon]

Let's do a new one against. Gromyko at one time hinted

[vegan]

Quote: Klingon

Let's make a new strait.

Between Moscow and Voronezh?

[Zaurbek]

Black and White are not here ... these are the same brakes for Turkey. There is another example of cooperation: the Russian Federation is the largest exporter of wheat ... and Turkey is the world's largest exporter of flour ... But they have gone too far with nuclear power plants.

[vegan]

Quote: Zaurbek

Black and White are not here ... these are the same brakes for Turkey

Which is what I tried to convey in my next comment.

.But with the nuclear power plant - went too far

That's putting it mildly

[Sergey Sfiedu]

The Turks themselves are consistently reducing gas purchases in the Russian Federation.

[Zaurbek]

These are rumors ..... They are increasing purchases through Azerbaijan ..... and Azerbaijan is increasing from Gazprom. Plus, transit through Turkey is increasing.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Klingon

Borzeet Edukhan, maybe it's enough to turn a blind eye to all this ??

Ah, the Jews do not scramble by air strikes on Syria (Latakia).?
Let us remind you that the Russian Khmeimim airbase is located in Latakia.
Maybe it's enough to turn a blind eye to it all?

[Klingon]

What do the Jews have to do with it? About the Jews is a separate question and we should talk about Jewish attacks separately. Here we are talking about the Turks. And there Bibi for some reason to Pu at one time often frequent on weekends. Here you are from local forum Jews and ask Professor or Voyaka how much is a hundred scallops

[Rageee]

Assad is afraid of Jews. Knows that if he rock the boat against Israel, then he will skiff)
but the Turks are politically weaker than the Jews, and the States will not stand up for them like a mountain for Israel, so they can already be bullied and snapped at, and Russia will support, in contrast to the graters with Israel, where all support ends with an expression of concern )
in general, everything is as usual, whoever has more strength is to the right

[K-50]

Turkish forces use artillery, shelling the positions of the Syrian government army in several directions at once. Earlier, the Turkish president said that he wishes prosperity to neighboring Syria and the entire Syrian people.

Well, apparently "prosperity" as a term has a different meaning for the Turks, that is why they are Turks.
Prosperity from the word flowers and bloom, but there are flowers in cemeteries too. Maybe the Turk Pasha meant it?

[Vladimir61]

We are there, constantly experiencing something, experiencing something. There are modern means of artillery reconnaissance, why should the Syrians not be given an answer with a preliminary fixation of both the shelling itself and the identified positions? Arrived, get an answer. All claims are not related to the weapons, but to the identified and suppressed by counter-battery fire a violator of the existing agreements. What do we allow to play with one goal all the time?

[rotmistr60]

And from Erdogan, who uninvitedly climbed into Syria and under the guise of deciding exclusively his own affairs, someone was expecting something else? Erdogan has been carrying for a long time and not only in Syria. The article does not say about the retaliatory strike of the Syrian army, or was it not?

[Tzar]

Quote: rotmistr60

The article does not say about the retaliatory strike of the Syrian army, or was it not?

So the Turkish strike is most likely itself a response to the shelling of Idlib by the SAA and the elimination of the HTS Speaker and his retinue last week. He was expected and, in theory, the Syrians should sit out in the bunkers and start choosing the next target.

[Rageee]

The VKS is bombing Idlib from the air, and the militants snap back, routine ...