"Imminent Radiation Threat": French Operator Claims a "Difficult Situation" at China's Newest Taishan Nuclear Power Plant

American media publish materials that report a "difficult situation" at one of China's nuclear power plants. The reports, referring to the French operator company, speak of "an imminent radiation threat." This French company participated in the construction of the Taishan nuclear power plant in Guangdong province.

CNN reports that American experts "have spent the entire last week evaluating the recent Framatome report."

In the documents, the Chinese side is accused of violating the norms of operation of the Taishan nuclear power plant.

From the material:

Chinese security agencies are raising additional limits on unwanted background radiation levels at Taishan Station itself, as well as outside its perimeter. They do this in order to avoid stopping the operation of the nuclear power plant. This is a serious concern. The situation at nuclear power plants is therefore difficult.

The following fact is noteworthy: the French company Framatome unilaterally appealed to the US administration to influence Chinese decisions in terms of assessing risks at nuclear power plants.

At the moment, as the company notes, there is a leak and an increase in the background radiation. But the Chinese side, instead of solving the problem, raised the level of the maximum permissible radiation background, continuing to operate the nuclear power plant as usual.

This issue is reportedly attended by representatives of the US National Security Council. A meeting was held during which the Director of the Arms Control Program, Mallory Stewart, spoke.
It is known that the Biden administration discussed the statement of the French operator of the Chinese nuclear power plant with representatives of the French government.

For reference: Taishan NPP is one of the newest plants in China. The Taishan NPP has two power units with PWR reactors. The capacity of each is 1750 MW. The power units were commissioned in 2018 and 2019, respectively.

Comments

[Revolver]

Well, at least not a virus, they won't spread it all over the ball.

[oleg-gr]

The watchmen built a nuclear power plant, handed it over to the Chinese and are now screaming at the whole world about poor-quality operation? Where is the field supervision? Or is it how they taught it, and is it exploited? Are they afraid of new Chernobyl or Fukushima?

[Reviews]

Quote: oleg-gr

The watchmen built a nuclear power plant, handed it over to the Chinese for operation and are now screaming at the whole world about poor-quality operation?

Are the Chinese such smart operators?

Where is the field supervision?

And what is it - just so obligatory or, all the same, on demand?

[Shurik70]

Well, now the French will not see new contracts for the construction of nuclear power plants.
It is correct. After Chernobyl, it is Russian nuclear power plants that are being built with foolproof protection
So the Russians should be asked for help in construction.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Shurik70

Well, now the French will not see new contracts for the construction of nuclear power plants.
It is correct. After Chernobyl, it is Russian nuclear power plants that are being built with foolproof protection
So the Russians should be asked for help in construction.

In addition to protection from the fool, there must be high-quality equipment and adherence to construction technology, for example, special types of concrete and not anyhow

[Revolver]

Quote: oleg-gr

Хknapsacks built a nuclear power plant, handed it over to the Chinese for operation and are now screaming at the whole world about poor-quality operation?

Foolishness can be broken and horseradish. Or, which is the same thing, technology in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron.

Quote: oleg-gr

Where is the field supervision?

Or maybe the Chinese have tightened a couple of adjusting screws there to increase the plutonium yield, and with Фknapsacks did not agree on this.

[Usher]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: oleg-gr

Хknapsacks built a nuclear power plant, handed it over to the Chinese for operation and are now screaming at the whole world about poor-quality operation?

Foolishness can be broken and horseradish. Or, which is the same thing, technology in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron.

Quote: oleg-gr

Where is the field supervision?

Or maybe the Chinese have tightened a couple of adjusting screws there to increase the plutonium yield, and with Фknapsacks did not agree on this.

Or maybe not. What is the point of assuming and blaming if you do not know the truth?

[Anachoret]

They will spread it as "another threat from China", hiding curvature or deliberate provocation on the French side) in any case, China's multi-vector nature in this matter will be reduced in the choice of contractors))

[xorek]

Quote: Anchorite

They will spread it as "another threat from China", hiding curvature or deliberate provocation on the French side) in any case, China's multi-vector nature in this matter will be reduced in the choice of contractors))

Howl will raise it for sure you marked .. In vain the Chinese contacted the French.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Nagan

Well, at least not a virus, they won't spread it all over the ball.

The nuclear power plant in the south of the PRC is located not we will suffer, but Vietnam ...

[anclevalico]

It depends on how it bangs. You can dirtied the whole ball. But the Far East is enough for us. Japan and Mongolia can become uninhabitable, for example. Is it a little or a lot?

[tralflot1832]

Is it the Chinese to blame, not the French, that the units do not pull on radiation safety?

[donavi49]

These are French reactors EPR-1750 from Areva with 1650-1670 feeding into the grid - the most powerful in the world available for construction today.

[Uncle lee]

This French company participated in the construction of the Taishan nuclear power plant.

Here you go ! And who would have thought!

[Egoza]

Quote: donavi49

These are French reactors EPR-1750 from Areva with 1650-1670 feeding into the grid - the most powerful in the world available for construction today.

I do not argue. But the question is, how did the French company build? What about the quality of construction? Or did they assume that they were cheating, and now they are trying to relieve themselves of responsibility in advance?

[NIKN]

Quote: Egoza

And now they are trying to relieve themselves of responsibility in advance?

Well, or they are not alone, like they put all their strength ...

The French company Framatome has unilaterally approached the US administration to influence Chinese decisions in terms of risk assessment at nuclear power plants.

They decided that not many will come to America, they are in this situation at ease, as they were born there. :))
And why does not China present it to the French? It seems that they are not fools .... as it is not very clear, where it was presented as a sensation and everything, in more detail, otherwise it is not clear much. Why USA? There is the IAEA ... Maybe this is an order from the United States, to find a reason to run into China.

[Egoza]

Quote: NIKNN

Maybe this is an order from the USA, to find a reason to run into China

Or just do something nasty in connection with the anniversary of the CCP. It hurts in time to hear the news

[Revolver]

Quote: Egoza

But the question is, how did the French company build?

All other clients do not flow, but the Chinese do. And why would?

[CAT BAIYUN]

But the question is, how did the French company build?

And the French built disgusting. The deadlines to the right for two or three years, exceeding the estimate by three times (if I am not mistaken), in fact the Chinese "finished" a bunch of equipment on their own. And, by the way, "Areva" no longer exists. After bankruptcy and reorganization with the help of state funds, this office is now called "Arano" ....
But, as for me, the French have no trust in principle. He is still unable to finish his Flammanville nuclear power plant. The song is the same: the timing is right, the estimate is growing.
among the undisputed leaders - ROSATOM. VVR1200 - like a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Simple, fast, reliable. With a full cycle - from uranium mining and enrichment to the manufacture of fuel rods and disposal of spent nuclear fuel.
And I am tormented by the question - why the devil are the French complaining to the states? There is the IAEA. A very specialized and VERY respected organization.
So it looks like another duck for "hitting" the Chinese. Let's see what the IAEA says.

[sabakina]

The most powerful in the world does not mean the most reliable in the world. The era of France, as the advanced state of Europe, ended with "adventures Gulliver Napoleon Bonaparte ".

[mitroha]

Quote: donavi49

These are French reactors EPR-1750 from Areva with 1650-1670 feeding into the grid - the most powerful in the world available for construction today.

And the most luminous, apparently.

[Charik]

better less, but more reliable, maybe BN should have been taken, although the Chinese need all this to copy.

[knn54]

Something Russian VVER-1200 reactors in China have no problems.
And the reactors indicated in the article (perhaps I am mistaken) of the French-Chinese "design".
China is cooperating with the French because they have transferred documentation, technology and licenses.
Rosatom does not transfer any critical nuclear technologies. Russia builds everything itself or does not do it at all - you will not wait for the drawings.
The reason for the situation may be a "bookmark" in the software.

[donavi49]

It also sells. Rather, it is building a whole industry for the Chinese on fast neutrons.

Experimental built. Now the CFR-600 is being built already in China, but on the basis of the newest BN-1200 under construction. The plan is to launch the CFR-600 before the Russian reactor (23-24 years), and by the 30th year to build the first commercial reactor, the world's first commercial BN reactor CFR-1200.

TVEL is building a separate production facility for in-line production of fuel assemblies. At the same time, if BN CFR-600 and CFR-1200 show results, China plans to build more than 10 reactors (Russia 1) by the 40th year.

[standan]

CFR-600, also known as the Xiapu Fast Reactor Demonstration Project, is part of China's plan to establish a closed nuclear fuel cycle in the country.

The construction of power unit No. 1 began at the end of 2017. The fuel will be supplied by TVEL Fuel Company of Rosatom in accordance with the agreement signed in 2019. TVEL has signed a contract with CNLY, which is part of the China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC).

CNNC announced that construction of the second block began on December 27, adding that excavation work on the site had begun exactly one year earlier. Since then, “scale of engineering work, tight schedule, construction difficulties and other adverse conditions” have been overcome to achieve the planned goal, the report said.

“All builders will continue to work hard on the Fast Reactor Demonstration Project to fulfill the [Communist] Party’s historic mission of making China an even greater nuclear industrial power!” The company said in a statement.

Chinese research and development of fast reactors began in 1964. The 65 MW fast neutron reactor - China Experimental Fast Reactor (CEFR) - was designed by 2003 and built near Beijing by the Russian OKBM. Afrikantov in cooperation with OKB GIDROPRESS, NIKIET and the Kurchatov Institute. CEFR-1 reached its first criticality in July 2010, can generate 20 MW and was connected to the grid in July 2011. The core is 45 cm high and contains 150 kg of plutonium (98 kg of plutonium-239). The thermal reactivity and power reactivity of the fast reactor in this project are negative.

The CFR-600 Demonstration Fast Reactors (CDFRs) are the next step in the China Atomic Energy Institute (CIAE) program. The Xiapu-1 reactor is expected to be online in 2023. The reactors will have 1500 MW thermal and 600 MW electrical power, with a thermal efficiency of 41%, using MOX fuel with a burnup of 100 GW · day / t and with two sodium coolant circuits producing steam with a temperature of 480 ° C. In the future, the fuel will be metallic with a burnup of 100-120 GW · day / t. The reproduction rate is about 1,1, the estimated service life is 40 years. Fast reactors are designed with active and passive shutdown and passive residual heat removal systems.

And where do we sell what?

[donavi49]

Well, you also wrote that we are selling - technology and finished projects for BN.

[standan]

Projects, yes, but technology? Moreover, we are building a next-generation reactor with a lead coolant.

[standan]

In the USSR, back in 1968, BOR-60, a fast neutron reactor with a capacity of 60 Megawatts, was launched, and it is successfully operating to this day. Its service life has been extended until 2025. The next generation BN-600 reactor was launched in the Sverdlovsk region in 1980 and is still operational. Its capacity is 600 megawatts, for comparison, the experimental Chinese CEFR (China Experimental Fast Reactor), launched in 2010, this figure is 45 megawatts. The most recent Russian fast reactor BN-800 was put into operation in 2015 at the same Beloyarsk NPP. In addition to industrial applications, the sodium-cooled nuclear facility has served as a testing platform for advanced technologies.

And on their basis, near Tomsk, the construction of an experimental demonstration power unit BREST-300-OD with a lead carrier began. In addition to the reactor itself, a fuel cell assembly plant and a spent fuel reprocessing plant will be built within one complex.

[Sands Careers General]

Very funny, especially considering that there are French reactors))
And who fucked up?

[Flashpoint]

And next to Macau and Hong Kong, and the ocean. Another Fukushima blowing?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Flashpoint

And next to Macau and Hong Kong, and the ocean. Another Fukushima blew

In Fukushima, American reactors are standing still. Here, French. Then China immediately ordered four Russian blocks. And what do the French want then? To urgently shut down THEIR reactor and eliminate the leak? Are you scared for your reputation? Or already everything ...

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Flashpoint

And next to Macau and Hong Kong, and the ocean. Another Fukushima blew

In Fukushima, American reactors are standing still. Here, French. Then China immediately ordered four Russian blocks. And what do the French want then? To urgently shut down THEIR reactor and eliminate the leak? Are you scared for your reputation? Or already everything ...

It is quite possible that the reactors are of high quality for their technological level, and there is no leakage.

As far as I understand, monitoring the background radiation level can detect a leak if the level rises above "normal". Those. it is not this slightly increased level itself that is dangerous, but the leak that can be calculated from it is dangerous.
And here it looks like the French have screwed up the calculated data where the threshold value is underestimated, maybe they were reinsured, or maybe they made a hairpin specially for the Chinese.

The Chinese, after launch and test work, found out that the background radiation value is higher than that which the curved French counted. Adjusted the threshold accordingly based on the actual data.

The French have lost their shame, you do not care about their reputation at all, screwed up with mistrals, with fighters for the Indians, obviously a mega-bribe, now they are still being substituted according to a project from a nuclear power plant.
Who dares to deal with them ...

[Aleks2048]

Either I did not understand something, or the article is crooked ...
How is that?

the French operating company, it is said about the "imminent radiation threat." This French company participated in the construction of the Taishan nuclear power plant in Guangdong province.

That is, the French company is a participant in the construction and operator of the nuclear power plant.
Then why

The French company Framatome has unilaterally approached the US administration to influence Chinese decisions in terms of risk assessment at nuclear power plants.

As an operator, this company is unable to recognize whether the operation of a nuclear power plant is dangerous or not dangerous? Or do the French do not want to lose in income because the stop will be clearly recognized as emergency and either the builder or the operator of this station with all the ensuing financial consequences will be guilty of the accident?
I wonder if the US decides that plus or minus a couple of million Chinese is the norm, then the French company will continue to operate?
Why do the French go to the United States and not to the IAEA?
Something too many questions for the article?

[rocket757]

For reference: Taishan NPP is one of the newest plants in China. The Taishan NPP has two power units with PWR reactors. The capacity of each is 1750 MW. Power units were commissioned in 2018 and 2019, respectively

... Interesno, who and what made a mess there, that such a situation has arisen ???
If someone is to blame, then WHO?

[Sonmaster]

You will laugh, but most likely:
Petrov and Boshirov.

I'm waiting for just this news.

[rocket757]

This "funny couple" in China ??? Difficult, the cut of the eyes is not the same, the local security service will calculate these for two times and .... the options of influence, well, can be very different.

[sabakina]

Quote: rocket757

If someone is to blame, then WHO?

Vitya prYuvet! Like who? Two from the box, Greenpeace and Greta! What did you think?

[rocket757]

Hi Vyacheslav
In today's crazy world, it's easy to get lost ... black is called white, the most guilty of everyone around is rolling a barrel!
Sometimes it is easier to ask who can be more in the courses than myself.
Although, I would like to hear the official opinion, so it will be more reliable.

[rotmistr60]

about the "imminent radiation threat". This French company participated in the construction of the Taishan nuclear power plant.

Strange, the company that participated in the construction, French reactors (EPR-1600) and signs in their jambs (radiation threat)? At the same time, he complains about the Chinese to the Americans, having grasped the direction of American foreign policy.

[serg.shishkov2015]

it's time to introduce a new heading - Bearded anecdote. And all the comments about Petrov and Boshirov go there. this joke played itself out for a long time

[yfast]

Quote: donavi49

These are French reactors EPR-1750 from Areva with 1650-1670 feeding into the grid - the most powerful in the world available for construction today.

The most important thing is reliability, power is secondary here.

[serg.shishkov2015]

You're right! In the * atom *, reliability is the MOST important thing. And any jokes are inappropriate here

[Azimuth]

Not guilty. I ... Ask the USA.

[Wolf]

Franks built 2018 and 2019 and Chinai find out what they are mistakenly using ??? I thought that everything was working in automatic mode there, but it turned out that Lao had to turn the valve? So the Chinese spread around the world of the Gates virus Covid 19 from the Pfizer laboratory according to Biden, and then the Franks found out that Lao mistakenly opens the valve on the most modern French AES ???

[Graz]

and why the French are turning to the United States. there seems to be a magate, there is a french ministry, there is an agency for atomic energy in france. finally, there are more senior authorities in China over those where they applied before. it is obvious that there is more political overtones, or the French commissioned the station in an unsatisfactory condition?

[Wolf]

When about the Franks, the new- old KING OF PARIS, Novak Djokovic, and God eats Serbs!
https://youtu.be/J0wy2wUsiCk

[Synoid]

There was nothing to buy from the French, apparently the technology was crude. well at least not as the American kamikaze use. In fact, in the United States, there are quite frequent problems at nuclear power plants, including those with emissions.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Synoid

There was nothing to buy from the French, apparently the technology was crude. well at least not as the American kamikaze use. In fact, in the United States, there are quite frequent problems at nuclear power plants, including those with emissions.

The French know how to peaceful atom.

Their technologies are not raw, but ancient and outdated. This leads to great technological difficulties in the operation and maintenance of nuclear power plants.

Assuming something that CNN attributes to the French as an official statement. This means that the declared power of the reactor does not correspond to the one that can actually be obtained during operation.

It turns out that the French sold inflated figures to the Chinese.

In any case, the Chinese will no longer contact the French.
If everything is in order with the nuclear power plant, then the French dragged them into a scandal out of the blue.
If there is a jamb with the nuclear power plant ...

In short, partners such as the French are not needed, you will regret contacting them 10 times.

[maiman61]

Well, the stump is clear that the paddling pools are lying! All "Western democratic" countries lie in every word, this is an axiom. So there is some kind of monetary benefit to them.

[Mikhail3]

So the pump seals started to piss off? Not surprised. The culture of operation of such a structure should not be noticeably inferior to the culture of its development and installation. The line personnel must be highly educated, intelligent and disciplined. Our contractors work at our power plants all over the world. The French know how very well, albeit very expensively, to build a nuclear power plant. So it’s unlikely that they messed up. But the Chinese staff ...

[screw cutter]

Against this background, the Czechs will look good, who have exchanged with Russia and now the tender for the construction of the nuclear power plant seems to go to the French, and here such news is from the Middle Kingdom.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

What are the Chinese worries to you?
the Mayak plant "denies" that it dropped ruthenium-2017 in 106 - the rabbits died at the farmers in Chelyabinsk.
Even in Europe, "echoes" of the event were caught, when a cloud of radioactive ruthenium crossed the entire European part of Russia - so what?
The "high" commission referred to an unknown ... satellite.
And there are suggestions that:

According to the theory, in order to obtain highly active cerium, "young" spent fuel was used at Mayak, which had not yet sufficiently decayed and cooled. This triggered the leakage of a by-product, ruthenium-106 oxide gas. The PNAS report claims that after the ruthenium scandal, Mayak refused to fulfill the order for cerium-144, and the authors interpret this fact in the light of the Russian proverb "a thief and a hat is on fire."

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