Russian anti-aircraft gunners are waiting for the newest Izhevsk Typhoon - specially for air defense

One of the most interesting novelties of military equipment, presented in the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2021, was the combat vehicles of the anti-aircraft gunner squad of Typhoon-Air Defense systems.

Four combat vehicles of this promising air defense system marched in parade formation. Of course, participation in the Victory Parade testifies to the high appraisal of the new combat vehicle.

Combat vehicles "Typhoon-Air Defense" are the development of the Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant "Kupol" at the expense of its own resources, with the support of the Concern East Kazakhstan "Almaz-Antey" and the leadership of the Air Defense Forces of the Land Forces of the Ministry of Defense. Earlier, prototypes of Typhoon-Air Defense took part in the International Army Games-2019 and in the dynamic demonstrations of the Army-2020 forum, and even then attracted the attention of specialists and amateurs of military equipment.

The new combat vehicle is made for the mobility and protection of anti-aircraft gunners MANPADS on the battlefield. The latest automation and interface tools provide additional opportunities for air defense units. The Typhoon-Air Defense vehicle itself is designed for five people: a commander, a driver-mechanic, a machine gunner and two anti-aircraft gunners. On the roof of the combat vehicle there is a turret with a large-caliber machine gun and two hatches: for a machine gunner and an anti-aircraft gunner.

The vehicle's armament includes 9 MANPADS anti-aircraft guided missiles, and complexes of various types are used.

For example, in the version of equipping the vehicle with the "Verba" MANPADS, it is possible to intercept air attack weapons flying at a speed of up to 420 m / s, at a distance of 0,5 to 6 km and at an altitude of up to and more than 3 km. In addition, a detachment of anti-aircraft gunners MANPADS can receive target designation from a higher combat command post, being right in the car, and simultaneously fire from a machine gun and MANPADS at speeds up to 20 km / h.

If necessary, the Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile systems, which are also produced at the Kupol defense plant in Izhevsk, can be used as a command vehicle for the Typhoon-PVO BM. Acting in conjunction with short-range air defense systems, in the "mixed link" mode, anti-aircraft gunners can use powerful radars of the "Tor-M2" complexes for reconnaissance of the air situation and target designation.

Considering the growth in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles in modern theaters of military operations, which, despite their inexpensive cost, can cause serious damage to the enemy, this practice allows you to save anti-aircraft guided missiles, the cost of which is sometimes tens of times higher than the cost of enemy UAVs.

By “transferring” smaller and faster targets to Typhoon-Air Defense vehicles, anti-aircraft gunners successfully hit UAVs with inexpensive MANPADS firepower.

In addition, using a large-caliber machine gun and anti-aircraft missiles against lightly armored and unarmored vehicles, the Typhoon-Air Defense vehicles, which are super mobile compared to other anti-aircraft weapons, being in the combat formations of troops, can also be used to solve various fire support tasks.

The adoption of the Typhoon-Air Defense combat vehicles for service and the further deployment of their mass production is expected in 2021.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Is it impossible to mount a launcher with the same "Verb" on the roof at once? It is necessary that a fighter with a MANPADS get out of the hatch, take aim, and during this time the target will leave the affected area. We like to complicate everything, and by the way, this is the so-called short-range air defense, from which the complex air defense-missile defense begins, its first and main element is a soldier with a man-portable air defense system.

[mark1]

Quote: Thrifty

its first and main element is a fighter with a MANPADS.

Yes - it turns out that the first and main element is the one who first got into the crew - even a flamethrower, even a grenade launcher, even a flag flapper.

[Thrifty]

Mark1 - and what relation do the specialists you listed have to air defense? In air defense, people are the basis, short-range air defense is not only Tora, Buki, Tunguska, it is, first of all, an ordinary gunner from an anti-aircraft missile system, the one who eliminates the dead zone of air defense systems!

[mark1]

There is no air defense (well, in extreme cases, small), but for that they easily fit into the volumes and functionality of the Typhoon Air Defense. I mean, "Typhoon" in its current form is the same air defense as a PTO or RCS or a self-propelled flagpole.

[Thrifty]

Mark1 - in fact, here we are discussing air defense, and the Typhoon in this configuration is just an additive that should make it easier for the MANPADS to perform combat work!

[mark1]

Thrifty - if we were discussing air defense here, then we would discuss the features of MANPADS, and since we are discussing the "addition", I just pointed out its multifunctionality "in this configuration"

[loki565]

Is it impossible to mount a launcher with the same "Verb" on the roof at once? It is necessary that a fighter with a MANPADS get out of the hatch, take aim, and during this time the target will leave the affected area. We like to complicate everything, and by the way, this is the so-called short-range air defense, from which the complex air defense-missile defense begins, its first and main element is a soldier with a man-portable air defense system.

It is possible, but this is a completely different machine, but an air defense typhoon for transporting a MANPADS calculation. A car is always easier to spot and destroy than a fighter with MANPADS in a forest belt or in urban areas

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Thrifty

Is it impossible to mount a launcher on the roof with the same "Verbs" at once?

Can. But this turns the car into a self-propelled target.
For the main advantages of MANPADS are stealth and maneuverability - a pedestrian crew can be anywhere, and the launcher will be detected only after launch. These advantages make it possible to put up with the short range of the SAM and the low power of the warhead, which were sacrificed for the sake of carrying the air defense system.
If we firmly attach MANPADS to the chassis, then all the advantages are immediately lost. But the disadvantages remain. And it turns out a self-propelled target: expensive and noticeable enough to spend an ATGM from a helicopter or UAV on it, but unable to hit the carriers of these ATGMs due to the short range and power of the SAM.
So the ability of MANPADS to scatter from the carrier vehicle greatly increases their survivability.

[garri-lin]

You are not entirely correct. A primitive swivel bracket on the roof for 2 tubes will keep you from sticking out. Reduces the effect of weather on the arrow. Ideally, I see such a car in this form: a transparent dome for observation and 2 missiles on the car. Kind of like a Dzhigit with a transparent roof. And a dismounted shooter with a rocket and a tablet at a distance of a couple of hundred meters from the car. From the turret, you can shoot on the move without sticking out from under the armor. Or from an ambush a pair launch from two spaced-apart points.

[Barberry25]

the whole problem is that all the equipment for MANPADS can be screwed onto a bicycle ... even more so that there is a Tiger-Flexible ... but someone in the army decided to chase a medal and created a useless wunderwaffe ... in fact, it is necessary to conduct proceedings for this and remove shoulder straps ..

[PetrovMisha2060]

Possible and necessary.

In Poland, there are 80 trains of this kind x4 missiles plus another salvo in ammunition.

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[yfast]

How to shoot back is clear, but how to notice? Development "at your own expense". Everyone is trying to reduce losses and the human factor when shooting, but here grow eight eyes around the perimeter. And it will have no analogues in the world.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: yfast

How to shoot back is clear, but how to notice?

If necessary, the Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile systems, which are also produced at the Kupol defense plant in Izhevsk, can be used as a command vehicle for the Typhoon-PVO BM. Acting in conjunction with short-range air defense systems, in the "mixed link" mode, anti-aircraft gunners can use powerful radars of the "Tor-M2" complexes for reconnaissance of the air situation and target designation.

EMNIP, a portable electronic tablet for CU calculations, was developed for "Needle".

[And Us Rat]

I honestly do not understand the meaning of this on the modern battlefield.

[mark1]

Quote: And Us Rat

In my opinion, this is an anachronism from the 80s of the last century.

In the 80s, this would not have passed ("Strela-2") - this is the last refinement of military thought.

[Vadim237]

MANPADS calculations will be given their own car - what's wrong with that?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Vadim237

MANPADS calculations will be given their own car - what's wrong with that?

In the very concept - "calculation of MANPADS".
MANPADS are already ineffective against a modern enemy, since they are limited in use by human senses and reactions, as well as in connection with the massive equipping of modern air technology with laser suppression systems for IR seeker (type L-370 "Vitebsk"). MANPADS are just a target for the modern Air Force.
The calculation of MANPADS is good in the ranks of backward countries, against the same backward enemy. This was clearly proved by the battles in Syria, all the victories of MANPADS are when the Barmaley shot down the antediluvian aircraft of Assad. And against the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation they turned out to be absolutely useless.
In most modern armies, MANPADS remained only with the MTR, for suicidal sabotage behind enemy lines, in conditions of total war.

[Barberry25]

but the fact that they already have a car according to the state ... and here ... a car with a beautiful name, but absolutely no functionality ... The car is expensive, but useless .. a banal BRDM-2 Snipe would be more useful at a lower cost

[Olddetractor]

The calculation of MANPADS will live in this field taxi

[Kaw]

Considering the growth in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles in modern theaters of military operations, which, despite their inexpensive cost, can cause serious damage to the enemy, this practice allows you to save anti-aircraft guided missiles, the cost of which is sometimes tens of times higher than the cost of enemy UAVs.

UAVs, as a rule, run on piston engines with very low heat emission, or even on electric ones. Vryatli missiles with thermal warheads will be effective against them. IMHO

[Kaw]

For modern military air defense, you need something completely different, you need a sensitive radar capable of detecting targets with very low ESR (like a counter-battery radar) and weapons that can destroy many small targets. I think that a rapid-firing small-caliber cannon or miniature missiles installed in a large number on a launcher would be most optimal for this. IMHO

[yfast]

Quote: Alexey RA

EMNIP, a portable electronic tablet for CU calculations, was developed for "Needle".

There are only a few seconds of time, and not play Tetris.

[garri-lin]

There, in real time, there is a notification about the situation. And the calculation thanks to such a tablet will know the direction of the target's approach and the time of flight. Plus or minus a couple of seconds. And on the basis of this data, he will be able to prepare for the shooting ahead of time.

[Barberry25]

Tiger-bending .. 5 machines, 4 with Bending modules and 1 with radar .. quietly closing the area

[Guru]

One of the most interesting novelties of military equipment, presented in the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2021, was the combat vehicles of the anti-aircraft gunner squad of Typhoon-Air Defense systems.

And what's so interesting With the same success, you can place a fighter with an arrow in the body of a dump truck and call it "Dump truck -PVO"

The new combat vehicle is made for the mobility and protection of anti-aircraft gunners MANPADS on the battlefield

Just Tin-on the battlefield with "Arrow" to run, Well, the author laughs.

[Petro_tut]

and simultaneously fire from a machine gun and MANPADS at speeds up to 20 km / h.

have you made a stabilizer and a ballistic computer to the machine gun?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Petro_tut

have you made a stabilizer and a ballistic computer to the machine gun?

And no one talked about "hitting" - only about "firing."

[RUSLAN]

Well, what about this Typhoon from the air defense? The ability to carry MANPADS in the cabin and a hatch for its use? That is how almost every vehicle with a hatch can do it!

[cat Rusich]

Quote: RUSLAN

That way, almost every car with a hatch can do it!

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

This is some ... shame !!!

[infantryman2020]

Equipping air defense units with this tool (average MRAP) in units equipped with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers is a crime from the point of view of unification.
First, unification in terms of mobility (cross-country ability, water-handling capacity). Secondly, unification by samples (different sizes).
An example where lobbying outweighs common sense ...

[syndicalist]

... at a distance from 0,5 to 6 km and at an altitude of up to and more than 3 km

With the range is clear, but, here, with the height ...? "Before and more" - how much more? 20 km? 100? or to the constellation Aquarius?

[storm]

Everything you need for an air defense vehicle:
1.Own optoelectronic station (OLS) for passive target detection,
2. Launcher for 2 air defense systems Verba,
3. Means for countering UAVs such as REX-1, REX-2 for electronic warfare against UAVs within a radius of 2 km.
4. machine gun mount "Kord" 12,7

[keleg]

There is an OLS and a launcher at Gibka-S. But there is also a detection radar.

[DMi]

The most delusional "novelty". In general, it looks like a cynical mockery. The impudence of those wishing to cling to the budget is of course prohibitive. But the most interesting question is who in the army gives the go-ahead for the purchase of such "novelties".