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The US Navy decided to write off the Mark VI patrol boats

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The US Navy will nevertheless write off the newest patrol boats of the Mark VI project, a decision has been made on this. This is reported by The Drive with reference to the budget request for 2022.


History with "write off - do not write off" the Mark VI patrol boats may end on the decision to write off. The US Navy has made an official decision to get rid of 12 boats, the oldest of which is only six years old. On the possible write-off of boats in the command fleet announced in February this year, in April the US Navy changed its mind and here is another statement - "we officially refuse."

Moreover, according to the publication, instead of these boats, the US Navy will not buy anything, but will assign their responsibilities to other ships of the Navy and the Coast Guard.

This news can greatly please Ukraine, which is clearly "aiming" at these boats in addition to the 16 that Kiev has already agreed with Washington.

Earlier, the Pentagon announced plans to sell 16 Mk VI boats to Ukraine, totaling $ 600 million, including crew training and technical support. The first six US boats will be handed over to the Ukrainian Navy as assistance, the remaining ten will be bought by Kiev at its own expense. At the same time, it is specified that the delivery of the first two boats will be financed within the framework of the military aid allocated to Ukraine. All boats for Ukraine should be of new construction, the first two have already been laid.

In addition to 16 boats, the United States will supply them with weapons: 32 MSI Seahawk A2 remote-controlled artillery mounts (two per boat) with 30-mm Mk 44 Bushmaster II automatic cannons and other equipment.

The total displacement of the boat is 72 tons, length 25,8 m, width 6,2 m and draft 1,2 m. Max. speed - 45 knots. The cruising range is 690 miles at a speed of 30 knots. The crew of the boat is 10-11 people + a possible landing of 7-8 people.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 30 May 2021 13: 50
    +4
    Somewhere on Bankova Street, a small, slightly burr-out boy is happily rubbing his sweaty palms ... laughing
    1. credo
      credo 30 May 2021 13: 53
      +8
      Quote: Finches
      Somewhere on Bankova Street one little boy will happily lose his sweaty shoes ...

      In addition to Ukraine, NATO still has a bunch of freeloaders who want to get sweets for free.
      The list of such freeloaders can be safely started with Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and further down the list.
      So, in the queue, the parasites, in the queue.
      1. Finches
        Finches 30 May 2021 13: 54
        -1
        The one with the roughest tongue wins! laughing
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 35
          -1
          who has the roughest tongue! laughing
          excellent performance of the required program ... laughing
          1. venik
            venik 30 May 2021 21: 17
            -2
            Quote: Intruder
            who has the roughest tongue! laughing
            excellent performance of the required program ... laughing

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            good As many as 16 boats !? And even with 30-mm cannons ?! belay The Black Sea Fleet must "tremble" ..... But for some reason it does not "tremble"! ..... Why? There is no need to explain - it’s clear!
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 30 May 2021 22: 20
              -1
              good As many as 16 boats !?
              no, about the language .., but 16 boats, let's go as a bonus !!! wink
              1. venik
                venik 30 May 2021 23: 53
                0
                Greetings, Denis!
                Quote: Intruder
                and 16 boats, let's go as a bonus !!!

                =========
                As they say in Odessa: "Yes, my God!" Or "Mom, do not worry.!"
                lol drinks
                PS "Hello" to "minusers"! We still MORE !!! wassat
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 31 May 2021 09: 32
                  0
                  As they say in Odessa: "Oh my God!" Or "Mom, don't cry!"
                  Exactly, especially the sparkling Odessa humor good
                  PS Well, minusers are a part of our Universe, without them the rest would be a little bored at VO !? repeat
      2. Peak
        Peak 30 May 2021 14: 03
        +1
        Quote: credo
        In addition to Ukraine, NATO still has a bunch of freeloaders who want to get sweets for free.

        Cheese, free, does not exist yes
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 30 May 2021 14: 46
          -3
          Ukraine was lucky! 12 almost new boats! Nearly laughing FREE! laughing laughing laughing
          1. novel66
            novel66 30 May 2021 14: 51
            +2
            will lock the Caspian
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 30 May 2021 14: 53
              -1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              will lock the Caspian

              Will they succeed? lol
              1. novel66
                novel66 30 May 2021 14: 55
                +1
                if they want, they will not have time, of course, by dry route soon ...
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 30 May 2021 15: 05
                  -2
                  Roman, I'm not talking about that ... smile
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 30 May 2021 15: 09
                    +2
                    dreams, dreams ... we have been waiting since 14, Vladimir
          2. venik
            venik 30 May 2021 21: 23
            +1
            Greetings, namesake!
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            Ukraine was lucky! 12 almost new boats! Nearly laughing FREE! laughing laughing laughing

            ======
            The key word, as I understand it: "almost"?!
            Well, what can you do: "Freebie, sir!" drinks laughing lol
        2. venik
          venik 30 May 2021 21: 20
          +2
          Quote: PiK
          Cheese, free, does not exist

          ========
          It happens, it happens! laughing Only he is in the mousetrap! lol drinks
      3. URAL72
        URAL72 30 May 2021 14: 19
        +6
        Everything is clear with freeloaders, but what about boats? Why write off? Apparently, as with the Hummers, they did not meet expectations. And let Ukraine buy - there will be something to evacuate (skedaddle) from Odessa to Constanta.
      4. isv000
        isv000 30 May 2021 14: 25
        +3
        Today Nenka is his beloved wife. The base in Ochakov must be guarded ... love
      5. Asad
        Asad 30 May 2021 15: 49
        0
        All the same freeloaders that the USSR had 30 years ago, the sponsor has changed.
    2. Peak
      Peak 30 May 2021 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Finches
      Somewhere on Bankova Street, a small, slightly burr-out boy is happily rubbing his sweaty palms ...

      Malets, obviously from childhood learned what gesheft is, and now what ...
      Now, with such opportunities, he can turn things around in such a way that he and Petyunya will be envious.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 30 May 2021 14: 01
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      Somewhere on Bankova Street, a small, slightly burr-out boy is happily rubbing his sweaty palms ... laughing

      Amazing awareness for a "military signalman from the operational-strategic command and control level." yes
      But, better like this:
      Somewhere on Bankova Street in Kiev (or on Wall Street in New York) one small, slightly burr-out boy (or an adult, flabby and bald uncle) is happily rubbing his sweaty palms ...
      1. Finches
        Finches 30 May 2021 14: 04
        -4
        I regularly read the comments of professionals like you, so I am always in the subject! hi
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 30 May 2021 14: 07
          0
          Quote: Finches
          I also read the comments of professionals like you, so I am always in the subject!

          I know. You have already mentioned more than once both about "VO", and about preparation for the report ... I'm glad for you. Thank God, these problems are in the past for me. hi
          1. Finches
            Finches 30 May 2021 14: 10
            -4
            Newly connected comrades from your comment may think that we have a family showdown laughing
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 37
              -1
              Newly connected comrades from your comment may think that we are having a family showdown laughing
              You mean family? And this is not what one might think or a turn of speech, such ... wink lol
              1. Finches
                Finches 30 May 2021 15: 46
                +1
                The turn of speech, of course laughing
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 48
                  +1
                  The turn of speech, of course
                  Well, okay, otherwise it sounds so funny that it began to lead ... to sinful thoughts! lol
  2. credo
    credo 30 May 2021 13: 50
    +2
    The US Navy will nevertheless write off the newest patrol boats of the Mark VI project, a decision has been made on this. This is reported by The Drive with reference to the budget request for 2022.

    If you decide to write off and will not buy new products, then what does the budget request have to do with it?
    Obviously someone or something is not saying.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 30 May 2021 14: 06
      +2
      Quote: credo
      The US Navy will nevertheless write off the newest patrol boats of the Mark VI project, a decision has been made on this. This is reported by The Drive with reference to the budget request for 2022.

      If you decide to write off and will not buy new products, then what does the budget request have to do with it?
      Obviously someone or something is not saying.

      What is the contradiction?
      A budget request is a document prepared by the manager of budget funds, containing proposals with appropriate justifications for the amount of budget funds required for his activities for the next budget period. In other words, this is a request from the manager of budgetary funds for the appropriations he needs for the next budget period.

      Apparently, this "budget request-22" does not contain the line "buy N boats of type S for M million", as well as the line "L million to ensure the combat readiness of W boats of type F" is missing.
    2. isv000
      isv000 30 May 2021 14: 26
      -3
      The grandmothers will rip off Nenka, they will be drunk ... yes
  3. knn54
    knn54 30 May 2021 13: 54
    -1
    And to whom to sell useless, expensive to manufacture and maintain, with limited combat capabilities "small size." Roads first, then boats.
  4. Avior
    Avior 30 May 2021 13: 55
    +1
    Quite good universal boats for closed seas, but the Americans considered them small for the ocean, it seems
    1. Peak
      Peak 30 May 2021 14: 02
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      Quite good universal boats for closed seas, but the Americans considered them small for the ocean, it seems

      Yes, for the sea, that for the ocean, they are "coastal", coastal action in a very close ocean-sea coastal zone.
      That was why they were built, but the Americans did not get along with them at all, that the new ones are being written off practically for scrap.
      And they would have gone to the scrap, if there had not been beggars like Ukraine.
      1. Avior
        Avior 30 May 2021 14: 10
        +1
        The conditions in the ocean are in any case markedly different from the closed seas.
        Greater seaworthiness is required from ocean boats than for the Black and even more so for the Azov Sea.
        Americans generally have specific conditions, so the patrolmen are usually larger.
        1. Peak
          Peak 30 May 2021 14: 13
          +2
          Quote: Avior
          Americans generally have specific conditions, so the patrolmen are usually larger.

          Some are possibly larger for some special tasks, but since the 50s of the twentieth century they have been catching various illegal immigrants and smugglers with the "tulkin fleet" of the coast guard, with a displacement of +/- equal to this Mark. And there were no complaints about the "undersizedness" before.
          1. Avior
            Avior 30 May 2021 14: 40
            +2
            And you will notice how the displacement of patrol ships in the world in general and in the States in particular is growing over the years. Now the patrols are of such size that not like the corvettes, the frigates have already caught up. Gone are the days when people swam on shells on the ocean. You need seaworthiness, reliability, expanding the possibility of using weather conditions, comfort, in the end.
            In general, I was surprised that they used such boats, this clearly contradicts the trend.
          2. Intruder
            Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 45
            -2
            but various illegal immigrants and smugglers, since the 50s of the twentieth century, they have been caught by the "tulkin fleet" of the coast guard, with a displacement of +/- equal to this Mark
            They and civilian versions of aircraft are still used as patrolmen to combat smuggling and drug trafficking! yes
    2. Artemion3
      Artemion3 30 May 2021 14: 03
      +1
      Yes, they are, in principle, only for the coast guard, rather for the port
      1. Avior
        Avior 30 May 2021 14: 15
        +2
        For the port, they are too big, and unnecessarily armed, the Americans have specific conditions, they protect the oceans from real enemies, for the coastal in ocean conditions, they are too small
      2. Avior
        Avior 30 May 2021 14: 47
        +2
        In addition, as far as I understand, they were in the fleet, and not in the coast guard, patrol-sabotage
    3. Gato
      Gato 30 May 2021 14: 05
      0
      Decent universal boats for closed seas

      16 boats with almost zero combat value at a price approximately equal to the cost of 2 Ada-class corvettes. Ukraine is in the position of Buridan's donkey (although there is still no money)
      1. Asad
        Asad 30 May 2021 15: 44
        +2
        Can you tell us more about zero combat value?
        1. Gato
          Gato 30 May 2021 15: 55
          -1
          Can you tell us more about zero combat value?

          Can. What combat value is a 70-ton boat armed with a 30-mm cannon in the Black or Azov Sea, where a potential enemy has full-fledged warships and aircraft? What tasks will they be able to solve, except for purely police? They are too large for sabotage operations, and too small for landing operations.
          And all this happiness, I repeat, for the price of two corvettes.
          1. Asad
            Asad 30 May 2021 15: 59
            +3
            Below they write about two artillery mounts and six machine guns, with the possibility of installing missile weapons. Are they lying?
            1. Gato
              Gato 30 May 2021 16: 08
              -1
              two artillery mounts and six machine guns, with the possibility of installing missile weapons. Are they lying?

              Most likely. Look at the photo of this dreadnought: I, of course, am not a naval specialist, but I have no idea where you can put 2 AU and PU anti-ship missiles there. Is that to supply ATGM and give the crew MANPADS. But for that kind of money, you can buy several normal missile boats.
              1. Avior
                Avior 30 May 2021 22: 09
                +1
                Where are you going to buy a normal missile boat for 23 million?
    4. isv000
      isv000 30 May 2021 14: 28
      0
      The key words "closed sea" are just about Azov ... bully
    5. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 30 May 2021 21: 52
      -2
      Quote: Avior
      patrol boats of the Mark VI project

      This is just right for Israel! Drive the Falestinians ...
  5. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 30 May 2021 14: 03
    +1
    The US Navy decided to write off the Mark VI patrol boats

    Without reading the article. The first thought was about another financial scam for Ukraine.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 30 May 2021 14: 03
    +2
    What's wrong with the boats?
    1. Peak
      Peak 30 May 2021 14: 06
      -6
      Quote: rocket757
      What's wrong with the boats?

      We'll have them as trophies, we'll find out what's wrong with them.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 42
        -2
        We'll have them as trophies, we'll find out
        at the bottom, trophies are not needed ... wink
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 30 May 2021 16: 13
        0
        The Yankees will not leave anything fundamentally new to them .. and so, the boat is like a boat.
    2. cniza
      cniza 30 May 2021 14: 10
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      What's wrong with the boats?


      Apparently useless and expensive to maintain and maintain ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 May 2021 16: 11
        +1
        In general, they carry out cost optimization ... it is logical.
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 May 2021 17: 05
          +3
          So they will also sell at a profit ...
    3. hohol95
      hohol95 30 May 2021 14: 33
      +2
      News of the month of February. The Americans themselves argue about their high cost of service.
      And useless in a confrontation with the Russian Federation or China.
      1. Asad
        Asad 30 May 2021 15: 45
        0
        How will they get to Russia?
  7. cniza
    cniza 30 May 2021 14: 08
    +1
    This news can greatly delight Ukraine, which is clearly "aiming" at these boats in addition to the 16 that Kiev has already agreed with Washington.


    With this money, one could buy something serious, for example, a couple of corvettes, but apparently the kickbacks are very sweet ...
  8. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 30 May 2021 14: 12
    -6
    Here you go ! EzalEjnoy's fleet will be replenished with another rusty crowbar. There are also toilets.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 30 May 2021 15: 41
      -5
      There are also toilets.
      and even a condo, with glass holders ... yes
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 May 2021 14: 14
    -2
    Why only Ukraine, the Baltic "tigers", Romanians, Bulgarians. The winner will be the one who will tell them that Russia was the first to write them out. There is such competition. Something tells me that the guns will be removed. This is not a "toy." British missiles.
  10. Evil 55
    Evil 55 30 May 2021 14: 41
    -1
    Has the line of old beggars already been formed? "Potheads" among the leaders?
  11. rudolff
    rudolff 30 May 2021 15: 12
    +12
    Quite a normal deal for Ukraine. If you believe the announced figures, it turns out 37,5 million green for the boat. And taking into account the fact that Kiev pays only for ten units, as a result, 375 million for 16 brand new boats. That is, 23,5 per unit. This is from those. support, training, weapons. In terms of performance characteristics, the boats are excellent. Two artillery mounts, up to six machine guns on turrets, the ability to install missile weapons, space for eight people for an inspection group or landing party. Well, the speed is over 40 knots. They will drink a lot of blood from our border guards. Bulk on such a boat will not work. If only to shoot, but they can snap back as well. It will also be difficult to destroy such a small and high-speed target, since anti-aircraft missiles are needed here. If they decide to buy more units from stock, the price tag for the used one will be different. In short, for the Black Sea Fleet this is certainly not a mortal threat, but there will be hemorrhoids with them for sure. These are not Ukrainian armored vehicles at all.
    1. Asad
      Asad 30 May 2021 15: 52
      +5
      Probably the first adequate comment!
    2. K150
      K150 30 May 2021 17: 05
      -4
      And what kind of hemorrhoids ?! The armament is weak (a couple of cannons and machine guns), again, too small for a patrolman, there is no hint of a container for an anti-aircraft missile system, do you want to sink corvettes with piles? That's just a hike, lovers of Ukraine gathered, to whom will he drink blood ?! If he climbs, then the Navy will already have the case, and not the local fishery supervision. There, by the way, they said about the price that you can buy 1-2 Turkish corvettes for such grandmas. Corvettes are a problem, not a tub with 2 cannons, which in terms of fire density is far behind the ak-230 / ak-630, which are everywhere in our fleet for a campaign.
    3. markant1970
      markant1970 30 May 2021 17: 18
      -3
      Fixed price for Ukraine $ 19969119
    4. ibn.shamai
      ibn.shamai 30 May 2021 17: 28
      -1
      If these are such cool boats, then why do the Americans want to write them off? And even their sides are rather low, to walk along the rivers or what?
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 30 May 2021 20: 15
        +1
        If I'm not mistaken, they are not on the Coast Guard, but in the Navy. Support for the main forces in the coastal zone. But for this purpose, taking into account the fact that the Americans have an open ocean coast, they are really small and of little use. They are too stuffed and expensive for the Coast Guard. But why they were not handed over to some kind of commandos or seals to carry out special operations, this is a question. Although ... the rich have their own habits. MTRs are already bathed in oil in terms of supply. The Americans themselves do not know what they want in the coastal zone. These boats are not the first bump. One can recall littoral experiments. Well, for Ukraine, boats are almost the limit of possibilities. They only dream of RTOs or corvettes so far.
        As for the seaworthiness of these boats, I think there will be 3 points. For example, RTOs have seaworthiness in terms of navigation safety of 5-6 points, seaworthiness in the use of weapons 3-4 points.
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    6. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 30 May 2021 18: 12
      0
      rudolff (rudolff)Quite a normal deal for Ukraine. If you believe the announced figures, it turns out 37,5 million green for the boat. And taking into account the fact that Kiev pays only for ten units, as a result, 375 million for 16 brand new boats. That is, 23,5 per unit. This is from those. support, training, weapons. In terms of performance characteristics, the boats are excellent. Two artillery mounts, up to six machine guns on turrets, the ability to install missile weapons, space for eight people for an inspection group or landing party. Well, the speed is over 40 knots. They will drink a lot of blood from our border guards. Bulk on such a boat will not work. If only to shoot, but they can snap back as well.

      Add to these the PKA, 20 PKA under construction according to the French project for the BOKHR of Ukraine and 8 RCA with 8 SCRC each (or 6 RCA and 2 TSC), according to the British project ...
      The ships under construction and existing Ukrainian Navy for the time being can be placed in unprepared home locations ... or in the locations of security guards ....
      When it comes to the PCBOKHR and URO Corvettes, you will have to build the infrastructure already appropriate for them ...
      For some reason, it is not written on VO, where crews are now being trained for ships under construction and transferred ...
      1. Old Man
        Old Man 31 May 2021 17: 31
        +1
        as where? you yourself write "with technical support, training, arming" so that they will be trained there, over the hill, and kickbacks to officials. And there will be no need to come up with reasons why a certain official once again in the United States went to the state account.
  12. markant1970
    markant1970 30 May 2021 15: 41
    -1
    Good boats for their class, and if with 'Family Guy', then generally a song
  13. Dikson
    Dikson 30 May 2021 15: 43
    +2
    72 tons and 45 knots .. Pts not bad .. for the border service - the very thing .. and it might not be weak .. this is not one "Kord" .. the only thing is that it may be cold in the Black Sea ..
    1. Asad
      Asad 30 May 2021 15: 53
      0
      Bebasto will be installed.
  14. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 30 May 2021 17: 19
    -1
    Judging by the photos, these boats will only be able to sail along the river. In the sea, the very first wave will simply drown them! lol
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 May 2021 22: 12
      +1
      they are swimming in the ocean now, until none of them drowned.
  15. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 May 2021 17: 33
    0
    What's wrong with the boats?
    If they are AMg, then yes. Six years...
    And there are suspicions on the performance characteristics that they are AMg.
    Then of course. I would not consider them for purchase.
  16. Black lotos
    Black lotos 30 May 2021 19: 33
    -1
    dancing with these boats is one thing.
    But to think whether they will get to Ukraine or not is still an open question.
    There will be information from the United States that will be, then it is worth writing and thinking.
    And although they are expensive to maintain, the weapon itself is much more serious than the local Gyurz. And more technologically advanced. What is more useful for self-development.
    But they are also more expensive. And the family guy will also be difficult.
    But 16 for Azov is too much .... there are not so many goals.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 30 May 2021 20: 05
      0
      More, no less.
      At worst, they will go for spare parts.
      Cases Lumin or steel?
      Honestly, I'm too lazy to look.
      Most likely - Lumin ...
    2. rudolff
      rudolff 30 May 2021 20: 23
      +1
      Not only for Azov. They will be divided into 2-4 divisions, one will be placed in Berdyansk, the rest from the Crimea to Odessa.
  17. Old Man
    Old Man 31 May 2021 17: 26
    0
    Something tells me that these ships were intended for the pursuit of drug boats, because 30mm, 45 knots, and landing. Ukraine, they are only useful for sabotage against fishermen. Or do they also have a problem with smuggling, but such that they needed purely artillery boats with a price like a small airliner?