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In Ukraine, the number of companies that have applied for the production of SUVs for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to replace UAZs is decreasing

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In Ukraine, discussions are continuing on a program aimed at refusing to use UAZ vehicles in the country's armed forces. The Ukrainian command, as already reported by Voennoye Obozreniye, has set the task of replacing the Soviet-designed UAZ-469 army off-road vehicles with new vehicles. However, a number of difficulties arose. And chief among them is the choice of the performer. The number of applications for the replacement of UAZ vehicles (and this is the production of hundreds of vehicles) is decreasing.


At the moment, five companies offer their services for the development and production of a promising army off-road vehicle for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. One of the firms that had previously made an application dropped out. Moreover, among these companies, there are still very dubious ones, including those that do not develop anything themselves, but are only engaged in "alteration" of automotive equipment already developed by other firms.

For example, the Vidiunikomers company, which is one of the structural divisions of the network of car dealerships, is trying to enter the tender. This structural unit is engaged in the creation of special machines based on foreign samples.

The services to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine for the replacement of the UAZ-469 are offered by Protektingyuring, a company that sells military products, primarily the equipment of the Bogdan corporation. The strangeness is that the Ministry of Defense could directly order SUVs from the same "Bogdan", but in this case it is considering an option with an actual "gasket" company.

The third company from the Ukrainian list is Ukrainian Armored Vehicles. She is engaged in the production of automotive equipment "Varta" and "Novator".

Also among those trying to get the right to supply army off-road vehicles for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are such companies as the design and production enterprise "Synergy" and "Ukravtobuprom".

In Ukraine, the number of companies that have applied for the production of SUVs for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to replace UAZs is decreasing


The latter is the "heiress" of what is left of the bus plant in Lviv. It is important to note that in recent years, Ukravtobuprom has produced practically nothing in terms of automotive technology.

Earlier, an international legal think tank offered its application, which is generally difficult to suspect in any relation to the production of army off-road vehicles.

Ukrainian experts note that the Defense Ministry has been trying to make the choice for almost a year, but so far the process has not actually moved from its place. One of the reasons may be the corruption component. As a result, the contractor may be a company that will not develop anything by itself, but will only resell the APU off-road vehicles produced by others.
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design and production enterprise "Synergy"
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 June 2021 07: 46
    +1
    Lord! What kind of "kübelwagen" in the pictures ?! This is really a "trough". As I understand it, the designers decided to make a station wagon - so that both a rogue and a rider could swim ...
    But after all, UAZ is not only among the scouts - it is also among the staff officers and the sanitary service. How to get the wounded out of this "trough" or how the colonel "with a belly" sits down in it? !!
    In general, I, so far, have not seen a replacement for the "goat" even in the schedule ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 3 June 2021 07: 49
      +6
      Reincarnation of "LUAZA"? A good off-road device was once.
      1. Grits
        Grits 3 June 2021 07: 59
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        Reincarnation of "LUAZA"? A good off-road device was once.

        There is probably nothing left of the plant there. But, I think, if he was now and offered an old Soviet car (good old LuAZ) for the competition, he would be the best. The device was really not bad.
      2. Peak
        Peak 3 June 2021 08: 40
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        Reincarnation of "LUAZA"? A good off-road device was once.

        If we recall the civilian LuAZ - "Volyn", then experts speak of it as a more complex design, from the point of view of building a transmission device, in comparison, for example, with the UAZ.

        They also note that there is a certain unit in the LuAZ transmission, with which the front drive axle of the SUV will row forward, and the rear one - back fellow turning the car into a "push-pull" ...

        This is also a LuAZ, but the army one is specialized "Front End Conveyor"(TPK)

        1. Avior
          Avior 3 June 2021 08: 54
          -4
          you had to drive lying down
          1. Peak
            Peak 3 June 2021 09: 01
            +3
            Quote: Avior
            you had to drive lying down

            What makes you think that - "had"?
            Is not "it could be", if the need arises, to lower the silhouette?

            The photo shows the standard position of the driver's seat of the pan-transporter, which can be changed to the driving position from the prone position.

            1. Avior
              Avior 3 June 2021 09: 03
              -6
              specialized "Front End Conveyor" (TPK)

              therefore lying down. at the forefront, esno. smile
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 3 June 2021 09: 31
            +2
            Sergei, why argue? We watch from 6:05
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 3 June 2021 09: 15
          +4
          Quote: PiK
          They also note that in the LuAZ transmission there is a certain unit, "wise" with which, the front drive axle of the SUV will row forward, and the rear drive axle backward fellow, turning the car into a "push-pull".

          Not a problem. About 45 years ago, the rear axle flew on the Moskvich-412. For the first time I disassembled. After the repair, one gear turned forward, backward - four. wink
          Quote: Avior
          you had to drive lying down

          It could be. wink
          It’s for nothing that there were "Zaporozhtsy" invalids before. The test was given a car that could be operated with only one hand, including gear shifting.
          PS Once every seven years a new one was issued. Now people with disabilities are given cars, who knows?
          1. Avior
            Avior 3 June 2021 09: 21
            -3
            I understand that you can.
            was supposed to be at the forefront smile
            Cossacks for the disabled were different, depending on which limbs a person had
            they were for the legless, but there were also with one leg, one arm.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 3 June 2021 09: 38
            +2
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            forward one gear turned out, backward four

            French tanklol
            - Well, 4 gears back, it's clear why - it's more convenient to retreat. Why go one forward?
            - Just in case, you never know the enemy will be in the rear.
            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 3 June 2021 09: 43
              +3
              Quote: Nagan
              Why go one forward?

              You find it funny. Oh, I almost broke the wall in the garage.wink
              1. mojohed2012
                mojohed2012 3 June 2021 10: 01
                -1
                Loise is a theme of the past, they won't collect it either ...
                Here, they say (rumors), OKA on the road, due to its short base and ease, goes better than the Oise.
                It's time for the Krajinsky Armed Forces of Ukraine to order the production of OKI with the replacement of UAZs in the ukrovermacht.
                Attach a mule-gun to it - here's a breakthrough for you.
                A. still paint it green, you can hang it with plastic floats - it will float!
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 3 June 2021 10: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: mojohed2012
                  APU order production of OKI

                  Enemies are not allowed.
                  1. mojohed2012
                    mojohed2012 3 June 2021 10: 28
                    -1
                    Do not order, but create it yourself.
                    They will buy an old OKU, disassemble it for parts, make patterns Zap. parts and forward to the conveyor.
                    A "serious country" must develop "in a serious way." And, since they can no longer make their own hummer or tiger - the Eye is just right for them!
                    1. Was mammoth
                      Was mammoth 3 June 2021 10: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: mojohed2012
                      Do not order, but create it yourself.

                      Technology is lost. And, with us. wink
                      1. mojohed2012
                        mojohed2012 3 June 2021 12: 15
                        +1
                        Toda - oh!
                        Well, they will be able to create a cart, they will podrazvedat - why not transport to you?
                        Or have even these technologies been lost?
                        The supply-wagon-cart should be recreated, the nakraynyak will be asked for the seluks in the zapadenshchina Yak vіz pobuduvati and the horse to breed.
                    2. cat Rusich
                      cat Rusich 3 June 2021 19: 39
                      +2
                      Quote: mojohed2012

                      They will buy an old OKU, disassemble it for parts, make patterns Zap. parts and forward to the conveyor.
                      "Serious country" - Oka them just right!
                      Oka-9M
                      Oka-9M fellow
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2021 09: 16
      -3
      "goat"
      ... he waxes the "bobby", ... the "goat" is a GAZ-69 ... by the way, in our Crimea, tourist boats make good money with this particular fleet
    3. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 3 June 2021 09: 43
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Lord! What kind of "kübelwagen" in the pictures ?! This is really a "trough". As I understand it, the designers decided to make a station wagon - so that both a rogue and a rider could swim ...
      But after all, UAZ is not only among the scouts - it is also among the staff officers and the sanitary service. How to get the wounded out of this "trough" or how the colonel "with a belly" sits down in it? !!
      In general, I, so far, have not seen a replacement for the "goat" even in the schedule ...

      This "kuebelvagen" is still in the pictures of designers and the "wishlist" of the military. It is not known what components and assemblies will be installed, from which donor.
      They want a mono-body made of plastic, fuel tanks in the sides. The frame is spatial.
    4. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 3 June 2021 15: 11
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Lord! What kind of "kübelwagen" in the pictures ?!

      Everything that is pleasing to the gaze of a neo-fascist has a greater chance of being sold in / in Fashland.
      The similarity is undoubted, but only the Germans knew what they were doing and why. And the ancient Sumerians ... well, in principle, they also know. (here you need to insert the sound of a saw)
  2. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 3 June 2021 07: 46
    +3
    "As a result, the contractor may be a company that will not develop anything on its own, but will only resell off-road vehicles produced by others to the Ukrainian Armed Forces." I did not expect anything else, but the bacon must be hidden.
  3. knn54
    knn54 3 June 2021 07: 52
    0
    After the Ministry of Health (MINA under Health Protection) of Ukraine announced a tender for the supply of a medicine that is produced by the ONLY manufacturer in the world, there is nothing to be surprised at.
    The winners are the "persons" who are closest to the "Servants of the people" who (a unique case) live better than the OWNERS.
    1. minus
      minus 3 June 2021 13: 58
      0
      Well, this example is unfortunate. This is a perfectly normal situation. When purchasing European equipment, I came across this often. In Russia, you can only buy from dealers. And there are a lot of them, with different delivery terms and prices.
  4. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 3 June 2021 07: 58
    +2
    Of course, you can't judge the car by its appearance, you have to drive thousands of kilometers on it and only then put an assessment.
    But the photo is a "freak" of some sort. The car (like the plane and the ship) should be beautiful, pleasing to the eye.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 June 2021 08: 16
      +1
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      But the photo is a "freak" of some sort. The car (like the plane and the ship) should be beautiful, pleasing to the eye.

      This is an illustration of Ukrainian life - a crocodile's nose, a donkey's tail, headlights - frog's eyes ..... and froze "in anticipation" .....
      1. Peak
        Peak 3 June 2021 09: 21
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        This is an illustration of Ukrainian life - a crocodile's nose, a donkey's tail, headlights - frog's eyes ..... and froze "in anticipation" .....

    2. Reviews
      Reviews 3 June 2021 09: 58
      0
      Quote: smith 55
      on the photo "freak" what that. The car (like the plane and the ship) should be beautiful, pleasing to the eye.

      This is not necessary for a utility vehicle. Objectively speaking, the appearance of the "Jeep" and "Dodge 3/4" is also so-so. We just got used to it.
      B-24 again ... Well, a lumpy and flying hippopotamus. But he did his job perfectly throughout the war. The same is true for the P-47 Thunderbolt.
      And the ships of the "space fleet" - those that provided space communications? Floating forestа what that. So what?
  5. prior
    prior 3 June 2021 08: 07
    +1
    It doesn't matter that SUVs have never been designed.
    It doesn't matter that such a technique has never been produced.
    The main thing is to win a tender, get money ... and ... until visa-free travel is not canceled.
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 June 2021 08: 07
    +1
    Buy LK70 in the right pieces (Ukraine is not the Russian Federation, you don't need much), it will be cheap and cheerful.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 June 2021 08: 17
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Buy LK70 in the right pieces

      BUY???!!! And donate? Not?
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 3 June 2021 08: 21
        0
        Well, within the framework of help, why not? Hummers donated from storage .....
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 3 June 2021 08: 25
    -1
    So far, it is clear that a club of interests has gathered. In short, they can enter who makes the decisions, it should just be different!
    In fact, what difference does it make to how many firms are and what they are doing, let there be hundreds of them. They wrote the TOR and set the day for testing the working samples.
    From those who present the technique for testing, choose the top three and the one who can provide the quantity and quality will win.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2021 09: 25
      0
      choose the top three and the winner will be the one who can provide the quantity and quality.
      .... it will be UAZ
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 June 2021 10: 37
        0
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        .... it will be UAZ

        Most likely, but UAZ, by definition, cannot win. So it will most likely win a B / U Hammer, from warehouses in Afghanistan. It costs nothing to calculate the winner.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2021 10: 44
          -1
          .So that the winner is likely to be a used Hammer, from warehouses in Afghanistan.
          ..... not ... UAZ ... spare parts for the "bobby" without crossing the border, you can throw the egg over the fence .... but for a boor, how! through a big puddle !!!
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 3 June 2021 10: 54
            0
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            . and for a boor as! through a big puddle !!!

            It doesn't matter how, they have everything against logic
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2021 13: 31
              0
              [It doesn't matter how, they are all against logic
              [/quote] ... aha, like coal from South Africa and reverse from Poland, so here it will be like here
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 3 June 2021 13: 53
                +1
                [quote] = Crimean partisan 1974] [It doesn't matter how, they have everything against logic
                [/quote] ... aha, like coal from South Africa and reverse from Poland, so here it will be like here
                [/ Quote]
                This is an ingenious invention, I mean the Rotterdam + system.
                It is possible to mine coal in the country and sell it for money, as if it came from South Africa.
                Ostap Bender is just a child, compared to Poroshenko and Co. !!!
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2021 16: 17
                  -1
                  Ostap Bender is just a child, compared to Poroshenko and Co. !!!
                  ... yes, the Horns and Hooves are just resting on the sidelines ... I'm generally shocked ..... legally prosecute opposition forces. and in the meantime, release the killers (the killers of Sheremet and Buzina) ... as I understand it, they have already released the Onoprienko maniac ...
  8. cniza
    cniza 3 June 2021 08: 33
    -2
    As a result, the contractor may be a company that will not develop anything on its own, but will only resell the APU off-road vehicles produced by others.


    Of course, this is a proven circuit ...
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  10. sabakina
    sabakina 3 June 2021 08: 41
    -1
    company "Vidiunikomers", "Protectinjuring" - company

    It is strange that there is no Prestigeitatsiya company there.
    1. Peak
      Peak 3 June 2021 08: 50
      -3
      Quote: sabakina
      It is strange that there is no Prestigeitatsiya company there.

      Excuse me - what is "living"?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 3 June 2021 08: 54
        -1
        Quote: PiK

        Excuse me - what is "living"?

  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 June 2021 09: 00
    0
    "Protektingyuring" - company
    For some reason, I remembered such a word as prestidizitation and in its meaning fits Ukrainian reality - sleight of hand and ... the money floated away.
  12. Pereira
    Pereira 3 June 2021 09: 14
    -1
    Let them have fun. Let's wait and laugh.
  13. Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 3 June 2021 09: 43
    -1
    Wangyu: buy a Humvee!
  14. markant1970
    markant1970 3 June 2021 09: 48
    -2
    The photo shows a visualization of the Inguar-transport project of the front edge. Of the unknown, there is also a multi-purpose off-road vehicle of the Step project (steppe)