"Russia again failed to fulfill its obligations": Bulgaria accused the Russian Federation of a delay in the repair of MiG-29 fighters

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"Russia again failed to fulfill its obligations": Bulgaria accused the Russian Federation of a delay in the repair of MiG-29 fighters

In the last days of the work of the previous Bulgarian government, on April 28, the Ministry of Defense quietly signed an additional agreement with the Russian corporation MiG, within the framework of which a new delay was recorded in the repair of fighters. At least that's what Bulgaria itself says.

Within the framework of the agreements reached, force majeure circumstances are indicated that prevent the execution of the contract on time.



We are talking about serious delays due to the coronavirus, as well as the inability to send Russian specialists to the Graf Ignatievo airbase due to measures against the epidemic.

- noted in the Bulgarian edition "Capital".

Now the Russian manufacturer is given additional time (17 months) "to fulfill their obligations." The statement is strange, especially if we talk about the fact that the Bulgarian itself closed the borders due to the pandemic for the entry of technical specialists. In this regard, the question is, who exactly

Earlier, a contract was signed with the Russian Federation worth $ 6 million, providing for the extension of the service life of 10 RD-33 engines, which are equipped with the MiG-29 of the Bulgarian Air Force. In total, it is planned to use five vehicles of this type, while the F-2024 will take over on combat duty in 16.

Until then, Bulgaria is likely to be forced to resort to the services of the Russian Federation to repair the MiG-29

- stated in the publication, explaining that when repairing fighters in Poland or Ukraine, "our country runs the risk of getting bogged down in legal disputes."

Moreover, the corresponding threats have already been received when Bulgaria ordered work in Poland in 2015. In connection with the agreement with Warsaw, criminal proceedings were opened against the then Minister of Defense Nikolai Nenchev, he was acquitted only this year.

Due to constant delays in the repair of the Bulgarian MiG-29, a lawsuit was filed against the manufacturer in the amount of almost 1 million euros. However, in the end, the claims were only partially recognized - for about 186 thousand euros.

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  1. +37
    27 May 2021 14: 12
    Hello! Garage!
    What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
    Doesn't it press anywhere?
    1. +25
      27 May 2021 14: 17
      Quote: Victor_B
      What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
      Doesn't it press anywhere?

      You don't understand ... This is DIFFERENT! laughing
      1. +15
        27 May 2021 14: 24
        another surprise) why our specialists, knowing about the similar practice of "former allies", and now small tobaccos in the camp of the sherkhan, still conclude such service agreements with the enemy, in fact))
        so it turns out later that ours behave in such situations, like an Alzheimer patient in a brothel ... they do not understand why they have them and at the same time demand some money
        1. +12
          27 May 2021 14: 38
          why our specialists, knowing about this practice of "former allies", and now small tobacco in the camp of sherkhanstill enter into such service contracts with enemy, in fact))


          Because "enemy" is for TV ..
          And so our "specialists" will gladly buy their own housing from Tabaka, and they will stretch the pipe to any Sherkhan ..
          You are asking the right questions .. the truth is somewhere nearby ..))
        2. +2
          28 May 2021 14: 19
          another surprise) why our specialists, knowing about the similar practice of "former allies", and now small tobaccos in the camp of the sherkhan, still conclude such service agreements with the enemy, in fact))


          Bulgaria is not an enemy to us, but our military-industrial complex needs money, and government orders alone will not go far.

          6 million dollars what are the extra milking MiG?

          They will not buy from us, they will buy from the USA, and who will lose more from this?
          1. +1
            28 May 2021 16: 08
            6 million dollars what are the extra milking MiG?

            Just one clarification, important to Ratmir hi : The entire contract for € 41.565 million. There is 1 framework consisting of 5 separate sub-contracts. hi
            1. +1
              28 May 2021 20: 17
              I hope everything will go well and Bulgaria will receive its MiG-29s that have been repaired.

              They are still F-16 that you bought in the United States will survive)).

              The Poles have 48 F-16s, and they fly on the MiG-29.
              1. 0
                28 May 2021 22: 09
                I hope everything will go well and Bulgaria will receive its MiG-29s that have been repaired.

                Sure! I have no doubt! After all, the contracts were extended. I hope it will not work like with "Vikramayanta", all the same the matter is not difficult.

                They are still F-16 that you bought in the USA will survive)). The Poles have 48 F-16s, and they fly on the MiG-29.

                MiG-29 is a good car. But nothing lasts forever in this world. Our MiGs have served for over 30 years. We received them in 89-90, from those located / used / in combat units of the USSR Air Force. After repairs, they will serve up the residual resource and in 4-5 years they will go on a well-deserved rest. They did their duty. They are being replaced by new, more modern ones. hi
      2. -3
        27 May 2021 14: 35
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: Victor_B
        What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
        Doesn't it press anywhere?

        You don't understand ... This is DIFFERENT! laughing

        In the sense? Now it is not necessary to fulfill contracts between two subjects because someone else violated something?
        1. +12
          27 May 2021 15: 05
          Quote: professor
          Now it is not necessary to fulfill contracts between two subjects because someone else violated something?

          Who broke it?
          We are talking about serious delays due to the coronavirus, as well as the inability to send Russian specialists to the Graf Ignatievo airbase due to measures against the epidemic
          It is not yet possible to remotely repair the equipment.
          1. -13
            27 May 2021 15: 19
            Quote: NIKNN
            Quote: professor
            Now it is not necessary to fulfill contracts between two subjects because someone else violated something?

            Who broke it?
            We are talking about serious delays due to the coronavirus, as well as the inability to send Russian specialists to the Graf Ignatievo airbase due to measures against the epidemic
            It is not yet possible to remotely repair the equipment.

            The court made it clear who violated. However, this is not about that, but about an attempt to write off the backlog in the fulfillment of the contract for South Stream and other irrelevant events.
        2. +10
          27 May 2021 16: 43
          Quote: professor
          Now it is not necessary to fulfill contracts between two subjects because someone else violated something?

          Strange, but the French, for example, think that it is not necessary. Who is interested, taught them this?
          1. -12
            27 May 2021 19: 24
            Quote: Zefr
            Quote: professor
            Now it is not necessary to fulfill contracts between two subjects because someone else violated something?

            Strange, but the French, for example, think that it is not necessary. Who is interested, taught them this?

            Take them to court if they have violated. Or was there a cancellation clause in the contract?
        3. +2
          27 May 2021 19: 26
          Quote: professor
          In what sense?

          In the sense - force majeure! It's an epidemic, it's hard to turn the nuts at a distance ... It's almost impossible, you know ...
        4. +1
          28 May 2021 08: 19
          There, it seems, everything is under the agreement ... the postponement of the deadline due to the Coronavirus ... why the whole dispute?
          1. 0
            29 May 2021 07: 13
            For Polish repairmen, there will probably be changes in coronavirus severity and leniency.
    2. +10
      27 May 2021 14: 26
      what are you rushing to the wrong place
      I have other questions - if there is an agreement with a corporation, what does Russia have to do with it?
      and the second question - the majority of specialists are outside the age of significant risks.
      Why they were detained in quarantine is not entirely clear.
      1. 0
        27 May 2021 16: 15
        ... that most professionals are outside the age of significant risk. Why they were detained in quarantine is not entirely clear.

        As far as I remember, more than 400 Russian specialists came to Bulgaria during this period to work on the Balkan Stream site. All of them were in quarantine for 2 weeks. That is, there is no ban on the part of the Bulgarian authorities, and 2 weeks is not so long.
        It should be noted that in the case of RSK MiG, it may well be a question of a refusal on the part of the Russian authorities. They have the right not to let on business trips because of the threat to health, specialists of different profiles. The author of the article did not provide details. request
        1. +8
          27 May 2021 16: 59
          And you in Bulgaria also keep American military specialists who arrive at US / NATO military bases in quarantine, or is it not permissible in relation to the owners?
          1. -5
            27 May 2021 18: 33
            And you in Bulgaria also keep American military specialists who arrive at US / NATO military bases in quarantine, or is it not permissible in relation to the owners?

            1. There are no foreign military bases in Bulgaria. there is "war and go around for a joint poll", that is, training range for joint training of HP, the property of the Republic of Belarus.
            2.Absolutely everyone who came to the country during the pandemic was quarantined for 2 weeks. This applies to both Bulgarian citizens and foreigners.
            3.What do you care who we have in quarantine?
    3. +9
      27 May 2021 14: 27
      Quote: Victor_B
      Hello! Garage!
      What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
      Doesn't it press anywhere?

      I wonder if there is at least some positive news from Bulgaria so that we would be at least a little pleasant?
      1. -3
        27 May 2021 14: 38
        Quote: credo
        Quote: Victor_B
        Hello! Garage!
        What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
        Doesn't it press anywhere?

        I wonder if there is at least some positive news from Bulgaria so that we would be at least a little pleasant?

        VO does not publish positive news from the following countries:
        -Ukraine,
        -Bulgaria
        -George
        -Czech Republic
        and further down the list.
        1. +8
          27 May 2021 14: 40
          Quote: professor
          VO does not publish positive news from the following countries:
          -Ukraine,
          -Bulgaria
          -George
          -Czech Republic
          and further down the list.

          So can you write something, if of course there is something positive to write from the above countries?
          1. -8
            27 May 2021 15: 17
            Of course, there are positive developments in these countries from the point of view of these countries themselves, but not the Russian Federation. Therefore, they do not write about these events. As for me, it's not a writer here anymore. I recommend starting monitoring Defense News,
            Breaking Defense, www.janes.com.
            Around Bulgaria https://bulgarianmilitary.com

            There are tons of interesting and informative forums out there.
            1. +4
              27 May 2021 15: 24
              Quote: professor
              ... There are tons of interesting and informative forums out there.

              About what? How cool and wonderful is that Georgia and Ukraine have visa-free travel with the EU countries, or that the Czech Republic and Bulgaria have abandoned the construction of Russian NPP projects on their territory?
              1. -7
                27 May 2021 15: 27
                Quote: credo
                About what? How cool and wonderful that Georgia has

                there is no MOT for cars, and road accidents have not decreased ... for some reason!
                1. +3
                  28 May 2021 01: 41
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  there is no MOT for cars, and road accidents have not decreased ... for some reason!

                  Maybe because it has increased? wassat Not?
              2. -6
                27 May 2021 16: 52
                or that the Czech Republic and Bulgaria refused to build Russian NPP projects on their territory?

                Indeed, how do you know that:
                1.O no final refusal to build Russian AES projects In the Czech Republic, there is no talk! The decision concerns a temporary refusal with a term of 2022 until the end of the term of the current energy regulator. It's like "pre-order"! The NPP itself should begin construction by 2030-35, so that it will be operational by 2040. The tender will be held in 5-10 years. Rossat, as it was, and remains without an alternative, since the terms of reference are sharpened specifically for it, not one of the competitors' reactors fits in the conditions!
                2. Belene NPP, designed in 1981! Since then, the price has risen by 9 times in comparison with the original cost! Has turned into a bottomless pit! In 2013, a referendum was held in Bulgaria (it was called "nuclear") on the continuation of construction! The adherents did not collect the majority and the project was frozen. While the situation remains unclear, the authorities are looking for funding opportunities, as well as alternative solutions.
                In ru-media, they don't write that way, right? bully
                1. -2
                  28 May 2021 10: 08
                  hi
                  Quote: pytar
                  In ru-media, they don't write that way, right?

                  In rus-media, they write more about the fact that the Russian Federation is a besieged fortress, but despite this, welfare is growing, the economy is showing a small but steady growth, and our permanent "leaders" are thinking better and better of us.)))) )
                  1. 0
                    28 May 2021 12: 35
                    In rus-media they write more about the fact that the Russian Federation is a besieged fortress

                    Yeah ... "the enemy is about to attack"! laughing
                    our permanent "leaders", they think of us better and better.)))))

                    When a person is well fed, good thoughts and good intentions come to his head. Truth and flax is added, so everything remains in the sphere of intentions. I dined deliciously, drank a cup of wine drinks and the world began to look kinder! fellow
              3. -8
                27 May 2021 19: 25
                Quote: credo
                Quote: professor
                ... There are tons of interesting and informative forums out there.

                About what? How cool and wonderful is that Georgia and Ukraine have visa-free travel with the EU countries, or that the Czech Republic and Bulgaria have abandoned the construction of Russian NPP projects on their territory?

                About the army, military equipment, military-industrial complex, etc.
              4. +2
                27 May 2021 22: 23
                Czech Republic and Bulgaria abandoned the construction of Russian NPP projects

                where are they going from the long arm of the market.
                they write to you in the Czech Republic -
                The decision concerns a temporary refusal with a term of 2022 until the end of the term of the current energy regulator.

                not. they have something else.
                the procedure is as follows:
                1) Americans like the Czechs bend over - the conflict - the government's ban on the construction of a Russian nuclear power plant
                2) government elections
                3) a tender for a nuclear power plant, and
                Rossat, as it was, and remains without an alternative, since the terms of reference are sharpened specifically for it, not one of the competitors' reactors fits in the conditions!
                - It's right. In the Czech Republic, a conglomerate of enterprises, working from the very beginning of the industry only with the USSR-Russia, themselves manufacture TVEL components, equipment for nuclear units, reactor vessels for themselves and for other countries, including for the Bulgarian Belene - who is on his own they will beat - they will unscrew the head.
            2. +1
              27 May 2021 16: 53
              Quote: professor
              There are tons of interesting and informative forums out there.

              for example, a Ukrainian peacemaker
        2. +3
          27 May 2021 16: 46
          And george - where are the dahlias or geo-orgies?
          1. 0
            28 May 2021 10: 43
            Quote: yehat2
            And george - where are the dahlias or geo-orgies?

            And Georgia today is considered one of the best countries for freelancers from Russia. If, of course, you mean it. Inexpensive life, excellent cuisine, lots of sun, warm attitude towards Russians, good internet, etc.
            1. -1
              28 May 2021 11: 02
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              warm attitude towards Russians

              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              excellent cuisine

              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Inexpensive life

              something I'm not very sure about
              1. 0
                28 May 2021 11: 12
                Quote: yehat2
                something I'm not very sure about

                There is such a thing, freelancers with an income of up to 1000 euros are beginning to think about where to go from their "Uryupinsk", to the warmth, etc. Bali, Spain and so on, while a little expensive. So they look towards the Baltics, Vietnam, Georgia, etc. There are a lot of reviews, I read about Georgia on Habré, in my opinion. And so, I had a friend from there, I talked a couple of years ago. There is no zoological malice towards the Russians.
                1. -1
                  28 May 2021 11: 31
                  freelancers earn 1000 euros mainly in large cities.
                  very few people can get such fat orders on the periphery. There are hundreds of such people, not even thousands. And so freelancers live everywhere - they even like the favelas in Brazil.
                  For me personally, between Georgia and Turkey, the choice is unambiguous in the direction of Turkey.
                  There is the least of this superfluous ...
                  1. 0
                    28 May 2021 12: 05
                    Quote: yehat2
                    freelancers earn 1000 euros mainly in large cities.
                    very few people can get such fat orders on the periphery.

                    Remotely, no matter where to work and where to live, if only there was Internet.
                    Quote: yehat2
                    There are hundreds of such people, not even thousands.

                    There are not hundreds for a long time, there is no work in the country, now more and more people will master the Internet, in order to earn money.
                    Quote: yehat2
                    For me personally, between Georgia and Turkey, the choice is unambiguous in the direction of Turkey.
                    There is the least of this superfluous ...

                    Guana is enough everywhere.)))
        3. 0
          29 May 2021 07: 16
          Quote: professor
          VO does not publish positive news from the following countries:
          -Ukraine,
          -Bulgaria
          -George
          -Czech Republic
          and further down the list.

          You yourself are George.
          Change the auto-translator.
      2. -3
        27 May 2021 15: 38
        I wonder if there is at least some positive news from Bulgaria so that we would be at least a little pleasant?

        There are many positive news, but for some reason they are not published in rus-media ... Kolleg Sokolov, right. Yes
        1. +2
          27 May 2021 15: 48
          There is a lot of positive news,


          Like this - "The master appointed me his beloved wife !!!" ?
          You are now NATO members, a potential adversary, threat and target. And from the Russians you continue to demand love for one's neighbor and internationalism. They themselves have chosen this attitude towards you.
          1. +1
            28 May 2021 10: 14
            Quote: dauria
            They themselves have chosen this attitude towards you.

            And we ourselves have chosen this attitude towards our country, through the elections and the approval of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin. Is this what you wanted to say? Or is it different?
            1. -1
              28 May 2021 10: 21
              And we ourselves have chosen such an attitude towards our country,

              I don't care how the Bulgarians relate to our country. Russia is dear to me regardless of the Putin and Gorbachevs, Potanins and Vekselbergs. We'll figure it out ourselves. And to make a "smile" to the Germans or Italians just to please them? Please dismiss. He wanted to know my opinion about Bulgaria - please. I am not interested in his opinion about Russia.
              1. +1
                28 May 2021 10: 34
                Quote: dauria
                And to make a "smile" to the Germans or Italians just to please them?

                Totally agree with you! The most important thing is that we ourselves would like to live in our country. But with this, just bigger and bigger problems. You see, I generally think it is fundamentally wrong to transfer some kind of misunderstanding between the two corporations to the relationship between the Russian and Bulgarian people. And even more so on personal relationships between members of the forum, even if from different countries. Moreover, none of the foreign members of the forum never insulted the Russian people.
              2. -1
                28 May 2021 12: 27
                I don’t care how the Bulgarians relate to our country.

                In the sense of "I'm not interested," why don't you give a damn?
                Like this - "The master appointed me his beloved wife !!!" ?


                And from the Russians you continue to demand love for one's neighbor and internationalism.

                Who requires ???? belay
        2. +1
          27 May 2021 22: 13
          I read several Bulgarian publics, the positive news is always the same in a circle. Just like in / on 404. Peremoga-zrada-peremoga again. Of the really positive things over the past 10 years, the Sofia-Burgas road was built. I don’t remember anything really good anymore. The power is the same, the problems are the same, there are fewer tourists, the prices are still higher.
          1. +1
            28 May 2021 09: 54
            Of the really positive things over the past 10 years, the Sofia-Burgas road was built. I can't remember anything else really good.

            Constructed / under construction highways with a length of 7-8 times longer than it was before. This is very important for a country located at a traffic crossroads. Tens of thousands of infrastructure facilities have been built.
            All of us are gasified. localities with a population of over 10 thousand. They are home to 90% of the country's population. Until 1995, there was not a single gasified city in BG.
            GDP has doubled over the past 10 years, in 2019 it reached a historical record of 63 billion rubles. Doll.
            Having gone bankrupt in the 90s, external debts exceeded GDP, and now Bulgaria is in second place in the EU with VN making up only 30% of GDP.
            In the 90s, the gold absolute reserve was only $ 300 million. Now they are approx. USD 23-25 ​​billion
            The financial system is stable, for 20 years now the exchange rate of the Bulgarian currency has not changed in relation to the euro. Inflation in the 90s exceeded 300%, now it is minimal. Unemployment has decreased 5 times. Hundreds of new businesses began operations. Income outstrips inflation by 2,5 times.
            And this is a country that does not possess some serious natural resources!
            I write from memory, here you can find out in more detail. True, the corona crisis had a negative effect, but even taking it into account, Bulgaria is doing better than many other countries:
            https://topwar.ru/140445-buduschee-ekonomiki-bolgarii-vyglyadit-optimistichno.html
            Predictions for the post-epidemic period are very optimistic.

            The power is the same, the problems are the same, there are fewer tourists, the prices are still higher.

            There is a problem, and who does not? Tourism has sat down due to the pandemic in all countries. As for the government, there is a democratic system in Bulgaria and we can change the government if we think that it does not work as it should. The spirit of criticality reigns in the Bulgarian media space, there is freedom of opinion, people go to protests and no one will forbid them! The opposition is strong, the president, for example, is from it. In the elections a month ago, not a single party was able to get a majority. Appointed new elections for June. We do not have irreplaceable leaders and mega-pseudo-parties!
            1. +1
              28 May 2021 12: 48
              Oh, as accurately noted, Boyko Borisov has changed 10 times in 5 years. Strictly democratic way :)))
              1. 0
                28 May 2021 16: 02
                Oh, as accurately noted, Boyko Borisov has changed 10 times in 5 years. Strictly democratic way :)))

                You could at least read the wiki, it's elementary! laughing 3 times I won the elections, 2 times I went to retirement before the appointed time. Because of the protests, we have no problems with it. The second time because of the promise made, about the loss of his party in the presidential elections. He does not participate in these elections and has already announced that he will no longer be nominated for the post of prime minister. We also have presidential terms limited to 2 terms. Really Democracy! Yes
                1. 0
                  29 May 2021 07: 24
                  pytar (Boyan Ivanov)
                  If Euroreich does not come to us again, God forbid we will not meet. Live, prosper.
                  1. 0
                    29 May 2021 11: 53
                    If Euroreich does not come to us again, God forbid we will not meet.

                    The European Union will not climb. Democracies do not fence off you, they fence off you! Reich changed his seats ... laughing
                    Live, prosper.

                    Thank you! And I wish you that! hi
  2. +10
    27 May 2021 14: 16
    If specialists are not allowed to visit, let them bring them themselves for maintenance / repair, what is the question then ???
    1. -2
      27 May 2021 15: 54
      If specialists are not allowed to visit, let them bring them themselves for maintenance / repair, what is the question then ???

      It is not clear from the text who is not letting in Bulgaria, the Bulgarian authorities or the Russian ones? Let me remind you that at this time a large number of Russian specialists working on the Balkan Stream route came and went without any problems, subject to the established quarantine order.
      "We are talking about serious delays due to the coronavirus, as well as the inability to send Russian specialists to the Graf Ignatievo airbase due to measures against the epidemic."

      The fact is that the delay in fulfilling the contract was outlined even before the beginning of the epidemic. The reason is that the DGC revealed that they do not have some of the elements / are not already produced, not in the warehouses /, which are provided according to the specifications. RSK offered to replace them with newer models, but at a significantly higher price. The customer objected that he agreed, but without exceeding the contract price. After all, he does not have to pay for problems in the logistics of the RCS MiG! Official correspondence lasted for several months!

      In another post, for comparison, I will give an example with Belarus, with which Bulgaria signed an agreement for the repair of the Su-25. hi
  3. +7
    27 May 2021 14: 21
    I don't see any problem or accusations against Russia.
    ..
    Yes, force majeure and conditions have not been met and all the papers have been signed. The author is not an accusation, it is a standard statement of facts on paper and the transfer of deadlines to law. Transfer by mutual consent.
    1. +1
      27 May 2021 14: 54
      Belarus repaired the MiG-29 for Bangladesh on time, and repair and modernization for Serbia.
      Maybe "" Not everything is so smooth ... in the UAC "?
      1. +2
        27 May 2021 15: 03
        For a very long time Belarus has argued that the corona is no more dangerous than the flu and has not taken any quarantine measures.
      2. -1
        27 May 2021 16: 27
        Belarus repaired the MiG-29 for Bangladesh on time, and repair and modernization for Serbia.

        Dear Nicholas hi just at that time the Belarusian JSC “558 Aviation Repair Plant” was repairing the Bulgarian Su-25! There were problems, but ultimately Belarusian coped with 5 ++++!
        The Bulgarian side, the pilots, the technical staff were so pleased that the Minister of Defense of Bulgaria Krasimir Karakachanov awarded the representatives of the Belarusian plant that repaired the Bulgarian Su-25 aircraft, as well as the employees of the Ministry of Defense for their professionalism in cooperation with the Belarusian plant! For his part, the director of JSC "558 Aviation Repair Plant" Pavel Ivanovich Pinigin thanked Krasimir Karakachanov for cooperation. He presented him with a book-album “The Heritage of Belarus”, wishing him: “Let the book remind you of our common implemented project, for which I am personally grateful to you”.


        Another post on the topic on VO:
        "The deal with the Belarusian company was concluded by the Minister of War of Bulgaria Krasimir Karakachanov. Before its implementation, she had to go through many obstacles. In the end, with some delay due to the coronavirus pandemic, the work on the contract is nearing completion, in contrast to a similar agreement with a Russian contractor. . "
        https://topwar.ru/178773-v-bolgarii-hotjat-prodlit-zhizn-sovetskim-voennym-samoletam.html

        Maybe "" Not everything is so smooth ... in the UAC "?

        A similar contract, the result is visible ... as they say "no comment" ... hi
    2. -5
      27 May 2021 15: 57
      I don't see any problem or accusations against Russia.

      Indeed, there are no charges against Russia, the transfer was agreed upon by mutual agreement, and the penalties were paid under one of the contracts / there are 5 of them /. More precisely, we are talking about 1 framework dispute, containing 5 separate contracts. hi
  4. +3
    27 May 2021 14: 27
    They started messing with this repair from the very beginning, starting from the fact that they did not pay for the work, etc. All these transfers are precisely their fault. I would even send them to ...........
  5. 0
    27 May 2021 14: 32
    Quote: credo
    Quote: Victor_B
    Hello! Garage!
    What about South Stream and other Russian dirty tricks?
    Doesn't it press anywhere?

    I wonder if there is at least some positive news from Bulgaria so that we would be at least a little pleasant?

    any of what the brothers have nothing to do with. sea ​​for example warm
  6. +10
    27 May 2021 14: 35
    But Serbia received a squadron of modernized MiG-29s just in time and free of charge ... lol
  7. -2
    27 May 2021 14: 39
    Now the Russian manufacturer is given additional time (17 months) "to fulfill their obligations." The statement is strange

    That is, it was necessary not to give extra time ??
    This is not a strange statement, but its submission here ...
  8. -1
    27 May 2021 14: 42
    Do Bulgarians say something about fulfilling obligations? Do they understand something in this or someone suggested?
    1. +1
      27 May 2021 14: 55
      Yes, they understand .. Yes, they say ..
      What confuses you ??
  9. 0
    27 May 2021 14: 57
    If in this way the Russian Federation undermines the air force of a NATO country, then the delay is understandable. And if the company "MIG" is not even able to repair its planes, then it is a PROBLEM!
    1. -3
      27 May 2021 18: 18
      If in this way the Russian Federation undermines the air force of a NATO country, then the delay is understandable. And if the company "MIG" is not even able to repair its planes, then it is a PROBLEM!

      The presence or absence of these somewhat old 40-year-old MiGs does not affect the NATO Air Force in any way. So trouble, trouble ... Nikolai ...
  10. +1
    27 May 2021 14: 59
    First, do not let our specialists in, and then blame them for the delay in repairs, they are completely inadequate in their ceevropes, maybe they were bitten by their non-growers? In principle, this is a rhetorical question
  11. +1
    27 May 2021 15: 05
    In total, it is planned to use five vehicles of this type, while the F-2024 will take over on combat duty in 16.

    when repairing fighters in Poland or Ukraine "our country runs the risk of getting bogged down in legal disputes"

    What are the disputes when, in three years, you are going to send Russia away and forever? Yes, do at least in Zimbabwe.
  12. +1
    27 May 2021 15: 21
    They tell the "brothers" .. As they say, with whom you lead, you will become like that .. and contacted Matrastan.
  13. 0
    27 May 2021 15: 25
    And why Russia, and not a specific office? You can also blame it on vodka, balalaika or bear.
  14. -3
    27 May 2021 15: 36
    The topic was discussed here:
    https://topwar.ru/176188-obojdemsja-bez-mig-29-v-bolgarii-o-sorvannom-rossiej-remonte-istrebitelej.html
    In my comments under the article there are detailed explanations on the case about the real reasons for not fulfilling the contract / this is 1 framework and 5 separate / from the side of JSC "RSK MiG".

    “The Ministry of Defense has demanded a penalty in the amount of 924 euros from JSC RSK MiG, of which to date it has received 686.76 euros. The rest of the amount has not yet been paid, as a problem analysis is underwayarising from the implementation of contracts by JSC "RSK MiG", as and there is a search for the possibility of solving them", said the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria.

    As a reminder, Bulgaria signed an agreement with a Russian company in 2018 for 41.565 million euros and a deadline of 48 months. The agreement includes delivery, repair of equipment and 4 RD-33 engines, control and restoration work of 3 MiG-29UB training and combat fighters, etc.

    The fact that RSK MiG has already paid 185 thousand. euro NEUSTOYEK indicates the recognition of the fact of non-compliance with the contract with her side. Further in the text, it is said about the search for possible solutions, which indicates the willingness of both parties to extend the contract. In case of failure to reach an agreement, the rest of the penalties will be paid. Obviously, we agreed, since the corona virus provides a legal basis for using the "force majeure" clause. It is not clear what the anonymous author of the article saw strange. request
  15. +1
    27 May 2021 21: 05
    Bulgarian aircraft not repaired by Russia will not be able to take part in the war against Russia. This, of course, is not order!
    1. -1
      27 May 2021 21: 41
      Bulgarian aircraft not repaired by Russia will not be able to take part in the war against Russia. This, of course, is not order!

      Refurbished too. Their range does not reach the territory of the Russian Federation. bully So DO NOT repair it, it is NOT an order. Yes
  16. +1
    28 May 2021 09: 49
    Quote: isv000
    But Serbia received a squadron of modernized MiG-29s just in time and free of charge ... lol

    6 aircraft are not squadrons and are not free. Serbs pay around 185 million euros for repairs, upgrades and spare parts. That is, almost 30 million per plane.
    1. 0
      28 May 2021 13: 01
      isv000 But Serbia received a squadron of modernized MiG-29s just in time and free of charge ...

      stoqn477 6 aircraft are not squadrons and are not free. Serbs pay around 185 million euros for repairs, upgrades and spare parts. That is, almost 30 million per plane.

      I remember a similar incident happened with my colleagues! A couple comes with some small commodity:
      - Good afternoon! You're lucky! We have an exclusive offer! Since you are very nice to us, we will give it for free, this, this, this ... take everything as a gift!
      The colleague takes it, but what is he worried about:
      - Completely, well, absolutely free?
      - Yeah ...- the couple answers in chorus, and then a little quieter:
      -You are intelligent people, of course you understand, you have to pay transportation costs, consumables, VAT, etc.
      - How much is it?
      - So much so ... - they call an amount that is 2 times higher than the real cost of goods!
      -Ahhh, no! I don’t want your "free"! Take your "gifts" and go / the direction is indicated unambiguously /.
  17. 0
    28 May 2021 12: 14
    After EVERYTHING that happened between us, we also repair something for them ?!
    It is clear that the business and for the loot. But......
    1. 0
      28 May 2021 12: 49
      After EVERYTHING that happened between us, we also repair something for them ?!

      You have a lot of things that happened almost from everyone, but you do business with them, right?
      It is clear that the business and for the loot. But......

      If the criterion for doing business was some real or imagined grievances that passed in time, you could not do business with anyone.
  18. 0
    28 May 2021 12: 59
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    There are not hundreds for a long time, there is no work in the country, now more and more people will master the Internet, in order to earn money.

    there are a lot of people, but it is much more difficult to master the really demanded level on the periphery - there is less exchange of experience, fewer first customers, less supportive environment.
    You shouldn't think that everything is so simple.
    but if you want to earn 500-700 dollars, then at this level weak skills will already skip and there are a lot of such freelancers.
  19. 0
    28 May 2021 14: 23
    Belene NPP, designed in 1981! Since then, the price has risen by 9 times in comparison with the original cost! Has turned into a bottomless pit!

    Over the past time, Belene has not risen in price by 9 times in parity prices, considering the depreciation of money for 40 years. Do I need to remind you that the price of electricity has grown more than 9 times in 40 years.
    A bottomless pit in the energy sector in Bulgaria is an American coal-fired thermal power plant, photovoltaic, CHEZ, EVN and the like.
    In 2013, a referendum was held in Bulgaria (it was called "nuclear") on the continuation of construction! The adherents did not collect the majority and the project was frozen.

    Despite the unprecedented propaganda against Belene by the government and practically all media, the majority (60%) of the project had a majority in the referendum. At the same time, it took place legally, since more than 20% of those eligible to vote took part.
    So don't be fooling around and misleading.
    1. 0
      28 May 2021 16: 23
      Over the past time, Belene has not risen in price by 9 times in parity prices, considering the depreciation of money for 40 years. Do I need to remind you that the price of electricity has grown more than 9 times in 40 years.
      A bottomless pit in the energy sector in Bulgaria is an American coal-fired thermal power plant, photovoltaic, CHEZ, EVN and the like.

      Kostadinov, on these issues in Bulgaria we argue and we will argue. But this is our inner theme! I don't accept, accusations like "credo: .... that ... and Bulgaria refused to build Russian nuclear power plant projects on its territory? " Whether it builds or not, and what kind, my state has the right to decide! For that, a referendum was held!
      ... in the referendum, the project had a majority (60%). At the same time, it took place legally, since more than 20% of those eligible to vote took part.

      Although voters by a majority of votes (60,6%) supported the construction of the nuclear power plant, due to the extremely low turnout (20,2%), which was less than the required 60%, the results of the referendum are considered legally invalid. The decision of the nuclear power plant issue was transferred to the People's Assembly of Bulgaria, as provided by law. I personally voted with YES, but I respect the law for the difference from you! If 20% voted with YES, and the rest with NO or did not vote, then the project does not have proper support from the population!
  20. 0
    28 May 2021 14: 46
    Quote: pytar
    So much so much ... - they call an amount 2 times higher than the real cost of goods!
    -Ahhh, no! I don’t want your "free"! Take your "gifts" and go / the direction is indicated unambiguously /.

    I always thought that I should beat some kind of steed in people.
    We paid either 2 or 3 billion for eight aircraft, which is like aerodynamics 50 years ago and which, at best, will arrive in 2024. And this is just the beginning of payments. Then there will be simulators, repair and support, training, equipment of aerodromes.
    And a comparison with the Serbian MiG-29s that are already flying, all Serbia's expenses will be, in the worst case, 20 times less and there is no need to change and buy anything else.
    1. 0
      28 May 2021 16: 42
      I always thought that I should beat some kind of steed in people.

      And I think so, and I also think that a person should at least take an interest, look for info before starting to comment!
      We paid either 2 or 3 billion for eight aircraft, which is like aerodynamics 50 years ago and which, at best, will arrive in 2024. And this is just the beginning of payments. Then there will be simulators, repair and support, training, equipment of aerodromes.

      The total price is $ 1,256 billion. It includes 3D simulators, training, diagnostic stands, documentation and licenses, a set of weapons for aircraft, full warranty support for 3-5 years / I don’t remember exactly /. A decision of the US Congress is also expected, to reduce the cost from $ 60 million. 6 aircraft will be received in 2023, 2 in 2024, and 2 more used aircraft. as a gift, for additional training of personnel and pilots. A second order for 8 more will likely be awarded in the next 2 years. The F-16 bl .70 will be the most technically advanced aircraft in the Balkans. Serbian used The MiG-29 awaits the fate of the Bulgarian. Their resource is also not so good, but to maintain the old-fashioned way, not a cheap enterprise. Look at the repairs what problems arise!
  21. 0
    28 May 2021 17: 42
    Kostadinov, on these issues in Bulgaria we argue and we will argue. But this is our inner theme!

    And where did I say something else. This is our insides and we argue.
    the results of the referendum are considered legally invalid

    The result of the referendum is unambiguous and legally valid. Read legislation on referendums. Not only the duty of parliament will fulfill it, but that is another matter. The law is made so that no referendum has yet resulted in such an obligation.
    If 20% voted with YES, and the rest with NO or did not vote, then the project does not have proper support from the population!

    Not voting does not mean NOT, but just do not have an opinion on the topic of the referendum and give others the right to decide. Therefore, 20% of the participants, according to the law, means that the referendum took place. Quite another matter is the duty of the parliament to fulfill the will of the people expressed in the referendum.
    Parliament today unanimously decides in 2-3 years something else, and there decisions are made by representatives for whom no more than 20% of all voters voted.
    The total price is $ 1,256 billion. It includes 3D simulators, training, diagnostic stands, documentation and licenses, a set of weapons for aircraft, full warranty support for 3-5 years / I don’t remember exactly /.

    We will know what the real price will be no earlier than 2024. But even so it is clear that it does not include changes to the aerodrum and their equipment for the F-16, but this is a lot of money. What does "warranty support" mean? What is included in this term? And the set of weapons is the most scanty that you can think of.
    The F-16 bl .70 will be the most technically advanced aircraft in the Balkans.

    How this platform, with its 50-year-old aerodynamics, can be technically advanced so only you know. I will not comment on Greece, which already in this year Rafal is starting to enter and 84 F-16s are already being upgraded to the standard block 72. Do not bother commenting on the Turkish Air Force and what they will be in 2024. There are very big doubts that these are our "advancement" F-16 will be better and the Serbian MiG-29. By 2025, everything will be clear.
  22. 0
    29 May 2021 08: 42
    It's like a service station. Yes there is only to replace the oil seals, and you will climb ...