Stealth technology used for the latest Iskander missiles

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The Iskander operational-tactical complex will be equipped with new ammunition, which is extremely difficult to detect and shoot down. At the same time, he moves along a complex trajectory, dodging enemy anti-missiles and striking ground targets.

About this newspaper "News" sources in the Russian defense department said.



This innovative product is called invulnerable. Its development has been underway since 2016, and by now the work is close to completion. In the summer of 2020, new ammunition was tested at the Kapustin Yar test site.

For these newest missiles of the Iskander tactical complex, the developers have used stealth technology. Their hulls are covered with a special radio-absorbing material.

The ammunition belongs to the aeroballistic class, that is, the missile is flying along a ballistic trajectory, but at the same time it is within the earth's atmosphere. Reaching the target, the ammunition maneuvers along a complex trajectory. With its help, you can hit objects at a distance (according to official data) up to 500 kilometers.

The interlocutors of the publication are confident that the novelty will significantly increase the combat capability of the Russian army.

The developer and manufacturer of the Iskander OTRK is the Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. At the moment, the Iskander-M complexes are armed with two types of cruise missiles, as well as five ballistic missiles.
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  1. +5
    2 June 2021 09: 36
    Only a narrow circle of rocket specialists can calculate on paper how many kilometers an Iskander can fly theoretically. But knowing our saying "in reserve", can there be surprises?
    1. +16
      2 June 2021 09: 44
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Only a narrow circle of rocket specialists can calculate on paper how many kilometers an Iskander can fly theoretically. But knowing our saying "in reserve", can there be surprises?

      Are you seriously? Yes, here on every second you will now calculate everything and build application analytics for 3 years in advance
      1. +4
        2 June 2021 09: 51
        In my Wishlist, Iskander is generally "intergalactic". No one has canceled the laws of chemistry and physics and arodynamics. laughing
        1. +4
          2 June 2021 12: 01
          First, Iskander is a universal "platform" and includes nomenclature. Moreover, the nomenclature also intersects with the universal "platform" of the Caliber. In particular, in the nomenclature of BR and KR. The Dagger complex is the essence of a ballistic missile from the Iskander range, suspended under the belly of an aircraft, etc. ... There are different GOS, i.e. with radar and IR, etc. There is inertial guidance and GLONASS. Naturally, the lightest seeker and warhead is nuclear. For guidance, enough inertial and satellite correction, in contrast to the overall one, its own radar, etc., and the 50-kiloton charge of the SBS weighs less than 100 kg. Those. according to the laws of ballistics, a hundred-kilogram charge will fly away farther than a half-ton land mine. And the most important thing is promising modernization. This is an option where the first stage is reset, and the second works with a turbojet engine, or even more interesting is the option of a stage with a ramjet engine. And this will fly much farther from the declared 500 km according to the late INF Treaty

        2. -2
          3 June 2021 05: 54
          Physics and chemistry are not very exact sciences, we know this from school. According to the laws of physics, the beetle should not fly, but it flies an infection. And there are many other paradoxes.
          But I'm not actually talking about this, except for these sciences, you missed such a thing as the Russian "maybe", and this is, well, a very unpredictable phenomenon, so nothing can be 100% asserted and guaranteed, which the West itself has repeatedly had to make sure of when all their calculations in relation to us crumbled into dust
      2. +3
        2 June 2021 10: 44
        Are you seriously? Yes, here on every second you will now calculate everything and build application analytics for 3 years in advance- the aftors quit, tomorrow they will criticize them and explain that the United States is ahead of the rest of the planet. hi
      3. 0
        2 June 2021 11: 20
        There was an early comment from a comrade from Israel that the nuclear version of the missile is capable of covering 800 km.
      4. +4
        2 June 2021 11: 34
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Yes, here on every second you will now calculate everything and build application analytics for 3 years in advance

        The new rocket for the Iskander can fly for three years, and that’s just ahead! laughing
    2. +6
      2 June 2021 10: 19
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Only a narrow circle of rocket specialists can calculate on paper how many kilometers an Iskander can fly theoretically. But knowing our saying "in reserve", can there be surprises?


      On the paper? What are your archaic ideas about aircraft design.

      Back in the late 80s, students counted 1-2-3 stepped rockets programmatically in terms of educational laboratory work, laying the layout, known technological processes, materials, fuel, PN, control system, trajectories, etc.
      30 students, enter the problem - each according to its own project initial data (PN and range).

      A multi-user computer, solves problems from the queue, each designer gets his own result, changes the conditions and again for calculation - based on the results of laboratory work, submits the project to the supervisor (associate professor or professor of the LA department), must justify the choice of a technical solution - in my 4th year the corresponding department of our alma mater.
      This is what it looked like in a classroom in the late 80s.
      1. +15
        2 June 2021 10: 30
        I am far from rocket science, but as a child, a 200-liter barrel was launched into the sky, flew but not high. Batya saw, repulsed the desire to become a rocket engineer. I had to go to sea.
        1. +11
          2 June 2021 10: 39
          approximately the same, I did not become an artilleryman lol
        2. +11
          2 June 2021 10: 44
          Quote: tralflot1832
          I am far from rocket science, but as a child, a 200-liter barrel was launched into the sky, flew but not high. Batya saw, repulsed the desire to become a rocket engineer. I had to go to sea.


          At the model aircraft we launched rockets and participated in competitions on standard engines, and by the 10th class of the SR shk, we launched NURS at 1,5 - 2 km range on a homemade TT - thanks to local KGB operatives - they kept us registered and did not touch us. And our whole company went into rocket and space technology and some people are still working in the industry.

          Now the FSB would "accept" everyone - they would draw an article for storing / making ... at least - they would squeeze money from their parents, or they would sign up for a "hero" that opened an organized criminal group.
          Other people, other goals ...

          The USSR could direct the aspirations of the boys in the right direction and completely free of charge.
          The Russian Federation has different priorities - unfortunately
          1. +2
            2 June 2021 11: 01
            For information .2019 Yevgeny Barchenkov 13 years old, champion of Russia, Europe and the World in rocket modeling. Where is the FSB?
            1. +6
              2 June 2021 11: 35
              Quote: tralflot1832
              For information .2019 g Evgeny Barchenkov 13 years old, champion of Russia, Europe and the World in rocket modeling. Where is the FSB?


              Are you kidding me?
              It's like comparing karting with F1 - amateur rocketry in the Russian Federation as an achievement :))
              And that Zhenya is already experimenting with TT?
              Does it pour solid fuel by itself? Experimenting with binder, varying filler, metallizing fuel?
              There, effective TT from detonation is separated by grams of aluminum, magnesium, and detonation is already explosive, not TT.

              Have you heard what High-power rocketry is?
              In the USA (as well as in Great Britain, Australia, Canada, etc.) this direction of rocket modeling is regulated: it is necessary to obtain a license for the production of launches and the manufacture of TT according to the recipe.
              Unlike model rocketry, certification is required by the governing organizations in order for individuals to fly high-powered rockets. The certification system is standardized across the hobby and governing organizations. There are three levels of certification, each allowing the user to fly successfully larger motors. In the USA (TRA and NAR):

              Level 1: H, I
              Level 2: J, K, L
              Level 3: M, N, O and beyond

              Consistent with CFR Title 14 Aeronautics and Space Part 101 Subpart C 101.22 Definitions:

              “(B) Class 2 - High Power Rocket means an amateur rocket, other than a model rocket, which is propelled by an engine or engines having a combined total momentum of 40 Newton-seconds (960 lb-seconds) or less.

              (c) Class 3 - Enhanced High Power Rocket means an amateur rocket other than a model rocket or high power rocket. "

              Composite fuels based on ammonium perchlorate (AP) were previously required for engines, so that the buyer has a license for explosives and the transfer of the competent authorities to the recipient Document (RCA) Wikipedia site: wikichi.ru
              Without a license - the engine is not more than 1 kg.
              Zhenya - won very, very low status.

              In the Russian Federation, the development of amateur rocketry is at an embryonic level - approximately Level 1 USA

              An example of amateur rocket science level 3 - what do grown-up men do for "soul" :)
              .

              1. +1
                2 June 2021 12: 07
                Duc these are amateurs, and we are already finishing Sarmat, everything for the country's defense. Space will not go anywhere from us and the kids will launch their rockets. Money is not invested in measure. There is a direction for children in Sirius in Sochi who want to connect their lives with space. Not so bad, you just need to knock on the keyboard and know where to look!
                1. +3
                  2 June 2021 15: 15
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  So these are amateurs, and we are already finishing Sarmat, everything for the country's defense. Space will not go anywhere from us and the kids will launch their missiles.


                  Yes - something is being done.
                  But we need to take ready-made regulations and let people develop.
                  Where are Musk, NASA, Lockheed, Boeing engineers recruited? - these are all the former guys who were engaged in aircraft modeling and rocket modeling and were not "stuck" at Level 1, under the supervision of their uncle they went further Level 2, Level 3 and beyond ...

                  And in regional DOSAAF competitions I have been able to receive prizes by "launching" on standard powder engines - but the rocket engineer who does not dream of launching into space is bad.
                  And my dwelling on Korolev Street, although far from rocketry, does not let go :))
                  1. +3
                    2 June 2021 18: 13
                    Technopark Zhigulevskaya valley Samara region, the other day kids launched a racket for 27 km, under the guidance of adults, of course.
          2. 0
            2 June 2021 21: 20
            What is a standard rocket motor? NURS for 2-3 km? Absolutely free?
            Didn't the KGB touch you?
            1. 0
              3 June 2021 10: 16
              Quote: Nikolay2
              What is a standard rocket motor? NURS for 2-3 km? Absolutely free?
              Didn't the KGB touch you?

              The phones were listening.
              But we were all "trustworthy" - Komsomol members, activists, then three of us entered the aerospace industry. From the younger generation, there are two more.
              Standard engine of the type MRD2.5 MRD5 MRD10 MRD20 are black powder engines propagated through DOSAAF - standard thrust for competitions (with an expelling charge for a parachute): the number denotes a thrust impulse - for competitions in its class.

              RD1-30 and etc.

              near the electric igniter.

              "NURS" were home-made, on a home-made engine and fuel, they carried a shock detonator and a small charge (smoke) so that it could be found after the fall - the layout and dimensions resembled a Malyutka ATGM
            2. 0
              3 June 2021 10: 39
              Quote: Nikolay2
              What is a standard rocket motor



              The engine can be with a 5 sec propelling charge retarder (so that the rocket slows down to use the parachute system) and without a retarder - for example, for launching a rocket plane or initiating other automation.
              Now copies of the Soviet series RD1 are being made https://podarini.ru/modelnye-raketnye-dvigateli/
              RD1-300 has the most powerful impulse up to 300 Ns.
              Imports of different quality are also sold.
              here about RD1-300 RD1-1500
              https://spacelin.ru/novosti/final_series/
          3. 0
            3 June 2021 06: 01
            I don’t know what years you’re talking about, but we launched everything and a lot, and even a mop in two twenties, we still don’t know its fate, but never once did any KGB officers appear close to us, or maybe disguised themselves. fellow
            1. 0
              3 June 2021 10: 05
              Quote: Ros 56
              I don’t know what years you are talking about

              70s early 80s
              Quote: Ros 56
              but we ran everything and a lot and even a mop in two twenties

              Colleagues :)
              We left the standard black powder engines almost immediately - they did not work very synchronously anyway - from an assembly of 5 twenty - rarely when everything worked - the electric ignitors were so-so.
              At the age of 13, he assembled a launch stand on the basis of a hand-held generator and a cascade of capacitors, which could work with a long cable (for safety, about 50 meters). And the electric fuses were made by themselves - which could effectively work with mixed and ballistic fuels, with which they experimented.
              Hulls made of thick-walled aluminum cans from rescued vests - an excellent impulse was achieved over time on metallized ballistic fuels based on nitrocellulose.
              Quote: Ros 56
              no KGB officers appeared close to us

              Well, they listened to our phones. But we were Komsomol members, activists and worked with our heads and with the strictest safety conditions - by the way, the younger generations, learned from us a responsible attitude, also had no injuries. And some goofs, tore off their fingers.

              Our largest rocket, we launched as students on the day of cosmonautics, it was more than 2 m high. Your engine, your own fuel - those were funny times :)
              1. +2
                3 June 2021 12: 44
                Well, we are in those days. It's just that we were model aircraft ourselves, and rockets are so entertaining. But by virtue of my position, in the second half of the 80s, I happened to organize in Orenburg the Championship of either the Union or Russia in rocket modeling, I don't remember how old it was. I assure you there was a lot to see, especially with the class of copy models, and with separable steps. Beauty, and nothing more. And to charge this whole system is something. hi
        3. 0
          2 June 2021 12: 13
          Quote: tralflot1832
          . Dad saw, repulsed the desire to become a rocket engineer. I had to go to sea.

          Why at sea? what Were your pants wet when Dad rushed to "fight off the desire"? winked
          1. +6
            2 June 2021 12: 21
            A month before, Dad had lifted my arsenal from the basement, as he told his mother that the platoon could defend itself for one day without limiting itself, there was even an aircraft cannon. family dynasty of sailors, there was no choice.
      2. 0
        2 June 2021 18: 15
        It's strange, but I counted on paper and a calculator at 96
    3. 0
      2 June 2021 21: 02
      well, if a couple of times around the Earth, then YES
  2. wow
    +2
    2 June 2021 09: 49
    Come on, let's play Iskandra seven-string! The further, the more powerful, the more invulnerable, the better !!!
    1. +20
      2 June 2021 10: 04
      Indeed, seven-string)))
      Iskander-M complexes are armed with two the type of cruise missiles, as well as five ballistic
      1. +1
        2 June 2021 12: 18
        Quote: S Smirnov
        Iskander-M complexes are armed with two types of cruise missiles, as well as five ballistic

        Fir-trees! Soon your fingers will run out! How to count then? request
  3. +9
    2 June 2021 09: 55
    "... For these newest missiles of the Iskander operational-tactical complex, the developers used stealth technology. Their hulls are covered with a special radio-absorbing material ..."
    =======
    Strange! If memory serves, then they talked about it, even when the "Iskander" was just beginning to enter the troops! .....
    Oh-well-terribly interesting, what's new there, besides the radio-absorbing coating? Although, who will say now? ...
    1. +4
      2 June 2021 10: 51
      Quote: venik
      Oh-well-terribly interesting, what's new there, besides the radio-absorbing coating? Although, who will say now? ...


      The hulls are already "rolling" from carbon fiber - the rocket itself is inconspicuous.
      Most likely, measures were taken to reduce the EPR - titanium components were replaced with less "reflective" ones.
  4. -1
    2 June 2021 10: 03
    I think soon there will be a message about the installation of a "laser-repelling" coating, electronic warfare, false targets, at least somehow stir up pride and patriotism towards the Army. Stealth has long been a hackneyed word and almost nowhere is the topic covered in frequency ranges and antenna characteristics.
    1. 0
      2 October 2021 00: 41
      Lelik, are you pooping or something?
  5. +1
    2 June 2021 10: 06
    Here is the Iskander rocket.
    Very simple in design.

    How are they going to be coated with stealth coating? recourse
    And, most importantly, why? Iskander's trump card is speed. From here
    short flight time. And good accuracy.
    Any bells and whistles with maneuvering will kill accuracy.
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    2. +3
      2 June 2021 10: 13
      This is a new ammunition.
    3. +4
      2 June 2021 10: 32
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How are they going to be coated with stealth coating?
      And, most importantly, why? Iskander's trump card is speed. From here
      short flight time. And good accuracy.
      Any bells and whistles with maneuvering will kill accuracy.

      Well, everything is as usual, edges and corners will appear. The question of performance characteristics is still open, but now stealth is a panacea for all air defense systems laughing laughing laughing
    4. +1
      2 June 2021 11: 13
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How are they going to be coated with stealth coating?

      On Vika they write (and in other sources the information is similar):
      Iskander-M quasi-ballistic missile
      _ "Iskander-M" - a variant for the Russian armed forces with two 9M723 quasi-ballistic missiles on a launcher, the firing range, as mentioned in various sources, is up to 500 km.
      _Raketa complex 9M723 has one stage with a solid fuel engine. The rocket is manufactured using technologies to reduce radar signature (the so-called "Stealth technology"): small scattering surface, small size of protruding parts, radio-absorbing coating[17] [50] [51].

      Somewhere I came across information that the active homing head of the rocket is turned on literally at the last moment, when there is no time left to counteract it with air defense means.
      1. +1
        2 June 2021 11: 18
        The rocket is completely standard. Round cross-section, usual for BR.
        Round is not stealth technology in any way. Stealth missiles - faceted section.
        Therefore, it does not make any sense to coat with stealth coating - this is
        additional measure, after the form.

        "that the active seeker at the missile is turned on literally at the last moment"

        Of course, otherwise it will burn up in the atmosphere. Correction at the terminal site. And so did Laura.
        1. +2
          2 June 2021 12: 33
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Round is not stealth technology in any way. Stealth missiles - faceted section.
          Therefore, it makes no sense to coat with stealth coating -

          The meaning can always be found ... There would be a Desire! Now the term "stealth" can have a "varied" meaning! The main thing is the result! The fact that the ammunition (or the plane ...) "sometimes" has a faceted yak glass body, this is to redirect the reflected energy ... Such a body may not "absorb" energy! The energy absorbing coating (radio covering) can be both on the "round" body, and on the flat "plywood"!
    5. +2
      2 June 2021 11: 15


      voyaka uh (Alexey)
      Today, 10: 06
      ..How are they going to be coated with stealth coating?


      For especially, kind of mildly, gifted:
      For these newest missiles of the Iskander operational-tactical complex, the developers used stealth technology. Their hulls are covered with special radio-absorbing material..
      "And who does not agree, will go to load cast iron!" fool fool fool
    6. +6
      2 June 2021 11: 20
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How are they going to be coated with stealth coating?

      =======
      It is just on such a simple-shaped body to apply a coating and not a problem!
      --------
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And, most importantly, why?

      ========
      Strange question: To later could find!
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Any bells and whistles with maneuvering will kill accuracy.

      ========
      This is exactly the question and managed to solve on Iskander! The rocket maneuvers, and the accuracy remains high!
      ----------
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Iskander's trump card is speed.

      ========
      There is such a method of aiming guided interceptor missiles: "the method of full or partial trajectory straightening" - i.e. when the missile is aimed not at the target, but at the calculated "meeting point". Works great on high-speed non-maneuverable targets. Primary method used in missile defense! At the same time, on counter-intersecting courses, it allows you to intercept targets flying at speeds exceeding the speed of interceptor missiles (moreover, in some cases, even much exceeding). BUT! As soon as the goal starts to effectively maneuver, the probability of a miss grows rapidly (tending to 1, i.e., to 100%)!
      Why is it incomprehensible?
      1. -4
        2 June 2021 11: 33
        "effectively maneuver" ///
        ----
        At high speeds, inertial forces interfere with effective maneuvering,
        always working: in space, in the atmosphere.
        It's like turning the wheel of a car at high speed.
        For this reason, "effective maneuvering" for BR in practice is
        slight "wiggle" by plus or minus 1-2 degrees from the main trajectory.
        This wiggle is calculated by computers and does little against missile defense.
        Iskander has swaying only on takeoff (the most vulnerable area).
        There are no maneuvers in the middle section. On the terminal - correction using the GOS.

        Such an option on the Yars warhead also exists, but never
        will be used: missiles will fly away to no one knows where, which is much worse than missile defense.

        The power of BR is speed.
        If you want to actively maneuver, use CR.
        1. +4
          2 June 2021 12: 22
          Quote: voyaka uh
          For this reason, "effective maneuvering" for BR in practice is
          slight "wiggle" by plus or minus 1-2 degrees from the main trajectory.
          This wiggle is calculated by computers and does little against missile defense.
          Iskander has swaying only on takeoff (the most vulnerable area).
          There are no maneuvers in the middle section. On the terminal - correction using the GOS.


          Warrior - why are you fantasizing :)
          The tree "sways" from the wind, the rocket performs a maneuver determined by the flight program.
          Aeroballistic trajectories, imply an exit to an altitude of more than 50 km, the subsequent entry into the atmosphere and an active maneuver when approaching the target.
          The missile defense launches at the lead point along the course, the speed of the interceptor missile differs by 1.5-2 times from the block flying by inertia.
          The evasion of the block along the course with an overload of 40G - the interceptor missile will not be able to repeat within the limit of design constraints - overload, control system constraints, etc.

          Maneuvering in the course of the programmer can reach tens of degrees
          1. -1
            2 June 2021 12: 35
            "Maneuvering in the course of the programmer can reach tens of degrees" ///
            ---
            Is the BR super maneuverable? laughing
            1. +3
              2 June 2021 13: 24
              Another Pershing II Weapon System - was created with the ability to correct the trajectory in the final section up to several degrees and performed correction both according to the INS and according to the radar data.
              This correlation process was performed several times during each of four altitude bands and continued to update the inertial guidance system until just before the impact
              .
              Why do you think that the Iskander warhead does not have target designation and control equipment at a CEP of 7-8 meters?
              1. -2
                2 June 2021 14: 15
                "final section up to several degrees" ///
                ---
                Read my posts. I wrote about this several times.
                But this correction by maneuvering is possible when Iskander has already braked the atmosphere to a speed of high supersonic falling almost vertically on the target.
                And Pershing has the same thing: sharp braking with an almost vertical fall. And a correction at the end.
                You wrote about several dozens degrees ". And on a high trajectory and at high hyper-speeds. Which is impossible.
                1. +1
                  2 June 2021 15: 00
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  You wrote "about several tens of degrees." Moreover, on a high trajectory and at high hyper-speeds. Which is impossible.


                  What prevents this at altitudes of more than 50 km?
                  1. -2
                    2 June 2021 15: 18
                    Physics gets in the way. lol Inertial forces that work properly at any height.
                    And they will tear any apparatus apart or carry it away irreversibly from
                    main trajectory at any sharp maneuver
                    1. +3
                      2 June 2021 16: 17
                      The smaller the structure, the less the moment of inertia, the less its mass, the less the moment of inertia.
                      What prevents to aim the object in a certain area, which will be calculated by the target designation systems, and when approaching the estimated interception line, "correct" the trajectory - just the mass and power-to-weight ratio, with a gas-dynamic control system.
                      Even the "stage of delivery" of standard BB will give a dispersion along the course more than you wrote.
                      A controlled BB ... that is why it is controlled, its mass is much less than the starting one, it will take a much smaller impulse of force to significantly change the trajectory.

                      Quasi-cruel false targets were invented in order to increase the penetration of as much interference into the atmosphere as possible with cheap means, as close as possible to the interception of missile defense. transatmospheric interception - these are bulky systems - which will not survive in the area of ​​the battlefield

                      12th test of the THAAD system since the start of the program in 2005. The first operational test of the system to intercept missiles at high altitude was carried out on the final leg of the flight... One short-range missile and one medium-range ballistic missile were intercepted.


                      I would like to draw your attention to the following: in the final section - not beyond the atmospheric.
                      In the atmospheric section, it is quite possible to change the flight trajectory with aerodynamic control surfaces and gas-dynamic surfaces.
                      In the atmospheric area, the BB will "shine" with hot surfaces in the infrared range and its detection is not difficult.

                      The meaning of the script:
                      launch - at a distance of 400 km it is detected by radar means, satellite means (if they are capable by that moment) - the interception systems preliminarily calculate the area of ​​the fall, the probable objects of possible damage are determined along the course.
                      The THAAD interception complex is put on high alert.
                      At the end of the active section, by radar means, it is not possible to detect the warhead, upon exiting the dense layers of the atm. - The warhead is cooling down and it is still impossible to select it by aerodynamic heating.
                      Upon arrival at the target area, the warhead "breaks its trajectory" and enters the dense layers of the atmosphere, along a steep trajectory (or maybe not along a steep :)), who told you that the warhead cannot use all the advantages of the atmospheric section?
                      BP can be selected in the IR spectrum. The flight time is a little over a minute.
                      If there is an army missile defense THAAD launcher in the target area, it launches at the calculated point of the trajectory.
                      The warhead programmer performs the atmospheric maneuvering program.
                      Taking into account the fact that the speed of the interceptor increases and the target decreases, the target's maneuvering capabilities increase, and that of the interceptor decreases.
                      Due to late detection, the difference in the velocity vectors is greatest. The probability of interception tends to be minimal.
                      1. +1
                        2 June 2021 17: 36
                        All this is very interesting, but none of this.

                        Iskander missed even without the slightest maneuvering, along the simplest trajectory not to the maximum range.
                        We gave KVO 100 m. Correction from the seeker did not work when the target was not sufficiently contrasting, not on the range.
                        Of course, with a nuclear warhead and 100 m is enough to hit the target.
                        Iskander is a good, simple missile. Very effective with a nuclear warhead.
                        It is very difficult to intercept it even when it is on the simplest trajectory.
                        It was nice to chat hi
                      2. +1
                        2 June 2021 18: 38
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        Physics gets in the way.

                      3. +1
                        2 June 2021 20: 32
                        These are all fantasies. There are no false targets, no electronic warfare,
                        no maneuvering, no stealth.
                        None of this is needed. Missile defense and so it will be
                        kinetic damage to the rocket,
                        flying on such a high trajectory
                        with such great speed.
                        They will try to destroy the Iskander launchers,
                        and not the missiles themselves in flight.

                        There is a good ballistic missile capable of very fast,
                        faster than aviation, deliver 400 kg of explosives
                        or a nuclear charge exactly (with correction at the terminal section) at 400-600 km.
                      4. 0
                        3 June 2021 12: 16
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        These are all fantasies. There are no false targets, no electronic warfare,
                        no maneuvering, no stealth.


                        Quasi-heavy decoy is a special decoy that is lighter than the warhead, but mimics its trajectory. For this, it is equipped with its own solid-fuel after-acceleration motor to compensate for braking.

                        Plasma false target - a heavy false target, which includes a special plasma-forming charge, which, when burned, releases an amount of energy commensurate with that released when the warhead is decelerating. It is usually used as part of a quasi-heavy decoy target to compensate for the difference in glow from the heating of a real warhead and a decoy target. they can be made from different materials.
                      5. 0
                        2 June 2021 18: 53
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        Iskander missed even without the slightest maneuvering, along the simplest trajectory not to the maximum range.

                        There are several types of the Iskander complex:
                        Iskander, Iskander-M, Iskander-K, Iskander-E and several types of missiles for them, with different guidance methods.
                        What rockets are you writing about? or did all the rockets behave the same way?
              2. +1
                2 June 2021 14: 22
                performed correction both by ANN and by radar data.

                How much did Pershing's speed decrease at that moment?

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                1. 0
                  2 June 2021 20: 40
                  The speed decreased many times. From high hypersound to supersonic.
                  Braking on the atmosphere, plus forced braking.
                  Otherwise, the GOS could not work.
            2. -1
              2 June 2021 21: 39
              Have you seen Pugachev's Cobra? So Iskander can do that, or whatever takes off from him.
              Apparently, immediately after takeoff, the rocket takes on the shape of a ball. And then she is not afraid of any overloads - she can maneuver 180 degrees, 5 or 6 times.
        2. 0
          2 June 2021 12: 35
          They write that at the final section Iskander can withstand overloads of 20-30 gA when maneuvering your miracle against missiles, how much can they withstand? laughing
          1. -2
            2 June 2021 12: 43
            Iskander has no maneuvering in the final section. Otherwise, he will miss the target.
            There is a correction at the last kilometer with the help of the seeker.
            It reduces the KVO from 50-100 to 10 m.
            Missile defense missiles intercept ballistic missiles in the middle-end of the middle section
            on an oncoming trajectory.
            It is very difficult to intercept Iskander.
            1. 0
              2 June 2021 12: 52
              I'm talking about Iskander maneuvering when overcoming missile defense, overloads of 20 30 g, which means that the interceptor missile must withstand an order of magnitude more overload. I am interested in the limit of your missiles. Or look in the tyrnet.
        3. +2
          2 June 2021 13: 09
          The Iskander missile (9M723) is controllable throughout the entire flight path and, accordingly, maneuvers ... Most intensively maneuvers at the initial and final ... "Slight wiggle" maneuver? Oh well...
          1. 0
            2 June 2021 20: 51
            Iskander all fuel burns out during the first 30-40 seconds of flight.
            This is overclocking. Further, the rocket flies by inertia, gradually slowing down.
            If the rocket is turned / deployed by a maneuver, then it will lose all its speed,
            received in the first 40 seconds. There is nothing to compensate for the loss of speed.
            Iskander is a single-stage ballistic missile. There is no second step.
            And after the maneuver, the missile will no longer reach the target.
            1. +1
              2 June 2021 21: 27
              Quote: voyaka uh
              And after the maneuver, the missile will no longer reach the target.

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              Strange, but still FITS !!! AND HOW do you explain this?
            2. 0
              2 June 2021 23: 32
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Iskander's fuel burns out during the first 30-40 seconds of the flight.
              This is overclocking. Further, the rocket flies by inertia, gradually slowing down.

              All this is so .... And in this "state" not every maneuver is available to "Iskander" ... But you forget that the 9M723 rocket has not only "gas-jet" rudders, but also aerodynamic ones ... when the solid propellant engine "burns out"! To make it "easier" to understand this, I will give "examples" ...: 1. "Hermes" ... The first stage accelerates the second and separates .... Then the second stage flies "sama-sama" without an engine, but it is controlled ... 2. "Carapace" ... the same ...! 3. SAMs ... for example, complexes s-300/400 ... after acceleration (burnout of solid propellants), the SAM flies by inertia, but is controlled! It is controlled until a certain "moment", as long as there is a "supply of energy" (sufficient speed to allow the aerodynamic rudders to work ...) Not every maneuver is available for the missile defense system in this "state". but management is still there until a certain moment ...
        4. +4
          2 June 2021 21: 14
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "effectively maneuver" ///
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          At high speeds, effective maneuvering is hampered by inertial forces, which always work: both in space and in the atmosphere.

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          Dear "Warrior-uh"! Principles physics и theoretical mechanics - you will tell the graduates of the Jerusalem University! I - NOT I advise!
          If you object "essentially"- then please! If not ... then you better shut up!
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          slight "wiggle" by plus or minus 1-2 degrees from the main trajectory. This wiggle is calculated by computers and does little against missile defense.

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          Have you tried to write a program to calculate the "meeting point", depending on the speed and distance "target-missile" ??? Can you calculate the critical overload of the "interceptor missile" when maneuvering the "target" at a distance of 50 km and a speed of 5M and changing the trajectory by 1 (one!) Degree? And after the third maneuver? ...... Weak? bully
          PS So, don't hang spaghetti on my ears! You have for this Education will not be enough!!! hi
    7. 0
      2 June 2021 13: 08
      So we can still talk about a new cruise missile for Iskander, and not a ballistic one?) And stealth and maneuverability will be applied.
    8. 0
      2 June 2021 16: 48
      Well, Iskander seems to be maneuvering on the trajectory due to gas rudders, if I'm not mistaken, but the coverage ... what's the problem? will be, it's too late to twitch there ..
      1. 0
        2 June 2021 23: 40
        Quote: Barberry25
        Well, Iskander seems to be maneuvering on the trajectory due to gas rudders, if I'm not mistaken, but the coverage ... but what's the problem?

        Iskander maneuvers due to aerodynamic rudders too ... A polymer coating of the rocket body that absorbs radio radiation is available "from the beginning" ... In the latter "case", it may mean an improved (!) Radio-absorbing coating ...
        1. 0
          3 June 2021 09: 22
          laughing well, in fact, I don't have access ... but whether it was improved or old at the new plant, they were poured into banks (lol) I don't know
    9. +1
      2 June 2021 18: 07
      recourse Probably, the whole stealth of Iskander (and other complexes) lies in the fact that: it is used in few places, it is sold to few people, the wheeled chassis allows you to move missiles from one place to another, and of course remind potential recipients of the parcel.
  6. HAM
    +1
    2 June 2021 10: 08
    It becomes somehow uncomfortable when they talk about "unparalleled in the world", "invulnerable to anti-missiles", etc., you have to be more modest .... they boast, basically, those who have little understanding of this ... specialists are modestly silent ...
    This should come as a surprise to the enemy ...
    1. +2
      2 June 2021 16: 52
      winked not quite so .. communicating general performance characteristics to the enemy will force him to enter data into the model, which will automatically lower the chances of starting a database .. and the best war is the one that was avoided ..
  7. -6
    2 June 2021 10: 22
    This innovative product is called invulnerable.
    Therefore, the Natosrovites immediately start shaking with convulsions. laughing , from just one mention! laughing
    1. 0
      2 June 2021 21: 52
      Are they shaking like 2 faces in your comment?
      They have 2 times more such missiles, but they should be afraid.
  8. +3
    2 June 2021 10: 38
    The rocket, according to calculations, flies 500 km. And by order of the party for 1500! After visiting Stalin's office, it turned out that the rocket was flying 5000 km laughing
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  10. +5
    2 June 2021 11: 01
    Not so much stealth, how much does the quantity matter, the closest American counterparts - MGM-168A ATACMS Block 2 - 4A, are much more in arsenals.
  11. +2
    2 June 2021 11: 05
    At the same time, he moves along a complex trajectory, dodging enemy anti-missiles and striking ground targets.

    Well, how does the author imagine this?
    It flies, which means that in the process of flight it strikes, like a bomber or attack aircraft.
    1. +1
      2 June 2021 12: 03
      Quote: Anton
      At the same time, he moves along a complex trajectory, dodging enemy anti-missiles and striking ground targets.

      Well, how does the author imagine this?
      It flies, which means that in the process of flight it strikes, like a bomber or attack aircraft.


      You do not.
      Missile evasion without a radar system is nonsense.
      You can, of course, program a flight along a complex trajectory, but this is also close to nonsense.
      The concept of using OTRK is the principle of an ultra-fast strike against targets that require an immediate solution.
      The fastest flight path.
      Accordingly, the most optimal flight trajectory is taken.
      The introduction of the principle of Indian dances into the flight trajectory will not give anything except an increase in flight time and a decrease in range - in principle.

      And yes.
      The introduction of various coatings of a solid-propellant hypersonic missile that reduce visibility using radar is the same nonsense.
      First, the coating will be instantly "blown away" by the air stream.
      Secondly, the visibility of such a missile by modern radars is no longer on the hull, but on atmospheric disturbances caused by the operation of a rather large rocket engine.

      Modern radars, even without seeing the aircraft itself, are guaranteed to see disturbances in the atmosphere caused by the operation of aircraft engines.
    2. +1
      2 June 2021 21: 55
      And it evades using the forces of the Coulomb interaction of molecules.
  12. 0
    2 June 2021 12: 44
    And what are these two types of CD and five ballistic ones?
  13. +2
    2 June 2021 21: 11
    Gentlemen, explain to the dull, how can you maneuver along a complex trajectory in supersonic?
    I understand a difficult acrobatic jump. Maybe the author wrote the first extra letter in a complicated word?
    1. +1
      3 June 2021 02: 10
      Iskander can do anything! laughing
      After being coated with a secret stealth coating, powerful quantum forces are infused into it
      entanglement.
      And he can even write out dead loops while being in different places at the same time.
      He creates (from himself) false targets, deceives electronic warfare, easily bends around missile defense missiles,
      sometimes even knocking them down with a sudden release of the gas-dynamic rudder.

      Read: "New Adventures of Iskander" - in our next scientific article. fellow
  14. 0
    2 October 2021 00: 37
    Quote: Vol4ara
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Only a narrow circle of rocket specialists can calculate on paper how many kilometers an Iskander can fly theoretically. But knowing our saying "in reserve", can there be surprises?

    Are you seriously? Yes, here on every second you will now calculate everything and build application analytics for 3 years in advance

    That's for sure! And they will teach the designers. The main thing is that the sofa does not smoke.
  15. 0
    2 October 2021 00: 38
    Quote: HAM
    It becomes somehow uncomfortable when they talk about "unparalleled in the world", "invulnerable to anti-missiles", etc., you have to be more modest .... they boast, basically, those who have little understanding of this ... specialists are modestly silent ...
    This should come as a surprise to the enemy ...

    Specialists are silent, because it is useless for dunce to prove something.