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"Russian intelligence cannot compare with Chinese" - estimates of the Latvian observer

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Petrov and Boshirov, who in the West are considered employees of the intelligence community of the Russian Federation



Recently, Russian diplomats have been massively expelled from Western countries. The reason for this lies in the gross blunders of the Russian intelligence, which are mainly caused by the imperfection of its strategy.

This opinion is expressed by the Latvian observer Zintis Znotins and is published on the pages of the Bulgarian Military:

Everyone is now convinced that Russia is using cruel and dishonest methods to increase its influence or to make a decision that suits only Moscow. And the Russian Federation is not even trying to hide it.

In his words, Russian ambassadors are not sociable, they are extremely reluctant to comment on the current situation and explain the position of their country. The author believes that diplomats from the PRC behave completely differently:

Which would you prefer: the friendly, smiling and sociable Chinese ambassador or the grumpy and silent Russian?

The observer believes that the behavior of diplomats is caused by doctrinal differences in the foreign policy of the two countries. Russia is pursuing an aggressive line, not hiding its unfriendly actions. "China is much smarter": it drives its future "victims" into "investment traps."

The intelligence doctrines of the two countries also differ:

Why recruit people abroad, where other special services operate? There is an easier way to invite them to China and process them at home [...] Russian intelligence cannot match Chinese

- supposes Znotinsh.
In his words, all Chinese enterprises, both private and public, and institutions work for the intelligence of the PRC, and they are ready to provide any assistance in recruiting agents.

It makes me think about our own entrepreneurs and politicians who attend events organized and sponsored by China [...] Many Latvians have visited China, but none of them has been caught. They're probably just good at what they do, but who are they?

- concludes in the style of "witch hunt" Latvian observer.
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  1. knn54
    knn54 19 May 2021 09: 26
    +13
    - invite them to China and process them at home.
    Chinese vodka and clonidine is not needed.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 19 May 2021 09: 55
      +6
      "Russian intelligence cannot compare with Chinese" - estimates of the Latvian observer
      the stump is clear .. there are over ten times more of them, and they are everywhere ... even in the outback, where can you follow them?
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 19 May 2021 10: 03
        +3
        Which would you prefer: the friendly, smiling and sociable Chinese ambassador or the grumpy and silent Russian?
        Most likely a deceitful and arrogant American ...
        1. Richard
          Richard 19 May 2021 11: 01
          +5
          Whom would you prefer: a friendly, smiling and outgoing Chinese ambassador or grumpy and silent Russian?

          grumpy and silent - it's like !!! ??? belay
          type - a deaf-mute chatter-grumbling? smile
          1. Evil troll
            Evil troll 19 May 2021 11: 39
            +1
            It's just that they silently show the fig to Latvians from the window of the embassy ... So it turns out taciturn and grumpy.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 19 May 2021 14: 09
              +1
              The strained false attempts of the Latvian brake Znotiš to spit on Russia and try to fulfill the instructions of the State Department: to embroil Russia with China are very ridiculous. laughing

              Especially amused by his phrase: "Which would you prefer: a friendly, smiling and sociable Chinese ambassador or a grumpy and silent Russian?" A person who has never been to Latvia will not understand all the humor contained in it. I also had to be there on business trips in the early 90s. And I remember very well how the landlords of the apartments where I lived said about the Latvians: "I hate this cold nation! Unfriendly, unsmiling, usually silent, but angry, grumpy and arrogant when you collide! Evil fish blood flows in them!" This is what he himself was convinced of more than once, especially among the Latvian youth in relation to the Russians. They just scoffed at the locals! More than once the Latvians sent me the other way when they asked for directions. And I remember very well how a Latvian woman who asked in Latvian (outwardly I look like a Latvian) backed away in fright and quickly retreated when I answered her in Russian.
      2. frruc
        frruc 19 May 2021 10: 23
        0
        Petrov and Boshirov, who in the West are considered employees of the intelligence community of the Russian Federation

        Well, for the new Stirlitz. drinks
    2. RealPilot
      RealPilot 19 May 2021 10: 00
      +6
      Are Russian ambassadors quarrelsome? Come on ... Nice people.
      I personally had the experience of communicating with some on business trips, they are greeted perfectly! And silence, coupled with rudeness, is not noticed, in an informal circle they are as pleasant as at receptions.

      These are, apparently, the Russophobic cliches of the Latvian "hack" they do not let him sleep ...

      But about the Chinese and the strategy, I can say that the USSR also lured half the world into "investment traps." And where is the money, where is the influence? Debts written off, the country no longer exists! Efficiency is a big question. The distribution of money, about which this Latvian so dreamily sings (probably really wants to be given it too) is a factor of short-term politics. None of the debtors wants to remember about the money spent long ago.

      Well, it's worth dwelling on the Chinese mentality and a completely different language. It will be very difficult for China to "take over the world", for this they will have to Westernize, and this is a trap. Their version of life does not quite suit us and most Europeans / Americans, well, Latin Americans and Indians too ...
      An attempt to integrate into Western society leads to the creation of "Chinatowns", that is, "little Chinas" in big cities. And nothing more ... And alone they are just ordinary people, even a little strange for their neighbors. They can open a restaurant or a shop with good prices.

      And the Chinese are also very noticeable, almost like blacks. Russian for a European or American is just white, here you need to know the subtleties of faces and the sound of languages ​​in order to distinguish them.
      1. pytar
        pytar 19 May 2021 11: 03
        -8
        Are Russian ambassadors quarrelsome? Come on ... Nice people.

        Unfortunately, the Latvian observer is right about that. I can judge by the Russian ambassadors in Bulgaria. The former Anatoly Makarov really looked cute.

        But I was not remembered in any way by deeds, except for a somewhat stupid scandal. He served his entire mandate in the warm chair of the ambassador, no activity. On the national holiday "September 6, Unification Day", the American ambassad published an official greeting to the Bulgarian people. To the site of the Russian. the embassies were silent, they wrote about some completely extraneous events. Having been in Bulgaria for many years, Makarov never taught a word of Bulgarian! Of course it is not necessary, but the American ambassador Gero Mustafa in a very short time began to recite Bulgarian poems! With an accent, and all the same, this is a tin of respect for the country that accepted you! I don’t think that it’s easier to learn Bulgarian as an American than, for example, a Russian person who also speaks Slavic!
        As for the new Ross. Ambassador Eleanor Mitrofanov, let's see ...

        I will not comment yet on how she looks and what her behavior is, at least she promised to learn Bulgarian. hi
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          19 May 2021 11: 24
          +4
          Based on the population dynamics, the Bulgarian language will go out of use in the not too distant future. Sad as it is.
          1. pytar
            pytar 19 May 2021 11: 45
            -6
            Based on the population dynamics, the Bulgarian language will go out of use in the not too distant future. Sad as it is.

            Judging by the population dynamics, such a threat exists for the Russian language as well. Sadly.
        2. frruc
          frruc 19 May 2021 11: 41
          +1
          In appearance, all European (American) officials are the nicest looking people.
          I like people your words and deedssuch as Mr. Lebed, Mr. Gerasimov.
        3. forester1971
          forester1971 19 May 2021 13: 53
          +1
          It is very strange to read your comment based entirely on your personal feelings. In this you are no different from the author of the article under discussion. How do you know that the previous Ambassador of Russia did not know the Bulgarian language? That he didn't speak it publicly? It doesn't mean anything yet. Your conclusions based on a selection of small facts and what you "thought" are, to put it mildly, unfounded.
          1. pytar
            pytar 19 May 2021 14: 54
            -2
            It is very strange to read your comment based entirely on your personal feelings.

            So I shared my personal impressions! Had the opportunity to attend public events on site with Mr. Makarov. By the way, he was criticized by both our Russophile and well-known Russian representatives, for example, Gen. L. Reshetnikov / former director of RISS /. Basically, the critics referred to the lack of communication, poor organization of events, poor knowledge of the country, etc. In comparison with Anatoly Makarov, the new Ambassador of the Russian Federation Eleonora Mitrofanova is much more active!

            How do you know that the previous Ambassador of Russia did not know the Bulgarian language? That he didn't speak it publicly?

            True, I don't know if Makarov speaks Bulgarian, but he always spoke only in Russian. And he spoke boringly. It is not necessary to know the language of the country, but people are always pleased with such a gesture of respect! Moreover, if you were an ambassador for 5 years to that country!

            Although in bad Bulgarian, am. n. Gero Mustafa, just a few months after her appointment, emotionally recited the Bulgarian classical poets!


            She has collected a huge collection of Bulgarian songs, participates in our holidays, dances our dances dressed in Bulgarian. traditional clothing. Publishes blogs about his unofficial travels around the country.




            The ambassador should be sympathetic, this is one of the ego's professional tasks! He is the face of his country to foreigners!

            Your conclusions based on a selection of small facts and what you "thought" are, to put it mildly, unfounded.

            Perhaps, but comparing I did not see anything successful with Makarov.
            I'm not talking about politics, I'm talking about a purely human relationship! hi
            1. boris epstein
              boris epstein 20 May 2021 15: 44
              0
              "An ambassador must evoke sympathy, this is one of the ego's professional tasks! He is the face of his country in foreign countries!"
              The ambassadors, like the state of Russia, owe ANYONE and NOTHING. He should ONLY Russia, whose interests they are OBLIGED to protect.
              "Even though in bad Bulgarian, Am. Gero Mustafa, just a few months after her appointment, emotionally recited the Bulgarian poets of the classics!"
              Sweet flattery on little things with a brick in your bosom.
              The difference between the Russian (Soviet) and American schools of diplomacy is that the Russian one behaves within the framework of diplomatic protocols and international treaties, and US diplomacy (like the state itself) blatantly tramples on both protocol and treaties. They break any agreements when they start to lose. It's all according to Hitler: "Any agreement for me is worth no more than a piece of paper on which it is written."
              In Russia, about the behavior of people like the United States and their diplomats say: "My fish, in whatever color I want, I will paint it this way."
              And Gromyko was not particularly affectionate either. Opponents of the USSR called him "Mr. NO" for successfully defending the interests of the USSR. Americans yearn for EA Shevardnadze and Kozyrev, who gave up the interests of the USSR / Russia right and left. But those days are over.
              1. pytar
                pytar 20 May 2021 17: 39
                -1
                "An ambassador must evoke sympathy, this is one of the ego's professional tasks! He is the face of his country in foreign countries!"
                -----------------------------------------------
                The ambassadors, like the state of Russia, owe ANYONE and NOTHING. He should ONLY Russia, whose interests they are OBLIGED to protect.

                A sympathetic ambassador is more successful in defending the interests of his country! yes
                1. boris epstein
                  boris epstein 21 May 2021 15: 48
                  0
                  Yeah, Nuland aroused sympathy with gratuitous cookies, ditching Ukraine without a single shot from the United States. And the Ukrainians have forgotten that free cheese is only in a mousetrap and only the second mouse gets it.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 21 May 2021 17: 31
                    0
                    Yeah, Nuland aroused sympathy ...

                    It turns out that it works! Yes? bully
                    1. boris epstein
                      boris epstein 21 May 2021 17: 40
                      0
                      Yes, it works, but only AGAINST the client. This is called COOLING.
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 21 May 2021 22: 50
                        0
                        Yes, it works, but only AGAINST the client. This is called COOLING.

                        Ie, in your opinion, if the ambassador is sociable, friendly, he is fooling? And if he sits so wrinkled, with swollen cheeks, as if from a pebble in his shoes, is he honest? Ha, ha, ha! lol You know, I will not believe any of them, even a duck, but with the first one I will at least be pleased to communicate! yes
                      2. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 22 May 2021 16: 19
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                        In the case of Nuland and Gero, Mustafa is definitely YES. Because this is a kind of interference in the internal affairs of the host country. Smiles with a brick in their bosom.
                        And if a diplomat behaves seriously at a serious event, it inspires confidence and respect in me.
                        But I am disgusted with communicating with the American Chi-i-i-z (artificial smile, not caused by the situation). Laughter for no reason is a sign ... (I’m not saying, because there are already two warnings for the truth, and one of them is because of you).
                      3. pytar
                        pytar 22 May 2021 16: 45
                        0
                        I am not going to discuss the affairs of diplomats in other countries, but in my own country I have no complaints about Gero Mustafa. As for the former Russian ambassador to Sofia, I cannot understand how he didn’t learn during his 5 years of stay, for example, when we have national holidays! Such cases, by the way, were not rare from him! fool

                        To the new - E. Mitrofanova also questions arose! Already! Moreover, on a pure civilian level, no comments on high politics!
                      4. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 22 May 2021 17: 03
                        0
                        I shrug my shoulders in bewilderment with you. In the same way, the ambassadors of the West did not and do not recognize many Soviet and now Russian holidays. They are citizens of their own countries and they have their own holidays. And neither the USSR nor the Russian Federation has any claims in this regard. But the claims against the former CMEA and Warsaw Pact countries for the demolition and insult of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators-in bulk - in Austria and Germany, which were neither in the CMEA nor in the Warsaw Pact, this is not the case.
                      5. pytar
                        pytar 22 May 2021 19: 04
                        0
                        I shrug my shoulders in bewilderment with you. In the same way, the ambassadors of the West did not and do not recognize many Soviet and now Russian holidays. They are citizens of their own countries and they have their own holidays.

                        And reading what you write, my amazement grows! belay When you have a DR, that is, a holiday on which no one has a dispute, is it congratulating you or do you congratulate others on your own birthday ?! You are going overboard to justify the absence of elementary professionalism of the questioned ambassador! fool
                        But the claims to the countries of the former CMEA and the Warsaw Pact for the demolition and insult of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators-in bulk

                        Then I agree with you! yes For me, it doesn't matter who how will interpret one or another historical event. Monuments for that and monuments for people to remember!
                      6. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 23 May 2021 14: 19
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                        And I was hoping to have a rest at least on Sunday from you. Did not work out.
                        "When you have a DR, that is, a holiday on which no one has a dispute, is it congratulating you or do you congratulate others on your own birthday ?!"
                        Not everyone congratulates me, but only those who are FRIENDS and whom I have invited. The rest are not interested in my birthday, as well as their birthday me. You are not my friend.
                        About the professionalism of the ambassadors. Let it be known to you that MGIMO has a language orientation. There are groups of related languages. Future ambassadors study in SEVERAL languages. I will reveal a secret for you. Afterwards it is FAVORABLE to hide the knowledge of the counterparty's language. Translators ALWAYS work during negotiations. The ambassador, after listening to the comment in the language of the counterparty, understood it, but he has time to think over the answer, while the translator expresses it in the native language of the ambassador. This is REAL professionalism. And this is what serious ambassadors of the WHOLE world do. Moreover, according to the diplomatic protocol, the ambassador MUST speak the language of the country he represents.
                        And if Gero Mustafa is a professional, then in another matter. But not in international relations. US Ambassadors to Ukraine Tefft had a problem only before his recall and replacement, when he presented diplomas to graduates of the Ukrainian Intelligence Academy in Kiev. It turned out that he knew both Russian and Ukrainian. But the invitation of the ambassador of a foreign country to the presentation of diplomas to future intelligence officers is a crime of the leadership of the academy: the face of a future intelligence officer is one of the state secrets.
                        How many truths before communicating with me were secrets for you with seven seals! You are already obligated to pay for me to teach you these truths.
                        And read the article: “Arms dealer Gebrev: old ammunition was stored in Vrbetica.” In one paragraph, he writes that the stored ammunition was obsolete, and in another, that it was intended for sale to Ukraine. In one paragraph, he writes that there were TWO explosions, in another, that there were FOUR of them.
                        "The suede jacket ... Three. The dog with the police promised to come." (Dentist Shpak.)
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 19 May 2021 11: 07
    0
    Are Russian ambassadors quarrelsome? Come on ... Nice people.
    I personally had the experience of communicating with some on business trips, they are greeted perfectly! And silence, coupled with rudeness, is not noticed, in an informal circle they are as pleasant as at receptions.

    I don’t know, I don’t know) I had experience of communicating with one fairly well-known diplomat of the Russian Federation) the meeting involved communication for no more than 15 minutes) all documents were agreed and read by the relevant services of the embassy and instead of fluently reading the text and signing) this comrade gave an exam on law for a whole hour, boasting about my meager knowledge of the laws) I wanted to send him, but I felt sorry for the people, the embassy staff who were preparing these documents, and only at the exit from the embassy the thought arose ... so which of us is with him, the ambassador? ))
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 19 May 2021 10: 19
    -5
    It's funny. In any country, the Chinese "Chinatowns" are the real branches of the Chinese intelligence and special services. In addition, every Chinese man, when he reaches age, signs a paper according to which the interests of his country will prevail for him in any place of his location. Moreover, when a Chinese person receives permission to leave the country, he signs a paper stating that not only will he pursue the interests of his country, but he will also collect information of interest to it and transfer it to the relevant services and follow the orders of the representatives of these services, if they contact them. to him. So that no one can surpass China ... Except Massada ...
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 19 May 2021 09: 30
    +5
    Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying
    1. Maz
      Maz 19 May 2021 09: 34
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying

      Yes, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one, our Khloptsy did not think of creating Hamas in their historical homeland, then shob them into their native Israeli Fatherland with rockets day and night until howling and screeching on staircases and beaches tongue laughing But Shabak, AMAN and Mossad realized it brilliantly. Now they shoot at their own creatures, or creations belay
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying
      the most expensive thing in the world is stupidity, and you have done it one hundred percent. And now you are at war with her. With your own moron. Yes, Bashirov and Petrov did not think of that. But China is our ally. And you will have to take this into account and be afraid, because you yourself brought the Chinese to the construction of the tram and tunnels and something else. So sho this is the second nonsense given the article.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 09: 39
        -6
        Quote: Maz
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying

        Yes, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one, The lads did not think of creating Hamas in their historical homeland, then shob them their native Israeli Fatherland with rockets day and night until howling and screeching on staircases and beaches tongue laughing
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying

        Oh, MAZ, how is it in Bat Yam with "rockets day and night until howling and screeching on staircases and beaches"? Are Ridnu's bags ready to drop?
        1. Maz
          Maz 19 May 2021 09: 55
          -1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Quote: Maz
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying

          Yes, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one, The lads did not think of creating Hamas in their historical homeland, then shob them their native Israeli Fatherland with rockets day and night until howling and screeching on staircases and beaches tongue laughing
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ... crying

          Oh, MAZ, how is it in Bat Yam with "rockets day and night until howling and screeching on staircases and beaches"? Are Ridnu's bags ready to drop?

          I’m stupid to you, I explained a hundred times that Russian cassams and other products of the military-industrial complex of Palestine and Iran do not shoot ... Or have you forgotten, sho you are relatives? They instantly recognize you by the smell of fear and only then explode. laughing tongue Pay attention to the city of Holon there, a decent mark in the center on the wall remained, even the curb was chipped off by an explosion in three places, and the bus also hit the holon, and the private car was also there ... Ayyayyay what are the consequences of only one stupidity of the Israeli special services ... how much do we not yet know about them? OH-Vav-Oh ... Oh ... Tsakhal is also stupid at all ...
          Not to annoy the Arabs: IDF soldiers were forbidden to wear uniforms outside the units
          It's just a shame if the soldiers defending their country are afraid to walk in uniform ... ... here are the consequences ... to be sure ... brilliant. https://www.vesty.co.il/main/article/ryKz4mMKO?fbclid=IwAR2VjKlm9lNNIRaSWvGxS2jvf7CGJGLzjcubBZDrIgPoWHO-JLNblQgViuY
          reader comment: Maybe even issue a decree not to walk in the land of Israel, so as not to irritate the Arabs. Just a nightmare.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 19 May 2021 10: 02
            -4
            Quote: Maz
            I’m stupid to you, I explained a hundred times, sho in Russian cassams and other products of the military-industrial complex of Palestine and Iran do not shoot, ... They fly up, they see, they made a mistake, wildly apologize for the bother and fly to look for brothers, cousins ​​of their creators, that is, Jews. Or have you forgotten sho you are relatives? They instantly recognize you and only then explode.

            Well, if you still have courage, well done.
            And here, at VO, it seems like yesterday or the day before yesterday, everyone was worried that such "Russians" like you would rush in a crowd to ask for a return, and in Birobidzhan you might not have enough space. lol
            1. Maz
              Maz 19 May 2021 10: 20
              -1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Quote: Maz
              I’m stupid to you, I explained a hundred times, sho in Russian cassams and other products of the military-industrial complex of Palestine and Iran do not shoot, ... They fly up, they see, they made a mistake, wildly apologize for the bother and fly to look for brothers, cousins ​​of their creators, that is, Jews. Or have you forgotten sho you are relatives? They instantly recognize you and only then explode.

              Well, if you still have courage, well done.
              And here, at VO, it seems like yesterday or the day before yesterday, everyone was worried that such "Russians" like you would rush in a crowd to ask for a return, and in Birobidzhan you might not have enough space. lol

              We are more needed here, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one. Yes, and you need to look after your daughter. And my grandfather died near Konigsberg with a weapon in his hands, and not in a concentration camp where many of your fellow tribesmen came themselves with clothes and valuables. So I don’t want my grandchildren to have a grandfather, like mine, and I’ll bring them up correctly - as normal people ...
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 19 May 2021 10: 47
                -1
                Quote: Maz
                We are more needed here, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one. Yes, and you need to look after your daughter. And my grandfather died near Konigsberg with a weapon in his hands, and not in a concentration camp where many of your fellow tribesmen came themselves with clothes and valuables. So I don’t want my grandchildren to have a grandfather, like mine, and I’ll bring them up correctly - as normal people ...

                Why do you raise and educate "normal people" in Israel, and not in your homeland?
                What, lousy there?
                Is Israel better for both daughter and grandchildren?
                Yes, and the Zionists can get hold of some foolish money. After all, they are stupid, they pay the allowance without a murmur, and you can pour a little devil on them, and mock, and mock from the heart.
                lol
              2. Pushkar
                Pushkar 19 May 2021 15: 04
                +1
                Quote: Maz
                And my grandfather died near Konigsberg with a weapon in his hands, and not in a concentration camp where many of your fellow tribesmen came themselves with clothes and valuables.

                You pig, Maz. My grandfather, Kaufman Yuri Efimovich, fought four wars, the Great Patriotic War from 23.06.1941/12.05.1945/8 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Those relatives (XNUMX people) who did not manage to evacuate really came to the slaughter. To Babi Yar. Women and children. With a newborn baby in her arms. Only all of our family who survived served and fought. My father, my mother and me. You will not educate anyone correctly, "a pig under an oak tree."
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 19 May 2021 09: 56
        +3
        our lads did not think of it
        Ukrainians or what? it happens ...
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 19 May 2021 09: 35
      +2
      If you squint your eyes, it looks like.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 May 2021 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ...

      Well, right according to Vysotsky "You, Zin, run into rudeness, you, Zin, will offend you."
    4. smart ass
      smart ass 19 May 2021 09: 37
      0
      Not an article, but the delirium of a madman
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 19 May 2021 09: 58
        +5
        In the morning, to cheer up very much in suit
        Quote: Clever man
        Not an article, but the delirium of a madman
        why crazy - Zintis Znotiš - political journalist of the Dialog.UA website - from a friend, God forbid, of course: a diagnosis.
        For more fun
        Many Latvians have visited China, but none of them was caught ...
        ... Once, the airline of “one small but proud country” aimed to plot a route to China and asked for permission ... the Chinese, chewing their lip and studying the map, answered - villages with a population of less than two million people, we do not indicate on some maps.
    5. Dym71
      Dym71 19 May 2021 09: 43
      +4
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Somehow it even became insulting for Petrov and Bashirov ...

      So they were not found in your Palestinians yet (I don’t believe they were there already, not even in life) the Evon burst into flames!
      And all of them:
      cruel and dishonest methods in order to increase their influence or to make a decision that suits only Moscow

      Aha yes
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 09: 50
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        Quote: Dym71
        So they were not found in your Palestinians yet (I don’t believe they were there already, not even in life) the Evon burst into flames!

        Found, found. How could one do without Israel?
        According to the research of the Western press, the mysterious Russian agents Petrov and Boshirov, suspected of poisoning the Skripals in the city of Salisbury, confusing traces, visited Israel wassat .
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          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 19 May 2021 10: 36
            +1
            Quote: Maz
            https://www.vesty.co.il/main/article/rkYDK11fYu?fbclid=IwAR0xoSWGBmgEANENeCBpxKcSEmm-dOIzTpZuzKtBXPSEj5TKczLZXXPJJz4

            I already talked about this on VO, but for you, I will repeat it again.
            March last year.
            "Islamic Jihad" went to Moscow at the invitation of the Russian side. The delegation held "in-depth consultations with the former Russian ambassador to Israel, and now the deputy foreign minister, Mikhail Bogdanov, and the head of the delegation also met with the minister himself."
            Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov personally met with Ziyad Nahalla, secretary general of the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization operating in the Gaza Strip.



            The leaders of Hamas and other terrorist organizations dreaming of the destruction of Israel are not only welcomed in Moscow - they are received with honors.
            For example, on January 16, 2017, at the Russian Foreign Ministry in Moscow, a meeting of “representatives of various Palestinian movements and parties” with Sergei Lavrov took place.


            The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Fatah), the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, (ID), the Popular Liberation Front Palestine "(PFLP)," Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine "(DFLP)," Palestinian National Initiative "and" Communist Party of Palestine "and other groups. Do not be lazy, type in any decent search engine the phrase "List of terrorist attacks by Hamas", "List of terrorist attacks by Fatah", "List of terrorist attacks by the PFLP" and so on.

            On the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry published the text of the opening words of Lavrov:
            “Dear guests, dear friends, we are glad to welcome at the meeting in Moscow representatives of the majority, if not all, of the detachments of our Palestinian colleagues. You know very well from regular communication with Russian friends that our country is a principled and consistent supporter of restoring Palestinian unity, overcoming the split that occurred ten years ago. I think you all agree that during this period it was possible to make sure that the lack of unity adversely affects the solutions to the Palestinian problem ... We welcome the meeting of the preparatory committee of the Palestinian National Council held several days ago in Beirut, during which important the communiqué, which confirmed the course of consolidating your ranks and forming by joint efforts a national unity government, whose competence would extend to all Palestinian territories. We very much hope that today's meeting, your contacts with each other in Moscow will help to make sure that this decision does not become another declaration, but is embodied in practical matters. ”


            What is the "practical case" of Palestinian terrorists, the citizens of Israel, alas, have repeatedly experienced.

            Apparently, Russia is interested in the fact that scattered groups of Palestinian Arabs act against Israel as a united front under the "roof" of the PLO. But at the moment this is impossible, since the enmity between Hamas and Fatah has been complicated by the growing competition with Hamas from the Islamic Jihad, from which the Iranian ayatollahs are actually making a second Hamas, arming the organization and giving it credibility in the eyes of the people of Gaza.

            And after that Russia offers itself to Israel as a mediator in the settlement of the conflict with the Palestinian Arabs? Don't tell my sneakers, Maz! laughing
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 19 May 2021 11: 10
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              ... Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
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              ... Apparently, Russia is interested in the fact that scattered groups of Palestinian Arabs act against Israel as a united front under the "roof" of the PLO
              This is your personal speculation, which, as always !, is not devoid of Russophobia. fool
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 19 May 2021 11: 24
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                Quote: aszzz888
                These are your personal speculations that

                I am an old school old man and it is too late for me to change my orientation.
                I hate cheeky greasy men leaning against me and grabbing my floors with some ridiculous harassment in a public place.
                Moreover, I have already explained to you more than once that your behavior is disgusting and more than once I drove you away from me.
            2. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 19 May 2021 11: 26
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              Quote: A. Privalov
              What are the "practical affairs" of Palestinian terrorists, the citizens of Israel, alas, have more than once experienced

              Who is your biggest terrorist, Arabs or Israelis, is a moot point (although Jews kill Arabs many times more than Arabs Jews), but after all, the leaders of Israel are also hosted by the Russian leadership and are negotiating negotiations about something ...
            3. Maz
              Maz 19 May 2021 12: 24
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              Quote: A. Privalov
              Quote: Maz
              https://www.vesty.co.il/main/article/rkYDK11fYu?fbclid=IwAR0xoSWGBmgEANENeCBpxKcSEmm-dOIzTpZuzKtBXPSEj5TKczLZXXPJJz4

              And after that Russia offers itself to Israel as a mediator in the settlement of the conflict with the Palestinian Arabs? Don't tell my sneakers, Maz! laughing

              Aha laugh, Perevalych from a sore head to a healthy one, ... Judging by the panic in social networks, the Arabs still give a light inside the country. Some remembered the word immigration, and they had already found the direction - CANADA, ... And the Maghavniks surrounded Jaffa together with the police for the third week, I don’t remember this in twenty years ... Maghavnik - count the border guard, with m-16 and other nonsense to quench thirsty and the police are not ready to hand out pies, judging by the equipment ... anecdote suggests itself ...
              - Let's go, Moishe, we'll bomb the neighbors
              - And if they bomb us in response?
              - And what for us?

              but in cities with a mixed population, especially in the center of the country, there is discrimination against many Arab residents.

              The protest against the invasion of right-wing Jews in Jaffa, Ramla and Lod should not come as a surprise. The Arabs in these cities are in a difficult socio-economic situation and see the events in Sheikh Jarah as an example for their own struggle. https://detaly.co.il/6-faktorov-arabskoj-vesny-v-izraile/?fbclid=IwAR0cJDiNS9deyM4Dv5OnAii7wOcOU3hKBtLpXmcRhITGpb-t-e5swD3yVutewsNewsIews fight with this Perevalich ... it is your Israeli media that write and rewrite each other
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 19 May 2021 11: 20
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          Quote: A. Privalov
          According to research by the Western press, the mysterious Russian agents Petrov and Boshirov, suspected of poisoning the Skripals in the city of Salisbury, have also visited Israel.

          Damn, is there at least one country left where these guys have not yet appeared?
          Have any of the VO regulars been to Papua New Guinea not too long ago? What do the aborigines think about Petrov and Boshirov?
  • prior
    prior 19 May 2021 09: 31
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    Well, it is clear that the Chinese intelligence is the best.
    China is communist ... lol
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r 19 May 2021 09: 31
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    Why is this nonsense on VO? Is that a respected expert?
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    2. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 19 May 2021 09: 45
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      Why is this nonsense on VO? Is that a respected expert?

      Yes, VO is no longer a cake ...
    3. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 19 May 2021 10: 14
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      Quote: neri73-r
      Is that a respected expert?

      This scum is an excellent example of who? How? Works against RF. It must be understood that the fosterlings of the Leningrad State University shit at all possible sites. It is necessary to draw the attention of the law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation to such people: slander, offend the Country, the president - bring to justice, at least call the ambassador and "bend" so that it flows out of your ears ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 19 May 2021 09: 32
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    Which would you prefer: the friendly, smiling and sociable Chinese ambassador or the grumpy and silent Russian?

    On the other hand, American and Latvian diplomats are not far from them, they are distinguished by their arrogance, stupidity and incompetence.
  • serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 19 May 2021 09: 33
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    at least something to hook Russia! come up with any nonsense! especially tribalty - espionage and diplomacy genius!
  • nnm
    nnm 19 May 2021 09: 35
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    Well, in fact, perhaps it is. After all, the main assistant in obtaining intelligence information is still money: for bribery, financing of analytics, research, modeling, promotion of their people and regimes, satellites, equipment, etc. It is very difficult to compete with China on this issue.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 19 May 2021 10: 28
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      Well, in fact, perhaps it is. After all, the main assistant in obtaining intelligence information is still money: for bribery, financing of analytics, research, modeling, promotion of their people and regimes, satellites, equipment, etc. It is very difficult to compete with China on this issue.

      It's still not really intelligence in its purest form.
      While in the first place, probably MI6.
  • Evil troll
    Evil troll 19 May 2021 09: 38
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    Just think, the president of America was chosen. Bad intelligence, yes.
  • Mouse
    Mouse 19 May 2021 09: 41
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    well yes ... well yes ... the Chinese came up with the Year of the Dragon, the Style of the Dragon ...
    but the Russians in the morning came up with the Breath of the Dragon on the first of January ... wassat
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 19 May 2021 09: 42
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    We are waiting for the assessment of Estonian experts
  • Tagan
    Tagan 19 May 2021 09: 45
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    Degradation has become the norm and even one of the mandatory elements (like the presence of rear-wheel drive) of European values.
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 19 May 2021 09: 45
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    Well, let's start with the fact that Russian diplomats are being expelled en masse not because of their punctures, but also because of the herd solidarity of Western countries. The showy "we are together" quickly ends when it comes to the personal interests of these countries, the example of vaccines from Covid is very telling.
  • BABAY22
    BABAY22 19 May 2021 09: 50
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    Yes, they say Petrov and Boshirov in connection with the pandemic in general switched to domestic tourism.
    Last year we had a rest in Omsk ... request
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 19 May 2021 11: 29
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      Quote: BABAY22
      Yes, they say Petrov and Boshirov in connection with the pandemic in general switched to domestic tourism.
      Last year we had a rest in Omsk ... request

      How did you know this? Did something explode in there?
    2. Kisa
      Kisa 19 May 2021 17: 34
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      I will sum up - an explosive case perfectly well. poisoning - on the C grade. well, acting skills - none. why the Armenian woman was given a complete failure. isn't it time to call them to Malakhov ... well, and to the deputies soon
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 May 2021 09: 52
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    Who, who, if not a Latvian observer, should talk about intelligence, and even more so Russian. Who but the Baltic states, whom GRUSHNIK even looks at from the toilet bowl, can "professionally" compare the intelligence services of Russia and China. And the cherry on the cake
    Many Latvians have visited China, but none of them has been caught. They're probably just good at what they do, but who are they?
    Russian agents are caught in batches, but Chinese agents cannot be caught. Maybe because in the Baltics there is Russophobia, not China-phobia?
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  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 19 May 2021 09: 54
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    English scientists, Latvian observers ... And from the first and from the second we hear a lot of all sorts of nonsense ...
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 19 May 2021 09: 57
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    Another expert was found, measuring the success of the intelligence work with smiles and covered glades with booze and food!
    Well - well, deep analytics. fool
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 19 May 2021 10: 12
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    Quote: NIKNN
    Which would you prefer: the friendly, smiling and sociable Chinese ambassador or the grumpy and silent Russian?
    Most likely a deceitful and arrogant American ...

    Ltd! This is you to the point! bully good wink
  • maiman61
    maiman61 19 May 2021 10: 24
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    What the hell is this, Latvia? How far is it from the toilet?
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 19 May 2021 11: 34
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      Quote: maiman61
      How far is she from the toilet?

      She's right there ...
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 19 May 2021 11: 04
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    "China is much smarter": it drives its future "victims" into "investment traps."

    That's for sure. Many countries, including Kazakhstan, are in Chinese bondage.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 19 May 2021 11: 49
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    But the whole world trumpets about our intelligence! ^ __ ^
    Z. I think Latvia is simply not very necessary for China, although it is difficult for Latvia to get it into the head
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 19 May 2021 15: 13
    +1
    Which mousetrap to choose, with which delicious cheese is a private affair of every mouse, even Latvian. Good luck to her.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 19 May 2021 15: 41
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    If we have a clear offensive foreign policy, we will have brilliant ambassadors.
    By themselves, without politics, they cannot "shine".
    But to judge about intelligence, especially not for the past (and then ...), but the present ... But if I were a Latvian of advanced years, I would not undertake! Better about aliens, or about some kind of zombie apocalypse - more and more "knowledge".
  • isv000
    isv000 19 May 2021 21: 20
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    Labuses in their repertoire. From under the plinth, but something is squeaking ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 May 2021 13: 45
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    Are Russian ambassadors quarrelsome? Come on ... Nice people.

    Unfortunately, the Latvian observer is right about that. I can judge by the Russian ambassadors in Bulgaria. The former Anatoly Makarov really looked cute.

    But I was not remembered in any way by deeds, except for a somewhat stupid scandal. He served his entire mandate in the warm chair of the ambassador, no activity. On the national holiday "September 6, Unification Day", the American ambassad published an official greeting to the Bulgarian people. To the site of the Russian. the embassies were silent, they wrote about some completely extraneous events. Having been in Bulgaria for many years, Makarov never taught a word of Bulgarian! Of course it is not necessary, but the American ambassador Gero Mustafa in a very short time began to recite Bulgarian poems! With an accent, and all the same, this is a tin of respect for the country that accepted you! I don’t think that it’s easier to learn Bulgarian as an American than, for example, a Russian person who also speaks Slavic!
    As for the new Ross. Ambassador Eleanor Mitrofanov, let's see ...

    I will not comment yet on how she looks and what her behavior is, at least she promised to learn Bulgarian. hi

    Well, meet with "bread and salt" and in the national style your long history laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 May 2021 13: 48
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    Quote: pytar
    Based on the population dynamics, the Bulgarian language will go out of use in the not too distant future. Sad as it is.

    Judging by the population dynamics, such a threat exists for the Russian language as well. Sadly.

    Judging by you, all the "Bulgarians" in the 14th century ended laughing