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The network discusses the initiative of the Turkish authorities on the need for "physical protection of the people of Palestine"

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Turkish Defense Minister and military personnel



The Turkish President has once again harshly criticized the government and the military command of Israel. According to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Israel is striking not only the Palestinians, but the entire Muslim world. The Turkish president noted that there would be no escalation and numerous casualties if the Israeli security forces acted less aggressively towards the Arab population on the Temple Mount, and the authorities refused to evict Arab families from one of the Jerusalem areas.

The German media, meanwhile, write that "unlike many other leaders who call on both sides to de-escalate, the Turkish president took the position of one of the parties to the conflict." Observers Daniel Bellut and Hilal Köylu of DW write that in this way Recep Erdogan is using the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for his own purposes - "trying to proclaim himself the leader of the entire Muslim world and the defender of all people of the Islamic faith."

It should be noted that Erdogan recently announced a "curse" against Austria in connection with the fact that official Vienna decided to express solidarity with Israel. Israeli flags were flown in the Austrian capital.

Meanwhile, an article by Yunis Dar appeared in the EurAsian Times, where he points to the possible appearance of the Turkish military in the Gaza Strip. At the same time, the statement of the head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry Mevlut Cavusoglu is cited. According to the Turkish official, "it is not enough to express support for the people of Palestine in words, efforts are needed, including for physical protection."

Cavusoglu:

Such protection can be realized through the formation of an international security force with the military and financial participation of all comers.

These statements are actively discussed on the network, and a hypothesis has been put forward that Turkey could send its military to Gaza.

At the same time, in Turkey itself, those materials in the media, which indicated that Ankara had allegedly already sent its military to Palestine, were called untrue.

It should be added that Ankara's proposal to "protect the Palestinian people" was supported in Pakistan as well. Other countries of the Muslim world (their leaders) are so far more restrained.
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 May 2021 12: 36
    +13
    Turkey will not pull ...
    1. Politically, the US covers Israel's actions
    2. Leading Arab countries will not support.
    3. Israel has all the forces and means to resist.


    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 20 May 2021 12: 43
      +15
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Turkey will not pull ...

      Sure. But the words are spoken and they are very weighty, even if everyone understands that they are words. Vaughn, Pakistan also supported. yes
      1. credo
        credo 20 May 2021 13: 03
        -6
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Turkey will not pull ...

        Sure. But the words are spoken and they are very weighty, even if everyone understands that they are words. Vaughn, Pakistan also supported. yes

        And what is significant here, besides verbal threats. I remember when a Turkish ship went to the aid of the Palestinians, the Jews quickly neutralized it, and that was the end of all the threats to Turkey.

        It should not be forgotten that the Jews can, in revenge, begin to provide assistance to the Kurds, including on the territory of Turkey itself. It looks like Turkey takes this into account and limits itself only to what has been said.
        1. Anar
          Anar 21 May 2021 09: 57
          -1
          The Kurds of Turkey frightened first the USSR and then America. The Israeli threat to the Kurds will not reach the Soviet one, not the American one.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 14: 52
        -3
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Turkey will not pull ...

        Sure. But the words are spoken and they are very weighty, even if everyone understands that they are words. Vaughn, Pakistan also supported. yes

        Pakistanis were already there in the 70s. According to the Israelis, they are excellent pilots))
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      4. Anar
        Anar 21 May 2021 10: 11
        -1
        Iran is still silent ... But most likely everyone is restrained for fear of starting a third world war. If Turkey goes to forgive Israel, Pakistan and Indonesia will instantly connect. Iran and China will immediately intercede for Pakistan (both of them will not give offense to Pakistan, as well as both against Israel's policy towards the Palestinians).
        On the other hand, America will start helping Israel. America's tobacco in the form of France, Belgium and Austria will also be drawn in, but will act more restrained and out of tishka.
        What India will do is a big question. On the one hand, it can help Israel, but on the other hand, in this case, China can openly attack India.
        Arabs will accept neutrality despite the fact that the Palestinians are Arabs.
        Russia will not get involved on any side, although it will be incited by both the first and the second side.
    2. Shurik70
      Shurik70 20 May 2021 12: 50
      +7
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Politically, the US covers up Israel's actions

      No one can predict which cockroaches in the head of the US leadership (and I'm not talking about presidents, but about real leaders - the clans of oligarchs) will be more important. They have a redistribution of power there now, there are those who are against the dominance of the Semites, limiting their power.
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Leading Arab countries will not support.

      So there are several "leading Arab countries". There are those who do not mind crushing Israel. The same Egypt, though at peace with Israel, will not refuse to do nasty things to him. And Turkey itself, although not Arab, is one of the leaders of the Muslim world.
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Israel has all the forces and means to resist

      So Turkey will not fight itself, it will leave it to others.
      There will be supplies of medicines, food, sending media agents to cover the "bombing of civilians", and assistance to volunteers and mercenaries who wish to personally participate. And even the supply of weapons (this is most likely secret, but they will try to do everything for the possibility of open interference, although this is unlikely to be able to)
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 May 2021 13: 30
        +9
        Quote: Shurik70
        So Turkey will not fight itself, it will leave it to others.
        There will be supplies of medicines, food, sending media agents to cover the "bombing of civilians", and assistance to volunteers and mercenaries who wish to personally participate.

        Most likely it will. Plus, in all media, Erdogan's words are positively perceived by the entire Muslim world, at least someone supports them.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 21 May 2021 15: 08
        0
        Quote: Shurik70
        No one can predict which cockroaches in the head of the US leadership (and I'm not talking about presidents, but about real leaders - the clans of oligarchs) will be more important. They have a redistribution of power there now, there are those who are against the dominance of the Semites, limiting their power.

        And that the US has replaced its neo-colonial policy with peacekeeping? Nothing will change, they will crush everyone with a dollar and a bayonet.
        Quote: Shurik70
        So there are several "leading Arab countries". There are those who do not mind crushing Israel. The same Egypt, though at peace with Israel, will not refuse to do nasty things to him. And Turkey itself, although not Arab, is one of the leaders of the Muslim world.

        Several states, even if not Arab states, are claiming the role of leaders of the Muslim world. There are a lot of factors.
        Quote: Shurik70
        So Turkey will not fight itself, it will leave it to others.
        There will be supplies of medicines, food, sending media agents to cover the "bombing of civilians", and assistance to volunteers and mercenaries who wish to personally participate. And even the supply of weapons (this is most likely secret, but they will try to do everything for the possibility of open interference, although this is unlikely to be able to)

        So this is a standard practice, only Turkey has much more opportunities, they can transfer from Syria under a hundred thousand fighters.
    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot 20 May 2021 13: 05
      +2
      Turkey is left to get involved in a war with Israel, pouting with pride, and ... Burst! belay
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 20 May 2021 18: 29
        0
        Without war, no one will allow the Turks in Palestine to defend the Arabs.
        States support Israel. Turkey will not pull the war 100%.
        So nothing serious will follow Erdogan's words.
        But Israel already has a fair amount of hostility towards the Turks.
    4. yehat2
      yehat2 20 May 2021 13: 34
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Turkey will not pull ...
      1. Politically, the US covers Israel's actions
      2. Leading Arab countries will not support.
      3. Israel has all the forces and means to resist.

      Arabs revolt and transfer confrontation into a physical one because the main threat to them does not come at all from the military, but from the bailiffs, judges, police officers, bankers and officials of Israel - from the entire machine of the state apparatus, which pursues a nationalist policy.
      Erdogan's initiative hits the void.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 20 May 2021 13: 55
        +1
        I've never been a fan of either Israel or Jews. But if, in all conscience, the Temple Mount is their national and religious shrine, their temples stood there long before the Arabs even appeared in the world. Why the hell is there a mosque now? The Arabs would like it if, say, the Europeans blew up the Kaaba and, for example, built a Catholic cathedral in its place? Saying that now is their holy place? I think no. Why should everything be different in this case? Do they want a lot?
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 20 May 2021 14: 00
          +5
          So the mosque stands nearby. What is the problem? The Israelis weren't the first either. There are also a bunch of countries where different religions live quietly side by side. More than 40 confessions live in India. And what happens if each begins to claim territories as their own?
          Besides, the big questions are whose temples were there. Not everyone claims to be Israeli or Christian.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 20 May 2021 14: 05
            +5
            I think they offered a bunch of options ... but the SA and other Arabs are setting the Palestinians to aggressive behavior. But this is not Europe .... they will not give a strong boost.

            The Turks themselves behave much worse in the occupied territories. Genocide and evicted and populated by their own. And the innovators are being pressed.
          2. paul3390
            paul3390 20 May 2021 14: 05
            +3
            Well - Jews are not allowed on the Temple Mount? And there seems to be no synagogue? Is not it?

            Is it in India that they get along peacefully ?? That's why they are slaughtered there continuously - Hindus with Muslims, Sikhs, Jains, etc., etc.

            How else? Sooner or later someone will declare any territory as their own. There is no draw - there is no such thing.

            You will argue that the Jews lived there before the Arabs ?? No - the Jews, of course, also once pinned themselves there, killing the local Canaanites to hell, but that was a long time ago. And the heirs of those peoples are no longer left. Therefore, it makes sense to consider the claims of only two - Jews and Arabs. And whatever one may say - IMHO the Jews still have more rights ..
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 20 May 2021 14: 49
              +1
              Today's Aboriginal is the previous conqueror.
          3. Alex777
            Alex777 20 May 2021 19: 04
            0
            So the mosque stands nearby.

            Not. Not near. Right on the site of the Temple of Solomon.
            The square (base) on the site of the Temple with the wall and its remains is clearly visible. Mosques in its place - too.

            The Romans destroyed the Temple. Not Muslims.
            By the way, the golden dome is not Al Aqsa (the 3rd most important shrine of Islam).
            This is the Dome of the Rock - a later mosque, a Muslim sanctuary above the Foundation Stone on the Temple Mount.
            The Foundation Stone is considered the cornerstone of the universe, since it was with ngoyo that the Lord began the Creation of the world.
            The Foundation Stone is located inside the Muslim Dome of the Rock, in the middle of which it rises by 1,25-2 m. The Stone is 17,7 m long and 13,5 m wide.

            Although many people confuse them.
    5. Comrade Kim
      Comrade Kim 20 May 2021 13: 43
      +1
      I agree.
      What they say in Turkey should be divided not by 7, but by 27.
      But if you have teudat-zeut, it is better to install the correct application - this way you will quickly hide in a bomb shelter. It helped a lot:


      I recommend "Kumta - Anxiety"
      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.morha.cumtaalerts
    6. Gado
      Gado 20 May 2021 14: 47
      +4
      It is already clear that until the "Sultan" gets a piece of bread, it will not calm down. Leader of the Muslim world, damn it.
    7. MMX
      MMX 20 May 2021 19: 10
      -2
      Will Turkey send its "Bayraktars" there? Do you think Israel can handle Turkish drones?
  2. Professor
    Professor 20 May 2021 12: 42
    +4
    We are still waiting for the sultan's promises to personally bring "humanitarian aid" to Gaza. So we have been waiting since 2008.
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 12: 50
      +10
      We are still waiting for the sultan's promises to personally bring "humanitarian aid" to Gaza. So we have been waiting since 2008.

      What are you waiting for her? Starving?)
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 May 2021 13: 30
        +3
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        What are you waiting for her? Are you starving?

        "Freebies" are always sweet.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 20 May 2021 12: 51
      +5
      Quote: Professor
      We are still waiting for the sultan's promises to personally bring "humanitarian aid" to Gaza

      Never. He's not crazy. He is a politician. The politician must promise. Performing - optional laughing
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 20 May 2021 12: 52
      +2
      Professor, what kind of statute does the Gaza Strip have? Will the sultan be able to deploy his contingent at the request of Hamas?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 May 2021 13: 10
        +4
        Gaza is an independent Arab state at war with Israel.
        Israel is carrying out a military blockade of Gaza. Only civilian cargo is allowed through.
        Egypt is doing the same.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 20 May 2021 13: 15
          +9
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Gaza is an independent Arab state

          Oh, and will fly to you now from yours)))
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            1. Murmur 55
              Murmur 55 20 May 2021 13: 35
              +5
              The question is how, then, SUCH state will not be democrated until now? In the world and for the lesser of the country under the "khokhloma" paint.
            2. yehat2
              yehat2 20 May 2021 13: 40
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              terrorists in power.

              Why is this putting up labels?
              How is a terrorist with a rocket different from a terrorist in a tank or an airplane?
              Actually, nothing. Both sides are trying to carry out terror.
              On the part of the Arabs, it is a gesture of despair due to the denial of rights and constant displacement.
              On the part of Israel - self-defense against provoked resistance and an instrument of intimidation.
              For example, in the past, a scandal, when on the lands of Arabs suitable for agriculture, Israel placed fields of antipersonnel mines so that they would not climb there. And then, under their cover, these "no-man's" lands were gradually assimilated by fortified outposts and settlements.
              At the UN level, the Israeli administration was forced to abandon mass mining - so the policy has not changed, only instead of mines - visible fences and barriers.
              1. Professor
                Professor 20 May 2021 14: 10
                -7
                Quote: yehat2
                Quote: Professor
                terrorists in power.

                Why is this putting up labels?
                How is a terrorist with a rocket different from a terrorist in a tank or an airplane?
                Actually, nothing. Both sides are trying to carry out terror.
                On the part of the Arabs, it is a gesture of despair due to the denial of rights and constant displacement.
                On the part of Israel - self-defense against provoked resistance and an instrument of intimidation.
                For example, in the past, a scandal, when on the lands of Arabs suitable for agriculture, Israel placed fields of antipersonnel mines so that they would not climb there. And then, under their cover, these "no-man's" lands were gradually assimilated by fortified outposts and settlements.
                At the UN level, the Israeli administration was forced to abandon mass mining - so the policy has not changed, only instead of mines - visible fences and barriers.

                These are not labels, but an internationally recognized fact. Learn materiel and do not carry a blizzard.
                1. yehat2
                  yehat2 20 May 2021 14: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  Learn materiel and don't carry a blizzard

                  were there any facts of mass mining by Israel of lands marked as Palestinian?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 May 2021 14: 39
                    -7
                    Quote: yehat2
                    Quote: Professor
                    Learn materiel and don't carry a blizzard

                    were there any facts of mass mining by Israel of lands marked as Palestinian?

                    Did not have. There were FACTS recognition of Hamas as terrorists.
                    1. yehat2
                      yehat2 20 May 2021 16: 29
                      -4
                      Quote: Professor
                      Quote: yehat2
                      Quote: Professor
                      Learn materiel and don't carry a blizzard

                      were there any facts of mass mining by Israel of lands marked as Palestinian?

                      Did not have.

                      https://macos.livejournal.com/899818.html
                      the north coast near Eilat is mined
                      and a number of other territories along the border, seized lands outside the mandate during the first conflict in the 50s.
                      mines near Lebanon
                      https://www.newsru.co.il/israel/24jun2019/idf301.html
                      Please note that the land is not dry at all - you can plant and grow there.
                      brilliant green near Hermon is abundantly mined, etc.

                      Wherever any movement is possible, a bunch of mines, which only recently and very slowly began to dig. And this is hundreds of hectares of mostly non-desert area.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 20 May 2021 19: 15
                        +5
                        Quote: yehat2
                        https://macos.livejournal.com/899818.html

                        Is the blogger's post FACTS?

                        Quote: yehat2
                        the north coast near Eilat is mined
                        and a number of other territories along the border, seized lands outside the mandate during the first conflict in the 50s.

                        Is the north coast of Eilat a Palestinian land? From whom are they captured? When? And most importantly, when and who was mined?

                        Quote: yehat2
                        mines near Lebanon
                        https://www.newsru.co.il/israel/24jun2019/idf301.html

                        IDF started demining old minefields near the border with Lebanon

                        Quote: yehat2
                        Please note that the land is not dry at all - you can plant and grow there.
                        brilliant green near Hermon is abundantly mined, etc.

                        I am looking for all the Palestinian lands. Where are they?
                        Where "facts of mass mining by Israel of lands marked as Palestinian"?
                        Where is the mined brilliant green at Hermon? What is this nonsense?

                        Quote: yehat2
                        Wherever any movement is possible, a bunch of mines, which only recently and very slowly began to dig. And this is hundreds of hectares of mostly non-desert area.

                        I repeat, Learn materiel and do not carry a blizzard. fool
                      2. yehat2
                        yehat2 21 May 2021 09: 53
                        -3
                        What am I to you, the CIA, to provide the entire map of the minefields?
                        I threw in information in 5 minutes to make it obvious that the fact of mass mining takes place, please note that one link about mine clearance is to the IDF information service, and not to a blogger.
                        in addition, I did not include information about the mining of strategically important points like the Golan, because we are talking about other mining.

                        so stop trolling with an endless list of requirements.
                        I think it is rudeness that you do not want to recognize mining.
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 21 May 2021 11: 48
                        0
                        Quote: yehat2
                        What am I to you, the CIA, to provide the entire map of the minefields?
                        I threw in information in 5 minutes to make it obvious that the fact of mass mining takes place, please note that one link about mine clearance is to the IDF information service, and not to a blogger.
                        in addition, I did not include information about the mining of strategically important points like the Golan, because we are talking about other mining.

                        The fact that you threw something on the fan is beyond doubt. The rest is a problem. Especially with the facts that we never saw.

                        Quote: yehat2
                        so stop trolling with an endless list of requirements.
                        I think it is rudeness that you do not want to recognize mining.

                        ”In God we trust. All others must bring data.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 20 May 2021 13: 58
          +3
          Well - let's put Israeli laws, especially religious ones - also not a fig is not a beacon of democracy and humanism ..
          1. Professor
            Professor 20 May 2021 14: 55
            0
            Quote: paul3390
            Well - let's put Israeli laws, especially religious ones - also not a fig is not a beacon of democracy and humanism ..

            For example?
        3. Fedor M
          Fedor M 20 May 2021 14: 01
          +1
          An interesting fashion has now gone, "all who are against us are terrorists." We will not go far, take the same Donbass, for someone there are terrorists, despite the fact that they do not carry out any kind of terror. And between Gaza and Israel there is a war and there are soldiers on both sides.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 May 2021 13: 33
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        Oh, and will fly to you now from yours)

        Yeah, even you have already arrived, now it will fly to me. Well, he will fly to his own.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 May 2021 13: 37
    +2
    Professor, there are 300 barrels of vinegar, in that humanitarian aid, drink to your health wassat !!!
  • yehat2
    yehat2 20 May 2021 13: 56
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    we are waiting for the sultan's promises to personally bring "humanitarian aid" to Gaza. So we have been waiting since 2008.

    it only works for those who can't google
    Turkey has provided humanitarian assistance to Palestine in recent years for $ 2013 million since 324
    They confirm this with official reporting. In addition, assistance also came from NGOs and informally. For example, Turkomans from Kazan helped.
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 May 2021 14: 11
      -1
      Quote: yehat2
      Quote: Professor
      waiting for the promises of the sultan personally bring "humanitarian aid" to Gaza. So we have been waiting since 2008.

      it only works for those who can't google
      Turkey has provided humanitarian assistance to Palestine in recent years for $ 2013 million since 324
      They confirm this with official reporting. In addition, assistance also came from NGOs and informally. For example, Turkomans from Kazan helped.

      And where is the sultan? Where is his little body?
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 20 May 2021 14: 29
        +2
        this is not a nit-picking. What difference does it make where Erdogan was?
        help was not provided by bombs, like some.
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 May 2021 14: 38
          -5
          Quote: yehat2
          this is not a nit-picking. What difference does it make where Erdogan was?
          help was not provided by bombs, like some.

          Big. It's one thing to send your soldiers to death and quite another personally risk your life. So where is the sultan? We were longing for it.
          1. Ruslan Sulima
            Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 15: 15
            0
            Big. It is one thing to send your soldiers to death and it is quite another to risk your life personally. So where is the sultan? We were longing for it.

            Well, here is already completely in the wrong steppe)
            I am not making excuses for Erdogan's actions, but Netanyahu is not visible on the front lines either)
            Maybe they watched classic films?)
            1. Professor
              Professor 20 May 2021 15: 34
              -3
              Quote: Ruslan Sulima
              I am not making excuses for Erdogan's actions, but Netanyahu is not visible on the front lines either)

              First, Bibi is visible on the front lines.
              Secondly, Bibi served in the special forces and was wounded in action.
              Where did the sultachik risk his life? With your life?
              1. Ruslan Sulima
                Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 15: 46
                0
                First, Bibi is visible on the front lines.
                Secondly, Bibi served in the special forces and was wounded in action.
                Where did the sultachik risk his life? With your life?

                Have you smiled?
                Let's start with the sultan, I never talked about his personal military exploits, but somehow I didn’t see Bibi doing miracles in destroying Israel’s enemies, so that, as in special forces) They say that the English princes also served, and in In the United States, there were (and maybe still are) pilots among politicians.
                Everyone is talking, talking, and somehow Bibi is pissing to start the announced ground operation.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 20 May 2021 15: 54
                  +3
                  "I somehow did not see Bibi doing miracles to destroy the enemies of Israel, so that as in the special forces" ///
                  ---
                  Nataniyahu took part in several amphibious operations. I landed from a helicopter in enemy territory.
                  He was a machine gunner in a special forces detachment.
                  He was wounded in a hostage rescue operation.
                  1. Ruslan Sulima
                    Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 15: 59
                    -3
                    Nataniyahu took part in several amphibious operations. I landed from a helicopter in enemy territory.
                    He was a machine gunner in a special forces detachment.
                    He was wounded in a hostage rescue operation.

                    So where is he now with his experience?) Well, it should be the same according to the professor?)
                    Maybe the problem is that a significant part of Israel does not consider Bibi a worthy leader of the state?
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
                      So where is he now with his experience?

                      Are you offering him to personally participate in the operation? Like parachuting behind enemy lines? What for?))
                  2. yehat2
                    yehat2 20 May 2021 16: 46
                    -3
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Nataniyahu took part in several amphibious operations. I landed from a helicopter in enemy territory.
                    He was a machine gunner in a special forces detachment.
                    He was wounded in a hostage rescue operation.

                    to fly in a helicopter and disembark is scary, but no more
                    to be a machine gunner - well, no matter how to go to the bayonet
                    was wounded in a hostage rescue operation by his own fighter.
                    Almost drowned during shelling of the ferry on a boat, but was rescued
                    And everywhere the same thing - only "took part" and organized.
                    He obviously got to Sayeret Mitkal by family ties, and not by merit.
                    The only and indisputable merit - he himself came to the army, leaving his studies abroad and did not run away when it got hot.
                    Somehow it does not come out very heroically.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 20 May 2021 16: 58
                      +10
                      It is immediately clear from your post that you will never
                      did not take part in military operations.
                    2. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 36
                      +4
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      It is immediately clear from your post that you will never
                      did not take part in military operations.

                      Plyusan perhaps. hi
                    3. yehat2
                      yehat2 21 May 2021 09: 51
                      -2
                      in such - no. But my grandfather was a paratrooper and I understand not badly from his words what it is.
                  3. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 27
                    +7
                    to fly in a helicopter and disembark is scary, but no more

                    Do you know from your own experience?
                    to be a machine gunner - well, no matter how to go to the bayonet

                    Yes, it's complete garbage, only everyone is trying to suppress you, and going to the bayonet in our time ... it shows a great degree of understanding of military affairs laughing
                    was wounded in a hostage rescue operation by his own fighter.

                    Right
                    Almost drowned during shelling of the ferry on a boat, but was rescued

                    Trifles, everyday business, with whom does not happen lol
                    And everywhere the same thing - only "took part" and organized.

                    Like bae, he shot, they shot at him ...
                    He obviously got to Sayeret Mitkal by family ties, and not by merit.

                    Uh-huh, for such tasks, for which they go, the human quality well, it doesn't matter at all - the main thing is relatives))))) What nonsense laughing
                    The only and indisputable merit - he himself came to the army, leaving his studies abroad and did not run away when it got hot.

                    This is the merit of a huge number of Israelis. request
                    Somehow it does not come out very heroically.

                    He is not a hero - he was just a high-quality young man who ended up in Sayeret Maikal - by pulling there you can get a maximum of the KMB landing (together they do, only everything with an FN MAG machine gun), if you are borderline in ability, even pass it, but after the first professional course, if you don’t pull, for your own safety, especially those around you, they will kick you in the ass
                  4. yehat2
                    yehat2 21 May 2021 11: 14
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    but after the first professional course, if you don’t pull

                    you know, these courses are announced with such a breath!
                    Of course, I did not pass all of them, but I completely passed the exam for the maroon beret, without preparation - I was just accidentally informed 2 days before the start.
                    I think you at least roughly understand the level of physical requirements there.
                    I had no need for a beret - I just tested my strength at the age of 18.
                    So I don't want to rush to blindly agree with the fucking level of "professional courses".
                    Of course they are difficult, but only for those who do not prepare or for full downs.
                    It's hard for me to imagine how a healthy person in a barracks cannot prepare for a standard army course.
                    The most difficult course for me is the course of survival in the French Legion. I went through this - an unforgettable experience.
                    Recently, they wanted to introduce compulsory physical training in the army according to the American model. It turned out that a lot of our officers cannot run 5 km in any way, even very slowly, and some even end up in intensive care after such an attempt. Well, this is a disgrace! I am not in the army and I am well over 40 and already a lot of excess weight, but I crawl for 1 grade, I run 10 km several times a week. And this is not difficult, I do not have any special physical data, except for the lack of desire to drink regularly.
                  5. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 21 May 2021 11: 42
                    +1

                    you know, these courses are announced with such a breath!
                    Of course, I did not pass all of them, but I completely passed the exam for the maroon beret, without preparation - I just accidentally reported 2 days before the start

                    A several-day exam is held for joining Sayret Satkalsky even before the army
                    I think you at least roughly understand the level of physical requirements there.
                    I had no need for a beret - I just tested my strength at the age of 18.

                    And I thought that people who had already served in the army were renting out for maroon berets. And then we must serve in this part.
                    It's hard for me to imagine how a healthy person in a barracks cannot prepare for a standard army course.
                    The most difficult course for me is the course of survival in the French Legion. I went through this - an unforgettable experience.

                    Now, if you served in the Legion, then you know very well that there are different courses - green, blue, red. There are many of them, the Matkalevo standard cannot be called. )) Including survival, orientation, anti-terror hostage release (building, plane, bus), etc.
                    Recently, they wanted to introduce compulsory physical training in the army according to the American model. It turned out that a lot of our officers cannot run 5 km in any way, even very slowly, and some even end up in intensive care after such an attempt. Well, this is a disgrace! I am not in the army and I am well over 40 and already a lot of excess weight, but I crawl for 1 grade, I run 10 km several times a week. And this is not difficult, I do not have any special physical data, except for the lack of desire to drink regularly.

                    In special forces, the main thing with all physical and specialized skills is to be able to think in non-standard, stressful situations hi
                  6. yehat2
                    yehat2 21 May 2021 13: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    And I thought that people who had already served in the army were renting out for maroon berets. And then we must serve in this part.

                    it is, I just passed the tests with them.
                  7. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 21 May 2021 13: 05
                    0
                    Good connections))
                  8. yehat2
                    yehat2 21 May 2021 13: 09
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Good connections))

                    in the 90s many miracles happened
                    for example, they gave me a ride for a moment-21.
              2. yehat2
                yehat2 21 May 2021 13: 04
                -1
                and that too, but in general it is required to remain calm and clear of the head. Nothing ingenious is required.
              3. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 May 2021 13: 39
                0
                It depends on what happens))
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 20 May 2021 22: 10
        +3
        to be a machine gunner - well, no matter how to go to the bayonet

        Aren't you ashamed to carry nonsense?
        Who is the first target on the battlefield?
      3. yehat2
        yehat2 21 May 2021 10: 52
        -1
        Quote: Alex777
        Who is the first target on the battlefield?

        what nafig battlefield at the special forces ???
        if it comes to this, it's not special forces, but some amateurs.
        In Chechnya, the difference has been seen many times.
        Spetsnaz specializes in local pinpoint operations, and not on the battlefield, and a machine gunner there in 99% of cases should not enter into battle at all.
        For example, when releasing hostages on an airplane - that's why there is a machine gun ???
        In addition, when infiltrating with a machine gun, a full ...
      4. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 May 2021 11: 45
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        Special forces such as Matkalevsky have a very wide range of tasks - when releasing hostages in Entebbe, for example, machine guns, as the Lightest among other heavy weapons, stopped the approaching Ugandan troops. KMB Matkalisty do with the landing, but all the machine gunners laughing
        And what about ambushes against enemy units? Is there a machine gun too - not that one? wink
        You confuse it with the special forces of internal security, there work among the civilian population and everything is different, although also ... different terrain, situations, etc.
      5. yehat2
        yehat2 21 May 2021 11: 54
        -1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        different terrain, situations, etc.

        if there is a wide range of operations, the very concept of specialization is somehow incorrect.
        These should be either super fighters like the alpha, or ordinary soldiers, who are not all that much.
      6. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 May 2021 12: 06
        0
        Analogue of the GRU special forces laughing
        Specialization - sabotage and reconnaissance activities + anti-terror
        A little bit of everything is regular infantry
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  • Professor
    Professor 20 May 2021 15: 56
    +4
    Quote: Ruslan Sulima
    Everyone is talking, talking, and somehow Bibi is pissing to start the announced ground operation.

    Bibi not only fought, but was wounded. His brother died heroically.
    There is no need for a ground operation. We are not going to occupy Gaza and we do not want to feed 1.5 parasites. Tomorrow Friday everything will be over and Hamas will crawl to lick its wounds.
    Where is the sultan?
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 16: 07
      -2
      Pancake....
      Bibi not only fought, but was wounded. His brother died heroically.

      Does the fact that my family died after the shelling by the so-called heroes of Ukraine also makes me worthy for the post of prime minister of Israel?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 31
        +4
        If you served in special forces, did a bachelor's degree at Harvard, a Master's degree at MIT, you have connections among the elite of the States or Russia or China - of course fellow
      2. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 17: 43
        +2
        If you served in special forces, did a bachelor's degree at Harvard, a Master's degree at MIT, you have connections among the elite of the States or Russia or China - of course a fellow

        This is some kind of garbage, not tolerance! Than you are not satisfied with the Donetsk Polytechnic Institute, then, as far as I remember, the University, State, National)
        Yes, I am not a master's degree, but not a bachelor's degree, a whole specialist) I have no connections in the States, I know my mother's friends in Israel, China is far away.
        Do you still need any other information in the application for the post of Prime Minister of Israel?
        Yes, I forgot. There is combat experience. Ilovaisk, Zhdanovka, Debaltsevo.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 46
        +2
        Israeli citizenship, join / create a party and everything is in your hands fellow
      4. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 17: 50
        +1
        Israeli citizenship, join / create a party and everything is in your hands fellow

        Yes, not) I somehow am in no hurry to accept Russian, I have enough of my DNR)
      5. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 57
        +1
        And if where abroad? We entered Russia with a DPR passport - approx. So what is next?
      6. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 18: 00
        -1
        And if where abroad?

        This is the decision that some comrades from the adjacent territory are expecting from me) Yes, I’ll die for them, but I won’t leave the land of my ancestors ...
      7. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 18: 03
        0
        The question is - what will prevent this from having a Russian passport? Live where you live, you can go on vacation to Cuba, for example, etc.
      8. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 18: 19
        -1
        The question is - what will prevent this from having a Russian passport?

        What's the point? Well, if you think about it, he was born at 75 in Donetsk, lived, served at the KChF, managed to split the fleet.
        I came back, worked, defended my house when I had to. My daughters, my wife are already citizens of the Russian Federation, but I have no reason to bother), I know that I will stay here. I don't wear rose-colored glasses, so somehow fate was favorable) Someone should)
      9. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 18: 24
        0
        What should? To deprive them of the opportunity to travel abroad, in addition to Russia and Abkhazia? Yes gon. I apologize, of course, for prying my nose into my own business, but I don't understand
      10. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 18: 27
        0
        Yes gon.

        For some, gon, for someone the principle. God grant that you would also stand for your land in Krasnodar.
      11. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 18: 32
        0
        recourse did not understand what the principle is, but it doesn’t matter. In Krasnodar? The land issue is a separate issue, even with "their own". What will they do to strangers if they poke their heads, even I am scared to imagine
      12. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 18: 38
        -1
        recourse didn’t understand what the principle was, but it didn’t matter.

        Eh, that's why I was sure that you would not understand the principle?
      13. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 18: 39
        0
        The principle of "nowhere to retreat"?
      14. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 19: 02
        -1
        The principle of "nowhere to retreat"?

        Yes, there is where, but why, but how to look into your eyes in the next world?)
      15. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 19: 24
        0
        Oooh ... what does the possibility of traveling abroad have to do with it? laughing
      16. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 19: 33
        -1
        Oooh.

        So I’m talking about, there’s no time) Well, or I can’t at all) Then somehow) So I’m an optimist (without it anywhere)), but this does not interfere with seeing reality.
      17. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 19: 35
        +1
        Now I understand, sorry, I slowed down)))
  • Alex777
    Alex777 20 May 2021 22: 15
    0
    Everything in your biography is good.
    One thing is not clear - that the Jews got mad?
    My dad is Tersky, and my mom is from the Kuban.
    But I don’t understand you. hi
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 21 May 2021 12: 38
    -2
    One thing is not clear - that the Jews got mad?

    Why do you think so?
    People are different everywhere, there are scum, there are quite adequate ones.
    But according to my moral principles, I cannot classify a single person who drowns in the war as adequate.
    Is that why I want peace? And the enemy is still yelling about the gilyak, on which I need to wear (according to him, however, he already had something with this case)?
    Does the professor here carry heresy, justifying military actions, proving his exclusivity?
    Why do not all supermen remember that their states, so to speak, were defeated by barbarians (in their opinion)?
    And at the expense of getting angry, they are wrong) Once again, I repeat, there are Jewish acquaintances who are worried about how it is, we supply weapons that will try to kill you! There are relatives who moved from Baghdad to Saudi Arabia, Turkey after the actions of another hegemon.
    I don't want to bury and mourn anyone ... But I have to.
  • Alex777
    Alex777 21 May 2021 12: 58
    +2
    I don't want to bury and mourn anyone ... But I have to.

    Here you can not disagree.
    There is one but - the Arabs do not recognize and constantly attack Israel. Then they get it, they calm down and after a while they start all over again.
    It is the Persians in state policy that the denial of Israel's right to exist is recorded. Like Bandera - denial of the existence of the LPR.
    They are nervous in Israel.
    Russia and Israel have problems from too greyhound warriors.
    There are also enough people who want to play us off, and from the bushes to see how we fight, both in the States and among the Persians / Arabs.
    But usually we manage to find a common language. hi
  • Professor
    Professor 20 May 2021 19: 05
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan Sulima
    Pancake....
    Bibi not only fought, but was wounded. His brother died heroically.

    Does the fact that my family died after the shelling by the so-called heroes of Ukraine also makes me worthy for the post of prime minister of Israel?

    Did your relatives go to the enemy's rear? Have you learned how to write the names of countries with a capital letter? Were you ambassadors to the UN? Were some of the best finance ministers in the world? Not? Well then, they will not be a prime minister?
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 19: 09
    0
    Did your relatives go to the enemy's rear?

    Relatives were stupidly killed by ukrovoyaks with 120 mm art in the morning when they were sleeping at home ..
    Don't teach me the spelling rules, there is no country like Ukraine with a capital letter after that shelling
    Any questions?
  • Professor
    Professor 20 May 2021 20: 01
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan Sulima
    Any questions?

    There is. Is there or is there no such country?
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 20: 05
    -2
    Is there or is there no such country?

    But you and the Arabs need to answer this question.
  • Professor
    Professor 20 May 2021 20: 07
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan Sulima
    Is there or is there no such country?

    But you and the Arabs need to answer this question.

    And I ask you. You haven't learned to capitalize the name of my country.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 47
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan Sulima
    Relatives were stupidly killed by ukrovoyaks with 120 mm art in the morning when they were sleeping at home ..

    Let the killers return. hi
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 40
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Bibi not only fought, but was wounded. His brother died heroically.

    Quote: Professor
    Where is the sultan?

    Oleg, here I can not help but add. hi
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  • surfdude
    surfdude 20 May 2021 15: 59
    0
    After graduating in 1967, Netanyahu returned to Israel to serve in the Israel Defense Forces. He served in the elite sabotage and reconnaissance unit Sayeret Matkal. He participated in several military operations on the territory of enemy countries, including in the raid on the Beirut airport, and in the battle of Karam. On May 13, 1969, during Operation Bulmus 4, he nearly drowned due to the weight of his backpack with military equipment, after he and other soldiers were thrown into the water as a result of an attack on the lead boat, but was rescued. [4] [5] [6] During the operation to free the aircraft of the Sabena airline captured by Palestinian terrorists on May 9, 1972, he was wounded by the bullet of another soldier during the neutralization of the terrorist Khalsa [7] [8].
    This is from Wikipedia.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 20 May 2021 16: 32
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    risk your life personally.

    I do not understand, are you now threatening a person who wants to come to Palestine?
  • Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 20 May 2021 18: 01
    -1
    And where is the sultan? Where is his little body?

    Explains to taxpayers in Izmir, Bursa
    Why feed these parasites
  • Tagan
    Tagan 20 May 2021 12: 43
    -3
    Erdogan's pants will soon crack. Or mug. Once he played a game of "land gatherer".
    1. yehat2
      yehat2 20 May 2021 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: Tagan
      Somehow he started playing

      as? He raises a topical question - why the peacekeepers are again under attack by the army.
      Why the Arabs again had nothing left but to start mass terrorism, causing a serious return fire from the Israeli army.
      This is probably the genes they have, in Palestine, such, terrorist. The Israeli state does not provide any other explanation.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 42
        +1
        as? He raises a topical question - why the peacekeepers are again under attack by the army.

        Because strikes against Israeli civilians are being carried out, including from the territory populated by the peaceful population. And 90% of infrastructures have long been among or under residential buildings.
        Why the Arabs again had nothing left but to start mass terrorism, causing a serious return fire from the Israeli army.

        It was possible for the loot allocated by the States, Saydy, Zalivniki, the EU and Israel to try to build a state like the Jews. And it was possible to rip up the money between their own elites and blame the Jews for everything, in order to get more money to rip it up - already as victims of Israeli aggression. Which is what they chose
        These are probably the genes they have, in Palestine, such terrorist

        What do genes have to do with it? Here is Israel - without a drop of oil, on our own lands, in terms of the aggregate life expectancy, income (based on PPP) and access to education (HDI), it overtook Japan in 2019. But we Palestinians live in the full area of ​​expertise of a proctologist. Who is to blame - do not go to grandma fellow
        The Israeli state does not provide any other explanation.

        Gives - the Palestinians are unhappy people who are held hostage by their leaders / organizations / ideologies (underline the necessary), therefore, after a bunch of missiles at our peacekeepers, we do not need to do the same yes
        .
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 21 May 2021 10: 13
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Gives - Palestinians are unhappy people held hostage by their leaders

          They are not held hostage by their leaders, but by the difference in the formation of the Jewish and Muslim communities.
          The Jews, taking advantage of their advantage, mainly in knowledge, because mainly not the latest specialists who come there, are constantly ousting the Arabs. There are other Jews - those who are like Arabs. They live just as poorly in other ghettos. There have been several reports on this recently.
          So, continuing the theme, the Jews (basically the most aggressively minded wealthy elite = power) continue to creep pressure on the Arabs, pushing them out of Palestinian life and using the Jewish population as a support. This movement is well reflected in the given map in time.
          And the Palestinian Arabs are unhappy because they are alone against an objectively stronger ethnic group and there is no one to intercede for them. And when all the lands of Palestine are captured by the Jewish community, where will it go? After all, the Palestinians are saved only by the fact that there are not so many Jews and the neighbors will not like the outright genocide.
          Therefore, the Israeli administration is very FAVORABLE when the Palestinians, without further ado, begin to engage in terrorism - they do not have enough culture and knowledge to organize more cunning resistance. But in the end, they provide an excellent reason for revenge and legalization of expansion. And it is the Jewish administration that regularly PROVECTS conflicts in order to make the next leap of conquest.
          Why did the first war begin in the 50s and how did it end? After all, initially the Arabs were not at all inclined to war.
          Who started the war with Egypt, as a result of which the Golan Heights and part of Syria turned out to be Israeli? If you look at the events, only 1 reinforced infantry battalion knocked over the Syrians. This is about how the neighbors were preparing for war and who really wanted it.
          Jewish ears are sticking out everywhere, but the media is pouring something completely different - it is the evil Egypt that detained the ship. Therefore, we the GOOD have declared war. It is worth remembering how Germany declared war on Poland.
          The formal reason for the beginning was the radio station burned by the Poles on the border.

          Palestinians should not be considered idiots who choose psycho leaders. The situation is not at all the same as you see it or describe Israel.

          I am not delighted with the Arabs who live there - they are no less aggressive.
          But the current situation is like the Portuguese beat the Aztecs.
          This is a beating.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 May 2021 11: 13
            +1
            They are not held hostage by their leaders, but by the difference in the formation of the Jewish and Muslim communities.
            The Jews, taking advantage of their advantage, mainly in knowledge, because mainly not the latest specialists who come there, are constantly ousting the Arabs. There are other Jews - those who are like Arabs. They live just as poorly in other ghettos. There have been several reports on this recently.
            So, continuing the theme, the Jews (basically the most aggressively minded wealthy elite = power) continue to creep pressure on the Arabs, pushing them out of Palestinian life and using the Jewish population as a support. This movement is well reflected in the given map in time.
            And the Palestinian Arabs are unhappy because they are alone against an objectively stronger ethnic group and there is no one to intercede for them. And when all the lands of Palestine are captured by the Jewish community, where will it go? After all, the Palestinians are saved only by the fact that there are not so many Jews and the neighbors will not like the outright genocide.
            Therefore, the Israeli administration is very FAVORABLE when the Palestinians, without further ado, begin to engage in terrorism - they do not have enough culture and knowledge to organize more cunning resistance. But in the end, they provide an excellent reason for revenge and legalization of expansion. And it is the Jewish administration that regularly PROVECTS conflicts in order to make the next leap of conquest.

            what
            Profanity - Arabs are not poor, the percentage of Palestinians with higher education is higher than that of other Arabs, Jews living in peripheral cities are not attracted to this education with all the benefits of admission, tuition fees and even scholarships for living. Palestine - Israeli elites dream of resettling all local Arabs to it and Gaza, and then forget about their existence. Expansion - since the beginning of the 90s, the IDF left the cities of Judea and Samaria, in 2005 - along with the army, the settlers left Gaza. Write without knowing.
            Why did the first war begin in the 50s and how did it end? After all, initially the Arabs were not at all inclined to war.

            lol
            The Secretary General of the League of Arab States Azzam Pasha made it clear to the Jewish envoys, who were trying to prevent the war, that there would be no peaceful partition of Palestine and they would have to defend their right to any part of the Palestinian territory with arms in their hands .. In October 1947, he declared:
            ... it will be a war of annihilation, lightning-fast carnage, which will be remembered in the same way as the massacre of the Mongols or the crusades. hi
            Who started the war with Egypt, as a result of which the Golan Heights and part of Syria turned out to be Israeli?

            With Egypt - Israel laughing And who in the history of the Golan Heights started the war - don't you remind me?
            If you look at the events, only 1 reinforced infantry battalion knocked over the Syrians.

            laughing In a bayonet attack wink 4 brigades, two of them tank under the cover of aviation and artillery. everything is accessible and easy here https://pikabu.ru/story/shestidnevnaya_voyna_chast_v_siriyskiy_front_6300504
            Plus minus is true
            This is about how the neighbors were preparing for war and who really wanted it.
            Jewish ears are sticking out everywhere, but the media is pouring something completely different - it is the evil Egypt that detained the ship. Therefore, we the GOOD have declared war. It is worth remembering how Germany declared war on Poland.
            The formal reason for the beginning was the radio station burned by the Poles on the border.

            Belli's case was the blockade of the straits in the Red Sea, the introduction, contrary to the agreements, of troops in Sinai, the expulsion of UN troops from the Israeli-Egyptian border, and so on. And Germany is Nazi - yes, a country popular with the Arabs, the founder of the Palestinian national movement was a personal friend of Hitler, participated in the founding of the SS Hajar division, etc., Syria - so all intelligence was created by fugitive Nazis, like tank troops laughing
            Palestinians should not be considered idiots who choose psycho leaders. The situation is not at all the same as you see it or describe Israel.
            It is as you describe it - you have never been to the same Gaza, etc. laughing
            I am not delighted with the Arabs who live there - they are no less aggressive.
            But the current situation is like the Portuguese beat the Aztecs.
            This is a beating.

            Nefig bombard Lisbon request
            1. yehat2
              yehat2 21 May 2021 11: 46
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              Quote: Krasnodar
              With Egypt - Israel And who in the history of the Golan Heights started the war - do not remind?

              with pleasure. 6 day war

              Before that, there was some verbiage from the neighbors
              like the Syrian Ministry of Defense
              "As a military man, I am sure that the time has come to join the war of destruction," said the Syrian Defense Minister and future president of the country Hafez Assad.
              And also a number of incidents - terrorist attacks and retaliation operations by Israel on NEPALESTINSKAYA.

              Egypt was attacked without a declaration of war by a pre-planned massive air raid (almost 200 aircraft) - this is a lot even by the standards of ww2 and the US Iraqi operation.
              The Syrians, according to the treaty with Egypt, were obliged to intervene.
              And Israel, attacking Egypt, knew about it.
              And when the Syrians prepared a punitive sortie with their air force (less than 10 aircraft), Israel was already ready for this, and Syria did not have ground forces for an offensive.
              After a repulsed raid, already 30 minutes after the raid, Israel struck the Syrian airfields and almost completely nullified the Syrian aviation - obviously, a pre-planned operation, invaded Syrian territory, recaptured the Golans and the city nearby and entrenched there.
              Somehow it does not seem that Syria is striving for escalation.
              It's just worth making it clear that starting the war with Egypt, Israel began a de facto confrontation with its allies, who signed appropriate agreements to help Egypt.
              In general, the situation does not look like "the Syrians are to blame for everything."
              Rather, they got it for others.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 May 2021 11: 58
                +1
                And also a number of incidents - terrorist attacks and retaliation operations by Israel on NEPALESTINSKAYA.

                Who started to bomb Israel?
                ] And when the Syrians prepared a punitive sortie with their air force (less than 10 aircraft), Israel was already ready for this, and Syria did not have ground forces for an offensive.
                After a repulsed raid, already 30 minutes after the raid, Israel struck the Syrian airfields and almost completely nullified the Syrian aviation - obviously, a pre-planned operation, invaded Syrian territory, recaptured the Golans and the city nearby and entrenched there.

                Syrians and Jordanians were asked in advance to sit quietly during the showdown with Egypt. Who is their doctor?
                Somehow it does not seem that Syria is striving for escalation.
                It's just worth making it clear that starting the war with Egypt, Israel began a de facto confrontation with its allies, who signed appropriate agreements to help Egypt.
                In general, the situation does not look like "the Syrians are to blame for everything."
                Rather, they got it for others.

                Yes, from 1949 to 1967 she fired at Israeli civilians from these heights, and did not strive for escalation laughing
                1. yehat2
                  yehat2 21 May 2021 13: 52
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                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Who started to bomb Israel?

                  and it was fun there.
                  Israel, too, did not hesitate to bomb.
                  But the Jewish Wikipedia does not. But there is an outrageous role of the USSR as the instigator of the conflict. Why so many lies? The exacerbation was extremely unprofitable for the USSR.
                  The same Nasser left an ambivalent impression in the Kremlin - on the one hand, like "his boyfriend" in communication, but a pain in the ass when it came to action.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 21 May 2021 15: 03
                    0
                    On the Absolutely Jewish Wikipedia lol
                    The USSR transmitted intelligence about the concentration of the IDF on the border, and this is how it all began. Israel did not hesitate to bomb in response to the shelling of its own civilians - so on fig these Syrians fell to someone.
                    Whatever impression Nasser made, he got for free and Aswan Platinum and a bunch of weapons. As well as the Syrians, by the way.
                    1. yehat2
                      yehat2 21 May 2021 15: 26
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      On the Absolutely Jewish Wikipedia

                      there is wikipedia and Jewish wikipedia
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 21 May 2021 15: 35
                        0
                        So read plain, not blackberry
                    2. yehat2
                      yehat2 21 May 2021 15: 27
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Israel did not hesitate to bomb in response to the shelling of its own civilians

                      in fact, Israel's main blows were not at all at the peaceful, but at the construction of a water canal. And not in response to shelling, but in response to construction.
                      In response to the Syrian shelling, Israel responded mainly with protests.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 21 May 2021 15: 37
                        0
                        I mean that the Syrians attacked the civilians, in response they extinguished their facilities, about the war for water - there was no need to work on "de-energizing" the main source of water at that time.
                      2. yehat2
                        yehat2 21 May 2021 15: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        there was no need to work on "de-energizing" the main, at that time, source of water.

                        I do not want to get deeply into this showdown.
                        There, all sides have so much unsightly that it is impossible to find the right side.
                        At least I don't feel like getting up on one.
                        Even the position of the USSR is not pleasant.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 21 May 2021 16: 22
                        0
                        Any conflict is inherently ugly
  • klimalekc
    klimalekc 20 May 2021 12: 43
    +2
    Turkey is trying to squeeze Iran out of the political field of Palestine?
  • CYM
    CYM 20 May 2021 13: 24
    +3
    Let the NATO member Turkey and the main ally outside NATO Israel measure their merits. And Russia is more prudent to be a neutral spectator, having finished off the barmaley in Syria under the guise. winked
  • flicker
    flicker 20 May 2021 13: 25
    -1
    initiative of the Turkish authorities on the need for "physical protection of the people of Palestine"
    The Turks keep their nose to the wind, they noticed that the US State Department is considering the option of destroying Israel as a way to maintain its influence on the BV, and through this, the world as a whole.
    ---
    We do not need the destabilization of the BW, and the victory of one of the parties (be it Israel or Palestine) will not eradicate the problems of the BW, moreover, they will only worsen them, and through this the economic situation in the world as a whole. (China's activity in resolving this conflict is proof of this).

    ---
    Therefore, we need peace ...
  • Poetry
    Poetry 20 May 2021 13: 33
    -2
    Erdogan is completely loose. It seems that he is trying to lift a barbell that is too heavy. Either he breaks his spine, or observes. Both will look like something not very good.
  • Stepan S
    Stepan S 20 May 2021 13: 34
    +4
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed an order on the evacuation of Russian citizens and citizens of the CIS countries from the Gaza Strip.
    "In connection with the sharp deterioration of the situation in the Gaza Strip as a result of the military operation of the Armed Forces of the State of Israel, provide for the evacuation of citizens of the Russian Federation and citizens of the CIS member states in the Gaza Strip who expressed such a wish," the presidential decree says.
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  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 May 2021 13: 43
    -1
    Where a horse with a hoof, there is cancer with a claw.
    Turkey is in trouble today, like a dog from a garbage can with fleas.
    Lira collapsed, inflation, foreign exchange reserves at zero. Maybe he is thinking of stirring up a small war? This will only deepen the crisis there. Why is this to him?
    Turks, these are not the world's favorite plasticines, tortured by the Zionist invaders. No one will hold Israel by the hand. Can snap back so that it does not seem a little.
    We see, most likely, a Middle Eastern variation of the aria of the Odessa Urka from the opera "Oh, hold me seven!"
    1. CYM
      CYM 20 May 2021 14: 30
      +3
      IMHO Here both Bibi and the Sultan are tempted to adjust their rating with a small war. But a little war with Israel ... a bad idea. winked
    2. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 16: 41
      +1
      We see, most likely, a Middle Eastern variation of the aria of the Odessa Urka from the opera "Oh, hold me seven!"

      But Odessa is not the same ...
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 49
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Turkey is in trouble today, like a dog from a garbage can with fleas.
      Lira collapsed, inflation, foreign exchange reserves at zero. Maybe he is thinking of stirring up a small war? So it will only deepen the crisis there

      However, the sultan is on the rampage. I wonder when will he stumble? hi
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 20 May 2021 14: 47
    0
    Well, let Erdogan try to enter the Armed Forces in Palestine. Let's see how NATO will remain intact then. It seems that the United States, despite the fact that the Turks are a member of NATO, will go along with the Jews on Turkish patrols.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 May 2021 15: 44
    0
    laughing One sneezed at the statements of the leader of some regional "power"
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 May 2021 15: 47
    -1
    Compared to news from overseas, our news starts to look like things are happening in a parallel universe. In a good way for us.  laughing And the further you go, the more striking this contrast will be. 

    Then the most observant ones will run from there, then the smartest, then the richest ... what to do with them all here, the most important thing is that many of our people are already beginning to understand that beyond the hill there is really a parallel universe and we are parallel to it.This is a new paradox: their universe is parallel to us , but we observe it perpendicularly laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 May 2021 16: 04
    -1
    First, in the current situation, Israel has outright lost the information war. Secondly, the Arab and Turkish communities are extremely strong in Europe, and Erdogan, once again, can not only threaten, but also open the "migrant tap". Moreover, from both sides simultaneously: from Turkey and from Libya. And Tunisia and Morocco, friendly to Erdogan, will help at his request (hello to Spain). In three, European and American, for Israel, partners reliably "lie" under the rule of neo-liberals who consider any war to be an atrocity if they do not wage it for "strengthening and spreading democracy and universal human values ​​throughout the world." And Israel, from their point of view, is now waging a "war against democracy" without giving an opportunity to hold "popular, democratic elections" in the PNA.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 20 May 2021 17: 40
    +2
    Quote: Krasnodar
    If you served in special forces, did a bachelor's degree at Harvard, a Master's degree at MIT, you have connections among the elite of the States or Russia or China - of course fellow

    Why are you so cruel .. Not a master's at MIT.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 20 May 2021 17: 47
      -1
      Master of Management, EMNIP))))
  • Shahno
    Shahno 20 May 2021 17: 57
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Master of Management, EMNIP))))

    Well, I'll reveal the secret BS, MBA received in Bradley, Peoria. A master's in engineering at Austin. My friend went to graduate school at MIT ... His experience showed me what it really means to overestimate your capabilities.
    Ps. It is very, very difficult there without connections. In all resumes, I indicate that I also graduated from a Russian university, because this is the merit of my teachers at the Physicotechnical Institute.
  • zoland
    zoland 20 May 2021 19: 18
    0
    Welcome to the hell
  • flicker
    flicker 20 May 2021 19: 59
    +2
    initiative of the Turkish authorities on the need for "physical protection of the people of Palestine"
    By the way, Turkey's initiative had an effect - Israel is curtailing the operation in Gaza.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 May 2021 20: 20
    0
    These statements are actively discussed on the network, and a hypothesis has been put forward that Turkey could send its military to Gaza.

    The sultan is striding wide, the pants would not have torn.))
  • Iris
    Iris 20 May 2021 23: 37
    0
    All the "delights of life" Arabs from Gaza arranged for themselves. How many years they yelled about the occupation - well, the Israelis left Gaza. Leaving empty, ready-to-use buildings, infrastructure, agricultural plantings. What did the Arabs do about it? They were razed to the ground.
    According to the method of the "smart" grandson, they tore off the hat from his head, tore it, burn it and buried it in the ground in order to eradicate the memory of the "grandmother".

    Well, and then they began to "freeze their ears" in an adult way: instead of the relatively moderate Fatah, they chose populist terrorists, Hamas, in the first free elections, which - in the best traditions of the Nazis - immediately became the last.
    There is no need to explain why the terrorists are, but they are populists because the slogan "throw Jews into the sea" - by the time Hamas came to power - was as realistic as, for example, Britain's intention to return the status of colonies to the States.

    Now, practically the only "state" item of income in Gaza is a business on the blood of its own citizens. Somewhere they are sawing funds from the construction budget, somewhere they "master" educational, cultural and all sorts of other programs. And in Gaza, they are sawing money issued for terrorist attacks and supporting the families of terrorists.
    Every nation is worthy of its rulers (c)
  • out of habit
    out of habit 21 May 2021 03: 20
    +1
    "International" forces can only form the United States, but they will not go against Israel. Turkey cannot collect purely Islamic countries either. Austria licked well.
  • Sergey3
    Sergey3 21 May 2021 11: 59
    +1
    I watch the utilization of the planet's population is gaining momentum by any means.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 21 May 2021 12: 27
    0
    Quote: flicker
    initiative of the Turkish authorities on the need for "physical protection of the people of Palestine"
    By the way, Turkey's initiative had an effect - Israel is curtailing the operation in Gaza.

    Quote: Alex777
    So the mosque stands nearby.

    Not. Not near. Right on the site of the Temple of Solomon.
    The square (base) on the site of the Temple with the wall and its remains is clearly visible. Mosques in its place - too.

    The Romans destroyed the Temple. Not Muslims.
    By the way, the golden dome is not Al Aqsa (the 3rd most important shrine of Islam).
    This is the Dome of the Rock - a later mosque, a Muslim sanctuary above the Foundation Stone on the Temple Mount.
    The Foundation Stone is considered the cornerstone of the universe, since it was with ngoyo that the Lord began the Creation of the world.
    The Foundation Stone is located inside the Muslim Dome of the Rock, in the middle of which it rises by 1,25-2 m. The Stone is 17,7 m long and 13,5 m wide.

    Although many people confuse them.

    I recently read an archaeologist who generally stated that there is no "wailing wall", and this is the remains of the Roman temple of Jupiter laughingOmar1, having conquered Jerusalem, builds Al Aksu on the site of the remains of the Hadrian temple to Jupiter, which was previously destroyed by Christians, and so he builds a mosque there, and calls this place Al Aksoy or the end of the world.



    Allegedly, the prophet Muhammad ascended from her to heaven, where he was given the commandment to pray. Reception at that time is quite common.



    There are 6 or 7 Al Aks in the world now. It is hard to believe that the prophet ascended to heaven regularly, from different places, in order to receive the next portion of the commandments.



    The status of the true Al Aqsa, the Jerusalem mosque receives only in the late 60s and early 70s